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DPReview Gear of the Year Part 1: Fujifilm X100S

By dpreview staff on Nov 12, 2013 at 06:00 GMT
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A lot of equipment passes through our Seattle and London offices, everything from high-end cameras to inexpensive accessories. A lot of it gets reviewed, but we can't cover everything. In this series of short articles, DPReview staff will be highlighting their personal standout products of the year. In part 1, editor Barnaby Britton takes us through his personal favorite - the Fujifilm X100S.

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Total comments: 306
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kwanstep
By kwanstep (3 months ago)

where did you get the red button for your camera?

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VictorTrasvina
By VictorTrasvina (3 months ago)

Just Google: Soft Release Buttom and you’ll get plenty of options, i personally like Tom Abrahamsson but Artisan Obscura makes great products as well

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jonasvdlande
By jonasvdlande (4 months ago)

I own a X100s since October. I love it. Excellent colors and sharpness and a fantastic "real" feel to all pictures. The manual focus aid is really useful.It replaces my Nikon d800E about 98% of the time. Only when I shoot a portrait with real shallow depth of field I use the 800E/ 85-1.4 combo. For everything else (exept sports, that's the other 1 percent) I simply grab the X100S. A true winner.

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minzaw
By minzaw (4 months ago)

why so big n bulky?

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mosc
By mosc (4 months ago)

I prefer 25mm to 35mm. I don't think they could make f2.0 though at 25mm in anywhere near that size class.

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JapanAntoine
By JapanAntoine (3 months ago)

well, get the wide angle adapter and you'll be at 28mm f2 on this camera. It's a bit bulkier, but if you prefer that focal length...

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brianhiatt
By brianhiatt (5 months ago)

I just moved to the x100s and it's a great
Camera. It's not perfect but I don't miss my Nikon gear unless I want to change focal length. That said at this point the way I will do that will be with a xpro2 or whatever comes out next year. Fuji has some magic right now, I really hope they keep it!

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photo perzon
By photo perzon (5 months ago)

My wife who is 50 years old looks 40 with the X100 and 60 with the X100S. The S deepens shadows, wrinkles. You can see the S pictures, even in daylight the shadows are deep black with no detail inside the shadows. The X100 lets you see what is in the shadows. It is more natural. You decide if you wanna look 20 years difference. The X100 is brilliant. The S has issues, and RAW issues.

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JapanAntoine
By JapanAntoine (3 months ago)

did not notice anything like that with my own wife... but try an iPhone from 20 yards away in a dark tunnel and you might even get queen lizbeth to look 20...

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (5 months ago)

Dear DP Review.
Is there some way we can have all replies to posts automatically showing?
It is time wasting to continually have to click to see the remaining replies.
Thanks

4 upvotes
J Parker
By J Parker (5 months ago)

I shoot Sony mirrorless about 90% of the time. But for that 10% of the time when color rendition has to be not only good, but phenomenal, I reach for my Fujifilm cameras.

The X100/X100s has clearly been the most influential camera of the last few years -- and that has been a good thing.

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josephimartineau
By josephimartineau (5 months ago)

Fujifilm makes cameras from basic point & shoots, to professional grade cameras that have scaled Mt. Everest, gone to the International Space Station, and to Antarctica. Nikon has my vote (as well as much of my wallet).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUstAihP-F4

Comment edited 18 seconds after posting
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Woodlink
By Woodlink (5 months ago)

I wanted to HATE the X100S

I thought I'd make me hate myself for all that Canon gear I've bought.

Bought one anyway.

I love, love, love the X.

Damn you, Fuji.

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Marcos Villaroman
By Marcos Villaroman (5 months ago)

Yeah. I really wasn't looking to buy the X100S when I went to the local camera store looking for the Ricoh GR.

Then I made the mistake of handling the X100S in the store. I thought I was safe because there was no way it would be in stock. But, it was. Now I have to have until next year before buying the 135L.

But, I'm finding the X100S is always in my camera bag. It might be by itself, with my EOS-M, or 5D3, but, it will be in the bag.

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reginalddwight
By reginalddwight (5 months ago)

Fun time of year.

My guess at Barney's Top 5 Cameras of 2013:

5) Fuji X100S

4) Canon 70D

3) Nikon Df

2) Olympus OM-D E-M1

1) Sony A7/R

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

No don't you remember? He thinks the Nikon Df is silly.

The X100s is the "camera of the year" but the Nikon Df is somehow lacking. lol.

And since we are having fun, nobody but a Canon user would put the 70D over the D7100 or K-3 on that list. At least nobody I can think of. But it's all good.

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reginalddwight
By reginalddwight (5 months ago)

That is true. Barney may have been tanked up when he was writing the Df preview.

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HawaiiVolcanoes
By HawaiiVolcanoes (5 months ago)

The Nikon DF is not a camera. It is a perverted marketing joke from the "Company formally known as Nikon"

3 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

> The Nikon DF is not a camera.

Yes, the DF is not a camera and you're not trolling.

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Cal22
By Cal22 (5 months ago)

I appreciate Barney Britton's somewhat personal approach to his Fujifilm X100S! Camera reviews can have a misleading effect on their readers, making them look for the best camera to buy. But they all have their advantages and disadvantages, and what might be "the best" one now, will be surpassed by a better one very soon; the race in the market is getting faster and faster.

Barney Britton makes it very clear, that instead of a heavy weight equipment to carry he likes his small X100S and has fun with it. So, look for a camera that suits you and your specific needs! By the way, a camera can be more than just a thing to use, it can be kind of a companion to you, similar to the relationship between a musician and his instrument. And the better your pictures, the more you'll like your companion!

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Woodlink
By Woodlink (5 months ago)

Wish it did come in black, but bought one anyway.

Black won't make it take better pictures.

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scotbot
By scotbot (5 months ago)

Would look great though.

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JapanAntoine
By JapanAntoine (3 months ago)

seems Fuji read your post ;-)

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eljamoquio
By eljamoquio (5 months ago)

Is Fuji still lying about it's ISO, so people who don't do in-depth tests are fooled?

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CliveRowland
By CliveRowland (5 months ago)

if it only shows up in in-depth tests, then why should anyone care? There's more to the cameras than their ISO performance.

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intruder61
By intruder61 (5 months ago)

yep, Fuji are lying and i love it, and the only in depth test is on the mrs......you should try it on yours.

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

CliveRowland - it shows in depth tests and actual usage, when you need to set longer exposure times to a given ISO, or - more annoyingly - set higher ISO for given exposure times, what ends in a worse image quality than that advertised by "quick" reviews that do not take this into account (people compare ISO 1600 vs ISO1600 while to be fair and informative they should compare it vs 3200 or even 6400 (depending on a camera model) ).

[edit]Though I completely agree that there's more to a camera than just high ISO performance.

Comment edited 45 seconds after posting
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nawknai
By nawknai (5 months ago)

Because the ISO setting is 1-stop incorrect.

This issue DOES show up in real use. Whether YOU know or not is another issue entirely.

If someone reads a DPR review and compares ISO performance, and bases their buying decision partly on the ISO performance test, then they're being fooled.

Personally, I still love my X100 (original, not "S"), and my X-Pro 1, but eljamoquio has raised a valid point.

