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Fujifilm improves X-Pro1 focusing with updated Firmware 2.0

By dpreview staff on Sep 19, 2012 at 13:00 GMT

Fujifilm has released firmware version 2 for the X-Pro1 mirrorless camera, that it promised before Photokina. The update improves aspects of the camera's operation that we criticised in our review, most notably focusing, both auto and manual. Firmware updates for each of the lenses are also required, and downloadable from Fujifilm's website. We've quickly tested the firmware and seen substantial improvements in both manual focus operation and autofocus speed - indeed we'd recommend all X-Pro1 owners install it. Click through for more details.


According to Fujifilm, Firmware 2.0 includes the following improvements:

1. Improvement of Auto Focus Performance

  1. Auto focusing speed has become much faster under a various shooting condition such as dark scenes, bright scenes and so on.
  2. The shortest focusing distance without switching to macro mode has become shorter.

2. Improvement of Manual Focus Performance

  1. The speed of images coming into focus when turning the focus ring has become faster.
  2. When adjusting the focus with the EVF or the LCD, displaying live view with the minimum depth of field in full aperture has made it easier to focus on subjects.
  3. In addition to the focus checking with the 10-time magnification function, the checking with "3-time" magnification function has been added.

3. Improvement of Writing and Processing Speed

  1. Writing speed to a memory card has become faster with the maximum speed doubled.
    Note: The speed may vary depending on card type and sizes of images.
  2. The waiting time of viewing image after shooting has become shorter.
  3. An image will be displayed approx. one second after pressing the playback button.

4. Other improvements

  1. The ISO setting of "Auto (6400)" has been added.
  2. When EVF or OVF is used, the indicator lamp will turn off because the lamp comes to just in front of your right eye if you see the finder with your left eye.
  3. When shooting in low light situation, a recorded image will look like more natural atmosphere you saw.

Autofocus speed comparison, Firmware 2 vs Firmware 1.2

We've tested autofocus speed under controlled conditions using the same camera and lens, first with FW 1.2 then after updating to FW 2.0. We've used the XF 60mm F2.4 R Macro - the slowest-focusing of the three lenses - under low-level artificial light, with a relatively low-contrast target and the lens initially set to infinity focus. These are the conditions under which the camera struggled most with FW 1.x, and should therefore show the most-obvious improvement. Note that under most conditions the camera will focus much faster than this.

The videos below illustrate the improvement in speed. Focusing is initiated shortly after the start of the video - the green lamp starts blinking when the shutter is half-pressed. The improvement of autofocus speed with Firmware 2 is plain to see.

Fujifilm X-Pro1, Firmware 1.2

 

Fujifilm X-Pro1, Firmware 2.0

 

Manual focus improvements

Fujifilm has made two important changes to manual focus operation that transform its usefulness. Firstly, the 'feel' of the manual focus has been radically improved - the focus ring no longer requires multiple turns to drive the lens from infinity to closest focus, so now feels much more responsive. The 'dead spot' past infinity, where the camera would fail to register turns of the focus ring in either direction, also appears to have been eliminated (this was a particular problem with the 35mm F1.4 lens). The result is that it's now much quicker to set the focus distance, and the 'focus-by-wire' mechanism responds much more like a traditional mechanically-coupled lens.

Secondly - and just as importantly - the camera now always sets the aperture wide open for manual focus, allowing critically-accurate focus in all lighting conditions. The addition of a 3x magnification mode (alongside the existing 10x) also aids focusing by reducing the visibility of camera shake, particularly with the 60mm F2.4 macro lens. The results is that focusing using magnified live view works very much better than before.

Other improvements

Fujifilm says file write times have been improved, and our tests bear this out. A full burst of 11 JPEG+RAW files previously took 55sec to write to card - that time has now been cut in half, to about 26sec with the same UHS-I SDHC card. The time taken to enter playback after shooting a single image is also much shorter than before; however you still have to wait 5 or 6 seconds if you take 2 shots quickly in a row.

