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Adobe releases Photoshop Lightroom 5

By dpreview staff on Jun 10, 2013 at 04:01 GMT
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Adobe has released Photoshop Lightroom 5, the latest version of its workflow and image editing software. Available as either an individual license or as part of a Creative Cloud subscription, Lightroom 5 adds a more advanced healing/cloning tool, automatic image leveling and perspective correction, a new selective editing tool and the ability to edit files that are offline. US pricing is $149 for new customers and $79 for the upgrade.

The shipping version of Lightroom 5 arrives eight weeks after its public beta was released and aside from a publish-to-Behance plugin, contains no additional enhancements beyond bug fixes. We've covered the features introduced in the Lightroom 5 public beta and you can read about them using the link below. As always, you can download the shipping version of Lightroom and use it in a fully functional demo mode for 30 days. Follow the second link below to go to the Lightroom section of Adobe's site.

Download Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5

Press Release:

Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5 Now Available

SAN JOSE, Calif. — June 10, 2013  Adobe today announced the availability of Adobe® Photoshop® Lightroom® 5 for Mac OS® and Windows®. The product is available as an individual license or as part of Adobe Creative Cloud™. Designed for both photography enthusiasts and professionals alike, Lightroom 5 adds critical photo editing capabilities and creates groundbreaking workflows. Lightroom 5 was initially released as a free, public beta in April 2013.

"Lightroom was originally conceived through the requests of Adobe customers, and this feedback continues to drive each new iteration," said Winston Hendrickson, vice president of products, Creative Media Solutions, Adobe. "As the digital photography landscape advances and evolves, Lightroom is the best solution for photographers and passionate hobbyists who want to get the most out of their digital images."

New Features in Lightroom 5

Lightroom 5 adds powerful new editing tools to help photographers create better images faster. The Advanced Healing Brush enables customers to fix irregularly shaped imperfections such as dust spots, splotches, and other distractions with the precision and flexibility of a fine brush. The Upright tool analyzes each image to automatically straighten objects such as buildings and level horizons. Radial Gradients offer customers the control to make photo subjects stand out by applying off-center and multiple vignettes in a single image.

Lightroom 5 also brings extended sharing and publishing capabilities. New video slideshows enable customers to combine still images, video clips and music in a creative HD slideshow that can be viewed on almost any device. Updates to the Book module bring the ability to create, personalize and print elegant photo books from a variety of tailored, easy-to-use templates, as well as create customer-specific templates.

Smart Previews, new in Lightroom 5, enable photographers to make edits to their images offline, without bringing their entire library of original files with them. Edits and metadata changes to Smart Preview files are automatically applied to the original images when they are reconnected.

Pricing and Availability

Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5 is available now for immediate download for Adobe Creative Cloud members. Standalone software is available at Adobe.com and participating retailers for US$149 or US$79 for upgrades. For more detailed information about product features, upgrade policies, pricing and language versions, please visit www.adobe.com/go/lightroom.

Customers can also connect with the Lightroom team directly on Facebook, via Twitter or on the Adobe Lightroom blog. For Lightroom how-to videos, visit http://www.youtube.com/lightroom. 

About Creative Cloud

Adobe Creative Cloud is a membership-based service that provides users with access to download and install Adobe creative desktop applications; game developer tools and integration with the Adobe Touch Apps. With Creative Cloud membership, users also have access to: a vibrant global creative community; publishing services to deliver apps and websites; cloud storage and the ability to sync to virtually any device; and new products and exclusive updates as they’re developed.

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Total comments: 281
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Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (10 months ago)

What is this company, do they manufacture men's socks or something?

3 upvotes
tornwald
By tornwald (10 months ago)

Adobe, who were they again?

1 upvote
DotCom Editor
By DotCom Editor (10 months ago)

Adobe: A brick or building material made from sun-dried earth, water, and straw.

9 upvotes
Glen Barrington
By Glen Barrington (10 months ago)

DotCom Editor, Your recipe for Adobe left out Bull dung, I've always heard that large amounts of bull dung, made Adobe stronger.

1 upvote
jquagga
By jquagga (10 months ago)

$80 bucks; no significant new features. Right, let me sign right up for that.

