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Nikon and Microsoft sign patent deal over Android-based camera

Feb 22, 2013 at 18:16:29 GMT
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Nikon has signed a licensing deal with Microsoft to cover the use of patented technologies in its Android-based cameras. The deal is the latest instance of Microsoft pursuing makers of Android devices, claiming patent infringement. Despite free access being one of the founding ideas of Google's Android operating system, Microsoft has been increasingly successful in convincing manufacturers of Android devices that they need to strike licensing deals for some of its technologies.

Embarrassingly, these companies include Motorola - now owned by Google - which signed a licensing deal when it appeared a court was going to rule in Microsoft's favor.


Press Release

Microsoft and Nikon Sign Android Patent Agreement

Agreement covers certain Nikon cameras running the Android platform.

REDMOND, Wash. — Feb. 21, 2013 — Microsoft Corp. and Nikon Corporation have signed a patent licensing agreement that provides broad coverage under Microsoft’s patent portfolio for certain Nikon cameras running the Android platform. While the contents of the agreement will not be disclosed, Microsoft will receive royalties from Nikon.

“Microsoft and Nikon have a long history of collaboration, and this agreement further demonstrates the value that both companies place on responsible IP licensing,” said David Kaefer, general manager of Intellectual Property (IP) Licensing at Microsoft. “Microsoft is proud to align with a leader in the digital camera industry to license Android technology for the benefit of Nikon’s customers.”

Microsoft’s Commitment to Licensing Intellectual Property
The patent agreement is another example of the important role intellectual property (IP) plays in ensuring a healthy and vibrant IT ecosystem. Since Microsoft launched its IP licensing program in December 2003, the company has entered into more than 1,100 licensing agreements and continues to develop programs that make it possible for customers, partners and competitors to access its IP portfolio. The program was developed to open access to Microsoft’s significant R&D investments and its growing, broad patent and IP portfolio. Microsoft’s specific patent licensing program for Android device makers has resulted in signed license agreements with numerous companies including Samsung, LG, HTC, Acer and Barnes & Noble.

More information about Microsoft’s licensing programs is available at http://www.microsoft.com/iplicensing.

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Total comments: 55
AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (4 months ago)

At least MS let others use their patents. Some companies enforce patent to shut down others business.

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Sergey Borachev
By Sergey Borachev (4 months ago)

This is worrying. Now it is Microsoft. And I am sure there will be more companies who would try to make profit just by buying licenses and twisting legislation of the spirit of what is intended by such legislation. I don't think this is in the consumers interest, if people can abuse patent laws to an unreasonable degree, and damage free competition, innovation, progress and proper access to technology, not to mention the silly costs of products due to the huge waste. in legal wranglings that enrich only devious operators and parasites like lawyers. Just like Apple's legal action against Samsung and Rambus' against other RAM makers, these are leading us to some dangerous territory.

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Adza
By Adza (4 months ago)

This actually sounds more like 'Protection Money' roart that the Mafia use, only a more 'legal' threat that if they find something they can sue for they will, regardless of how minor it is - and I'm sure they would go digging if Nikon refused.

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toni2
By toni2 (4 months ago)

Microsoft and other companies are using patents because they have nothing to do in actual market, so they need the money of others to survive. It's an unfair play.

4 upvotes
tkbslc
By tkbslc (4 months ago)

More like they want to keep getting paid for the work they have done. You would too.

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wy2lam
By wy2lam (4 months ago)

Unless Microsoft specifies which exact patents they believe are being violated, it's protection money plain and simple.

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spodzone
By spodzone (4 months ago)

Sheesh. A couple of days ago I thought the D7100 looked the most boring of incremental updates ever (apart from the sensor, it's lacking updates I want and the new AF-system doesn't affect me). Now this.

I've had two Nikon dSLRs in my time; it seems they're doing their best to ensure there won't be a third.

