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Samsung unveils Galaxy S4 Zoom camera/phone hybrid

By dpreview staff on Jun 12, 2013 at 13:04 GMT

Samsung has officially unveiled the Galazy S4 Zoom - the nearest thing yet to a true camera / phone hybrid.  The 'camera side' features a 24-240mm equivalent F3.1-6.3 lens with a zoom ring around the barrel, in front of a 16MP 1/2.3" CMOS sensor. It includes optical image stabilisation, a built-in xenon flash, ISO 100-3200, 4 fps continuous shooting, and 1080p30 HD video; images are stored to internal memory or microSD. On the 'phone side' you get a 4.3" Super AMOLED display, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean, and all the other features you'd expect of a modern smartphone. The S4 zoom will go on sale this summer.

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Press Release:

SAMSUNG INTRODUCES THE GALAXY S4 ZOOM – THE FIRST SMARTPHONE TO OFFER 10X OPTICAL ZOOM

The ultimate smartphone and camera experience in one

12 June 2013, London, UK – Samsung Electronics today announced the launch of the Samsung GalaxyS4 Zoom, a new device that combines the stylish heritage of the Galaxy S4 smartphone with advanced photographic capabilities.

Part of the GalaxyS4 family, the Galaxy S4 Zoom is the result of Samsung’s mission to create a single device that can fulfill the role of both an industry-leading smartphone, and a high-end compact camera. Combining 10x Optical Zoom, a 16 Mega Pixel CMOS Sensor, OIS and Xenon Flash with the very latest Samsung Galaxy S4 technology, the GalaxyS4 Zoom sets new standards for mobile photography.

Simon Stanford, Vice President of IT & Mobile Division, Samsung Electronics UK & Ireland said: 'Combining our industry leading expertise in digital imaging and smartphones, the Galaxy S4 Zoom is a converged device that delivers on all fronts and is a product we are excited to be bringing to the market.'

Revolutionary new interface

You can do everything and miss nothing thanks to the revolutionary new Zoom Ring,a simple and intuitive way to access the Galaxy S4 Zoom’s key features. When you are in the middle of a phone call and you see something you absolutely have to share, a quick twist of the Zoom Ring will activate the In-Call Photo Sharefeature, letting you capture and send an image directly via MMS to whoever you are talking to.

For easy camera navigation, the Zoom Ring can be used to activate the Quick Launch and Shortcut features, giving you instant access to multiple camera modes including Auto, Gallery and Smart Mode with just a simple twist.

Revolutionising conventional camera zoom controls, the Optical zoom control replaces traditional dials and buttons with smooth, easy-to-operate digital controls making it even easier to take professional and accurate shots.

Capture the best images

The GalaxyS4 Zoom’s best-in-class 10x Optical Zoom and 16MP BSI CMOS Sensor lets you capture beautiful images from far away or up close and personal, in all light conditions, without having to carry heavy camera gear. The built-in Optical Image Stabiliser (OIS) helps keep the camera perfectly still even when you are not, reducing blur and stabilising the image when zooming in for high-quality photos and videos.

Photo Suggest instantly connects you to huge libraries of images taken by fellow photographers, to help you find and compose your best shots, anywhere in the world. Photo Suggest can even direct you to the ideal nearby location which will give you the vantage point you need for that perfect photo.

The GalaxyS4 Zoom also features Samsung’s popular Smart Mode. Simply choose from a series of pre-set modes and the camera will automatically adjust to ensure you capture the best photo possible. Use Drama Shot to merge continuous shots of moving objects into a single composed image, or Action Freeze to instantly capture high-speed action. If you are not sure which Smart Mode to select, the Smart Mode Suggestfeature can assess the scene for you and provide a list of the best options based on light levels, focal length, or face detection, ensuring you always get the shot you want.

Unlimited entertainment in the palm of your hand

The GalaxyS4 Zoom's heritage is evident throughout, from its sleek and stylish design to the powerful, yet intuitive user interface. Running on Android Jelly Bean 4.2, the GalaxyS4 zoom boasts many of the same features as the recently launched Galaxy S4, including Touchwiz, which lets you fully customise various aspects of your device including the lock screen and notification bar, for a truly personal mobile experience.

Perfect for keen travellers, Story Albumlets you arrange all of your favourite images and videos into one timeline to share with friends and loved ones. You can also edit images and even order prints directly from the device through a partnership with blurb*. If you would rather transfer your images to your laptop or tablet for safe keeping, Samsung Link lets you do so quickly and easily with just the touch of a button. Alternatively, you can sync all of your data in your own personal cloud through HomeSync,providing the ultimate peace of mind and ensuring your images and videos are waiting for you whenever you need them.

The GalaxyS4 Zoom also features the new Samsung Hub, a one-stop destination for all of the latest music, videos, books and games. Search, download and enjoy all of your favourite entertainment at the touch of a button, directly from your device. Share a new track or game with your friends using Group Play and connect directly with their Samsung devices so you can all listen and play together, without the need for a Wi-Fi AP or cellular signal.

