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Fujifilm introduces XF 27mm F2.8 'pancake' lens

By dpreview staff on Jun 25, 2013 at 01:00 GMT
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Fujifilm has introduced the XF 27mm F2.8, a compact 'pancake' lens for its X-system cameras. It's just 23mm thick and weighs only 78g, making it by far the smallest X-mount lens. This means there's no space for an aperture ring, so X-Pro1 and X-E1 owners will need to update their firmware to allow aperture setting from the camera's rear control dial. It'll be available in either black or silver, at an MSRP of $449.95.

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Press Release:

FUJIFILM expands the lineup of X Mount interchangeable lenses

FUJINON XF 27mm F2.8

A highly portable high-performance single focal length lens for casual shooting with quality results

FUJIFILM Corporation (President: Shigehiro Nakajima) is proud to announce the launch of the new "FUJINON XF27mmF2.8" lens for the FUJIFILM X-Pro1 and X-E1 compact system cameras.

FUJINON XF lenses are the pinnacle of Fujifilm's optical design technology, with top quality all-glass construction including aspherical lens elements. Their fast f-stop broadens users' scope of photographic expression for low-light photography and scenes with a beautiful bokeh effect. In addition, FUJINON's "HT-EBC Coating" reduces reflection at a wider range of wavelengths, thereby controlling ghosting. The lenses feature advanced lens engineering, capable of drawing the maximum performance out of the highly-descriptive "X-Trans CMOS Sensor" in the FUJIFILM X-Pro1 and X-E1 cameras.

The FUJINON XF27mmF2.8 is a compact and lightweight lens for excellent portability. It is a well-balanced, high-performance, single focal length lens, delivering great picture quality in a wide range of scenes including landscapes, snapshots and portraits.

High-performance lens that offers a field of view similar to that of the human eye, covering a wide range of scene types

The lens has a fixed focal length of 27mm (41mm in 35mm format equivalent), offering a field of view similar to that of the human eye, capturing each scene as precisely and naturally as you see it.  It includes a glass moulded aspheric element which reduces image distortion as much as possible.  You can explore different ideas dependent on the scene you’re shooting, e.g. using your own footwork to adjust the distance between yourself and your subject, or by changing the shooting angle, enabling you to enjoy a broad range of photography.

Lightweight and compact

Weighing 78g and measuring 23mm in length, this is one of the smallest and lightest single focal length lenses available for APS-sensor mirrorless cameras.  Its thin form factor keeps the camera compact when mounted, encouraging you to take your camera wherever you go.

Outstanding resolving power for sharp and clear images

The advanced optical design is coupled with FUJINON’s proprietory HT-EBC Coating that brings a large amount of light onto the camera sensor to draw the maximum performance out of the X-Trans sensor, thus achieving outstanding resolving power for sharp and clear images.

High-speed autofocus

The lens incorporates an autofocus design that uses a high-torque coreless DC motor to shift all of the front lens elements (5 elements in 4 groups) to achieve a fast AF speed.  The quick AF response is one of the fastest amongst single focal length lenses on APS-sensor mirrorless cameras.

Premium-quality focus ring

The high precision focus ring is made of metal, and requires delicate operation during manual focusing.  The materials and the design ensure a comfortable feel and exactly the right amount of torque when rotating the ring.

Bokeh effect for isolating a subject

The use of a seven-blade round diaphragm means your subject is isolated with beautiful bokeh in portraiture with a shallow depth of field, or for close-up photography of stunning dishes or small accessories.

Available in two colours

The 27mm lens will be available two different colours - both silver and black - to allow users to accessorise their X series cameras to their own taste.

[For FUJIFILM X-Pro1 and X-E1 customers]

The FUJINON XF27mmF2.8 lens does not feature an aperture ring in order to keep it compact and lightweight.  When using this lens, please update your camera body’s firmware to enable aperture adjustment via the camera’s command dial.

