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Samsung unveils Galaxy S4 Zoom camera/phone hybrid

By dpreview staff on Jun 12, 2013 at 13:04 GMT

Samsung has officially unveiled the Galazy S4 Zoom - the nearest thing yet to a true camera / phone hybrid.  The 'camera side' features a 24-240mm equivalent F3.1-6.3 lens with a zoom ring around the barrel, in front of a 16MP 1/2.3" CMOS sensor. It includes optical image stabilisation, a built-in xenon flash, ISO 100-3200, 4 fps continuous shooting, and 1080p30 HD video; images are stored to internal memory or microSD. On the 'phone side' you get a 4.3" Super AMOLED display, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, and all the other features you'd expect of a modern smartphone. The S4 zoom will go on sale this summer.

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Press Release:

SAMSUNG INTRODUCES THE GALAXY S4 ZOOM – THE FIRST SMARTPHONE TO OFFER 10X OPTICAL ZOOM

The ultimate smartphone and camera experience in one

12 June 2013, London, UK – Samsung Electronics today announced the launch of the Samsung GalaxyS4 Zoom, a new device that combines the stylish heritage of the Galaxy S4 smartphone with advanced photographic capabilities.

Part of the GalaxyS4 family, the Galaxy S4 Zoom is the result of Samsung’s mission to create a single device that can fulfill the role of both an industry-leading smartphone, and a high-end compact camera. Combining 10x Optical Zoom, a 16 Mega Pixel CMOS Sensor, OIS and Xenon Flash with the very latest Samsung Galaxy S4 technology, the GalaxyS4 Zoom sets new standards for mobile photography.

Simon Stanford, Vice President of IT & Mobile Division, Samsung Electronics UK & Ireland said: 'Combining our industry leading expertise in digital imaging and smartphones, the Galaxy S4 Zoom is a converged device that delivers on all fronts and is a product we are excited to be bringing to the market.'

Revolutionary new interface

You can do everything and miss nothing thanks to the revolutionary new Zoom Ring,a simple and intuitive way to access the Galaxy S4 Zoom’s key features. When you are in the middle of a phone call and you see something you absolutely have to share, a quick twist of the Zoom Ring will activate the In-Call Photo Sharefeature, letting you capture and send an image directly via MMS to whoever you are talking to.

For easy camera navigation, the Zoom Ring can be used to activate the Quick Launch and Shortcut features, giving you instant access to multiple camera modes including Auto, Gallery and Smart Mode with just a simple twist.

Revolutionising conventional camera zoom controls, the Optical zoom control replaces traditional dials and buttons with smooth, easy-to-operate digital controls making it even easier to take professional and accurate shots.

Capture the best images

The GalaxyS4 Zoom’s best-in-class 10x Optical Zoom and 16MP BSI CMOS Sensor lets you capture beautiful images from far away or up close and personal, in all light conditions, without having to carry heavy camera gear. The built-in Optical Image Stabiliser (OIS) helps keep the camera perfectly still even when you are not, reducing blur and stabilising the image when zooming in for high-quality photos and videos.

Photo Suggest instantly connects you to huge libraries of images taken by fellow photographers, to help you find and compose your best shots, anywhere in the world. Photo Suggest can even direct you to the ideal nearby location which will give you the vantage point you need for that perfect photo.

The GalaxyS4 Zoom also features Samsung’s popular Smart Mode. Simply choose from a series of pre-set modes and the camera will automatically adjust to ensure you capture the best photo possible. Use Drama Shot to merge continuous shots of moving objects into a single composed image, or Action Freeze to instantly capture high-speed action. If you are not sure which Smart Mode to select, the Smart Mode Suggestfeature can assess the scene for you and provide a list of the best options based on light levels, focal length, or face detection, ensuring you always get the shot you want.

Unlimited entertainment in the palm of your hand

The GalaxyS4 Zoom's heritage is evident throughout, from its sleek and stylish design to the powerful, yet intuitive user interface. Running on Android Jelly Bean 4.2, the GalaxyS4 zoom boasts many of the same features as the recently launched Galaxy S4, including Touchwiz, which lets you fully customise various aspects of your device including the lock screen and notification bar, for a truly personal mobile experience.

Perfect for keen travellers, Story Albumlets you arrange all of your favourite images and videos into one timeline to share with friends and loved ones. You can also edit images and even order prints directly from the device through a partnership with blurb*. If you would rather transfer your images to your laptop or tablet for safe keeping, Samsung Link lets you do so quickly and easily with just the touch of a button. Alternatively, you can sync all of your data in your own personal cloud through HomeSync,providing the ultimate peace of mind and ensuring your images and videos are waiting for you whenever you need them.

