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Canon EOS 70D preview updated with studio & real-world samples

Aug 7, 2013 at 01:16:44 GMT
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One of the hottest cameras of the year so far, the Canon EOS 70D won't be in stores for a few more weeks but we've got hold of an early beta sample, and Canon has let us post pictures from it. Not wanting to waste any time, we've been busily shooting with it for the past few days both in the studio and out in the real world, and we've added a lot to our previously-published preview. Click through for a link to the expanded preview, now including studio comparison pages and a large gallery of sample images.

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tjsnappy
By tjsnappy (1 day ago)

compared to my 550d, wow no progress been made over almost 4 years!!! still using mirror wtf!

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K E Hoffman
By K E Hoffman (1 week ago)

How can we compare the a77 to the 70D with is a very interesting comparison if one is on old and one is on new.. The test board is very nice.. but it really creates a break in value of the previous DPReview tests.

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PhotoKhan
By PhotoKhan (1 week ago)

Got to love how the "DPReviewer" found out that, in "Face-detection/Tracking AF" mode, the camera takes noticeably longer to lock focus when there's no face in the scene and then writes an whole paragraph and makes a video to make it look like a limitation.

It's called "Face-detection/Tracking AF" for Pete's sake!!!

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F4Gunstar
By F4Gunstar (1 week ago)

Can the Canon 70D trigger a 430EX II wireless through radio or does it have to fire the built-in flash in order to optically fire the remote flash? I'd like to be able to position my flash wherever and have the camera trigger it without needing to also fire the built-in flash.

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bugbait
By bugbait (2 weeks ago)

The new scene has many well thought out elements, plenty of shadow opportunities when combined with the alternate light.

I would appreciate it if you would tell us the brand of the color wheels you used so we might buy one for ourselves, not all brands are the same.

One problem does persist though. Although I appreciate your including the four most common ethnicity, none of these people actually live their lives with a flash bulb in front of their face. Especially the white man's image, it is nearly worthless. Very few clients would pay for such blown out face shots. Just look at the forehead of the black gentleman it is ridiculous. The scene is large enough to accommodate 8 human subjects, older with lots of character wrinkles and varied skin tone would be advisable. I am curious if others feel the same. I would also of included the female image from the previous scene as so many of us remember the iris and lips so well in comparisons.

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Frank_NZ
By Frank_NZ (3 weeks ago)

Guess you have an extra STM lens (55-250mm) to test with the 70D now Mr Butler. :-)

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donald82R0
By donald82R0 (3 weeks ago)

So when is the full review coming up? I'm holding back on buying the 70d until I see this review :)

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R Butler
By R Butler (3 weeks ago)

We're working on it and will try to publish as soon as we can.

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donald82R0
By donald82R0 (3 weeks ago)

Are we talking about days or weeks or months? :)

I'm basically wondering if I should get the 70d for $1200 or a used 7d for $800-900, and I expect that the final review will provide a direct comparison I could use to make this decision.

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jackpro
By jackpro (3 weeks ago)

70D not bad at 6400

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Kaushik Ghosh
By Kaushik Ghosh (1 week ago)

Why on the earth someone or you want to shoot at iso 6400 ?

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Ciskje
By Ciskje (3 weeks ago)

Please when will be visible Sony A58 results?

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Ron Rosenzweig
By Ron Rosenzweig (3 weeks ago)

I am really impressed with the file quality, especially the tonality of the Fuji X-Pro 1. No, I don't own one but I am continually impressed with the images I see from that camera. And yes, I am blown away by the very little difference in apparent image quality between the 70D and the 5D MkIII. Nice comparison. I think you cold grab any of these cameras and create images of the finest file quality.

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dylanbarnhart
By dylanbarnhart (3 weeks ago)

I like the day light and low light simulation. Low light looks quite a bit worse that day light at the same ISO.

How about add another one for high contrast light? That way we can see the effect of dynamic range too. I know there's a Kodak gray scale chart at the top for judging dynamic range, but it's hard to see how it affects real life pictures. It needs a highlight region with high intensity light on it, and a shadow region in near darkness. Then it'd be easier to judge blown-out and black-out areas.