Auto ISO has an extra option, Auto(6400), that gives access to ISO 6400 in Auto mode. But there's still no way to influence the minimum shutter speed in aperture priority mode, and the camera still chooses shutter speeds that are too slow to reliably eliminate camera shake. There's also no option to set exposure compensation to influence image brightness when using Auto ISO in manual mode. So while this change is welcome, its usefulness is limited.

Summary

We've been impressed by the way Fujifilm has embraced the idea of using firmware updates to improve its X-series cameras after release, fixing bugs and adding new features. With Firmware 2 for the X-Pro1, it's substantially improved the camera's focusing, which we considered to be its Achilles' Heel in our review. Autofocus speeds have undoubtedly been improved (although we've not yet had enough time to properly assess the impact on real-world shooting), and the previously-dysfunctional manual focus has essentially been fixed, and is now far more usable than it was before.

The upshot is that an X-Pro1 running firmware v2.0 is a much better camera than it was with v1.x. Fujifilm says the new X-E1 has exactly the same improvements, which means that the outlook for that model looks very positive. Huge credit must go to Fujifilm here - not only has it shown it's prepared to make innovative new products, it's also genuinely listening to criticism of its products and fixing their flaws. This can only be applauded.

Comments

Total comments: 71
TwoMetreBill
By TwoMetreBill (Oct 10, 2012)

My comments below are because of a desire for the X image quality, not a petite camera. Like even my small X-10, tripod use will be almost 100%. So size is not an issue with me as I might be mounting 1-3 KG (2-6 lb) lenses. For me it is all about IQ and replacing the mechanical Rube Goldberg devices known as DSLRs.

I'm not expecting anyone else to agree with my perspective and I certainly respect that others have different motivations for selecting a given camera. Given that...

While the improvements are appreciated and I'm close to replacing my Nikon gear for the IQ and modern technology (bouncing mirrors and inaccurate PD autofocus are as obsolete as carburetors and drum brakes on cars). But there are still, for me, critical problems to be solved first, problems that don't require a new body though I would like a larger body and 3-4x battery capacity.

1. Exposure bracketing: must add 3, 5, 7 exposures and a range up to at least 2 EV for each exposure.

2. Must have a first rate RAW processor. While Lightroom would be preferred, DXO would be acceptable with output to DNG.

3. Lens adapter with full electronic coupling for either Canon or Nikon lenses. This is to enable lens types which might be years away such as the Sigma 150-180mm macros and Nikon 24-85 and 70-180 zoom macro lenses.

Bill

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Petka
By Petka (Sep 28, 2012)

I just updated my X-Pro1. Two notes: this time the lens files have individual names which is good. Last time they had all at the same filename and had to be copied to the card, installed, removed and the next copied again. I actually just copied all 4 files to the card all at the same time. Lens file names could be even better and include something like 35_f14 in it, not just 1 2 and 3 at the end. Especially when there are more lenses in the lineup than now.

After installing the body firmware I turned on the camera. Date input screen appeared and I just turned the camera off and proceed to install the 60mm lens firmware. To my horror camera said something like this: "installation failure, contact service center". I kept my cool and turned the camera off, back on and set the date. After that all lens firmware installations went fine and the camera works as expected. Faster focus, etc.

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tmy
By tmy (Sep 27, 2012)

Thank you Fuji,
nice fixes.

I've just applied the new updates to the body and the 18mm and 35mm.
Very very nice.
Good to see a manufacturer that keeps their support up!

speaking of which, any chance of the 64 bit upgrade for your high end Coolscans?

Thanks Fuji!

2 upvotes
lazerbean
By lazerbean (Oct 31, 2012)

Think you're confusing Fuji and Nikon regarding the Coolscans, but I'm in the same boat - wouldn't mind, actually, if Fuji wrote new sw for Nikon's coolscans. That would show them :-)

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abolit
By abolit (Sep 25, 2012)

Fuji does not have to refine their crappy cameras because you buy it no matter what. Unreliable focus, slow AF speed, "rangefinder" optical viewfinder which doesn't represent the actual frame. That's ridiculous the way the focus mark is moving around depending on distance to object.
Fuji is experimenting new ideas which is great but you should not be victims trying to go around those quirks waiting for the next firmware that Fuji "kindly" provide one year later.
If the purchasers were more demanding , Fuji wouldn't let themselves put your money to their pocket until they get all the bugs sorted out.

