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Pentax announces K-50 and K-500 mid- and entry-level DSLRs

By dpreview staff on Jun 12, 2013 at 22:00 GMT

Pentax has refreshed its entry level DSLR lineup with the announcement of the K-50 and K-500. The K50 is an update of the K-30, featuring less controversial styling and slightly tweaked processing, helping it offer a maximum ISO of 51,200. The K-500, meanwhile, gets most of the K-50's features - the main loss being weather sealing - in a less expensive package. While not radically different from the K-30, both cameras bring twin dial controls and 100% glass prism viewfinders to price points ($799 and $599 respectively), where both those features are rare. Alongside the cameras, Pentax is launching revised, DA-L versions of its 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 WR and 55-200mm F4-5.6 WR lenses.

We had a chance to shoot a real-world samples gallery with the K-50 at the cameras' New York launch:

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Press Release:

PENTAX RICOH IMAGING Breaks Tradition with Serious Specifications and Serious Color

PENTAX enhances product offering with two new cameras and two new lenses

Denver, CO (June 12, 2013) — PENTAX RICOH IMAGING AMERICAS CORPORATION today introduced the PENTAX K-50 DSLR featuring advanced functionality beyond its mid-level classification. Ideal for photographers looking to transcend traditional DSLR offerings, the PENTAX K-50 combines a uniquely advanced feature set with a consumer-friendly price tag and 120 color combinations to meet an important additional demand of the creative consumer: personal style.

Rivaling many cameras higher in class, the K-50 boasts a long list of advanced specifications not found in other  mid-level DSLRs. Beginning with its 81weather seals, the K-50 incorporates PENTAX’s long-standing heritage of weather-resistant products making cameras that extend shooting environments to wet, rainy or snowy conditions.  Building on this leading advantage, the K-50 features high-speed continuous shooting at approximately six frames per second, super-high-sensitivity shooting at ISO settings up to 51200 and high-precision SAFOX IXi+ autofocus with accurate subject tracking, guaranteeing crisp images even when in low-light or with a fast moving subject. Additionally, the K-50’s 100% field of view viewfinder, innovative shake reduction system, four optional interchangeable focusing screens and a fast shutter with the ability to shoot at speeds up to 1/6000 of a second enable photographers to push the boundaries of high-speed shooting while providing total confidence that their vision is framed accurately and captured in complete focus. And, with new Eye-fi SD card compatibility built in photo and video sharing a breeze!  Users can enable automatic transmission of images and video to a smartphone for rapid sharing and even select their favorite images and resize them before transmission.

The K-50 is available in 120 brilliant and eye-catching color combinations and sets a new standard in the customization of electronics. PENTAX’s Color to Order™ system takes advantage of a newly architected supply chain management system that is built to empower consumers to design the product they want.

“The K-50 introduces features that raise the bar in the mid-level DSLR class,” said Jim Malcolm, executive vice president, PENTAX RICOH IMAGING AMERICA. “Not only do the hardware and software specs outclass competitors, the Color to Order system is an industry first making it a truly unique offering among a sea of similarity.”

PENTAX has also strengthened its weather-sealed lens lineup with the debut of two new lenses; the smc PENTAX-DA L 18-55mm F3.5-5.6AL WR, and smc PENTAX-DA L 50-200 F4-5.6ED WR.  The addition of these two lenses expands PENTAX’s extensive line of weather-sealed lenses which offer a wide variety of focal lengths and shooting perspectives ensuring there is a lens appropriate for many different shooting and weather scenarios.

Also introduced today is the PENTAX K-500, an entry-level DSLR that augments PENTAX’s DSLR lineup by including advanced features uncommon to the entry-level class. Ideal for families and casual photographers with rigorous demands, the K-500 features a 16 megapixel APS-C CMOS image sensor, fast continuous shooting, high sensitivity shooting up to ISO 51200, 100% field of view, in-body shake reduction, and an advanced auto focus module. Operating on four AA batteries, the K-500 guarantees ultimate flexibility and accessibility to a power source when travelling or in remote locations. In addition, the K-500’s wide selection of simple user-modes and creative tools enable limitless personalized expressions while its intuitive ergonomics and menu layout make the K-500 approachable and comfortable to use.

Both the K-50 and K-500 are built around PENTAX’s acclaimed K-mount system. Thanks to the lasting commitment PENTAX has made to the K-mount photographers are able to use any of the 25 million K-mount lenses that have been manufactured over the life of the mount. Access to this wide a selection is unparalleled and opens up many new perspectives for photographers encouraging boundless creativity.

Pricing and Availability

The K-50 DSLR is available to order today in a choice of 120 color combinations at pentaximaging.com and retail outlets nationwide in July 2013 with a suggested retail price of $699.95 for body only, $799.95 for the kit including DA-L 18-55mm WR lens and $879.95 for the dual lens kit including the DA-L 18-55mm WR and DA-L 50-200mm WR lenses. The K-500 DSLR will be available at retail outlets nationwide and online in July 2013 with a suggested retail price of $599.95 for the kit including the DA-L 18-55mm lens and $699.95 for the dual lens kit including the DA-L 18-55mm and DA-L 50-200mm lenses.