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JackM
By JackM (3 weeks ago)

Wow Nikon doesn't know how to write a JPEG!

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FujicaST605
By FujicaST605 (3 weeks ago)

No, Nikon's default jpeg are soft, but can be easily adjusted by their picture controls

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Ciskje
By Ciskje (3 weeks ago)

Nikon's jpeg are compressed very bad, they are not "soft", there is huge amount of noise visible.

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chj
By chj (3 weeks ago)

70D looks good, I can't pick a clear winner. GX7 also looks good.

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rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (3 weeks ago)

I have to say the new target is not very good, especially the images of people. All seem overexposed, with clipped Reds, not useful for evaluation of cameras or lenses. I miss the 3-dimensionality of the previous scene, and the many different colors and textures in feathers and other objects. The exception is the addition of the Beatles ;-)

Re the new Canon, it seems to lose a bit in detail compared to the 700D. And all lose compared to D7100 (RAW, of course).

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lem12
By lem12 (3 weeks ago)

When placed on B&W scale the whites turn yellowish from X-Pro1 sample.

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R Butler
By R Butler (3 weeks ago)

Sorry, I don't understand your point.

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lem12
By lem12 (3 weeks ago)

When I place that rectangular thing from the 20 bill to any white scale the output from two Canons and Nikon looks white, from FujiFilm is yellowish.

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lem12
By lem12 (3 weeks ago)

I have nothing against New Studio Scene. To me it looks more than enough, it's fine.

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R Butler
By R Butler (3 weeks ago)

Is this in daylight mode or low light mode? The low light JPEGs are shot in Auto White balance, so give an insight into how much correction the cameras will try to do in tungsten light.

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lem12
By lem12 (3 weeks ago)

Thanks

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David Hull
By David Hull (3 weeks ago)

This thing looks to be relatively free of banding compared to past offerings (based on these images anyway).

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lem12
By lem12 (3 weeks ago)

As I see every camera maker chooses their own picture style method for JPEG's here. Both Canons are more natural in contrast - the 70D is leading, the 700D a bit brighter but has just a bit less contrast and bit yellower. The D7100 is even more yellow with everything but contrast. The X-Pro1 applies much less contrast than both Canons, less color saturated than Canons and Nikon and more balanced in that regard.

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SaltLakeGuy
By SaltLakeGuy (3 weeks ago)

Across the board I see NO advantage of the 70D's output over my current OMD-EM5, in fact in most cases the OMD is crisper pulling better resolution. It's a nice try on Canon's part to improve upon the LiveView. Keep working on it I'd say.

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CNY_AP
By CNY_AP (3 weeks ago)

Olympus current 16MP cameras are awesome...but they lack a mirror which many still like (I think I'd prefer an EVF). 70D just tries to catch up on live view / direct focusing, nobody claimed it had best in class IQ. But realistically, every camera that's in this new tool/scene looks very good, and in prints or display on a computer, they would be very hard to tell apart.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (3 weeks ago)

I'd like to see more camera's in the comparison tool. I'm missing my old reference points like the Pentax K-5 an Nikon D7000.

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Hugo808
By Hugo808 (3 weeks ago)

So they are to all intents and purposes identical then?

It's nice to know that judging a camera by IQ these days is a pursuit for obsessives and decisions can be made on the other features that they all share.

The differences must be so miniscule that buying a camera could be done on
whether you like the button arrangement.

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Akpinxit
By Akpinxit (3 weeks ago)

Actually , lack of controls , buttons , grip ...the " button arrangement" , is on main turn offs \ turn ons in this business .
IQ for non PP would be the second thing to compare .

As for this model , it seems (as was said here before) that next ACR may fix the softness of RAW file . Bit noisy though comparing to 700D .