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HomoSapiensWannaBe
By HomoSapiensWannaBe (5 months ago)

I'm still waiting for Fuji to make the X100s in black. If they do, and don't charge a higher price for it, then I'll consider buying one, depending on what else has been released by then. Meanwhile, the Sigma 35/1.4 on a D600 gives great technical results, but I sometimes wish it were smaller and lighter, hence the desire for the X100s. Another attraction of the X100s is the ability to sync flash at much higher shutter speeds. C'mon Fuji, don't keep me waiting!

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Ian SS
By Ian SS (5 months ago)

It is unlikely that Fuji will make a black one, my friend talked to Fuji people in Japan, they said the black X100 was expensive to make because it was a special paint, they said they won't make a black one for X100s. I think if enough people request it, they might change their mind.

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Tyler Monson
By Tyler Monson (5 months ago)

For what it's worth, when I began in photography in the fifties, all camera had chrome. It was the standard finish.
Then it was common to cover all the chrome with Scotch black photographic tape. I did that to my Contax IIa, then three Leica M-series cameras, Nikon, Pentax, and so forth. It made them less conspicuous to subjects and less valuable to thieves.

Now that most cameras are black, I still use the tape to cover non-essential markings (they aren't paying me to promote their name!).

Cheers,
Tyler Monson

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The City Lane
By The City Lane (5 months ago)

Clearly the X100S isn't for everybody. I never understand it when people insinuate that something isn't good because it doesn't suit their purposes. If there was one kind of camera that suited all purposes then every company would only release their version of this same camera.

The X100S offers excellent quality in a small package at a focal length which suits many people. The vast majority of my photography is either street photography or food photography, and the X100S is an excellent camera for these two uses.

I get great shots that convey exactly what I want and thoroughly enjoy using the camera. It was tough deciding whether parting with so many $$$ was worth it before I bought the camera, but in the 6 months that I've owned the X100S, I've not had a single moment of regret.

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

No camera suits everyone.

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MoltenP
By MoltenP (5 months ago)

(I accidently posted this as a reply to another user)

Here's a ride report done by a motorcyclist who used the x100s when riding through some of the 'stans (Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan). He has some beautiful images in his ride report.

Some of his photographs prompted forum members to buy x100s.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=923656

I'll have to admit, seeing photos from the camera generates some desire to own the camera, regardless if I could reproduce the other photogs pictures or not. For my purposes a Nikon P7800/Canon G/Fuji X20 would likely be a better fit.

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tinpusher
By tinpusher (5 months ago)

That's a great link..thanks

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Jules Tohpipi
By Jules Tohpipi (5 months ago)

Thank you so much for posting that wonderful link. I'm part way through reading it and completely enthralled.

I have the X100S and love it. Guess all I need now is a knackered old bike and crash courses in mechanics and Russian...

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Usernamefail
By Usernamefail (5 months ago)

That's a terrific ride report - what a read! Beautiful photos too. Thanks for posting!

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TitusXIII
By TitusXIII (5 months ago)

Beautiful photos of some really beautiful places.

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Kendunn
By Kendunn (5 months ago)

I sometimes think advrider has better photographers than dpreview. Don't get on there much since I went dirt only

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Keith
By Keith (5 months ago)

I do wish this came in black.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (5 months ago)

For Gods sake buy a can of black paint people. I mean really?! The colour is SO important?

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RFC1925
By RFC1925 (5 months ago)

Talk about an overreaction :-)

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D200_4me
By D200_4me (5 months ago)

Different strokes for different folks, as they say. It's a good thing there are plenty of other options for people that don't like the X100S. ;-) I'm afraid some people will never be happy with what they have or even what someone else decides to use. Life is short. Pick a camera and enjoy it.

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jioupahn
By jioupahn (5 months ago)

Just wanted to share my personal journey here - I own (still do) a Nikon D300s and an X100s.

I also have an assortment of Nikon lenses. Before I bought the X100s, I spent about 8 months using the D300s + 20mm F2.8 lens combo exclusively. Why? I wanted to see if I can "survive" with only a fixed lens camera.

I did and I bought an X100s in April 2013. I simply LOVE it!

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stevens37y
By stevens37y (5 months ago)

"survive"
You can make fire in the wild with the 20mm F2.8 but it's much harder with X100 :)

3 upvotes
nawknai
By nawknai (5 months ago)

I owned a D300 and my favourite lens was the Sigma 30 mm. Nikon didn't make anything that competed with this lens at the time, which is weird because I find it to be such a great combo. My love for this lens convinced me that I can "survive" with only a single lens.

I sold all my Nikon gear before the X100 was even released. I just had this feeling that the X100 was going to work out well, and it has. :)

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Heie2
By Heie2 (5 months ago)

I wonder if the only camera to ever feature an on-demand AA filter will be included in this superlative list...

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ekaton
By ekaton (5 months ago)

Wrong pick, by about one country mile. The X100 was quite something when it was released into the market place some 3 years ago, warts and shortcomings included. Since then, Fuji tried to surf on the X1 wave with follow on products with declining success, X10, X20, XPro1, XE1/2. The IQ of the x-trans sensor is not compelling, it only shines at high iso in comparison to mft and meanwhile mediocre standard aps-c sensors, albeit at the expense of details. Fuji has to go to the drawing board to gain customers back. Sensor, performance, build quality look ordinary these days, yet prices don`t.

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Beat Traveller
By Beat Traveller (5 months ago)

I'm sure Barney is really glad you were able to point out that he was completely wrong to enjoy taking photos with the camera.

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ekaton
By ekaton (5 months ago)

Always glad if I can be of help.......:)

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Collie Camp
By Collie Camp (5 months ago)

Strange - my X-trans is at least on par with my Canon 5DII in regard of details...and has better DR.

If that´s mediocre these days - wow, what camera you are using is better than?

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (5 months ago)

@Collie Camp. Really? Well maybe! According to DXO Canon Mark II had DR of Evs of 11.9 but then the little Fuji XF1 and a Canon G11 have 11.1. Original X100 has Evs 12.4. Interestingly the Fuji S3 Pro of 2004 has an EVs of 13.5!
I would believe this as the Dr of my 2003 Fuji S2 Pro exceeds anything I currently have (X100/50D/5D). I still look at the prints from that and go wow (as I do from the Sigma SD14 that replaced it). OK maybe not so much resolution and detail but the tonal qualities produced by a good CCD (or Foveon) sensor are superior to a CMOS. The CMOS gives us a better usability when you take into account low light.
Also let me tell you there is no substitute for cubes or in this case sensor size. No way my X100 out guns my Full Frame 5d Mk1. Although it has a good go at it at higher ISOs.

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Collie Camp
By Collie Camp (5 months ago)

@Dougbm_2

Yes - really!

And the Fuji XF-1 you´re talking about is a compact camera - we are talking about an APS-C size X-trans sensor here.

I had the X100 before and the X-trans is even better - resolution and DR. DR is better than my old trusted 5D Classic (which I still have and love) by a small margin and better than the 5DII DR, which has ugly shadow DR IMO - period.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (5 months ago)

@Collie Camp.
Yes I mentioned the XF-1 and G11 as an illustration that a small sensored camera can have good Dr too. I have used images from my old G11 for calendar shots.
Interesting you say the 5D MKII has ugly shadow noise as that is my complaint about Canons ASP-C sensors and why I use the 5DMK1 for real estate work (as I often need to lighten the shadows quite a bit).

