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Panasonic announces Lumix DMC-LF1 Wi-Fi-enabled enthusiast compact

By dpreview staff on Apr 24, 2013 at 00:00 GMT
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Panasonic has announced the Lumix DMC-LF1, the first in a new line of Raw-shooting enthusiast compacts. The LF1 marries the sensor from the LX7 to a longer, slower lens and adds an electronic viewfinder. The camera combines a 12MP 1/1.7" CMOS sensor with a 28-200mm equivalent F2.0-5.9 lens and finds room for a 202k dot-equivalent electronic viewfinder. It becomes the fifth Panasonic model to offer Wi-Fi for remote control and wireless communication that can be set up using NFC.

The LF1 will sit alongside the LX7 and offer fewer direct controls but still represent a significant step up from most conventional compacts. The LF1 includes an exposure mode dial and function ring around its lens, as well as a larger sensor than most compacts. In a sense it's a competitor to Canon's S series and the recent Nikon Coolpix P330, but with the added bonus of a longer zoom and built-in EVF. The EVF shares its specifications with the low-resolution, field-sequential LCDs used in Panasonic's lower-end bridge-style superzooms (such as the FZ60). The rear LCD is a 3.0", 920k dot panel, which is about normal for this class.

The LF1 offers the same easy-to-establish Wi-Fi connection as the G6, GF6, ZS30 and TS5, if you're pairing it with a device that supports NFC (Near Field Communication). If not, you'll have to manually enter the Wi-Fi details into your device, but you still gain the ability to remotely control the camera as well as the option to download images from it. Using Wi-Fi extensively will cut into its already modest 250 shot-per-charge battery life.

The LF1 will sell for a recommended price of $499.99/£379

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New Sleek, Stylish Advanced Compact Digital Camera with EVF

LUMIX DMC-LF1 Featuring F2.0 LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON Lens with 7.1x Optical Zoom*
*35mm camera equivalent:28-200mm

April 24, 2013: Panasonic is proud to announce a new digital compact camera LUMIX DMC-LF1 from new LF series – a sister line of the world-renowned LX series which have been long acclaimed by the photography enthusiasts for its high picture quality and creative descriptiveness. The new DMC-LF1 incorporates F2.0 LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON lens and 1/1.7-inch large High Sensitivity MOS Sensor in sleek, stylish profile with practical EVF (Electronic View Finder). The F2.0 fast LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON lens boasts excellent descriptiveness produced by its outstanding quality and performance yet achieves 7.1x high optical zoom (35mm camera equivalent: 28-200mm) making this camera even more versatile. The 1/1.7-inch large High Sensitivity MOS Sensor and the high performance Venus Engine achieves clear image recording even at high sensitivity setting taking advantage of rich amount of light.

With the Wi-Fi® connectivity with NFC (Near Field Communication) technology, the DMC-LF1 features “Touch & Share” in which users can connect the camera to their smartphone/tablet anywhere at one-touch to share a image easily right on the spot. It is also possible to use a smartphone/tablet as a multi-capable remote shutter with a monitor. With the new Instant Transfer function, photos are automatically sent to the smartphone/tablet right after shooting. On the other hand, both photo and video can be archived to the registered digital equipment such as PC automatically via the wireless access point (router) at home.

For step-up users who pursue higher expressive performance, the DMC-LF1 comes equipped with a variety of manual functionalities. Newly integrated Control Ring and Composition Guide help experience advanced photography with ease. A variety of special effects that add fun to shooting experience are also integrated in DMC-LF1–Creative Panorama, Creative Control and Creative Retouch featuring a total of max.15 attractive filter effects*.

The DMC-LF1 records 1,920 x 1,080 60i (NTSC) / 50i (PAL) full-HD video recording in AVCHD / MP4** with high quality stereo sound. The 7.1x optical zoom is also available in video recording. The POWER O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilizer) with Active Mode powerfully suppresses blur even in video recording. In addition to the 0.2-inch 200K-dotpractical EVF, the DMC-LF1 features 3-inch large 920K-dot Intelligent LCD assuring highly visibility in both shooting and image playback.
Advanced in function and more fashionable in design – the DMC-LF1 is for users who wants to get more inspired by photography in their sophisticated lifestyles.

*Some modes of Creative Control cannot be used in Creative Panorama and Creative Retouch.
** 30p (NTSC) / 25p (PAL) in MP4 recording.

- Maximum time to record motion pictures continuously with [AVCHD] is 29 minutes 59 seconds in some European / Asian areas.
- Maximum time to record motion pictures continuously with [MP4] is 29 minutes 59 seconds or up to 4 GB.
- You can check the recordable time on the screen. (For [FHD] in [MP4] format, the file size is large and so the recordable time will drop below 29 minutes 59 seconds.)

1. The F2.0 Fast LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON Lens with 7.1x Optical Zoom

The DMC-LF1 is equipped with newly developed 28mm wide angle LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON lens with 7.1x optical zoom (35mm camera equivalent: 28-200mm). This supreme lens features F2.0 high speed, which boasts approx. 2x higher speed of F2.8 lens, itself generally considered a fast lens. The extraordinarily rich amount of light allows not only using higher shutter speed to capture stunningly clear, sharp, blur-free images in lower lighting situation, but also giving impressive expression to the image by reproducing exquisite gradation and mellow defocus. The lens unit consists of 10 elements in 8 groups with 4 aspherical lenses with 7 aspherical surfaces including an ED (Extra-low Dispersion) lens that compensates for chromatic aberration at entire zoom range. Panasonic achieves integrating F2.0 fast lens in this middle-zoom compact camera by combining the company’s unique technologies – a technology for the mass production of a slim lens with a flange of just 0.3mm and a black-box technology for assembling spherical lenses and aspherical lenses.

The super-high-quality LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON lens minimizes distortion at the wide end, so users can get stunning, true-to-life images with outstanding resolution and detail. For more effective countermeasure against hand-shake which tends to occur in shooting with high zoom, POWER O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilizer) with Active Mode is equipped with DMC-LF1 to powerfully suppress blur in both photo and video recording.

