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Samsung NX300 real-world and test scene samples

By dpreview staff on Dec 23, 2013 at 06:00 GMT
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The following real-world gallery and test scene shots were first published in our 2013 Camera Roundups, but we're highlighting the Samsung NX300 again in case you missed it the first time around.  

The Samsung NX300 looks a lot like its predecessors, the NX200 and 210, but includes updates that show signs of ever-greater integration between the company's cameras and its smartphones. The NX300 is built around a 20MP APS-C format CMOS sensor that includes phase-detection focus elements to allow a Hybrid AF system for faster focusing. It also comes equipped with a touchscreen LCD and built-in Wi-Fi. 

We also published test scene shots, including downloadable Raw files of both the daylight and low light scene. As usual this allows you to compare the NX300 with other cameras, as well as letting you download the images to test with your own workflow.

There are 23 images in our samples gallery. Please do not reproduce any of these images on a website or any newsletter / magazine without prior permission (see our copyright page). We make the originals available for private users to download to their own machines for personal examination or printing (in conjunction with this review), we do so in good faith, please don't abuse it.

Unless otherwise noted images taken with no particular settings at full resolution.

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Total comments: 92
fotografije
By fotografije (4 months ago)

I got the NX100 body to play with some old lenses. APS-c sensor picks up the best part of the image, as these old lenses were not so good at corners. Leitz Summtiar performed very well and the sensor matches the lens capability. Focusing is a problem, because the display resolution is not enough for critical focusing even after the enlargement, and the focus indicator does not work very well. Working with these old lenses is fun, but it is slow. It makes me remember how it was time ago, one has to pay more attention. Another lens was a pleasant surprise, the 135 mm Jupiter 11. NX300 sensor should be even better.

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

On the NX100, try the "focus assist" feature--"FA" in the menus.

It can help with manual focus, far from perfect but a different kind of assistance. Gone from the NX300.

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offertonhatter
By offertonhatter (4 months ago)

I have always liked the look of the NX series cameras, that is the non-EVF models. Even the NX100.
I nearly bought the NX100, but was put off the rather slippy body. It almost felt that it would fall out of your hands. The NX200/300 are so much better.
However, there is still one thing that puts me off is their sensors. The original 14.6MP APS-C one used in Pentax K20D/K-7 is well off the mark above 800ISO. But their newer ones seems to be a lot better. Not Sony quality yet, but a lot better than that 14.6 one.
Their lenses seem pretty good though. I have a feeling that the optical design of the 18-55 is the same as the Pentax Kit lens, and no worse for that. The 85mm looks excellent from what I have seen.
Samsung are learning fast with good quality cameras and sensors. Just please stay away from fusing NX and Galaxy more. Please!

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

The sensor in the NX100 is excellent and there was a firmware update in late 2012. The processing in the camera matters too, so simply thinking it's exactly the same as the Pentax is a mistake. The NX100 can be used easily thru ISO 2000.

Then the sensor in the NX20 is excellent, so too the sensor in the NX300.

Get raws and extract them from the various bodies. Stay away from using DXO scores.

Right the 85mm lens is astounding, and the G'NX is silly.

0 upvotes
tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (4 months ago)

The sensor is now almost on par with the best APS-C. It's still (slightly) behind sony, pentax and nikon, but it's ahead of canon cameras.

I think Samsung should invest a lot to introduce a better sensor, able to become #1 in DXO mark and real world.

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

tecnoworld:

End image quality kinda be more important than DXO sensor scores.

And Samsung sensors, in NX bodies, don't have any particular IQ problems in the "real world".

Yep, Samsung's jpeg engine doesn't have the greatest reputation.

0 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (4 months ago)

I'm quite happy with my NX20, and am curious to see what an NX30 would be like.

I'm just happy to see some decent test scene shots done with a Samsung camera on here for a change.

3 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Shooting raw the NX300 produces excellent results at ISO 6400 and can be pushed above that level.

