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Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM available in July for around $799 / £800

By dpreview staff on Jun 14, 2013 at 05:46 GMT
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Sigma USA has announced its 18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM Art lens for APS-C DSLRs - the world's first constant F1.8 zoom - will be available from July at a street price of around $799. Meanwhile the recommended retail price will be £799.99 in the UK, and €999 in Europe. The company has also said the lens will be available for Pentax and Sony mounts, as well as the Canon, Nikon and Sigma mounts originally announced. It covers a 27-52.5mm equivalent range and offers the depth-of-field of a constant F2.7 lens on full-frame. Click through for more information and to link to our first impressions of shooting with the lens.

Note that the 'Recommended Retail Price' of £799.99 (€999 in Europe) is a subtly different thing from the US $799 'street price': it'll probably settle down to a lower figure after the lens has been on sale for a bit. UK prices also include VAT, while US prices are quoted without sales tax, and of course EU buyers get more favourable warranty terms. So the discrepancy isn't quite as great as it may appear from a simple currency conversion.   

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Press Release: 

Sigma Corporation announces pricing and availability for new 18-35mm F1.8 lens

RONKONKOMA, N.Y., — June 14, 2013Sigma Corporation of America, a leading researcher, developer, manufacturer and service provider of some of the world’s most impressive lines of lenses, cameras and flashes, today announced that its new Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM Art lens will arrive in the United States early July for the street price of $799.

As the market’s first zoom lens to achieve a maximum aperture of F1.8 throughout the entire zoom range, the 18-35mm was created for DSLR cameras with APS-C size sensors, which translates to a focal range of 27-52.5mm on a 35mm camera. This lens will be available early July in Sigma and Canon mounts, with Nikon, Sony and Pentax mounts to follow.

“Sigma users are really excited about this lens. They’ve been watching the new Art line very closely – and their reaction to our initial announcement of this lens has been fantastic,” said Mark Amir-Hamzeh, president of Sigma Corporation of America. “More than 50 years of innovating with photography equipment has helped us build new generation lenses like the 18-35mm F1.8. We’re confident that photographers who focus on landscape, portrait, still-life, studio, close-up and casual shots will love this lens.”

The 18-35mm F1.8 is the latest addition to the company’s Art line of lenses, designed under the new Global Vision. The Global Vision lenses have a sleek new design with the manufacturing year stamped on the barrel, and are categorized by use into one of three groups: Art, Contemporary and Sports. The Art category delivers high-level artistic expression through sophisticated and abundant expressive power.

The new 18-35mm F1.8 lens features Sigma’s improved AF/MF switch and the use of Thermally Stable Composite (TSC) compound material, which has a high affinity to metal parts, consistently performs well at extreme temperatures, and reduces the size and weight of the lens. The lens’ Super Multi-Layer Coating reduces flare and ghosting and provides sharp and high contrast images, even in backlit conditions. Sigma’s Hyper Sonic Motor (HSM) ensures a silent, high-speed AF function, while its nine-blade, rounded diaphragm creates an attractive, round bokeh at large-aperture settings.

The 18-35mm F1.8 lens is also compatible with Sigma’s new USB Dock, which is available for the street price of $59, enabling photographers to update lens firmware and adjust focus parameters from their computers.

For information about Sigma Corporation of America, visit www.sigmaphoto.com.

Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM specifications

Principal specifications
Lens typeZoom lens
Max Format sizeAPS-C / DX
Focal length18–35 mm
Image stabilisationNo
Lens mountCanon EF, Nikon F (DX), Pentax KAF, Sony Alpha, Sigma SA
Aperture
Maximum apertureF1.8
Minimum apertureF16.0
Number of diaphragm blades9
Aperture notesRounded diaphragm
Optics
Elements17
Groups12
Special elements / coatings5 SLD glass elements, 4 glassmold aspherical elements
Focus
Minimum focus0.28 m (11.02)
Maximum magnification0.23×
AutofocusYes
Motor typeRing-type ultrasonic
Full time manualYes
Focus methodInternal
Distance scaleYes
DoF scaleNo
Physical
Weight810 g (1.79 lb)
Diameter78 mm (3.07)
Length121 mm (4.76)
Zoom methodRotary (internal)
Filter thread72 mm
Hood suppliedYes
Hood product codeLH780-03
184
I own it
439
I want it
20
I had it
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Comments

Total comments: 327
123
Pangloss
By Pangloss (9 months ago)

It's available (and in stock) now in the Netherlands for around 750 euros (including VAT). That's more or less $775 if you subtract the VAT, so comparable to US prices.

1 upvote
white shadow
By white shadow (10 months ago)

Wait no more. Its sensational!

Excellent image resolution in center of image with very good edges.

Very sharp wide open with peak performance at f/2.8 - f/4.0.

In short, a no brainer lens.

