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Adobe adds color profiles for Olympus cameras to ACR and Lightroom

By dpreview staff on Dec 13, 2013 at 01:26 GMT

Adobe's latest versions of Camera Raw and Lightroom contained a pleasant surprise for Olympus owners - color profiles for image conversion. We've re-processed one of the images from our Olympus OM-D E-M1 sample gallery to see how closely the profiles match the camera's 'Natural' setting.

Up until now, profiles have mainly been available for Canon and Nikon cameras, with Sony, Pentax and Leica represented more recently. Product Manager Sharad Mangalick explains: 'adding the color profile support for Olympus has been a long standing customer request.'

ACR doesn't let you explicitly select lens profiles for any Olympus lenses, but those lenses that have corrections as part of their designs are corrected automatically. Images shot with the OM-D E-M1 (which writes chromatic aberration correction parameters into its Raw files) also have lateral chromatic aberrations corrected.

Comparison 'Natural' JPEG vs. Adobe 'Camera Natural' profile:

Out-of-camera 'Natural' JPEG ACR conversion with 'Camera Natural' profile
100% Crop 100% Crop

As you can see, the new profile isn't an exact match, but it's considerably closer than the existing Adobe Default profile.

Comments

Total comments: 30
SonyColy
By SonyColy (4 months ago)

Another sample the Adobe natural greens look neon, I prefer the huelight profiles.

http://www.mu-43.com/showthread.php?t=56992&p=569173#post569173

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claudio 1973
By claudio 1973 (4 months ago)

They look similar to me... the cam jpg perhaps a bit better

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Steve Bingham
By Steve Bingham (4 months ago)

Why is the ACR fuzzier than the JPG? It does not make sense!

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Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (4 months ago)

It does if person doing conversion is bad at it.

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nenox
By nenox (4 months ago)

It's commonly accepted that ACR does a pretty bad job of interpeting Olympus Raw's. Loss of detail and fine tonality, compared to the Olympus Jpg's. Not always something you can get around with settings. Unfortunately this is still pretty evident in the example files, even with the camera profiles :-(

This is why some people use Olympus Viewer to get the initial interpertation of the RAW. Then they export to 16-bit Tiff for further processing in LR/CS

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hkaspenberg
By hkaspenberg (4 months ago)

Same with all X-sensor Fujifilm cameras. But since Olympus is std. bayer-matrix, it should not be that hard for Adobe to improve.

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joe6pack
By joe6pack (4 months ago)

Does it mean that I can apply Oly color to pictures taken with my Sony?

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Keytsa
By Keytsa (4 months ago)

No, but for that you have other programs like DFX and Topaz plugins to name a few...

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pdelux
By pdelux (4 months ago)

No it wont even appear as an option for your camera.

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piratejabez
By piratejabez (4 months ago)

Could you add a crop of the Adobe Default profile image to this page so people can compare side-by-side?

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christiangrunercom
By christiangrunercom (4 months ago)

Hmm, worse than the in-camera jpg! what the beeeeep...

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dyoon153
By dyoon153 (4 months ago)

I think in-camera jpg is slightly over-saturated compared to the new profile, which looks more smoother, at least on my screen.
If going through PP, I'd rather to have less saturated image than over-saturated ones (which are harder for me to revert)..

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Leandros S
By Leandros S (4 months ago)

@dyoon153: But good Sir, the exact opposite is the case - ACR more saturated than OOC, surely on any screen?!

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naththo
By naththo (4 months ago)

It is not hard to make your own profile by using sliders to compare to the JPEG colours straight out of your camera.

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naththo
By naththo (4 months ago)

By simply with colour calibration card, take picture using raw+jpeg for each picture style and then make your own one thats what I mean.

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Vasyl Tsvirkunov
By Vasyl Tsvirkunov (4 months ago)

That would work if the color response was linear or at least regular. It is not. It may be close to that in the middle of gamut but the closer you get to the edge the more warped it may become.

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Vasyl Tsvirkunov
By Vasyl Tsvirkunov (4 months ago)

This finally fixed my favorite (not!) problem with rendering of blues (http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/42354760).

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berni29
By berni29 (4 months ago)

Hi

This is great news. A massive timesaver for me.

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WT21
By WT21 (4 months ago)

But how are skin tones?

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Paulmorgan
By Paulmorgan (4 months ago)

Not to bad, there much better than the old adobe default.

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Laszlo13
By Laszlo13 (4 months ago)

Weird, the camera JPEG looks much better on the 100% close up - both sharper and without artifacts.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (4 months ago)

What you are seeing is that the ACR reds/oranges are too saturated and the flower has lost some detail. If you decreases saturation in that channel you will see that detail again. Adobe doesn't handle reds very well.

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Akpinxit
By Akpinxit (4 months ago)

Well , there is loss of details in the shadows too .
And anyway , why would one choose to use an "updated" profile (or any for that reason) if it still , among the rest "doesn't handle reds very well" ?
I suppose , it still would be better to stick to native soft .

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piratejabez
By piratejabez (4 months ago)

It might be worth noting that LR has many options for fine-tuning color rendition to taste, which can be set as presets along with the profile though (not sure if many get this detailed, though). Oly's detail retention in the red flower is very impressive, however.

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NeroMetalliko
By NeroMetalliko (4 months ago)

Hello,
this is a good addition,
but the problem I have noticed is that the "default" profile for the E-M1 (and Panasonic GM1 too) is not consistent with the previous models (E-M5, E-P5 or GH3) as for reds/oranges color rendition.
And it seems to me that this "inconsistency" is affecting even Sony A7/A7r and Nikon D5300 cameras for example.
I have posted my observations here:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52704051
Any comment/opinion is welcome in that regard,
many thanks in advance for the attention.

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (4 months ago)

We need Fuji's!!!

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Stephen Scharf
By Stephen Scharf (4 months ago)

Amen to that!

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Vasyl Tsvirkunov
By Vasyl Tsvirkunov (4 months ago)

What we need is an open API so every camera manufacturer can provide their own profiles with cameras. In principle, it is not anymore complex than dealing with printer/paper profiles. Simpler, actually.

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Leandros S
By Leandros S (4 months ago)

But Vasyl, these user-made profiles have been circulating for years. Did Adobe change something recently?

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Vasyl Tsvirkunov
By Vasyl Tsvirkunov (4 months ago)

People were able to reverse engineer the process to large extent. As a matter of fact, I've been using one of these custom made profiles. The problem is that Adobe did not publish the spec, did not encourage the manufacturers to use it, and makes breaking changes on the regular basis. It is not necessarily only Adobe's fault, some initiative should come from the manufacturers.

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