The GalaxyS4 Zoom also features the new Samsung Hub, a one-stop destination for all of the latest music, videos, books and games. Search, download and enjoy all of your favourite entertainment at the touch of a button, directly from your device. Share a new track or game with your friends using Group Play and connect directly with their Samsung devices so you can all listen and play together, without the need for a Wi-Fi AP or cellular signal.

The Galaxy S4 Zoom will be available in the UK this summer, with UK shipping dates to be confirmed nearer the time.

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Comments

Total comments: 222
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rondhamalam
By rondhamalam (10 months ago)

And the sluggish slow pathetic Nokia's CeO deeply regreted... "why didn't I thought this before"

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3 upvotes
Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

... Nokia is coming out with the 808 zoom so i do not know what you are talking about. They are going to crush this in pure performance and image quality.

1 upvote
bzanchet
By bzanchet (10 months ago)

Cool!! Although I would prefer a 5x zoom for a slimmer body... the future is here! Bye bye small sensor compact câmeras, this market is ending.

8 upvotes
theranman
By theranman (10 months ago)

VERY tough call on that one. I tend to agree, but then Samsung probably felt they were knocking it out of the park by going 10x...and many would probably agree. Personally, I'd prefer the tiniest phone/camera possible.

1 upvote
Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Tobad seeing as how some compact cameras with a tiny sensor are delivering image quality that stands up to the e-pl 2, 2002-2004 dslrs and crush all phones.

0 upvotes
vodanh1982
By vodanh1982 (10 months ago)

I wish it were a Galaxy Note series not S series.

1 upvote
idbar
By idbar (10 months ago)

I always read the comments to see what ridiculous specs trolls come to ask for. I always leave *almost* satisfied, at least I haven't seen anyone asking for film support yet.

11 upvotes
Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Its to thin! Where do i put the film roll in? This is outrageous.

1 upvote
inlawbiker
By inlawbiker (10 months ago)

All they've done is create the single best camera-in-a-phone combination ever made. The trend has to begin somewhere, I'm glad it's finally moving forward.

8 upvotes
tbaker
By tbaker (10 months ago)

Except for maybe the Nokia 808, which has a sensor size almost 1in. Sure the software could be a little better, and I think optical zoom is only like 2x, with digital doing the rest, it is the sensor size and glass that is key here when it comes to quality.

3 upvotes
Catalin Stavaru
By Catalin Stavaru (10 months ago)

It's not the sensor size that matters, it's the pixel size. At 41MP, the PureView has the same or very similar pixel size with the Samsung. PureView has an advantage until about 2.5x zoom, Samsung takes the lead from there.

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Fyi: the 808 zoom is on its way and you are way over exegerating you fanboy.

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Spoonboy
By Spoonboy (10 months ago)

Anepo, will you put a sock in it?

The irony of you calling somebody a 'fanboy' is hilarious when all you keep spouting about is how Nokia's (unannounced) zoom phone will trounce this.

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ezradja
By ezradja (10 months ago)

Let me put this way:
Samsung S4 Zoom vs iPhone5: better phone, much much better camera, Samsung win

S4 Zoom vs Pureview808: better phone OS, Nokia win at image quality.

Samsung S4 Zoom vs Fujifilm X20: Fujifilm X20 win (and all of advanced pocketable/smallish camera in Samsung S4 Zoom price range)

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (10 months ago)

Android phones=not secure. (This is the fault of the cell service providers, not Google or Samsung.)

0 upvotes
CDBayy
By CDBayy (10 months ago)

If it was a FULL NX camera with state of the art phone I'd pay $1000 for it.

1 upvote
tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (10 months ago)

Perhaps they'll announce it on june 20th...

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W5JCK
By W5JCK (10 months ago)

A terribly small sensor, a lackluster lens, a cruddy OS, and no camera buttons other than the shutter. Not good, if you ask me. I can only imagine how uncomfortable and awkward it will be to hold and use it as a phone with that big tumor (errr, lens) stuck on the back. Even with the lens retracted it is going to stick out very far.

I rate it:

-- Ergonomically: an F for phone and camera
-- Phone: a C
-- Camera: a D since cheap compacts can out perform it

3 upvotes
ianp5a
By ianp5a (10 months ago)

Cruddy OS? You think Windows is less cruddy and want that on it? Or can you name another OS that is open to running on a variety of devices?