For details, go to:

lenstip.com

2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

an f/2.8 equivalent zoom is the most difficult for APS-C SLR cameras. it's easier for full-frame and more for mirrorless that I expect even higher performance to overwhelm compititioin.

there are people complaining about bokeh that we get an extra onion or two then just wait for 18-35/1.8 II.

0 upvotes
davidgp
By davidgp (10 months ago)

OK, let me say first that I am very impressed by this lens and am close to preordering one.

However, I haven't seen anyone comment on the character of the oof background blur. While the highlight bokeh seems good (though it has some edge highlighting at some apertures), it seems to me that much of the oof background areas are a bit "nervous." Has anyone else noticed this?

I've tried to compare 35mm f1.8 images from this lens to similar images taken with Sigma's 35mm f1.4 lens, and it seems to me the f1.4 lens produces a smoother, calmer background.

I think I'm going to get flamed for this critical comment, but I am interested in what others think about this.

1 upvote
white shadow
By white shadow (10 months ago)

Usually, a prime lens will always perform better than a zoom in all aspect. It is no surprise that the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 will be better than this zoom. This apply to other brands too.

For best image quality, prime lenses are the way to go. Zoom lenses are just for convenience.

For me, I prefer to use Zeiss prime lenses for their high micro contrast, neutral colours, brilliance, higher resolution and better manual focus (for some this is daunting and troublesome).

0 upvotes
Tryglaw
By Tryglaw (10 months ago)

Well, Lenstip's Polish motherpage just did a review, save for the lens being prone to flare when stepped down, it's rated excellent in every other aspect.
If you can live with Google translation, here you go:
http://www.optyczne.pl/297.1-Test_obiektywu-Sigma_A_18-35_mm_f_1.8_DC_HSM__Wstęp.html

4 upvotes
pca7070
By pca7070 (10 months ago)

Thanks :D

Comment edited 4 times, last edit 2 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
3dreal
By 3dreal (10 months ago)

Why sony-alpha? Because sigma seems to build sony-lenses for sony(the company).

It is fine to have such a speedy lens. But when it comes to quality then the new zeiss will beat them all. Distagon 55/1.4 to be the first, at 3000 euro for each of them.

0 upvotes
HDF2
By HDF2 (10 months ago)

It's fine to have such a speedy Volkswagen Golf (at $30,000), but the new Ferrari's will beat them all. The GT50 to be the first at $150,000.

Absurd comparison, isn't? Well, so is the comparison in your post.

Comment edited 7 minutes after posting
12 upvotes
Thoughts
By Thoughts (10 months ago)

You bought shares from ZEISS?

2 upvotes
cordellwillis
By cordellwillis (10 months ago)

After purchasing Zeiss glass he didn't have any money left over to buy shares in anything. Still saving to buy a camera for the lens to fit onto.

0 upvotes
dougster1979
By dougster1979 (10 months ago)

This is a great price if you are in the US. To add insult, they actually priced it £800, just to remind you you`re getting completely shafted in the UK. That`s $1256 at today's exchange rate!!!!!!

Comment edited 4 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
HDF2
By HDF2 (10 months ago)

The lens is being sold in the UK on-line for £649 while at B&H in the US it goes for $799. When you take out the 20% VAT in the UK, you will see that they are currently selling (pre-tax) at similar levels. The US price does not include sales taxes that often have to be added on and can be as high as 8-9% more.

1 upvote
Thoughts
By Thoughts (10 months ago)

This lens is going to hurt the sales of lenses such as Nikon 17-55, that is more expensive, almost as heavy and slower.

2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

17-55/2.8G was part of the f-number cheating and it already swindled enough money.

Nikon users should choose 24-70/2.8G on D700/D600, not the infamous 17-55. 24-70 is still a good choice but now Sigma provides another solution using their existing DX cameras to get same high quality image but with a narrower zoom range.

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 12 minutes after posting
2 upvotes
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

'f-number cheating?'

0 upvotes
hydrospanner
By hydrospanner (10 months ago)

So we should use FX glass with an FX sensor? Got it.

Please remind us how that ties into the discussion at hand?

0 upvotes
Digitall
By Digitall (10 months ago)

Well done Sigma, managed to put the Canikon think twice with this lens, with a "Friendly" price. Sigma 1 - Canikon 0.

6 upvotes
Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (10 months ago)

Would this lense be comparable to the sony SAL1650 2.8 for night street shots? does moving from 2.8 to 1.8 make a huge difference?

0 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (10 months ago)

well... it's 1 and 1/3 f-stop difference, so enough to make a real difference. Only problem is that you loose a bit of wide angle and tele. It might not be a best thing... depends really though on a type of photography you do.

0 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

exactly the same difference as between APS-C and 35mm full-frame at a certain f-number.

Comment edited 20 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
pca7070
By pca7070 (10 months ago)

Check out the review at http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1609/cat/31

Seems really good optics.

Comment edited 11 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
David Rossberg
By David Rossberg (10 months ago)

Awesome price! Sigma is always pushing to be affordable but for a lens like this I was actually expecting a higher price (just like the 35mm F1.4). Thank you Sigma for not being Canon (the worst "let's double the price for version 2" company).