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Mbaris
By Mbaris (Sep 25, 2012)

Well well, it is obvious that this camera is not for you, but please don't generalize. I like this camera so much that I rarely take my canon 5Dm2 outside my little home studio anymore. Probably they paid a lot for the royalties in that free firmware you see, I feel happy that they are committed and listening as a newcomer. This camera is really really magnificent, and the shortcomings actually make you think about your shots more. The outcome is really worth your trouble.

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marike6
By marike6 (Sep 27, 2012)

Where do you get a year for a firmware update? The X-Pro1 is only about 6 months old, and Fujifilm has done a great job addressing concerns of photographers. And now with the v2 Firmware, the XP1 is one of the very best ILCs available.

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Mbaris
By Mbaris (Sep 24, 2012)

It feels almost like a different camera now, much better! Another annoying bug this camera still has is when you use large cards with lots of RAW files inside, the camera takes a lot of time to get ready when you turn it on. That is also better now.

Wishlist: since OVF has a digital screen overlay, why don't they use it to display image from the lens in a box in the center so that we can have pseudo rangefinder style manual autofocusing? The digital overlay seems bright enough. Is it a copyright issue or technical issue?

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Ahmet Aydogan
By Ahmet Aydogan (Sep 24, 2012)

Mas54, you do realize that it's not a rangefinder, right? You actually need to lern how to use te camera before criticizing functionality it's not even supposed to have. The firmware pure works maxing well both for AF and improved MF!

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mas54
By mas54 (Sep 22, 2012)

After trying out a new X-Pro1 with the new firmware update installed, I'm still convinced not to buy one. In MF mode, there is still no way to focus using the optical viewfinder.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Sep 22, 2012)

Firmware releases with real improvements are some of the best ways to improve brand reputation. And they are not expensive if they are just backports of some features of new cameras (like in this case). Not nearly as expensive as marketing campaigns or massive returns.

2 upvotes
shutterdragon
By shutterdragon (Sep 21, 2012)

I love how Provia/Astia colors look, but there's currently no way to apply these color profiles during RAW processing. Too bad I can get these colors only on JPEG - I was really, really hoping Fujifilm would add a TIFF option. Maybe for v3.0?

1 upvote
marike6
By marike6 (Sep 20, 2012)

This makes my choice of X-E1 vs X-Pro1 so much harder. Whichever I buy, it will still be a second camera to my FF DSLR. And as much as I would love to have an X-Pro1 for the optical VF and the better LCD, the price difference is significant. But it's nice to have so many choices.

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abuhawa
By abuhawa (Sep 20, 2012)

I did a tremendous research comparing Olympus OMD and Fuji X-Pro1 and even with the known AF issue with X-Pro 1 I still ended up with X-Pro1. And indeed during my X-Pro1 use for almost 3 months with FW 1.1, the result is really not pleasing at all. I just missed so many great scene especially with my kids while indoor. Outdoor of course X-Pro1 AF work flawlessly. So bad that for really important session like my previous Muslim Eid celebration, I have to revert back to my bulky, heavy Nikon D7000. But really after the FW2.0, the experience is totally so good. The AF is super responsive! And it is so enjoyable too to use MF. Previously MF is rendered useless completely. Kudos to Fujifilm. Really hope upcoming FW 2.1 would implement the minimum shuttter speed.

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Asylum Photo
By Asylum Photo (Sep 20, 2012)

Yeah, that's basically the only real improvement I'd like to see myself (well, other than fanciful things, hah). If Fuji is reading this... please give us minimum shutter speed, and we'll stop whining!