They didn't design this camera exactly to MY needs. So it must be rubbish!

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xMichaelx
By xMichaelx (10 months ago)

I question the wisdom and maturity of someone who "rates" the ergonomics of something they've never held and the quality of a phone they've never used.

4 upvotes
Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

I would agree that this comment is much too harsh without having handled it... But the lens protrusion will invariably be less comfortable than a flat phone, specially with that control ring raising the profile further... I'm guessing some sort of a protrusion was inevitable so they decided to make the best of it by adding another control point rather than more edge buttons on a device you'll handle in all sorts of different ways.

It'd probably be more concerned with the lack of ruggedness than overall handling... That ring is gonna take a banging as you lay it down on tables etc, and it's already thick enough to go slapping a big case on it. Also, phone these days can and will take a tumble treasonably well, once you throw some optics and additional mechanics into the matter the potential for failure increases sharply.

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

It is what it is. A reasonable camera needs a lens. There's no predicting the course of technology, but it's hard to imagine a good camera without a protruding lens. And 10X is what I always miss on my Galaxy Note - it seems completely inadequate without zoom. But that is my taste, and I know others do fine with much less zoom. As this market matures, there will no doubt be choices to suit everyone. I'm glad it's beginning.

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (10 months ago)

Handle this baby and you're close to the S4 (mini) zoom:

http://www.dpreview.com/products/samsung/compacts/samsung_wb30f

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Photato
By Photato (10 months ago)

Nice concept but boring camera.
I'd have preferred a 3X or 5X quality lens with larger aperture, say at least f/2.8.
Usually the megazooms are for the general public.
I'd think a person willing to carry the extra bulk, weight and cost of a camphone hybrid, have a higher standard and interest for photography than this product offers.
Maybe good for people that genuinely need that zoom range. I dont.

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (10 months ago)

It's a misconception that more zoom means less targeted at enthusiasts. For example, to get good background separation with any sensor smaller than an inch in anything but macro like closeups, you need lots of magnification. This is where these superzooms can help. Same goes for wildlife and sports photography in good light etc. or basically any type of spotting of subjects at medium to larger distances during everyday walkabouts/life.
Yes it usually means tradeoffs in lens speed and thus low light, but low light isn't the only factor of interest, see above.

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roblarosa
By roblarosa (10 months ago)

I'm sure the general public is exactly who Samsung is targeting with this phone. They didn't make this for photographers. (Except perhaps those working at the Chicago Sun-Times)

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Photato
By Photato (10 months ago)

I think you misunderstood my post. Usually zoom range comes at the expense of image quality and i am sure is the case with this camera. Granted there are useful practical applications to having such a zoom range. But I tend to favor IQ above zoom range.
I'm thinking in terms of Canon S110 5X lens 12MP sensor or Olympus XZ-10 5X lens 12MP sensor. Those are the kind of cameras I'd be interested in a Mobile device.

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Photato
By Photato (10 months ago)

@ roblarosa. Correct. I am speaking from my personal interest. photographers would want a higher quality camera, since this is not yet a replacement for high end compacts. The question remains if the general public would be interested enough on this product since many wont understand/perceive the difference or will be willing to carry the extra bulk.

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (10 months ago)

And again, IQ is more than noise in low light or for example edge sharpness or CA. You have a preference, others (such as myself and I don't see myself any less of a photographer because of that) might prefer getting shots that are practically impossible with short range lenses.

The quality of the lens remains to be seen, but my compact superzoom is sharp from edge to edge at the wider angles, distortion is corrected for and CA relatively low. The issues come into play at the longer end, but that's still better than not having that range.

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Photato
By Photato (10 months ago)

@TrojMac. it comes down to what trade offs you want to make and what are your specific needs. I happen to believe most pocketable cameras even the higher end ones have traded quality for size. Adding a longer zoom makes things worst.
But if you really use and need a longer zoom AND a super wide too, then this is your camera. Just hope your cell phone carrier has it and god knows under what terms is the contract.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (10 months ago)

TrojMac:

More zoom makes for less light gathering by the sensor, therefore the ISO needs to be increased to compensate. Many of the "suprerzoom" cameras aren't good at higher ISOs. This Samsung could probably have been better with fewer pixels.

Re getting the shot: Then you're not close enough.

1 upvote
wayoutwest
By wayoutwest (10 months ago)

I don't buy expensive phones and the camera probably wont be any better than a cheap compact, so this wont be on my shopping list.