The Galaxy S4 Zoom will be available in the UK this summer, with UK shipping dates to be confirmed nearer the time.

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Total comments: 222
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tabloid
By tabloid (10 months ago)

I would like it more if there was the option of clipping on a electronic viewfinder...as we all know these cameras are total useless in sunlight.

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marc baumser
By marc baumser (9 months ago)

http://www.hoodmanusa.com/prodinfo.asp?number=H-LPP3

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tabloid
By tabloid (10 months ago)

Dont fret 'ye of little faith'.....this is just the beginning.

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Neloy Sinha
By Neloy Sinha (10 months ago)

I am happy that I can express my ideas about Samsung Galaxy Camera phone in this forum.No doubt it is an object I would desire.But I know that I have to be patient and determined to have it at a later date, when the initial craze will be over.There are many phones but Samsung always brings something very special.They thing for the consumers and the demand of the day. I believe this camera phone will be a real camera for many in 2014. Its improved versions will grab attention of present generation.Many camera companies have to tie up with mobile vendors for the matter of survival. If they have to remain afloat they have to sandwich "Camera+Phone" by any means or on any platform.Those who need DSLR will be different category of people.And this phone is going to give a big bite on apple.If my pocket does not pinch then there is no question of choice. At present there is not a second in the market.So Thanks to Samsung for their ambitious, innovative, research and production strategies.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

and that strategy for the longest time involves copying from other products?

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techmine
By techmine (10 months ago)

and you must be from all exclusive iWorld, isn't it? do some research...

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

you seem to think everyone suffers from brand fanaticism. can you disprove the previous statement?

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jaygeephoto
By jaygeephoto (10 months ago)

Maybe. Car wash 'n wax in one bottle, Shampoo and conditioner in one, ketchup flavored french fries. I would bet one these (or something like it) on being the darling device among vacationers. Getting a really mediocre photo of the Pope from St. Peter's Square would certainly be more desirable than a truly crappy one. Could we see the Leica name graffitied onto the lens barrel of the next iPhone? God help us.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

the first phone camera hybrid with an optical zoom lens is the nokia n93, so your remarks are what, 7 years too late?

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (10 months ago)

OK, now I want an attachable lens on the Nokia 808 sensor size (1/1.2")
Even a 5xZoom would do if the lens is fast...
but this...this...is...a...good start...
<I made it - without a negative comment>

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

I'd buy 808, if it had Android, and not the dead Symbian.

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techmine
By techmine (10 months ago)

I was waiting for that phone. Nokia, are you listening? Too bad you will be soon sucked into by Microsoft who will forever waste your camera progress/prowess by release it in Windows only phones....

Thinking of getting it while Symbian version lasts.

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eszjay
By eszjay (9 months ago)

You might check out the new Nokia Lumia 1020. It seems that convergence is finally starting to give us devices that do a good job of replacing both compact cameras and smartphones! Not sure which one to get yet. Rumor has it that Nikon is working on one too.

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mosc
By mosc (10 months ago)

The 10x zoom is marketing thing. I want the 1/2.3" sensor and a true wide angle but I'd rather trade some aperture for all that useless telephoto. f6 on that size sensor is practically a wide angle cropped down in usable area anyway.

I can't fault samsung, the 10x zoom will help it sell way more than a 9x that was a stop faster. That said, this isn't going to hit the photographer market that buys things like the RX100 I have in my pocket You want me to buy this instead of a regular S4 (which, I mean you already win there so I dunno how much you care), you should be looking fast aperture wide with image stabilization and a decent flash. Something truly low light capable. I could care less about zooming in.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (10 months ago)

The "camera side" (a dark 10x zoom, 1/2.3-inch sensor) is worth about USD $100 by itself as a bare-bones P&S-cam, so whatever the total price of it will be, all but about a hundred buckaroos will go towards the "cell phone side."

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sportyaccordy
By sportyaccordy (10 months ago)

The best camera you can have is the one thats on you when a great shot comes to you

I have been goofing around with different phones and cameras for years now and have been waiting for a phone like this for YEARS. This is perfect for me. Yes its only a P&S but it is still an upgrade from other smartphones on the market, INCLUDING THE 808. Is it perfect? No but it's definitely a step in the right direction and a huge leap forward for smartphones.

I'm seriously considering selling my NEX C3 setup for this and going full frame for my "serious" camera.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

it is unfortunate that samsung chose to mate the zoom ring with a motor instead of a mechanical solution.

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sportyaccordy
By sportyaccordy (10 months ago)

What cheap + slim P&S have mechanical zoom rings?