It doesn't even pass the laugh test.

10 upvotes
blurredvision
By blurredvision (10 months ago)

It offers significant new features if you're on an older version of LR. Not everybody is running LR4.4.

6 upvotes
brian1366
By brian1366 (10 months ago)

The spot correction and "upright" tools are worth the upgrade price alone for me. Those are the remaining functions I go to Photoshop most often for.

12 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (10 months ago)

yeah I agree with brian1366.

0 upvotes
davidgp
By davidgp (10 months ago)

I agree that the spot correction tool is a great addition. Also the more flexible vignette tool.

But I'm going to wait to upgrade... I just bought LR4.3 a few months back (currently running 4.4) and am saving my photography dollars for a new lens.

0 upvotes
Matt Random
By Matt Random (10 months ago)

I only use LR and a few plugins so these enhancements are quite useful to me.

The Upright tool has already saved me a lot of time. Single click gets it right more often than not. When it doesn't work I fall back to the ViewPoint plugin.

I've also used the improved clone/healing tool a lot. Much more flexibility than the old spot method.

The radial gradient provides a fast and efficient way to draw the attention in an otherwise flat photo. Much easier than brushing.

1 upvote
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (10 months ago)

Personally, I find dialing in perspective correction using LR4 works faster than using Viewpoint and "Upright", while automatic, rarely gets things exactly the way I want them. For removing spots (or anything else) I don't think anything can beat content-aware fill in Photoshop. An extra step but worth it, IMO.

1 upvote
Jeppe S
By Jeppe S (10 months ago)

Its quite interesting that Phase One has just launched a discount campaign for their Capture One software. With all this cloud debacle I've thought about starting to use their software and not upgrade to LR5:

http://www.anpdm.com/newsletter/968435/424559477740425C4571

1 upvote
reginalddwight
By reginalddwight (10 months ago)

Adobe, you are asking too much for too little. No "upgrade" for me.

9 upvotes
appelpix1
By appelpix1 (10 months ago)

Sorry Adobe, looks like you have no more credibility...

0 upvotes
Mike Sivcevic
By Mike Sivcevic (10 months ago)

Adobe is screwing Australian customers yet again. LR5 costs $149 on the US site and $186 on Australian site. Same product, same server, same credit card gateway, 25% difference.

They've constantly been screwing us up, most notably with the CS6 that is about twice the price here comparing to the US pricing. It is cheaper to board the plane, fly from Australia to USA, buy a boxed copy in store and fly back.

Greedy corporate morons!

23 upvotes
digitall
By digitall (10 months ago)

Well, I live in Western Australia and I am in complete agreement with you. However, the cost of living in and around Perth, W.A. is extortionate. I just returned from the pub where a pint costs A$10! Cost of living here is said to be higher than London or New York. So Adobe are just following suit. Sadly, most people have no idea that they're being ripped off.

8 upvotes
Eddirp
By Eddirp (10 months ago)

minimum pay in Australia is also twice the amount in the US.

10 upvotes
ReesArchibald
By ReesArchibald (10 months ago)

digital products should be the same price + currency conversion in my opinion. Anything else is simply gouging and pretty hard to defend. There are no additional costs for the company involved as far as I know.

3 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (10 months ago)

Is the price you of $186 you are quoting for Australia with or without VAT ?

I ask because here in Switzerland, it used to be an even worse rip off (about +20 to 30% more after VAT substraction). But for the first time the announced price is fairer than usual ( +7.5% after substraction of the VAT) and part of the difference may be due to the changing rate : the CHF is stronger again with respect to a few weeks ago !

0 upvotes
Michael Kilpatrick
By Michael Kilpatrick (10 months ago)

To Eddirp. Good of Adobe to make allowance for the minimum wage. Presumably they sell it for $1 a copy in India.

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10 upvotes
digitall
By digitall (10 months ago)

Actually, the Aussie price is equal to US$175 (AUD$186, 'GST not payable') thus the difference is +17.5% at the current exchange rate. Not quite as bad as the OP calculated but, nonetheless, unjustifiable.