2 . The 1/1.7-inch Large 12.1-megapixel High Sensitivity MOS Sensor and Venus Engine

The DMC-LF1 integrates 1/1.7-inch, 12.1-megapixel High Sensitivity MOS Sensor which is larger in size than standard digital compact cameras. Thanks to the extensive light receiving area of each cell, the performance of high sensitivity image recording in low light is obviously superior with its excellent S/N ratio and wide dynamic range. The result is a high resolution image with stunning clarity not only in high sensitivity recording but also in low ISO setting reproducing rich gradation with the exquisitely wide dynamic range even when the situation is highly contrasted.

The high performance image processor Venus Engine also boasts advanced signal processing. The Venus Engine enables deliberate noise reduction process without missing low-frequency noise by searching large detection area to realize high sensitivity image recording even at ISO12800. In addition, Edge Smoothing NR technology helps rendering smooth edges even in image recording at high ISO setting.

The high speed digital signal output technology is integrated to realize high speed consecutive shooting at 10 fps in full resolution with mechanical shutter and to record full-HD 60i (NTSC) / 50i (PAL) smooth video in AVCHD/MP4*.. It also contributes to the high speed Sonic Speed AF to catch the most fleeting shooting opportunities. In addition, the high speed burst shooting at 60 fps is available to capture subject with fast motion**.

* 30p (NTSC) / 25p (PAL) in MP4 recording.
** In max.2.5-megapixel (4:3), 3-megapixel (3:2), 3.5-megapixel (16:9) and 2-megapixel (1:1)

3. Practical EVF and Large, High Resolution LCD for Easy Viewing of Image

The DMC-LF1 is a sleek, stylish digital compact camera but it comes with 0.2-inch EVF (Electronic Viewfinder) with 200K-dot resolution, 100% field of view. It assures stable framing and high visibility of live view image even under strong sunlight.
The 3.0-inch, 920,000-dot Intelligent LCD with super high resolution and a wide viewing angle features automatic brightness adjustment in 7 steps as the surrounding brightness level changes, ensuring easy visibility at all times. The big screen with AR coating reflects fine details, making it easy to check the focus before shooting. It also serves as a small photo and video viewer, allowing the user and friends to enjoy viewing the still and motion images together.

4. Shoot, View, Share Images in More Flexible Way with Wi-Fi® Connectivity with NFC

The DMC-LF1 integrates a Wi-Fi® connectivity (IEEE 802.11 b/g/n) with NFC (Near Field Communication) technology to offer more flexible shooting experience and instant image sharing with easy operation. The NFC allows “Touch & Share” in which users can connect the camera to their smartphone/tablet anywhere at one-touch to share a image easily right on the spot by just pairing the two devices. What is new is that the setup is extremely easy and finishes within a few seconds, making it possible to pair the camera directly to the smartphone/tablet without connection procedure of information input for authorization.

With a smartphone/tablet, remote shooting of both photo and video is available by using the smartphone/tablet for a remote shutter with a monitor which displayed live at smooth 30 fps. Not only releasing a shutter, zooming, focusing and settings of shutter speed, aperture, exposure compensation are all controllable with a smartphone/tablet.

The Instant Transfer function allows the camera to transfer the photo data to the designated electronic devices automatically whenever shutter is released. In playback mode, users can also touch the image displayed on the camera to transfer it directly to the smartphone/tablet right on the spot. In addition, it is possible to tag the location information to the image by utilizing the GPS (Global Positioning System) log of a smartphone / tablet. All these flexible shooting / browsing / sharing style are made possible with the DMC-LF1 and the Panasonic's dedicated application software “Panasonic Image App” for iOS / Android smartphones/tablets.

Archiving images becomes easy. DMC-LF1 transfer the data to PC or other compliant electronic devices automatically via the wireless access point (router) at home. Also, users can save precious record of memory to the Panasonic's exclusive cloud service “LUMIX CLUB”.

The Wi-Fi Direct™ function allows direct playback of images on the DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) – compliant VIERA HDTV*.

* Using [Playback on TV] of the Wi-Fi function, you can display images on a TV that supports the Digital Media Renderer (DMR) function of the DLNA standard. Please check the following website about the compatible devices for details. http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/dsc/

5. Get More Inspired with Specialty Functions

A variety of advanced functions are equipped with DMC-LF1 to spur more interest of step-up users in photography. Manual control is easy to try thanks to the Control Ring, which enables direct, intuitive control over frequently-used settings – zooming, aperture, shutter speed, ISO sensitivity and filter of Creative Control / Creative Panorama. To assist learning photography, Composition Guide is also available in DMC-LF1. It is easy to shoot a photo in good composition by just choosing most suitable pattern of composition from- Rule of Thirds Offset, Diagonal Lines, Tunnel, Radiation1, Radiation2 and S-shape - and framing the subjects along the guided lines. Well-composed image has a stunning perspective and dramatically look refined. This function can be used in shooting not only with LCD but also with EVF. Furthermore, DMC-LF1 is equipped with Level Gauge to detect the horizontal / vertical angle of view using its internal level working with the acceleration sensor. This is helpful to keep horizontal composition precisely even when shooting in high or low angle.

6. Creative Panorama & Creative Control / Creative Retouch

The DMC-LF1 is also equipped with popular Creative Control and Creative Retouch featuring a total of 15 filter effects – Retro, Expressive, High Key, Low Key, Sepia, Dynamic Monochrome, Impressive Art, High Dynamic, Toy Effect, Miniature Effect, Star Filter, Cross Process, Soft Focus, One Point Color and Old Days. The Creative Control lets users shoot with a filter effect while checking how it makes difference on the picture, which can be used for video recording, too*. The Creative Retouch enables applying a filter effect on the picture even after shooting in camera.