Samsung not at the pinnacle? Okay, I understand that many haven't used that f/1.4 85mm lens, but that's a good bit beyond anything from Fuji for the Xaspc system. That lens should make Leica and Zeiss concerned.

Can you link that 2008 document? Irony about smart phones--Samsung achieved that pinnacle.

0 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 months ago)

> a good bit beyond anything from Fuji for the Xaspc system

Fuji lenses? you set a quite low standard for Samsung, and a wrong standard for Samsung should be heading a different direction that they really shouldn't care Fuji at all.

> should make Leica and Zeiss concerned.

Leica and Zeiss are about prices, quality isn't something they care and is beyond what they can do.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (4 months ago)

Nonsense.

5 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (4 months ago)

Almost thought that review for Samsung NX300 will be somewhere around time, when there will be NX500 or something like that. :D

But for historical purpouses, why not..

1 upvote
rolleiflex
By rolleiflex (4 months ago)

I just came back from Hanoi Vietnam with the nx300 and kit lens. I also had a Samsung S4 Zoom phone for telephoto. The gallery is still work in progress but heres the link for the photos so far...

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152104155025610.1073741827.700745609&type=1&l=706f5d39fa

All can be viewed at 2048 pixels (max Facebook resolution)

will be adding more photos

Comment edited 37 seconds after posting
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b craw
By b craw (4 months ago)

Some very nice street shots. I really enjoy the image of the man in the parka on the motor scooter. Some good detail in the static figure amid all the bustle. Many of the images are very rewarding in their detail: the old guard, man sitting on scooter with bare feet, etc. Thx for sharing.

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b craw
By b craw (4 months ago)

Many of the criticisms are correct, particularly slow buffering. But, with the 18-55mm kit lens I have been very impressed with its performance and image quality photographing sculptural objects in studio (I don't do commercial portraiture, etc.). The articulating fairly large AMOLED screen is excellent in this context. Focus peaking - excellent. Of course, none of this is revolutionary but the full package is serving me very well as a professional. In other contexts, site-work in particular, it has also been quite capable (an EVF option would be nice, but I haven't found its absence not to be too much of a hinderance). I also find the iFn button on the lens really useful.

Listen, if your photographic cachet is impressing people with your gear, then this camera is probably not for you, although its build is decent and aesthetics are nice. I'm not about the pedigree of the camera I shoot with as long as it meets my needs - and this does, particularly in the very controlled circumstances in which I mostly work. I assure you very few will find much technical fault in the images I'm creating at present. And, admittedly, that would be the case were I to be shooting with most any mid-range mirrorless, particularly given some very good releases this year. I think a great many on this site might want to remind themselves that your work is not the gear you use; the gear you use is in service of the work. So, that this camera allows for a good mix of intuitive and more calculated control, which is a strength, allows me a good deal of space to conceptualize and work with the ebb and flow of artistic process.

11 upvotes
b craw
By b craw (4 months ago)

One commenter criticized it, for what I see is the simple fact that it is nearly a year old. The fact is performance and Image quality of many modestly priced mirrorless cameras are shrinking the gap between them and more expensive cameras, including DSLR's. What was once a huge gulf is now barely distinguishable in many contexts. And though I always cringe to place much value in them, the NX300 sensor/image quality according to DxO scores is right up there with most in the Sony NEX series and other well regarded MILC's, as well as much of the field of DSLR's.

2 upvotes
Gesture
By Gesture (4 months ago)

The Samsung interface and ergonomics are superb.

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james _
By james _ (4 months ago)

Samsung's sensors were always close enough to the competition. I knew they could come out with better sensors because they have the technology and resources- they're not dependent on their photo business for money at all, unlike other companies.

The only issue is if they can carve out a useful niche. I was hoping they'd develop their system into one with heritage and photocentric features, or maybe even be the next company to offer thorough video support. But their focus on hybrid smartphone cameras with the Galaxy NX is rather off-putting

4 upvotes
b craw
By b craw (4 months ago)

I agree on the whole for Samsung; they need a philosophy with which they can get traction in the camera market. The NX300 could be a beginning point of sorts, just making headway in term of better general perception of quality. But marketing thus far has been underwhelming.