...maybe

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Asylum Photo
By Asylum Photo (Sep 20, 2012)

To the people complaining about "beta testing". I have both the X100 and X-Pro1, and have greatly enjoyed using both. The fact they improved focusing speed a bit, and added a couple options a half a year after release doesn't take away from the 6 months of enjoyment I had from the camera initially. IMO, the camera was ready on launch, it just wasn't perfect.

I took the system on a two week vacation to Ireland, Scotland and England and it served me incredibly well. If they would have waited until now to release the system, I would have been "stuck" with a huge DSLR system and that would have cut down on my trip enjoyment (I intentionally traveled with just one backpack).

I'm not really sure when you expect a company to release a product. There will always be improvements that can be made. It's almost like saying Apple shouldn't have released iOS 1-5, because 6 is what it should have been.

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nickthetasmaniac
By nickthetasmaniac (Sep 20, 2012)

Of course a product is never going to be perfect, and I don't expect it to be. However, there's a bit difference between perfect, and 'ready for the market'. The X100 I owned was far from being ready for the market when it was released.

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Asylum Photo
By Asylum Photo (Sep 20, 2012)

Whereas both my X100 and X-Pro1 were not only "ready" (for me) but a joy to use, imo. I got great use out of both before the "final" firmware update(s). Maybe I just have lower expectations than others.

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nickthetasmaniac
By nickthetasmaniac (Sep 20, 2012)

Credit to Fuji? Really?

Yes, it's great that they fix bugs with quick and appropriate FW updates, but perhaps if they stopped treating early-buyers like beta-testers and actually thoroughly field tested their cameras before release (think X100, X10, X-P1), there'd be no need for dramatic firmware updates.

Fuji is coming out with some amazing ideas, but it seems to me that almost all of them need another 3 months of concept development...

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mr moonlight
By mr moonlight (Sep 20, 2012)

Canon, Nikon, Panasonic... cameras are more refined upon release, but their cameras are also all just further refinements and variations of earlier models. Do you remember the first Canon Rebel? It was slow as all hell and RAW was practically useless. Canon fixed the problem by annually releasing a new camera for us to buy. We can all say that the 350D is was the 300D should have been, the 400D is what the 350D should have been and so on. Fuji just upgrades your firmware. It's a lot cheaper!

12 years later all the kinks are worked out of the Rebel's. Fuji's just starting out with these cameras. Early adapters of new camera systems are all pretty much Beta testers. If you want a more refined camera, wait for the second generation.

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WellyNZ
By WellyNZ (Sep 21, 2012)

I've been happily using my XPro1 prior to the firmware 2.0 release without hitch or issue. It's worked great and I've got some fantastic images from it.. That the new firmware has improved the performance is a bonus. The camera worked perfectly well before, however.

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gigabloke
By gigabloke (Sep 21, 2012)

Excellent point from mr moonlight. Thanks!

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Aperture Geek
By Aperture Geek (Sep 20, 2012)

I have owned my XPro1 from the first release day. I have a rather large Nikon system and still got on with the much slower Fuji with enthusiasm. Every firmware update has greatly improved the camera and the 2.0 has taken it farther than I thought possible. The camera has a snappy focus in AF and the manual focus is awesome! I can't wait to try a Leica or Zeiss lens in an M mount. Both my 35mm and 18mm Fujinon lenses have been updated to version 2.0 and the camera is just about without fault in my book! It is my go to street camera now, besting my Nikon D300 and D3S. What an amazing design to use! If this camera interests you, my recommendation is to give it some time. It is not a DSLR! After some real photo time with the XPro1, you may find a truly old school meets new school camera experience. Love it!

And that new XE-1 is a damn bargain!

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codeNsnap
By codeNsnap (Sep 19, 2012)

I was always thought Fujifilm might put out better mirrorless cameras than Nikon/Canon/Sony etc mainly because they don't have a DSLR range that their mirrorless cameras might end up competing.

I am really happy to see the direction in which they are headed and am thinking of making a plunge for the XE-1. Nex with its APS-C seems close but not sure if Sony will ever take Nex as seriously as Fujifilm seems to be taking their X series.

