Leica teases 'Mini M' for 11th June release: Digital Photography Review

Even another crop sensor M would be a great addition to the lineup. Something like an updated M8 that could compete with Fuji Prices!

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When they start machining Fuji's out of solid blocks of metal, then Fuji will cost what Leica's do.

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Half of an M-E and double that of an X-E1… Would a $2500-3000 cropped M be all that bad?

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It will have to blow away the Fuji XE-1 to be worth it. At full frame, I think it could.

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Blow it away in what way?

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It must be heavier

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It must be more expensive.

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It must be blowing hard.

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Re-badged MFT?
Aren't they already MFT consortium members?
Don't they already rebadge Oly and Panny products?
EP5 rebadge or derivative? (obviosly with an oval body plan).
The big question then is would they make their own lenses or lend their name to AF Oly/Panny lenses (perhaps developed especially for the Leica brand)?

To me a standalone RF-less , presumably MF,full frame does not make much sense unless they released a line of glass for it.
Simply building a camera to adapt other people's glass sounds crazy.
And it does not seem reasonable to release a line of glass for something like that.
Be interesting to see.

Or going completely the other way, and interchangeable lens X2.

The least interesting would be a fixed lens FF.
This is what I actually suspect. An RX1 killer. Or at least competitor.

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Leica has an agreement with Panasonic, not Olympus. The GF1 was such an awesome camera because Panasonic made it expecting Leica to re-badge it. The zoom lens was idiosyncratically great for the same reason.

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FF mini M w/built in EVF (upper left hand corner) live view camera for $3,000.00 USD.

I might buy it.

Carl

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I would bet on an M-E Typ 220 without rangefinder but with an EVF. Price north of $4K.

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A Leica branded mobile phone. That way, people can conveniently spend all day showing off the brand name. :-)

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LOL!

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No, Leica phone would have a rotary dial.
I'd rather have them stick to cameras and lenses.

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Lol! I thought the Leica M case for the iPhone already existed:
http://www.zazzle.com/leica+iphone+cases

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A mobile phone ("M") with no address book - because "real telephony enthusiasts memorize all numbers and dialing manually is the 'soul' of telephony"

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Imazagi:

Manual focusing is NOT the equivalent of dialing phone numbers from memory. In many instances manual focus (really the only thing possible with M lenses) is faster than auto focus.

Then irony, dialing a phone number from memory is sometimes faster than looking for it in a large electronic directory or picking it from the options offered by that directory as you start to punch in the phone number. Don't start with voice commands.

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My guess is a leica version of the sony RX1. Since it's above the X2, it's likely to have a FF, and since it's below the M and M-E, likely to have a fixed lens. Should be very cool!

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The Sony RX1 has interchangeable lenses?

Leica M lenses can be made to autofocus? (Well maybe with that moving film/sensor plane trick Contax had for a while.)

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HowaboutRAW

Ron A 19 made perfect sense to me and never said or implied that the RX1 has interchangeable lenses.

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They already have the other fixed-lens camera. The Sony is a bit of a joke. They could have had a jump on Canon and Nikon if they'd released a FF with interchangeable lenses, but decided to make a $3000 mirror-less camera as inflexible as they could.

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rjx:

Reread what Ron 19 A wrote, his post most certainly implies that RX1 has interchangeable lenses.

RichRMA:

The 2 full framed Leica Ms have s big jump on the Sony RX1; the Leicas have that curved micro lens array. Sure Sony was testing the waters with the RX1, but Sony would need to develop a similar array if it wanted to do an interchangeable lens "full framed" mirrorless digital able to take full advantage of good Zeiss/Minolta lenses.

The Leica M mount is in the public domain, if Sony would leave off doing autofocus and develop the micro lens array, Sony could develop then sell their own M rangefinders, which could take all sorts of M mount lenses, Konica, Zeiss, Leica, and I believe Minolta's.

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Ron A 19+rjx:

To be clearer, I think it extraordinarily unlikely that Leica will ever attach the M name to a camera that doesn't take M lenses, so that rules out a fixed lens setup.

(All bets are off if the Leica camera-lens company is bought out by some idiotic noncamera fund.)

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They associated the M name to the X2 as a "micro M" and associated the M name to the D-LUX6 as a "nano M". They already "attach" the M name to a camera with a fixed lens setup. Your argument is invalid.