1 upvote
psn
By psn (4 months ago)

Until someone makes a stand against Microsoft, this will keep going on and Microsoft will keep hanging around like a Klingon in Uranus. The technology world needs some serious cleansing... an enema, perhaps, followed by a bleach wipe.

8 upvotes
ScottRH
By ScottRH (4 months ago)

I dont like Microsoft.

8 upvotes
stevens37y
By stevens37y (4 months ago)

I've never bought anything from ms from apple from nikon. Will go on.

0 upvotes
Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (4 months ago)

Im sure you have, just didnt realize it.

1 upvote
yomasa
By yomasa (4 months ago)

Microsoft's days are numbered

4 upvotes
Aleo Veuliah
By Aleo Veuliah (4 months ago)

True, and numbered forever.

(If Microsoft gives the Windows for free people will not complain, I am saying this but I use both Windows and Linux.)

1 upvote
tompabes2
By tompabes2 (4 months ago)

The problem is that numbers are infinite....

1 upvote
WilliamJ
By WilliamJ (4 months ago)

Maybe numbered by Charlie Eppes; it could be endless ? If it's by Jack Bauer otherwise, MS has just 24 hours left to live !

0 upvotes
Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (4 months ago)

Common Samsung..... make a move. You need to release the first FF mirrorless like you did with the aps-c

3 upvotes
Aleo Veuliah
By Aleo Veuliah (4 months ago)

The first fullframe mirrorless already exist for a long time. Made by Leica.

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (4 months ago)

Ok....first AUTO FOCUSING FF mirrorless camera.

I see leica on its own. I dont really see it as a mirrorless. its a niche rangefinder.

1 upvote
back2photography
By back2photography (4 months ago)

Isn't the Sony A99 FF, mirrorless?

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (4 months ago)

A99 definitely has a mirror.

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magneto shot
By magneto shot (4 months ago)

hello, The Sony X1 is FF and mirrorless. next..

0 upvotes
King Penguin
By King Penguin (4 months ago)

Who pays for it? We do, as it will be added in the price of every product they sell.........that's how the world works!

0 upvotes
kff
By kff (4 months ago)

Shame to Nikon, to support similar rules ... OK, Samsung :-)

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kff
By kff (4 months ago)

Microsoft, Oracle, Apple ...

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QuarterToDoom
By QuarterToDoom (4 months ago)

At least Barnes & Nobel got some kahunas http://androidcommunity.com/barnes-noble-reveals-microsofts-android-patents-in-detail-20111114/

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kff
By kff (4 months ago)

People who approve patents maybe aren't so experts how these documents need.... A very mildly form how to say it...
Money are a very strong argument these days :(

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Indulis Bernsteins
By Indulis Bernsteins (4 months ago)

In fact there is deliberately little or no expertise applied to patent acceptance in the US Patent Office, the IP system is now set up to use the legal system to decide who is right. Expensive, fraught with the dangers of having big players bully small players just from the sheer weight of their legal armies and resources. Irrespective of the actual IP facts. Though of course it keeps armies of lawyers employed. SOftware patents are particularly difficult, as there are "obvious" ways of doing something in the same way that there are obvious ways to drive a car around a 45 degree bend, given the same car mechanics and experience with driving around a 90 degree corner.

The patents which I love are the ones which implement known technologies and approaches and just insert the words "mobile phone" into something that has been done for 20+ years over wires.

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QuarterToDoom
By QuarterToDoom (4 months ago)

Hey that's a nice Android based camera you have there. It be a shame if someone would sue you for patent infringement but we can make it go away if you sign this deal and pay us. Now we cant 'tell you what you're infringing on but trust us, you are. Oh and by the way you can't tell anyone what the patents are...

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Neodp
By Neodp (4 months ago)

You don't get it. Get sued by Microsoft, and *win*, and you still lose. The financial position of Microsoft is beyond layman comprehension. It's sad we allow he who has the gold, to make the rules.

We, yes we, are responsible for this, and not just the corrupted system. Every time you go buy a computer, you put-up with Microsoft, as the only option, to get the price you want. As if the OS was really not a tax!