With the Creative Panorama function, it is possible to apply filter effect of Retro, Expressive, High Key, Low Key, Sepia, Dynamic Monochrome, Impressive Art, High Dynamic, Star Filter, Cross Process, Soft Focus, One Point Color and Old Days to the horizontal / vertical panoramic image, which can be shot by sweeping the camera in any four directions – to right, left, top or bottom.

* Soft Focus and Star Filter cannot be used in video recording.

7. Other Attractive Featuresfor DMC-LF1

High Quality 1920 x 1080 Full-HD 60i (NTSC) / 50i (PAL) Video with Stereo Sound

The DMC-LF1 records 1920 x 1080 at 60i (NTSC) / 50i (PAL) full HD videos with full-time AF and high quality stereo sound in the AVCHD format which excels in both compression efficiency and compatibility with AV equipment for playback. With a dedicated video record button on the back, users can instantly start recording videos while shooting photos without any having to make any extra setting adjustments. Videos can also be recorded in MP4 format for playback on a PC or other portable electronic devices without having to convert the files.

* 30p (NTSC) / 25p (PAL) in MP4 recording.
- Maximum time to record motion pictures continuously with [AVCHD] is 29 minutes 59 seconds in some European / Asian areas..
- Maximum time to record motion pictures continuously with [MP4] is 29 minutes 59 seconds or up to 4 GB.
- You can check the recordable time on the screen. (For [FHD] in [MP4] format, the file size is large and so the recordable time will drop below 29 minutes 59 seconds.)

iA+ (Intelligent Auto Plus) Mode for Photo and Video

For beginners, iA (Intelligent Auto) mode supports taking beautiful pictures with a variety of shooting-assist functions including AF Tracking, Intelligent Scene Selector, Face Recognition and Intelligent ISO Control. The iA Plus mode lets users adjust defocusing area in the background, exposure compensation and white balance for more flexible control.

AC / USB Power Charging

The camera’s battery can be recharged either via AC or via USB according to the users’ convenience.

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LF1 specifications

Price
MSRP$499.99 / £379
Body type
Body typeCompact
Sensor
Max resolution4000 x 3000
Image ratio w:h1:1, 4:3, 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels12 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors13 megapixels
Sensor size1/1.7" (7.44 x 5.58 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
Image
ISOAuto, 80, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, (12800 with boost)
White balance presets4
Custom white balanceYes
Image stabilizationOptical
Image stabilization notesPower O.I.S.
Uncompressed formatRAW
File format
  • JPEG (DCF/Exif2.3)
  • RAW
  • MPO
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)28–200 mm
Optical zoom7.1×
Maximum apertureF2.0 - F5.9
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
  • Live View
Autofocus assist lampYes
Digital zoomYes (Max 4x)
Manual focusYes
Normal focus range50 cm (19.69)
Macro focus range3 cm (1.18)
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots920,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeTFT Color LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeElectronic
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed60 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/4000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Program
  • Aperture Priority
  • Shutter Priority
  • Manual
Scene modes
  • Portrait
  • Soft Skin
  • Scenery
  • Panorama shot
  • Sports
  • Night Portrait
  • Night Scenery
  • Handheld Night Shot
  • HDR
  • Food
  • Baby1
  • Baby2
  • Pet
  • Sunset
  • Glass Through
  • 3D Photo
Built-in flashYes
Flash range7.00 m
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Red-Eye, Slow Sync
Continuous drive10 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
AE Bracketing±1 (3 frames at 1/3 EV, 1 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (60, 50, 30, 25 fps), 1280 x 720p (60, 50, 30, 25 fps), 640 x 480 (30, 25 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, AVCHD
Videography notes1920 x 1080 (60i FHD: 17Mbps, Sensor Output is 60fps; 30fps FHD: 20Mbps / MP4, Sensor Output is 30fps)
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC, Internal
Storage included87 MB Internal
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (mini HDMI)
WirelessBuilt-In
Wireless notesWith NFC capabilities
Remote controlNo
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery Life (CIPA)250
Weight (inc. batteries)192 g (0.42 lb / 6.77 oz)
Dimensions103 x 62 x 28 mm (4.06 x 2.44 x 1.1)
Other features
Timelapse recordingNo
GPSNone

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Total comments: 202
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TheLazyC
By TheLazyC (7 months ago)

Just received my DMC-LF1 and somewhat disappointed. Takes nice photos as expected, but with a fully charged battery, only got 72 shots before camera became unusable due to dead battery, second issue is the lack of an off camera battery charger. I purchased a second battery to keep one on charge or carry spare and there is no way to charge the batteries unless install in camera and plugged connected to the USB cable and AC adapter.

WiFi not bad as I was able to easily view photos remotely on my iPad and save them to the iPad, also downloaded iPhone app and controlled camera remotely with the ability to view via iPhone just as you would be looking at LCD, zoom, etc functions available.

Size is good, controls are good, but I would really consider battery life before purchasing as with my last Panasonic Lumix it seemed like I never charged the battery and never considered a second battery for long weekend trips.

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berni29
By berni29 (7 months ago)

Hi

I have also just tried one. If it had the same video modes as the LX7 I would have bought it.

The ability to control it from a smartphone is super cool though. Truly useful and works like magic!

Berni

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (9 months ago)

I have just seen this camera in shop and was pretty amazed: its dimensions are diminutive AND it has an EVF. Whatever IQ, the camera is definitely a milestone.

1 upvote
tmgp
By tmgp (10 months ago)

The first review (that i've found...) while we don't have one from dpreview: http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_dmc_lf1_review/

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tron555
By tron555 (10 months ago)

I think DPR should do a Review on this camera as soon as it is released! It seems like it could be an alternative to the G15 and Nikon P7700 IQ is as good or better than either of them. I did not get the G15 because the IQ was just not as sharp as I expected/wanted and only 5X zoom or P7700 because of size and slow response times. The LF1 seems like it could possible overcome both of those issues. It is also smaller/lighter and could be a real contender if the IQ/sensor/lens combo delivers as it just might do. If the noise level is very low from 28-100mm in good light with very sharp detailed images, I would be interested in giving it a try. I can't wait to see it's images in the comparison tool against other small pocket-able P&S cameras.

