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Can Photojournalism Survive in the Instagram Era?

Jul 19, 2013 at 18:11:26 GMT
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Former Marine Infantry Sergeant Jeff Gramlich with his family in Buffalo, New York. From 'Stories from Iraq and Afghanistan, 2011' by Jennifer Karady.

With newspapers laying off photographers and picture editors, and the rise of 'citizen journalism', can traditional photojournalism survive? Nonprofit news organization Mother Jones has published an interesting interview with photographer Fred Richin, whose new book 'Bending the Frame: Photojournalism, Documentary and the Citizen' aims to explore the current state of the profession, and answer some of the questions about its future. 

Fred Richin is a Pulitzer prize nominated photographer, writer, and publisher, and former photo editor of the New York Times magazine. Mother Jones describes his new book as 'a vigorous wake-up call to photojournalists to innovate or die'.

In the interview, Richin describes what the recent Chicago Sun-Times layoffs mean for photographers: 'Given today's budgets for journalism, my guess is that quite a few photographers will be fired in the near future. But I certainly hope that many visual journalists will be hired or funded along the way as well - we urgently need their perspectives.' 

An Afghan soldier protects his face from a dust storm. Balazs Gardi / Basetrack.org, Creative Commons.

For Richin, the revolution occurring in his trade is not all bad news. Richin describes modern photojournalism as 'a hybrid enterprise of amateurs and professionals', but he isn't against the former camp, saying 'many who are making cellphone images [have] a stake in the outcome of what they are depicting. In some ways this makes their work more honest'.

But what photojournalism really needs, suggests Richin, are 'curators to filter this overabundance, more than [...] new legions of photographers'. Richin makes an interesting point about so-called 'citizen journalism', saying 'citizen journalism is not only sending in comments and making images with cellphones but also supporting good journalism, including photography. Citizen journalism is not only the right to self-express but the right to act like a citizen and not a consumer'.

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Total comments: 101
the Mtn Man
By the Mtn Man (2 months ago)

Am I the only one who thinks the "Instagram" aesthetic looks like crap?

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s1Lma
By s1Lma (3 months ago)

I am sorry, but I am just feeling these-like posts are a kind of a masked advertising campaign is sense "Oh look, how many people making photos with mobile phones. They are now driving the world of photography!"...
W.r.t. the subject of article I think it needs to be strongly pointed out the reason for what is going on. I don't think people are not being able to appreciate the quality of the professional photograph anymore. Oh yes, they actually can. Otherwise, the fashion photography would have already been made by amateurs. On the other hand, as many have said, newspapers are not profitable anymore. No money - no professional photography. No need to invent some fictional revolutions...
Also, immediacy of mobile phone is very nice, but actually really useful in some extreme cases. Not many people check news the whole day, at least I hope it is so...

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yudhir
By yudhir (3 months ago)

It will exist..how genuine can citizens sourced photography be at all times.

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JustFred
By JustFred (3 months ago)

The future is Smartphone camera's. It's the end of DSLRs, Compacts, Bridge Camera's, Mirrorless Camera's and all other types of camera's. People laughed when this was first suggested soon after Smartphones came onto the market but the technoloy is so rapid and with ever more improvements. The same story as with the desktop computer which is also almost obsolete. It's all tablets now, even laptops are on the way out.

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Not An Ace
By Not An Ace (3 months ago)

BFD. Inside, SPs are the same electronics and glass that what we have today. SPs are simply a packaging concept. The same OEMs supply both products.

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Tommytune
By Tommytune (3 months ago)

SUCH GOOD NEWS! I can finally sell my clunky old SLR body and all of the silly lenses that I've collected over the years and just use my SP! Depth of field - there's an app for that. Low light issues - photoshop can phix it. SO glad to learn that SLR vs SPs comes down to 'just a packaging concept' and that issues like sensor size and light sensitivity don't mean a thing.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

Incidentally, the typo in the surname in this article has remained there since day 1. Is nobody interested in correcting it?

The site sells ads either way, eh?

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

I am tired of amature writeing and how we are loosing intrest in the basic principals of illiteracy.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

Made me smile, thanks! Cheers.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

This article was written by a journalist, so it of course has errors.

They've misspelled the name of the person making remarks, as noted by others previously.

They's also made an error in the title. The title reads, "Can Photojournalism Survive in the Instagram Era?" and misses the point entirely.

The correct title is, "Should Photojournalism Survive in the Instagram Era?"