You Apple users are in the same boat, with Apple, who is likely owned, by Bill Gates. Does anyone really think, that Microsoft does not know how bad their products are? This is all about planned obsolescence.

Nikon, grow some. The IP extortion is a house of cards. You are going to lose it all.

We need to stand together; against Microsoft. If enough people wake up, large, threatened companies, and our representatives will (supposedly) act.Yet we will have to put down the corruption. However, their track record is post-dumb stupid. Tell them about it.

It's Harder to recover.

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Neodp
By Neodp (4 months ago)

Guess what Nikon? If you're dealing with Microsoft, I'm no longer dealing with you. Why should I pay you cash, to turn around an give some of it to Microsoft? That is feeding the wolf. Starve the wolf; stop feeding it.

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QuarterToDoom
By QuarterToDoom (4 months ago)

With STEAM officially on Linux and Ouya (Android) and Steam Box (Linux) about to hit the market you can bet MS is going to be like a rabid cornered dog.

4 upvotes
Juck
By Juck (4 months ago)

Quartertodoom,,,,, what a load of crap,,, MS won't lose a second of sleep over any of that. You linux clowns,, making me laugh for over 20 years. Linux is a blip,, always will be.

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gsum
By gsum (4 months ago)

Juck, you're the clown. Linux is all over the place. If you own a PVR or a smart telly for example, you're probably running Linux.
Microsoft is sweating because they can see that Google/Android is taking over. Google have already killed MS Office with Google Docs. Who in their right mind would pay for Office now?
You should try a modern Linux distribution such as Ubuntu before displaying your ignorance.

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QuarterToDoom
By QuarterToDoom (4 months ago)

Riiight Jack Valve with 5.16 million users logged in every day and the worlds most popular game distribution network have no idea what they are doing. They're just flat out wrong spending millions converting games to work with their Linux version and soon coming out with a Steam console which is powered by Linux.

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WilliamJ
By WilliamJ (4 months ago)

To gsum : right ! Only naive ones pay for Office nowadays. I do use LibreOffice and it's just perfect... and free. Link: http://www.libreoffice.org/#0

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JaFO
By JaFO (4 months ago)

The biggest problem is that 90% of users are naive enough to either pay for whatever is popular (be it MS Office, Lightroom or Photoshop) or use an unlicensed copy (piracy helps these guys remain de facto standards ... ).

Either way they're preventing open/free systems from ever becoming a threat to established companies like MS, Google, Apple and Valve.

*if* we stood together MS & co would have died ages ago.
It didn't happen.
It won't happen.
It's not going to happen, because the majority is too naive and lazy to care.

@QuarterToDoom : the only reason Valve 'hates' Windows is because it would make their Steambox more expensive.
I'd expect most users to downgrade to Windows after they notice how much more software they could be buy once they do ...

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magneto shot
By magneto shot (4 months ago)

MS hire people and creates solutions and sells them.
Some companies makes things open source, harvest from it and points finger at MS for charging. These same companies later produces commercial versions based on harvested works and charges for it.

Bill gates is doing mankind much better favour than fragmented 1000 linux's each wanting its own name . At least now he is fighting real viruses and ridding diseases while we sit down here and fight over which company is "do no evil"

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Neodp
By Neodp (3 months ago)

A. If he was authentically charitable, no one wouldn't know about it. It's not like, this is his last penny. However, good was done; in his PR campaign, so the good, is good, and the posing, not so much.

B. You just don't get the GNU/Linux thing. There are many compilations of a built-up, and complete starter system. That better answers to specific needs. Such as, (1) new users needing a super easy install. (2) The likes of Microsoft, can not shut them all down!

C. I sorry if this peeves someone off; but an open distribution, such as Linux Mint (Set to Mate) doesn't exist solely to compare with Microsoft, and how it works, in the most minute detail. It's better than that. Ludicrous thought number (1), is when Windows breaks, people say COMPTERS SOCK. Yet (2), When "Linux"(a distro) breaks, people yell LINUX fail. As if, a state of the art distributions, like Linux Mint, are responsible for things like failing hardware (RAM, HD), that you tried it on and ILLEGAL MICROSOFT ROAD BLOCKS.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (4 months ago)

The real criminals are ...