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Clint009
By Clint009 (10 months ago)

I also like the ISO start at 80.

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Clint009
By Clint009 (11 months ago)

BH is saying LF1 "Expected availability: June 28 2013"

N.B. In Canada LF1 will be cheaper then $499. (Montreal & Toronto)

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servic
By servic (11 months ago)

I do not like this camera as it looks like putting an elephant on mouse legs. The camera is neither really a wide angle nor has a sensible tele (like most of others). You can't do any reasonable portraits with it and wide angle is too long for the skies. I wonder if there were a market for two cameras LX7 + a compact camera with say some 60-300 with f2.0. And say selling two such cameras in a combo at reduced price?

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (11 months ago)

This thing has an EVF... that is surprising.
Smart move. LCD not an issue in sunlight with this.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (11 months ago)

They couldn't have made it any uglier though!
Way to go Panasonic! Why did you fire your designers???
This looks indistinguishable from the very poor Canon s110.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (11 months ago)

We hope that you add this to the enthusiast roundup very soon!

1 upvote
bb42
By bb42 (11 months ago)

Another camera that needs a strip of self-adhesive rubber as a handgrip to be usable...

4 upvotes
kle1
By kle1 (Apr 29, 2013)

They said, it has the same sensor like the LX7 but the video functions are different. I really wanted a LX7 with a longer zoom but the LF1 doesn't have the cool video functions like 120frames at 720p :-(

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jpsa
By jpsa (Apr 27, 2013)

Finally! A genuinely pocket sized camera with a viewfinder and a halfway-reasonable sized sensor. The lens is also decently fast at the wide-angle end, which is where most of my low-light pictures are taken. Definitely interested and eagerly awaiting reviews and/or the chance to look at one.

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vroger1
By vroger1 (Apr 26, 2013)

PS, the fact that this little digicam has an LVF, may mean we are coming back to the day when a photographer no longer has to "chimp" when taking an image.

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vroger1
By vroger1 (Apr 26, 2013)

I am not in the market for it- (Have the LX7)- but- if the lens is as good as the Leica branded Lumix lenses I own- it could be spectacular. These lenses are absolutely peerless whenit comes to sharpness and over-all quality. The FZ200 is so good it defies superlatives. VRR

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D R C
By D R C (Apr 26, 2013)

If the EVF is worth looking through I'll buy one !!!!!
But that's a big if.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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Timmbits
By Timmbits (11 months ago)

the viewfinders on this class of camera are usually intended as a backup for bright sunlight when the LCD isn't viewable.

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Clint009
By Clint009 (11 months ago)

A good article to read (A small mention about LF1) "My Camera Must have an Electronic Viewfinder" "http://cameraergonomics.blogspot.ca/2013/05/my-camera-must-have-electronic.htm

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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Donald B
By Donald B (Apr 26, 2013)

what a pain in the a.....s i had decided on the x20 and now have to wait and look at the lf1. it looks like a great "little" beast. i have a xz1 with vf2 but it does not fit in a pocket. thanks panasonic been waiting a long time.

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OM mani padme hum
By OM mani padme hum (10 months ago)

^ It depends on what you mean by "a pocket." If you mean it won't fit in *all* pockets I agree, however, if one chooses clothes with reasonable size pockets it can be done quite easily. Having said that I will be looking at the LF1 with great interest. Pity about f5.9 at the long end though [sigh] as that half-cripples the camera for my use - lots of low light indoors. I'd be happy to trade some bulk for f2.8 or f4 at the long end.

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SkiHound
By SkiHound (Apr 25, 2013)

I find the sweeping pre-release evaluations of cameras very interesting. Panasonic has chosen to mate a relatively small sensor with a comparatively long but slow aperture lens in a small format camera. A bigger sensor means a bigger lens (assuming the same equivalent focal length and aperture). A faster lens means also means a larger lens. Even the lens in the LX7 seems considerably larger, by comparison. A 1" sensor with a long throw fast aperture telephoto ain't' going to fit in your pocket. And add a high resolution evf? Camera design requires compromises. There are many cameras with compromises I can't live. But that doesn't make them awful, or horrible, or ... Indeed, they may be great tools for someone else. I shoot m43 and have an LX5 for my pocket camera. The LX5 is really a bit too big for much of what I want a compact camera. I'll wait till we see some reviews but this looks like it might be a very good tool for what I need.

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Sergey Borachev
By Sergey Borachev (Apr 25, 2013)

Brilliant!

A really small camera with an EVF and a long zoom. People complaining about the 200k EVF or the slow speed at the 200mm end are not being realistic with what can be done in a small camera. Even the smaller battery capacity is fine for what this camera is intended, not a whole day of shooting.

Be thankful that it is only 12MP and not 16, 18 or 20MP, and there is a Leica lens, and has Panasonic OIS, and some bonuses in the connectivity features.

IMO, if everything works well, this is going to be the new standard to beat for a carry anywhere pocket camera.

Comment edited 11 minutes after posting
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Timmbits
By Timmbits (11 months ago)

We have to consider what the paerture may be at half zoom, which is where most others in this category stop. it might just be very reasonable...

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Biro
By Biro (11 months ago)

I've been saying this on another site. If the LF1's lens is at something akin to f/2.8 at 90mm, that would be just fine - even if things got dim fairly quickly after that. Most people wouldn't go beyond 90mm unless they're outdors anyway.

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 25, 2013)

To see some images of the camera, including the back and a very nice looking white model see here:

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/panasonic-lumix-lf1-hands-on-preview-21788

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (11 months ago)

too much white. some black like on the white Oly X-Z1 would be nicer. adding a black handle would definitely do the trick.