6 upvotes
xMichaelx
By xMichaelx (10 months ago)

Thanks! We were wondering what kind of phone you use. That's really good information that adds to this article.

11 upvotes
Helena777
By Helena777 (10 months ago)

Compact cams doom are nearer! :) Cams below Olympus XZ, Panasonic LX-7, etc. are becoming increasingly nonsense weight in the bags.

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ianp5a
By ianp5a (10 months ago)

Or could it be "Cams below Olympus XZ gain phone functionality"?

With the difference that the phone manufacturers take the profit and not camera manufacturers.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Being a photographer first I rather like this product. Let it be known that I absolutely hate the abuse of cell phones in our society and myself have a super bare bones pay per minute 40.00 cell phone that I only use in case of emergencies.

That said, this is the first time I can truly say a product with a cell phone with a camera gave me pause to consider actually buying it. I think the design is rather nice actually and unique among the sheep.

Carl

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xMichaelx
By xMichaelx (10 months ago)

Agreed. Had I not JUST bought the Galaxy S4, this would be my next phone.

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Do not buy it! The nokia 808 zoom is in development wait for it and yes it will have the same megapixel count as the 808

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tommy leong
By tommy leong (10 months ago)

samsung wisely avoided showing
how it would look if the lens is retracted.

THAT would be the deterrent factor

3 upvotes
joe1512
By joe1512 (10 months ago)

Looks pretty nice. Keep in mind that this is the ONLY phone with a real optical zoom camera that I am aware of.

It should be compared to existing travel zooms. Saying stuff like "it should have 10x zoom with 1.4 aperature" is just retarded, as is "OMG I want full frame!!".

With a standard sized sensor fortravel zooms, its IQ should be comparable to cameras such as the SX260 and the like. Not amazing but better than the average cell phone due to autofocus and slightly bigger sensor (vs the 1/3.2ish used in many cell phone cameras), plus better lens.

They aren't gonna make a phone with a bigger sensor for quite a while. They can barely cram a 1 inch sensor into a compact such as teh RX100. They certainly can't make it smaller AND shove phone guts into that smaller space.

This should fill a niche quite nicely and let people get rid of these ridiculous zoom-lens attachments you are supposed to carry around with your phone.

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (10 months ago)

Very appropriate posting, congrats my friend!

I would like to see some dpreview users holding a Nikon D4 with phone capability on the ear lol.

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cruser2469
By cruser2469 (10 months ago)

Joe, relax. I give you a Bronze award for sense of humor.

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Altruisto
By Altruisto (10 months ago)

No, this honor goes to Nokia N93 in its days :)

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donaldxr
By donaldxr (10 months ago)

Just remember one thing: It's a phone. The camera is just an extra feature.

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dccdp
By dccdp (10 months ago)

Just remember one thing: It's a compact camera. The phone is just an extra feature.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Just remember, its a hybrid phone and camera.

There argument settled.

Carl

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Steve Balcombe
By Steve Balcombe (10 months ago)

It's actually a powerful computer with phone and camera peripherals built in.

4 upvotes
CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

Wait until we start getting unbelievable video that you can actually see because it becomes the model for the majority of phones, and then decide what it is... just like cells have changed the world, this will kick that change to the next level.

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rb59020
By rb59020 (10 months ago)

No thanks, Samsung blew it! Should have been at least APSC, full frame would have been better! The 10X zoom is ok, but should have been a constant f1.4. I hate it when the aperture changes when I zoom! And what's with the crappy 4fps? The D4 does 10fps! What was Samsung thinking?

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dccdp
By dccdp (10 months ago)

Sorry, but you're wrong. No optical viewfinder, no deal.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Samsung was thinking "lets be realisitic when designing a hybrid phone and camera together". What were you thinking?

C

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (10 months ago)

No hot shoe? OMG!!!!!! I think I'll faint!!

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brunobarolo
By brunobarolo (10 months ago)

And ISO 3200 only. The D4 can shoot at ISO 100,000! What is Samsung thinking :-)

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reginalddwight
By reginalddwight (10 months ago)

Your *sarcasm* seems to have been lost by some forum members.

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rb59020
By rb59020 (10 months ago)

Scary isn't it? There is a few posters north of here that have apparently never heard of it. Dr. House is my hero! ;-)

sar-casm n. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Fine, you were sarcastic. But I don't know you personally. To me, it takes time to know someone's sarcastic humor and honestly, I've seen so many ridiculous posts here at DPR that WEREN'T sarcastic, what you said could be completely believable.