As mirrorless cameras see increased demand (assuming they will) positioning will be very important, and that will necessitate a philosophy that can be effectively communicated. I thought the Sony NEX series had a successful approach, but now I don't know. I was mistaken until recently thinking Sony could give the line some time to mature with modest profits, leaning on the success of its other electronics. Recently adjusted earnings projections are very shaky across the board for Sony. I don't think any major camera maker can sustain loses for long. If Samsung wants better standing in the market, it better get moving soon, and the Galaxy NX doesn't seem to be making too many friends.

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tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (4 months ago)

I've been a nx user for years now, I own three bodies and several lenses.

I'm very against the galaxy nx idea.

Instead I think samsung should invest much money and make a prosumer product ala em1, with a brand new aps-c sensor able to place itself at #1 in dxo (for aps-c format, of course). Huge buffer, ibis,mweather sealing and high res/high dr evf. All this at a very competitive price, say 800/1000€ body only.

Only in this way samsung will get attention. Being average or 'fairly' good is not enough for a company that's unrecognized in this sector. They need to be outstanding.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

techno:

Well they have some optically outstanding lenses, but right a very well done body akin to the Fuji XE2 or Oly EM1 with a very good APSC Samsung sensor would attract some attention.

At least Samsung has the money to invest in such a project if they want.

Right the Galaxy is silly as an idea and silly as implementation, and I have nothing against network capable camera bodies.

The only possible defense of the Galaxy NX is that some company had to try it and Samsung had the money, the processing chips, the sensor, the wifi, and the lenses to try. Too few buttons and single M-SD card removable storage being only two obvious drawbacks; drawbacks that could have been avoided even while sticking with Android.

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ray07
By ray07 (4 months ago)

Samsung camera play a joke....If u are not a photographer can try it.

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DELETED88781
By DELETED88781 (4 months ago)

what a crap IQ particular WB and skin tone
Good photographer with a wrong tool

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b craw
By b craw (4 months ago)

I'm not sure if you actually are referencing the test scene. I set up the NX300, Fujifilm X-E2, and Olympus EM-1. In most parts of the image, there is appreciatively more detail from the NX300 than both the others - up to ISO 800, JPEG and RAW. That, of course, does not tell the full story of image quality, but it undermines your seemingly certain dismissal of the Samsung.

4 upvotes
b craw
By b craw (4 months ago)

With the NX300 JPEG detail does decay rapidly from ISO 3200 up. RAW's hold up quite a bit better at higher ISO's.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (4 months ago)

indeed the samsung's pics are sharper and with better contrast.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (4 months ago)

Samsung still making cameras. They have a nonexistent profile IMO. I was reading an article from 2008 about Samsung's bold plans to be #3 by 2010. I guess that document wasn't read by any body else at Samsung. Also they had bold plans to have FF DSLR, that disappeared quickly. I've never seen anyone using an NX camera, just their Samsung smartphones. Like a lot of things Samsung does, they can't quite reach the pinnacle.

IQ looked ok, but 99% of the shots were at ISO 100. Why not a mix of ISOs. Any of the advanced P&S cameras these days can turn in excellent IQ at base ISO, no need for a big sensor for that. The one ISO 6400 shot was quite poor.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Shooting raw the NX300 produces excellent results at ISO 6400 and can be pushed above that level.

Samsung not at the pinnacle? Okay, I understand that many haven't used that f/1.4 85mm lens, but that's a good bit beyond anything from Fuji for the Xaspc system. That lens should make Leica and Zeiss concerned.

Can you link that 2008 document? Irony about smart phones--Samsung achieved that pinnacle.