6 upvotes
AllMankind
By AllMankind (10 months ago)

Come on Sigma... What about an E-Mount version.

0 upvotes
Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (10 months ago)

Did you read article ?
Let me refrase that, do you know how to read ?

Comment edited 56 seconds after posting
1 upvote
Frankinidaho
By Frankinidaho (10 months ago)

I think AllMankind can read. The article states the availability in a Sony Alpha mount, not a Sony E mount version.

3 upvotes
Miwok
By Miwok (10 months ago)

Who need a 800g, no stabilized lens for e-mount?

4 upvotes
Boris F
By Boris F (10 months ago)

Olympus OMD and PEN, can use lens without IS, but they make it for Sony ;-) Why?

Comment edited 6 minutes after posting
1 upvote
D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

this is a dslr lens. Would have to be redesigned for mirrorless because of shorter flange distances. You can probably use it with an a-mount adapter on e-mount (making it even bigger, but you can). Mirrorless is not made for big lenses, so if you want to use them just get a dslr.

Comment edited 29 seconds after posting
7 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (10 months ago)

Well, nothing new here - best photography glass is, was, and will be for DSLRs.

0 upvotes
mosc
By mosc (10 months ago)

If you're spending $800 for a lens which takes up significantly more space than your NEX, I hardly see the negative about purchasing the adapter for full PDAF anyway. The alpha version is as close to an E-mount version as there needs to be. People wanting big lenses on their NEX can buy a very very good adapter (or just an alpha SLR ffs)

0 upvotes
Rocket09
By Rocket09 (10 months ago)

I wonder how it would go on the D800 in 1.2 crop mode as the SLR review states relatively low vignetting! The nikon 35mm 1.8 is ok,this might be decent aswell.

0 upvotes
groucher
By groucher (10 months ago)

Nikon's 17-55 f2.8 with the 1.4 converter is great on the D800 and is FF. The Sigma would be 25-50 at approx f2.8 - very tempting for FF users at that price.

0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (10 months ago)

This lens is made for an APS-C sensor camera. It won't work on a full frame camera with a full frame image.

For full frame buy a full frame lens.

0 upvotes
groucher
By groucher (10 months ago)

Yes it will. All lenses for APC-C cameras operate as FF when used with a 1.4 converter but you lose a stop. Converters work by increasing the image circle of the lens.
Some lenses, such as the Tokina 10-17mm fish, are FF through part of their zoom range even without a converter. The Tokina is FF between 14 and 17mm

1 upvote
sadwitch
By sadwitch (10 months ago)

Hell yeah although i don't own any apsc camera now.

0 upvotes
Marksphoto
By Marksphoto (10 months ago)

I'll be the first one in line for this beauty.

Thumbs up for Sigma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

0 upvotes
jsatter
By jsatter (10 months ago)

Thank you Sigma! This lens will go great with my sigma 50-150 2.8 os. Thanks for helping those of us on DX since Nikon doesn't seem inclined to. Now I just need you to make me a 56mm f/1.2 for DX!

2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

a 50-150/1.8 is coming probably.

1 upvote
niulinfeng
By niulinfeng (10 months ago)

u sure?

0 upvotes
jtan163
By jtan163 (10 months ago)

Be interesting to see what, if anything, this pricing does to the 17-55 ƒ/2.8 APS-C lens pricing.

0 upvotes
Shamael
By Shamael (10 months ago)

why do many say that this price is less than they expected. Always complain that it is too expensive, it might do the price drop a bit, hehehe.

2 upvotes
miles green
By miles green (10 months ago)

Yes!!! Thanks Sigma for the Pentax (and Sony) mount!

5 upvotes
photofan1986
By photofan1986 (10 months ago)

Ok, great lens. But...will it blend?

5 upvotes
3dreal
By 3dreal (10 months ago)

New Zeiss HQ/Highend FF Distagon 55/1.4 will kill this zoom and any lens ever in terms of quality by multiple lenghts. at 3 -3.5x the price. As already mentioned. In an interview Zeiss managers(amount the two was dr. nasse) confessed that until recently they were not allowed to offer highest topquality for the publice. This lens is the first of a series which will show the real optical possibilities. Maybe i will sell a lot of my stuff, forgetting 6x6/6x7. Zeiss said the new series will have MF-quality.

0 upvotes
GeorgeD200
By GeorgeD200 (10 months ago)

Yes, and a D800 is way better quality than a D7000, at 3x the price. What's your point? You are missing the purpose of the new Sigma lens entirely. It is to offer a low-light zoom at prices that lots of entry and mid-range camera owners can actually afford. Sigma will sell 30x more of these than Zeiss will sell it's 55/1.4 ( which is a lousy comparisson, BTW because it's not even within the same focal length.)