But now that you cleared it up, your sarcasm was pretty good. But I could never do better than that.

:)

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (10 months ago)

whaaaat''?
I thought they were all serious!
That compact has a 1/2.33 sensor crammed with over 16 Mega-Infra-Pixels and a veeeery slow lens - even below other compacts of it's size and you think that it's sarcasm to complain about a photon hitting the neighbouring cell during the exposure.
Wait until this is compared in full 10xzoom and even slower...
no, No, NO
"Luke, I'm your father!" answer...

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Sirandar
By Sirandar (10 months ago)

Agreed about the lens being too slow but looks like a very interesting camera/phone:

1) It has a decent camera that's always with you because your cell is always with you

2) The Galaxy S3 and S4 have a great audio system and the ability to put in a 64GB microSD card == ~100GB == it is an IPOD killer in its own right but when you factor that its always with you because your cell is always with you, there really is no comparison. (You do have to buy good headphones as the Samsung ones aren't really good enough)

Taken together I would say this could be quite a product (if the camera lives up to the specs) == pretty much everyone else will be playing catch up.

I wonder how much carriers are going to charge for it? 10,000$ and your first born? They are going to gouge for sure.

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danroso
By danroso (10 months ago)

The sound of optical zoom during video is horrible! Hear it on gsmarena.com 208 g??? Sony WX300, 20x zoom is just 166 g. I would go with the Nokia 808 sensor or bigger for good image on low light and decent digital zoom on good light.

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (10 months ago)

Decent up to about a factor 2.2x, according to the GSMArena battle between the 808 and older Galaxy Camera. Which is the equivalent of roughly 60mm (35mm format) vs 240mm in the case of the S4 Zoom. Apples and oranges when it comes to "reach".

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

Does anyone actually zoom while shooting? Most scenes determine the zoom to start with, and it stays there. And, since most output will be 'documentary', it won't really matter even if it is used.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (9 months ago)

So a combination camera/phone is 40g heavier than the smallest travel zoom on the market (and lighter than plenty of others- canon 280sx is 233g) and you're whining about the weight?

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (10 months ago)

"Look at the size of that... thing."

"That's not a moon..."

"That's a space station"

(Compact P&S talking to an iPhone aboard the Millennium Flake)

.

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zaurus
By zaurus (10 months ago)

All compact cameras just got killed.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

By the Galaxy S4 Zoom? Are you joking?

1, I don't think Samsung has managed to provide significantly better IQ with this camera than the previous Galaxy Camera (review: http://connect.dpreview.com/post/8746850893/samsung-galaxy-camera-in-depth-review )

2, even the phone part is significantly underpowered: a dual-core CPU (and not an Octo one), 540 x 960 pixels screen (vs. a Full HD one) etc. In fact you get the worst of both worlds. A dumbed-down and poor camera, and a dumbed-down “smartphone”, together in a very ugly and heavy device.

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (10 months ago)

@Menneisyys

You don't need a quad core CPU, most performance improvement comes from the chipset (GPU and video decoder).

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Sirandar
By Sirandar (10 months ago)

I have an S3 and I believe it has a dual core and I have yet ti find anything that slows it down, so the number of cores isn't really of that much importance until software catches up.

I wonder why Samsung would put such a low rez screen in the Zoom assuming you are correct .... that would be sad ... we will see.

As for looks, I have an S3 and I think it looks just fine for a phone and this one looks not all that different. If you are so hooked on looks perhaps you should buy the new Hass and make your statement ;)

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (10 months ago)

Everything is relative. The resolution of the OLED panel is still higher than that from the LCD of the top of the line Canon 1D-X for example ( the camera LCD resolution is usually represented in amount of dots and every RGB pixel is built from multiple dots).

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sbc
By sbc (10 months ago)

This is based on the S4 mini that will be launched soon.

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Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

Maybe sub-$300 compacts... But they were dead in the water long before this anyway. I doubt this is gonna have any impact on the S110s, LF1s, and RX100s of the world, or even the travel zooms with double the zoom range (and better optics, burst modes, handling, etc.).

It looks like a nice compromise for those that want it, but it's a compromise nonetheless. Personally I'd rather have the two discrete devices with their own batteries each, leaving me free to upgrade either independently at any time. Did they mention anything about battery life?