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

you were the one talking about selling your NEX C3 setup for it, but if Samsung thinks that having a fly-by-wire zoom on their camera makes it more affordable, durable and photograph friendly, good for them.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

If the ring is mechanical, then the lens will not be as compact collapsed as it is now.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

the XF1 uses a mechanical zoom and it looks pretty compact collapsed. http://fujifilm-x.com/xf1/en/index.html

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (10 months ago)

Why don't you wait till Samsung show off their "BIG" NX phone/camera later this week then sell your "Little" Sony NEX and get that one, you will not look like a fool taking calls with that thing..LOL
http://www.mobilegeeks.de/samsung-galaxy-nx-android-kamera-zeigt-sich-auf-pressefotos/

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

I like this phone, looks like a good compromise. They basically mated their Galaxy S4 mini with their WB30F camera. I'd prefer if they mated the phone with their ST150F or DV150F for even smaller size, but this one is also good. I'd probably buy one of those.

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jmmgarza
By jmmgarza (10 months ago)

Looks like a sweet-little camera phone. Can't wait to see what the competitors come out with. Congrats Samsung. A nice first try.

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Charlie Jin
By Charlie Jin (10 months ago)

This is my dream cam (of course it works as advertised). I always wanted a camera+phone that can take reasonably good pictures (far better than typical phone camera) with photo editing apps like Snapseed, and social apps such as Kakao Story, and cloud apps. Sending the edited pictures through messaging apps such as Kakao Talk, and etc. Finally it arrived.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (10 months ago)

Get a Nokia 808

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nwoowcom
By nwoowcom (10 months ago)

Just want to know does anyone experiencing minor bugs after the <a href="http://www.nwoow.com/techonology/samsung-galaxy-mega-6-3-up-for-pre-orders-rs-30990-40403/">latest</a> firmware update that includes app transfer to sd card? Coz i'm experiencing some.

1. A delay when locking screen
2. A delay when unlocking screen
3. A delay screen rotation
4. A delay when controlling the volume<a href="http://www.nwoow.com"> buttons</a>

So far here they are. I updated my s4 thru wifi using it and not Kies. So overall the update made some of my feautures or transitions to become slower.

So anyone? Hope samsung can fix and see this. I live in the Philippines btw.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

With Nokia 808 at 2x digital zoom will be already worse than this Samsung. Zoomed up to 1.75x it will be better, which is only 49mm equivalent. So if you like 28-50/2.4 lens, it will be better for you.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

at what resolution? how do you know the effectiveness of the noise reduction, sharpening algorithm and image compression of an unreleased phone? can you show the lens on the samsung has less optical aberrations?

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

You only can zoom with Nokia on lower resolutions, i.e. 8MP (2x), 5MP (3x), 3MP (3.6x). You can't zoom at full resolution, of course. At 1.75x you're at 1/2.3" sensor size, that's what Samsung has. Above 1.75x you sensor size becomes even smaller than 1/2.3"
You can also check WB30F sample images, this is what the camera part is, and compare them to Nokia 808.

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Charlie Jin
By Charlie Jin (10 months ago)

Camera Hardware is only half of the story. Does Nokia have Snapseed? Or other various photo editing tools like Samsung (Android) ? Are various social apps such as Kakao Story and Kakao Talk, Vibe, Tumbler, etc. available? How about cloud apps ? Will it be supported in the future?

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

@superyugin1 - no, you are assuming that cropping the sensor output is the only factor in image quality. what you haven't considered is that with a 1/2.3" size at 16mp you are already diffraction limited at f/3.1. at 2x zoom, the galaxy's lens is using an even smaller aperture and producing a blurrier image than at wide open compared to the 808. furthermore, the S4 zoom would need to compensate to maintain the same shutter speed by boosting the ISO (destroying detail), or to maintain the same ISO by using a slower shutter speed (adding motion blur). this doesn't even count the mustache distortion from the 10x zoom lens design. sure, with a static resolution chart, good lighting and a tripod, you can get the S4 to produce a sharp image from 1-10x. but for poor to normal conditions the detail of the S4 Zoom would be worse than the 808 throughout its useful 3x zoom range.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

@Charlie Jin - There is currently no snapseed on symbian or windows phone. given your personal criteria for a dream cam, the nokia 808 is not for you.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

vv50,
if you want a good fixed lens camera phone - Nokia is definitely better. But it's not that much better than Galaxy S4 (non zoom). This camera will surpass both, as it has optical zoom, not digital. Do you think that Nokia 41 MP will have less noise than Samsung at 16MP? I doubt that.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

you don't need to rely on comparisons between the 808 with the S4, when there are already comparisons with the S4 Zoom http://www.nokiapoweruser.com/2013/06/12/imaging-shootout-samsung-galaxy-s4-zoom-vs-808-pureview/ the point remains that in real world conditions, the wider, sharper 808 lens will resolve more detail than the diffraction limited zoom lens that needs a higher ISO to take the same shot up to 3x. beyond 3x the S4 Zoom will outresolve the 808.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