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Ron A:

You mean that the Panasonic LX7 is now a mini M? Is that also true of my LX5?

Look Leica can market this anyway it wants, but no one who is serious about Leica lenses and cameras would treat anything from Leica that does not take interchangeable M lenses as an M body of any type whatsoever.

Again, because I can't mount M lenses on my Panasonic LX5 (aka a D-Lux5), it's not going to be treated as an M body by anybody.

What this means is that Leica doesn't take the preposterous position of putting an M on the D-Lux 6's body.

(I guess they could start, and I'd be wrong, but Leica and the buyers of that "M" would be laughed at for very good reasons.)

And no, a Sony Nex with an adapter to Leica M aint an M body either, though it sure is closer than a Panasonic LX7.

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Ron A:

You do understand that only one of those cameras pictured above has the letter "M" on the body? The X2 doesn't, nor does the D-Lux 6.

Leica remains unlikely to put the letter "M" on anything other than a camera that natively couples with "M" lenses.

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now, add the EVF viewfinder from Sony and start giving a human and real price range of 1600$ for the body and the thing will be a hit. But as we know Leica's overdriving price policy, it will be again an uncomplete toy for the rich only.

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I'm hoping it will be a DRF similar to Leica CL. Maybe using a 16MP sensor so that the M-E can remain in place as a small step above.

So many Leica haters on here. Not sure why everyone thinks that only rich people buy them. I'm far from rich, but I own a Leica and a 1959 Gretsch guitar. Yes they were both VERY expensive, but I worked and saved until I could afford one.

You have to USE a Leica M camera before you can go off saying how terrible and overpriced they are. Yeah my D800 can do 1000 more things than my Leica M8, but I enjoy shooting my Leica more. Shooting a Leica rangefinder slows you down, makes you think before you shoot. It takes more finesse. It's not something easily explained.

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Agreed. Magic is made between those white frame lines. And waiting for the image to come into balance, while seeing what is excluded, and shooting with both eyes wide open is the leica experience. Try it before you knock it. Don't close one eye.

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If I say affordable, i speak about 1600$, that is what a good and stable built body is worth. When a Leica M sells around 7500 to 9000$ for a body without lens, you can not say that this is made for the poor, nor is made for the common mortal. There is not more material and development in a Leica M than in a NEX. So, what makes than a Leica body worth 7500$.
I would buy a Leica because I like the look and also like manual shooting, but not for that price. I do not say I can't afford it, I just claim that it is overdriven pricing. Somewhat same as paying 12000$ for a NEX7 in a Hasselblad skin. One can put a monkey in a 5000$ suit, it will forever remain a monkey. And a digital M Leica is just a digital camera, nothing more, nothing less. If some think it is better and worth 7500$, well, that is just a thought, and with that you can create all you want in this world.

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So you think $1600 is a camera for the poor? There's no such thing as a camera for the poor.

Do you understand that Leica cameras are mostly hand assembled in a place that's not a third world country using the slave labor of children?

Obviously you've never used a Leica extensively, because if you have you'd understand why people are willing to pay the price. Do you complain to your neighbor because his BMW cost a lot more than a Hyundai but they both do the same thing?

If you can't afford it or don't want to pay a premium price for a premium product there is no point in complaining about it. Go buy a NEX and take some pictures.

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I would say that Leica is using its partnership with Panasonic to make a m4/3 body. However it would be odd to position a 4/3 sensor above the X2, so I have to go with a full-frame version of the E-PM series. A pretty smart move IMO.

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I doubt that Leica would place a re-branded camera in between two cameras that have no Panasonic equivalents.

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How expensive is range finder mechanism??

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In the about the year 2001, you could buy a new German made Leica M film body for about 2000usd.

At the same time you could get a very good Konica Hexar M range finder for about 1100usd with a good 50mm Konica lens.

So it's unlikely the range finder even makes up half the cost of the digital Ms. The curved lens array in front of the sensor is probably the most expensive item, but I have no insider knowledge.

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Whose got money to care?

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Leica M 240 without the rangefinder? Yes please.

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Mount the M lenses on any mirrorless system you like, is full frame that important? In that case yes the special curved lens array that's a Leica only feature could be worth it.

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I hope Hasselblad could make a compact digital camera like the Leica V-LUX40. If Hasselblad release affordable compact digital camera, then I would absoutely 100% buy it

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"Hasselblad" is now just a branding marketing company owned by an investment firm. All the cameras they "make" are made by Fuji or now Sony.