0 upvotes
Damo83
By Damo83 (10 months ago)

Australians get ripped off because they are prepared to pay more (because wages and salaries are generally higher). It's all about demand, not the cost of shipping the product or exchange rates etc. The proof is when you purchase digital content online where there are no transportation fees yet the Australian price is much higher.

1 upvote
digitall
By digitall (10 months ago)

"Is the price you of $186 you are quoting for Australia with or without VAT ?"

GST (Goods and Services Tax (=VAT) is levied at !0% in Australia but not on foreign purchases under $1000, hence nothing on Lightroom. Price is in Australian dollars.

"Australians get ripped off because they are prepared to pay more (because wages and salaries are generally higher)."

Agreed, but many, such as myself, are not well off and, having spent much of my life in the UK, I am frugal. Many Australians have absolutely no idea of the value of anything. On Gumtree (classified ads) one regularly sees second hand cameras being offered for only a little less than the price of a brand new one from online sellers because they have paid an extortionate price from a local shop.

0 upvotes
JRdToit
By JRdToit (10 months ago)

Try buying these things on US prices as a South African then see what happens. PS. I hope Damo83 comes back to read Michael Kilpatricks post

0 upvotes
SeeRoy
By SeeRoy (10 months ago)

Is LR5 as deadly slow as LR4?
If it is, I'll be sticking with LR4.

0 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

Tried exporting 200 pictures with the beta (Imac 27" 2011).
It took me over 2 hours to complete.
So yeah its extremely slow.

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7 upvotes
richardplondon
By richardplondon (10 months ago)

There is a lot about this on the Adobe LR user forum. Some people have been experiencing good performance, other people bad performance, from similar levels of hardware - and AFAIK nobody has yet found a clear pattern to this. Some particularly intensive tools such as Clarity and NR have been particularly problematic, or else, not. So it is not guaranteed that you will get a good, or a bad, experience.

It is worth noting that different versions of LR4 have previously shown quite different performance, generally improving. It has taken time to optimise and tweak the new process version, across all the myriad hardware variations out there. But since LR5 uses the same PV as LR4 does, it should benefit from all that development - there's not the same "clean break" that was found when moving from LR3 to LR4.

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SeeRoy
By SeeRoy (10 months ago)

I see, it's the fault of "all the myriad hardware variations...". But these don't seem to cause unpredictable variations in performance of most other software. Slow systems run most things slowly, and the converse.

2 upvotes
Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (10 months ago)

adobe sucks.. no better prove then this "update".

79 euro for such a few new features?
they must think people earn their money by drinking beer.

if you want me to upgrade adobe... include more new features that make an upgrade worth it.

oh and adobe, have a look at photo ninja and how to do proper color rescue and highlight recovery.

even with the slider at 100% lightroom is not able to rescue highlights that are a NO PROBLEM with photo ninja.

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14 upvotes
richardplondon
By richardplondon (10 months ago)

"even with the slider at 100%" - do you mean Recovery? That belongs to the LR3 processing method. Things have moved on a lot since then.

2 upvotes
Hugo808
By Hugo808 (10 months ago)

I agree, I've had the Beta version and it would make a good free update but to have to fork out $79 is a bit galling, especially as I only had LR 4 for two weeks before 5 was announced. Doh!

1 upvote
NetMage
By NetMage (10 months ago)

Adobe has a complimentary upgrade policy for purchasing the old version soon after the new version was announced, so check with customer support.

0 upvotes
jacek2008
By jacek2008 (10 months ago)

Still Capture NX2 renders NEFs so much better. Lightroom conversions look soft, lacking microcontrast compared to that what NX2 provides. Hopefully NX3 is around the corner;)

7 upvotes
R Ortiz
By R Ortiz (10 months ago)

I gave up on there ever being an NX3. And now that Nik Software was bought by Google, Nikon will have to find another company to build their software for them.

That's a real pity, because NX2 has amazing RAW rendering, but is slow as hell.

0 upvotes
MostlyHarmless
By MostlyHarmless (10 months ago)

First of all to be clear I have no connection with Adobe and have no intention of subscribing to CC (at least not with the current way it works and pricing).