If it isn't sporting a large capacity battery (4000 mAh, at the very least) or a higher than normal CIPA rating then it's not gonna satisfy heavy users at all.

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tbaker
By tbaker (10 months ago)

The only thing I can agree here on is the display. It should have been at least 720p. The cpu is acceptable enough for pretty much everything as it is a pretty recent dual core cpu.

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (10 months ago)

The first real cell phone camera. It'll be interesting to see if the processed images are decent. Samsung's processing, at least on my S3, is around 10 years out of date.

Still, I'd prefer a shorter, faster lens myself. But this is a pretty decent compromise.

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rillern
By rillern (10 months ago)

It's the same sensor as the WB800!

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Gordon W
By Gordon W (10 months ago)

The inevitable has happened. Glad to see it.

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Kenneth Lee
By Kenneth Lee (10 months ago)

I'm using a Nokia Pureview 808 with satifactory camera results but crippled OS. Am looking forward towards this model.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

This thing is for zoom lovers and definitely not for people looking for image quality.

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Hachu21
By Hachu21 (10 months ago)

The lens on this cameraphone is brighter than the Leica X-vario one.
#oh!wait...

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electrophoto
By electrophoto (10 months ago)

Well,
if you take the tiny 1/2.3" sensor into account, well...
(I personally entirely dislike what leica has done with the X-Vario... stupid move imho). but you really can't compare the output / optics of this one with even the mid-level m4/3rd cameras + kit lens.
different ball-park

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

this would have been good news to post on the dpcpnnect blog rather than camera news...

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (10 months ago)

We'll have more about it on Connect later. But it's a phone with a 'proper' camera, so we thought it would be of interest on DPReview too.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

I understand your point, as I don't read dpconnect anyways.

If I was into tiny sensors, I'd much rather have a camera with a phone in it as an afterthought, than the other way around. (I seem to be remembering to bring my camera and starting to forget my phone at home)

Definitely a good call on Samsung's part: with all the ridiculous lens attachment paraphenalia for iphones, this hits that market.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Samsung made this a 50/50 product, its not one with the other or one with the other, it's hybrid. This camera is just as good as many of the point and shoots most people buy out there, probably better for some, and the cell phone as well. Here they are combined so two different products don't have to be carried around (one of my biggest frustrations with cell phones, too much to carry around and remeber).

I like the idea a lot. Next thought is if the camera will make good enough pictures for my taste for every day general photography- I'm picky. Too much noise removal and I'm passing. But I'm actually interested in this product and I practically hate cell phones.

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Alphoid
By Alphoid (10 months ago)

I'll also wait-and-see on sensor size. If this is a cell phone sensor, it's pointless -- I'd rather get an f/2 prime, as on some cell phones. If it's a reasonable size sensor, I'm probably going to get one. The 10x zoom worries me -- it suggests small sensor and/or poor optics.

Key downside is screen resolution. For a camera phone, 720p would make sense, and 1080p would be even better. It's not quite a showstopper, but it is a significant annoyance.

Seems like a Canon/HTC partnership or similar might make sense.

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JurijTurnsek
By JurijTurnsek (10 months ago)

Seems like something just up my alley. A little bit thick for my taste; however, considering the zoom range this is a given (and something future generations will easily improve on for easier marketing).

The first reviews suggest the image quality is lacking for a dedicated photo-phone, which is saddening (a proper price could mitigate this).

And for those comparing it to the future Nokia EOS and it's loss-less digital zoom - it can only do 3x zoom, so a direct comparison isn't possible, really (different tools for different needs).

The ergonomics could seriously impact it's use as an everyday phone, but I'll judge that when I can try it out in person. Oddly enough, this is exactly the phone I was campaigning for when the Galaxy Camera was released (thank you, Samsung).

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Catalin Stavaru
By Catalin Stavaru (10 months ago)

This is the future. I suppose it has a smaller sensor, with that kind of zoom it is not possible for it to have a 1/2.3" sensor like current point-and-shoot cameras have (hopefully I'm wrong :) ). I would have preferred a 3x zoom and a standard point-and-shoot sensor.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

you need to read before posting

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dccdp
By dccdp (10 months ago)

It has a 16MP 1/2.3" CMOS sensor.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Really?

Post before you read?

Is that the new generation? Comment on something they haven't even read about yet?

I want to explode in disgust.

C

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Catalin Stavaru
By Catalin Stavaru (10 months ago)

Sorry guys but when I posted the comment the entire article had only the first paragraph. The press release was not included in the article at that time.

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