At least Leica still make cameras and lenses.

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They still make the best lenses available. It would be great to see something *relatively* affordable from them with an M-mount. Maybe an APS-H like the M8 was?

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I mean, they've positioned this new thing between the full-frame M 240 and the APS-C X2. My curiosity is piqued.

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ah, Leica is still twitching - not dead yet - lets wait and see if they can get it off the ground and running this time. I am sinking...vielleicht.

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Twitching? Last I heard they were turning a healthy profit. Has that changed?

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with that mark up - you süprrrised?

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And your point is what, exactly? Leica is a succesful business, in a strong niche market. Is that so difficult to understand?

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A Low Cost Leica M :)
I'm curious what product will be released.

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Maybe a u4/3 camera with the new Color Splitter sensor?

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I would like to see a Leica mirrorless compact. A Leica m/4/3 to compete with Olympus, Panasonic and Sony. It would be nice for Leica to use the m4/3 mount with their own series of fixed focus lenses. One would also have the option of purchasing a lens mount adapter to use legacy Leica M mount lenses as well. That would be great!

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Lots of lens development and there are already excellent lenses for the Olympus, Samsung and Fuji mirrorless system.

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It will be a BMW mini rebadged as a Leica in a joint venture between the two German companies. Instead of a fuel gauge it will have a rangefinder. The 4MP sensor will be connected to the injection computer to make it possible to spout some video. It will cost 20% more than a BMW mini plus a M9 and will take pictures like any other camera. But everyone will be ecstatic.

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My suspection is APS-C (or APS-H if Leica would feel generous) with interchangable mount (M-mount) and most likely EVF + LCD only.

And Leica price tag, so no need to care really..

Or worse, competition for RX1 - another fixed lens FF. Which obviously like in case of RX1 can be downsized and as RX1 proved, for wealthy users it makes sense (well even others if you can live with one lens).

Clever thing would be mirrorless FF with EVF and focus peaking and M-mount. For reasonable price. It would be very "non-Leica" like way, but they would win market forever.. so who cares.

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Sadly, you are correct. It will most likely be too expensive for any of us to purchase, so why get excited? I'm guessing it will be an m4/3 knock off of the GX1 but with the red dot and priced at $2998.99 with kit lens (maybe $3100 or around that price range).

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It'll be a new R9, i.e, a rebadged Panny G6.

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Considering "micro" is APS-C, it wont be smaller than APS-C sensor.

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"Micro" is APS-C?

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Leicarumors is making a lot more sense of this:
http://leicarumors.com/2013/05/23/what-could-the-leica-mini-m-be.aspx/

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I see a mini version of the new M, with all its bells and whistles, crossed with the old-school charm of the current M-E.
Yes... that's it... a Mini Me.

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In certain sense and few things, M-E is best thing Leica does right now. Apart from S system, but thats stratospherical stuff.

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And here is what it may look like: http://leicarumors.com/2011/03/03/detailed-renderings-of-the-leica-mirrorless-aps-c-camera-concept.aspx/

(but probably not)

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No, it's not going to be a NEX-7.

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Certainly hope not !

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No doubt it will come in at around $3-4K. I will stick with my X100S with IQ that rivals the Leica M. Hybrid VF, f2 lens, and 60p 1080 video are just of the few advantages the X100S has. Let's not forget the $1300 price tag, which makes it much more affordable!

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Let me guess:
Either a rebadged m4/3 or nex, or the famous new apple iLeica :-)
But who cares...

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Maybe it will be a full frame mirrorless that has both full frame and APS-C mode so it could use almost any full frame or APS-C lens using low cost adapters like the Sony NEX-VG900.

http://www.digitalversus.com/camcorder/sony-nex-vg900-p16043/full-frame-sony-nex-put-test-n28888.html

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My guess is the sensor from the X2 with the mount from the M.

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Can't. Pentax already took the MX-1 name. ;)

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Pentax Always had the MX name ;-)
Mind you Panasonic nicked the LX name from Pentax for their rather good compacts. Yes I have one! (The Pano that is, not the Pentax - Yet)
Still, I think the new Leica will be APS-C and use the M-mount, so we will have a rival to the other APS-C mirrorless cameras out there. Could be a great debate. Which has the best optics for the 16MP Sony sensor? Probably Leica. Which has the best lenses a mirrorless camera in the real world. Probably Pentax on their K-01. I know I have one.
An SMC-Takumar 50mm F1.4 v Leica Summilux F1.4 on APS-C and the same sensor? Bring it on! :-)

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How about a live view only model with contrast-detect AF for all M mount lenses by moving the sensor plane?