1 upvote
Timmbits
By Timmbits (4 months ago)

We can't punish Samsung for what some drunken journalist reported on what a sales rep told them.
Number 4 is a more realistic target, imho, because Sony is modernizing their lineup, and Canikon aren't about to go away.
Can't wait to see what they come out with for FF though.
Very happy with NX20 and two primes: 30mm f2 and 45mm f1.8 :)

2 upvotes
stevens37y
By stevens37y (4 months ago)

open source firmware: +++++
1080/60p video: +++++

3 upvotes
shademaster
By shademaster (4 months ago)

Next up, the 5DmkII

0 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (4 months ago)

Compared to some of the other subpar cameras reviewed recently, this camera will most certainly please the reviewers here and will without a doubt be the next Gold Award camera.

Excellent IQ, solid lens lineup and from what I've read, superb handling and WiFi as a bonus. And it's small enough to fit in a small camera bag rather than a medium sized one.

4 upvotes
Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (4 months ago)

I tend to wander into the Samsung store often, and I'm always surprised by the NX300 every time I touch it. Always being a traditionalist, it's going to take a lot more convincing to break away from the Japanese manufacturers, but I'd love to see a full review and be told that what I am seeing isn't a fluke. I think it's an amazing camera that not many people would give a chance, but are comfortable knocking on due to their very small market share. Full review please!!!

6 upvotes
kimchiflower
By kimchiflower (4 months ago)

Samsung ILC = Pentax DSLR:

[x] bodies well-featured and good value
[x] some excellent lenses
[x] top quality IQ
[ ] available at all good quality camera retailers

5 upvotes
carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (4 months ago)

I still dont understand why they aren't popular, really...i think its the best price/performance available out there.

9 upvotes
jl_smith
By jl_smith (4 months ago)

I'll tell you exactly why they're not popular.

1) Their control scheme is extremely amateurish.
2) They don't allow EVF, even as an option.
3) They're Samsung, not exactly known as a strong camera brand.

That said, I took a look at Samsung's line and it's pretty interesting, but some of their focal lengths are a little strange for APS-C (45mm and 85mm).

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (4 months ago)

Is there anything Samsung does that Sony or Fuji doesn't do better?

Oh yes... WIFI. Samsung is the WIFI king. Well, this might not be a killer feature for everyone.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Marty:

You should probably familiarize yourself with good Samsung NX lenses, the good ones easily equal Fuji optics for optical quality--though not build.

And the best one equals good Leica and Zeiss optical quality and is built at nearly that level.

While Sony lenses not so much, though there are the Zeiss variations which can be pretty good.

Comment edited 33 seconds after posting
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dagobah
By dagobah (4 months ago)

Samsung and Pentax actually had a DSLR partnership for a while, making cameras using Pentax KAF mount (Samsung GX-10 ~ Pentax K10D, GX-20 ~ K20D). It's too bad this didn't pan out.

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shademaster
By shademaster (4 months ago)

@Marty, Most people get into NX because of the primes (size and price). They make sense. Sony's don't.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (4 months ago)

@Marty:
Sammy vs. Sony: Lenses.
Sammy vs. Fuji: Price.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

jl_smith:

It took Sony several tries to approach the control/menu quality of Samsung NX bodies--with the exception the the Galaxy NX, which is a different approach.

In other words, NX controls are good to excellent across the NX range. Sony's not for the Nex system.

Why wouldn't you want a 45mm lens, that's about 70mm in FF terms? The 85 would be like a very fast 135mm lens, and the NX 85mm lens is optically extraordinary.

You seem confused about which lenses sizes are of import in ASPC terms. And the 30mm f/2.0 is optically excellent.

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JmaverickPro
By JmaverickPro (4 months ago)

I found the control scheme on the nx100 to be far more simple and intuitive than Canon's offerings, but maybe that's just my preference. I found it practical, not amateurish.

I wish Samsung had better publicity, they have a good product.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (4 months ago)

jlsmith needs glasses: they do offer a model with an EVF.
it's no secret, and it's called the NX20!
stop b!tching and look at the model made for you!