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Collie Camp
By Collie Camp (5 months ago)

Yes, Canon and the shadows...I sold my 5DII and kept the 5D Classic...

But I heard the 6D now has the shadows in control - not as good as the Sony sensors but hey...

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Stitzer23
By Stitzer23 (5 months ago)

Strange intro to the article. Dpr says it doesnt have enough time to review everything that lands in it office, yet here they are revisiting gear that has been reviewed.

2 upvotes
Richt2000
By Richt2000 (5 months ago)

Its DPreview rather than DPReview these days...

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nawknai
By nawknai (5 months ago)

This type of article doesn't take long to write.

An in-depth review takes them months.

It's all relative.

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (4 months ago)

@ Stiltzer - I wrote this in a single morning. A saturday, I seem to recall.

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (5 months ago)

This is a nice looking and nicely engineered camera. Not really Fuji's fault that this is the ultimate hipster camera. But hipsterific it is, much to the detriment of the community.

flickr groups devoted to the X100 are filled with, in no particular order

1. selfies taken in the bathroom mirror
2. shots of expresso, latte, and other cafe beverages
3. moody black and white shots of uninteresting and random cityscape.
4. shots of the the X100 itself, in various expensive cases, taken with a camera that is not the X100

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mark finn
By mark finn (5 months ago)

That covers about 90% of flickr photos with every camera, albeit with slightly fewer cats. Try a 500px search on X100 - some impressive stuff there.

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Nikon2011
By Nikon2011 (5 months ago)

and everyone would say that the world is full of hipsters excluding himself.

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

I can remember when being "hip" was cool. Now you're labeled a hipster for shooting with a X100s? I guess its cool to be a hipster too!

2 upvotes
Tom_A
By Tom_A (5 months ago)

Why would it matter to you of a certain "style" of
people like this camera? This would mot influence my choice.

3 upvotes
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (5 months ago)

@mark finn

Yeah, what is that thing with the X100 and cats!?

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

So it's OK to have images of Nikon cameras and random COLOR cityscapes in your Flickr photostream, but when Fujifilm X100 users have similar they should be mocked as "hipsters"?

Lol. How does that work exactly? Are gear photos allowed for certain brands and not others? And when does a cityscape become interesting and cease to be "random"?

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Nikon2011
By Nikon2011 (5 months ago)

@marike when someone thinks to be special or have rights

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

I guess Nikonians top the list than.

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nawknai
By nawknai (5 months ago)

Do you know what a "hipster" is?

No? Okay then....

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TitusXIII
By TitusXIII (5 months ago)

There's no way I'd ever trade my X100 for the X100s.
While I would like to have the option of the split-screen manual focusing aid, I believe the X100 sensor to be superior to the X100s.

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eyedo
By eyedo (5 months ago)

I agree.I had the original x100 and later on the Black limited edition x100 which for some reason was better. I had the x100s earlier this year and didn't care for the IQ of the images. I'm a pro photog so I know how to work a camera. :-)
However I thought the macro on the x100s and video were better than the x100.

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MarcMedios
By MarcMedios (5 months ago)

All good (and an excellent quality) except for the lack of interchangeable lens. Who wants to take pictures with just the one lens that some anonymous designer chose for you in Japan?

4 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

Who wants to swap lenses all the time? For that I got DSLR. This is suppose to be simple and brilliant travel camera.

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Jaymike
By Jaymike (5 months ago)

I do. Been using one lens pretty much on all my DSLRs.

1 upvote
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (5 months ago)

A small zoom would answer both these requests, make interchangeable lenses unnecessary and still give the advantage of a dust-free sensor.

2 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

I do too. For general photography, using only one focal length has only the arbitrary limitations you've placed on it and quite literally the creative possibilities with a slightly wide normal lens are limitless.

And you get a very sharp lens with a bright f2 aperture. Besides, what could be more rewarding and more retro than zooming with your feet?

3 upvotes
solidgecko
By solidgecko (5 months ago)

Just look at the fact that smartphones are replacing digital compacts, and the fact that most all of smartphones have a fixed focal lens (with digital zoom).

Also worth noting is that I believe smartphone's fixed focal lens is great, it is silently teaching people about photography without them even realizing.

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gefrorenezeit
By gefrorenezeit (5 months ago)

If you don't like then don't buy it and get one where you can change lenses. Some people like it this way. How hard is it to understand?

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Tom_A
By Tom_A (5 months ago)

Yeah well, Henri Cartier Bresson and Ralph Gibson barely changed lenses. Much of his career Helmut Newton shot with a Rolleiflex. Nobody on the board here makes pics of that quality.
35 mm equivalent is fine for many walkaround applications. It is not for photographing wildlife.
As an aside, my own favourite camera is still the Rolleiflex.

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ljclark
By ljclark (5 months ago)

Anonymous designer in Japan? ROFL. One of the things you find out, if you take the time, is that the 35mm lens FOV works out pretty well in a wide variety of situations for many photographers. That isn't a designer's decision, it's decades of photographic practice. My default lens on an M6 was a C/V 35mm. On the M8 a 25mm, and on the M9 a 35mm. The X100/X100S just leveraged what many, many photographers figured out a long time ago.

To be truthful, if you can't take an X100/X100S (or any other camera with a single lens) out for a week-long trip and not end up with dozens of good photographs, you aint much of a photographer.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (5 months ago)

Oh ignorance is thy name MarcMedios?!

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minzaw
By minzaw (5 months ago)

Why is it so BIG??

Comment edited 36 seconds after posting
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cjhwang
By cjhwang (5 months ago)

Is that what she... nevermind...

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ljclark
By ljclark (5 months ago)

Someone had an X100 get dunked in seawater. Total loss so he took it apart and documented the results. That thing is tightly packed inside -- no wasted space. It is what it is.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (5 months ago)

It's not so big .,.. you are just too close to it!

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white shadow
By white shadow (5 months ago)

The X100s is a reasonably good camera for casual use and perhaps for travel. Some like the " Leica look alike" look because they couldn't afford the real McCoy Leica M. It is a fairly good camera to take casual portraits. That's about it.

A full frame DSLR is still the more versatile camera if one is serious about photography despite its heavier weight. It will deliver the goods expected of a professional photographer or for those who engaged them to shoot.

Similar to a Micro 4/3 camera, it will remain a camera for casual use or for collectors who like the look. For practical casual use, the Ricoh GR may be better. For sheer convenience, the Lumix LX7 is surprisingly very useful despite its much smaller sensor especially in low light.

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cjhwang
By cjhwang (5 months ago)

it's not the "Leica look-a-like" look, but it's the "rangefinder" look-a-like look. There used to be rangefinder cameras by Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Kodak, Zeiss, Leica and others back then.

The "compact" film cameras of the 70's-90's were a rangefinder Look-a-like with the offset viewfinder (not SLR) with autofocus instead of a mechanically linked rangefinder focusing system (which was manual focus only).

In that sense the Fuji x100s is closer to those old compact film cameras than rangefinders, but still they are much closer to rangefinders (not Leica) than SLRs.

Many people like the compactness of rangefinders, it's not a cheap Leica alternative. Most people probably haven't used a mechanically coupled rangefinder system, and I doubt many NEW modern user would like it.