If "photojournalism" means the entitled, self-absorbed, slow, expensive, biased, censored (or even censoring), and ponderous status quo, the answer is "no."

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Tommytune
By Tommytune (3 months ago)

Am I the only fan of photojournalists? Anyone here been to Afghanistan recently? I'd love to see YOUR photos.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

You are not the only fan of photojournalists. They are their own greatest fans.

As for my photos, go ahead and have a look. They're sorted by topic but you can search by date etc. Enjoy.

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Wye Photography
By Wye Photography (3 months ago)

When I was made redundant due to changing times, no one gave a toss. So photojournalists have no sympathy from me. They have been milking this unholy cow for years. The end is nigh. They have to "innovate" and this should mean get a different job like normal people and not fake it and photoshop it even more.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

Oh, no, "photojournalists" are visionaries, artists, analysts; indeed, true geniuses that interpret the events for the poor huddled masses. Without them we would not know what's going on in the world, for we are too controlled and feeble-minded to figure anything out. We can't rely on on another to get any useful info at all, we need them.

We're the problem, not the "photojournalists." We should spend more on PJs than we do on health care, defence, and infrastructure combined.

We're all lost without them.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

All this doesn't mean you world class artists and visionaries can't take phenomenal pictures and call them "images" any more.

It does, however, mean rational, intelligent people won't pay you so they can wait three days and see your picture on something that belongs on the bottom of a bird cage.

If you want to make a difference with your vast knowledge and scary talent, how about taking off your beret, getting off web sites where you waste your time insulting the intelligence of those that refuse to kneel before your imaging prowess, reconsidering before you call your critics idiots or worse, and do something meaningful with all that energy.

Go learn confocal microscopy or medical imaging. X-ray techs aren't bitter against crowd sourced imaging. Why? They do something relevant and useful.

Covering Watergate and "interpreting" the events is just not on any more. People think for themselves.

Bye!

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Not An Ace
By Not An Ace (3 months ago)

If alls photojournalists do these days it take the same old photos we see in old picture books then why should they be paid? I can do the same with my iPhone and post it to facebook for free.

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Muresan Bogdan
By Muresan Bogdan (3 months ago)

Yes it's a new era. But all the cost cutting from the newspapers will bite them in the ass. Of course a Tweet can beat even online news in our days. But journalism is about well documented facts. Most of what you read in the first hours on the internet is not news. It's only roumors. So yes people would pay to read the real facts, well documented, also visually documented. Cutting down the costs, loosing the visual impact and maybe soon the writting quality makes the payed newspapers ( printed or online) irrelvand in front of any other free blog that post an instagram image. Who will pay when they can get the same thing for free ?!

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pixd90
By pixd90 (3 months ago)

50 pages of advertisements and 2 pages of yesterdays news, great deal.

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

MB, you get to instantly see the kind of ignorance you're up against.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

Except neither you nor anyone else has done anything other than simply insult the messenger rather than even attempt to argue against the points made in the message.

Simply insulting one's critics doesn't improve one's credibility.

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pixd90
By pixd90 (3 months ago)

take off your blinders and get out of the stone ages. The days of sitting for 4 hours reading a newspaper are gone.

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

Laslo Moholy Nagy quipped " the illiterates of the future will be ignorant of the use of the camera and the typewriter alike .. " - an old but pertinent quote.

No one would ever claim that knowing how to type makes you a writer nor should we accept that having a camera qualifies the user as a storyteller except in a trivial way. Similarly, possessing images or finding and collecting them from the net is not knowledge or understanding that comes from reading them and critical thinking.

Ritchin is not championing the indiscriminate democratic potential of the web ... he is stating a problem thats needs a solution that is evolving as we become more visually literate.

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (3 months ago)

Newspapers are dead meat . It's amazing there is still people paying money to read day old news on paper that was made with toxic ink and paper made by chopping down trees . When the 777 crashed at SFO Samsung exec David Eun, a passenger on the Asiana Airlines flight posted photos on the internet as soon as he got off the 777. In a tweet sent at 12.13pm (PDT) Mr Eun said: 'I just crash landed at SFO. Tail ripped off. Most everyone seems fine. I'm ok ... surreal. He beat CNN by twenty minutes and forget about newspapers.

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Wye Photography
By Wye Photography (3 months ago)

I have not read or even purchased a "newspaper" for years. Mainly because I am tired of tits, sensationalism and very poor "journalism". Newspapers, or rather oldpapers are dead.