6 upvotes
mjl699
By mjl699 (Sep 19, 2012)

Thank you Fuji for releasing this firmware and improving the focus speed and providing ISO 6400 amongst other things, making the X-Pro a very well-handling camera. Looking forward to further updates to introduce one or two new controls and to using the new lenses, especially the 14mm and the 23mm.

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Petka
By Petka (Sep 28, 2012)

Are you my lost identical twin brother?

Just came back form 12 day street/landscape photo vacation form Israel and Jordan with 3000 RAW files. I would not have taken nearly as many pictures with a large DSLR in those conditions, because it would have been not so much fun and easy. And I had everything (all 3 lenses) including all clothing etc in a 24 liter carry on pack...

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andreaThode
By andreaThode (Sep 19, 2012)

I am still undecided if I should jump in on the XE-1. Considering the new firmware on the Xpro1 with faster AF and the roadmap for new lenses it's a very intruiging camera package.

But then, the only camera that really turned me on was the RX-1. And I need to see more from this camera before I take the plunge.

In the end, I really applaud fujifilm for listening to the critics and make such efforts to prove they are in this business to stay and care for the customers. That said I was an early adopter of the X100 and sold it a month later because of the slowish overall behaviour ...

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 19, 2012)

I recently gave up on getting a Fujifilm camera, actually. As a Fuji camera customer, you have to do both Alpha and Beta testing yourself in the field, it seems. But if you wait long enough -- Fuji will certainly release a new firmware to fix the initial research lab & factory screw-ups.

They sort of remind me of the FORD motorcars of old, you know.

F-O-R-D: "Fix Or Repair Daily."

F-U-J-I: Oh well.... you know.

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rjx
By rjx (Sep 19, 2012)

andreaThode

Get the XPRO1 if you want something a little meatier in your hands, and want to use the OVF.

If you want something a little smaller, and are happy with the EVF, then the XE1 is the way to go.

You could buy a used XPRO1 and if you decide to buy the RX1, sell the XPRO1 and not really lose any money.

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hexxthalion
By hexxthalion (Sep 20, 2012)

@Francis - not sure what you're talking about Alpha and Beta testing. I didn't feel that way at all with my X100.

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abuhawa
By abuhawa (Sep 20, 2012)

By X-Pro1, with fW2.0, surely no regret. RX-1 has fixed lens. The X-Pro1 sensor will blow those bokeh, etc advantages of FF by RX-1 easily. Somemore, can change lenses.

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dtvt
By dtvt (Sep 19, 2012)

makes a great camera even better. still love the fact that people assume it's not a new/modern/digital camera. it's a joy to use.

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barjohn
By barjohn (Sep 19, 2012)

I'm not sure you aren't giving Fuji too much credit for carrying about the customer versus their bottom line. The X-Pro1 is still a relatively new camera and sales were probably not what Fuji expected after their wildly successful X100. As an early X100 owner, I can tell you that there are still many things that need to be addressed in the X100 and no firmware 2.0 has materielaized and they are still selling this model. Many of these improvements would be welcomed by X100 owners that seem to have been forgotten.

Even though I still like my X100 and haven't sold it, I didn't buy into the X-Pro1 or X-E1 because of the way they treated X100 owners. Instead I purchased an OM-D and I may now replace the X100 with the new Sony R-1. Had Sony built in a view finder there is no doubt that I would already have my order in for the R-1.

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RobBurke
By RobBurke (Sep 19, 2012)

Well said! The X100 has significant faults that ought to be fixable in firmware. I wouldn't consider another Fuji for that reason.

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andreaThode
By andreaThode (Sep 19, 2012)

Same here with the X100 albeit I sold mine after getting frustrated with the overall slowish behaviour. And I second your thoughts on the RX-1. For me it's the most intriguing camera atm. Can't wait to see more from its output.

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Sam Carriere
By Sam Carriere (Sep 19, 2012)

I have both an x100 and an X-pro1 and love them both. I photograph slowly and deliberately, maily landscapes, nature, streetscapes and the like and speed, whether of focus or writing to a card is inconsequential to me. These are not cameras for news photographers or sports fans. These are tools for people who love to take pictures with an instrument that feels just right and responds beautifully.

