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iFixit tears down iPhone 5, reveals new camera sensor and sapphire glass lens

By dpreview staff on Sep 21, 2012 at 14:17 GMT

The tech-elves over at iFixit.com have published a complete teardown of the new iPhone 5, barely hours after the handset first became available. Obviously, we're most interested in the camera, which according to Apple, will give improved image quality over its predecessor. Although a teardown doesn't reveal much about how the new device will actually perform, it's interesting to see everything reduced to its component parts.

Apple is making a lot out of the fact that it is using sapphire crystal in the iPhone 5's camera. According to Miroslav Djuric, 'Chief Information Architect' at iFixit, 'sapphire would be a sensible choice to use as the outermost camera element because it is remarkably hard — a 9/10 on the Mohs hardness scale'.

You know the specs, but what does the iPhone 5 look like when reduced to its component parts? Click the link below to find out.

According to Djuric, 'we tried scratching the clear cover with a pair of steel tweezers and the lens remained scratch-free. While this doesn't confirm that the protective cover is made from sapphire crystal, it does mean that it is quite hard and scratch resistant.'

Comments

Total comments: 105
parkmcgraw
By parkmcgraw (Oct 1, 2012)

1) The term “sapphire glass” is an oxymoron being that glass is an amorphous material, where as sapphire is a crystal matrix. Disappointing for an “optics” related site to not know or be sensitive to the difference. But then again, most iPhone users are simply thumbology masters that graduated from some other toy, perhaps a Blackberry or PS2, and know little if anything about physics and optics. What’s next, degrees Kelvin?

2) Being that sapphire has a high index of refraction needs an optical coating to reduce reflections off the first surface do to impedance mismatch at the surface between n1 (air) and n2 (window). The article, from the attempt to scratch the surface of the window, reads as though the sapphire widow is without an antireflection coating.

0 upvotes
Slava123
By Slava123 (Oct 3, 2012)

Impedance mismatch, eh?

What's wrong with degrees kelvin? A quick search shows that the editors of Physical Review and Science are fine with it, but who are those people, right?

Calm down dude, it's not a window, it's a lens :)

0 upvotes
janneman02
By janneman02 (Sep 30, 2012)

can one make calls with it?

0 upvotes
UponQuai
By UponQuai (Sep 29, 2012)

Tim cook said "Sorry...."
http://9gag.com/gag/5457666

1 upvote
riknash
By riknash (Sep 27, 2012)

Where does one purchase a proprietary pentalobe screwdriver?

0 upvotes
Bob from Plymouth
By Bob from Plymouth (Sep 26, 2012)

I was going to watch the video but I'm sorry to say I found the woman with the voice of an eight year old child so irritating I stopped it.

0 upvotes
slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (Sep 26, 2012)

must agree ...

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jsis
By jsis (Sep 24, 2012)

Who cares about a camera on a phone... this is free advertising for Apple.

3 upvotes
Dan
By Dan (Sep 25, 2012)

Most of the time, the camera on my iPhone is the ONLY camera I have with me, so I care.

2 upvotes
WaltFrench
By WaltFrench (Sep 26, 2012)

If I remember correctly, surveys find that smartphones are used #1 for apps and/or web access, #2 for texting/tweeting and #3 for voice. Pictures are probably close behind voice.

Your post makes perfect sense — for somebody who hasn't prioritized other features besides voice — the defining characteristic of high-end phone users.

0 upvotes
Brit42
By Brit42 (Nov 5, 2012)

I care. Shlepping my Olympus Pen around all the time simply isn't practical. But the iPhone 5's camera (especially in conjunction with the free "Camera Awesome" App ) means I now rarely miss an opportunity to capture an image or two during the working day.

If we persist in listening to the geniuses on Wall Street, who for years were clamoring for Apple to be sold to IBM and then handily wrecked a global economy through their intellectual prowess, we'd never see innovation or the fruits of R&D because firm who engage in that - like Apple, Nokia etc, get punished by the investment community for "diverting" revenues from profits.

So....the iPhone's camera is a perfect traveling companion for me.