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Timmbits:

The NX20 may have been discontinued, and what stock there is for sale new is left over.

An NX300 body with an EVF like the Fuji XE2 would be great, so would more optically excellent lenses, or even optically better versions of the current lenses. I hope for a 45mm lens that equals the optical quality of the 85mm.

Except for that buffer, there's a lot to recommend the NX20.

I wish Samsung had reduced the pixel count for the NX300 and made shooting above ISO 6400 easy. 16MP would be just fine for most applications.

I don't think the Galaxy NX is even a good implementation of an Android camera, and Samsung should stick with the menus of the NX100+20+300 for the interchangeable lensed bodies.

Comment edited 7 minutes after posting
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cgarrard
By cgarrard (4 months ago)

Samsung's rubbing elbows with cell phone users is not going to save their photo business (what little there is of it in the first place).

Samsung had a chance to really get ahead of Sony and other mirrorless makers and totally dropped the ball. Then they ran off the field and realized later what they had done. They then try to come back into the game. Uh no... it don't work that way Samsung.

NX300 is old news, stale.

Carl

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AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (4 months ago)

"old news" cameras can take world-class pictures - especially if they are combined with excellent optics such as those that Samsung offers. Their sensors are really good according to several pro's who have tested them.

Don't underestimate them, I'd say.

7 upvotes
Nectar D Or
By Nectar D Or (4 months ago)

Don't underestimate non-USA markets.

5 upvotes
eilivk
By eilivk (4 months ago)

Dropped the ball, really?
After enjoying G3 with 20mm for a while, got NX10 and 30mm very cheap. G3 better in low light, but in daylight NX10 is better, especially branches and leaves sharper. And VERY easy to use. And I'm sure NX300 is a LOT better.
But the 60mm is twice the weight of the Oly 60mm, a problem for the NX system.

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Magnus3D
By Magnus3D (4 months ago)

Reverse the situation and think if Apple released exactly the same camera with exactly the same lens and features. People here would love every pixel of it.

But now when it's manufactured by Samsung, it seems to be a hateobject instead.

Humans are strange..

7 upvotes
caver3d
By caver3d (4 months ago)

Don't worry. At least Samsung makes some excellent HDTVs - better than Sony. Great, great picture. They should loan out some of their engineers to the camera division.

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

caver3d:

Why Samsung NX cameras have no problems with image quality when shooting raw.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (4 months ago)

Sammy dropped prices considerably. The NX300 with 18-55 kit can be found now for less than 450€ in Germany. Incredible price/performance.

Lenses also recently lost some chunk of their price. The pancakes - 20mm and 30mm - can be found for less than 150-200€. The 12-24 - for about 500€, the cheapest 1st party UWA option I'm aware of.

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straylightrun
By straylightrun (4 months ago)

Canon 11-22mm for EOS-M is cheaper than 12-24mm where I live.

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Parappaman
By Parappaman (4 months ago)

Yeah, but you must be brave enough to purchase a Canon EOS-M in the first place.

9 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 months ago)

EF-M 11-22 is the best one, too.

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

ThePhilips:

I wish Samsung could figure out a way to drop the prices on the f/1.4 85mm lens and keep the extraordinary optical quality and very good build quality, but only a dream.

Shooting raw yes, the image quality from the NX300 is excellent, though the cheaper kit zoom, without OIS, is the optically better lens. However the NX300 still has buffering problems, not quite as bad as those on the NX20.

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KL Matt
By KL Matt (4 months ago)

BREAKING NEWS: Samsung announces new NX300! Seriously though,
??? This camera launched nearly one full year ago. ???

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AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (4 months ago)

And? That invalidates the image quality?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

KL:

It's not "breaking news", unless it's body 3 for the NX300.

It's months old news. The rear screen flips up for self portraits, who cares?

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stevens37y
By stevens37y (4 months ago)

>>flips up for self portraits, who cares?
e.g. those who take selfies
The world is full of young people who don't care of the 'old school' features.