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BeaniePic
By BeaniePic (4 weeks ago)

Reading through the comments here reiterates to me that what the image taker wants and likes is different to what others like. This has been the same argument for years. Goes to show, use what you like. All the current range of cameras do a Fantastic job. I have my preference. Canon is my number 1 and gives me what I want.Sony misses the mark for me... Enjoy your kit whatever it is and love your photography :)

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (4 weeks ago)

ACR conversion not ready? Similar to strange EM-1 colors, 70D is 1/3rd stop brighter in low light but in jpeg the difference dissapears. AA filter is strong, one of the most moire free RAWs...I suspect its video performance will be very good. This comes at the cost of applying slightly more sharpening in post. Red channel performance suspect in ACR conversion...in jpeg not nearly the same difference between sensors as RAW. I do not think ACR is ready for the 70D or EM-1 with regards to sensor profiling.

Look at the black man's forehead in low light shot with raw vs jpeg...pretty significant difference in brightness...I have not digged into RAW to see if it actually is more greatly exposed although exposures should be same as 700D

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 weeks ago)

the dual-pixel AF is too good that it's dull to play with.
I used to wow when someone did it manually.

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (4 weeks ago)

Skimmed DxOMark and the PMP scores did not improve over the 18MP sensor, so again it is pretty much true that the 70D is the most competent video camera but has made little progress in stills. A very offensive thought to pixel peepers, but in terms of consumer wants, its probably the correct business strategy on Canons part.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (4 weeks ago)

the fuji color noise at high iso is amazing.

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chj
By chj (3 weeks ago)

because the Fuji applies noise reduction

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huyzer
By huyzer (4 weeks ago)

Colorchecker question

The addition of the ColorChecker is great. I read that those fade after a while (how long it takes will vary upon how, and how long it has been lit for, most likely). What are the plans to rotate in a new one?

Also, how about a chrome ball (for absolute highlight), and a black trap (for absolute shadow)? Similar in vein to this would be the SpyderCube.

Thanks.

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (4 weeks ago)

Why no Sony SLT's for comparison? IMO at least the A57 and A58 (20MP) should be there.

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R Butler
By R Butler (3 weeks ago)

Both those two will be included in the coming days - I think the A58 is currently on the camera stand.

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chouster
By chouster (4 weeks ago)

As you can see it at imaging-resource, details and structure especially in the reds getting totally smudged and lost pretty fast with increasing iso.

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ThePassenger
By ThePassenger (4 weeks ago)

@DPR: On my monitor I noticed the followig behaviour of the test scene:

When I change my browser resolution to 110% and switch image size to "Print" or "Web", the grey rectangle of the test scene jumps to the upper left corner. Then the crops (at least the lower two ones) loose connection to the grey rectangle and remain unchanged or show a plain grey when the rectangle is moved.

If I leave image size at 100% everything works perfectly.

System: Win7, Browser: IE 9.0.20 or FF 11.0

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chouster
By chouster (4 weeks ago)

What can be seen here is that the Nikon D7100 is the best APS-C camera.

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ThePassenger
By ThePassenger (4 weeks ago)

...with the worst JPG-engine ;-))

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (4 weeks ago)

Just check the Nikon7100 at 1600ISO and above...

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (4 weeks ago)

only if you are a stupid biased nikon fanboy....

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lensberg
By lensberg (4 weeks ago)

@ chouster - your statement even contradicts DXO's findings... where apparently the D5200 is the "best APS-C DSLR" ... but Nikon's probably got DXO on their payroll...

Nobody's denying the D7100 is good ... but give credit where credit is due... the 70D is easily as good... if not better...

Even dpreview's studio sample scene clearly demonstrates that the 70D captures practically the same amount of detail plus retains it better all the way up the ISO ladder...

Look at all 4 peoples face in the test scene... the 70D definitely delivers the cleaner, less noisy set of images...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 weeks ago)

@chouster
I think it is but I'd want to have a LPF even with slightly more noise (more shot noise for less high frequency noise).

@lensberg
I protest the low resolution 20.2MPix sensor. the 4MPix difference is quite visible. would prefer a 40.3MPix if Canon can do it (that is 80.6M photodiodes).

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chouster
By chouster (4 weeks ago)

I admit the 70D is a very nice camera. But please take a look at the low light scene, raw, iso 800 and above, the red yarn looks disgusting, even compared to the 700D. IQ wise, the 70D can't match the D7100.

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BeaniePic
By BeaniePic (4 weeks ago)

Oh dear.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 weeks ago)

E-M1 looks noisier than E-M5 ...