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hexxthalion
By hexxthalion (Sep 20, 2012)

@ Sam - spot on!

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Asylum Photo
By Asylum Photo (Sep 20, 2012)

The X100 has had firmware update support for 15 months. I'm not sure what other camera manufacturers do, but I think that's pretty decent. I assume they have turned their attention to the X-E1 or X200 at this point.

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Sep 19, 2012)

Great upgrade! I installed it before a model shoot yesterday and the focus was snappy and fast with the Fujinon 35mm in mixed lighting.

I agree about the lack of minimum shutter control. The X100 has this and it really makes a difference if you're not paying attention to the warning on the screen (or have it turned off).

I would love to have focus peaking as well (I have it now on my 5DmkIII and love it). But I also found a different technique to help with focusing.

Turn on RAW+JPG, change film simulation to BWg, Custom WB, 2500K, WB Shift to top right corner of R9 B9, Sharpness to +2, Highlight Tone -2, Shadow Tone -2. This will create a high contrast over sharpened image that should make it much easier to focus manually with. Throw out the JPG image after downloading.

It also helps in AF mode as you'll see the image peak for a brief second to lock onto focus.

Given how it looks like FujiFilm is committed to incremental updates, I'm sure more will be coming down the pipe.

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RussellInCincinnati
By RussellInCincinnati (Sep 19, 2012)

Thanks for this interesting suggestion, that am going to explore using with a Nex camera. Perhaps can suppress some of or even turn off focus peaking if your idea can be applied and works well.

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (Sep 19, 2012)

Don't you know Fuji FAQs are crap?

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andreaThode
By andreaThode (Sep 19, 2012)

Sounds like a good workaround. Do you have an advise for a good RAW converter that don't "smudge" the image. The RAWs out of Lightroom look horrible, imo. They lack detail and look like oilpaintings at 100%.

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Sep 19, 2012)

I have not found a RAW converter that is awesome, yet. What I have found is that the default import settings of LR is what causes that watercolour/oil painting look. I've set up my own preset to solve some of those issues:

My best results were the following:

Under the sharpening panel in LR
Amount 57
Radius 3.0
Detail 42
Masking 23

This seems to match as best I can with various files to in camera processing. Because of the unusual 6x6 mosaic pattern and lack of AA filter, sharpening reacts differently with the X-Pro1 files. I found you had to have the Radius at 3.0 rather than 1. I also found rather than use the Amount slider to adjust the sharpening algorithm, to use the Detail slider first then amount second off the baseline that I've used.

Other than that, the SilkyPix and Raw Photo Processor (via DCRAW) are the next best things but they have their own issues as well.

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andreaThode
By andreaThode (Sep 19, 2012)

Thanks for your suggestions! I'll try that with a couple of test images I took. I will also give SilkyPix a try but my daily workflow is so Lightroom oriented, that I find it hard to switch RAW converters and libraries (like most of us, I guess).

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EvilTed
By EvilTed (Sep 19, 2012)

There is no focus peaking on the 5D MK3...

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Sep 21, 2012)

If you are a supporter of the Magic Lantern team you can get an Alpha Version of the software. It works spectacularly well on my 5Dmk3

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Elinas
By Elinas (Sep 19, 2012)

Heehaa! Ok let's download it. I guess everyone was expecting it.

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Rob P
By Rob P (Sep 19, 2012)

Okay, good stuff Fuji. Nice to see a company that cares about its *existing* customers (and not just gaining new ones).

Next up: focus peaking and, more importantly, improved RAW conversion in Lightroom/ACR! If Lightroom could output the same quality from RAW files as the camera's JPEG files, I might be persuaded to buy. That's a dealbreaker for me right now.

As an aside, if Sony would address nagging issues and user interface problems with firmware updates rather than constantly releasing new camera bodies, they might win my loyalty. I like my NEX-7 but I don't like the way they are treating their customers.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Sep 19, 2012)

While I applaud Fujifilm for doing this firmware upgrade I'll just be honest and say that I'm mixed overall on the decision making and the camera itself- and I hope I'm not alone here with this thinking.

