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French student creates SLR using 3D printer

Jul 8, 2013 at 19:43:15 GMT

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We normally don't cover film cameras on DPReview, but this one's too cool to pass up. Twenty-four year old Léo Marius has created a 35mm film SLR using a 3D printer, complete with a viewfinder and compatibility for any lens mount (once the appropriate mount is created and attached, of course). The camera has a fixed 1/60 second shutter speed, which is activated by a rather large release button. The camera isn't available for sale, but Marius provides instructions for creating your own - and hints at possibly crowd-sourcing it at some point.

The front of the camera shows a Nikkor 50mm lens attached. This home-brewed camera allows you to use the lens mount of your choice.

[Photo: Léo Marius]


This top-down view gives you a look at the optical viewfinder and attached Nikkor lens. [Photo: Léo Marius]	Here you can see the advance lever, a slider for cocking the shutter, and the large shutter release button. [Photo: Léo Marius]

More details about the project - and how to create one of your own - are available here.

(Instructables via Cult of Mac)

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Zut alors!

C'est impressionnant.

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Cool. Frankencamera.

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Unfortunately some of us are missing the point entirely.

This is a student doing a project. It's a start for crying out loud.

Who knows, maybe after getting hired by some entity like Canon, and after some years of experience, he may be the inventor of the next generation of digital cameras.

Perhaps he'll be the one to make digital Medium format affordable to the rest of us.

Give him a word of encouragement, if you have EVER encouraged anyone, other than your selfish self!

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I can see someone trying to do this as a fun, geeky exercise. Crowd sourcing ? You can buy a used SLR that's not limited to 1/60s for $20 on eBay. My daughter picked up an Olympus SLR with a 50/1.8 lens for me at a yard sale for $5. Using this amazing new technology to recreate inferior versions of things that we have in (over)abundance seems like a waste of time, technology and natural resources.

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I think you have missed the point entirely, Dennis.

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I think this may be revolutionary. As photographers, we are used to be limited by the gears. Just imagine what will happen if this restriction is lifted? Can we create impressionist-style photo?
I think this type of camera can be truly "personal", and the artist can design a tool that fit his imagination. No doubt this requires great efforts. But masterpiece always does.

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No need to print a whole camera! Just LENS CAPS!!! This is a revolution!

Lost a lens cap? No problemo! Just print a new one!

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I am thinking customized grips perfect for the owner's anatomy, for cameras and sporting equipment.

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great article, i am sure soon they print mediumformat censors and the latest printable AF system, not even mention that it will cost less than a dollar coz i can print the notes

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I'd buy that for a dollar

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http://www.instructables.com/id/3D-Printed-Camera-OpenReflex/?ALLSTEPS
is the site with building instructions. The guy is Belgian and looking for a job.
Anyway: bravo!

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What a contradiction in technology. Super advanced 3D printed produces an obsolete FILM camera. Is this technology trying to invent a solution for something we don't need. Clearly we must add it to the new UK Gove style national curriculum.

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Well, I don't need the hundreds of Eiffel Tower replicas that 3D printers usually spit out either... not sure why film cameras need to be considered "obsolete", they are far simpler devices but that can be an advantage at times.

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@jadedgamer:
I agree that a simpler system can be beneficial sometimes, if not often times!
I still LOVE my Canon T90s (all 3 of them), and the long line of Canon FD lenses that go with them, although I have a 5D and a number of EF, L, lenses (quite heavy).
The biggest disadvantage of film is that you pay for good or bad shots, and of course the limited number of exposures on a 35mm roll.

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I think my FM3a looks a lot nicer.

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Next we need a 3D printer to produce 3D images :)
Could be interesting to print 3D portrait busts with color.

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This must be printed by $1000 cheap 3D printer.

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What I'd like to see is a 3D printer with the ability to input a holographic image, and create a tangible output. Then every home and museum could have inexpensive copies of the finest sculpture from throughout history.

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Yeah, it'd be wonderful to have a "David" made of plastic resin in the middle of your living room!

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You could design and 'print' the Venus de Milo with arms of your choosing. Maybe have her cradling a football. Isn't technology grand?

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Beautiful job and an ingenious approach. Here is a person actually doing something creative.
Kudos.

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The 3D plastic gun a guy made looked a lot cleaner. I thought the whole idea of 3D printing was to be able to print things impossible to machine in one piece? Like a hollow ball, that kind of thing. The whole body could have been printed as one piece (except the back) yet this one looks like it has been printed in pieces and bolted together.