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James Booba
By James Booba (4 weeks ago)

hm 70D doesnt even comes close to a nex-6 in higher ISO ... meh.

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lensberg
By lensberg (4 weeks ago)

So it would be safe to assume Sony is light years ahead of Canon in sensor design... best solution lets stop buying Canon cameras... :)

Its obvious even to the untrained eye... Sony is applying NR in their RAW files... Look at the sketch of the old bearded man... Canon & Nikon's samples are much sharper...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (4 weeks ago)

it's hard to define the word RAW. both Canon and Nikon process RAW files so we get black dots and missing stars. Sony do it quite heavily and Pentax do it to extreme (well done).

E-M5 maybe somewhere between Sony and Pentax but it's difficult to punish NR quantitatively.

btw, I'm convinced that 70D's sensor is inferior, though it may be less than 0.44 stops (difference between 70D and D7100 according to DxOMark) but exactly how much I don't know.

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Neal Hood
By Neal Hood (4 weeks ago)

Looks to me like the Fuji is the overall best one here. Nikon is very good too. But the truth of the matter, they are all pretty close. No one is vastly better than the other.

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chouster
By chouster (4 weeks ago)

Take a look at the artificial bulb light view. The 70D can't handle reds. RAW at iso 100 looks really bad, especially the red yarn. At iso 800 it's starting to look terrible, unacceptable.

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Duncan Dimanche
By Duncan Dimanche (4 weeks ago)

It's not the artificial light.... it's the actual low light test... this is where canon really falls apart.. I'm so glad that Dpreview finaly does an actual low light test.

Open your eyes world. Nikon IS the king of low light (in a low light environment not under the sun)

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JustDavid
By JustDavid (4 weeks ago)

Duncan, might I suggest that there are two kings? Don't forget Pentax squeeze a bit more from the same sensors that Nikon uses. When DPreview add Pentax samples for the new tests, we shall see who's king and who is a Queen :)

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Frederik Paul
By Frederik Paul (4 weeks ago)

What is strange is that I get better results for the D7100 when I process the RAW files myself, especially regarding color noise.

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Duncan Dimanche
By Duncan Dimanche (4 weeks ago)

Raw is the way to go ;)
So don't be surprise

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Eleson
By Eleson (4 weeks ago)

This was the day i stopped caring about test charts...
Seeing how the RX100 compares to the others @ ISO3200 or even 6400 I ask to myself "Why bother?"
Yes, the RX100 is softer in the corners, but still...

There must be other differentiators between cameras that matter a lot more!
Like repetitive tests of AF speed please ....

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JustDavid
By JustDavid (4 weeks ago)

just about as fast as my Pentax Q, well done :)

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (4 weeks ago)

have you noticed that the D7100 shows strange red cast in the "stripes" (JPG).

70D is all black and white, the D7100 showes ugly redish colors where none should be.

and at ISO 3200 the D7100 is no match for the 70D anymore.

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Duncan Dimanche
By Duncan Dimanche (4 weeks ago)

Are you looking at the JPGs or the RAW ?

Cause the 7100 blows away the Canon in terms of noise and sharp images... (Look at the low light scene for the high ISO cause this is what matters.. you use high ISO in low light not in a sunny day)
If you are going to judge the images with the jpgs then yes canon are sharper and so and so but that's just the Nikon way of exporting their JPGs...

Cheers

ps Go RAW !!

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InTheMist
By InTheMist (4 weeks ago)

I find the Fuji best, followed by the Nikon. Except reds where Canon 70D rules.

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chouster
By chouster (4 weeks ago)

Ehmm, no. The reds with the 70D are really bad.

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Matt1645f4
By Matt1645f4 (4 weeks ago)

What an excellent way of preventing comparisons for owners of cameras who might consider upgrading or changing brands. might as well not bothered doing this comparison studio test!!!

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (4 weeks ago)

You can still compare using the old test scene, which will remain in this review. We're actively working towards adding more cameras for the new scene.

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lensberg
By lensberg (4 weeks ago)

Very impressive noise performance... clearly leaps & bounds ahead of the 60D / T5i ... JPEG definitely looks cleaner than the D7100 ... albeit ever so slightly softer... D7100 image looks speckled with chroma noise for some reason...