Pentax K50 and K500 specifications

 Pentax K-50Pentax K-500
Price
MSRPBody only: $599/£529; body with 18-55mm WR lens: $779/£599; body with 18-55mm and 50-200m WR lenses: $879Body with 18-55mm kit lens: $599.95/£449.99
Body type
Body typeCompact SLR
Body materialReinforced polycarbonate over stainless steel chassis
Sensor
Max resolution4928 x 3264
Other resolutions4224 x 2816, 3456 x 2304, 2688 x 1792
Image ratio w:h3:2
Effective pixels16 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors17 megapixels
Sensor sizeAPS-C (23.7 x 15.7 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
ProcessorPRIME M
Color spacesRGB, AdobeRGB
Color filter arrayPrimary color filter
Image
ISOAuto, 100 to 51600, in 1, 1/2, 1/3 EV steps
White balance presets9
Custom white balanceYes (3)
Image stabilizationSensor-shift
Uncompressed formatRAW
JPEG quality levelsGood, Better, Best
File format
  • RAW (DNG)
  • JPEG (EXIF 2.3)
  • DCF 2.0 compliant
  • DPOF
  • PIM III
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Phase Detect
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
  • Live View
Digital zoomNo
Manual focusYes
Number of focus points11
Lens mountPentax KAF2
Focal length multiplier1.5×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots921,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeTFT LCD monitor with brightness/color adjustment and AR coating
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeOptical (pentaprism)
Viewfinder coverage100%
Viewfinder magnification0.92×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/6000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Hyper Program (P)
  • Sensitivity Priority (Sv)
  • Shutter Priority (Tv)
  • Aperture Priority (Av)
  • Shutter & Aperture Priority (TAv)
  • Hyper Manual (M)
  • Bulb (B)
  • User (U1, U2)
  • Scene (SCN)
  • Auto Picture (AUTO)
  • Movie
Scene modes
  • Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Macro
  • Moving Object
  • Night Scene Portrait
  • Sunset
  • Blue Sky
  • Forest
  • Night Scene
  • Night Scene HDR (JPG)
  • Night Snap
  • Food
  • Pet
  • Kids
  • Surf & Snow
  • Backlight Silhouette
  • Candlelight
  • Stage Lighting
  • Museum
Built-in flashYes (Pop-up)
Flash range12.00 m (at ISO 100)
External flashYes (Hot-shoe, Wireless)
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Red-eye, Slow Sync, Slow Sync+Redeye, Trailing Curtain Sync, Wireless
Flash X sync speed1/180 sec
Drive modes
  • Single
  • Continuous (Hi, Lo)
  • Self-Timer (12s, 2s)
  • Remote (0s, 3s, continuous)
  • Auto Bracketing (3 frames, standard, timer, remote)
Continuous drive6 fps
Self-timerYes ( 2 or 12 seconds)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±5 (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing±3 (3 frames at 1 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (30,25,24 fps), 1280 x 720 (60,50,30,25,24 fps), 640 x 424 (30,25,24 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, H.264
MicrophoneMono
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMINo
WirelessEye-Fi Connected
Remote controlYes (optional, wired or wireless)
Physical
Environmentally sealedYes (Weather and dust resistant)No
BatteryBattery PackAA
Battery descriptionD-LI109 lithium-ion rechargeable (4 x AA with optional adapter)4 x AA batteries (optional D-LI109 lithium ion battery) battery
Battery Life (CIPA)410710
Weight (inc. batteries)650 g (1.43 lb / 22.93 oz)646 g (1.42 lb / 22.79 oz)
Dimensions130 x 97 x 71 mm (5.12 x 3.82 x 2.8)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingYes (999 shots, 3 sec to 24 hr interval, time delay)
GPSOptional
GPS notesO-GPS1

Additional K-50 images

Additional K-500 images

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I own it
74
I want it
6
I had it
Discuss in the forums
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I own it
36
I want it
4
I had it
Discuss in the forums

Comments

Total comments: 138
12
Luke1
By Luke1 (10 months ago)

Honestly, I'm really disappointed in the styling of these models. The bold, angular, but compact design of the k-5, k-5 ii, and especially k-30 were to me absolutely awesome. I've always hated the bulbous, bar of soap look that canon goes for. Hope they change it back.

Also I don't know what this says for a true k-5 successor that will blow us all away. Keeping the same great features is nice but they're both getting a little dated. Having a great 24MP sensor, focus peaking, more focus points, maybe an articulating screen, and a ramped up movie mode would be phenomenal. Was expecting a k-300 entry level then a k-3 some time by the end of this year but now I have no idea what they're trying to do here.

1 upvote
cgarrard
By cgarrard (8 months ago)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. K30 great camera, ain't broke. K5, great camera, ain't broke. Keep refining the next models fwith improvements in performance and features and keep the great things that aren't broke.

That's what it seems they are doing to me.

C

0 upvotes
Tan68
By Tan68 (8 months ago)

It is hard to tell with the K50 pictures, but the K500 seems to have some K20 in it. The little finger groove to the right of the lens mount is K20-like...

0 upvotes
Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (10 months ago)

Where is the 24 MP version, and the AA filter less 24 MP version?

BTW - all those colors are nice. But personally I would rather have these choices.

* AA or no AA-filter
* IR-blocking, IR-passing or full spectrum.
* Color or B&W (i.e. Bayer or no Bayer filter).