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Kali108
By Kali108 (5 months ago)

White Shadow, by your definitions of "casual" and "professional"...many of the greatest photographers of all time, past and current, would "merely" be casual shooters. That SHOULD give you pause, to say the least. Stop judging the quality of photographers and photographs by how big their camera is. If you look around, you'll find quite a few FF 35mm digital and medium format digital shooters who LOVE cameras such as the x100s. The camera is capable of making iconic images, are we?

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

Casual, but with style ;)
And it's not about how bit - it's about how versatile and well-developed.

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Jeff Seltzer
By Jeff Seltzer (5 months ago)

Ummm...

1. I could afford a Leica, but I wanted an X-pro1 instead.

2. What is your definition of versatile? My 5DII wasn't nearly as versatile sitting in my camera bag vs. my X-pro1 which is always with me due to form factor and weight.

3. I hardly consider what I do "casual." There are many pros using the X-system.

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

ya gotta love the condescending remarks of some as to what others should be using, and thinking about what they're using.

A midget can be a terrific lover, or so I'm told.

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ljclark
By ljclark (5 months ago)

White Shadow is one of those guys who needs to check out all the other guys standing in the men's room. It must be great to live in a world where the size of something is more important than knowing how to do something with it.

I remember getting on a cross-country flight and realizing that a well-known male porn star was across the aisle (his T-shirt was a clue). He was a "Pro" but for all his full-frame-ness, there he was in a middle seat in coach along with the rest of us. Size didn't make a bit of difference in the real world.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (5 months ago)

FF does give better ultimate image quality and thats what I use professionally but most of the time I carry the X100 as it is light, convenient, enjoyable to use and gives nice results. Horses for courses anyway. The X100 renders nice and delicately and is actually good for portraits (don't know about the X100s).

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backayonder
By backayonder (5 months ago)

I can't remember the letters page (insert name of favourite photography magazine here) being full of vitriol and sniping over gear back in the old days of film. If I was working for DP I'd have a padded cell installed for relaxation.

It 's a camera you either own it or you don't.

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backayonder
By backayonder (5 months ago)

Note I did not say good old days of film

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (5 months ago)

I don't own one but I think it's great. And those angry letters were published only if the magazine editors had a suitable put down for a response.

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tallguy600
By tallguy600 (5 months ago)

That viewfinder on the X100s confused me. I'm sure EVF is great but the optical viewfinder I liked better, only it didn't allow me to nail focus consistently. You can adjust the size of the AF field as well and that didn't make it easier for me as well.
I think the X100s is a great camera, it was just not for me and that's fine as well I guess.

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cjhwang
By cjhwang (5 months ago)

The only thing for me is that I'm waiting for a 50mm version of the x100s (or x150 or whatever). I love 50mm for street photography.

MY favorite lens is the 50/F1.4 Zeiss. I like the Zeiss for its color/contrast for street photography. It comes out to VERY close to the colors/contrast I want right off the RAW/FILM. Thus, it is MY preferred glass.

Canon lenses USUALLY are softer and warmer in tone (Canon says so themselves, that they make their lenses warmer to get better skin tones), great for people/wedding photography. Nikon/Nikkor lenses have always been sharper and cooler in tone, which is great for Nature/Landscape right.

Of course, with post-processing (PP) you can do whatever you want in the digital age. But if I can save time from PP by using a Zeiss lense instead of others...

So, who cares what others' favorite is? If you know what you like, stick with it and agree to disagree instead of saying, this sucks and that sucks because it doesn't fit YOUR flavor.

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KariIceland
By KariIceland (5 months ago)

Ironic, my experience has been the exact opposite with canon, fuji & nikon.

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cjhwang
By cjhwang (5 months ago)

no idea what that means :)

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

I think he meant the skin tones, warmer canon vs cooler nikon. I've experienced it myself, but found that white balance plays a key role in skin tones on the Nikon bodies. Fuji seems to get skin tones especially good in the Astia film simulation.

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jaygeephoto
By jaygeephoto (5 months ago)

Rambling prattle. Or is that redundant?

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Anderson Miranda
By Anderson Miranda (5 months ago)

I dont think there will be a Fuji 50mm fixed lens... Better try X-E2 + 35mm 1.4 :-)

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rdscibilia
By rdscibilia (5 months ago)

This is better than the EOS M I bought for $299 how exactly?

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cjhwang
By cjhwang (5 months ago)

many things. But if you have to say that, then it means you are not in the demographics for the x100s

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rdscibilia
By rdscibilia (5 months ago)

Name three. Then i will counter.

The focusing system is probably superior, but anything else? The price differential is huge.

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

Hybrid OVF/EVF Eye level viewfinder, significantly better high ISO ability and overall better IQ, better AF system including PDAF for low-light shooting and robust AF tracking, build quality and...it looks better.

But for many, it's the lack of VF that makes the EOS M a bit less user-friendly.

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KariIceland
By KariIceland (5 months ago)

If you have to ask, then photography is not for you.

But here are a few things: dynamic range. low light performance, focus speed, features, basicly everything except the canon logo.

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KariIceland
By KariIceland (5 months ago)

Also think about WHY you got the Eos M for ONLY 299$.... the answer: Because Canon made a BIG mistake in development and NOBODY wants it, the X100S does not meet supply and demand, there is to much demand and not enough supply & for a good reason.

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Cailean Gallimore
By Cailean Gallimore (5 months ago)

EOS M - even at it's rock-bottom price it's poor value for money.

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

> EOS M - even at it's rock-bottom price it's poor value for money.

Let's not get carried away. The EOS M has excellent IQ, the same the T4i or 60D and it's an excellent video camera, offering much of the same capabilities of the Canon APS-C bodies.

If you look at it in terms of digital cameras and depreciation of value perhaps, but the same can be said for all cameras. But for someone who is creating works of value with an EOS M, it's impossible to say it's a poor value for the money.

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skytripper
By skytripper (5 months ago)

The Fuji X100S is NOT better than your EOS M I. The M I is the BEST camera in the world and you are a GENIUS for buying one!

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rdscibilia
By rdscibilia (5 months ago)

I will match my work against yours any time, and by the way I generally use an iPhone. :) You geek types are funny. Photography is not about specs. If you want to pay $1300 for that camera go right ahead. I don't think you know much about the EOS M. Maybe you read a review somewhere. Better image quality?

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rdscibilia
By rdscibilia (5 months ago)

I never said it was the best camera available. I do think that $1300 is an excessive price for what you're getting here. "Retro cool" does not justify a $1000 price differential.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (5 months ago)

The EOS M is perfectly fine and nowhere near as flawed as the X100 users claim. But the X100S is nicer in just about every way except that it costs three times as much and you can't change lenses. These minor points aside, if somebody offered to trade an X100S for my EOS M, I'd be happy to oblige.

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kewlguy
By kewlguy (5 months ago)

As a user of both, IQ-wise Fuji wins hands down - esp in term of noise and DR. Canon is seriously stuck with an old sensor. Even 70D doesn't bring much improvement - and 70D sensor is the one will be used with the M2...

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jl_smith
By jl_smith (5 months ago)

I gifted my in-laws an EOS M and the 22, great little combo and awesome at $299 (should have bought one for myself)!

That said:

Controls: Fuji's external controls are excellent to use. I actually liked the EOS-M's on-screen system, it was pretty well-done, but it can't match external controls.
IQ: Canon's IQ is pretty good, Fuji's is superior.
JPEGS: Fuji is the *only* company that produces JPEGs I actually enjoy out of a camera.
Viewfinder: There isn't one on the EOS M.