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TheProv
By TheProv (Sep 24, 2012)

Waiting for review of supersampling Apple's implementation.

0 upvotes
Judy Stone
By Judy Stone (Sep 24, 2012)

I never owned an iPhone or any Apple product, and yet my world is happy. I must be an iGenius.

8 upvotes
The Jacal
By The Jacal (Sep 23, 2012)

Q. How do you know when somebody has an iPhone???

A. They tell you.

17 upvotes
Scott Greiff
By Scott Greiff (Sep 23, 2012)

Even as an iPhone user, I LOL'ed.

4 upvotes
pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 23, 2012)

Some people have Gaydar, but I have Appledar and can spot 'em a mile off, they don't even have to say anything!

9 upvotes
pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 23, 2012)

... or even walk funny.

1 upvote
gsum
By gsum (Sep 23, 2012)

How do you tell an iPhone user to get lost?
Recommend they use Apple maps

How do you annoy an iPhone user (UK)?
Ask them if they have 4G.

9 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Sep 23, 2012)

@ The Jacal - it was funny when Zach Braff said it.

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The Jacal
By The Jacal (Sep 23, 2012)

@Barney Britton- I know I could (and will) google Zach Braff, but at the mo' I don't know who he is.

I would however like to take this opportunity to offer you my sincerest apologies for telling a joke that you've heard before.

6 upvotes
Vinand
By Vinand (Sep 22, 2012)

For everyone who is interested in the sensor. The camera sensor is being created by Sony (no suprise)...

Source:
http://www.t3.com/news/apple-iphone-5-camera

Here is the specsheet of the sensor series that they have used the iphone5:
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol68/pdf/sideview_vol68.pdf

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Sep 23, 2012)

Have your read your second link? It's hilarious:
"Figure 2
Sony's Objectives as an Image Sensor Supplier:
Incompatibility of image sensor specific processes and standard logic processes
Sensor process constraints
Inefficiencies caused by unnecessary logic processes
Constraints in process line generation
Performance and cost barriers to customization"

:)

1 upvote
Pavel Sokolov
By Pavel Sokolov (Sep 22, 2012)

Who need an unscratchable lens when you should buy new iphone every year? ;)

16 upvotes
Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 22, 2012)

An iPhone usually last more than four years.

+I am selling my 2 years old iPhone4 on eBay and the next guy will use it for another two years. The just released iOS6 and the next iOS7 will support iPhone4 so the software will be current till at least September 2014

4 upvotes
Pavel Sokolov
By Pavel Sokolov (Sep 22, 2012)

iphone in the our country(and in many other countries) is not a smarphone but thing that shows your social status for many people ;) like expesive car or something like that. So, you can't wear previous year collection and you can't have previous iphone ;)

14 upvotes
jmmgarza
By jmmgarza (Sep 22, 2012)

Pavel, Quite pretentious and childish. Very sad. In America many do the same.

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itsastickup
By itsastickup (Sep 22, 2012)

Perhaps, but adults do that all over the world.

4 upvotes
pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 22, 2012)

Interesting, because where I live, owning anything produced by Apple makes you look like a gullible idiot!

Before their battle with Samsung, owning an Apple product basically made you look like a follower, someone who can't think for themselves. But now it's even worse, it looks like you have no morals either.

One thing for sure is that it's no status symbol here, at least, not unless you want your status to be one of those I mentioned above :-)

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Jink
By Jink (Sep 22, 2012)

Pumeco, it sounds like you may be suffering from Apple-envy. It is treatable but expensive. It requires the purchase of an iPhone 5 ;)

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 22, 2012)

Well, I have just a little under one and a half grand to spend on such products as Apple produce right now. I'm preparing to emigrate and need an ultra-portable device.

Let me assure both you, and Apple, they won't be getting a penny of it :-)

Not only that, I want to be able to pull the phone out in public without feeling stupid, and I really don't think that's possible with an iPhone 5. I'd be worried about getting held down by a gang, and forcefully having the word "Gullible" tattooed across my forehead.

As for treatment; you might like to know the cost for Apple users is cheaper still.