Much more interesting choices IMHO.

If you pre order, Pentax could assemble the sensor package according to specification. At a fee of course, and at a slight delivery time. Might not be all that expensive.

Comment edited 4 minutes after posting
1 upvote
abortabort
By abortabort (10 months ago)

1) Pentax don't assemble the sensor 'package'
2) This is an entry-level and mid-level SLRs. Think about it.
3) Sounds like you want an SD1 with no AA (but doesn't need one), No Bayer (but doesn't need one) and IR filter is user removable.

Enjoy.

0 upvotes
Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (10 months ago)

Yeah ... the SD1 fits some of the requirements.

But, unfortunately

1. ... it has the wrong lens mount.
2. ... it has quite bad red performance, thus also IR.
3. ... it has quite bad high ISO performance.
4. ... its quite expensive.
5. ... it does not have LiveView, essential for IR photography and fine focussing.

Otherwise, its very nice :)

0 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (8 months ago)

Full spectrum would be nice, like the Canon 20Da and 60Da, only a step further- full spectrum not just IR.

C

0 upvotes
jaygeephoto
By jaygeephoto (10 months ago)

I have recently purchased a WG-3 camera and am very impressed by it’s capabilities. Since I am a professional photographer and own some very bulky and expensive equipment, I thought this camera would be perfect for the many outdoor activities I enjoy.

I was equally surprised to find out however how few people know about this camera. I take every opportunity to show it off especially to my friends who are outdoor sports enthusiasts. Their reaction is almost always the same: “this is cool, -I didn’t even know they made this – where can I get one – I’ve never seen this in stores – does Pentax still make cameras?” After researching Pentax products further I feel that the entire line of very capable cameras is very much under-represented in the marketplace, especially in New England and the US in general.

The K-50 raises the bar again. Take that cheapo big-box-store Canon Rebel out in the rain - not.

2 upvotes
dual12
By dual12 (9 months ago)

I agree. Pentax is very underrated. The Sony sensors are clearly and measurably better than Canon's and the lenses are often better too (at the same price point).

0 upvotes
TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (10 months ago)

Just taking a closer look at the pictures of the K-50 / K-500 (Thank you DPReview for posting such detailed pictures!) and just noticed the U1 and U2 settings on the mode dial. I could totally use that! When I shoot at my daughters' gymnastic club, I'd be shooting manual, but then I could set-up U1 to shoot with a smaller aperture when capturing groups, and then I could set-up U2 to use a slower shutter speed to get more motion blur pictures. And quickly flip back and forth in between shots. Cool!

I see that the K-30 had that too, but I didn't notice it back then.

I'm thinking one of these three cameras is probably going to be what I finally replace my Pentax K100D with . . . :)

0 upvotes
Sean Nelson
By Sean Nelson (10 months ago)

Very, very glad to see Pentax keeping the AA battery option alive!

I've been wanting a good hybrid stills/video camera for some time now and I've been just about ready to buy into the M43 system. I may just hold off to see how well the video implementation on these cameras is. If it's half decent I may stay with Pentax a bit longer to get a bit more use from my collection of lenses. Sure wish they'd support 1080p60, though...

0 upvotes
Dave C 150
By Dave C 150 (10 months ago)

Apart from the AA batteries, Pentax Li batteries are compatible through K-m, K-x, K-r and K30 at least and possibly more.

0 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

Well, I guess cosmetic "engineering" is not just Canon's idea. 13 months since k-30, and NOTHING is new.

2 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

How come k-500 has 710 shots on 4 AA batteries, and k-50 only 410 (on the included Li battery?)

0 upvotes
leomartinez
By leomartinez (10 months ago)

Only DNG RAW after Adobe arrogance demonstration? No, thank you.

0 upvotes
WordsOfFarewell
By WordsOfFarewell (10 months ago)

Still waiting for a 24MP K3 with better dynamic range. :(

3 upvotes
kff
By kff (10 months ago)

Pentax makes wonderful and useful cameras ...

but:

The way is a full wi-fi remote control and LifeView not Eye-fi SD card ... see Samsung NX300 ... what a pity - Samsung doesn't have AF adapter for Pentax lenses !!!
And next a big value of NX ... The code of the Samsung NX mirrorless cameras is now available as open source .... and it is a very wise !!!

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
1 upvote
Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

Well, it is obvious that photography today is not about art of taking amazing photos, seeking moments that accelerate photographer's perspiration and change perspective on world, but about everything else. The wrapping, the ribbon, the pretence, finding whatever latest wireless and virtual excuse why not to break sweat — it's all about how to transfer whatever rubbish we capture quickly onto the Facebook, to show it off even quicker in order to get some 'Likes'. It doesn't matter if the camera is superbly designed for taking amazing photos and prolonging of immersive experience — who cares! It needs to be constantly interrupted so we can go online and show off.
Puppies barking for biscuits. Not photographers at all.

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 5 minutes after posting
6 upvotes
LWW
By LWW (10 months ago)

So right, and eloquently stated. So many with a 'depth of knowledge' in cameras - but not a lot to show with image impact.

1 upvote
Iskender
By Iskender (10 months ago)

Zvonimir Tosic: saying that in a DPR camera release comments thread is just the pot calling the kettle black.