Having said that, some seem to be viewing this very emotionally - Adobe's CEO is not sitting cackling in the board room saying 'we'll trap them in our lair!':-). Adobe have made what they think is a rational decision (many think they're wrong - could well be). But *any* alternative has risks: some companies offering them are small and could fold; some are part of the portfolio of larger companies and could be dropped; companies that have promised 'never to go cloud' could get taken over, or find it's cloud or fold. So upgrade or not if the extras are/aren't worth it to you - whatever you use - and always have a migration strategy just in case.

7 upvotes
jon404
By jon404 (10 months ago)

Adobe? You've got to be kidding. Bloatware.

4 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

BEWARE: Don't get caught in the cloud.
Adobe has a very smart way of selling their stuff.

First they tie you then they let you pay.

In today's world we could call Adobe's Creative Cloud - Ransomware!

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25 upvotes
Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (10 months ago)

You do know that Lightroom is not part of Adobes cloud right ??
Do learn how to read properly please.

4 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

Yes I am aware that LR 5 is not YET part of Creative Cloud. The 'foreseeable' future as Adobe calls it themselves end with LR5 watch my words!

Then there are some features in LR5 that are NOT supported under CS6 and won't be transfered to CS6 either... so with LR5 you are binding yourself to Adobe's cloud already.

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Nikon2011
By Nikon2011 (10 months ago)

one reason Adobe might leave LR out of the cloud is that photographers may say goodbye for other professional softwares (mac>aperture) for example, while the whole creative suite cannot be replaced by any other software suites.

1 upvote
blurredvision
By blurredvision (10 months ago)

Don't let them trap me? If I can switch from LR4 to something else now, then I can certainly switch from LR5 to something else later if I so choose.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

5 upvotes
dclivejazz
By dclivejazz (10 months ago)

Lightroom is available those of us with a CC subscription as part of the service. It's just that it will also still be available as a stand alone product, too. I'll download it later today.

0 upvotes
NetMage
By NetMage (10 months ago)

Adobe has said LR will continue to be available as a stand alone product in the future:

Q. Will Lightroom become a subscription only offering after Lightroom 5?

A. Future versions of Lightroom will be made available via traditional perpetual licenses indefinitely.

0 upvotes
bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (10 months ago)

Just purchased and installed without issue, the new features seem excellent.

12 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

So you paid 79 dollars for just 1 new brush and a radial filter....

Wow... people don't know what they spend their money on anymore these days.

BTW exporting is extreeeeeeemely slow in LR5.

12 upvotes
bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (10 months ago)

The keystone corrections alone are worth far more than that to me. Just because you don't need something doesn't mean proper photographers don't.

15 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

@bigdaddave

Proper photographers don't use LR, they know the benefits of Photoshop and don't take the LR's ACR module only solution...

5 upvotes
Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (10 months ago)

Why don't you try to apply same settings for say 200 pics in Photoshop and tell us how many hours it takes and I will do the same in Lightroom in less then 2 minutes....
You really need to KNOW what are you talking about before putting out dumb coments.

21 upvotes
Gabor Szantai
By Gabor Szantai (10 months ago)

Please tell me more about batched RAW processing in ACR and PS...
Besides reporters don't have to or they are not allowed to use PS.
Should be fun to downsize and correct dozens of images and upload the magazine or agency's server using only PS and ACR :)))

/facepalm

7 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

@Der Steppenwolf and Gabor

For that they have invented Actions and droplets within Photoshop.
I dare to bet with you that I can do 200 pictues in less time then you can with LR including exporting them as a JPEG.

If you don't know Photoshop, then indeed an app like LR will do just fine :)
Besides there are far better RAW converters like DXO, Aperture and dozens of other programs that do a far better job then LR.

Because LR has the Adobe stamp on it, doesn't mean its on top of the rest.

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Gabor Szantai
By Gabor Szantai (10 months ago)

@JaP,

Okay, I guess you have personal issues with Adobe and/or Lightroom.
For me it was the best option: cheaper than Capture One Pro, has features what I need, needs less CPU and memory than C1P.

Aperture is a joke, never seen anything that froze and quited so many times. Also had issues with my MBP's graphic card.
And we are talking about two Apple products...