Fujifilm Global website: http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/

Fujifilm XF 27mm F2.8 specifications

Principal specifications
Lens typePrime lens
Max Format sizeAPS-C / DX
Focal length27 mm
Image stabilisationNo
Lens mountFujifilm X
Aperture
Maximum apertureF2.8
Minimum apertureF16.0
Aperture ringNo
Number of diaphragm blades7
Aperture notesRounded diaphragm
Optics
Elements7
Groups5
Special elements / coatings1 aspherical element
Focus
Minimum focus0.34 m (13.39)
Maximum magnification0.1×
AutofocusYes
Motor typeMicromotor
Full time manualYes
Distance scaleNo
DoF scaleNo
Physical
Weight78 g (0.17 lb)
Diameter61 mm (2.41)
Length23 mm (0.91)
MaterialsMetal barrel, metal mount
ColourBlack, Silver
Filter thread39 mm

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Comments

Total comments: 88
Craigclu
By Craigclu (9 months ago)

I saw a few example shots from Rico (looked good) but haven't seen anything else posted elsewhere. Does anyone have any links to some reviews yet? I've been waiting for this as a nice compact rig on my X-E1 but hesitate pre-ordering without knowing if it's a worthy addition for me.

0 upvotes
g2iSite
By g2iSite (10 months ago)

Maybe a stupid question, but how do you adjust the aperture without an aperture ring on the X bodies?

0 upvotes
tomlianza
By tomlianza (10 months ago)

The X 1 pro allows adjustment from the back of the camera with all lenses with or without a ring. The aperture ring on the lens does nothing but send information back to the camera to set the aperture. If you are in a fixed ISO and you have the Dynamic Range adjustment turned off, you can simply used the buttons on the side of the menu button to move the aperture. This works with all lenses.

1 upvote
bluevellet
By bluevellet (10 months ago)

Always nice to have quality pancakes, but f2.8 is kinda slow.

2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

current prices of lens kits in Japan are
X-M1 body, JPY 67,300,
16-50 kit, JPY 76,300, and
16-50 + 27/2.8 kit, JPY 89,800, so

16-50 = JPY 9,000 = USD 92,
27/2.8 = JPY 13,500 = USD 138,

USD 138 is still a high price for such a lens (no way it worths 100),
but many among us may consider it affordable.

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
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foto guy
By foto guy (10 months ago)

Been waiting for the 40mm to come out. Waiting to see some samples, but now very tempted to invest in Fuji. Also like to see something in the 150mm to 200mm equivalent range.

0 upvotes
km25
By km25 (10 months ago)

This lens looks like a diiferrent offering to the 23mm F1.4, size lens, about the same size a the 14mm F2.8. The X-Pro1 already does well in low light, so F2.8 is usable.
I am just thinking how light and low profile the lens is. The also say AF fast, so maybe good for chrildern photograhy or some action work.
Making this kind of lens is easy, most are sharp. It is wide-normal lens.
For me the down side would be for me my fastest lens would be my 60mm F2.4.
Or my Leica 35mm F1.4 or 90mm F2.8 APO.

0 upvotes
Rexgig0
By Rexgig0 (10 months ago)

Interesting; this lens may be the final push I need to finally open my wallet and acquire a Fuji X-Pro-series camera. While I like the aperture dial to be on the lens, all else being equal, I understand the design constraints for a lens that is this compact.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

It loses a stop to Pana 20/1.7 and Samsung 30/2.0, yet priced higher. Bad value.

8 upvotes
Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (10 months ago)

A lens isn't just its maximum aperture, how does it compare on sharpness etc?

2 upvotes
mgoddard
By mgoddard (10 months ago)

This lens has a 50% larger image circle than the Panasonic and will most certainly have better build quality. I'd say it's priced pretty fairly.

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2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

Fuji 27/2.8 is about 41/4.3 equiv.,
Pana 20/1.7 is about 40/3.4 equiv., 0.7 stops brighter,
Samy 30/2.0 is about 46/3.1 equiv., 1.0 stop brighter.

image circle is less important than aperture size.
the Speed Booster adapter is a good example.

regarding sharpness, this lens got a small glass mold asph element and should perform well for the added cost. don't know how much but shouldn't be much.

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1 upvote
wildbild
By wildbild (10 months ago)

the price is outrageous!
the canon 40mm 2.8 is 179 EUR! and that is FF

4 upvotes
Den Sh
By Den Sh (10 months ago)

20mm f/1.7 is 40mm f/3.4 equiv, and this is 40mm f/4.2. The difference is less than you think it is.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

"how does it compare on sharpness etc?"

20/1.7 is very sharp, I doubt APS-C pancake with the same front element size can do any better.

1 upvote
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

20/1.7 is a so-so compared with other lenses.

it does get high scores against picture height. but we will have to adjust all 4:3 scores down about 6% before we can compare them to 3:2 ones.