Step away from the computer if you're actually into taking pictures.

0 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

Who need full WiFi control? 0.1% of people who lug a tripod together with their compact camera but still cannot get they hands on the camera itself? Why control the camera through touch screen of your phone when you can control it through much more convenient physical buttons and dials?

1 upvote
Wayne Vaughan
By Wayne Vaughan (10 months ago)

I bought Pentax's cameras. AA batteries are one of the important reasons ! I hate to bring serveral chargers for the same make of cameras. IT is NOT earth friendly and is just another trick to make money. Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic have "dozens" of batteries which are totally imcompatible with each other. Are such batteries technologicial better ?? Of course NOT ! Pentax is the only of the few companies using AA batteries as a standard option . They should be proud of their contribution to protect the earth. Not only the performace is better, it does good to our luggage (without some proprietary chargers!!) I suggest the consumer protection should look into this matter seriouly ! I see no point in having different batteris for Canon 5D series. It is a scam.....Pentax does a great job and should keep it up !

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

Sustainability and looking long term is also why Ricoh GR does not come with a proprietary charger, but it charges the battery via the USB. Many "reviewers" have booed that move, but in fact, environmental issues are more complex and affect photography to a greater extent than what such poor reviewers can comprehend.

Comment edited 49 seconds after posting
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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (10 months ago)

I tried the AA route with the Pentax KX. Found its not worth the hassle. Four AA cells you have to keep track of, remove, and pack in the right way. Far worse power density: the Li battery in most comparable cameras is half the size for the same shot count. And, the kicker: flaky battery life indicator, you never know when the cells are going to die on you.

There is a debate to be had about photography, well gadgets in general, and the environment, but AA, even eneloops which I use for just about everything these days, are not really the answer for dSLRs at any rate.

Comment edited 59 seconds after posting
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Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

I guess all those complaining about AA batteries aren't checking the specs before commenting: CIPA is 710 shots with 4xAA batteries, which is impressive, versus 410 with the D-LI109 battery pack.

5 upvotes
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (10 months ago)

710 with *lithium* AA cells, much .. much! ... less with rechargeable NiMH.

0 upvotes
ThomasSwitzerland
By ThomasSwitzerland (10 months ago)

Dear Manufacturers: Don’t get me Porsche (or Leica Joke) but a compact camera with excellent picture quality like a DSLR. I suffer from heavy lenses in huge backpacks.

We now have got better technologies – just bring back the ease of fun to imaging. Leap frog instead of small enhancements. Courage brings success.

3 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

Are you buying a brand-name or a camera?
there are plenty of cameras that will suit your desires.

1 upvote
ThomasSwitzerland
By ThomasSwitzerland (10 months ago)

As this is to me such a hobby of persistence and working in IT up-to-date in my profession: I buy to try better – brand or no brand. Mostly to my experience: Sensors are common. I got out today to make pictures on 6x6 film with the old Pentacon of the sunken Eastern Bloc – just for the feelings.

Each of ourselves must decide what fits best – not the major brands necessarily. I must admit after decades of usages: Nikon got it. I have tried all of them Oly, Leica, Canon ...; all of the common stuff – just my 99 cents.

0 upvotes
NalaKing
By NalaKing (10 months ago)

What does Porsche have to do with you?

0 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (10 months ago)

Hm, in what exactly is that 18-55 new? Previous one on K-5 and so is WR too.. And its not particulary good lens.

2 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

Not sure what's changed, but I have to disagree about the lens.

Optically and mechanically it's one of the better kit lenses OK, no AF motor, but on the plus side it's small, lightweight, build quality is decent, takes a bayonet lens hood, it's weather sealed, and aside from weak corners at 18mm @ f/3.5 optics are good.

It's very difficult to find a bad review of the 18-55 D-AL online:

http://www.lenstip.com/202.11-Lens_review-Pentax_smc_DA_18-55_mm_f_3.5-5.6_AL_II_Summary.html

5 upvotes
sfa1966
By sfa1966 (10 months ago)

What's new is that this is a WR version of the DA-L (plastic mount) kit lens. Previously, WR was only for the metal mount.

0 upvotes
Donnie G
By Donnie G (10 months ago)

These cameras are a very nice freshening up and redo of their excellent K-30 series. I hope that their colorful marketing strategy attracts enough attention to get people to actually pick one up and try it. These cameras deserve to be winners. Go Pentax!

6 upvotes
klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

Given the need for Pentax to build brand awareness, the optional colors seem smart...they would distinguish the P's from the C's and N's.

2 upvotes
thomas2279f
By thomas2279f (10 months ago)

Looks like good cameras; dig the colors, good resolution at 16mp, competitively price and some good lenses.

Only wish was that they included 1 D-LI109 battery with the camera and you may need quite few sets of 4xAA batteries and higher capacity ones to have decent battery life and the battery compartment could get a tad warm as well.

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klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

It does. The AA configuration is what's optional.

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Infrabasse
By Infrabasse (10 months ago)

And actually I find the battery life is a lot larger when you use AA compared to the D-Li109. I'm not sure why some consider AA only cameras a drawback, you need a charger for your flash anyway, so you save space by not having a charger for Li batteries.
Not only that but if you run out of charged Ni-mh cells you can pick up AAs in any local shop.