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Catalin Stavaru
By Catalin Stavaru (Apr 25, 2013)

This is actually Panasonic's answer to the RX100. LX7 was clearly a flop (bigger camera, smaller sensor) not because it was a bad camera but because the RX100 exists. So they thought "our technology and the m43 format which would be hurt in sales does not allow us to make a 1" compact camera, so let's stick some features into a small camera, that the RX100 is missing". The LF1 was then born, which is even smaller than the RX100 (thinner) but has significantly longer zoom (while keeping a respectable F2.0 initial aperture) and a viewfinder.

I for one would never trade image quality for a viewfinder or a longer zoom, so I'll stick to my RX100. But the LF1 would probably sell much better than the LX7.

I woud advise Panasonic to quit making larger cameras in order to fool the user that larger is better (like the LX7, GH3, etc.). Camera business is one area in which size does matter, but smaller is better :)

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 25, 2013)

Smaller is only better for transport, not for shooting. And the RX100 has better IQ than the LX7, but it's not nearly as nice to shoot with. No grip, no VF, small and slippery as apposed to the LX7 that feels sure and solid in your hand. It also has f1.4-f2.3 max apertures unlike the RX100 which get extremely dark at the telephoto end with f4.9.

As far as being a flop, the LX7 has 172 reviews for 4 1/2 star average at Amazon, and close to the same on B&H. And the LX7 is #27 in P&S on Amazon and the RX100 is #19. So they sell about the same. Some flop.

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mosc
By mosc (Apr 25, 2013)

f4.9 is not dark. Quit saying that. Do people call f5.6 FF "dark"? No. They consider sensor size.

and I'm sorry bout f2.3 1/1.7" and f4.9 1" are very very similar. Their wide angle, which is far more useful, is not that comparable.

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 25, 2013)

@mosc wrote "I'm sorry bout f2.3 1/1.7" and f4.9 1" are very very similar".

Except for the fact that f2.3 max aperture lens takes in over twice as much light than the f4.9 lens.

And yes, people call f5.6 on "dark" or "slow" on FF because it lets in 4 stops less light than a bright or fast f1.4 lens.

When you zoom out to 100mm in your RX100 your shutter speed get's slower because the aperture closes down to f4.9 and therefore take in less light. Sensor size has nothing to do with it.

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Catalin Stavaru
By Catalin Stavaru (Apr 25, 2013)

@marike6: You missed the fact that the LX7 costs half of the RX100. And it's still outsold...what more can be said.

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mosc
By mosc (Apr 29, 2013)

marike6, sensor size has everything to do with it because all these cameras have dynamically set ISO speeds. You hold exposure the same by changing the ISO. The larger sensor can be more sensitive thus making up for the dimmer light. Comparing aperture alone across different formats makes no sense as it does NOT set exposure! Exposure is aperture+shutter+ISO. You can compensate aperture with ISO while still holding the same shutter.

A photon is a photon. If you have 2x as many buckets but they come at you 1/2 as often, that's effectively the same number of photons.

The RX100 is just as "fast" at 100mm as any compact on the market because it has more sensor size allowing for higher ISO at the same quality and shutter (read: exposure time).

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (11 months ago)

I fully agree. If you're going to make something as bloated as a GH3, don't play business allegiances policy and leave it with a medium sized sensor - at least put a larger sensor into it, especially if you're going to charge premium gh3 prices!!

I thought this LF1 was interesting, until you reminded me that the LX7 is an f1.4 and this starts at f2.0 - coupled with a 1/1.7" sensor, it's stepping back a few years (ref: Oly X-Z1 @f1.8).

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The A-Team
By The A-Team (Apr 25, 2013)

Everybody who complains about viewfinders on compacts just wet their pants.

2 upvotes
Clint009
By Clint009 (11 months ago)

An interesting opinion: "My Camera Must have an Electronic Viewfinder" (DMC LF1 is mention)http://cameraergonomics.blogspot.ca/2013/05/my-camera-must-have-electronic.html

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Apr 25, 2013)

A lot more on panasonic's site including pictures of the back of the camera etc. Still haven't formed a solid opinion of it yet (if you read my last comment here), but I'm getting closer now. The finishing touch on my opinion will require hands on experience with it.

http://www.panasonic.net/avc/lumix/compact/lf1/

Basically my viewpoint is that this is Panasonic's Canon S100/110 with a viewfinder. And I like the Canon S100 A LOT.

C

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Clint009
By Clint009 (11 months ago)

An interesting opinion: "My Camera Must have an Electronic Viewfinder" (DMC LF1 is mention)http://cameraergonomics.blogspot.ca/2013/05/my-camera-must-have-electronic.html

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Apr 25, 2013)

Oh yeah and to further step things up (hey, why not put all of my crazy requests on the table here at once, in one fell swoop!)...
let's start making weather-sealed serious compacts too. I KNOW there is a demand for it .. they would be pricey though, especially the pioneering models, but over time would come down to Earth and reach more mass appeal I am thinking. But, all in all this is a fantastic development. I can't wait to see MORE built-in EVF's on serious compacts.

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Apr 25, 2013)

Wow.. just saw this! This is what I have been hoping for, for so long.. A resurgence of the popularity of viewfinders. Rock on, Panasonic!

I hope they have a winner on their hands.. perhaps I will buy a future cousin of this series with a 21mm wide angle zoom lens :)

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

I just see the flash position.
is the flash position correct ?
I afraid many times finger will be blocking the flash.
especially when we ask someone else to take the picture for us.

what is your opinion ?

0 upvotes
yslee1
By yslee1 (Apr 25, 2013)

Can we get rid of the stupid notion that taking a few steps back or forward is as good as zooming? It's not.

I suppose I should say something about this camera - EVF, even a low res one, is nice to have. More please!

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

On some part of LF1 is good, but
1. F5.9 is not good enough, LX7 Lens is the best. If Panasonic can give this cameras better than F4 is good.
2. Price $ 500 is too high for this camera. $ 350-400 is good price
3.Low light. I really hope panasonic put the money on improving the sensor to make it work better on low light. On low light panasonic sensor performance below competitor.
Panasonic always need better lens to help this.