Thanks for the giggle though ;-)

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 23, 2012)

@ Pavel Sokolov
Yes, I seem to have forgot that Russian like foreign high-end products. Here in the US, an iPhone is the same price as ever other flagship phones and have better resell values so for quite a number of people is it actually cheaper.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Sep 23, 2012)

I'm looking at the iPhone 5 because my iPhone 3GS is now over three years old. Because I don't switch out gadgets on a whim. I sure wish I was one of those people who could afford to...

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Gary Dean Mercer Clark
By Gary Dean Mercer Clark (Sep 23, 2012)

The iphone is not a status symbol. It just works. Its a tool, nothing more. I own one---who cares? No one.

4 upvotes
Sephirotic
By Sephirotic (Sep 23, 2012)

Let me gess pumeco, you live in Korea.

4 upvotes
Pavel Sokolov
By Pavel Sokolov (Sep 23, 2012)

@Peiasdf - current price for iphone5 in russia is about $2000 for 64gb model :) Just a few years ago, any Apple product was a gay marker here :) even today there is a lot jokes about it. @gary mercer - is it a good price to care about? :)

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 23, 2012)

@Sephirotic
My god, I wish I did live in Korea, the women ... the beautiful women!

@Pavel Sokolov
Count yourself lucky then, because where I come from, an iPhone still hints you are gay even to this day.

1 upvote
marosini
By marosini (Sep 23, 2012)

gotcha! pumeco is from Mordor! ;))

4 upvotes
pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 23, 2012)

:-D

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Sep 23, 2012)

"current price for iphone5 in russia is about $2000 for 64gb model"

The same model without 2-year phone plan (and it's subsidy) is going to be $849 in the US (at least in the states without sales tax). You can fly to NYC from Moscow, rent a car, drive to Delaware, buy unlocked iPhone5 64GB, fly back - and still be better off than buying it in Russia.

1 upvote
Kabe Luna
By Kabe Luna (Sep 24, 2012)

So much vitriol–why? Apple's just another brand, after all. I use their computers bcuz my experience has been they are simple and reliable. My Dad still uses my now nearly 15-year G3 Power Mac desktop, purchased new for my senior year in graphic design school. It's slow and has had to add a USB port since the SCSI that was then mainstream is no longer supported, but for desktop publishing and playing music, he's happy with it. Matter of fact, every one of the six Macintosh computers I've bought is still in use by someone in my family. That I am a user of Apple gear isn't because I'm pretentious, slavish or not smart enough to get on with a PC, but because they've proven to be high quality, high performance and reliable devices. If I could say the same of the PCs I've used, I'd be a happy user of PCs.

My iPhone 4 was preceded by a Motorola Cliq and Blackberry Bold–both of which suffered catastropic failures within 6 months. 2 years later, the iPhone has never experienced a failure.

5 upvotes
elave
By elave (Sep 24, 2012)

The new iPhone is more of a fashion statement than a real jump from the 4s. It should have been named the 4sS ..

1 upvote
thermal1
By thermal1 (Sep 24, 2012)

I strongly disagree that you can determine a person's morals by the phone they use, or the car they drive, or the movies they like.

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WaltFrench
By WaltFrench (Sep 26, 2012)

@Peiasdaf — even after Apple no longer adds new features that your former phone can use, it should still continue to work at its previous very nice level.

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OneGuy
By OneGuy (Sep 22, 2012)

Gorilla glass lens.

It is more complicated than the Sony RX1 and should cost more than $2,800.

What?

1 upvote
taotoo
By taotoo (Sep 22, 2012)

No way will it be sapphire crystal. Probably just a hard plastic.

1 upvote
AlephNull
By AlephNull (Sep 22, 2012)

Why couldn't it be sapphire? They use sapphire crystal (in much larger pieces) on watches that cost a fraction of the price of this phone.

3 upvotes
jmmgarza
By jmmgarza (Sep 22, 2012)

Smaller... cheaper.

0 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Sep 22, 2012)

Hard plastic, lol.