15 upvotes
keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (10 months ago)

Fixed manual focus boutique prime versus a consumer zoom. What a non sequitur. It's like telling us that a 747 will fly faster than the sigma lens. Our reply would be "of course" followed by "so what"?

3 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (10 months ago)

@ 3dreal: get real.

2 upvotes
jtan163
By jtan163 (10 months ago)

That is an awesome price. I was rather expecting something like double that.
Good release date for me to.
July is tax time in Australia what a great way to spend a return.

1 upvote
exp1orer
By exp1orer (10 months ago)

put this lens in a DLSR with IBIS like pentax K5IIs and you'll have a killer combo.

20 upvotes
exp1orer
By exp1orer (10 months ago)

Clifton Cameras shop in UK actually sells this lens for £649 and you can pay it monthly (12/24/36/48 months) at 19.9% APR. DPR's quoted price is much higher than what most UK retailers have.

0 upvotes
LKJ
By LKJ (10 months ago)

That's because it's the suggested retail price.

And also when you buy something on credit at 20% interest, they can afford to "discount" it.

1 upvote
GeorgeD200
By GeorgeD200 (10 months ago)

How can anyone "actually" sell a lens that hasn't been released yet?

0 upvotes
Mr Blah
By Mr Blah (10 months ago)

This lens plus the upcoming EF-to-MFT Metabones Speed Booster on the GH3 equals quite the amazing package. $1400 for a 37-49mm f/1.3 equivalent sounds pretty nice.

4 upvotes
brendon1000
By brendon1000 (10 months ago)

If you use it with an Olympus system you will get 5 axis IBIS to boot !

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
7 upvotes
jtan163
By jtan163 (10 months ago)

Indeed.
I reckon that Metabones Speedbooster is gonna have quite the market in the M43 world.

0 upvotes
GeorgeD200
By GeorgeD200 (10 months ago)

As long as it doesn't destroy the image quality :(

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

26-50 eq. And it is unnecessary big and heavy on mft.

2 upvotes
NetMage
By NetMage (10 months ago)

You know a lighter or cheaper f/1.3 wide angle zoom?

0 upvotes
Mr Blah
By Mr Blah (10 months ago)

@ GeorgeD200:
Destroy the image quality? The Speed Booster is an optical compressor that will take the image circle from the center of the lens and condense it to fit over the MFT sensor. If anything, that process of condensing the image decreases apparent lens defects and can actually improve sharpness and IQ.

@ peevee1:
Ah, right -- my mistake! It'll indeed be a 25.56 mm to 49.7 mm equivalent.
As for the heft, yeah it'll definitely be bulky. It might seem like overdoing it on most MFT cameras, but the GH3, being unusually large for its sensor, should accommodate it fine.
Anyway, it just comes down to use cases and personal preference; I'm interested in it despite its girth.

0 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (10 months ago)

Mr Blah - it's an additional lens. OBVIOUSLY it DOES decrease image quality.
This marketing BS that SB tries to promote needs to stop.

1 upvote
Mr Blah
By Mr Blah (10 months ago)

Fair point. All glass getting in the way of the sensor will slightly blur the image obtained through it -- I should have left out "IQ" in my response.
Still, I'll maintain that the destruction of image quality shouldn't be a large concern with the Speed Booster.
Thanks for keeping my perspective in check, anyway.

0 upvotes
Misho5z
By Misho5z (10 months ago)

the Metabones EF-4/3 is made for FF lens giving a APS-C equivalent focal length of the gh2 and gh3, not APS-C... It wouldn't work, though it'd be nice to dream.

0 upvotes
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (10 months ago)

It's now time for the big guys to reverse engineer this lens.

How times have changed...

.

21 upvotes
Juck
By Juck (10 months ago)

No it isn't, and not really.

2 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (10 months ago)

After a first tests - it actually is.

1 upvote
Nukunukoo
By Nukunukoo (10 months ago)

It's more expensive in the UK. Now why am I not surprised?

2 upvotes
samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

It's ok. You guys still have those awesome accents.

15 upvotes
exp1orer
By exp1orer (10 months ago)

Clifton Cameras shop in UK actually sells this lens for £649 and you can pay it monthly (12/24/36/48 months) at 19.9% APR. DPR's quoted price is much higher than what most UK retailers have.

0 upvotes
NetMage
By NetMage (10 months ago)

As they explain, suggested retail versus street combined with included tax versus excluded and extended warrant EU requires means pricing isn't comparable.

1 upvote
Alphoid
By Alphoid (10 months ago)

Fantastic news. This was ask for before by other folks, and I'll ask again: Give samples on full-frame. Why APS-on-full-frame? You can crop. If you're doing a square crop, for instance, you get more image than you would on APS. If you're okay with a bit of vignetting, you get more image. Etc.

The lens is also likely to perform differently on full frame at different focal lengths and apertures. There may be some combos where it does quite well.

6 upvotes
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

We had to send the sample of the lens we had back, so we can't check.