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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KL Matt
By KL Matt (4 months ago)

For the irony-proof among us: I know it's old news. The odd thing is that they're doing this now of all times, when Samsung are probably readying their next release. I've known about the performance of the NX300 from other sources for nearly a year now. Yes, it's still competitive with the best out there. But there have also been other cameras released since then with even better performance, making it less competitive now than a year ago. In an industry in which technology evolves so fast, waiting a year to take test shots is truly missing the boat.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

KL M:

I assume you mean the high ISO performance of the Fuji XE2; the Fuji is good but the Samsung is excellent through ISO 6400. And that 85mm f/1.4 is better than anything from Fuji, and Fuji makes good lenses.

However then there's the Samsung buffer, ugh.

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JmaverickPro
By JmaverickPro (4 months ago)

I think KL Matt is pointing out that it would nice to have test results when a camera is new and at it's peak costumer interest, not once it is near replacement.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

JmaverickPro:

Fair enough, but DPReview takes its time with so called secondary items, don't think there's been a review of the Nikon D4 and I know there hasn't been one for the Leica M240. More to the point has there been a review and/or preview of the Olympus XZ10?

And DPReview did do something of a preview for the Galaxy NX, I think there were samples, and from those it's pretty easy to see the image quality of the sensor in the Samsung NX300.

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wootpile
By wootpile (4 months ago)

Dpreview: What lens did you use?

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Parappaman
By Parappaman (4 months ago)

Check EXIF - they used the kit lens.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (4 months ago)

For the studio test: the Pentax 50mm f/2.8 lens. (Hover the 'i' button.)

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 months ago)

there was a time that no body other than Canon could make high quality sensors. it's everyone but Canon now.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (4 months ago)

Because everybody but Canon is using Sony sensors.

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christian jacob
By christian jacob (4 months ago)

Samsung doesn't...
And then there's the Toshiba one in some of the Nikons

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Leandros S
By Leandros S (4 months ago)

Nikon also designs some of its own (manufactured by Renesas).

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AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (4 months ago)

Not to mention Aptina.

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Revenant
By Revenant (4 months ago)

And besides Canon, Sony, Samsung, Toshiba and Renesas, there's also Panasonic, Aptina, CMOSIS and Foveon.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 months ago)

Foveon is rubbish.

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RFC1925
By RFC1925 (4 months ago)

Looks like Samsung's sensor technology is no longer behind the competition but ahead. Excellent results.

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Leandros S
By Leandros S (4 months ago)

Ahead of Canon, but behind Pentax, Nikon and Sony, according to DxOMark.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (4 months ago)

@RFC1925
Sammy sensors were always good. Crappy JPEG engine causes most of the bad publicity (and IMO rightfully so!).

@Leandros S
> according to DxOMark.

DxO? Really? The pseudoscience for photographers? The placebo pill for the lacking skill?

"Images are not enough of the proof of the IQ! Give me the made up numbers instead!"

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (4 months ago)

Except for shadow noise, mostly amp glow. See shadows in low light RAW scene above ISO 800 (blue/purple), which also directly affects usable DR.
But I bet it won't take them too long to counter that too.

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dagobah
By dagobah (4 months ago)

"ThePhilips" -- why is it pseudoscience for DxO to actually make a measurement of noise and DR? Maybe your favorite camera didn't perform so well?

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kecajkerugo
By kecajkerugo (4 months ago)

even it really is...there is some problem with the brand.....it is just Samsung... a company w/o character, a company manufacturing gadgets, a company does not bring certain mood to a photographs, something missing here, not technical, something important for many of us, something which can be delivered by Olu, Fuji, Nikon ,,....but never by Samsung or even by Sony...tradition!

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (4 months ago)

@dagobah, two main problems with DxO:

1. Many of their numbers (or better: difference in numbers) do not correlate with the real world IQ.

2. Some cameras with the same sensor often score very differently, suggesting that their "measurements" are very imprecise.