Since "Better" is subjective, you cannot disprove me :)

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vv50
By vv50 (5 months ago)

what you're paying for on the X100s:
- solid build quality
- optical viewfinder with hud
- tactile control
- no low pass filter, higher lp/mm
- 1/4000s flash sync speed
- hybrid AF that works
- 6 fps
- fantastic Manual Focus assist
- built-in ND filter
if you take videos and pictures on auto using the back lcd and don't need any of those special features then you're better off paying less with the EOS M with its buttons and touchscreen.

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

you can't argue with a guy who shoots primarily on his cell phone and calls everyone else geeks.

after all....one minute he's ordering a pizza with his camera and the next he's taking snaps of the pepperoni with instagram. Just try competing with that. C'mon!

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

is the EOS M a synonym for the iPhone?

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rdscibilia
By rdscibilia (5 months ago)

Well, calking, I own and have used many cameras. I use the best tool for the photography I want to do. For me, honestly, this is the iPhone. You would have to look at the photos I take to understand why. I have written extensively on a professional level about consumer technology, and I have found that there is an overemphasis on specs. I realize that technically the smart phone is not as good as a regular camera, but I also realize that there photos you simply cannot get with the traditional camera that you can get with an iPhone.

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rdscibilia
By rdscibilia (5 months ago)

A lot of palaver here about market value. Tell me how the Nikon DF is worth $3000. Tell me how the Leica is worth its price. What someone is willing to pay does not necessarily reflect the objective realities of quality or even utility. What it reflects is desire,

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hpy2bsal
By hpy2bsal (5 months ago)

I own a DSLR but I didn't want the bring a backpack of camera gear on a three-week trip through Europe. I bought the X100S specifically because of its compact size and f/2 lens.

I was very nervous whether the 23mm fixed lens would work under all shooting circumstances but there wasn't a single time I wished I had brought a different camera. Whether I was shooting the interior of Notre Dame at night, the expanse of the Swiss Alps, the UCI Road World Championships along the streets of Florence during a torrential thunderstorm, or one of my meals at dinner, my X was the perfect camera. I probably could have sold three X's to fellow tour members once they saw the quality of my images. Attached to the Black Rapid SnapR 35 Bag and Strap and slung diagonally across my chest, my X was super lightweight and easily accessible. Even when handheld, I barely noticed the weight of the camera.

I'm already planning another trip to Europe next year and my X will be the only camera I'm bringing.

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biggles266
By biggles266 (5 months ago)

Wow, then I suggest you don't have much imagination or creativity if you didn't see the thousands of shots which would have been great to take if only you had had the ability to change to a different focal length lens. So many great shots that 35mm won't get you.

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Tom_A
By Tom_A (5 months ago)

Yeah well, Henri Cartier Bresson and Ralph Gibson barely changed lenses. Much of his career Helmut Newton shot with a Rolleiflex. Nobody on the board here makes pics of that quality.
35 mmequivalent is fine for many walkaround applications. It is not for photographing wildlife.

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biggles266
By biggles266 (5 months ago)

I'm sure he got some good street and general purpose photography at 35mm, which is mostly what HCB did with that focal length, right? There's more to travel photography than just street though. Anyway, if the original poster is happy with just one focal length, fine with me. I can't imagine doing it though. I need more focal lengths than that just to photograph my front yard.

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hpy2bsal
By hpy2bsal (5 months ago)

Wow, biggles, I'm honestly sorry that you chose to insult me without knowing anything about me or the quality of my photography from Europe or elsewhere using my X. I'm still shocked that you were able to figure out all the great shots I missed from where you were sitting while I was traveling through Europe. You're on a public forum; please learn to be kind.

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gefrorenezeit
By gefrorenezeit (5 months ago)

Wow biggles, what a statement.... Hope you don't confuse your need of lenses whith creativity. ;)

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

Just how many describe their joy with this camera. It's perfect for what it is for those who just enjoy shooting.

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

@ biggles --
actually, there's a distinction to be made between "travel photography" and taking photos on vacation. It doesn't sound to me as if hpy2 here went on vacation pretending to be on assignment for Conde Naste -- it was a vacation and trying to ensure gallery-quality shots of everything he photographed would have meant it was more of a photo expedition than vacation.

I took a 2-week vacation to Vancouver BC this past summer, and packed my D600 with 4 primes, my XE-2 with 18-55 zoom and a Sony RX100.

I took about 10 frames with the Nikon FF, 25 with the Fuji, and more than 500 with the little Sony, as well as a slew of video. The bigger issue is that I was never on a photo hunt for prize-winning shots, though I got more than a few with that little RX. I was on VACATION and enjoyed it immensely.

Likewise, I'm sure hby2 here got plenty of keepers from the X100s but more importantly he realized he didn't need pro gear to enjoy photography. Lesson in this for all.

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ljclark
By ljclark (5 months ago)

Actually, Biggles266, I think we have identified the party lacking "imagination or creativity". A good photographer could, if he or she chose to, launch a travel assignment with a single camera and a single lens -- and come back with 8 to 14 compelling, publication-worthy photographs that told the story. I'm not saying that is the best premise for an assignment, but a good photographer could do it.

No matter what you are carrying, you pass up thousands of compelling images every day. If you shot them all, no matter what camera you were carrying, your hands would be flying like a wind-up drummer boy. If anything, the single lens experiment, which some have had to do for class assignments way back when, is a true test of imagination and creativity.

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Nikon2011
By Nikon2011 (5 months ago)

grandma used to say "35mm face to face with a lion aint a good idea"

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biggles266
By biggles266 (5 months ago)

@hpy2bsal - Fair enough, it wasn't actually my intention to insult you. Be blunt yes, but not mean. But in writing on a forum things often sound worse than they were intended, I realise that. If you are happy shooting at one focal length that is fine. Personally, I am not (even when I had a P&S). The statement you made that the lens the X100 worked in all shooting circumstances was the most astounding to me. A travel trip to me has to be able to include macro and telephoto as well as standard lenses. That's just because I like to shoot a variety of images, whether they be close up or something I spot in the distance. It would be frustrating to me to spot something that would make a good photo and not be able to take it, and I still maintain that there are plenty of scenarios a 35mm simply can't capture. Anyway, good that you were happy with the mementos you captured from your trip, one lens is enough to get good memories as well as some real stunning photographs, that's for sure.

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biggles266
By biggles266 (5 months ago)

@calking - I never said he couldn't get great quality photos, just that there would be much he couldn't capture. I think your example of mostly using the RX100 says more about keeping your kit light, simple and fun (which is a good idea) than it does about the original point. You still had a range of focal lengths with you, plus I assume a macro mode. I could take a vacation with an RX100. I couldn't take one with a single focal length lens, I would be disappointed and feel limited.

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biggles266
By biggles266 (5 months ago)

@ljclark - I know the idea that a single focal length inspires creativity, I enjoy primes myself. Perhaps imagination and creativity weren't the best words to use. I'm not sure what are, the main point I was trying to get across was simply that there are so many interesting shots which I would love to capture travelling through Europe, and which need a range of focal lengths to do so. For me I would feel disappointed being on an exotic holiday and missing those compelling shots. I don't feel that I am passing up thousands of compelling images every day around home when I am not on vacation.