4 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

should make it a standard section in your check-list (like vignetting and distortion beyond the intended frame) that an intern could do it semi-automatically before you return the lens.

this gives more useful information, provides direct practice guide, than breaking the lens down though I'm also interested inside the lens.

Comment edited 59 seconds after posting
1 upvote
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

We don't have any interns and the US office doesn't usually test lenses (but that's where we got the lens).

2 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (10 months ago)

For more comprehensive lens test, go to www.photozone.de and www.lenstip.com

Since this lens is so new, give them a bit of time.

1 upvote
Barbu
By Barbu (10 months ago)

C'mon, mr. Butler! A full test is outof the question, but at least a few pics can be snapped even by your cleaning lady, if you give her a FF :)

1 upvote
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

My point is, that it's easy to do if it crosses your mind to do it. Now we no longer have the lens, it's much harder.

3 upvotes
Juck
By Juck (10 months ago)

So if an EF version was used on a NEX 6 with the metabones speed booster, would it effectively be a 12-24mm F/1.2? Or would the Focal length and max aperture remain the same because it's not a FF lens? My head hurts.

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
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Alphoid
By Alphoid (10 months ago)

It would, indeed, be a 12-24mm f/1.2. Sadly, the image wouldn't fill the whole sensor. You'd get the same black circle as you would if you used an APS lens directly on full-frame. Still, it can be an advantage if you're planning to crop anyways (e.g. for a square photo).

Comment edited 53 seconds after posting
3 upvotes
ntsan
By ntsan (10 months ago)

I guess with EOS-M43 you get 12-24mm F1.2 without black circle

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Mr Blah
By Mr Blah (10 months ago)

The Speed Booster for the NEX cameras is designed to adapt lenses with a full-frame image circle to cameras with an APS-C image circle. So, since this lens is meant for APS-C to begin with, you'll end up with a lot of vignetting. Also, your focal length conversion might be wrong (depending on your base crop factor). Without the Speed Booster this lens would be equivalent to a full-frame 27-53 mm when attached to a Sony NEX APS-C camera.
With the Speed Booster, it'd be equivalent to a full-frame 19-37 mm lens when on the NEX APS-C cameras.

With the MFT version of the Speed Booster, which is designed for the smaller image circle, this lens will come out to a 37-49 mm equivalent since MFT has a 2x crop factor to begin with.

To get the full-frame equivalent focal length for the Speed Booster, you do this:

[focal length of lens] * [camera sensor crop factor] * (0.71)

... with 0.71 being the compression factor of the Speed Booster.

0 upvotes
Ben Ramsey
By Ben Ramsey (10 months ago)

I believe the lens on a micro 4/3 camera with a speed booster would give a more field of view more similar to a 26-50mm. 37-49mm just wouldn't make sense. It's a roughly 2x zoom.

1 upvote
Ingloryon
By Ingloryon (10 months ago)

maybe the lens would have no vignetting on fullframe @ 35mm, just like what happens with tokina 11-16mm and others. The effort would be kinda worthless, since there are brighters 35mm out there.

0 upvotes
Mr Blah
By Mr Blah (10 months ago)

@ Ben Ramsey
Yes, you're right. Massive irony noted, it's pretty bad that I messed up my own correction. Thanks for setting it straight!

0 upvotes
ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (10 months ago)

Bravo, Sigma! Bravo!!

7 upvotes
mosc
By mosc (10 months ago)

True or false, this is the brightest zoom * crop factor ever? f1.8 x1.5 = f2.7

???

0 upvotes
dylanbarnhart
By dylanbarnhart (10 months ago)

Yes.

0 upvotes
Underdog 3000
By Underdog 3000 (10 months ago)

Good one.
Yes to a true or false.

2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

this is a Canon mount one, so f/1.8 * 1.612 = f/2.9
for others it's f/1.8 * 1.532 = f/2.8
5% error is tolerated so f/2.8 and f/2.9 are the same.

0 upvotes
LKJ
By LKJ (10 months ago)

I'm not sure what is but this certainly isn't; Angénieux produced a 28-70 f/2.6 in Nikkor F-mount more than 20 years ago.

0 upvotes
GeorgeD200
By GeorgeD200 (10 months ago)

Why are you multiplying the aperture by the focal length "equivalency" numbers? To gauge the "equivalent" aperture of this lens, shouldn't you be comparing depth of field and circle of confusion? All you amateur lens engineers around here crack me up. Pointless formulas to the 3rd decimal place, LOL!

5 upvotes
mrmut
By mrmut (10 months ago)

Acceptable price for a great lens.

When they published specifications of this lens, that was the reason for me to start thinking about system change. Somewhere in that time Canon also announced their small and light camera, so there two would be paired beautifully.

0 upvotes
Summi Luchs
By Summi Luchs (10 months ago)

Don't know if this would become a true dream pair. The lens is big and heavy (810 grams), better balanced with the bigger and heavier APS-C bodies.

3 upvotes
Thoughts
By Thoughts (10 months ago)

Summi is right. You may find the front is too heavy and unbalanced. 800 gram is not light!

