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Canon PowerShot G16 updated with test scene samples

By dpreview staff on Oct 28, 2013 at 19:12 GMT
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We just updated our first impressions review of the Canon PowerShot G16 with our studio test scene showing image quality in both JPEG and Raw capture modes. It includes downloadable Raw files of both the daylight and low light scenes. As usual this allows you to compare the G16 with other cameras. 

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (7 months ago)

This looks like a nice camera, and it will probably be a perfect choice for some.

But personally I don't find any compelling reason to select one of these over it's rivals. The RX100 is smaller and has better IQ. The LX7 is smaller and cheaper. The EPM2 has much better IQ and you can swap lenses. The Nikon 1 is even a better choice, as far as I am concerned.

I just find it too big, too expensive, and too limited in what it can do. However, I feel the G1 X is a very compelling camera, due to the much larger sensor.

The Canon G series are still nice cameras, that seem to everything fairly wekll, but they are pretty much like your father's Oldsmobile. However, for many people this will still be the perfect camera.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

How about for many, I bet Canon sell more G15/16s than any other maker combined for this class of camera. RX100/100II is also in a different class, it's the size of the S110/120 cameras, but it's also heavier than the G15. Weight matters at times, especially when in the pocket. It can be the size of a dime but if it weighs like a paperweight.....

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Adrian Van
By Adrian Van (7 months ago)

In good light especially for outdoor photos on travel vacation, a camera like G15/16 is fast at AF and takes decent enough photos, is lightweight with collapsible lens to fit in small pouch. Exactly what my wife would want over a ILC larger lens mirrorless. Myself, I would own both mirrorless ILC/CSC and a advanced compact camera like this one, and I do.

For a less important social / family / travel walkabout this is plenty good enough image quality especially for family photos. I will bring my DSLR (or maybe CSC mirrorless) along when the best quality is needed or AF speed. Who owns only one camera if they are an enthusiast these days?

Top cameras for advanced compacts: G15/16 or P7800 or LX7 in my opinion for the lightest to carry with decent length zoom. I imagine some pros or semi pros still buy these cameras in addition to owning other cameras.

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Marcos Villaroman
By Marcos Villaroman (7 months ago)

As a long time Canon fanboy, the G series of cameras are instantly recognizable to me. But, these days I find I want a more pocketable small camera or if I have to lug it around in a small camera bag if I am settling for small sensor. So I'd be looking for a RX100 III (with hopefully improved ergonomics) or a LX7 for now.

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justmeMN
By justmeMN (7 months ago)

High-end 1/1.7" sensor cameras may seem like a dated concept, but as long as people keep buying them, Canon and Nikon will keep making them.

5 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

You nailed that one to the wall. Exactly.

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franzel
By franzel (7 months ago)

No fully articulating display, no thanks .

1 upvote
DFPanno
By DFPanno (7 months ago)

I'll keep my RX100 thanks.

18 upvotes
SergioMO
By SergioMO (7 months ago)

Me too !

3 upvotes
Allen Yang
By Allen Yang (7 months ago)

What if this Canon G16 is 150 bucks cheaper than your Sony RX100?

1 upvote
NIK11
By NIK11 (7 months ago)

DPRE says G16 has the same sensor as G15.

Canon UK says it's a (new) BSI version (Sony anyone?). Can someone from DPRE please confirm which is correct?

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

Good question...

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (7 months ago)

We checked with Canon USA and they're saying it's definitely the same as the one in the G15.

However, Canon UK's website is still stating BSI CMOS.

Our article has been amended to reflect this inconsistency.

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BeaniePic
By BeaniePic (7 months ago)

Love my G15, One of the Best Small Format cameras I've ever used. The G16 looks like a Great camera. I won't need to upgrade but am so pleased that Canon do what they do and hope they continue at the pace they do it. Thumbs Up!!!

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Jogger
By Jogger (7 months ago)

Probably a score of 65 and a DPR GOLD Award.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

Probably not a score of 65, and the G15 got gold. Since the G16 isn't much different it probably will get a gold award. I certainly give the G15 my equivalent of one.