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biggles266
By biggles266 (5 months ago)

Anyway, I hope this clarification settles things. Didn't intend to sound inflammatory, just express a different view to the original poster, and I was genuinely astounded that someone would find a single focal length enough, hence my language I guess.

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hpy2bsal
By hpy2bsal (5 months ago)

Just to clarify...I'm a woman! :)

Biggles, thank you for your most recent comments. I hope some day that you'll take a closer look at this little camera. Please understand that I would NEVER contemplate taking this camera on a safari...I wouldn't even take it to a zoo! However, this camera performed in every situation that I tested it on; it came through with flying colors because I wasn't photographing insects or an eagle's nest. I was also thrilled when I had a ton of clarity in a severely cropped image. I actually thought I would regret not having a zoom lens but I never did. And, while I definitely know my way around a DSLR camera and I regularly shoot with multiple lenses, my using a fixed lens on this trip made me a better photographer while saving my back as well. Unless I'm being paid to go on a photographic assignment...I wish!...I would never bring a camera bag with multiple lenses on a trip again. I came home with MANY professional quality images and I'm thrilled!

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biggles266
By biggles266 (5 months ago)

Sorry for the gender assumption. I'm glad you got images you are happy with. The Fuji X100S is one of the prettiest looking cameras I have seen, I really like its looks. I'm very conscious of weight too, that is why I am in the process of selling my DSLR equipment to move to micro four thirds. I want to save my back as well, but also for an extra few hundred grams of weight to carry, still be able to switch lenses when I need to. Some of those m43 lenses only weigh 100g. One small bag with 3-4 lenses is my aim, equally suitable for trips or for close to home.

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jaygeephoto
By jaygeephoto (5 months ago)

Yes. Isn't it a pain to be a real photographer again and have the gumption (polite word used here) to get close and involved with your subjects? Up close and personal with what your photographing?! Next thing you know you'll be asking me to have a telephone conversation with someone. Really!

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John Pennington
By John Pennington (5 months ago)

I may be wrong, but I thought the S still has the aperture dance problem of the original X100, which makes usage somewhat of a a pain.

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Len_Gee
By Len_Gee (5 months ago)

What is the aperture dance?

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (5 months ago)

Da dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqd0nB6_soM

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

This kind of Fujifilm X100s infatuation has been finding its way into a few DPR articles of late, most notably the Nikon Df Preview and the whole "Retro Done Silly" fiasco.

I've enjoyed using both the X100 and X-E1 but I don't know too many photographers who would purposely choose an X100 over a proper FF DSLR, retro or not, for any other reason than convenience.

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bcalkins
By bcalkins (5 months ago)

"Proper"? If the worst you can say about a camera (the X100) is that you enjoyed using it and it was convenient to use, I'm not sure why you would dismiss it...

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Len_Gee
By Len_Gee (5 months ago)

Why do photogs get hung up on the FF thing?

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

But I'm not dismissing the Fuji, my latest camera acquisition is an X-E1. But I don't agree at all that the X system is "retro done right" or that the Nikon Df is silly, as was mentioned in the Df Preview.

In a camera preview, that kind of hyperbole doesn't inform users because it carries with it certain assumptions about photographer's needs, i.e. camera size vs performance, convenience vs versatility, things that might be priorities for the preview author but are not necessarily priorities for Nikon DSLR or DSLR users in general.

With a pre-production camera without any ability to shoot images it's probably better to stick to specs and features and let readers decide if those things meets their needs.

I have zero issues with the Fujifilm X cameras, I'm a big fan.

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Revenant
By Revenant (5 months ago)

For many people, convenience is a major consideration when choosing a camera. How many are willing to carry a FF DSLR with them everywhere they go?

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

> How many are willing to carry a FF DSLR with them everywhere they go?

How many readers of the X100s preview want to read about how great the D800 is, how its AF performs? Just like how many readers of a FF DSLR preview are interested in how the X100s EVF benefits manual focus?

For many this website has become a bit too focused on mirrorless as a panacea to the point that even specific FF DSLR Previews often feature these kinds of crowbarred mirrorless comparisons related to size and convenience. Every DSLR users is fully aware of their size/weight and view it as a benefit that improves handling and ergonomics, not something they need constant reminders of previews and reviews.

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

And we've got the winner.
Well said marike.

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

Unless I'm mistaken, this particular thread was about Barney's choice of the X100s as a great all-purpose camera, not some heavy-handed exultation of mirrorless versus FF. Next year we could see the Sony A7 as the choice for a DPR staffer's pick.

Chill pill time. I love my D600, my XE-1, my RX100. It's just equipment. I don't have banana arms and have no qualms slingin my FF around in the appropriate setting. My XE-1 is perfect for high IQ in a more portable format, and when I just want to have a decent cam with me and not worry about how I'm gonna transport it the Sony is perfect.

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Ben Lazar
By Ben Lazar (5 months ago)

I am a pro shooter who uses a Nikon D800 and D600 for my pro work. I love using the X100s for a lot of reasons besides convenience. I love the IQ; it has a different feel to me than my Nikons which isn't better or worse--just different, which I appreciate. For walking around Manhattan doing street shooting, there ain't nothin' better, in my opinion. And it's just a hell of a lot of fun to use. On my website, most of the shots are taken with my Nikons, but there are more than a few that came from my X100s.

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JakeB
By JakeB (5 months ago)

Well said, Ben.

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tallguy600
By tallguy600 (5 months ago)

Owned it and returned it.
While I really liked the camera I also own a full frame DSLR and a Sony RX100 for travelling, the Fuji is just too a bit large to carry on a trip (for me at least), and a bit limited with a fix 35mm lens, that's why the Sony is with me all the time and the DSLR for special portrait work is at home most of the time. Price wise the Fuji is a bit on the expensive side. Lens cap is not good and no charger included is a bit weird for $1,299

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Lexxie
By Lexxie (5 months ago)

Hi there, the beginning of a good story, thanks, looking forward to the next chapter... If you are going to stay with the X100S you must try the comfort of the Thumbs-Up thumb rest: much comfort, and holding without the accidental turning of the exposure compensation knob.

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Jogger
By Jogger (5 months ago)

Fuji is rumoured to be following Sony and releasing both a fixed lens FF camera (RX1/R competitor) and an FF ILC and lenses based on their existing mount. It will be interesting if they are able to extrans those sensors.

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futurewah
By futurewah (5 months ago)

Rumoured by who? I have seen nothing credible. Also, it looks like Sony thought further ahead with their E-mount, making the throat big enough for FF. Measuring the throat on X-mount, it looks like Fuji didn't give themselves the room for FF. If Fuji do go FF, I fear it will be with a new mount.

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Len_Gee
By Len_Gee (5 months ago)

It's just B.S.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (5 months ago)

Current Fuji quality is so good, why would somebody pay more for a larger, heavier camera when larger, heavier cameras are already available? The whole point of the X100, right down to the fixed lens is the smallest possible package for the level of quality.

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Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (5 months ago)

Come on now Abrasive....if Fuji released a full frame version of the X100, or even better an XPro1...it would sell like hotcakes. Why do you think the Sony A7 was such a big deal.....(hint, it's the full frame sensor).

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

Hit - cheap body.

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gefrorenezeit
By gefrorenezeit (5 months ago)

How big of a deal the A7 is going to be isn't deceided yet i guess. ;)

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

@ clint:
by your reasoning, the Nikon DF should also sell like hotcakes. Oh wait -- it costs almost $3 grand.