4 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

You are allowed to use rechargeable Li-ion AA batteries you know!
And CIPA is 710 shots with AA.
What exactly are you complaining about?

Comment edited 6 minutes after posting
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Sonyshine
By Sonyshine (10 months ago)

Nice solid old-fashion DSLR's that will no doubt be well built, reliable and produce good images . But where is the modern tech? EVF's decent live view and video? Kudos for Pentax for being brave/mad enough to offer colour options too!

2 upvotes
D1N0
By D1N0 (10 months ago)

dslr's don't have EVF's they got something better. It's called OVF.

20 upvotes
role_of_72
By role_of_72 (10 months ago)

Apart from the AA battery thing this is what I call value for money!
Now let's see some good lens to come, Pentax ;)

1 upvote
LensBeginner
By LensBeginner (10 months ago)

Why "apart from"?
I find rechargeable AA very practical.

9 upvotes
role_of_72
By role_of_72 (10 months ago)

As they say 'One man's meat is another man's poison'. Some people like AA batteries but I prefer the proprietary ones. You get one with the camera and buy another from ebay almost for free.
With that two batteries you're all set and there's no need to invest in an expensive charger, sets of AA batteries (1.2V vs. 1.5V in most cases so they run out very soon). I have some bad experience with them. Still, it can be an option for some.
An other disadvantage of AAs is weight (charger + battery sets)

You can use AAs with a battery grip as well, but unfortunately as I know the K-30 and alikes don't have this option..

0 upvotes
klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

Using AA's is an option. It comes standard with the LI109.

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role_of_72
By role_of_72 (10 months ago)

The K-500 comes with 4AAs and the LI109 is the option, that was my main concern.

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Infrabasse
By Infrabasse (10 months ago)

I find in my K30, battery life is quite a bit larger using AAs vs the Li109. It's a little heavier but I think that's actually a good thing.
I use eneloop XX and they stay charged for ages.
I use 1 charger for my flashes and camera, don't need to carry 2 chargers. And if you run out of charged cells just get some alcalines at the nearest shop.
Also ebay Li batteries may be cheap but are generally quite inferior to the OEM ones. I wish my K5 took in-body AAs.

NiMh may be 1.2v but to my knowledge this has absolutely no incidence on their capacity. Alcalines' voltage drop faster and the camera has a setting to adapt it's power profile to the type of battery in use. 1.5v may be better for a flash but for a camera it doesn't matter.

The only drawback to me is that you need a battery caddy and it takes a bit longer to swap batteries.

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
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breth
By breth (10 months ago)

These are great, and I'd get the WR version if I was looking for a DSLR.
But Pentax/Ricoh, is it possible you could put out a WR pocketable APS-C sensor mirorless? A "rugged" GR? For many of us hikers/travelers/dirty-hand users, this would be fantastic.

1 upvote
breth
By breth (10 months ago)

forgot to add streetshooters in the rain....

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LensBeginner
By LensBeginner (10 months ago)

It looks like they dropped PEF file format in favor of DNG.
Is it true?
Can someone explain why would they want to do that?

Comment edited 6 minutes after posting
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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

AFAIK, only the K-5ii and K5iis offer PEF support with 14-bit RAW.

Perhaps it's one way to differentiate cameras at the top of the line vs the lower end. For day to day shooting it's not such a big deal.

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LensBeginner
By LensBeginner (10 months ago)

Yeah, ok, but why going down such a dangerous path? take a look at the article on openraw about DNG!

3 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (10 months ago)

Depends on DNG implementation. But yea DNG format isnt exactly best thing..

1 upvote
Juraj Lacko
By Juraj Lacko (10 months ago)

It looks so much nicer than k-30 it replaces

1 upvote
iudex
By iudex (10 months ago)

I dare to differ, in my opinion it looks more conventional/unappealing.

7 upvotes
Heie2
By Heie2 (10 months ago)

Regardless, there's now a camera for both of you :D

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iudex
By iudex (10 months ago)

@Heie2: exactly. I have the K-30 and like the modern design a lot; for those who want something more conservative there is the K-50.

2 upvotes
Infrabasse
By Infrabasse (10 months ago)

Until the K30 gets discontinued.

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Heie2
By Heie2 (10 months ago)

I'm confident the K-30 will be just as capable as it is today 10 years after it's discontinued. What is this nonsense with you kids that as soon as a company says "discontinued" the product magically ceases to function?

Comment edited 34 seconds after posting
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Infrabasse
By Infrabasse (10 months ago)

iudex was talking of a choice between k30 and k50. Soon the K30 will be discontinued and won't be an available choice anymore. I never said discontinued products suddenly became obsolete O_o.

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Heie2
By Heie2 (10 months ago)

Hmm, well then. I misinterpreted your intent :) So I guess the only viable answer is to get the K-30 *now* before supplies run out whenever it's discontinued! :D

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senn_b
By senn_b (10 months ago)

here are two questions :
1) how long will it take to DP to issue reviews of both camera ?
2) will they be outsourced or home made reviews ?

1 upvote
Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

1) Judging by the K5II, it will take 9 months.
2) Let's say .. home made.