(basically we can compare test results from a single camera/setting only)

0 upvotes
BungaBunga
By BungaBunga (10 months ago)

I hope that the XF23mm F1.4 (scheduled for early this year) will come with an aperture ring. I don't like lenses without aperture rings. :-)

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3 upvotes
Bootsy Frost
By Bootsy Frost (10 months ago)

Still, kinda think the silver and black option is cool tho :)

0 upvotes
Bootsy Frost
By Bootsy Frost (10 months ago)

I'm ok with f2.8. I'm more miffed about the elimination of the aperture ring. I would totally deal with a size/cost increase for it to be kept up to spec of the other XF lenses.

1 upvote
calking
By calking (10 months ago)

It is intended to pair with the newer xm body at a lower overall cost. The lens you're waiting for with the aperture ring is the 24mm.

0 upvotes
russmerne
By russmerne (8 months ago)

I agree with previous comments - f2.8 is in fact equivalent to f4 on full frame! Reports also state that the edges are very soft and don't improve with stopping down - the price is ridiculous too! I was looking forward to an affordable sharp and fast pancake from Fuji for my wonderful XE-1 - this is definately not it!!!

0 upvotes
Chris Yates
By Chris Yates (10 months ago)

Makes the 40mm f/2.8 pancake from Canon @ $149 look like it's almost free!!! I am glad Canon is not charging similar prices by putting a red ring around theirs. And Canon's is FF EF, not simply EF-S.
This Fuji is simply overpriced.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

EF40/2.8 is still expensive compared to 50/1.8. EF-M22/2, a 35/3.2 equivalent, is a good lens which is 0.8 stops brighter at half price of this Fijinon, a 41/4.3 equivalent.

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Rachotilko
By Rachotilko (10 months ago)

Well, wide-apertured, reasonably priced pancake of great optical performance is a "cherry on the cake" of any mirrorless system.

Think of Samsung's 30 f/2.0 or Panasonic's 20/1.7. Fuji seriously hurt its X system by going the Sony's NEX way, rather than Samsung's NX or Panasonic's M43 way.

5 upvotes
Thomasbd
By Thomasbd (10 months ago)

why not F 2.0 ? I am disappointed! :( . And the price is not reasonable too..

4 upvotes
D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

because then it would not be a pancake anymore.

4 upvotes
misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

D1N0: Samsung's 30/2.0 is about the same size and weight, also covers APS-C image circle, is one stop faster, and is cheaper. The only saving grace of the Fujinon will be if the image quality is spectacular. However, the pancakes with this field of view from Canon (EF 40/2.8, EF-M 22/2.0) and Panasonic (20/1.7) both have faster aperture and exceptionally good image quality even wide open (and the Canons are cheaper), so even if the image quality of the Fujinon is exceptional, it will leave some people questioning the max aperture and price. The standard pancake category which used to be somewhat esoteric (Pentax and not much more) has suddenly become incredibly competitive - which I think is a wonderful development.

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tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (10 months ago)

I agree, samsung nx 30mm is f2, very small and light and has outstanding sharpness and iq.

6 upvotes
Den Sh
By Den Sh (10 months ago)

If you want speed get 23mm f/1.4 or 35mm f/1.4. If you want portability get X100S or 27mm f/2.8. You can't have both at the same time without making compromised designs that are either not portable or not usable wide open.

0 upvotes
D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Short Pancakes are easier to make when the focal distance is closer to the Flange Distance. For Fuji it is 17,7 mm. So they could make a f2 20mm pancake. 27mm is a bit more problematic hence the 2.8. The EF-M/2.0 is closer to the flange distance of canon-m (18mm) You should not compare m43 because it has a smaller sensor so 1.7 is actually 2.8 or around.

1 upvote
misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

D1N0: That's a bit of a myth. The flange distance of MFT is 19mm, and the Panasonic 14mm pancake is one of smallest ever made for any system. Even if it were true, the constraint would be only on focal lengths that are less than the flange distance. If the flange distance is shorter, you can simply make the lens a few millimeters longer on the side of the mount, with no impact on the optics.

3 upvotes
misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

Den Sh: Five years ago I would have agreed with you. But then Panasonic and Canon came out with lenses that prove otherwise. The 40/2.8 (35mm), 22/2.0 (APS-C), and 20/1.7 (MFT) are all excellent optically and sharp wide open. Haven't used the Samsung, but also hear good things about it.