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carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (3 months ago)

The interview could simply say..its all about the money...period. Difficult times.

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

It's the end for the dinosaur media industry. Bye bye...

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carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (3 months ago)

To compare Gary, Susan (im saying since there are links to these photographers) and etc with these instagram photos (specially the basetrack photo) is so ridiculous...these photos simply have so much PP to make it pop, that in the end the content simply doesnt matter...they look so fake...its not a matter if photojournalism can survive the instagram era...its the fact that the vast majority of people doesnt care nor understand what a good photo is...its all about what is in trend...BTW, journalists beware, you are the next ones...

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

Wow. You are a fanboy. Take a digital photo class at the old folk's home and you can do the same. Guaranteed.

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carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (3 months ago)

20 July 2013 member..censorship..seriously...LOL

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

It's sad to predict how will fanboys like yourself will fare without dinosaur journalists to kowow to ;-)

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carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (3 months ago)

fanboy of what? do you even know what you are talking about? you said: There no way the cliche, meee-too pictures in the posted article can fly in today's youth-oriented social media world. so you are too criticizing the pictures quality. Are you into fight without even knowing what you are talking about? do you realize that i was talking about the same thing? or you just love the word fanboy? can you please quote photographers you do like? or you just like discussing over the internet....

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artlmntl
By artlmntl (3 months ago)

Carlos, I'm sure you realize that the trend away from actual skilled photographers is part of a larger trend in the way news is delivered and part of the shift from news to infotainment in the media.

CNN played a big role in all this with their emphasis on ireporters (what a joke) and firing their own photography staff in Nov 2011. The media outlets apparently think instant feedback is more important than quality, and the apologists tell the appropriate lies.

And you're right, the instagram photos are heavily manipulated, becoming photographic illustrations to provide editorial bias rather than well-shot documentary photographs that tell their own stories.

Journalists are already on the chopping block. There is no journalism, anyway. It's all media. And why hire professionals when amateurs will do it for free? It's horrible, but it's part of a larger race to the bottom. It indicates a long-term lowering of wages for anyone trying to make a living as a photojournalist.

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carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (3 months ago)

#artlmntl ... i agree completely...its too bad, specially this part..."And why hire professionals when amateurs will do it for free? It's horrible, but it's part of a larger race to the bottom. It indicates a long-term lowering of wages for anyone trying to make a living as a photojournalist."...there is an article here in Brasil that says that we will only know the value of the photos being taken now 50 years from now. Also saying that we are not anymore in the era of "I think, therefore I exist"....its the era of the "they liked, therefore I exist" (facebook quote). Too bad, IMO. Photography is getting worse and worse. Or the good instagram or whatever photos are hidden among a LOT of bad photos...

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carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (3 months ago)

#Censorship USA...out of curiosity, are you a man or a woman...or a kid about 12 years old...be civilized...or tell what you want in person..NOT over the internet....

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njkdo
By njkdo (3 months ago)

#censorship USA...If only you were smart enough to realize how stupid you really are...

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Davidgilmour
By Davidgilmour (3 months ago)

Lol, anyone can take a good photo with some basic knowledge of your camera and something like 10 rules of photography.

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

LOL Shocking that everyone isn't a world renowned photographer since it's so easy. Fool.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

Why the personal attack? It's a shame.

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Mike Walters
By Mike Walters (3 months ago)

David, will you ever get back together with Roger? :-)

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

By the way, if the article above is referring to the academic, Fred Ritchin, the author hasn't spelled the surname correctly.

Having journalists misreport even on one another isn't helping the cause, boys.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

Journalists are struggling for relevance.

Example: I cannot think of a more newsworthy or in fact important picture than "The Blue Marble" and that was taken neither by journalists nor photo pros nor artists.

There is a possibility that is being neglected, and that is that many in the media, at all levels within their respective organizations, may be self-aggrandizing imbeciles.

Consider the terrible Asiana airline crash at SFO. The quickest coverage came from mobiles. The traditional media then replayed the same images on a loop for hours whilst speculating to fill time and sell commercials. When a local TV station finally decided to break new info regarding the story, an entire newsroom full of people plus their management apparently didn't see anything wrong with telling viewers that "Wi Tu Lo" and "Sum Ting Wong" were among the crew...

So this is where we're at then: Privateer photos for news, old style media for comedic relief.

The media have gotten what they deserve.

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

I agree with you. "Struggling for relevance"? Surviving dinosaur journalists are simply the last holdouts at old media companies with their own agendas, dictating pre-determined content produced. Dinosaur journalism is obsolete and nearly dead. Social Media has replaced the old Soviet order.