Comment edited 18 seconds after posting
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white shadow
By white shadow (10 months ago)

This is the brightest zoom lens so far and lenses with large aperture are always heavy due to the larger glass elements. Those who are used to cheap entry level zoom lens will be disappointed. This lens will weigh about the same as the full frame Canon 24-70 f/2.8L. One cannot have everything.

If one is used to professional quality lenses this is normal but if you are a novice using, say, a Canon 700D, you may be in for a shock. In the end, you may prefer your micro 4/3 instead.

If you want a fast lens on a Canon 700D you would have to use a prime like a 35mm f/2.0. I have tried using my Canon EF 24mm f/1.4L MkII on the 100D and found it to balance quite well. Great for street photography but if you are a novice it is unlikely you would buy a 24mm f/1.4 MkII. The price is more than USD2000.

Yes, this new Sigma will feel a bit unbalance on a light body.

Perhaps thats the reason Leica has to use a slow zoom lens on their new "Mini-M". A large aperture zoom would be too heavy.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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mrmut
By mrmut (10 months ago)

Thanks for replies; All.

I am aware of the weight issues, but consider this: I currently use E-450 (which is even lighter than the Canon's offering), with ZD-25 F2.8 lens, which is incredibly light (about 100gr). However, today, I had to mount Sigma 35 F1.4 to that same camera, to photograph an event. All vent fine, but sigma is about 500 gr or more. So, when you consider the gain from such an astounding zoom, and (relatively) small weight penalty, I am all in it for this. Essentially fro all purposes, from travel to even photography (I really like small cameras).

For the m43 comment - I don't like them. Even SLR cameras are sterile, compared to rangefinders [and I don't want to pay for Leica (cameras and lenses are expendable tools)], and m43 is even more so. When you look through that digital window into the world, it cuts you out completely from the scene.

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Plastek
By Plastek (10 months ago)

@Thoughts - front-heavy? With what? Nikon D3200? I thought that someone investing 800 quid in an f/1.8 zoom have a decent body to match it, one that perfectly balances with a lens like that :)

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Marques Lamont
By Marques Lamont (10 months ago)

The lens looks like a great deal so far!

Looks like a low light star.

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Paul Liukas
By Paul Liukas (10 months ago)

Excellent. Never had Sigma before 35 1.4. Never had better lens. Keep going. Waiting 24 1.4 for real price.

If Sigma beets Zeiss at some instances, that is really good sign.

P.

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Underdog 3000
By Underdog 3000 (10 months ago)

They need to concentrate on a good 50mm. I don't care about IS (I use pentax). I just don't care for my options and Sigma seems to be on fire lately.

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Robert Morris
By Robert Morris (10 months ago)

SLR Gear has a review up. I can believe how sharp this lens is wide open. Just pre ordered it, can't wait. Link http://slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=1609

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dylanbarnhart
By dylanbarnhart (10 months ago)

Wow, even at F/1.8 it's sharper than my Canon 17-55 IS at F/2.8. That's crazy.

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mgblack74
By mgblack74 (10 months ago)

Now Sigma, please produce one or all of the following: 50, 58, 85 f/1.2 and a 135 f/1.8. :-)

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Akanosora
By Akanosora (10 months ago)

Would be nice if they could produce a 5:1 magnificent macro lens like Canon 65mm

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Robert Morris
By Robert Morris (10 months ago)

Great, I get to dump 3 lenses for 1 and gain 1 stop on one of them. Count me in, the low price is just an added bonus.

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Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (10 months ago)

That price difference is really ugly.

But overall, thats quite ok price for such lens..

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

Why, what's the US MSRP? Or the European or UK street price?

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Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (10 months ago)

799 USD is roughly 532 GBP (at least with my conversion ratio) or 640 EUR and even with quite high VAT (21%) its still "just" 775 EUR.

Calculation to USD is that in Europe this lens cost 1249 USD!

Well, I really hope this is just "should be price" and it wont be real. Cause in case with Sony, it sometimes was real price (tho its lately quite ok in this aspect).

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

That doesn't answer my question.

We know the US 'street price' ($799) but not a European street price.

We know the European MSRP but not the US one.

When first launched, the Sigma SD1 had a US MSRP of $10,000 but apparently a street price of $6899 (according to Sigma US).

There are reports of the 18-35mm being available for around GBP650 (which would be a street price). That's $812 - $866 (assuming that's a price inc VAT and with an exchange rate in the range of 1:1.5 - 1:1.6)

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AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (10 months ago)

That's a excellent price for a very interesting lens indeed. Sigma is really on a roll these days. Great times to be a photographer!

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Earthlight
By Earthlight (10 months ago)

How on earth did they come up with the Euro price? This is just like Adobe.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

Please read the note about what the different regions are actually quoting.

Bear in mind, for instance that the Sigma SD1's original US MSRP was $10,000 but its street price was $6899.