*wider* = wider aperture

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

vv50,
Thanks for the link. I like Samsung images more than Nokia. And this is probably Nokia without any zooming. Will definitely go for Samsung instead of Nokia. Not to mention that it's also Android and not Windows phone. I had many Windows mobile phones, but switched to Android after Microsoft slashed Windows mobile platform, which was pretty good, and switched to closed WP platform. Android is much better.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

I also like that Samsung has 24mm lens instead of just 28mm. I find it a significant advantage over Nokia.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

on the 808 the 28mm equivalent is only with 4:3 ratio, it's also 26mm using 16:9

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

and yes you could be happy that the S4 Zoom chooses ISO 800 to take the same shot where the 808 uses ISO 200.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

Samsung also has 16:9, 4:3 is native for both.
And I think you should be able to control ISO value on Samsung.
I think it's a better spec'd camera than Nokia, bar the sensor size.

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (10 months ago)

Actually the 34Mpix/38Mpix Nokia 808
uses 41Mpix so that BOTH 4:3 and 16:9 are "native resolutions
- or -
if you insist on being so negative
(or on the Dark Side or was it the Dark Room?)
then they *both* are cropped on the Nokia 808
;-)

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

The sensor aspect ratio is 4:3 on Nokia (and Samsung). 16:9 is a crop.

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

no - read it again on dpreview. the 808 does not crop 4:3 (7152x5368) to get 16:9 (7728x4354) - the field of view changes with the ratio. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/27/Nokia-808-PureView-with-41MP-sensor would you also call the panasonic LX5's 4:3 resolution as native and 16:9 is a crop?

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

Battery life?

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (10 months ago)

Why such a poor perform even without the zoom!
I hate when they it even worse with "infrapixels"
AAAAARRRRGGHHH!!!!
I hope Sony will do the same with less zoom and more IQ
or maybe I'll wait for the Nokia 808 Supercam reboot:
Cam of Steel
STEEL shutter
Xenon flash vision
7152 x 5368 pixels = 38 Mpx macro/telescopic vision
f/2.4 Zeiss super fast speed (5 all-aspherical lens elements)
invunarable to impacts
HAAC microphone super hearing (with noice cancellation)
1/1.2 sensor super strenth
on-chip video processor performing image resolution processing with over 1 billion pixels per second super brain power
etc

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Felix E Klee
By Felix E Klee (10 months ago)

Concerning size: The problem is that with conventional lenses, bulkiness of the optics is unavoidable, simply due to physics. But, let's see what the future brings. Fresnel lenses have been known for a long time, but their quality is not suitable for photography. Perhaps the latest advances in micro lens technology (Lytro, etc.) could finally lead to something truly useful.

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dylanbarnhart
By dylanbarnhart (10 months ago)

Android version of Samsung NX mirrorless is coming:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/13/samsung-galaxy-nx-mirrorless-cam/

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Cameras do 1080p do we still need 1080p camcorders

Considering the size of it.. I might as well carry a separate smaller P&S camera.

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Antonio Rojilla
By Antonio Rojilla (10 months ago)

Well, considering that this is actually what I do (carry both a phone and a compact), this Samsung is more than welcome: still smaller and lighter than both devices together, it'll take only one of my pockets instead of two like now, I'll have to deal with only one battery/charging system, only one interface, only one memory card... Sorry you can't see the benefits so maybe you really need to start carrying two devices to see them.

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Donnie G
By Donnie G (10 months ago)

If it's true that there's a sucker born every minute, then it's a certainty that somebody will buy the thing, just not me.

3 upvotes
Antonio Rojilla
By Antonio Rojilla (10 months ago)

Of course, if you don't like it everyone else is an idiot. Killer logic.

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Steve oliphant
By Steve oliphant (10 months ago)

This could very well be the end of real camera stores and thats to bad but the sad fax is the point and shoot people are what feeds these stores .......

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vv50
By vv50 (10 months ago)

if you define "real camera stores" as brick and mortar retailers specializing in photographic equipment, they are closing because online shops like amazon plus giants like walmart, target and their ilk are selling cameras cheaper, not because of the integration of cameras in phones.

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sportyaccordy
By sportyaccordy (10 months ago)

Have you ever been to a "real camera store"? I am pretty sure most people buy P&S online or at places like Best Buy and Walmart. "Real camera stores" are where serious photographers go. And in any case Samsung is in the business of selling electronics, not keeping outdated business models profitable

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Photato
By Photato (10 months ago)

The camera module is the same as the Samsung WB30F, a $140 P&S.
So if anyone is wondering about the camera image quality check the Samsung WB30F reviews.

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (10 months ago)

and the phone seems to be the wimpy S4 mini with it's dual core CPU and quarter HD (960x540) display *=> S4 mini zoom
Lower price, lower risks, mass market???