If Contax AX could move the entire film plane quickly enough, surely it must be easy to do the same with a lightweight sensor today.

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It must be the following two options.

1. FF, fixes lens, (like RX1) but with 28mm Elmarit, new Epson EVF. $3500

2. FF, Leica-M mount, no RF, with built-in new Epson EVF, body slightly thinner and slightly shorter than M9, more in line with M6. - $5000 (my dream camera!!!)
They could also opt for add on EVF and smaller body, (EP5 did) but I'd rather hope they don't.

I don't think they will go for interchangeable m4/3 or APSC format, they can barely keep up with the demand of their M-lenses, they can't handle another lens line.

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1. If this is a full frame fixed focal length camera, the EVF will definitely be an accessory. A 28mm lens on a full frame would be unlikely though. The two go to lenses for most photographers is 35mm and 50mm.

2. A full frame Leica without the expensive rangefinder mechanism makes some sense but how will you focus manual focusing lenses? Focus peaking?

I thought the rangefinder focusing mechanism was 70% of the reason people bought Leica M's?

A rebadged m43rds camera makes more sense, probably a rebadged version of the upcoming Panasonic GX2.

You say Leica can barely keep up production for their M line so it would make even less sense for Leica to come up with an entire new mount, with m43rds they can just sell their body and people will buy it because it says "Leica".

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Yea Im suspecting 1. too Vadimka. 2. is mine, yours and thousand of others dream (but preferably for less than 5000 :D).

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@ photohobbyfun
1. Why would it be unlikely? Leica uses many wider lenses on FF.
I don't know why would most photogs use 35 and 50? I think it's rather 28 and 90, and always been this way in Leica world. To me I'd take 28 over 35 any day, I guess I learned photography with GR camera.

2. You would focus the same way you focus every camera since G1 was introduced in 2008. It's EVF, magnification or peeking. (Preferably both mag and peeking available)

Yes lots of people buy M because of RF, but no one is discontinuing M-E or 240, this is mini version and some people prefer EVF. Plus name one Mirrorless EVF camera with interchangeable lenses and FF, and smaller than M9.

Leica will not be bragging about rebadged Panasonic camera, it will not be rebadged GX.

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Little reason not to save a lot of money and buy into the Fuji X system instead.

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I've seen photographers drooling over the Leica M and when I tell them it doesn't have an autofocusing system they look flabbergasted.

The Leica name carries a lot of weight. Why else would people pay so much more money for their rebadged Panasonic cameras?

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Swiftness of X-E1 or X-Pro1 makes it probably as fast as manual focus. Except with training you can focus faster with M, than you can with X-E1. :D

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You can focus much faster with the X-E1.

Silly boy.

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totally freaking silly lol

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Wow, at $6000, that's a great deal. Shut up and take my money.

Doesn't matter what Leica make. It is going to be 40% over priced.

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Or maybe it's 40% out of your budget!?

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No, if it's just a re-badged Panasonic it's 40% (or more) overpriced.

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@Vadimka

You've been seriously duped if you don't realize that Leica prices their product at a premium because of their name. Their rebadged Panasonic cameras are a perfect example.

I'm not saying Leica doesn't make quality products, they most definitely do but common sense should tell you that you aren't quite getting all of your money's worth.

Again, look at rebadged Panasonic cameras.

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Its not overpriced, its priced perfectly right. Like any Porsche car. Just regular people cant buy it. Leica prices have everything to do with economy and nothing to do with Leica.

Look on your goverment (no matter where you are, its same shtako almost everywhere) and ask why regular job dont make enough money to buy yourself Leica.

Its about bigger picture, perspective of things. Leica just happens to show it more than otheres.

Btw. can you buy H5D?

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First of all, neither M9 nor X2 are rebadged Panasonics.
Secondly, most little digicams are made somewhere in China, with bunch of electronics supplied from Taiwan, and lenses assembled on site as well, etc. So based on this logic you could say that most Canon, Nikon compact p&s are Chinese junk rebadged with Nikon and Canon names priced with 40% premium.