0 upvotes
OneGuy
By OneGuy (Sep 23, 2012)

Sapphire lens will last alright -- just don't coat it.

0 upvotes
jsis
By jsis (Sep 24, 2012)

sapphire crystal = glass

Don't buy into the hype.

2 upvotes
MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Sep 26, 2012)

Hype? You've got this totally backwards. The material known as sapphire glass is NOT glass at all, but is manmade crystalline sapphire sliced into sheets. Sapphires have been synthesized for over a century and enormous crystals can be grown. Sapphire watch crystals are also actual sapphire, not glass.

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Rooru S
By Rooru S (Sep 22, 2012)

still has the Sony sensor or not?

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UponQuai
By UponQuai (Sep 22, 2012)

Lol .............
Lol .............
Lol .............
http://9gag.com/gag/5419582

10 upvotes
Rooru S
By Rooru S (Sep 22, 2012)

thanks! It made me smile and even laugh til the end hahaha

1 upvote
OneGuy
By OneGuy (Sep 22, 2012)

Super! This is what distinguishes the iPhone owner from all others: They don't think it's funny and they don't know what the fuss is about.

2 upvotes
Timur Born
By Timur Born (Sep 23, 2012)

You're holding it wrong! :P

2 upvotes
GordonAtWork
By GordonAtWork (Sep 21, 2012)

Is that why it costs over a grand ?

1 upvote
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Sep 23, 2012)

?

1 upvote
RadPhoto
By RadPhoto (Sep 24, 2012)

@GordonAtWork at least try to be smart when you lie! Even dpreview people are baffled with your comment!

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Gerard Hoffnung
By Gerard Hoffnung (Sep 25, 2012)

@RadPhoto
UK Price without contract for the 32Gb version is £600, nearly $1000 US
64Gb is £700 ($1135 US)

2 upvotes
Dan
By Dan (Sep 25, 2012)

And that's the only way I'm going to buy a phone. I'm not going to lock myself into their ridiculous contracts.

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makofoto
By makofoto (Sep 26, 2012)

Since the iPhone has such good resale value, I'm getting $320 for my 4s, it "only" costs me a couple of hundred to upgrade to the 5. My iPhone is being constantly used, for txt'ing, email and occasional phone calls. I have apps on it that I need for work. I would upgrade for the camera improvements alone, since after all I'm a photographer. I get my jobs with it so I'm not about to penny pinch with it. On our Hollywood sets almost everyone uses one, as well as almost every computer being an Apple. On my commercials I would say there are typically 25 Apple laptops to one PC, usually owned by the corporate client. My gal didn't like all of the Apple hype so she went from a 3s to a Thunderbolt. She claims she likes it but I hear her muttering about it a lot. Yes, Apple Maps is a disgrace! I hope I can download Google Maps when I get the 5 delivered later this week. But on the other hand her map app is always shutting down at the most inopportune time ...

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Preternatural Stuff
By Preternatural Stuff (Sep 26, 2012)

You live in an unreal world detached from reality... wait ... Hollywood did you say? No wonder.

Hollywood types are quite airheads who spend money on stupid things while thinking they are cool...nothing new. Wait … I reckon there's an Apple parallel there...?

In all the competitive commercial tenders, whether private, public sector or MNCs, I have yet to see an Apple solution. & I'm talking about computers ordered in their hundreds or thousands. That's why Apple is non-existent in the enterprise field.

"iPhone high resale value" claims are not something to be proud of but something to be ashamed of! It only proves that iPhone users are utterly clueless. Buy a used phones with sealed batteries most likely worn out? Not in my life. Pay $320 for a one year old Apple product (equivalent to 2-3 year old relic in normal world IT time)? Shoot me 1st.

Name an app not available on Android & I will name you ten that are available on Android but can never be available on Apple.

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vFunct
By vFunct (Sep 21, 2012)

How long before the iPhone camera has an image stabilizer? I know cell phone cameras are starting to put them in already.

Image stabilization could add 4 stops of light-gathering, a huge improvement, plus reduce camera shake for video.