Fact is, no one knows for sure whether Fuji will jump into FF or not. They don't NEED to, but seeing as how everyone is just copying each other now it's not inconceivable at some point either.

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David Ziff
By David Ziff (5 months ago)

I had opportunity to use (borrow, not own) the original X100 and loved the look and feel of the camera. However objectively it only scores 73 on the DXO Mark sensor tests. That's the same as my Nikon D90 from three years ago. The X100 low light ISO score is 1001 whereas the 5D Mark III is up around 2390 and the D800 around 2923. I'm not suggesting science should diminish anyone's love for a camera as that's a personal thing. The camera I'm fondest of was the old 2.8 medium format Rolleiflex twin-lens reflex. Objective sensor ratings might only be one factor in a person's photographic preference. May I ask my fellow readers here if sensor ratings -- whether from Popular Photography or DXO Mark or ? -- have a bearing in evaluating your next camera purchase

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Treeshade
By Treeshade (5 months ago)

If you are comparing choosing between X100S and D800, why not buy both? Different tools for different situations. We don't compare built-in flash with studio lighting.

And sensor rating -- yes we care about that, but only in comparison with other camera of the same class/size/price range. Maybe GR, maybe Coolpix A, but surely not D800 or 5D Mark III.

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SnapHappy32
By SnapHappy32 (5 months ago)

I have an X100. It's not quite there in terms of pure resolution but there is a very distinct look about the files, which lends itself perfectly to event shooting. Especially wide open at 2.0.
I shoot for personal uses - PM if you'd like an example.

I really never use DxO mark. I'm a strong believer of the fact that any modern camera is more than up to most tasks.

DxO might work for pure resolution seekers. I'm not one of them. I have 2x 16mp cameras, one more on the way. All three with different sensor formats. More than enough, as most pics are posted on websites.

And I simply do not understand why the d800 trumphs eg a Leica S. Doesn't correspond to what I actually see.

Trust me - you would love the X100 even with that score.

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Cane
By Cane (5 months ago)

Does Car and Driver magazine deduct points off it's Dodge minivan review because it's corner handling was sub par to a Ferrari Enzo?

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (5 months ago)

@ Cane: Yes, they do. All reviewers tend to use comparative associations with products above and below the subject of their review. I have seen reviews of family cars that make direct reference to performance against what could be called "super cars".

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (5 months ago)

I thought the images were outstanding. And now you tell me it only gets a 73 from DxO. Hey, the numbers don't lie. And here I was, thinking the images looked great.

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David Ziff
By David Ziff (5 months ago)

Thank you for your responses: The telling point of most of your replies was quite perceptive: the tendency of a reviewer to compare one class of cameras or products to another class, higher or lower. Spot on. I've seen a similar phenomenon in book and movie reviews as well.

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Collie Camp
By Collie Camp (5 months ago)

Either you love or you hate these Fujis, it seems.

I used the X100, X-E1 and now the X-Pro1 and I love them.

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doctorbza
By doctorbza (5 months ago)

I'm with you 100%. When it comes down to it I love these cameras, flaws and all. The files are just wonderful to work with. I'm really looking forward to the maturation of the technology; when these are as responsive in terrible conditions as my DSLR is I will finally be able to unload that stuff. Right now the Fuji's aren't responsive enough for paid event work, IMO, so the DSLRs stay. But Fuji is winning me over with these cameras. Maybe not everybody's cup of tea, but I think they're very nice.

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Collie Camp
By Collie Camp (5 months ago)

so true. i´m waiting for the speed too - can´t be so hard to make them as fast as a good dslr.

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

They're just awesome for what they are. I love my XE-1 and all of the XF lenses. Really enjoyable to use -- not as "sterile" an experience as a DSLR is IMO (tho I love my D600 for what it can do).

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foto guy
By foto guy (5 months ago)

Is it December 31 already?

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (5 months ago)

As reviewers we all have our favorites and its not always the best performing cameras- often quite not. One of my personal favorites is the old Panasonic LC1 (or Leica Digilux 2) for sheer pleasure/casual photography.

Nice short write up Barney, I wanted you to go on a bit more! :) I appreciate your more and more candid and affable writing. :)

Carl

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Cailean Gallimore
By Cailean Gallimore (5 months ago)

It's amusing that everyone who has an X100, or X100S, are saying how much they like the camera, and all the people who are saying they dislike the camera don't have one. Jealousy, maybe... Lol.

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (5 months ago)

It would be kind of unusual for people to choose to use a camera they don't like just to justify comments about its shortcomings ;-)

I would think that most people here take a good look at cameras before they spend money on them.

Just in case you are interested, I have this camera from a previous assignment but don't use it now, as it is not a personal favourite. That doesn't mean it's a bad camera. Nor does it mean I'm jealous.

I think jealousy is usually reserved for higher price levels anyway... most people who really want this one should be able to get it. If they are as happy as the reviewer with it, that's all they need.

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Cane
By Cane (5 months ago)

You may need to revisit the definition of jealousy, because I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Summi Luchs
By Summi Luchs (5 months ago)

Too much simplification. There is at least a third group who like the X100S but I do not own it. At least I belong to this group. The camera is nicely built and styled, has good optics and a good sensor. OTOH I simply have no (read: too limited) use for it. Although 35mm was and is a focal length I like, about 40% of my photos are taken around 35mm. But then, there are 60% of my shots better made with significantly longer or shorter lenses. So for me, interchangeable lenses are a must.

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Digital Daydream
By Digital Daydream (5 months ago)

Would you honestly expect people who dislike a camera to own it? I'm not a big fan of Canon's cameras. Not surprisingly, I don't own any either (any more).

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gefrorenezeit
By gefrorenezeit (5 months ago)

I do not like canon too much yet using a 1DX alongside a Xpro. ;) I did like some of the canon glas in case you wonder.

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calking
By calking (5 months ago)

Lets not forget that even current Fuji camera owners may not own the X100s, but that doesn't mean anything. I rented the X100s for 2 weeks and shot it as much as I could, and it was fine. Did the same with the X20. Both were very, very good. But nothing that made me want to run out and buy one when I could buy the new 23mm f/1.4 prime for my XE-1 and save hundreds over the cost of the X100s. Likewise, I have and adore my Sony RX100 and didn't see anything mind-blowing about the X20 that would convince me I needed it either.

Quite honestly, if I HAD to buy another camera right now it would have to be a "special purpose" model, like the Nikon AW1 for shooting in really inclement weather. Still, a plastic cover on any of my current cameras would be cheaper.....

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Cailean Gallimore
By Cailean Gallimore (5 months ago)

The X100s is a joy to use and produces excellent images. Having said that, I wouldn't want it as my ONLY camera, because of the fixed focal length. I have other cameras to provide the other FLs I might need, so it's not a problem for me. The X100s is a brilliant idea, beautifully realised.

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whtchocla7e
By whtchocla7e (5 months ago)

35mm is good for 95% of my photography. The other 5% I can live without;

I can live without expensive gear sitting unused on the shelf just because I thought I may need it for that 5%. Got to trim down the fat.

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Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (5 months ago)

I totally agree about excessive gear....I recently sold a 100mm macro (awesome lens) because I never used it, and a couple of Leica lenses that I was holding on to 'just in case' I ever bought another Leica rangefinder.