But the fact of the matter, it's a free market environment, some people want it and they buy it.
It's quiet simple, if you think it's overpriced you just don't want it, or can't afford it.

I had LC1 and loved it, but later sold it and bought Leica D2, yes they are the same but people sometimes pay more for design features and just plain looks. I still have and even use D2, and Panasonic is long gone, yes just because it looked like Panasonic.

But enough about p&s toys.
if you want M9 or M240 camera, there is nothing else in the world today that is the same. Canon 5d is not it, I have both so I know.

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the first option is sorely needed, the second would just be nice.

1) fixed 35mm f/2 lens, full frame sensor, rangefinder-style built-in evf, image stabilization, weather sealing, aperture ring and shutter speed dial, ricoh-style snap focus. basically what the sony rx1 should have been.

2) fixed 23mm f2 lens, aps-c sensor, optical viewfinder, no hybrid viewfinder, image stabilization, weather sealing, ricoh-style snap focus. basically what the fuji x100s should have been.

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The Fuji X100S is what the Fuji X100 should have been.

You'll pay thousands more to step up to Leica.

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...or step sideways.

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no you pay thousands more for the neat big red dot. the one that attracts criminals who know what the neat big red dot stands for. X100-100s are def more low-key. Black X100s (when released) = perfect street camera.

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If it is a u4/3 camera...i hope they make some nice manual focus lenses for it.

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It won't be 4/3" format: it is placed above the X2 in the teaser, which is APS-C. Probably an "X2 with interchangeable lenses".

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I find it hard to believe that u4/3 is what Leica is planning

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they may still be part of that so-called "consortium" that ended up with only Panny and Oly as major players, Kodak, Sigma, they were all there. I'd be elated if Sigma made a 12mm F2 4/3 prime.

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The fact that the X2 and D-LUX are lined-up right next to it (and completely ignored the M-E or Monochrome) makes one doubt it is something that significant as another M-Mount camera, because then what would be the value to list those compacts as if they are relevant. My guess is that they are indeed relevant, but not in a good way. Odds are 2:1 aren't they.

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M-E and M-M are still "M", so first place is split into three depending on photographers needs.

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If you look at the image you'll see that they're calling all of them 'M'.

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Really feel like shifting to the M... (after trying out a friend's M9 + Summilux 35).

Summilux 35 FLE is just amazing !!

Then again for a M240 + Summilux 35 FLE, I will need to sell my entire gear of 5DM3, 24-70 2.8LII, 70-200-2.8LIS II, 85 1.2L II, 16-35 2.8L II, 600 EX and some more....

Looks like there may be a cheaper body...(or will it be)..Hope Sony & Fuji are working on a FF body..

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Ouch, that puts it in perspective!

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Buy M-E and older 35mm lens from Leica. It will have still better output at base ISO than 5DMK3.

Tho, even 5DMK2 does, so its not telling that much as I would want to. :D

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They're luxury items now. Investments really. I mean, is there anything these cameras can do that you can't get any other way? Then why spend the extra on them? For intangibles such as the "prestige" and "fit and finish" and things like that. Sure!

Think of it this way, you can buy a Tiffany lamp that costs thousands and thousands of dollars, yet still lights a room no different then any other lamp, but it's a Tiffany! It's the same thing here. Buy a Leica M now and you might be at an Antiques Roadshow 30 years from now.

"Ah, what have you here? Oh, it's an old Leica M! I haven't seen one of these in 25 years. It's in excellent shape too!"

"Thanks"

"What did you pay for it?"

"My father bought this brand new for just under $8000"

"Ah, wonderful. That must have been a lot in those days. Well, at auction, with the market for these things now since the industry moved away from digital 20 years ago, you can expect to get around $30,000 to $40,000 dollars".

"Wow, excellent!"

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You really have no clue!
All Leica buyers must be just idiots or long term investors. I have 2 Leica but I can't touch them now, it's in my 401k account.

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For some maybe. For some its just system that works better for them than others. One thats different. M-cams are not exactly amazing, but lens makes for that loss.

Ive actually seen few people that use M lens on NEX without having M camera. And I mean brand new lens. Simply cause those lens are much better than M-cams. Or Fuji X-trans system etc.