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Photato
By Photato (7 months ago)

The originals G1, G2 had a 3X lens.
That, with a larger sensor, say 2/3" or 1" would have made this a more compelling product.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

Likely the G17/18 may be that step, but the G15/16's super fast lens, excellent range, and very very good sensor translate into good to great shots made in almost any circumstance. Spec shoppers can nitpick the G15/G16 to death, but those that USE it know it's not far off on IQ from any of the major competition out there including cameras with larger sensors.

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Photato
By Photato (7 months ago)

Nope, the G16 pics are meh.
The zoom range needs to scale back and the sensor has to grow if you want higher quality pictures.
These days some phones have larger sensors.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

Larger sensors and lessor IQ. I'm not saying I'm not for larger sensors, but no lunch is free. Keeping the lens speed fast and zoom range useable becomes more and more difficult for a compact camera the larger the sensor. A 2/3" sized sensor may be the next logical step for Canon since the G1X already has an almost APS-C sized sensor in it - the largest of its class.

Period.

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reginalddwight
By reginalddwight (7 months ago)

The emergence of CSC has made tweener cameras like the Canon G16 and Nikon P7800 increasingly irrelevant.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

That might be true but to what margin? That is key. If companies are producing serious compacts at a rate far greater than in the past (before CSC) one has to consider by just how much they are making them irrelevant- obviously the are selling and in demand.

Personally, a camera like the G15/16/RX100II is much more appealing for a compact solution given the range and speed of lenses and overall IQ- not to mention how compact they are in comparison to m4/3 cameras etc.

Body only, they are similar, soon as you add a lens, m4/3 cameras lose the compact advantage in most cases- and in all cases if you try to match the focal length equivalent. Try finding a 28-140mm f/1.8-2.8 lens for a CSC, any brand, and reply. Good luck to you!

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (7 months ago)

Probably true to us camera junkies . . . but you have to admit that its a pretty solid offering . . . If someone was asking you what camera to get and they didn't want to get into changing lenses . . . this would probably be one of the cameras you'd tell them to check out . . . :)

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Thomas Gutjahr
By Thomas Gutjahr (7 months ago)

I'm currently travelling with a nikon v2, which is much lighter can a DSLR with an equivalent lens attached. Once operational (after startup or wakeup), focusing in bright light is fast - faster compared to a cpmpact. CSC and compact share relatively slow wakeup and startup. Compacts, however, are much lighter and portable. Do each system has its pros and cons and users need to decide what suitable to them.

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Thomas Gutjahr
By Thomas Gutjahr (7 months ago)

I'm currently travelling with a nikon v2, which is much lighter than a DSLR with an equivalent lens attached. Once operational (after startup or wakeup), focusing in bright light ins fast - faster compared to a cpmpact. CSC and compact share relatively slow wakeup and startup. Compacts, however, are much lighter and portable. So each system has its pros and cons and users need to decide what suitable to them.

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Adrian Van
By Adrian Van (7 months ago)

To Thomas: this G16 claims to be faster AF speed or less lag time than previously. Not all compacts are the same. Depends on processor and other factors. Many new CSCs (like new Olympus and Panasonic models) now have very fast AF and okay startup. Bit slower AF in very low light though because of contrast detect focus.

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Lawrencew
By Lawrencew (7 months ago)

Pity there is no remote control of the camera via wifi as with 70D and 6D.
Why does Canon cripple its lesser models like this?

2 upvotes
SRT3lkt
By SRT3lkt (7 months ago)

I hope SX60 will be more exciting.

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tomasson88
By tomasson88 (7 months ago)

I hope there will be a sx60 HS...

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Infared
By Infared (7 months ago)

Why?
..and its ugly.
ya know...Canon has been off the mark a LOT these days.
This situation kind of reminds me of RIM/Blackberry...of course it should be RINM.
Research (Not) In Motion.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

The G15 is not off the mark- it's a fine fine camera. How can Canon be off the mark when they are the world leader in camera sales? I ask that, not accusatory, but with pure curiosity as to how you come to that conclusion.