0 upvotes
arpikusz
By arpikusz (10 months ago)

Is it just me, or are the K-30 the K-50 and the K-500 essentially the same camera? :-/

4 upvotes
senn_b
By senn_b (10 months ago)

have a look of DP comparison ..
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7885360476/first-impressions-of-the-pentax-k50-and-k500

0 upvotes
klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

Pentax says as much--if you don't need WR, the K-500 lets you get the package w/o paying for what you don't want.

1 upvote
Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

I would have liked to see Pentax make this a mirrorless, with a removable adapter on the front, to use legacy lenses, or removed, to use lenses with a shorter flange to sensor distance.
It would make for good competition to mirrorless (apsc and mft), as well as prism and mirror systems. When it comes to saving a company, bringing it back into black ink, offering incentives for new lenses could be of immense help.

I'm glad to see Pentax still in the game, and rejuvenating their line.
I'm predicting that the weather-sealed version will sell better than the slightly less expensive version.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

They tried that already. You can get the K-01 for practically nothing. Some of that was the awful styling, but more was that mirrorless buyers want a slim camera. If you have to make it the size of a dslr, might as well make one.

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Infrabasse
By Infrabasse (10 months ago)

K-01 uses the same flange distance thus it's still a bulky camera when it could have been slimmer.
But to me slimmer is only good when the lenses you're gonna use aren't too large, using a 70-200 on such a body would be pretty unbalanced.
And with K-01 they made the mistake of keeping it bulky and making the grip less "grippable". I haven't handled one but it looks like the grip isn't as secure as the finger wrap around style you get on conventional dSLRs. That's my opinion anyway.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

That is exactly what I am talking about: a k01 with the extra section that could be removed, so you can have a slimmer design. Instead, they just removed the mirror but kept the same distance with no option to reduce that. It could have been a painless way to venture into those waters, keep the existing clients happy, but also introduce new lenses, for new customers, who would buy more lenses from Pentax instead of getting legacy lenses off of ebay. A camera company's profitability comes from selling lenses and accessories, not so much from the initial body.

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Tap0
By Tap0 (10 months ago)

Dear Pentax,

There is a significant fan following of Pentax in India, which is a very fast growing DSLR market. Request you to please officially launch the brand in India and release your products here as well.

Regards.

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Heie2
By Heie2 (10 months ago)

I agree entirely - Pentax should absolutely devote significant resources to India.

6 upvotes
RonakG
By RonakG (10 months ago)

Absolutely agree. I'm really amazed why are they ignoring such a huge upcoming market for DSLRs.

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fisherman_lol
By fisherman_lol (10 months ago)

I agree too, especially Indian culture is a very lively culture and they love colors. I think these colorful cameras will sale really good in India.

4 upvotes
mauritsvw
By mauritsvw (10 months ago)

And I too agree. I almost can't believe Pentax hasn't grabbed that opportunity yet.

Regards

4 upvotes
drummercam
By drummercam (10 months ago)

More significant from Pentax than these two particular cameras: "newly architected supply chain management system that is built to empower consumers to design the product they want."

2 upvotes
robbo d
By robbo d (10 months ago)

Wow, with the choice and prices now, I'll upgrade the Kx soon. These are killer prices for what you get.
Begs the question now, what the upper level announcement will be. The 24mp sensor, tilt and touch screen with a movie mode to satisfy those interested......a three or four Dslr line up will be a big step forward.
I also would like to see a dedicated Ricoh home printer system aka Canon pixma to match your Pentax Ricoh cameras. That seems to me to be a natural progression for marketing and increased product value. Linked with a Bluetooth or WiFi system.

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vapentaxuser
By vapentaxuser (10 months ago)

I am interested to hear what the company's plan is to market these cameras in such a way so it will reach a wider audience.

Maybe it's just me, but I like the styling of the K-30 better than the K-50. But aesthetics aside, you get a lot of camera for your money with both of these models. I also think it's awesome they brought out lighter-weight versions of their WR kit lenses.

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DarylK
By DarylK (10 months ago)

They really need to break down some walls and get into the chain brick & mortar stores and on display right next to the other entry level cameras, then let the consumers decide what is important to them. I believe that for many who truly analyse their choices, these cameras would compete very well given their relative feature sets and price .

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Bootsy Frost
By Bootsy Frost (10 months ago)

I agree seeing and feeling is believing and handling in store would without a doubt generate sales and then market share. Many people will buy online, but often since you just can't find a outlet that carries them most wont take the risk of not enjoying the operation and having to go through the hassle of shipping the thing back!

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Shahidur Rahman
By Shahidur Rahman (10 months ago)

I love the white K-50!!

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citrontokyo
By citrontokyo (10 months ago)

Storm Trooper is a classic.

1 upvote
Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (10 months ago)

OMG, this is real. I was thinking there is no way there will be a K-30 replacement so soon and with so little improvements. I always consider K-30 above entry level so was expecting 18 month product cycle.

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new boyz
By new boyz (10 months ago)

Too soon and too little improvement are harmonious. Expect major upgrades in a year or so.

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Adrian Van
By Adrian Van (10 months ago)

Photos of camera look very attractive in white. Always liked the compactness of Pentax. Nice, they have the twin dials and controls and good price. Almost bought a Pentax, awhile ago, my brother did buy one and likes his earlier model. Maybe I will buy one in the future as a light carry around camera for travel. Good work Pentax!