And investment. Well yea. Unless you drop your 50/2 ASPH, it will be with you until you die in age of 100. :D

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Sure, the price will be pretty 'Maxi' ;))

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The more I think about it the more I think that Leica must release a EVF based full-frame M camera in order for the M line to remain relevant. The rangefinder, as elegant as it it is, is a dinosaur.. It is heavy, complicated, in need of constant calibration, (especially with new lenses), expensive and out dated. I looked through the EVF of a Sony nex-6 yesterday and it is *stunning*. Those amazing M lenses deserve a cheaper, more practical M and Leica will suffer if they don't provide it!

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I would chose RX1 instead, even for the same price as this or any other Leica M.

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Instead of what?

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I'd like to see you shoot 28mm with RX1

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Its not impossible to get M8 (or M8.2) for less than RX1 and have money left to get some lens. If you dont need Leica M lens, there are plenty of options.

Maybe it sounds like heresy, but some Voigtlaender lens are just sweet on M-camera (or NEX or Fuji etc.).

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instead of any Leica!

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They must have eyes on what Fuji and Sony are dangling in front of some of their traditional customer base, with better sensors classy looks and solid autofocus performance,

Im going to go with a APSC rangefinder for only silly money say $3500-4000 rather than bonkers, a sort of repackaged M9 to tempt people into Sumicron land.

Well probably what Voightlander would like anyhow

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$3-4,000?

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Why do I cynically expect this to turn out to be a Panasonic GX1 with a red dot on it and an inflated price tag. (or maybe the new GX2)

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No way.
Why would they make such camera? They dont manufacture m4/3 lenses and have no desire, they cant keep up with M demand. And if they did they would not tease us like that. ;)

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Leica selling a rebadged Panasonic?? Madness.

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Maybe the leica will be the first to use the new Color Splitter sensor.

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Vadimka well at least not fully. There is the awful 25mm Panasonic lens with a Leica name on and also the 45mm macro too.

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Taker, yes they are awful aren't they :)
But those are not manufactured by Leica and neither is Dlux or Vlux etc. they all made by Panasonic (but leica approved)
The only thing leica mnftrs are Ms, Xs and Ss and lenses for them.

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I wonder what happens when Kodak stops making sensors for them.

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Didn't know Kodak makes CMOS sensors.

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Leica uses sensors from Sony (probably) in the X2 and CMOSIS (definitely) in the new "M", so problem solved. Only the Monochrom-M, S2, and the older M models use Kodak CCD's anymore.

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Kodak doesn't make CCD sensors either, since they sold off their sensor division in 2011. It's Truesense Imaging nowadays.

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It truly doesn't matter. Leica, except for the brutal semi mid-sized SLR is not relevant any more. I think that the X2, which is terrible and over-priced, and their Leica-branded Panasonic Lumix models, which don't add anything, proved that they have lost their way. Big ho-hum.

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How many thousands of $$$$$ will this toy set one back?

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I don't care what camera Leica makes as I don't want to pay that sort of money. Nikon should make an M9 type rangefinder based on the fabulous D800 sensor.

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Forget Nikon or Canon...
Just get a Fuji and move on... this is what I did, never looking back.

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groucher:

The curved lens (micro lens) array in front of the sensors of Leica M digitals makes things a bit more difficult for another manufacturer like say Nikon, or Epson. As far as I no other manufacturer has done such a curved array, flat yes; it's something Kodak/Leica worked out for the APSC sensored Leica M8.

It's a big deal, and it would take a big investment to match.

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arhmatic:

That's fine but good Fuji X lenses can't match the colour of good Leica M lenses--sharpness yes. And Fuji X cameras remain a bit of pain to focus manually.

Those Fuji X bodies are nice and quiet though.

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Having used Leicas all my life (in the digital age made by Panasonic) all I want is a Leica that can use its lenses and be in the $800.00 range. If it isn't I'll stick with the Panasonic G line and add a red dot. VRR

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Even a 1000 / 1500 Dollars body would be reasonable but sadly Leica would never do that ...

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Panasonic only makes the D-Lux, V-Lux and C-Lux cameras. They have absolutely nothing to do with the S, M and X series cameras, which are developed and manufactured by Leica, and are made in Europe.

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I am guessing full framer with fixed 35mm for $ 4 000.00......

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There is one already -$1000 and it's made by Sony....LOL

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That's what I was thinking too... They want the Fuji X100S / Sony RX1 slice of the pie

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It won't be a fixed lens camera.

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