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This is consumer level printing, which still is in its infancy.
So don't expect super accurate results, unless you pay for high-end models.

The guys printing the gun(parts) probably used an extremely accurate high-end printer.

A list of available options :
http://www.additive3d.com/3dpr_cht.htm

I think it's comparable to the early dot matrix colour printers.

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I can see hipster d-bags thinking this is way better than anything the mainsteam manufacturers can come up with.

Kidding aside, if I were kidding, this is a cool exercise in DIY engineering. Credit to Mr. Marius! But that's about it.

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I'll get the trolling out of the way so the usual suspects can just STFU.

Yeah, but how many megapixels is it? The ergonomics are awful. No articulated screen? I'm not buying it without the flippy screen! This camera is digital how? See, Nikon's 3D printed camera is better than Canon's! Just wait until we see Canon's response! How many AF points does it have? Are the AF points all cross type? Hey, where is green box mode? MY DIGITAL PRINTED CAMERA MISSED FOCUS!!! I'm KIDDING HERE FOLKS!!!

Okay, now that the BS is out of the way, I think that this camera is really cool. This is a great alternative for the Holga-wielding crowd because with the interchangable mount you can take advantage of any brand lens you might find at yard sales, pawn shops or thrift stores. :)

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At some point in time we'll have replicators, Star Trek style...
3D printing will do for the time being :-)

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there are actually people laughing about this??

this guy designed and 3d printed his own camera.

cant believe how stupid people are, in a camera forum! and its about a guy that 3d prints his own camera and he gets laughter

relly i cant believe this, i must be daydreaming hehe

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I think the camera is really neat. I am surprised the fit and finish isn't any better. I'm not criticizing the designer when I say this, but the printer manufacturer

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3d printing has been around quite awhile - computer controlled machine tools have continued to evolve for a few generations. Expensive gear if you wanna buy it though . . . The camera is clever as a chassis, but glass lenses, front surface mirrors , film , springs and precisely machined alloy parts .... well they do not come in stuff that can be layered from a roll of material that fits in these rigs.

The camera, like the gun or a 3d printer printing itself are clever ironic uses - and maybe that is their function - ti inspire someone to pick up the challenge and find a more appropriate use. Architectural models and design mock ups do not count.

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what for? I am sorry but I do not understand that so popular idea of making everything on 3D printers, I hope this will be absolutely not possible to make a human being using 3D printer... Once again sorry for my criticism but I will never not understand those ideas... just to make sth for nothing.

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yeah like people in medieval europe didn't understand the need for a lot of things ;)..

Honestly, the 3D printing technology can offer a LOT of beneficial things. There's already a few cases where parents of special needs children use it to 3D Print special prosthetics & stuff like that, that an orthopedic surgeon 3D-Designs. They can print it at home, have it modified in hours - without travelling sometimes for hours to go to the specifc doc just to get the thing.

Just one example where 3D Printing at home (using a rather high end printer though) is useful.

The technology (whilst about 20-30 years old) is just starting to become more accessible... and it's going to be a good thing I guess.

A human being? well most certainly not - but the technolgy has promising aspect in medical application, for example "bio-printing":
http://phys.org/news/2013-03-3d-printer-bio-ink-human-video.html

I mean if this is not simply AWESOME...

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If I had a 3D printer I'd be able to make replacement plastic parts for various items around the house, including my friend's son's toys. Think about it - you crack the battery cover for your AV receiver or blu-ray remote control and you have to use a hack solution like tape because the manufacturer doesn't make that remote any more, or you can print a brand new battery cover and fix it right.

Your kid broke a piece of trim in your car and the stealership can't/won't order it, and you want it fixed. Print a new panel!

When 3D scanning and modeling become more accessible I'll definitely be playing with this tech.

So yes, I think that both this camera and the 3D printed gun are really cool exhibitions of what can be done with these things. :-)

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Why?

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why not?

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because for people like us the journey itself is often more interesting than the destination.

it's in the designing and building that fun can be had.

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Cool Project ;)
I though wonder about a few technical design decisions (placement of film-rolls, angle at the lenes mount,...) but it's quite cool..