1 upvote
abnorm
By abnorm (Sep 21, 2012)

iphone cameras are already stabilized starting with iphone 4.

1 upvote
Dan
By Dan (Sep 22, 2012)

NO, the iPhone has digital stabilization. We want OPTICAL image stabilization. http://wpnow.net/2012/09/10/iphone-4s-vs-nokia-lumia-920-image-stabilization-test/

1 upvote
Plastek
By Plastek (Sep 22, 2012)

Digital IS can be very good if made well :)
Don't compare apple with oranges. Nokia got amazing, well-made OS - praise for them. But it has nothing to geal with digital vs optical IS. Only issue with digital OS is the fact that it produces artifacts in video - through this as well depends on processing power and methods used.

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Cheapskate
By Cheapskate (Sep 25, 2012)

Who cares?

Just get the Nokia Lumia 920 which has mechanical sensor IS. But even for that I would take 4 stops with a pinch of salt.

I wonder if it is just a Saphire coating because Saphire has lower light transmission than glass at under 90% for most wavelengths.

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Dan
By Dan (Sep 25, 2012)

Digital image stabilization can be good? LoL? That's why you see all the best products with digital stabilization...NOT. It doesn't matter if it "can" be good. What matter is its actual performance.

The 920 uses both digital AND optical image stabilization.

http://www.viddler.com/v/c951803a?secret=62730224

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Thakur Dalip Singh
By Thakur Dalip Singh (Sep 21, 2012)

why to strip down iPhone 5, because following link show Nokia 920 is far better. I dont say much but it is worth reading this link.
-- http://www.nok4us.com/2012/09/specs-sheet-lumia-920-vs-apple-iphone5.html

3 upvotes
sdchew
By sdchew (Sep 23, 2012)

Err. You're forgetting that the Lumina 920 isn't on sale yet.

0 upvotes
Pixel Judge
By Pixel Judge (Sep 21, 2012)

Interesting video.
I would like to have her number, so I know who to call when my camera needs repair.

2 upvotes
Lupti
By Lupti (Sep 21, 2012)

The only thing that interests me about the Iphone 5: Will it blend? LOL

13 upvotes
Vlad S
By Vlad S (Sep 22, 2012)

The sapphire glass probably will not blend :-P

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 21, 2012)

I was going to visit the link and then thought to myself, why bother?

I've seen Samsung and Sony components in my Samsung and Sony products, and prefer to see them in their rightful place. Would it be too much to ask for them to leave it in pieces?

Please?

PS: That manufacturing process looks like it's out of calibration looking at the amount of dust gathering between the glass and aluminium!

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 22, 2012)

That's step 32 out of 34 steps. The iPhone was already in pieces at that time. You should have visited the link before making such assumption.

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 22, 2012)

Just so you know, it's a wisecrack, not an assumption.

If I were dumb enough to actually care what's inside an iPhone, I'd likely be the type of person that already owns one. Thankfully, I'm not, and couldn't give a crap about what's inside an iPhone.

To me, the fact that there are Samsung and Sony components inside an Apple product, but there are no Apple components inside a Samsung or Sony product, speaks volumes.

Then again, I'm not a brainwashed Apple user, and therefore, am perfectly capable of working these things out for myself. I prefer freedom, and being an adult capable of knowing when I'm being manipulated, I refuse to be kept on Apple-branded leash called iTunes.

I'm not a dog, and won't play fetch for Apple.

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Jink
By Jink (Sep 22, 2012)

pumeco, what we resist, persists.

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 22, 2012)

WTF, Jink, you're going around replying to all my Apple posts :-P

You'll never convert me to Apple, never, no matter what you say. Only Apple can convert me to Apple and there's no way that is going to happen until:

A - They quit tying everything to iTunes.
B - They allow iOS development actually on an iOS device.
C - They provide an editable EQ as standard.

The only reason Apple have been able to achieve what they have achieved, is the physical quality of the hardware. Without that, it's just far too manipulative a format compared to the competition, and no one in the right mind would pay the prices they demand otherwise.