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Muresan Bogdan
By Muresan Bogdan (3 months ago)

Your example is not very accurate. The astronauts are in fact trained photographers. One of their main mission is to capture images from space. And they do a great job at it. Take a look at this: http://petapixel.com/2012/11/06/a-talk-by-nasa-astronaut-donald-pettit-on-doing-photography-in-space/

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

Social media isn't news or facts or analysis. Journalism didn't exist in the Soviet Union. If you want propoganda and confusion of fact with fiction rely exclusively on social media for your information.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

People aren't going to rely on photographers to interpret the news for them, sorry. It's not that kind of party any more. In fact, isn't the type of controlled, spoon-fed distribution of selected information that you are proposing precisely what happened during the Soviet era on both sides of the iron curtain?

You are calling it... "analysis" whilst grasping at the idea that "analysts" are relevant or necessary. Either the masses are too dim to understand what's going on, and need a "photojournalist" to feed them the information in quanta they can absorb, or the masses just don't have good taste and don't know what's best for them.

Photojournalists, on the other hand, do know...

Rubbish.

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Tape5
By Tape5 (3 months ago)

Richin first suggests that ''many who are making cellphone images'' produce work that is ''more honest'', then he goes on to claim that the world needs ''curators'' to show us what is worth seeing in this ''overabundance'' of honest work.

Hallelujah brother. All we need now is a holy man who has been imbued with this divine power to ''curate'' to step forward and tell us distracted citizens what abridged version of truth we need to expose ourselves to.

Send us the bill.

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

In other words, Richin wants the continue the Soviet-style dinosaur media model that awards loyal, good behavior the Pulitzer Prize ;-)

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

Fred Ritchin's (not Richin!) comment about "honest photographs" refers to the fact that the author/photographer has a visible "stake in the outcome of what they are depicting". The honesty he refers to is that any editorial agenda(s) or bias surrounding the creation and use of the picture is clear.

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

.......
The number of pictures that are produced (of all kinds) that could be said to depict "newsworthy" events which are of interest to a broad public is staggering.

Making sense of that data (a meaningless pile otherwise) requires categorization, sorting, keywording, captioning, accreditation and dissemination online in some form. Ritchin is not speaking of a curator who is an aesthete or art critic , he is talking about data managers who facilitate the proliferation of visual knowledge and ideas by hammering chaotic data down into a useful form.

We are in trouble as a culture if we leave it to the amorphous online community to define the value of images based on memes and popular tastes. Good editors/curators/ are experts and can add a lot and cut through bias to create something that may not be visible to a person who does not have an analysis based on an overview of ALL that was said (visually) about an event. Un - edited work usually goes nowhere, and rightfully so.

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Tape5
By Tape5 (3 months ago)

The singular voice of the fellow human better be ignored and not seen at all than to become the ''unseeable'' curated voice that formally loses its existence.

Because then hope remains.

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

justinwonnacott,

The Yahoo CEO is correct. It's over for dinosaur media. Bye bye...

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

There no way the cliche, meee-too pictures in the posted article can fly in today's youth-oriented social media world. Kids don't want to see, read, or watch Pentagon sanctioned propaganda from paid insiders and stooges.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

Photojournalists, like almost any journalists, got scared, lazy and as a consequence irrelevant. You don't need to go to Iraq to get a good story. The corruption is through the roof right here. Get yourself a superzoom and shoot a local developer giving bribe to a local councilman, go to a local highschool and shoot drug dealers, go to DC area and shoot all those government contractors bribing GSA purchasing managers and DoD generals...

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Ferling
By Ferling (3 months ago)

First. What do we expect from folks in charge whom have no idea of the consequences of their decisions? Yes. An iPhone is a very capable device. I have nothing against folks using them. Even my cheap Samsung takes a few nice snaps. However, I like buttons that give me instant adjustments to a given situation, and a form factor based on decades of evolution. How many good shots have we missed because some dope was thumbing through a menu to punch up a setting? Of course, the camera is just a tool. What matters is whose doing the shooting. Great. Then answer this: Whom brings a knife to a gun fight?

Second. Let's train those folks on how to use their iPhones (knives) better. Like the say goes: The more you polish a turd.