But to those who think how "easy" it will be to do lens-mount adapters and such stuff at home:
- You need to learn 3D Modelling (and I'm not talking about the easy stuff).
- You need a VERY precise printer (the ones available sub 3000$ aren't really cutting it for parts where precision is important
- You need 3D Cad Software (preferrably parametric and if you want to design assembled/assembled printed parts, the CAD System needs to handle assmeblies): Cost from 1500-12'000$

So besides the time and effort to learn all things like 3D CAD drawing,...

Your initial investment at the moment for a halfway decent setup would be easily 5k+$
15k$-30k$ - more likely for more "professional" output results (printers who can handle different material output within the same print model, thus makeing separating, fitting parts)

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For the 3D modelling and the CAD software, Open Source can help.

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Old folks in here are grabbing for their oxygen tubes because this' looks different'.

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As a person that is permanently on supplemental O2, because of contracting H1N1 and getting severe pneumonia, I find your comment to be extremely offensive. Flagged.

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Now I DO admire this man's effort. Of course it won't look polished, but at least he's trying to CREATE something instead of sipping coffee at a keyboard and shooting other people's ideas down without creating anything himself. Cough.

But I have one genuine question. Looking at the shape of the film chamber, I can't help but feel the film would be inserted backwards? Carrier side to the lens, not emulsion side to the lens?

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You did not read the article. Take the time, clue, step 7 shows the film canister installed.

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Racenviper, you aren't required to answer questions. If you choose to answer questions, you aren't required to answer them in a civil way.

Either are up to you.

However, choosing to do the first while setting the second aside really doesn't enhance your image for the majority of people reading your reply.

Do you want to play to the people that find your comment inappropriate or do you want to play to the people that will snigger along with you ?

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Blah Blah Blah.

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Just in terms of materials I wonder how much it would cost to print something like that?
I mean when you already have the design.

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It is not about saving money, the camera is probably much worse than a disposable one and is considerably more expensive to make, especially if you take the time spent, plus initial printer costs into account as well. Such activity is not justifyable if costs are the issue.

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This seems to be a "proof of principle" experiment....
Question: Can we make a film camera with a 3D printer.
Answer: Yes.

No other factors like cost effectiveness have been taken into account.

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If you follow the link to his page, he has a summary of the materials used, amounts to about 25-35 Euros, depending on where you buy.

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Plus $3,000 for the printer, plus the time to learn CAD PLUS the cost to purchase a CAD package if FreeCAD (see http://www.freecadweb.org/ ) doesn't cut it for you.

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3D printing is the new technical revolution, and this is again a wonderful example of it.

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Well, it isn't really new... been around for about 30 years now. First time I came across was in the mid 1980's, but it is becoming affordable for more people now.

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@Olyflyer, I know it is for some time around, I had to photograph one at Philips in Eindhoven in 2003 it might have the same effect on society as the industrial revolution, which took about 80 years.
We're just at the beginning, and I think it will have a huge impact on society. From printed camera's to food and body parts in the not too far future.

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There's more to making something than just spitting plastic out in the same shape. Don't hold your breath waiting for 3D printing to revolutionize the industrial world. It's taken 30 years just to get noticed by people, and it still does little more than produce brittle parts usable for little more than fitup.

There's a reason why industry has invented hundreds of different production methods for different types of materials, and it isn't because they lacked a device that spit out hot blobs of ABS plastic.

-Suntan

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Suntan, 3D printing will not remain as it is now. And it's definitely not about spitting plastic. It really is a revolution in that it already proves capable to replace (some of) the exact same sophisticated production technologies you mention. You do know that they are already making complex machinery parts using industrial 3D printers, don't you?

Just consider these quotes:

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
(Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943)

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." (Ken Olsen, founder of DEC, 1977)

Of course, at the time computers were huge and expensive. In your words, they were spitting plastic.

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Suntan, 3D printers have been used for some time now and what is new is the fact that they start to become commercially available for "ordinary" people. Yes, the products you can make at home are not the quality you can get from industrial production, but it is going to improve just like ordinary printers improved over the years. Never the less, I am not convinced that it can be compared with computer developments. I don't think everyone will have use for one and I don't think it will replace industrial production. It is very useful for model and prototype making and other very low volume production, but most people don't have use for such thing in their every day life. Also, if one needs precision then the cheap ones won't do, so the currently available commercial 3D printers are just expensive toys which one can use for learning and experimenting.

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I doubt that technical limitations will stop it from becoming popular.

The real problem is similar to the one that the media industry faced when digital media became available and reproduction of the source material wasn't limited to expensive machines.