Sorry mate, no Apple here ;-)

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 23, 2012)

@ pumeco
You replied to an article that's about iPhone teardown even though you did not actually go through the teardown.

After being pointed out you don't actually don't know what you are talking about you proceeded to rant how Samsung and SONY is superior.

Is there a chip on your shoulder? Are you compensating for something or just looking for a fight?

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 23, 2012)

@Peiasdf
I always visit Apple related threads because I like to analyse the behaviour and reactions of the general Apple using public, it's been a favourite pass-time of mine for years now.

As for me not knowing what I'm talking about, let's remember that I'm not the one who owns a "locked-in" Apple product, you are.

It might surprise you to know this, but I'm guessing that when people try pointing out to you what you're supporting, they are doing it, subconsciously, for your own good. Sure there are those that do it just for a kick, but for most it's the unfathomable fact that "adults" actually buy Apple products.

I mean if you're a teenager, then fair enough; a teenager can't be expected to pick-up on when they're being manipulated without more life experience. But for an adult to do that, I'm sorry, but an adult should know better; that's what drives people to comment in the way they do.

It comes across so incredibly dumb for a adult to fall for it, it makes a person wonder.

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persiyan
By persiyan (Sep 24, 2012)

Most generalization are in fact a byproduct of limited knowledge and biases, and you're projecting a whole lot of generalizations. Do you disagree that Apple products are different enough to warrant a fairly knowledgable person into opting to buy an Apple product rather than products you would consider superior? Perhaps, they like the OS better or the handling, size, or a number of other reasons? I mean, do you actually think everyone who buys an iPhone are in fact dumb people who only fell for the marketing and not because they just might like the device?

You're sitting here and talking about dumb people who fall for marketing and love a company to an unreasonable degree, but do you realize that you're on the exact opposite of this spectrum, and your kind is just as annoying. It's fine if you don't like a product, don't buy it. Instead go and buy a superior product and then spout on online forums how you're the pinnacle of your species, because that's the "adult" thing to do.

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RadPhoto
By RadPhoto (Sep 24, 2012)

@pumeco it's the OS, stupid!

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 24, 2012)

@RadPhoto
It's the marketing and physical qualities. Usability of the OS is only a small part of it, silly.

@persiyan
An intelligent question that deserves an intelligent answer.

I don't disagree that Apple products are different enough to warrant even a very knowledgeable person to want one, but not to buy one.

Wanting is understandable, but buying isn't when you take into account what you're buying into. You're buying into a locked system, one where Apple can dictate whatever it likes. Apple users are prepared to buy into this despite the fact that we humans have been fighting for freedom since as far back as any of us can remember.

Apple overstep the mark because you're:

A - Forced to buy Apps from Apple (AKA a Monopoly).
B - Forced to use iTunes to populate a device you paid for.

You're an adult, and should not be dictated to by a computer company. Being told what you can and cannot do, ends when you become an adult.

For Apple users, it continues even during adulthood.

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makofoto
By makofoto (Sep 26, 2012)

But the locked in Apple way means everything is VERY well integrated ...

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pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 26, 2012)

That's true, but it's still too manipulative. It would be different if, for example, they said right, we recommend you use iTunes, but if you want to do it your own way, fine, drag and drop like everyone else.

You don't have that option, you're forced to use iTunes, and you are forced to buy all Apps from Apple. On an Android device, no matter what the manufacturer, you are able to make choices as to where you buy your Apps, and that's what the governments need to force Apple to do.

Choice breeds a healthy economy, whereas monopolies damage the economy.

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Small Smile
By Small Smile (Sep 21, 2012)

My Samsung Galaxy Note lens has a protection filter... ;-)

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JackM
By JackM (Sep 21, 2012)

My Tag/Heuer watch has a sapphire crystal, it is unscratchable!! Nice move Apple.

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bushi
By bushi (Sep 24, 2012)

My Citizen watch also has one, and of course it IS scratchable - it all depends on the amount of pressure and the type of material that scratches against it ;). Ceramics and minerals tend to be very hard, so these can scratch sapphire, easily, if you are not careful.

It is rather tough, though!