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9190_galaxy_s4_mini-5375.php

Comment edited 35 seconds after posting
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Lucafeb
By Lucafeb (10 months ago)

S4 screen : 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.0 inches. S4 zoon screen: 960x540-pixel 4.3 inches.
Samsung why did you sacrifice the part of the smartphone people will use the most ? Where do you think people will look at the crappy photos/videos they will take with "S4 zoom" ? At home on their pc or on their retina display mac pro/ipad or on the smartphone ?

if Samsung is thinking about convergence it shouldn't have sacrificed the screen

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JurijTurnsek
By JurijTurnsek (10 months ago)

Battery life and cheaper components. This is a brand new market segment and it has a better change if the price is lower than the flagship. This is P&S, not a serious quality camera.

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wansai
By wansai (10 months ago)

Lol @ all u ppl apouting marketing jargon to describe this.

the review is already out and the IQ is poor. about same level as a mid range smartphone. optically also poor showing corner smudges so severe it encroaches nearly to the center of the frame where it can only de described as decent.

the nokia 808 which is 2-3 times less bulky still outclasses this monstrosity. if you are remotely interested enough in photography to buy this you are far better off just getting an S4, htc one, 928 or iphone5. better optics, better IQ, signifigantly smaller profile.

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Felix E Klee
By Felix E Klee (10 months ago)

How do the cameras you mention compare to the Samsung at max. zoom, concerning level of detail?

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Because an 808 zoom is on its way that will crush this garbage.

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (10 months ago)

iphone mates with Nex 3 - about time!

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Wait what? This has go nothing to do with iphone nor a sony camera, are fanboys so blind that they read every company name as "apple" ?

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noble_elm
By noble_elm (10 months ago)

Will the hump at the bottom of the phone (sort of camera grip) mean larger battery?

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MirosIav
By MirosIav (10 months ago)

The future of P&S cameras. Soon there'll be response from Sony and Nokia... I'd like to see a waterproof model though, even at the expense of the zoom range.

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Nokia is already making a far superior 808 zoom. Coming out soon enough

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (10 months ago)

The wait is over........the end of compact camera market ??

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AllMankind
By AllMankind (10 months ago)

So now we have a camera with a builtin phone... or is it a phone with a builtin real camera?

I guess it had to happen. Sigh.

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Suhas Sudhakar Kulkarni
By Suhas Sudhakar Kulkarni (10 months ago)

Looks like a convenient camera phone for occasions where cant carry the camera

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KonstantinosK
By KonstantinosK (10 months ago)

I think it was just a matter of time for such a product to come up.

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BozillaNZ
By BozillaNZ (10 months ago)

Samsung does not know how to build cameras. Period.

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Antonio Rojilla
By Antonio Rojilla (10 months ago)

They should hire you.

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FBreview
By FBreview (10 months ago)

Congrats Samsung, even your Galaxy "Vario" has a faster zoom than the X-Vario...

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wictred
By wictred (10 months ago)

They better make it weather proof.

Taking all the moisture problems and void warranty issues with the existing samsung phones into account I'd think twice about buying such a monstrosity....

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krassphoto
By krassphoto (10 months ago)

I'm waiting for a full frame DSLR with built-in phone..

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

I sense that you are joking, but a camera like that would surely sell a lot.

Being able to do quick edits and adjustments AND upload directly without having a wi-fi conneciton is something that lots of pro-photographers would love to have instead of dragging along an iPad or PC out in the field to do the same.

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Hugo Martinez
By Hugo Martinez (10 months ago)

With a Bluetooth headpiece, why not?

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Yes mccool69 because we would much rather edit the image on a screen that we can barely see whats going on due to its size. Thas why i use an galaxy s2 for editing my 16 megapixel om-d photos (being sarcastic as well)

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lightleak
By lightleak (10 months ago)

I really hope it has the Samsung trade mark: the famous pink tinted center area aka pink spot problem. I really hope it does, beause if not people might still have the illusion Samsung actually has a customer friendly service.

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Ive got a green spot problem funny enough with my s2 and big banding issues, my nex phone wont be a samsung that is for sure. My old non "smart" phone did not have any issues.

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Gary Dean Mercer Clark
By Gary Dean Mercer Clark (10 months ago)

This will not replace my tiny Sony RX100 or my iPhone. Both slip into my pockets comfortably and are paid for......

Always happy to see new technology and innovation.

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DenisBBergeron
By DenisBBergeron (10 months ago)

Can my next phone have interchangeable lenses, like a mix between a Samsung note 3 and Samsung NX300.

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tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (10 months ago)

Probably yes, wait for it on june, 20th, perhaps.

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grahamdyke
By grahamdyke (10 months ago)

This is genuinly gona kill the compact camera market for the likes of Canon, Nikon, and Panasonic cos they don't make phones, Sony may be ok if they can get it in gear!

I would have bought one if it came out 3 months ago, but just jumped on the TZ40. I had to replace my broken TZ7 and my current Samsung Galaxy Ace Mk1 could really do with a refresh. Would have been perfect...