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MdNvS
By MdNvS (3 months ago)

How many good shots have we missed because someone took too long to turn his camera on and choose the lens/settings? Or because he left it at home because it was too heavy?
As for the turd argument, technology will never be able to replicate Nature anyway, and that's how it should be. If you sometimes let Nature win, you get more honest results. Or at least "good enough" results unless you're a scientist or a crime scene investigator where accuracy is more important than emotion.

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Ferling
By Ferling (3 months ago)

Experienced pros can make settings faster than you can browse a menu, mostly without even taking their eye off the subject.

Life doesn't happen on cue. DSLRs are much quicker than someone having to press the phones wake button, sliding the screen, and finally pressing the camera button and wait for it take the shot. Your focus is thus drawn to the device instead of what's happening in front of it. By that time, I've captured the moment and off to the next scene. It's utter nonsense.

You're comment "good enough" is proof as to the lack of interest in quality today. I happen to care about that. You can get both quality and the right moment with the right tool.

Leaving the camera at home because it's heavy is lame. We're talking about professionals on the job.

What folks with iPhones don't get is that these organizations know great captures come from iPhones, but they don't care from WHO. They just know that one of you will have the shot they need. That's a gamble.

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Eleson
By Eleson (3 months ago)

"Then answer this: Whom brings a knife to a gun fight? "
That's not how it works today. When the action starts, some pull their knives, some run home to get their guns. And when they are back, the action is already over.
The speed of the knob turning doesn't enter the equation.

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (3 months ago)

Is the new Nokia Lumia 1020 a tool for a photojournalist or just a niche hobby product that will soon die away?

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Donnie G
By Donnie G (3 months ago)

The dynamics of the marketplace have flipped 180 degrees among today's news media consumers. Whereas, in the days before the widespread availability of phones that were equipped with cameras and video capture capabilities, the consumer expected a very high level of image quality and story telling proficiency from the images that accompanied a news article; and that's why photojournalists existed. Today however, it's all about quantity of content instead of quality of content, and today's average news consumer, having been trained to accept this tradeoff through years of daily social media exposure, "i.e., facebook, etc.", is no longer aware of the difference. Yes, every once in a while, some good quality content from a neophyte image maker will get published, but the majority of content will simply garner bragging rights for the person who can get their garbage published first anywhere, just like on facebook. Garbage in, garbage out, is now the mainstream journalism standard.

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JaFO
By JaFO (3 months ago)

you mean "years of reading crap like 'the sun' and other media that aren't worth the paper they're printed on"

We had crappy journalism before Facebook and Twitter became trending.
The only real difference is that the internet makes it easier to spot if you're willing to look.

We never knew that every paper sourced their articles from the same source without checking for facts, until we got access to that same source.

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M Lammerse
By M Lammerse (3 months ago)

No complains here in Japan.

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KewlEugene
By KewlEugene (3 months ago)

Examine any centralized news organization and there are layers upon layers of managers, editors, politicians, and lawyers denying free expression unbeknownst to the public. This secretiveness is passe and has been rejected by mankind. The information market has beat down those who cannot compete in an open world. The dying traditional media companies are merging together desperate for the last bubble of air as they rapidly sink on a torpedoed ship. Journalists have to re-learn their craft with video, still, graphics, words, and social media. Then reappear in the workforce sans centralized editorial, advertiser, and government censorship -- free to compose, create, and submit their works to mankind. Otherwise journalists will not be able to compete in the information marketplace alongside billions of social media contributors.

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rfsIII
By rfsIII (3 months ago)

Unfortunately, those "centralized news organizations" are the only institution left that still has the resources, technology, and (dwindling) prestige to expose business and government when they work to oppress the citizenry. When the big news organizations are gone, we the people will live under the iron boot heel of a tyranny unparalleled in this or any other century.

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Censorship USA
By Censorship USA (3 months ago)

Nope. In the U.S. in particular there is little freedom of the press. Newspapers must support the government or be prosecuted as terrorists.

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

I am much more afraid of the NSA and search engine censorship than I am worried about Reuters.

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

Ritchin makes a crucial point which is that we need more "metaphotographers" or curators who can assign meaning or make sense out of all the pictures that are gathered around events. More and more finding meaningful images is the most crucial task - every bit as important as making them. The filtering process is what creates meaning for news and events disseminated online.

Pictures and cameras are cheap now and no one cares much about the gear, although I think a journalist working a violent demonstration might find an iPhone a little safer to use than a big dslr.

We are all data managers now but some data managers are more equal than others.

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (3 months ago)

"...A journalist working a violent demonstration might find an iPhone a little safer to use than a big dslr".
So that we'd all be able to see a blurry, imperceptible image of the demonstration. Well thought!