The US and Europe are giving different numbers, which aren't directly comparable.

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Nishi Drew
By Nishi Drew (10 months ago)

Reading the comments, it is clear how many people can't handle switching lenses :)

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

interchangeable lenses?

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Deleted-pending
By Deleted-pending (10 months ago)

if Sigma comes up with 1-2 more lenses like that, they will create a new market for Event photographers & Film makers.
Switching lenses during events is the worst thing to do. I basically carry 2-3 bodies around my neck with 1.8 or 1.4 prime lenses, and a 2.8 zoom lens. Having a lens that covers a wide angle to semi close-up all trough the 1.8 aperture is just phenomenal.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

this lens means nothing for those who have a 24-70/2.8 mounted on 35mm format.

it means a lot for APS-C users for they can now get 35mm format quality (narrower range though, about 28-55/2.8) using their current camera.

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mosc
By mosc (10 months ago)

You can mount this thing on a Canon SL1 if you really wanted to. If Sigma does make another one of these (or two) catering to portrait and telephoto, you better believe a lot of wedding shooters are going to ditch putting multiple heavy FF bodies around their neck in favor of featherlight APS-C bodies.

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moizes 2
By moizes 2 (10 months ago)

I just do not get it completely - so what is wrong with Nikkor 17-55/2.8? One step down? But much more usable range! Are all of you guys sure that 1.8 is fully usable at any setting and any situation? Come on, Gentlemen! Take a closer look at the samples! At 5.6 good copy of Nikkor is the same, if not better! (My question to Nikonians, of cose!)

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iAPX
By iAPX (10 months ago)

Nikkor 17-55 f/2.8 is twice slower for available light photography, has not the same depth-of-field at full aperture, and finally cost twice the price!

Offering this 18-35 f/1.8 under $1000 is a statement: Sigma wants to take market share!

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

Nikkor 17-55/2.8 is 1.3 stops slower with poor optical quality (doesn't resolve well at open, not so good stopped down).

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moizes 2
By moizes 2 (10 months ago)

Good copy of Nikkor is stunning at 5.6, at any settings, thru the zoom! Your personal poor experience is not entirely true for everyone, you should agree.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

stunning at f/5.6 on D200? at a price comparable to 24-70/2.8?

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moizes 2
By moizes 2 (10 months ago)

Your 24-70 is OK, my (2 copies) were soft at 24. My 17-55 is very good,( on any body, d300 - d7100 ), your is soft. Game of sample variations, sad reality of life.

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Akanosora
By Akanosora (10 months ago)

Sounds like Nikon lenses are made by hand... glad I am a Canon user...

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jackpro
By jackpro (10 months ago)

A light Canon 6D with a 24-70 f2.8 will be the wedding shooters choice but sigma hit it out of the park with the pricing wow

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

I tested four copies of DX17-55/2.8, plus two in the shop and none was good. then I got a chance to check one just returned from NPS and that was not good either.

Tamron 17-50/2.8 was a better lens that I got two.

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moizes 2
By moizes 2 (10 months ago)

I did think I am the King of bad luck, but the Crown is going to you now...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

though I don't have access to as many copies as lensrentals, my small sample were from different batches, from both factory and NPS, and represent better the over all quality of DX17-55/2.8 which is not good.

think Nikon guys were still learning how to design and make lens at the time. it's good they did come out later with high quality lenses since 2007.

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Ingloryon
By Ingloryon (10 months ago)

18-35mm f/1.8 (APS-C) = 28-55mm f/2.8 (FF)
17-55mm f/2.8 (APS-C) = 28-85mm f/4 (FF)

35mm f/1.8 + 1.5x crop in post (APS-C) = 85mm f/4 (FF)

Conclusion: the sigma can be as versatile as the main 17-55mm, probably even more. And at a much lower cost.

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moizes 2
By moizes 2 (10 months ago)

Nikkor 35/1.8 is 53/1.8 for DX - normal lens. It is 2.4 for FF in term of theoretical DOF, but light coming thru as it is 1.8. Come on, guys. Set it on FF body - terrible vignetting, but still 35/1.8.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

Good, point, Ingloryon. Except f/2.8 on APS-C is more like f/4.5 on FF, so indeed, cropping from 35/1.8 can give pretty good 50 mm.
Of course, you cannot go wider by cropping, so for photographing big groups, FF with 24-70 (or m43 with 12-35 for light weight) is so much sweeter.

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Ingloryon
By Ingloryon (10 months ago)

I was just trying to compare the 18-35mm and 17-55mm.

In fact, despite several times more expensive, nothing beats the 24-70mm + full frame combo (in versatility aspect).

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moizes 2
By moizes 2 (10 months ago)

Wrong point, so, wrong conclusion. But its OK, if you wish so.

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Ingloryon
By Ingloryon (10 months ago)

Moizes, the amount of light in a aps-c sensor through an f/1.8 is about the same as in a fullframe sensor through an f/2.8. That's exactly the reason that fullframe sensors has better iso performance. If you could take a little of thinking you would got it by yourself.