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iAPX
By iAPX (5 months ago)

I have a Fuji X100s, and love it too. I just came back from New orleans, and I thought that a tele-lens would be great for the bayou or other street pictures, but nonetheless I took my X100s, and even if I could not do anything I wanted to, due to the fixed lens, I am really satisfied with the picture I took.

At the end of the day that's all that matter: are you satisfied with the pictures you took?

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Ian SS
By Ian SS (5 months ago)

Some people may not agree but carrying my black X100 has certain photographic satisfaction, it's fun taking snaps with it. I use Canon, Nikon DSLR and Hasselblad, carrying these cameras felt like doing jobs rather than having fun enjoying walking around town talking pictures, it is something that will sink in slowly but once you get the feel, it is wonderful!

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

It's all about approach. I love shooting with X100 as much as I do with a DSLR. Heck: I would argue that shooting with DSLR is actually more fun and satisfying (TTL OVF) - but never the less X100 is an outstanding camera that gives lots of pleasure and does what it's suppose to do in an excellent way.

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Ian SS
By Ian SS (5 months ago)

Perhaps I do jobs with my DSLR but X100 is a snap camera, that's why when I pickup a DSLR, I change into job mode unless I pickup a fun lens like the Canon 8-15mm, it becomes fun!

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moimoi
By moimoi (5 months ago)

A crazy expensive camera with the horrid X-trans sensor (raw conversion still produces artifacts), no thanks...

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Cailean Gallimore
By Cailean Gallimore (5 months ago)

We can safely assume that moimoi has never used an X100s.

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moimoi
By moimoi (5 months ago)

Lol, I have used the X100 long enough that it was sent back right where it came from.

Talking about the X100s, there are so many Fuji jpg shooters (dpreview: "Excellent JPEG image quality - little need to shoot Raw except to correct WB" which is a dumb statement to say) because the raw files are not artifact free.

Keep shooting jpg...

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Iskender
By Iskender (5 months ago)

>Keep shooting jpg...

I will!

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Collie Camp
By Collie Camp (5 months ago)

I have no problems with the x-trans RAWs and use them all the time:

Apple Aperture, Capture One and Lightroom 5 - all good.

Regarding the price: the lens alone is worth the money, but you get a great sensor and a hybrid finder for free ;)

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

Problem with Lightroom is that it actually gives results that are sub-pair to Bayer sensors.

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Collie Camp
By Collie Camp (5 months ago)

Well, Lightroom may be the worst of the bunch, but it´s not as bad as everyone says nowadays. Maybe they did some more tweaking.

Aperture, Capture One and PhotoNinja are a little bit better.

My RAWs are at least as sharp as my 5D Raws.

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Cailean Gallimore
By Cailean Gallimore (5 months ago)

moimoi said:"Lol, I have used the X100 long enough that it was sent back right where it came from."

So you bought a camera that you hadn't tried, and found that you didn't like it. Blame the camera? No - blame yourself. Lol.

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kitsap2
By kitsap2 (5 months ago)

"A crazy expensive camera with the horrid X-trans sensor (raw conversion still produces artifacts), no thanks..."

Oh the horror, the horror!!!

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Segaman
By Segaman (5 months ago)

@moimoi
How come it won prizes, by reputed photo websites, people that knows gear, if it ain't your cup of tea, well too bad, lots of people likes it and its a very nice camera, portable and makes you shoot, that is the important thing.

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mark finn
By mark finn (5 months ago)

Since I'm still on the original X100 I guess I would have to call it my gear of the last two years. While the 35mm was initially limiting, I soon began to see in 35mm frames, and once freed from the endless decisions about zooming I was able to concentrate on getting the elements right within that frame. The result has been more published photos in two years than my previous seven with Canon and a range of L zooms.

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Northgrove
By Northgrove (5 months ago)

Yes, that "X100 effect" is nice. I'm coming from a Nikon D90 with a 18-200 mm lens, 35/1.8, 50/1.8 primes, and a few others. Two months ago, I did a review of my past year's statistics in my Lightroom library, checking for what I shoot with the most. The statistics were pretty stunning: 85% shot with my X100. The few others were mostly where I needed tele range.

So I'm thinking of selling all my Nikon gear, and replace it with a m4/3 system with a telezoom and not that much else, maybe a 50mm equivalent prime (Hello there, Leica Summilux 25/1.4) so that I can alternate. I can miss the 50mm equivalent range at times when I'm out with only my X100.

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Plastek
By Plastek (5 months ago)

lol, so you buy mirrorless that's horrific to use with tele lenses to replace a DSLR that you use mainly for long focal lengths?
Talk about lack of sense.

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thomas2279f
By thomas2279f (5 months ago)

Good write up- how come you haven't review excellent Nikon D4 or the excellent Canon 1d MK X|

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (5 months ago)

Probably due to a little over attention to one favourite camera.

The Fuji is a nice camera, even if it looks awful in that brown leather diaper. DPR should remember that others will have their favourites too.

Judging by comments already, some people are seeing this as some kind of camera of the year award, instead of a bit of indulgence on behalf of a DPR writer.

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M Lammerse
By M Lammerse (5 months ago)

@ DaveE1

Yes, with such a title as "Gear of the Year" comments about that brown leather diaper fit in perfectly.

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (5 months ago)

@M Lammerse: Thank you.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (5 months ago)

thomas....

I have a theory about that.

Odds are the potential buyers for Nikon D4 and Canon 1DX cameras know more about what they need and what they want to buy than any internet website could possibly tell them.

When people spend $6,000 for a camera, we can assume they mostly aren't amateur hobbyists who wait for a review to be published to make a buying decision.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (5 months ago)

Dave....

I suppose the "Part 1" means there will be several more parts to this series about the year's best cameras. And then perhaps after the series ends, there will be a voter poll like the one Dpreview had last year.

In any case, it is nice to see the reviewers tell us about their own personal favorites.

Maybe I'm nuts, but I like the brown leather diaper on the X100s. I think it looks good!

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (5 months ago)

Marty,

Good points all round. Agreed.

We'll agree to disagree on the brown leather on a black camera body. It's tweed jacket over a football top to my eyes. No offense if anyone reading this is decked out like that. :-D

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Petka
By Petka (5 months ago)

"Odds are the potential buyers for Nikon D4 and Canon 1DX cameras know more about what they need etc etc..."

Most buyers of D4 and 1DX are professionals who quite routinely, every a few years, replace their worn out gear with the newest offerings of their chosen brand (replacing the perfectly good lenses also would be too expensive). Thank God these new DSLR bodies always are somewhat better or clearly better than what they are replacing. There is not much need to market new pro cameras to pros, they will buy them when they need them. Marketing is targeted more to the wealthy amateurs, who want to have the "best", no matter what.

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Photofrank Toronto
By Photofrank Toronto (3 months ago)

I think Treeshade has made the most sensible comment. If you have the money of course. Also, there are hybrid combos like I use Sony NEX 6 with an A Mount AF Sony adapter. Also own a speed booster adapter with a Leica R mount

Sony 16-50 2.8 lens, Sigma 70-200 2.8 lens, and my low light manual focus lens is the Leica 50mm. The speed booster adapter puts it at 1.4

My point being that adapter combos up the quality and these tests on here can not be taken totally into account.

Never mind what some pros say about adapters, They work great. You just have to get used to using them.

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