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Heie2
By Heie2 (10 months ago)

You won't regret it! :D

4 upvotes
samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

I really hope Pentax has more up their sleeve than these two Cameras.
You can get a new k-5 for $600 & k-5II for $800, and even less for used. These models don't really make any sense to me.
You know what we want Pentax. Lower shelf models ain't it.

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senn_b
By senn_b (10 months ago)

you're comparing street prices of former models with official prices of just announced new models; .. does that make any sense ?

1 upvote
marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

I'm so glad they updated the 18-55 kit lens (the plastic mount one seen in the bottom two K-500 photos, not the WR). Does anyone know if it has a metal lens mount?

I like the 18-55 3.5-4.5 DL, it's a good kit lens optically, but the all-plastic version just makes me nervous.

I wonder why Pentax doesn't put SDM in the 18-55 WR? That would be a sweet lens, but I guess an AF motor would drive costs up and the physical size of the lens would need to be larger.

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samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

More entry level bodies, yawn. That's just what Pentax needs...

3 upvotes
audiobomber
By audiobomber (10 months ago)

Pentax has not had an entry level body since the K-r was discontinued last year. The K-500 plugs a big hole in the line. I'm not sure what the K-50 is for though, it just seems a cosmetically different K-30.

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

These two cameras are "entry-level" in name only. They are absolutely loaded with specs like 100% Pentaprism VFs and dual command dials, features that simply do not exist in entry level models from Canikon.

9 upvotes
klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

Seems like a good move. However, if I wanted one and already had lenses, I'd pick up a K-30 at B&H for $499 while they last.

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

So would I. The K-30 is a terrific camera. And $499 is an incredibly good deal. When I purchased by K-30 from B&H, not too long ago, it was $849.

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Dave Luttmann
By Dave Luttmann (10 months ago)

Earth to Pentax....no more entry level cameras. Good lord, you've got more entry level cameras then Klinger has dresses.

9 upvotes
klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

Still a pretty big market for those, and these models look pretty good next to their emasculated Canikon peers. Perhaps it helps not to have a corporation hobbling its affordable models in order to drive buyers into a FF market that may be best for some, but not for others. Whether lack of brand recognition keeps customers away is another issue.

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (10 months ago)

If you want a mid-range traditionalist dSLR, Ricoh-Pentax has you covered better than anyone.

Unfortunately,

1. the tradationalist dSLR user base has gone upmarket.
2. the entry level segment has gone mirrorless.
3. technology pace has slowed such that the high-end model from a year or so back is cheaper and better than the just-released mid-range model.
4. sadly, the entry/mid level market is *still* megapixel driven. "oh, it only has 16 megapixels. The Nikon D5200 has *twenty four*..."

I wish them every success with this, but I fear they are fighting a losing battle.

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

Yep, Nikon also must have nightmares and fighting a losing battle because their entry level camera has 50% more megapixels than their top of the line, über-expensive D4.

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

No the entry level DSLR segment has not "gone mirrorless" as DSLRs have been outselling MILCs by at least 3 to 1.

I sell a lot of gear on Ebay. My DSLR gear is by far the easiest to sell. Every MILC I've ever sold, often 1 month old cameras, I had to reduce the price significantly or wait just to make a sale. My NEX-3N, EPL-5, X-Pro1 - I took huge price hits in order to sell them. My D7000, 5D Mk II, D3200, K-30 - I didn't lose a penny on them and on some I actually profited.

Are some customers buying MILCs? Of course. Are entry to mid range DSLRs any less popular, being replaced by mirrorless? Not at all.

Re: megapixels, there is virtually no IQ penalty to increasing resolution. Case in point, the D5200 / D7100 are class leaders for IQ, and they offer for more options for cropping, and printing large than the 16 mp, last generation APS-C cameras.

The D4 is a special case, built for photojournalism and sports so pushing large files over the wire is not needed.

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Hugo808
By Hugo808 (10 months ago)

"Yep, Nikon also must have nightmares and fighting a losing battle because their entry level camera has 50% more megapixels than their top of the line, über-expensive D4."

Just as well that more pixels doesn't mean better pictures, though Nikon are probably victims of trying to persuade people that more does mean better.

The D$ is aimed at sport and wedding photographers that need speed and it's hard to shift 24mps worth of data 10 times a second for any length of time.

Pros are also more likely to know that 16mps are enough for anybody for anything.

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Barry Fitzgerald
By Barry Fitzgerald (10 months ago)

Pentax show they can put out well crafted photographer geared (dual dials, 100% prism VF), great bang per buck bodies. Sadly they insist on huge price increases on their lens range pretty much wiping out any interest most buyers might have.

Ricoh are doing exactly the same as Hoya did, price gouging on lenses. It really hurts Pentax and their potential.

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

I don't know where you live (US?) and what exactly you are referring to, and what do you expect, but where I live the prices of Pentax lenses were same for years, and have, in fact, dropped a little recently and lenses are more affordable than ever.
So we are quite happy with Pentax, thank you.

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Barry Fitzgerald
By Barry Fitzgerald (10 months ago)

I've a good knowledge of prices on lenses and have done for some time. USA prices went up massively, they went up a lot in Europe too. It's a problem for the company and holds them back.