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

For LF1 Panasonic need to improve the Venus engine to make it better work on light, but still keep the details.
Without this, LF1 will not be success.

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Eddaweaver
By Eddaweaver (Apr 25, 2013)

"F5.9 is not good enough, LX7 Lens is the best"
It's a 7.1x zoom. They could only make the aperture larger at the long end of the zoom by either making the zoom shorter or the camera larger. The LX7's zoom is much shorter.

"Price $ 500 is too high for this camera."
Perhaps, but if it doesn't sell at that price point then Panasonic would lower it.

Putting an electronic viewfinder on a compact is a great idea.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Apr 24, 2013)

A lot will depend on how good the evf is. Probably the same as in the FZ20. If it was as good as the OMD E5 evf then I would be interested. I think they may be on to a winner.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Apr 25, 2013)

I meant FZ200. But it seems to be a much lower resolution item. This means it is not meant to used exclusively but for "emergencies".

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Biro
By Biro (11 months ago)

Yes, the EVF has only something like 202,000 dots. But it's not meant for things like manual focus. It's meant for framing shots. And, arguably, it may be more useful than the tunnel-like OVFs in the much-larger and heavier Canon G15 and Nikon P7100. The P7700 has no viewfinder at all.

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lbpix
By lbpix (Apr 24, 2013)

Finally, a compact with a built in EVF. That is a first surely? OK it would have been nice if it was high resolution but hey it's progress, and how big would it have to be?
There are plenty of options for those who're happy with an LCD screen for composition, not many options for those who aren't. Well done Panasonic, I'm keen to try one. Might even replace my Fuji X10 which is just a bit too big.

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Revenant
By Revenant (Apr 25, 2013)

The Nikon P60 had an EVF, as did the Panasonic LC1 and Leica Digilux 2. The latter two were quite large cameras, though.

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lbpix
By lbpix (Apr 28, 2013)

Reverant - thank you for correcting me, I didn't know they existed! There aren't any other current ones though. I'd like to see this as a start to more of this kind, Hey Canon what about a G16 with a higher resolution EVF?

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dale thorn
By dale thorn (Apr 24, 2013)

Did everyone miss the huge differences? This is MUCH smaller and lighter than the LX7. And has a viewfinder.

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=panasonic_dmclx7&products=panasonic_dmclf1

298 g vs 192 g
111 x 68 x 46 mm (4.37 x 2.68 x 1.81″) vs 103 x 62 x 28 mm (4.06 x 2.44 x 1.1″)

But
Less battery life, Less Exposure compensation
Less Flash range, Less Exposure modes
Slower Lens, White balance presets 4 vs 5
Unknown Number of focus points

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theblock
By theblock (Apr 25, 2013)

Less Exposure Modes - not true, there is PASM + C1 and C2
WB presets number - doesn't matter, there is custom preset
AF module is the same 23point
Besides none of this featueres are related to body size. It's different type of camera than LX7, no better and no worse.

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Philly
By Philly (Apr 24, 2013)

Any info on the diopter adjustment range? I'm wondering if the LF's EVF diopter also goes down to -4, as it does on my G3.

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Tjalpics
By Tjalpics (Apr 24, 2013)

Can someone please explain why the copy says "...Panasonic model to offer Wi-Fi for remote control..." and the Specifications (Connectivity) say "Remote control: No" ?

So can it be used for an external/separate flash?

(And can Panasonic please explain why there's no grip?)

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dickg1
By dickg1 (Apr 24, 2013)

If Panasonic thinks this camera is going to seriously compete with the Canon S110 in attracting the "enthusiast" crowd, they screwed up big time!

In my mind, the feature that sets the Canon S110 apart from the majority of its peers is a 24mm wide end.

I recently sold my S95 and bought the S110 for just that reason. I'd much rather give up a 200mm long end to get a 24mm wide angle. The difference between 24mm & 28mm is much greater than the diffeence between 120mm and 200mm.

dickg1

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 24, 2013)

@dickg1 wrote: "The difference between 24mm & 28mm is much greater than the diffeence between 120mm and 200mm."

4mm is greater than 80mm? No it's not. Need a slightly wider FOV, you can always stitch two images together or back up a bit. Need to get 80mm closer, except for cropping and thereby compromising IQ, there is nothing you get do.

So this camera has a lens with the same f2.0-f5.9 max apertures as the S110, but is 28-200 like the Coolpix P7700, has an EVF, a 920 K LCD, way more video frame rates, and is the same size as the S110. If that's screwing up, I'd like to see other camera makers "screw up" like this.

Maybe Nikon also "screwed-up" by making the P330 with a 24-120 f1.8-4.9 lens. Competition is good for everybody.

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techmine
By techmine (Apr 24, 2013)

$500 vs $335 for S110 that has a touch screen. No EVF but lets see how tiny(big) it would be on the Panny. Am I the only one looking for more pictures in this press release?

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 24, 2013)

@techmine wrote:

"$500 vs $335 for S110 that has a touch screen"

$335 is the new discounted price. Just like the S100, LX7, XZ-1, et al, the S110 has been heavily discounted to get rid of old stock for an S120.

A 460 K touch screen is still only 460 K.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Apr 24, 2013)

You pays your money and makes your choices.

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MariusM
By MariusM (Apr 24, 2013)

To each their own. I'll take more tele-reach over wide any day.

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

I hope next time more cameras will have 24mm or maybe 20mm

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bb42
By bb42 (Apr 25, 2013)

marike "4mm is greater than 80mm? No it's not. Need a slightly wider FOV, you can always stitch two images together"
Not seriously, but you can always crop a 120 mm picture and get the 200 mm perspective, accepting the loss of resolution - you can't do that with a 28 vs 24 mm.
But otherwise I agree that - from my usage - 200 vs 120 is more often preferable than 24 vs 28.