3 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

20/1.7 is a good m4/3" lens.
the Samsung NX 30/2 is very good but got
blurred corners at open, which is standard for pancakes.
the EF-M22/2 is really good with no asph element.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Misolo: Not a myth but physics. First your comparing a m43 lens with retrofocus that is 2.5 (quite slow for 43) with an aps-c lens with a slight tele (compared to the flange) you can't just discard all these differences.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

D1N0: The Pentax K-mount flange distance is 45mm and Pentax APS-C pancakes ranges in focal length from 21mm to 70mm. You can get a 20mm Cosina/Voigtlander in Nikon mount (also 46mm flange), and that's with a 35mm-format image circle (although reputed to have somewhat soft corners when open).

3 upvotes
D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Yes de DA 21mm is F3.2 though. So? You are constantly forgetting physics. I have a 20mm full frame pancake the Pentax-M 20mm F4. It's not impossible to make pancakes for short focal ranges, it is impossible to make fast pancakes for short focal ranges.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

D1N0: Let' s make this real simple. And stick to APS-C to keep it even simpler. You can't make the excuse that the focal length of the Fuji 27/2.8 is too short: the Canon EF-M 22mm is shorter and manages f/2.0, with excellent sharpness wide open (and the flange distances are the same). You can't make the excuse that the focal length of the Fuji 27/2.8 is too long: the Samsung NX 30mm is longer and manages f/2.0, with good sharpness wide open (and the NX flange distance is longer, so you can put an adapter and it will work just fine on a Fuji X mount; even with an adapter, lens plus adapter would be just 29mm long). Are we done with the laws of physics BS now? The Fuji might be a perfectly good lens, and it may have been the right decision given Fuji's design and manufacturing capabilities. But a 27/2.0 with good sharpness wide open is obviously possible.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

you sir are an idiot! I am talking about focal distance relative to flange distance the samsung 30mm is 4,5 mm longer than flange distance, de canon is 4 mm longer than flange distance, the fuji is 9,3 mm longer than flange distance. More than double. That is why is F2.8 and not F2 . That is physics dumbo Fuji does have an 18mm F2 Pancake by the way.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

D1N0: I'll stop here, because against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. Look up "Dunning–Kruger effect".

2 upvotes
D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Very wel mr I won't counter any of of your arguments i will just call you stupid a'hole.

0 upvotes
misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

Just thought I'd share for the public record the four lovely private messages that keep showing up in my inbox from D1N0 (each in full):
1. "achterlijk zwijn" (retarded pig in Dutch)
2. "miser" (zijn Engels is niet de beste...)
3. "prick"
4. "your mother probably hates you"
There will no more for entertainment (though I may be a bad person for laughing at someone with obvious problems), because he now goes on my ignore list.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Misolo keep on demonstrating your evil personality please.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

Well done D1N0, you still managed to get one more ugly obscenity into my inbox before I actually blocked you. As a last, serious note in this conversation: I'd suggest you re-read the thread in a detached manner, and see what you think of your behavior. You started with the not-so-friendly "So?" and a nonsensical answer (I still can't believe that someone has trouble understanding the idea that you can put an adapter if the flange distance is a bit shorter...), and I responded with the equivalent "Let's make this real simple." And that point you got rude and inappropriate, calling me an "idiot". I responded somewhat in kind, though not nearly as rudely. At which point you called me an "a-hole" here and filled my inbox with obscenities. Would you be proud if people who know you, your family, saw this behavior? No one is ever quite as anonymous on the internet as they think they are.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

come and find me Misolo I dare you!

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

How thick is your skull? I have no interest, and have shown no interest, in finding you. Just pointing out that someone you know, say a family member, is bound to sooner or later wander into the same forum as you, and recognize you. Would you be proud of what they'd see?

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

I do not see that is any of your business. Typical that it's always canon of oly a'holes I get into fights with. Must be a genetic defect that attracts certain people to certain brands.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

It's been years since I last got into anything resembling a "fight". Maybe that you get into fights so often should give you a little hint?... You can get help for that, you know. (And, for the record, I currently use Canon, Panasonic, and Fuji cameras.)