The fact that those dinosaurs are still fighting the digital revolution is enough proof.
Things like copyright and patents will need to be changed.

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Can anybody still afford actual film? Prices must be through the roof by now...

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Nah, it's still easy to get for reasonable prices but it depends on where you live, as is with all things.

to give a simple to understand example: I can't buy directly a camel in NY, but I can in Egypt. I can't buy film in Zevenhuizen, but I can easily buy it here in Osaka (and many many kinds for normal prices)

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There's still plenty of the cheapy color Fujifilm, and the Kodak ProFoto or Gold are plenty and dirt cheap, the prices of their higher end film has significantly risen though

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Absolutelly! I still actively shoot both 35mm and medium format film. In the case of medium format, it ends up being MUCH cheaper than the digital alternative. A grand will get you a quality camera.

How we film shooters "survive" is also how we tend to take less photos, but carefully pick which ones we do take, make sure they're extra worth it. We're not going to take 200 film photos at some birthday party. Maybe a couple, then take the rest in digital.

$7 for a 36 roll of kodak Ektar
$6-7 for straight developpement (no prints or CD)
one-time $200-300 for a decent Epson or Canon scanner that'll do film
one-time $100 for a copy of Silverfast (scanning software for film)

Whether it's more expensive than digital or not entirely depends on how crucial full-frame is to you, how often you tend to replace your digital gear (film gear lasts far longer, with CLA), and how many photos you tend to take that would be worth putting on film.

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Also, if you shoot in black and white, you can save huge by getting big film spools and refilling the normal 35mm spool yourself (much cheaper- per photo) and developping it yourself. Black&white does not need a dark room or many chemicals. I've developped it with my hands inside a black plastic garbage bag and a little $25 kit.

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Bacteria, if they only knew how pleasant it s to shoot with a good SLR...!

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These comments are despicable, a lot of you should be very ashamed of yourselves.

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Well done Léo. This is a great attempt and deserves praise.

The people below who are laughing about quality have obviously never used 3D design software and have no idea of the difficulty in modelling an object that will 'print' correctly using current 3D printing technology.

This camera took a lot of work to create - it reminds me of the old bulk film backs that could be attached to top-end film SLRs to let the pros take more than 36 shots before reloading ;-)

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Exactly. I don't understand the negativity and sarcasm below, which only exhibits the stupidity of those people. Carry on Léo, don't let the negative attitude of some people kill your interest.

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Cool project... for those who can think outside the box.

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Maybe one day we could even print photos?

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This dude is already way ahead of Pentax.

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In what way?

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Just kidding Matt

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the next big thing is to print lenses.

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I guess Sony already prints some kit lenses for its NEX system...

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No need. Those gorgeous pre-Ais can be found for not much money and only take 5 mins to modify.

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Canon does the same with EOS-M ))

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Nothing wrong with my EF-M lenses...in fact, following my own testing, they'll probably be replacing my FF gear, depending on how the new 11-22mm works out.

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the printer that Canon use to print 22/2 looks better
than the one Sony use to print 24/1.8.

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I suppose this technology holds out the possibility of a future where everyman can be his own technological innovator, product designer and fabricator. "If you can imagine it, you can make it!"

Wow.

Then, I'm reminded of the wide variation people exhibit in matters of talent, technical savvy and, most of all, taste. After all, someone at some time thought the '91 Chevy Caprice, Pontiac Aztek, Nissan Cube, Toyota Echo and VW Thing were really cool-looking vehicle designs. The mind boggles.

Maybe this capability will work out well overall. I'm making a good-faith effort not to scoff and reject the new and different out of hand. Looking at Marius' interesting but aesthetically challenged camera effort, this is going to take a lot of good-faith effort. ;)

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Actually the first 3D printer was developed in 1984 by 3D Systems. But it was real expensive. They are currently used in more than a dozen industries including things as varied as architecture and dentistry.

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Im pretty sure they mean cheap basic 3d printers available for the public.

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Very cool sir

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No strap....that's a deal breaker

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3D printing should have come about in the 1990's, with all the other high-tech cons that appeared and then bankrupted investors.

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Where's the article about the 3d printed SLR? All I'm seeing here is a chunk of plastic with real camera parts shoved into/onto it.

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once 3D printer becomes more price-friendly, then we can create our own accessories.. lens mount adapter, step-rings, etc.

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3D printing...not ready for prime time.

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At least it looks better than the Hasselblad Lunar.