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zxaar
By zxaar (Apr 25, 2013)

personally for me, the difference of 24mm to 28mm is huge one. I won't buy any compact that does not provide 24mm or wider. If it does not have 24 mm then no matter how long it has on tele-end it is useless for me. That 80mm difference can not make 28mm lens act as an 24mm lens , no matter what you do.

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RedDog Steve
By RedDog Steve (Apr 24, 2013)

I like what I see here but it is ruled out for me by the very disappointing battery life.
C'mon designers, there's a group of compact camera enthusiasts out here that are not quite as swayed by the flashy "we do it because we can" power hogging features.
Give me a camera that can last all afternoon without fumbling for a spare cell pack.

"... still looking for the ideal compact"

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joe1512
By joe1512 (Apr 24, 2013)

Maybe you can turn off the LED screen and just use the electronic viewfinder for composition. That would save a lot of battery life.

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MrTritium
By MrTritium (Apr 24, 2013)

It has the same sensor than the LX7, but uses it differently. The resolutions are:
___|_____4:3_____|_____3:2_____|___16:9_____
LF1 | 4,000 x 3,000 | 4,000 x 2,672 | 4,000 x 2,248
LX7 | 3,648 x 2,736 | 3,776 x 2,520 | 3,968 x 2,232

- The LX7 only uses the center part of the sensor and always keeps the same diagonal when you change the aspect ratio from 4:3 to 3:2 or 16:9.

- The LF1 uses almost the whole sensor when set to 4:3, and removes upper and lower bands when you set it to 3:2 or 16:9.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Apr 24, 2013)

Yes - the LX7 uses its sensor to offer a multi-aspect mode (with the same diagonal, regardless of which aspect ratio you use). This is why we show the LX7 as effectively having a 1/1.8" sensor in comparison diagrams.

The LF1 is using the whole sensor but not offering the LX's multi-aspect feature.

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FocusBogus
By FocusBogus (Apr 24, 2013)

At last we get a pocket camera with integrated EVF, Bravo Panasonic! Was it hard task? ...lol.

Sometimes it feels that camera industry is listening too much camera freaks and average customers, but it ignores practical and rational requests.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (Apr 24, 2013)

Why would anyone buy this for $500 when the LX7 was $280 last week. I can walk forward the extra few steps to save $220.

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NIK11
By NIK11 (Apr 24, 2013)

But can you frame properly in harsh sunlight using the LCD and can you get it into a small pocket?

This is not aimed at the LX7 buyer, but S110 etc with more zoom and better framing in harsh light.
Why not celebrate that we have more choice?

Nick

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Apr 24, 2013)

mpgxsvcd:

Irony a new LX5 is still $400.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Apr 24, 2013)

HowaboutRAW - looking at long-since replaced models makes as little sense as comparing the price of an aging model with the list price of a yet-to-become-available one.

The LX7's list price was $449, the LF1's list price is $500. Wait for a while and the price will drop.

Interestingly, Panasonic originally suggested this would be cheaper than the LX7 (in terms of list price, anyway). And in the UK, it is (£379 vs £450)

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Apr 24, 2013)

LX5 is $400 because only the small rip-off sellers still have them. I bought one for $240 from Amazon when they were closing them out.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Apr 24, 2013)

B Butler+tkbslc--

Makes plenty of sense, and tells me something is wanting in the LX7. Not sure what though.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Apr 24, 2013)

Can you walk on water or in air or over people? Sometime a zoom is the only solution.

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 24, 2013)

@ HowaboutRAW

All camera prices fluctuate depending on the value of yen vs dollar or euro.

But there is very little "wanting" in the LX7 which is one of the better enthusiast compact - solid IQ, build quality, excellent video, f1.4 lens, multi-aspect sensor, manual aperture ring.

@mpgxsvcd

The LX7 is not as pocketable and for some size is a priority.

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

I agree LF1 Price is too expensive.
You have choice to buy LX7 or wait for the LF1 available on market.

Or maybe also wait for LX9.
Send panasonic for LX9 Wish list, I hope they hear our suggestion, if many of us sending the suggestion

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Apr 25, 2013)

marike6:

These LX5s for sale were already in the US and the Yen has not gained 70 percent against the US dollar in the last few months. For some reason the LX5 has become very sought after. (I don't pretend to know why people find the LX7 wanting, but that seems to be the case.)

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SHood
By SHood (Apr 24, 2013)

"the first in a new line of Raw-shooting enthusiast compacts"

So what else is coming?

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Apr 24, 2013)

An LF2, one day, presumably.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Apr 24, 2013)

"It becomes the fifth Panasonic model to offer Wi-Fi for remote control and wireless communication that can be set up using NFC."

Wait, GF5, G6, LF1... that is 3rd... what did I miss?

Oh, sorry, "ZS30 and TS5". They have NFC too?

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Apr 24, 2013)

Yup.

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AllOtherNamesTaken
By AllOtherNamesTaken (Apr 24, 2013)

$500 for 1/1.7"...nooo thank you.

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Chatokun
By Chatokun (Apr 24, 2013)

That's pretty much what all of them went for going out the gate. It'll likely drop some, but current 1/1.7" prices:
G15: 499, with 429 as a special price.
P7700: 448, with 389 as a special price.
LX7: Fluctuates, as much as 448 and low as 300, currently 348
XZ2: 599(yikes)
EX2F: 339(cheapest of the list, at least consistently)

Personally, I got my LX7 at 300, and I agree with you slightly... I'm not sure I want to pay $500. However, it is pretty much the norm. The Fuji and RX100 are comparatively cheap when accounting for sensor size.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (Apr 24, 2013)

The LX7 was $280 just a few days ago. I don't see how Panasonic or the stores stay in business selling it for that low a price.

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MrTritium
By MrTritium (Apr 24, 2013)

We now have 5 slim&light expert compact cameras. The Pana LF1, Sony RX100, Nikon P330, Canon S110 & Fuji XF1.