By "we" you must mean "you" as I'm sure you don't speak for everyone.

Credit where it's due for making some good bodies, but marketing counts and 16mp nice and all folks will carry on buying 24mp Nikon DSLR's with crippled features and bad viewfinders. That's a shame, but Pentax need to do more than just offer another bunch of 16mp bodies.

They've no real high end APS-C model (K5II was just a bug fix for the bad AF module mostly), and no FF one either. Pentax don't need 2 more entry models.

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klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

In the US, many of us have found that some large online retailers can quote lower lens prices over the phone. Case in point, a 15mm Limited lens is $100/20% higher online everywhere than what I was quoted this afternoon on the phone by Adorama. Whether that brings prices into buyers' wanted range is up to the individual.

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

After the Leica's announcement a day before and after seeing what Leica thinks an interesting and smart camera is for today's times and sensitivities, these new offers from Pentax Ricoh look like a sudden discovery of fresh air and sanity.

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

I'm a huge fan of the K-30. It's 100% Pentaprism VF, great ergonomics, and weather sealing really separate it from other entry to mid-level bodies.

The only thing about Pentax that bother me is for some reason they started raising the prices of their lenses. Even the older screw driver, non-SDM zooms, and all the DA* primes, the 100 2.8 WR macro, and most significantly for me, the 16-50 2.8 and 50-135 2.8, which they almost doubled in price. These are APS-C lenses, that Pentax is pricing like FF glass.
But the bodies are great - the superb K-5, the K-30, and now these two cameras. That's a heck of a line-up. Two command dials and a 100% finder on all bodies. I'm impressed.

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Gesture
By Gesture (10 months ago)

Just what they needed to have a lineup of models like Sony, Canon, Nikon, although not clear if K-30 continues. Not difficult to engineer, as opposed to doing a full frame camera.

1 upvote
Kfrog
By Kfrog (10 months ago)

I like it. Pentax is getting itself in gear and doing things a little bit different from the competition. I do prefer the weather sealed version for my use. I was certain I would get a K-5II but now I may give this one a look.

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DarylK
By DarylK (10 months ago)

100% Glass prism viewfinder, dual dial controls, what appears to be good ergonomics similar to other Pentax's, weather sealing if you like, shake reduction for any lens you mount, a stellar/proven sensor that it terrific at higher ISOs and a price that seems to be competitive to competitors' cameras that do not have these features (except for maybe the Sony sensor)...looks like an excellent value for those who really scruitize what they need.

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Shahidur Rahman
By Shahidur Rahman (10 months ago)

What PENTAX only need now is a strong line-up of lenses!

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Heie2
By Heie2 (10 months ago)

What PENTAX really need now is for people to realize that unless you are in need of 300mm f/2.8 and longer/faster or the MPE-65 1:1-5:1 macro or tilt shift lenses, chances are, Pentax has the lenses you need. And there are MANY that aren't available from *any* other brand. I have 12 lenses myself with only 2 Sigma Lenses. I fail to see how that is a "weak" line up, especially considering how most of it is weather sealed. What Pentax needs is exposure, I will give you that - but to call the line up "weak" is grossly mistaken. "Different" sure, but not weak. And if you are primarily a prime lens shooter? Then I challenge you to find a stronger line up than the DA/FA Limited's.

6 upvotes
qwertyasdf
By qwertyasdf (10 months ago)

What PENTAX only need now is a strong rebate on lenses!

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KonstantinosK
By KonstantinosK (10 months ago)

I'm sorry about the toning down of the K-50's design compared to the K-30. Was it really too much for potential buyers to swallow? I can understand it up to a point for the K-01, but the K-30 looked fabulous, in my opinion. There are enough melted soaps coming out from CanoSonyKons. Other than that, I love the gazillion color combinations on offer. I wished I had that option for the K-5... (I'm not commending on specs as I'm sure they will both be excellent stills cameras in their categories).

9 upvotes
Guidenet
By Guidenet (10 months ago)

I completely agree with you. I was surprised they mentioned it because I always felt the K30 was a very stylish and good looking camera.

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iudex
By iudex (10 months ago)

Exactly, after interesting and slightly extravagant styling of the K-30 (which I still love) comes this traditional, unappealing design. From my POV this is a step back (meaning only design, not other specs).

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klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

BTW, unless I missed it, this story doesn't mention that both models have focus peaking, which, together with IBIS and green button metering, makes macro shooting and use of old manual focus lenses very nice. I picked up a cheap K-01 with focus peaking awhile back and love it with a classic Vivitar 105mm Series II macro lens.

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DonThomaso
By DonThomaso (10 months ago)

All cameras based on the 'Prime M' processor has come with focus peaking (K-01, K-30) so I would assume that these two also will.

1 upvote
Fabio Pirovano
By Fabio Pirovano (10 months ago)

Got a brand new K30 state of art camera.. period.

4 upvotes
Robbie Corrigan
By Robbie Corrigan (10 months ago)

Intelligent offerings. Not crippled like the competition and having genuine usability extras like the twin dial setup and pentaprism viewfinder.

9 upvotes
klavrack
By klavrack (10 months ago)

Not sure I'd buy into the Pentax system from scratch, but these have enough great features for their price that they should keep up the pressure on the big boys. Glad to see it!

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