Otherwise, I largely base my camera purchases on lenses (lens catalog and lens I intend to use primarily with the camera), rather than on bodies. IQ of all cameras got sufficiently good to not to care about it.

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Revenant
By Revenant (4 months ago)

DxO doesn't analyze real world images, in fact they don't analyze final output images at all. They analyze the raw values of the unconverted, undemosaiced raw file to avoid the influence of any specific converter software. Great for assessing the underlying hardware performance, but not necessarily so great for assessing final image quality in practical use.

The same sensor may have differences in the optical filters in front of the sensor (CFA, AA etc.), as well as in the associated electronics. Some (all?) camera manufacturers also apply noise reduction to the raw data, which may account for differences in the raw files. Finally, DxO claim that the error of margin in their tests is 1/3 EV.

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JEROME NOLAS
By JEROME NOLAS (4 months ago)

Excellent performance!

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Not the buffer, the rest right.

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onlooker
By onlooker (4 months ago)

This one is impressive: https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.galleries.dpreview.com/2758111.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=14Y3MT0G2J4Y72K3ZXR2&Expires=1387784461&Signature=I3YEJG70VPFq9i1hEa4GvDaq%2FNM%3D

Pity the NX300 has no viewfinder. Otherwise it would have been an attractive camera.

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ConanFuji
By ConanFuji (4 months ago)

No, thank you.
Anyway you can tether it to your phone. Why would you need to peek into that thing? If you need to, it's not for you.

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Arn
By Arn (4 months ago)

The lack of a viewfinder is absolutely the biggest thing missing from this otherwise great camera and there are a ton of reasons for wanting an EVF / OVF in your camera. The befenits of an EVF have been discussed on the Samsung forum and other forums. An essential item for many situations. For example: shooting in bright sunlight, at longer focal lengths and giving better support for the camera to reduce camera shake at eye level.

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Parappaman
By Parappaman (4 months ago)

Because there is no Samsung NX20 on the market as we speak, right?

I know it's long overdue for an update (and no, it is not the Galaxy NX, that camera is a gimmicky joke), but why nobody remembers the rest of the lineup?

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straylightrun
By straylightrun (4 months ago)

@ Parappaman

Yes but like most other mirrorless systems, there's usually an EVF flat rangefinder camera and an EVF dslr like camera along with the cameras without EVFs. Samsung already has a plethora of rangefinder type bodies with no EVFs, so many enthusiasts were hoping the NX300 would be the one with built in EVF just before it was announced.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Arn:

While I agree that a VF is needed on this body, it's not the only thing lacking from this body.

The buffer is still too slow, shoot 4-5 raws in quick succession, and the system locks up even with the fastest SD card.

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Arn
By Arn (4 months ago)

@ Parappaman: Yes, the the NX20 is a great camera and too often forgotten. Even though it's been around a few years now, it's still a pleasure to shoot with. Size/weight/ergonomics/performance combination of the camera is fantastic. I use the NX20 myself and see no reason to update until an NX30 comes along (just waiting for more fast lenses!). I'm just waiting for the next version, which will have sensor phase detection AF like on the NX300. Also, I presume overall responsiveness will be top notch and the tilt+swivel LCD will be there like on the NX20 (one of the NX20's best features I have to say).

@ HowaboutRAW: correct, Samsung would do well to improve the buffer. A camera shouldn't lock up because the buffer is full. This is something that for example Canon has done right for a long time.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (4 months ago)

Arn:

I returned the NX20 because of the buffering problems.

One example of the Galaxy NX that I tried seemed to have the buffering problem solved for single raws, but another didn't. And since the Android interface is so stupid, I'd not buy the camera anyhow. Perhaps a faster MicroSD card would solve the buffer problems that I experienced with that one example of the G'NX, but I don't care for the camera.

It's not great, but the buffer on my NX100 bodies works well enough with a fast card.

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