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

Cell phone images and compact point and shoot cameras have been the source of many of the seminal images of the last decade - Abu Ghraib prison, or the images of Theo Van Gogh's murder are cases in point. These tools are getting better and it is hard to find a citizen without a camera on their person anymore. Some photographers (in addition to being there during the decisive moments) are pretty good at it and news agencies are happy to use their - very newsworthy - images. Much of the work made by professional photographers today can be described as photo illustration.

IE: The image by Karady used as the lead image for this article is a montage which is very similar in concept and execution to a series called "bringing the war home" done by Martha Rosler in the 1970's.

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justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

Agh... The quality of journalism is going to he'll in a hand basket. Fred Ritchin is not spelled "Richin"

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (3 months ago)

And hell is not spelled "he'll" either. Otherwise I agree with you.

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VainGlorious
By VainGlorious (3 months ago)

The centralized media model is a thing of the past. Cliche photography of pre-authorized subjects, which has been cleared and approved by higher-ups, are old, boring, and to put it mildly, a joke. A while back, technology empowered us. There's no going back. We are free.

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

LOL. Yes, taking pictures and getting them to the world used to be so difficult and it never happened. How did that picture of Tiananmen Square make it out of China? The one with the dude in front of the tanks? Repressive regimes can shut down cell networks and the internet and pictures will still come out of the country. Technology has been just as repressive as it has been freeing. We are more a slave to technology and more out of touch with other humans than ever.
You can be tracked by using your cell phone and your conversations can easily be recorded by the government or somebody nearby with some smarts and a couple of hundred bucks worth of equipment. People post their lives on Facebook and then preach about privacy like they still have any. We give away our lives to marketers in exchange for "free" services. Don't be naïve.

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utomo99
By utomo99 (3 months ago)

It is better if the camera now have Wifi or 3G connection, and easy way to upload to social media.
also in camera editing/ effect

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Nikonworks
By Nikonworks (3 months ago)

As a photojournalist I feel Rush Limbaugh said it best regarding Newspapers:
Para phrase " They are going out of business due to bad business decisions, not incoming technology ".

Didn't one of the wealthiest businessman on the planet recently buy a string of 'Local' Newspapers?.

Remember this: Anyone attending a New York Philharmonic performance can know when a musical 'error' takes place, even though the listener may have no knowledge of 'Music'.

It is the same with Photojournalism. People know a good image when they see it. Whether captured by a 'Pro" or a 'Consumer'.

I produce on a continuous basis images that are 'good'.

The editors can not drum up enough 'Good' 'Consumer' pics to fill the paper on a continuous basis. There are only so many newsworthy moments and not every "Consumer' photographer knows how to capture the moment.

It takes 'Good' pictures to get the readers to buy the paper on a regular basis.

One reason why they do is my newspaper publishes my pictures.

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VainGlorious
By VainGlorious (3 months ago)

The magic of social media can be seen daily. Asiana 214 coverage was initiated and continues to be led on social media. The Trayon Martin murder trial, Syria, Libya, Egypt, US Occupied Palestine, Afghanistan, etc. are all led by social media as well. Centralized media organizations are trailing social media and falling further behind.

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

Coverage. Information. I guess if you need a picture and don't have any other choice a smartphone is better than nothing. And being right in the crowd can be a perfectly legitimate and meaningful way to communicate a story. There are many times a skilled photographer is also needed. Competition for telling a story doesn't mean that one has to make the other obsolete or, in fact, is even capable of making the other obsolete.

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (3 months ago)

It's all nice and well filtering interviews that show the current state of affairs under a benign light. Of course this 'citizen journalism' thing sounds pretty cool, but ultimately is just a pile of BS - the kind of BS CEOs like to impinge on us so we can accept the high unemplyment rates (in contrast with their obscene remunerations).
Unemployment is not an abstraction, nor something that only happens outside our door. Does anybody here know what it means to be unemployed? Did anybody here experience the despair of having kids to feed and having to let them go to school without a proper meal? Or facing the day you'll have to pay the rent or mortgage and having no money? Well, this happens in the real world, outside this shell made of cell phones that take "professional quality' (gasp!) pics and apps.
It is a serious matter. The fact that photojournalists endorse or mitigate it doesn't make it any better or more acceptable.
Sometimes we should give these matters some serious thought.