DxO is quite week at human skin tones which is important for me. C1P would have been the best if it had not slowed down my Mac.
So thanks, we all have our opinions and experiences.
I do like Adobe products, not only because I also teach how to use them but these softwares come with the best performance regarding the circumstances where I use them in.

4 upvotes
Nikon2011
By Nikon2011 (10 months ago)

photoshop price vs lr price
huh.

1 upvote
Lea5
By Lea5 (10 months ago)

By Gabor Szantai (44 min ago)
/----Should be fun to downsize and correct dozens of images and upload the magazine or agency's server using only PS and ACR :)))

/facepalm

Well, well...
Of course you can! Via Bridge to PS to ACR you can process in a batch all images in a few seconds. We do that in our agency and in a short time the processed and downsized images are away to the printservers. If you don't know how to use Adobe products correctly then you should look for another hobby!

// double facepalm

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Gabor Szantai
By Gabor Szantai (10 months ago)

Dear Lea,

Have you ever tried to do the same process using Photoshop (Bridge) and Lightroom. (e.g. downsize, tag, upload) on site using nothing but a laptop?
You should check the performance. I have no doubts you can do but stop for a moment and think about what PS and what LR require.

Also we haven't mentioned the tethered photography.

I really don't get why people don't understand LR is a swiss army knife and PS is a tool box. Sometimes you can't have the tool box or it would be uncomfortable or unnecessary to carry.
There are 'and' and 'or' options.
I am an 'and' guy, who use that software what is the most relevant at the certain situation.

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2 upvotes
RadioGnome
By RadioGnome (10 months ago)

I'll wait for the .1 update unless loads of people convince me 5.0 is good. 4.0 was totally not usable on my 2009 macbook and I learned a hard lesson with that.

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1 upvote
Shaun Gibbs
By Shaun Gibbs (10 months ago)

Why is it more expensive in Australia? $189 for full and $99 for upgrade.

2 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

Because Adobe always let people pay more outside the US.
Its their policy to rip off not US residents.

15 upvotes
Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (10 months ago)

@Shaun Gibbs

Answer is spelled "taxes".

3 upvotes
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

@Der Steppenwolf

Wrong answer.... The real answer is spelled "GREED"

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
10 upvotes
Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (10 months ago)

no... only morons believe that... the answer is not taxes.
why people always repeat this nonsense when they have no clue?

in my case taxes are 1/4 of what adobe wants more from me then from a USA citizen.

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8 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (10 months ago)

This time I was rather pleasantly surprised : here is Switzerland, after VAT substraction, we are paying "only" 7.5% more than the Americans. Usually we have to pay about 20-30% more ! For the CC it was even 37% more.

May be it has something to do with the fact that the Competition Law was recently applied to other greedy companies like Nikon and BMW. Who knows ?

1 upvote
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (10 months ago)

Because they can.

0 upvotes
Marcin 3M
By Marcin 3M (10 months ago)

Any news about CaptureOne competitive upgrade from LR?

0 upvotes
Lea5
By Lea5 (10 months ago)

I used LR4 until the cloud subscription stupidy came to the world and I now use Capture One Pro succesfully with my D4 and D800E.

2 upvotes
DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (10 months ago)

Cloud subscription is not required for Lightroom 4 or 5.

2 upvotes
Philip Goh
By Philip Goh (10 months ago)

@Shawn Barnett
Do you guys really not get it?

While Lightroom 5 does not require a subscription to Creative Cloud, there is no guarantee that future versions of Lightroom won't. All the arguments for moving Photoshop to a subscription model apply equally to Lightroom, so to many on these boards the move to Creative Cloud is a question of when not if.

We stand to lose a lot when that happens, as all of our edits are stored in Lightroom's proprietary database. We will still have our RAW files but they'll lose all the adjustments and the cataloging metadata that we've built up over the years.

This is why I suspect a lot of photographers on these boards and elsewhere will be looking at alternatives.

16 upvotes
rabbitzilla
By rabbitzilla (10 months ago)

Same vision! I must find a place to land.