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Red5TX
By Red5TX (7 months ago)

General Motors used to be the world leader in automobile sales, but they eventually lost sight of what matters, became less competitive, etc. It can happen to anybody. Just ask Microsoft.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

Of course it can, I'm not denying that. But Canon haven't slipped from the top spot- not in a very long time. And still are there. Every year I hear comments like this, and every year Canon still stay #1. This has been since 2001. I'm not saying they can't fall, I'm saying they haven't and whatever they are doing is working. Their products are mature products that don't offer gimmicktry in most circumstances, more calculated progressive designs- apparently that works.

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Hachu21
By Hachu21 (7 months ago)

cgarrard, did you heard about the M success? I think we can call that a fail from Canon. And the mirorless market is not a niche anymore.

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Eleson
By Eleson (7 months ago)

@cgarrard, does their market position say anything about the cameras qualities?

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

Were we talkign about the M only here? Oh we were? I thought we were talking about Canon's success. One failure in many successes does not an "off the mark lately" make. Lets not exaggerate the truth. Fact is that Canon is doing very well, and that cannot be contradicted, no matter how many times you claim it. Fact is a fact I'm afraid.

@eleson, apparently it does to a vast majority if they are making and selling more than any other maker. To you, probably not, but you don't represent the entire camera market.

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wlad
By wlad (7 months ago)

yawn, another 6 months, another irrelevant "professional" P&S...

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massimogori
By massimogori (7 months ago)

I noticed the size of the wi-fi logo. Is it aimed at visually impaired people?

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wlad
By wlad (7 months ago)

my guess is that it's the only difference between G16, and the previous version, so they decided to make the logo so prominent

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JWIS206
By JWIS206 (7 months ago)

I suspect the WI-FI logo is just a sticker that can easily be removed. That's the way it was on my SX280 HS.

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steelhead3
By steelhead3 (7 months ago)

I wonder if this will be the last camera of this type from Canon; it seems like we are reading about newest and greatest from 2005.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (7 months ago)

The G6 (from 2004) had an F2.0 lens; the G16 doesn’t.

The G7 (from 2005) had an F2.8 lens and didn’t shoot raw.

There wasn’t a G series release in 2005.

But that 2004 version sure had a faster lens than the G16.

Somehow I'd bet it's not the last from Canon in this series.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (7 months ago)

@HowaboutRAW- Sorry that's wrong. The G15 and G16 have an f/1.8-2.8 range, the G6 had a f/2-f/3 range. The zoom range on the lens was also less, especially on the wide end.

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BeaniePic
By BeaniePic (7 months ago)

HowaboutRAW should read before commenting. This is the fastest G serious camera ever. i use the G15 which is the same. Stunningly fast and accurate...

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (7 months ago)

cgarrard:

Yes, I was wrong about the F-stop. I shouldn't have gone by my memory of the other later Gs.

BeaniePic:

Look up the meaning of fast.

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panamforeman
By panamforeman (7 months ago)

Still and all I see very little reason to upgrade to the G16. It is/will be a great camera. I have the G15 and think it is a great camera, but I don't see the dramatic difference in the two. The only way I would upgrade is if the IQ is "significantly" improved and the low-light performance is "much" better. And that's saying a lot since the G15 is outstanding in those two categories.
Interesting & dramatic changes coming next year? G2X?? G17?

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BeaniePic
By BeaniePic (7 months ago)

Hi HowaboutRaw. No need for me to look up the meaning. When I bought my G15 it out preformed, Sony, Olympus and Fufi when I tested them. Haven't look back since. :)

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (7 months ago)

BeaniePic:

Sure looks like you need to look up the term.

And no a G15 doesn't outperform generally Sony, Olympus or [Fifi]. The G15 may do better than some of those companies' cameras. After all the Panasonic LX7 and the Samsung EX2F, at least when wide, will always be faster than the Canon G15.

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Zigmont
By Zigmont (7 months ago)

I use cameras like these to cover trade shows; much easier to carry than my old Nikon D200 or D70, plus I need the video recording feature.

I've been using a Nikon P7000 and P7700 but still not happy with their speed or the 30fps video, I need fast reflexes when grabbing trade show shots. So this Canon may be just what I need, thanks for the preview.

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