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jkoch2
By jkoch2 (3 months ago)

Nonsense. The jobs disappeared because readers, viewers, and advertisers migrated to digital and online media, where photo supply is abundant and costs are low. Traditional photo journalists were a closed shop and entry was never an easy thing. Don't blame CEOS. Blame your own and everyone else's willful behavior.

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (3 months ago)

Jkoch2, I'm sorry but the nonsense is on you. Your reply is typical of a superficial, short-sighted person who refuses to think beyond appearances. I'm sorry you think that way.
And that remark about 'willful behavior' is just silly and pathetic.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

ManuelVilardeMacedo, if you have a moment could you explain slowly for those of us that are silly and pathetic how reducing CEO salaries will make photojournalists relevant?

The issue isn't how much the guy at the top earns; it's that nobody needs the old-style "photojournalism" model any more.

Charioteers faced the same problem. I suspect some became chauffers. Then chauffers also faced the same problem: relevance.

There are still chauffers but guess what? Their bosses tend to make lots of money...

I can't think of a crisis in any context where somebody in a panicked crowd cried out, "Quickly!!! IS THERE A PHOTOJOURNALIST IN THE HOUSE?!?!?"

The issue is relevance. The market, the audience, and the tech have all migrated onto other things.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (3 months ago)

Don't get me wrong; in many ways I too regret some of the changes. I'm even a fan of "Animal" from "Lou Grant!" (Somewhat older readers might know the photojournalistto whom I am referring...).

I HATE reading stories about people losing their jobs. I HATE seeing people struggling to make ends meet. I HATE seeing people in need. However I think the photo market today is different. I don't blame the top or the bottom. Things just change.

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (3 months ago)

Rallyfan, I don't believe you care a lot for anything you've mentioned in your last paragraph.
Besides, where exactly did I mention anything about reducing CEOs salaries? You're extrapolating - and you've completely missed my point.
I'll give you one friendly advice: stick to discussing gear and leave social and political issues to adults who have had their share of experience and know life.

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VainGlorious
By VainGlorious (3 months ago)

I don't understand why the word "Survive" is used in the referenced article. Instagram, Vine, Facebook, Twitter and social media are in the process of REPLACING centralized media organizations which today number in the 100s to 1000s eliminating archaic rules for *authorized* journalism. Social Media will further spawn new models, roles, and organizations which we cannot imagine today.

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Doug Pardee
By Doug Pardee (3 months ago)

Asked about "video supplanting photography", he says, "A non-linear narrative that allows for increased complexity and depth, and encourages both subject and reader to have greater involvement, will eventually emerge more fully from the digital environment. This, in a sense, is the more profound democratization of media."

Whatever that means.

I think video is the real threat to the traditional photojournalist, not citizens. Still photography will eventually join B&W on the sidelines. The question is how long it'll take until that happens.

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MichaelRChan
By MichaelRChan (3 months ago)

> the excessive sacrifice of journalistic quality and integrity the other organizations will be guilty of.

What the heck does that even mean?

People have recorded moments for tens of thousands of years, by way of painting and writing. That is what people do: they witness and participate, and record it with the materials at hand.

Very recently, people invented a way to do it with images that are light reflections captured chemically that augment the writing and drawing. In a very short period of time relative to chemical image capture, it has become affordable and omnipresent that people can carry imaging devices at all times that capture light reflections. There is no invention or haven of "journalism integrity" to be found in these recent amalgamations that can stockpile imagery.

Within the next 20 years, it will likely be possible to record every moment in a person's life (GoPro on your hip) and do it affordably. Filter that through any concept of "true photojournalism."

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Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (3 months ago)

I'm 60 years old.
Print journalism is dead. Photojournalism will soldier on with paradigm shifts, as will written journalism, but not newspapers...

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

Let's see, what else is dead? Vinyl? No. Audio cassettes? No. VHS? Maybe. Laser disc? Yeah. HD-DVD? Definitely. Film? Not yet. Is my office paperless after years of promises that paper was dead? Not even close. You're 60 years old. You should know better. The only things that are dead or effectively dead are formats that never really caught on in the first place. As they say, the old tricks are the best tricks.

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Mark B.
By Mark B. (3 months ago)

Vinyl, audio tapes, VHS, laser disc, film are all dead in the mass market. I can't remember the last time I saw blank audiotape. Vinyl and film still have a small niche market, but will never enjoy the market they once had.

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Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (3 months ago)

dead, but not buried? ;)
We both know better, Right?