The politicians.... lawyers.... and judges that allow this to happen.

16 upvotes
WilliamJ
By WilliamJ (4 months ago)

Right ! We should better have a police who has an eye on our elite, than on the citizen. Everything would be alright suddendly !

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MGJA
By MGJA (4 months ago)

Oh, delightful. The cartel of huge software vendors that have ruthlessly exploited all the failure modes of the US legislative process by intense lobbying and campaign donations to basically turn the mobile market into a cozy little oligopoly are now leveraging their "software patent" dysfunction into other fields, as mobile features transcend phones.

Great. Just great.

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SirSeth
By SirSeth (4 months ago)

I've read the article several times now and I'm still shaking my head as to what this is really about. It's Android. Linux based. An OS owned by Google. Why is Microsoft intellectual property licencing involved? Do they own the idea of an OS or something. The Redmond blurb seems to indicate that this mutually beneficial partnership is about making more services available, but the DPR copy makes it sound like Microsoft is suing all these companies pants off for stealing intellectual property. (Ok, maybe a little hyperbole there).

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R Butler
By R Butler (4 months ago)

Microsoft isn't publicly disclosing which patents it thinks are being infringed, so it's impossible to know exactly what the issue at stake is. But, despite Android being Linux-based, many companies making Android products have eventually concluded that it's easier to license these patents from Microsoft than fight it in court. (Especially as an 'initial determination' suggested Microsoft had a case against Motorola)

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (4 months ago)

SirSeth wrote: "It's Android. Linux based. An OS owned by Google. Why is Microsoft intellectual property licencing involved?"

Here's a quote from a 2012 Mashable article:
"Microsoft holds many patents that relate directly to technologies used in the Android operating system and Chrome browser, and the company makes hundreds of millions of dollars every year from its licensing agreements with various manufacturers."

There are other recent articles I didn't quote from, with titles like "Did You Know Microsoft Makes Five Times More Money From Android than From Windows Phone?" and "World's most profitable Android company? Microsoft!?"

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (4 months ago)

Google makes 100's of millions as well as microsoft. Google makes its bulk from google being google.

Microsoft has some patents(motorola had more and now google has all of them). Soon them patents will be determined to broad/or become invalid, and then they wont make anything.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (4 months ago)

One of these days I am convinced that someone will claim to hold the patent for "All Digital Cameras". It is all just a game of Poker. Everyone is just upping the stakes hoping everyone else folds.

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Revenant
By Revenant (4 months ago)

It's not a game of poker, it's a game of thrones.

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Spectro
By Spectro (4 months ago)

kodak owns most of the digital camera patents, they are getting royalty from. That is why companies are going after kodak in bankruptcy, to buy some of those patents.

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Aleo Veuliah
By Aleo Veuliah (4 months ago)

Very good TV show, the Game of Thrones.

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zaurus
By zaurus (4 months ago)

The patent deal is not Android-based (although the camera is), it is Android-related.
This is not nitpicking. Your title makes it sound that somehow it is Android/Google's fault that companies are forced into such deals.
Please fix it.

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R Butler
By R Butler (4 months ago)

I've amended the headline to remove the ambiguity.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (4 months ago)

Yes, it is Google's fault that their OS is not patent-clean.

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WilliamJ
By WilliamJ (4 months ago)

Does that mean that future Nikon's too will include in their circuits a backdoor (cf: http://tinyurl.com/32gogme ) that allows the Magic Lantern users (cf: http://tinyurl.com/28x228 ) to browse at their heart content your SD card ?

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Octav1an
By Octav1an (4 months ago)

this is spam. it includes vague disguised links

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (4 months ago)

Good grief.. get a grip.

It's absolutely NOT spam.

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Total comments: 55