Size-wise they are very close to each other, and they all weight 190~250g :
http://camerasize.com/compact/#456,332,446,384,379,ha,f
http://camerasize.com/compact/#456,332,446,379,ha,t

Sensor sizes are RX100 > XF1 > LF1=S110=P330 .

They also all have one drawback : The max aperture drops quickly as you zoom. This is especially true for the XF1: F3.4@35mm et F4.2@50mm. Let's hope the LF1 will do better.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Apr 24, 2013)

Forgot about XZ-10!

It retails its fast aperture, but has to drop to a smaller sensor than the rest to keep the lens size down.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Apr 25, 2013)

The max aperture at full zoom is why I really like my LX7. It beats both this camera and the S110 in that regard.

I highly value the constant aperture zooms I have for my SLR and the LX7 was the best I could do in that area for a pocket camera under $500.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Apr 24, 2013)

I think people are making the wrong comparisons here. This is not a competitor to the G15, LX7, XZ-2, etc. This is a competitor to the S110. Basically it goes like, "Do you like the S110 but wish it had nearly double the zoom and a viewfinder?" or maybe even "Like the RX100, but willing to trade some high ISO performance for a bit more zoom and a viewfinder in a slimmer body?"

I get the feeling everyone thinks there should be one camera template that all companies follow. I'm glad we have options.

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MrTritium
By MrTritium (Apr 24, 2013)

Not only the S110 & RX100, but also the P330 and XF1!

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Apr 24, 2013)

Yes, there are a few options, I just mentioned the two most popular for brevity.

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

Lets wait what Panasonic will offer on LX9
Can we discuss about LX9 on the forum ? :)

1 upvote
Simon97
By Simon97 (Apr 24, 2013)

Interesting camera if the lens can deliver a good image.

1 upvote
utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

Better sensor is more important on the panasonic cameras. this is the weakest part on panasonic cameras.
Leica Lens always good

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NIK11
By NIK11 (Apr 24, 2013)

Bravo Pana for innovating and moving the envelope with a built-in EVF on the smallest camera yet. Let's hope this is not a one-off (like Nikon P60) and will become the norm for the enthusiast market.

I now feel pocketable compacts have 'arrived' where small film cameras stopped - handling wise. I imagine the micro 4/3rds crowd will be wondering why they have been left out of the (built-in) EVF party.

Nick

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Chatokun
By Chatokun (Apr 24, 2013)

Hmm? We have plenty of built in EVFs... just not at this size. However, the EVF on this one is only 200k. Still nice, but it probably wouldn't satisfy m43 users. As a m43 and LX7 user, the camera has some interest for it's size, but I'd have to see its performance in a number of tests before I'm really tempted.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Apr 24, 2013)

There are plenty of EVFs, sure, but not in a pocketable compact. I think the only other pocket camera with a viewfinder is the Canon A1400, and it's far, far from an enthusiast model.

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l_objectif
By l_objectif (Apr 24, 2013)

It could be very interesting for those who need a second and portable pocket camera! But for me, it all depends on the IQ with this small sensor and 12 mp! I like to see the noise level! If images are as good as Canon S series; then I may consider!

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GodSpeaks
By GodSpeaks (Apr 24, 2013)

The EVF is a disappointment at only 200K.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Apr 24, 2013)

You still can frame with it when the rear screen produces glare in sunlight. Better than nothing, or a tunnel fixed FL OVF. It is not like you are going to watch HD movies on it.

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monkeybrain
By monkeybrain (Apr 24, 2013)

I don't see an issue with that, it's just for framing. Can it display a histogram? That's a more important question I feel.

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Donald B
By Donald B (Apr 26, 2013)

the fz150 has the same evf, it shows a histagram and can easily show dof for manual focus. the lf1 should be great.

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rb59020
By rb59020 (Apr 24, 2013)

No f1.4 lens, no 4k video? No way!

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 24, 2013)

AFAIK, there is no camera at this price existence that records 4K unless you consider the GoPro Hero 3 that shoot at 12 fps. The least expensive proper 4K camera period in the BMCC at $3000 body only but playing 4K videos without spending thousands on a 4K Monitor and a fast computer to edit the files on is not possible.

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GodSpeaks
By GodSpeaks (Apr 24, 2013)

Wow, you want an f1.4 28-200mm eq zoom lens, AND 4K video.

Dream on. Dream on.

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Cane
By Cane (Apr 24, 2013)

Marik, you need to Google sarcasm.

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marike6
By marike6 (Apr 24, 2013)

@Cane

People make all kinds of feature requests on these forums. The LX7 has an f1.4 lens and the $300 GoPro Hero 3 has 4K video, so if that's sarcasm he badly missed the mark. So thanks for the tip but I think I'll Google "camera forum smart-a$$".

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Almeida
By Almeida (Apr 24, 2013)

* zing *

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utomo99
By utomo99 (Apr 25, 2013)

wait for 1-2 days from now and check back later.
Now it still very expensive

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Apr 27, 2013)

"wait for 1-2 days from now and check back later.
Now it still very expensive"

You mean 4K recording? You may have meant years. In, say, two years from now there surely will be 4Kp30-capable consumer-priced (not 4000+ US$ ones) cameras. But definitely not now and no one should expect any "cheap" 4K camera in the near future.

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R Thornton
By R Thornton (Apr 24, 2013)

Funny how this reminds me of Olympus Mju film cameras that I still own and happily shoot every now and then. Sure, compromise upon compromise - but in a good way! If only Panasonic has bothered to impart it swift perfomance like it once did with surprisingly fast AF on FX10, it will be a joy to use and a winner for sure.

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Rambazamba
By Rambazamba (Apr 24, 2013)

Disappointing ! No AEB bracketing that is good enough for HDR ...
My LX5 can do -+3 EV

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theblock
By theblock (Apr 25, 2013)

2EV step is enough for stitching HDR.

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iudex
By iudex (Apr 24, 2013)

Look at the picture: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-lf1/popup.htm?http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-lf1/ZYTOP-LG.JPG it´s great to know that the EVF adds almost nothing to thickness of the camera.

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