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Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 updated with test scene samples

By dpreview staff on Nov 1, 2013 at 18:03 GMT

We've updated our first impressions review of the Panasonic Lumix DMC-GM1 with our studio test scene showing image quality for both JPEG and Raw files. The new scene also offers downloadable Raw samples of both daylight and low light scenes. As always, you can compare the GM1 to a number of other cameras.

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Total comments: 34
Hobbit13
By Hobbit13 (5 months ago)

I think in most comments below, people are raving about the excellent performance of the Leica 45mm lens. But I don't think the quite bulky 45mm Leica is a logical companion for the petite GM1. A test scene shot with the 12-32mm F3.5-5.6 kit lens would be much more interesting.

It's sure nice that the sensor in the GM1 performs well, but that is to be expected, because it's the latest iteration of the m4/3s. It's not that the sensor will be worse, because it's placed inside a tiny body. It either fits, or it doesn't. The size of the camera (on the outside) doesn't have much influence on the image quality.

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oluv
By oluv (5 months ago)

the samples were shot with the m.zuiko 45/1.8 which is not that large and looks quite cute on the GM1 too.
besides the mentioned leica cannot compete sharpnesswise against the cheap m.zuiko.

ps. nevertheless i would also be interested in additional samples with the 12-32 lens

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ageha
By ageha (5 months ago)

The Leica isn't that sharp.

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australopithecus
By australopithecus (5 months ago)

Agreed ! Many of us are interested in the 12-32. It's compact and covers an extremely useful range of focal lengths.

It would have been much more to the point to have tested the camera with its kit lens. In fact it would have been the logical thing to do.

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qartlo91
By qartlo91 (5 months ago)

if you want to see the 12-32mm lens performance you can look at the samples gallery. what i have seen, 12-32mm seems quite a good lens for landscape photography.

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (5 months ago)

If suddenly I would have 1100 euros from air, I would pull the trigger on gray GX-7 & 20mm combo.

I start to thinking that its better than E-P5 (besides; jelly effect stays alive on panasonics :( ) and also its 300 euros more affordable than EVF-17mm-E-P5 combo....

Long live Panasonic !

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Kjartan Haugen
By Kjartan Haugen (5 months ago)

GM1 really produce some nice photoquality and details, even better than E-M1 at ISO 100/125

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Jo_To
By Jo_To (5 months ago)

Hello DP-review

It would be nice if the RAW - Day-Light shots from the EM-1 from ISO100 to ISO400 can be reshot. They are clearly out of focus. From ISO800 the shots are sharp. Look feathers at upper right corner, or blue colourtube in upper left.

And the RAW Low-Light shot ISO12800 of the EM-5 is defect. The lower part of the picture is missing.

Also it would be nice if the Pentax K5IIs and K3 is allowed to join game. They are, imho, the closest competitors to the GM1/GX7 and EM-1.

Often only 2 choices in the compare screen are selectable. It would also be nice if the normal shown 4 choices are selectable.

(p.s. The new Low-Light scene helps a lot, very good idea)

Thanks
Jörg

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

Of the crop sensor camera, the "closet competitor", in fact the class leader is the D7100. The K-3 should be similar. The Fujifilm X cameras are most probably the low-light kings producing absolutely beautiful low-noise files.

There is very little difference between the GX7, GM-1, EM-5, and EM-1 except the Olympus EM cameras probably have a slight edge in DR. All nice cameras for sure but none of them equal the 24 mp Nikon / Pentax APS-C cameras for IQ.

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Jo_To
By Jo_To (5 months ago)

Hi Mark,

yes, you are right. I should have been more precise, I ment the high ISO performance of the EM1, GX7, 7100 and the K5/3(?), they are really close together.

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mrmiguel
By mrmiguel (5 months ago)

Truly incredible. I saw less chromatic aberration than the em5 and kept up nicely with the em1/ep5 at higher ISOs. This along with the 15mm 1.7 could be one fun little camera.

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John McCormack
By John McCormack (5 months ago)

Thanks for putting up the GM1 comparison so quickly.

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Digitall
By Digitall (5 months ago)

Nice little great camera.

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katy C.
By katy C. (5 months ago)

Tried to compare with the Canon M but could not find it in the drop down menu. Why?

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HelloToe
By HelloToe (5 months ago)

Probably because they haven't shot the new test scene with it. And the reason for THAT is probably that nobody wants the EOS M. ;)

(Why do you think they cut its price in half just a few months after launch? Flop-O-Rama!)