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (3 months ago)

Howard, you forgot to mention CD. It may not be quite dead yet, but it isn't moving much anyway. You could also have added SACD and DVD-Audio, the audiophile formats of the early 2000s.

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

The audio cassette is huge in many other countries. Vinyl is seeing a huge resurgence of popularity and demand. CD's compete with downloads but are by no means dead, nor are DVD's or Blu Rays. The only thing that happens to markets is increased diversity. Very rarely does a format become truly dead. And print is still huge, but with a marketplace constantly adding new formats there is going to be one with demand going up and another going down. Just because you don't see everything at your local electronics store doesn't mean it isn't out there.

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

True photojournalism has to maintain very strict standards to avoid accusations of sensationalism or deception that invariably arise if anything other than white balance of a photo is corrected. So now we're to believe that the public wants to see Instagram shots from random bystanders in a newspaper? Instagram filters alter reality to the point that the photo can no longer be called unaltered or realistic or anything other than an artistic interpretation, and people with smartphones usually get snapshots.
Perhaps photojournalists do need to innovate, but the true responsibility for innovation sits squarely in the laps of a paper's management. Maybe enough papers will cut the wrong things that those who stick to their guns and find novel ways to monetize their product, both hard copy and their online presence, will have all the demand coming from people not willing to put up with the excessive sacrifice of journalistic quality and integrity the other organizations will be guilty of.

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Hugo808
By Hugo808 (3 months ago)

I think that cheapskate editors will go with the instagram stuff until people start complaining it was better, both artistically and journalistically, when pro's were doing it.

i predict we will see the return of the Don McCullins before long...

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Houseqatz
By Houseqatz (3 months ago)

hrm, people with smartphones, and some talent..

i think professional photojournalists have to do two things.. first prove that it isn't the equipment, but the years of shooting experience, and training.. second, demonstrate why the equipment enables them to get the shots that no mobile device can get..

also, the public has to want a higher quality of work, than an untrained citizen journalist, THAT falls upon the editor to learn what to deliver, and whom to get their images from..

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Photomonkey
By Photomonkey (3 months ago)

Why will they complain? They aren't reading anyway.

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Carl GS
By Carl GS (3 months ago)

.....And bona-fide journalists will always have an advantage
because they are PROFESSIONALS. The LEICA revolutionized
photojournalisim. A tool is a tool. NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
has a pocket-sized book on Cell Phone photography. The new
MINOX spy camera?

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jkoch2
By jkoch2 (3 months ago)

Photojournalsts "need to" or "must"?

How can mendicants be chosers or regulators?

Honor among beggars?

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chj
By chj (3 months ago)

For many instances of photojournalism, being in the right place at the right timeis much more important than whether or not it was instagrammed. This forum is obsessed with pixel level "quality" but photojournalism is about events not pixels. Even the most seasoned photographer, with a "nose" for being in the right place at the right time, cannot compete with the fact that everyone has a phone camera everywhere, at all times.

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howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

chj, you still have to have an eye for what to photograph and skill and artistic talent can't be replaced by scale. Oh, it is much more likely now that there will be a good picture come from someone who is there with their smartphone, but there are plenty of cases where you do actually need good equipment. Pixel level quality isn't at issue, it is equipment quality. Pixels play a role of course, but pretending a pinhole camera is good enough for any photography application is the same as pretending a cell phone is good for anything and everything. You don't get to reduce the opposing argument to absurd clichés and then disprove only the stupidest version of the argument. Instagram itself is of no use to photojournalism, but a camera in the right hands is. A vast majority of people who have a camera in their hands don't have a clue how to take an image with impact...but they could of course get lucky. If papers want to take their chances, we'll see how things go for them.

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artlmntl
By artlmntl (3 months ago)

I think this has nothing to do with what the public wants to see. It has everything to do with what our media outlets want to show us.

The media outlets don't really want to show us well-conceived documentation of events. They want to show us editorially biased interpretations of whatever they choose to present. And they want to do it as cheaply as possible.

The pendulum may swing in the other direction if/when this doesn't work, but the few remaining photojournalists will be forced to do their work for less money as there will still be an army of amateurs willing to do the same work at lower quality for nothing. So much for the value of being an educated professional.

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Stadleroux
By Stadleroux (3 months ago)

Neil Postman's comments about the immediacy of the media in his book "Amusing Ourselves to Death" are just becoming more and more relevant, almost with every event depicted in the media, and he was just focusing on TV!! He was SO right, but not in a million years, I think, could he have foreseen where we would be today in this regard... :-/

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