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CJ Lan
By CJ Lan (4 weeks ago)

I really do not like the layout of this studio test.

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webrunner5
By webrunner5 (3 weeks ago)

I think it is terrible.

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TheProv
By TheProv (4 weeks ago)

Nikon D7100 JPG ISO 12800 is MISSING

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TheProv
By TheProv (4 weeks ago)

I reply myself: it's not missing, but it's under/past ISO 25600, so if you set ISO12800 for 70D, the tool cannot find the same for D7100.

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Nukunukoo
By Nukunukoo (4 weeks ago)

As a D7100 owner, I am impressed at how the 70D's noise performance at ISO800 and below has improved over the 700D/60D. Granted some detail is lost at ISO1600 and above over the Nikon, it's still an improvement over its predecessors.

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Jacques Cornell
By Jacques Cornell (4 weeks ago)

I'm impressed by how well the latest m43 stack up. At ISO 1600 and above for RAW, I see little or no advantage to APS-C and only about a 1-stop advantage to the 5D3. Looks to me like MFT is now usable for event work up to ISO 3200. This is 1Ds2 performance, which was bloody good, in a tiny, cheap body. Cool!

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devlin2427
By devlin2427 (4 weeks ago)

Its pretty sad that Canon is now trailing m4/3s in sensor performance.

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Matt1645f4
By Matt1645f4 (4 weeks ago)

I find it shocking they've fallen so far, may be their concentrating on the FF sensors?

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (4 weeks ago)

stop trolling morons....

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halfwaythere
By halfwaythere (4 weeks ago)

Truth, such a bitter pill.

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BeaniePic
By BeaniePic (4 weeks ago)

Each to there own... m4/3s misses the mark for me in all test work and jobs I've tried. Not used one to sell yet...

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Marko Laurits
By Marko Laurits (4 weeks ago)

I personally hope that the review will answer to my question: which is better video camera - Panasonic GH-3 or Canon 70D / 750D / M2?

And if Canon is good then which lenses are recommended?

Thank you in advance!

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rfsIII
By rfsIII (4 weeks ago)

Focus performance in video and still is much more important to me than almost any other parameter. Noise, dynamic range, pixel flavor, and all the other things don't matter if the shot is soft.

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Cindro
By Cindro (1 month ago)

Does anyone know, whether 70d has a problem with externally monitor as a 60d. At 60d when pressed rec automatically switches the image from 1080i to 480i

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V2MEdia
By V2MEdia (4 weeks ago)

That is for sure?

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mrtrik71
By mrtrik71 (1 month ago)

i think dxmo or whatever its called loves slamming canon maybe its just me but i think they just might be Nikon enthusiasts ,i think the 70D is a very awesome camera full stop.

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Scott Eaton
By Scott Eaton (1 month ago)

One of my biggest gripes about my 60D is it's bad habit of blowing strong reds, which Dx0 confirmed in their sensor tests and can be illustrated on Dpreview's test studio scene. I hate to agree with 70D defenders, but I'm seeing a marked improvement in the 70D over the 60D, in terms of noise floor and especially color accuracy. Not sure what Dx0 is testing, but the tests I'm seeing here do show an improved sensor over the 7D and 60D, and not just results only visible by pixel peepers.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (1 month ago)

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/
add to the end:
Canon/EOS-70D
Canon/EOS-700D
Nikon/D7100
Sony/NEX-7
for respective cameras.

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gooz49
By gooz49 (4 weeks ago)

wow dxo. first time seeing this site. but. its a nikon site i tihnk. cause a crop sensor of a nikon is more than a full frame of any other brands. are you kidding me? not just the body. but the lenses as well. its in accurate and 100% nikon. all papers no real world test.... stick to dpreview. dxo is nothing.

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Matt1645f4
By Matt1645f4 (4 weeks ago)

DPReview love quoting and mentioning their friends at DX0 so you cant trust DPR 100% anymore :(

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KW Phua
By KW Phua (4 weeks ago)

Base of DXO result, all pro should use RX1 not D4 or 1D4. LOL.

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