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jsis
By jsis (Sep 24, 2012)

my watch is better than your watch, because mine costs $20k, but still does the same thing as your $10 Ronex.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Sep 26, 2012)

Sapphire is a 9 on the gemologists' Mohs scale, with diamonds at 10, meaning sapphires are right up there with the hardest of materials. 'Minerals' can be anything from talc to diamonds, and a sapphire crystal will be safe from almost all (likewise ceramics). I'm not an Apple fan, but this was a smart move.

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idbar
By idbar (Sep 21, 2012)

Here I was thinking they would show the revolutionary panorama engine chip.

Kidding ;-)

4 upvotes
pumeco
By pumeco (Sep 21, 2012)

:-D

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Fuchsteufel
By Fuchsteufel (Sep 21, 2012)

http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/6RsOCVTleZnGaPMl.huge

The iPhone 5 cam sensor (left) is about 20% smaller :( I loved the quality of 4s pictures, and I have an iPh5 on order. So disappointed. I may cancel and get a Galaxy or something.

8 upvotes
photofan1986
By photofan1986 (Sep 21, 2012)

If sensor size matters, get the Nokia 808 ;)

4 upvotes
Fuchsteufel
By Fuchsteufel (Sep 21, 2012)

Yeah, thanks :p I have a real camera, and I like having advanced smart phones too (which leaves out the 808). The better the camera on the phone, the more decent images I can get in situations where I didn't bring my real camera along.

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Klarno
By Klarno (Sep 21, 2012)

You're looking at the camera assembly, not the sensor. Your comparison right there is like saying the Sony NEX 7 must have a smaller sensor than the Canon 7D because the body is smaller.

We know the focal lengths of the lenses (4.28mm on the 4S, 4.13 on the 5). We know the effective focal length as embedded into the EXIF. (35mm on the 4S, 33mm on the 5). Simple math shows us that there is at most a 2.3% difference in sensor size.

If we consider that there may be a rounding error involved (since EFLs are always rounded to the nearest integer), and then consider that the true EFL of the 4S camera may be 34.6mm, and the EFL of the 5 camera may be 33.4mm, then we get at most a 0.04% difference in sensor size.

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Fuchsteufel
By Fuchsteufel (Sep 21, 2012)

@Klamo, good point. I also did the math with the EXIF data, and it could be that the sensor is the same size. Also, I could be wrong about the assembly. At first it looks like the 4S one is larger, but that could be just the grey padding around the border.

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HiRez
By HiRez (Sep 21, 2012)

By all accounts the iPhone 5 camera is even better than the 4S camera, especially in low-light, not to mention the sapphire lens cover, so I don't think you need to make any kind of tradeoff there.

For example:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/21/3363238/iphone-5-review

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 22, 2012)

Could you delete your comment so others won't be confused?

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Pam D
By Pam D (Sep 22, 2012)

I just bought an iPhone yesterday and took over 200 photos at my daughters 3rd birthday party today. I'm very disappointed with the image quality. More than half the photos are blurry or out of focus. The quality is as bad as the early 2MB digital cameras. I wonder if I have a defective iPhone 5.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 22, 2012)

@ Pam D
Could you tell me what country you are in? You have just registered so I cannot tell if you have bought an iPhone 5 or earlier models. Also, under what type of light were you trying to take picture?

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Henrikw
By Henrikw (Sep 22, 2012)

Judging by this review, the iphone 5 camera is much better!
http://gizmodo.com/5945262/iphone-5-camera-battle-is-it-the-best-smartphone-shooter

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stylinred
By stylinred (Sep 23, 2012)

well symbian belle fp2 can still do more things the iphone can... so it is more advanced...

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makofoto
By makofoto (Sep 26, 2012)

@Pam ... I don't know what your ability is as a photographer, but all the physics of photography still hold true even if you are using an i5. It's an even lighter camera that doesn't do well at dampening your movement, it's still a very small sensor, etc. IOW you have to do everything just right to get maximum quality out of your iPhone camera. Don't forget, the camera didn't take the photos ... you did. :-)

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