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Mind your own business Misolo.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

Will be happy to do that if you can keep yourself from filling my private message inbox with insults and obscenities. Otherwise, I'll keep pointing out that you seem to be in need of professional help. Or maybe just of taking a few more naps during the day. Either way, don't start insulting people and launching scatological tirades into their private inbox if you don't like to have it publicly pointed out that there seems to be something wrong with you.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

You just cannot help your self can you? Tirades do not consist of three to five words. You evil Canon m43 wannabee dipshit

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

Four or five aggressive and obscene messages in a row into my inbox is a tirade. And you do seem to have a scatological fixation. Are you seeing anyone for your anger issues? How does your family feel about it?

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Did I not tell you to mind your own business?

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

This is irritating, your messages keep showing up in my inbox even though I've put you on my ignore list. Well then, in that case I'll keep sharing for all to see. Here's the latest from D1N0: "i hope a goat will f**k your a**" [no asterisks in my inbox...]

I told you I'd be happy to mind my own business when you stop filling my inbox with obscenities.

Tell us Dino, did you have an unhappy childhood? Have you sought out help? You don't have to live with all this anger, you know?

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

You just can't keep of it can you? Ignore seems not to work on inboxes. Just Testing.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

After you read them they get hidden, but before that they show up along with a "new message" notification. So pretty much useless. And, obviously, doesn't work at all on comment threads. The implementation in the forums is ok though.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

I use EF40/2.8 as "lens cap" that almost as good as some f/2.8 zooms. if this lens delivers as good resolution it could be a good lens cap for XF cameras.

since f/2.8 on APS-C is about 1.3 stops darker than f/2.8 on 35mm full-frame, the price should also be about 1.3 stops lower, or at least at half price of EF40/2.8.

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digifan
By digifan (10 months ago)

On which lens can you mount it then?
Or do you mean BODY CAP!

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

@digifan, sorry for that, and thanks for correcting me.

0 upvotes
epozar
By epozar (10 months ago)

darker?
my EOS 40/2.8 is the same f-stop on both 6D and 7D

1 upvote
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

same f-number doesn't mean same as bright or dark.
f-number does happen to mean relative brightness
on a certain format, but not across formats.

40/2.8 is 1.4 stops darker on 7D for a very simple reason.
the AoV is narrower through the same aperture area.
a narrower AoV means smaller object area
from which a lens can collect light.

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Den Sh
By Den Sh (10 months ago)

40mm is optically better than all the zooms I know of. It's amazingly sharp even wide open.

2 upvotes
FreedomLover
By FreedomLover (10 months ago)

"f/2.8 on APS-C is about 1.3 stops darker than f/2.8 on 35mm"
Yabokkie, why never admit that you are wrong ?
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/06/20/cosina-announces-voigtlander-nokton-42-5mm-f0-95-fast-manual-focus-portrait-lens-for-micro-four-thir

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flipmac
By flipmac (10 months ago)

@yabokkie: the f-number is light intensity, it doesn't get brighter or darker on larger or smaller format - think PSI (pressure)! So take a picture on FF with the 40/2.8, then crop the file so it's 2/3 the size. That basically what happens when you mount the same lens on a Rebel and take the same photo with the same settings (albeit with different resulting IQ).

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Muus
By Muus (10 months ago)

yabokkie,
you are confusing the effects of converters (e.g., a 2x converter decreases the aperture two full stops as it doubles the focal length - an f5 100mm lens has a full aperture of 20mm diameter, whereas the same 20mm is only 1/10th of the 200mm focal length you get with a 2x converter, hence you end up with a f10 lens at said 200mm - 4x 'dimmer'). but the same lens used for different sensor-sizes retains the same aperture in all cases as its focal lenght doesn't change. the only thing you do, in effect, is crop your image when you go to a smaller sensor. when you crop an image on your computer, it doesn't get darker, does it?
the cause of your confusion lies in your misunderstanding of the recalculation of focus lenghts to full frame. but this is entirely virtual and only done to arrive at an intuitive standard for angle of view. it would be better if we got used to thinking in terms of angle of view directly and skip the full frame reference, but that is another matter.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

@flipmac
> the f-number is light intensity,
> it doesn't get brighter or darker on larger or smaller format

the brightness that I mean is for photograph. what you can get in the output image.

this has nothting to do with unit area (that you may be thinking). one can change the unit area brightness quite freely with an imaginary "Speed Booster" for all the lenses/cameras and can see it in real with a "Speed Booster" for some combinations and get the same output from cameras of different formats.