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

I agree - I think this is highly useful for a lot of people.

Even though lots of people ridicule this now (probably the same group of people that hated it when DSLRs started offering great video capabilities) it is surely something that will be considered as standard features in a few years.

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Winston Loo
By Winston Loo (10 months ago)

Panasonic makes phones

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

The odds are higher that sony goes down than canon or nikon to be honest.

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rfsIII
By rfsIII (10 months ago)

Wahoo!!!! It's about doggone time! This is fantastic. Sign me up for one!

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Gesture
By Gesture (10 months ago)

Not sure I'd use this, but I like that Samsung is pushing the envelope. I sure see a lot of folks using their phones as their camera.

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b534202
By b534202 (10 months ago)

UK only? Nowhere else?

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (10 months ago)

Chelsea FC supporters...LOL

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tbaker
By tbaker (10 months ago)

They should have at least given it a 1/2" sensor and a 720p display, non of which would affect size. Then make the aperture at least start at f2.5 to make it a bit more competitive with the competition(i.e. allow it to shoot at a lower ISO, even it is 500 vs 640). At least it has IS, which is nice. Maybe they can release a more advanced model with 1/2" sensor, raw support and say 7x zoom(f2.5-3.8), 720p display, and release it on every carrier, and you'd have a real hit, specially with DSLC/mirrorless owners looking for a more compact camera.

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sportyaccordy
By sportyaccordy (10 months ago)

Your phone would cost $1000 on the street and nobody would buy it.

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Felix E Klee
By Felix E Klee (10 months ago)

Background blur vs. background distance when shooting "someone's head and shoulders":

http://howmuchblur.com/#compare-3.5x-8mm-f2.4-and-5.62x-43mm-f6.3-on-a-0.9m-wide-subject

Based on specs:

Nokia 808 PureView: 3.5× crop (4:3), 8mm, f/2.4

Samsung Galaxy 4 Zoom at max. zoom: 5.62× crop, 240mm / 5.62 = 43mm, f/6.3

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Felix E Klee
By Felix E Klee (10 months ago)

I want to point out that when doing a 2× crop on the Nokia, then the Nokia "wins" against the Samsung for 20m background. This is because relative to the image width, the blur disk doubles in diameter.

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dylanbarnhart
By dylanbarnhart (10 months ago)

Time has changed. Photography isn't just about the absolute image quality anymore, just like cars aren't just about horse powers anymore. There's a threshold where megapixels are enough and low light performance is adequate. Today, most people usge photography as a way to communicate rather than as an art. As a communication device, the GALAXY S4 ZOOM is king.

How do most people use photography today? They snap what's happening, add some descriptions, optionally perform post processing, upload to facebook/instagram to share with their friends, then read friends comments on the picture. Can a D800 do that? Sure, but it's a lot more klunky. The amazing D800 doesn't have 3G/4G connection, nor does it have facebook built-in. Can an iPhone do that? Sure, but headshots look bloated and bird shots look like a dot in the sky.

Thus is the raison d'être for this hybrid camera. It's not about 2 devices in one, it's the one device that works best for today's typical usage of photography.

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Gesture
By Gesture (10 months ago)

Big Nikon-Best Buy ad in USA Today. Every entryL WiFi with optional adapter.

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contadorfan
By contadorfan (10 months ago)

"How do most people use photography today? They snap what's happening, add some descriptions, optionally perform post processing, upload to facebook/instagram to share with their friends, then read friends comments on the picture."

In Chicago, this is called photojournalism. :)

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Gary Dean Mercer Clark
By Gary Dean Mercer Clark (10 months ago)

Yeah--give a journalist a crappy point and shoot and call him a photojournalist---thanks Sun Times!

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ebrembo
By ebrembo (10 months ago)

megapixels and horsepower are just marketing stuff. i dont think that those interested in photography want just megapixels, they want IMAGE QUALITY, thats why most photografers use a good lens in front of the camera. the same way feel about horsepower those who are intrested in cars.

many people have a car and most have a camera, in or out of their phone. companies just gime their clients a number to make the selection of a car or a camera (-phone) easier.

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mosc
By mosc (10 months ago)

I never find my low light performance adequate, I don't know what you're talking about. Taking indoor pictures without a flash from telephoto distances is not possible from something in your pocket. Not even close. We're not there yet. Light gathering still matters.

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Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (10 months ago)

What a wasted opportunity. Everyone knows by now P&S cameras take about the same level quality of pictures of smartphones. With super zooms only being a good idea in theory but under-utilized, and having about the same pixel density of a smartphone, you aren't really getting too much in terms of photos you're going to want to keep over having the standard S4. I think the S4 lens is a single element F2.0 24mm equiv. The lens on this beast, even slower. Too bad they didn't do anything bold like put a MFT sensor with a pancake zoom lens. That may have been exciting.