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

Flop-O-Rama?

To put it in perspective, on B&H's website the Canon EOS M has whopping 192 customer reviews. Even the most popular Olympus model, the EM5 has only 132 customer reviews and the EPL5, 33 reviews.

You may think the EOS M is a flop, but the truth is it likely sold many more units EPL5 and possibly more than even the EM5. For Canon's first MILC, that's all they needed.

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HelloToe
By HelloToe (5 months ago)

Sure, everybody wants one when it's on fire sale clearance! Too bad nobody wanted one at full price, huh? ;)

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

Lots of camera are priced too high initially. But there are a heck of a lot of Canon users so even a modest success in the Canon world can end up selling many more total units than some other more niche camera makers.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (5 months ago)

You can compare GM1 with 70D instead. IQ of Canon M would be very very similar to the IQ of 70D.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (5 months ago)

Looks like the Canon 70D lags behind even the tiny GM1 in high ISO image quality.

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Elaka Farmor
By Elaka Farmor (5 months ago)

LOLable but true.....

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HelloToe
By HelloToe (5 months ago)

Look on the bright side, Canon, your big $1200 camera does at least manage to beat the Nikon 1! ;)

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SDPharm
By SDPharm (5 months ago)

To play devil's advocate, I don't think the Canon guys are just a bunch of clueless engineers sitting around drinking sake all day. My guess is that either the company decided the current IQ is good enough, or they think that the general public just does not care enough like the folks here do.

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neo_nights
By neo_nights (5 months ago)

What's most impressive is that the RX100 II is almost as good as the Canon (not even 1 stop behind, IMHO)!

Yeah, Canon does have a lot of catching up to do regarding image quality...

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HelloToe
By HelloToe (5 months ago)

SDPharm: I'd say the more likely explanation is that Canon has been sacrificing R&D to prop up their sagging profits. (Canon's stock price is down by about a third over the last 18 months, btw.)

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marike6
By marike6 (5 months ago)

According to DxOMark, it does not.

Low-Light ISO (Sports) score

70D 926 ISO

EM-1 757 ISO

GX7 718 ISO

If the GM-1 uses the same sensor as the GX7 it should score similarly. Keep in mind the 70D is a 20 mp camera so pixel level noise (i.e. at 1:1 or 100%) doesn't tell the whole story.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (5 months ago)

or maybe you guys are just blind and clueless.

well look at the numbers from camera manufacturer.
canon is doing very well compared.

http://petapixel.com/2013/02/07/nikon-stock-plummets-19-biggest-drop-since-1985/

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (5 months ago)

Thank you for making it so we can see 4 cameras at once in the comparometer.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (5 months ago)

@ mpgxsvcd - that capability is always available (from the 'new studio scene comparison tool' link on the 'Reviews' drop down on every page).

The reason we're comparing just two cameras within review pages is because: 1) Many people won't be using monitors that allow them to see the whole page at once, so we're trying to fit the comparison and the text within a sensible amount of space. 2) We're usually trying to draw attention to one particular comparison, with the in-line links - it would be very difficult to have to say 'well there's this, but compared to that camera you get that and compared with this other camera you get the other.

So, for now, there will be two-camera comparisons within review but with the option to compare four always available.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (5 months ago)

@R.Butler:
Although it is a great idea, to try and please everyone - including those browsing your site on a smartphone - I'm not sure peasing everyone is possible. Perhaps a version of the website in WAP format may be an idea for smartphone and lower resolution tablet users.

It is nice to draw attention to one other camera, in a comparison. But do keep in mind, that users also want to add their own camera into the mix, out of curiosity, plus the other camera they've had their eyes on. Making space for 4 is the best.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (5 months ago)

@Timmbits - as I say, a 4-up comparison of every camera in the system is available from the menu on every page - it's just not really compatible with trying to make specific points about cameras.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (5 months ago)

Thanks Richard. I wasn't aware of how to get the 4 way display before. Thanks for showing us the way.

I didn't know that there is a Seattle, United Kingdom?

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (5 months ago)

@mpgxsvgd - There isn't a Seattle in the UK but I'd feel ridiculous with a US flag appearing next to my name, given I'm not American.

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (5 months ago)

But Richard, we all know you want to be American so you may as well hve the flag

(*joking*)

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