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FreedomLover
By FreedomLover (10 months ago)

"one can change the unit area brightness quite freely with an imaginary Speed Booster"
Yabokkie, just as flipmac and Muus and many others before explained, you are simply wrong but never admit it.
You obviously prefer to invent ever new absurd and quite frankly ridiculous theories.

1 upvote
Marc Lorenz
By Marc Lorenz (10 months ago)

Why so slow? Canon's 22mm pancake is f2.

5 upvotes
flipmac
By flipmac (10 months ago)

Too bad the Canon 22/2 can only be mounted on an EOS-M, lol. Kidding aside, I'd like to see reasonably priced pancake with f/2 or faster from Fuji.

1 upvote
spidermoon
By spidermoon (10 months ago)

"This means there's no space for an aperture ring" ? Pentax-M 40mm f/2.8 or Chinon 45mm f2.8 are pancake lenses and have an aperture ring. But nowday, with all those drive-by-wire lenses, maybe you can't put mechanical aperture ring.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

for robustness and more important, cost saving.

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digifan
By digifan (10 months ago)

Yeah they might have an aperture ring but they don't have AF motors in them!

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

Focusing ring made of metal. What about everything else? Plastic?

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briny
By briny (10 months ago)

Metal barrel, metal mount, per specs.

1 upvote
Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

Would probably be cheaper if it was plastic, but that does sound rather sturdy, specially being so compact...

0 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

I searched amazon.com for rice bowls.
the prices are not very different for stainless or plastic.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Love the field of view, build, dont' even mind the price. But the max magnification is, lets just say it, horrible. That alone would keep me from buying it. Otherwise what a perfect pancake lens for Fuji shooters.

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misolo
By misolo (10 months ago)

It focuses down to 34 cm (13 in), which is about the usual for this kind of lens. It's 35mm-format-equivalent maximum magnification is 6.7x. Canon's 40/2.8 pancake, for instance, focuses down to 30 cm and has 5.6x magnification. The Panasonic 20/1.7 pancake does a bit better: 20 cm and 4x. In short, comparing with other 40mm-equivalent pancakes, not great, but far from "horrible".

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luxor2
By luxor2 (10 months ago)

"field of view similar to that of the human eye" , must be a lot of eye problems at Fuji. However, a great addition to their lens offerings.

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Dave Luttmann
By Dave Luttmann (10 months ago)

40mm has long been consideredmthe eye equivalent. Seems it's not an eye problem at Fuji...but a knowledge problem on your part

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itsastickup
By itsastickup (10 months ago)

The human eye sees a field of view more like an ultra-ultra wide-angle.

I don't need to be telling you this: just look.

The 'Normal' lens view is that which reflects the area of normal concious attention, not the optical view.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

for SLRs, 45-55mm lenses are called standard for two reasons, one is when you are peeping through the viewfinder, things you see are about as large as your naked (left) eye.

another reason is that lenses same or just a bit longer than the flange-back distance are the cheapest to make and 50mm primes were often used as kit lenses for film cameras. that makers wants to advertise them as "natural, human eye" ones.

in our days, Pana 20/1.7, Sony 24/1.8, Canon 22/2 are all cheap easy-to-make primes.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

Our brains are great at photoshop, that's why we seem to have a bigger fov than we actually have. An that also why everything seems to be in focus all the time (providing your eyes are in good shape).

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

"in our days, Pana 20/1.7, Sony 24/1.8, Canon 22/2 are all cheap easy-to-make primes."

Sony 24/1.8 is $1100. Should be much cheaper, but it has Zeiss in its name. :)

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

> but it has Zeiss in its name. :)

knowledge is power,
lack of knowledge of the buyer is money to the cheater.

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straylightrun
By straylightrun (10 months ago)

Hmm, and I thought the Sony NEX 20/2.8 pancake was expensive.

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RadPhoto
By RadPhoto (10 months ago)

But Sony's pancake is very bad quality. I've owned it and sold it. I don't mind paying more for quality.

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BBViet
By BBViet (10 months ago)

Quality in what aspect? The Sony E 20/2.8 has more or less the same build quality as this one. As far as optics go you don't know if this one will be better or worse.

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (10 months ago)

Too slow, too expensive really. Hopefully, its optics merit the price.

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