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Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

It also would've cost around $1,000 and ended up being around the size of one of the more compact MFT cameras... I'm not saying there wouldn't be a market for that, but it'll surely be infinitely smaller than the mass market appeal of a 10x zoom on a phone that's not much larger than a 2 year old model.

I think a more realistic request would simply be a faster/shorter lens. Make it an f/5 24-125mm or 200mm (like the S110, LF1, etc.) and it'd probably interest more enthusiasts... 10x is definitely easier to market and sell tho, can't fault them for going this direction.

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grahamdyke
By grahamdyke (10 months ago)

10X zoom, 1080p30 video, ok would have liked 1080p60, but thats ok, and a proper Android phone. This is perfect for gigs, concerts and festivals, no more fafing with phone and camera, great.

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

Yeah, this looks really good. I have the WB850 - such a good little camera, long lens, good in low light, small size, wifi - the picture quality is just fine for internet use and also where finer detail and cropping is needed. It covers everything but 'art' photography. In fact, I always have a sense, 'If I could only merge this with my Galaxy Note...' And this hybrid seems like just the answer.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (10 months ago)

Being able to record in the BMP file format suggests the capacity for better than jpeg quality images.

Hope the capacity is real, with real bit depth and as much data recorded as possible.

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DPReview007
By DPReview007 (10 months ago)

OK, so this one was clearly designed by marketing people, not photographers. It was designed to sell, not to take great photos. Two astounding choices:
- they crammed 16 Megapixels on a 28mm2 sensor... Ahhhmmm
- they crammed a 10x zoom into it...

It'll basically give you the same image quality as a crappy little "super zoom" compact...

Let's hope Nokia, Sony and Google Nexus (i.e. Nikon) will make more intelligent choices when they show their hands later this summer / year.

Thankfully, 2013 will be the year of the real camera phone finally.

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Dennis
By Dennis (10 months ago)

Why is the sensor choice astounding ? It's a mass market point & shoot for people who love mobile phones but want a zoom. Nokia might do better, but with Windows. Sony won't do better. I don't know what Nikon might do here, but I'm sure it will be an attempt to stave off the inevitable loss of Coolpix sales to smart phones, so unlikely to be any better.

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Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

There's no way they'd ever cram a larger sensor in there without additional sacrifices and/or a ridiculous price point... Maybe in 3-4 years if the concept catches on. They've already stepped down a number of the phone specs, and something like the RX100 barely fits a 1" sensor in a thicker body with shorter optics...

I agree that a faster 5-7x lens would be preferable tho (f/2 at wide a-la S110/LF1), but zoom range is easier to market/sell and people have it ingrained in their mind that optical zoom is the "only" thing their phone can't do compared to the average compact. It's half true to be honest...

This is meant for the mainstream, it's supposed to be the final nail on the cheap sub-$250 compact... It's gonna be a few years before it's anything more or before it appeals to any more advanced users.

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Photato
By Photato (10 months ago)

@ DPReview007
Skip this one, it will get even better.
20MP 30X zoom. ;-)

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DPReview007
By DPReview007 (10 months ago)

That's precisely the point. The priorities should be:
- large sensor
- fast lens
That give you good low light performance (90% of cell phone photos on my FaceBook are taken at parties / in restaurants in the evening / at night.)

As opposed to a large zoom range (and corresponding slow lens as space is limited) and a large Megapixel count (corresponding to small photo sites...)

Sadly, even most tech reviewer sites today quoted the Mpix count and the zoomX number without saying anything about sensor size as if that was irrelevant...

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

I posted above about my 'crappy little super zoom' WB850. It's ok to have your own preferences, but people get a lot of satisfaction out of cameras that meet their needs well, even if they don't meet your particular needs. It's a little offensive to disparage others' valued possessions.

Making a camera that is 'designed to sell' isn't necessarily something to be scoffed at. Sure, selling some cheap, poor quality stuff is a waste of resources and based on cynical motives, but in this case it is providing a lot of people with exactly what they want. Nothing wrong with that.

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

>> It'll basically give you the same image quality as a crappy little "super zoom" compact...

Yep, and all of those 'crappy little ' compact cameras are far better than any cell phone camera today - by a large margin.

This is not meant to be a super duper camera, but a good compact camera with lots of extra capabilities. And I am sure it will do a great job within that space. After all it has a sensor size that is very common in compact cameras today and that does faaaaaaaaaaa aaaaa aaaaaar better in low light conditions than your cell phone camera.

Have no fear though; in a couple of years this merging of technologies will reach DSLRs as well. Personally I can't wait; dragging along a portable PC to upload event photos more or less as things happen is a pain in the a. I would much rater just do it right from the camera after some cropping and basic adjustments.

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DPReview007
By DPReview007 (10 months ago)

Hmmm, I have never seen a high quality lens that had 10x zoom. The reason is simple. It's impossible to make one.