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Ouch! :-D

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LOL....

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Is not difficult, everything looks better than Hasselblad Lunar.

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You can now buy a Sony NEX and print your own Hasselblad Lunar cover to stick on it... hmm, but then remove it and just keep it as a proper NEX.

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This is interesting:
"compatibility for any lens mount (once the appropriate mount is created and attached"

So we could print lens adapters to use any lens on any camera (flange distance permitting) for just a few pence/cents, rather than the hundreds of £££ of the official adapters... obviously just in manual mode, but no complain for so little money...

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Id still rather get cheapo adapters made im china from ebay. Wont have to deal with the hassle of a 3d printer incase anything goes wronh and it will be of better build.

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Yes, in principal you can print any mount (or almost anything you like). A 3D printer is like a CNC mill, just the opposite, instead of removing unwanted material it "prints" the wanted part only, sort of builds up layer by layer. The disadvantage is that the material is plastic and that the plastic is not as durable as the best quality plastic you can mill and very far from metal. Another disadvantage is that the precision isn't as good as a milled or molded adapter. In other words, while it sounds like great fun, it can not really replace other type of manufacturing and the created adapters aren't really an alternative to the expensive, all metal types with high precision.

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I guess that's the principle used for the T2 adapters that e.g. Samyang/Rokinon use for some of their lenses; except those adapters are metal instead of 3D-printer-plastic.

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Actually Olyflyer,
You can print in metal, plastic and ceramic to name a number of materials. They use a number of alloys for 3d printing in metals for medical purposes among others. And the plastics use in Laser Sintering for example are just as strong a molded.

Things have clearly come a long way since you looked into this industry.

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By all means. Mount your Nikkor 200 f2 to your Canon EOS C100 cinema camera with 25 cents worth of abs plastic...

-Suntan

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Well, my thoughts were more about mounting one of those very cheap Canon/Nikon lens like the 50mm F1.8 (£80 new), or some other old film/used/half broken cheap lens, on a Micro Four Thirds camera... :)

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Beautiful work of art.............. wonder how long than took to print - ideas anybody??

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check this post http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:113865
it says that 15 h to print the parts (to be assembled)

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Well, this pretty much sums up the technical capability of France; wine, cheese, the Citroen and Renault, blowing up beautiful pacific islands with atomic bombs, and now this.

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Didn't you hear about the Bikini Islands? USA really made it's best to destroy that part of the world completely and it didn't even belong to them before they started to blow up the territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_Atoll

I am pretty sure you are an intelligent man but you comment about this French hobby project did not reflect that.

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LOL, pwned!
Anyway now we got the other meaning of bikini - I kind of like that item when used right.

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In France, they use 3D printer to make a camera, in America, they use it to make guns :)
Oh, and America bombing Irak, Iran, Koweit, Afganisthan, chase snowden around the world, listen to every people mail and talk, may i continue ?
France make TGV, concorde, airbus and we don't drive 2CV with a beret and a bottle of wine ;)

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Spidermoon, don't worry. Narrow minded people make narrow minded comments, especially if they don't even bother to attend history lessons (or are brain washed and uneducated).

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Er... Hiroshima and Nagasaki... was it the french?
I just love to read comments from ignorant, xenophobic hillbillies. At least this one knows Citroën and Renault (but probably not Facel Vega and Bugatti).

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My Arca Swiss D4 geared head is made in France...it's one of the best engineered heads on the market (& the lightest).

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spidermoon: you win. TGV is fantastic! We should have high-speed electro-gravitational rail all across the USA. Instead the USA wastes billions on blowing things up and research on how to better blow things up. I apologize for my original comment which was a poor attempt at sattire. As my grandmother used to say, don't criticize others when you can't keep your own porch swept off.

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@Valiant Thor
Congrats on the dumbest thread of the day ! Are you proud of your ignorance ?

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@IZO100
Can't be that bad. It attracted an equally dumb post from you.

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Isn't this guy Belgian? - not French?

BTW - @Valiant Thor - hats off for the apology, a very rare thing on here.....

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Looks like a turd with a lens attached

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The animal from which that camera issued must see a doctor.

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Next thing you know, 3D printers will be printing more 3D printers!

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This has already happened -- in 2010! http://www.geekosystem.com/3d-printer-prints-itself/

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Yeah that's clever, but can he 3D print the 2D photos that his 3D printed camera takes?

m(__)m

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