And FYI the math behind this conversion is f-number times crop factor (1.8 x 1.5 = 2.7 which is almost 2.8)

ps: I believe that peevee's calculation was 2.8 x 1.6(canon) = 4.48, almost 4.5. I did 2.8 x 1.5(nikon) = 4.2, almost 4.
pps: you're welcome for the lesson.

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Cameron R Hood
By Cameron R Hood (10 months ago)

Wonder if THIS front element is held on with double-sided tape? I will NEVER buy anything from this company, and I won't let the photographic community forget the foundation on which they built this company.

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johnduncan
By johnduncan (10 months ago)

Thanks...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (10 months ago)

don't mind if they glue the lens with rice or whatever as long as it does the work.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

So, given the choice of adhesive tape (easy to position correctly, won't drip, easier to ensure even adhesion), you'd rather use a liquid glue/cement?

I hadn't realised the entire world of engineering had concluded that one method was inherently superior to the other.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (10 months ago)

As someone who had the misfortune of selling Sigma lenses not once but twice, it's hard to get past their mechanical (and in many cases, optical) history. But all indications are that they have turned over a new leaf. Never thought I'd say this but if they made a lens I really wanted, I'd probably take the gamble. Of course, I'd prefer Tokina or even Tamron but that's not an option here.

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Madaboutpix
By Madaboutpix (10 months ago)

Pardon my ignorance, but what is that mysterious foundation on which Sigma was built? Since the film days I have shot several Sigma lenses - on Minolta and Sigma bodies - and actually they were all pretty decent, both optically and mechanically, sometimes even better than that. As a Pentaxian, I appreciate the fact that Sigma cares to produce a fair (and affordable) selection of K mount lenses which nicely supplements Pentax's own lineup. And this includes their latest 'Global vision' glass, as the above 18-35mm F1.8, which in combination with Sigma's efforts at improving their quality control strikes me as quite impressive ...

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mgblack74
By mgblack74 (10 months ago)

Foundation?!!!!
Virgin records started out of the back of a car. Hyundai made the "Pony". Germany gave the world Hitler. Leica used to be an affordable camera. People and companies have the right to improve. So far so good for Sigma.

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Paul Liukas
By Paul Liukas (10 months ago)

I think thats bad attitude, world is Turing around its axis and nothing stands still. One companies come, other go. Sigma showed their abilities with 35 1.4. If you are brand addicted thats up to you, but you should always seek for the best...

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

"I won't let the photographic community forget the foundation on which they built this company."

Lame attitude. It's "what have you done lately" that really counts, not what they might have done a decade or so ago. Companies change over time. Consider that Apple computer was once on the verge of bankruptcy. Now look at them. Consider that Kodak once dominated the photo industry. Now, their name is mud in the photo industry.

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LKJ
By LKJ (10 months ago)

You say you "won't let us forget", but we have to know what you're talking about before we can move on to forgetting about it...

I'm not sure what's going on here.

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royston42
By royston42 (10 months ago)

Great use of the US-UK exchange rate, I don't think:-(

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alan over 80
By alan over 80 (10 months ago)

Price is $799 dollars which I make is £509. Even if you add our 20% VAT still dont understand the price in England

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (10 months ago)

Have you read the article or the comments below?

The UK price is an MSRP - not the price you'll actually pay (one retailer is apparently offering it for £650)

The US price is a 'street price,' which /is/ the price you are likely to pay.

It's an odd way of doing it but it is explained at the top of the story.

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rb59020
By rb59020 (10 months ago)

No one reads the stories, that go straight to the comment section and whine and cry about features, lack of features, quality control (apparently) and prices. It's funner!

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alan over 80
By alan over 80 (10 months ago)

what is funner . Cant find it in english dictionary

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rb59020
By rb59020 (10 months ago)

Geez alan, you're really starting to sound like my ex. ;-(

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GeorgeD200
By GeorgeD200 (10 months ago)

over 80 = no sense of humor?

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iAPX
By iAPX (10 months ago)

What a bargain, this is a no-brainer: I want one of these wonder!

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OldZorki
By OldZorki (10 months ago)

I wa thinking about selling my Canon APS-C gear.. Now I am not so sure (unless they have it in Fuji mount )) ). Looks like perfect lens for me..

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Akanosora
By Akanosora (10 months ago)

Me 2. I am almost ready to jump into FF this year...

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tinzi1
By tinzi1 (10 months ago)

Geeze, starting to feel like an idiot paying for nikon/canon.

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bcalkins
By bcalkins (10 months ago)

Wow - that is a lot less than I expected. Nice job Sigma!

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klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

Well it's understandably heavy, but I can slap it on my Pentax, get IS and focus peaking and go a long way towards eliminating my FF envy. Thanks, Sigma!

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harold1968
By harold1968 (10 months ago)

fantastic
how about a f2 FF zoom now ::)

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