0 upvotes
bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (10 months ago)

At Philip Goh

But that won't stop LR5 working! Cut off your nose if you want to but LR is just the best at what it does (if you learn how to use it) version 5 is spectacular

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Marcin 3M
By Marcin 3M (10 months ago)

David, it looks like it is going to be with the next version.
In my place I can order it by phone right now, without option for online purchase.
Because lr is not only raw processor, but also DAM manager, I need to be perfectly sure about its future as perpetual license product. Adobe didn't convinced about the future of lr.
I still have PS, so new features are not worth upgrading, considering that in case of both products I need to save my work as a tiff to ensure subscription-free access to my work.

1 upvote
MostlyHarmless
By MostlyHarmless (10 months ago)

@Philip Goh
To be fair, the logic of 'cloud' (it's not really cloud that's the issue) is less compelling for Lightroom given the (likely) user base. And declarations to the contrary, you can't really expect any company to give a forever commitment to anything - so no guarantee that *any* company won't do this in the future.

Personally, I think a rational strategy is to keep using what I've got (LR4), upgrade if the extra features are worth it to me (not decided), and make sure I have a sensible migration path to something else if a future lightroom is subscription only (I have).

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Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

Edit to Shawn Barnett who says "Cloud subscription is not required for Lightroom 4 or 5."

Not for now, but for the next version you will.
That's what Adobe calls the foreseeable future....

1 upvote
Philip Goh
By Philip Goh (10 months ago)

I've previously suggested Adobe should rename Creative Cloud to Subscription Service. That more accurately describes what it is and allows everyone to see through the smoke and mirrors and properly evaluate the product.

Seen through the subscription lens, there is no reason why Lightroom would be exempt. Lightroom is approaching Photoshop in dominance. The upgrades are getting more incremental and as such users are increasingly more than happy to skip versions. This is the main issue Adobe and other dominant software companies contend with. A subscription means that their income is guaranteed and customers have to continue paying or they lose access to their files. No more skipping versions if the new version doesn't offer a significant improvement. While Photoshop PSDs are supported by 3rd party products, good luck transferring your Lightroom catalogue. You'll have to re-tag and re-apply all adjustments.

Those of us who see this are re-evaluating our investment in Lightroom.

2 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (10 months ago)

@ bigdaddave

Yes, LR5 will work untill you get a new camera or a new computer. Software obsolescence happens quite fast..

0 upvotes
Mark B.
By Mark B. (10 months ago)

If & when LR goes to CC only, then I'll move to an alternative. Right now it's still a standalone license and I'm going to continue using it.

2 upvotes
robert1955
By robert1955 (10 months ago)

[re-]evaluating like Goh is something you should always do when a new version appears, or the competition comes with something that might work better for you. My current evaluation is that LR5 is an interesting update. It also led me to the conclusion that the subscription-only model is ont necessarily in LR's future. So I see no reason to shoot myself in the foot in the hope of hurting Adobe.

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mimot13
By mimot13 (10 months ago)

@Marcin 3M : Phase One offer now a lower price for their software (-20% C1 Pro and 50% for C1 Express, upgrades and full version !). Fine, C1 is also better than LR, IMHO.

0 upvotes
luchs
By luchs (10 months ago)

Smartpreviews are not very usefull, unless it is possible to optionally always edit the smartviews instead of the attached raw, also if raw is online.

0 upvotes
NetMage
By NetMage (10 months ago)

Actually Adobe has said that perpetual licenses of LR will be available indefinitely, so their current intent is to continue providing both - see the Lightroom Journal:

Q. Will Lightroom become a subscription only offering after Lightroom 5?

A. Future versions of Lightroom will be made available via traditional perpetual licenses indefinitely.

0 upvotes
photo perzon
By photo perzon (10 months ago)

love the healing brush!!

1 upvote
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

Hate their pricing policy and the fact that exporting is extreeeeeeemely slow. Not worth 79 dollars to me.

The beta was sh*te...

1 upvote
bohdanz
By bohdanz (10 months ago)

I subscribed last month to CC, installed the new app updater - and don't see Lightroom 5 for downloading. Here we go, Adobe.

0 upvotes
Scorpius1
By Scorpius1 (10 months ago)

LR5 is not part of the CC...

0 upvotes
SimonV
By SimonV (10 months ago)

It is, actually. Lightroom that is. Strange if they won't include LR5.