The sad thing about this camera (from my perspective / for my needs anyway) is that it has a twice as big sensor as the average cell phone camera. But that is completely cancelled out by a high pixel count and a lens that is a stop slower than the lens in an average cell phone camera. The IS should compensate hopefully.

Still, my point is, a lot higher IQ could have been jammed into this device. Samsung opted to please the crowd that understands headline numbers only, and not what makes for high IQ. Which makes perfect business sense.

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DPReview007
By DPReview007 (10 months ago)

...

As an anecdote, I bought my ex GF a Sony RX100 for her birthday. She complained that her sister had a much better little Sony camera because that had a 20x zoom... The fact that the lens in that 20x zoom camera was slow and its sensor was tiny didn't bother her at all :). Clearly, she would have been much happier with a $200 camera with a soft 20x zoom than with the superb $650 camera she got...

Whatever makes the customer happy. Long live capitalism!

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Lux Painter
By Lux Painter (10 months ago)

Darn... I just bought the S4 a few weeks ago.

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theranman
By theranman (10 months ago)

I predict that the major issue with this phone is gonna be the extending lens, and that carrying it in a pocket will cause problems over time...ie...lint getting into the barrel. Hope I'm wrong.

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Photato
By Photato (10 months ago)

No different from any other pocket camera.
The problem i see here though is that you need a pesky 2 year contract and the blessing of the carrier to have it.
Much prefer their other model that is wifi only and use VoIP for phone calls.

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Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

Yeah, as a first attempt at this kinda concept it seems pretty well thought out... But I'm not sure the US mobile phone market logistics and current battery technology will ever make this appealing for me, even if you remove all other compromises and improve the size, lens etc.

As long as I've got two front pockets, I don't think I mind carrying two devices I can upgrade independently and power longer with their own discrete batteries. It's like the whole laptop/tablet argument for something like Surface. For some it's the prefect hybrid, for me it's just a bulky tablet for reading and an cramped laptop for real work.

Choice is good tho, Samsung should be applauded and other phone/camera manufacturers should be taking notice. This is hardly the first time Samsung's created a new niche with a device form factor that was initially mocked by many.

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theranman
By theranman (10 months ago)

Photato, it IS different from any other pocket camera in that being a cell phone, it will see a LOT more pocket ingress/egress than your typical pocket camera. I also would have preferred a 5-7x camera with lower F stop at wide open.

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attomole
By attomole (10 months ago)

reminds me of laptops with printers built in, bit of an evolutionary dead end, at least the Nokia had a fixed lens and zooms by cropping.

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Durandalfr
By Durandalfr (10 months ago)

LOL, people spit on the nokia 808 for having a small bump on the back and not being as flat as GS3, how people cannot put such a big phone into their pocket and blahblahblah. Now you have an hybrid phone/camera with an ugly degigne and miraculously, maybe because it's samsung's, pocket can now contain that king of design. People are brainless.

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Durandalfr
By Durandalfr (10 months ago)

Damn, I had to leave before I could correct the typos and now it's "too late".

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grahamdyke
By grahamdyke (10 months ago)

Not brainless if you always carry a phone and a compact camera. I doubt people who bought the Nokia 808 ever carried both.

This will appeal massively to men who do and who have slightly larger pockets, or women who do and always carry a handbag, pretty much all women then.

The video quality will be great but of course image quality will be, well like a compact camera!

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

I appreciate a lot of the comments here because I learn from them, and see ways things could work better. I'm sure the mfgs get ideas as well.

I just don't understand why there are sooooo many here who are so snobbish. Why do they care what other people like, just because it isn't what they like? Why do they put people down and call them brainless? I don't get it. Do they think it makes them look smart? Skillful? Like good photographers? Most snobbish people I have met are so opinionated that when I look at what they do I have a sense I'm being bullied into liking it - and therefore I like it less.

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

It is quite strange how people behave around new things like this.

The average dpr-reader obviously goes everywhere with10 pounds of DSLR equipment (including a couple of f/1.4-lenses) on their back. And they fail to understand that this camera is not aimed at that kind of buyers at all.

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Anepo
By Anepo (10 months ago)

Canadiancoolpix, welcome to the world of photographers hehehe.

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

Anepo - I guess you mean that photographers are aiming for perfection in expressing their own vision. Yeah, maybe that comes with other characteristics that aren't so noble. Anyhow, I'm glad they exist!

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (10 months ago)

Pretty cool! I like how it starts at 24mm!

I mean....What no full frame?! No F0.95 lens? Only 10x zoom? Why is it so heavy?

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

lol

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Flying Snail
By Flying Snail (10 months ago)

That's real cool. But can you heat your dinner with it too?

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CanadianCoolpix
By CanadianCoolpix (10 months ago)

Yeah, as far as it goes, it might be ok... but geeeze, couldn't they make it double as a backpack? And what if it starts raining, and I need a tent? What the hell use will it be then?

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