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SimonV
By SimonV (10 months ago)

Just checked my Application manager and Lightroom 5.0 is downloadable, so it is included with CC.

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rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (10 months ago)

I'm not subscribed to CC, but when I opened LR4.4 and checked for updates, the answer was that there were still no updates available.

So I went to the Adobe store and bought the update and I'm now downloading the 5th version.

I guess that they don't want to allow all people to download the update at the same time.

0 upvotes
Gregm61
By Gregm61 (10 months ago)

I believe the answer there is, Lightroom 5 is not an "update" to Lightroom 4.4. It's an upgrade and you have to buy it. It is not the 5th version of Lightroom 4, it's the first version of Lightroom 5!

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Octane
By Octane (10 months ago)

Just tried to log in to my Adobe account so I can upgrade LR. Right after logging in, I was presented with a new agreement and the only option was to accept/agree.

Here an encouraging quote from the agreement:
"Collection of Subscription Fee. You agree that, in the event Adobe is unable to collect the Subscription Fees owed by you to Adobe for the Services, Adobe may take the steps it deems necessary to collect such Subscription Fees from you and that you will be responsible for all costs and expenses incurred by Adobe in connection with such collection activity."

Whatever Adobe. I'm never ever going to do any of your subscriptions!

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CBuff
By CBuff (10 months ago)

Well, seems Adobe is learning from the IRS... their new slogan should be "Your money at work", or "We're here to get you"

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johnsong
By johnsong (10 months ago)

It is not available as an individual license at this time

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Mark B.
By Mark B. (10 months ago)

Go to the link above, then click on the 'buying guide' link:
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom/buying-guide.html

There, that wasn't so hard was it?

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pdcm
By pdcm (10 months ago)

Thanks for link Mark B. Actually, it was hard.. Adobe so intent on pushing the dam Cloud it kept on going to the pricing for it.

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Barbu
By Barbu (10 months ago)

Until Adobe fixes the Cloud mess, I predict a huge increase in photography-related ads. On illegal torrents sites, of course ;)

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davidonformosa
By davidonformosa (10 months ago)

I'm currently using Lightroom 3.6. Is it possible to upgrade directly to Lightroom 5? Do I get to upgrade for the reduced price?

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Ethereal1
By Ethereal1 (10 months ago)

yes, you can upgrade for the reduced price from version 3.

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Rob Sims
By Rob Sims (10 months ago)

Yup - That's what I'm doing tonight. Go to:
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom.html

On the RHS, click upgrade, you can specify LR 3.x and it gives the same discount no matter which previous version you own.

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Barbu
By Barbu (10 months ago)

If you're from Europe, beware of the price gouging: $79 = €79.
Try to use a proxy, it's unbelievable that Adobe still practices this mindless price difference, for the exact same download. Oh wait, there's also English to English translation... :D

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cfh25
By cfh25 (10 months ago)

The UK pricing for the upgrade is £57.64, which includes 23% VAT (not sure how they get this figure) - at today's FX rates that's $89 or €68 - so given the tax included, it appears that USA customers are being gouged actually

P.S. the ex-VAT price is £46.86 = €55 = $72

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richardplondon
By richardplondon (10 months ago)

@cfh25: "The UK pricing for the upgrade is £57.64, which includes 23% VAT (not sure how they get this figure)"

I believe electronic delivery is supplied to the UK from Eire, so subject to their local VAT rates. Something to do with minimising corporate taxation, apparently... IIRC physical shipments do accrue the UK VAT rate, though.

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rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (10 months ago)

After substraction of the VAT (8% in my country) and given to-days changing rate, I paid about 2.25$ more than the Americans for the update (aka 81.25$)

Usually it is about 20-30% more for Adobe products, after VAT substraction. So this update looks fairer for us, although we are still somewhat subventionning US customers.

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mholdef
By mholdef (10 months ago)

I went to the link and only find Lightroom 4...

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Romka
By Romka (10 months ago)

dropped the ball on facial recognition … again

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Staxxx
By Staxxx (10 months ago)

Just wondering, as I bought CS6, does Adobe's new policy mean I will not be able to upgrade it with any advancements in the new version? Or will upgrades be offered as well as the full version on CC?

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

First thought: Sorry Adobe, don't ignore the fiasco with CS you started. Fix that, and I'll consider another product. Till then, nope.com.

Carl

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CBuff
By CBuff (10 months ago)

Same here ... not paying a dime to Adobe anymore

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robert1955
By robert1955 (10 months ago)

I'm making my decision solely on the merits LR5 has for me. As with Photoshop, I won't go subscription, but for LR that is not the case

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Not so far. Ever hear the tale about the frog in the pot of water?

C

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Pastynator
By Pastynator (10 months ago)

I'm not buying anything more from Adobe either.

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fyngyrz
By fyngyrz (10 months ago)

Does it still require OSX 10.7 like the beta did?

Worthless to me if it does. I have a very stable 10.6 system, not about to change it to get a feature CS5 already has, since CS5 runs just fine on 10.6.

Programmers who, in true knee-jerk fashion, require the latest OS from Apple for no good reason whatsoever, should be fired. Who are you serving, Adobe? Apple? Or the poor sod who pays you money for your app?

Well, with a 10.7-requiring app you made sure you wouldn't get my measly few dollars.

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robert1955
By robert1955 (10 months ago)

Blame Apple. That problem is going to stay happening and Apple is the root of it.

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Tom_N
By Tom_N (10 months ago)

While I'm running 10.6 on my own machine, 10.7 (Lion) is not "the latest OS from Apple". Apple is up to 10.8 (Mountain Lion) already, not counting whatever they may have planned for WWDC this week.

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fyngyrz
By fyngyrz (10 months ago)

Tom, there's still no need for an image processing application to require it. There isn't even any need to require 10.6. I know; I write such things for a living. Apple's even worse: Aperture won't load a 6D image unless you're using the RAW image add on from Apple, and while Aperture works under 10.6, the RAW image add on doesn't, which turned Aperture into a useless application for me.

I don't plan to change my OS level again until I buy an entirely new machine -- waiting on a new Mac Pro design for that. Lotta talk about that around, but no new machines yet.

In the meantime, I've written my own app, and that's keeping me fairly well entertained.

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fyngyrz
By fyngyrz (10 months ago)

Robert, I blame Apple for Aperture and the Apple RAW image update requiring more than need be.

But when Adobe decides to abandon customers with an OS just a couple years old, no, I blame Adobe. They didn't have to do it; they chose to do it; the blame is all theirs. Apple didn't make them do it.

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Joe P Doyle
By Joe P Doyle (10 months ago)

Mac OS X v10.6.8 or v10.7

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highpriest
By highpriest (10 months ago)

Yeah. Who in their right mind would want bug fixes, stability improvements, security patches, and new features anyway?

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ArcaSwiss
By ArcaSwiss (10 months ago)

Who cares I'm never giving Adobe another cent.

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Vizio Virtù
By Vizio Virtù (10 months ago)

Agree. Personally I can't remember Adobe anymore. Deleted all my legal (!) copies of their stuff (LR4 + CS5) and feel free now. No one needs this to create amazing pictures.

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robert1955
By robert1955 (10 months ago)

really you don't remember Adobe? you must have suffered severe trauma. treatment seems to be urgently needed
:) jus can't take that sort of comment seriously

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nekrosoft13
By nekrosoft13 (10 months ago)

is there facial recognition?

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Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (10 months ago)

No but it includes feces recognition...
Never going to buy any Adobe sh*te anymore...

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Deardorff
By Deardorff (10 months ago)

I can't find where you buy the disc to load into the computer. Anyone know where it is to order one?
My work computer for imaging does not go online.

Also, does LR5 convert Kodak Photo CD formats?

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Mark B.
By Mark B. (10 months ago)

The boxed version may not be available yet, but I did get an e-mail from B&H that it will be available soon. You can sign up to receive an e-mail notification when it is.
Kodak Photo CD? What format are the images in? If they're not a standard jpg or tiff I would think Kodak supplied software to convert them, no?

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Dennishh
By Dennishh (10 months ago)

Capture One!

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Swinster
By Swinster (10 months ago)

And still no photostitch panorama or HDR......

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