Fuji show a lot of promise but have yet to convince me of clicking the buy button. I smell a bit of nervousness in the firmware design of all of their cameras whether it be the menu, EXR, ISO, MF, or AF implementations.

Seems like this division is a new company by their actions, and its to be expected they have things to work out. Be nice to see them slow down a bit and get it right next time out of the gate. They have more competition now from Sony and others so they don't really have wiggle room if they want to capture a large portion of the market.

XE1 and NEX6 are the two most interesting cameras of Photokina, but I'd put my money on the NEX6/system for several reasons. I'm not alone, I'm sure.

Carl

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Rmano
By Rmano (Sep 19, 2012)

I hope we will see more firmware upgrades to all cameras in general. There is an awful tendency to leave the customer alone just after a new model is out of the door --- and Sony is one of the worst in this field: I bought an A55 less than an year ago, still in active catalogue here in Spain, and I have lost any hope to see some of the worst firmware glitches corrected. 2 to 3 years upgrades after the out-of-production date should be standard for a company respectful with their customers...
(in the case of Sony, with an open-source based firmware, is even offending, sometime... It feels they just stole it)

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Eppoh66
By Eppoh66 (Sep 19, 2012)

I'm very happy with this update. AF with both 18mm and 35 mm is now pretty quick and spot on each and every time. MF is a huge improvement too! I like the fact you're able tu choose between 3x and 10x enlargement with the EVF. Off course there's allways something more to be improved, but I'm very happy Fuji has done it this way and does not expect their users to buy a newer model like most other camera-brands seem to do... It's by far the best camera I've ever owned and not only because the IQ but also because I lover the handling of it. I probably will never go back to Nikon...

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smatty
By smatty (Sep 19, 2012)

Thank you dpreview for pointing out what is still missing and many of us have asked for in the past 6 month

1. Auto ISO with minimum shutter speed control in Aperture prioroty

2. Exposure compensation in Auto ISO manual mode!

I hope that Fuji listens and adresses these two points to make their X-Pro 1 and X-E1 even more usable :)

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cvye
By cvye (Sep 19, 2012)

Does this (should this) improve the score you gave in the review?

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motobloat
By motobloat (Sep 19, 2012)

Dpreview does say that they'll be "revisiting their conclusions". This is written on the first page of the X-pro1 review: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-pro1

I use Nikon cameras myself, but I think these firmware upgrades from Fuji are outstanding. Fuji is treating its customers right, and the improvements are substantial enough to warrant a re-scoring of the camera in reviews.

Few other camera companies listen to reviews and then actually improve the current model. Rather, they fix a bug or two, if any, and then add the improvements to the list for the next model. The customer has to wait years and then plunk down another wad of cash. Certainly a bad business practice, as all the while, the customers are seeing what Fuji has done and thinking about switching to a company that treats them better. I know I am.

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LaFonte
By LaFonte (Sep 19, 2012)

Good test, because on the 35mm the difference is hard to spot, but the 60mm clearly shows this.

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boodo
By boodo (Sep 19, 2012)

Well, I see and feel the huge difference with 35mm. In bright light and in the dark. AF and MF are not lightning fast, but obviously so much better that this is a step over the critical threshold for me. Well done.

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SheikYerbouti
By SheikYerbouti (Sep 19, 2012)

Excellent! Ah, how I wish the X-Pro1 had the size and the looks of the X100 or, better still, a future X100 Mark II had the IQ, the functionality, the responsiveness and the handling of the X-Pro1. I know, I know ... usually I am not among those who always want more. But in this specific case I make an exception. :-)

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Tony Bonanno
By Tony Bonanno (Sep 19, 2012)

Hi Sheik,
Keep your eye on the new X-E1. For my needs it has addressed most of the shortcomings I found with the X100. I've sold my X100 and have ordered the X-E1. Admittedly, the X100 still has the "look" :-).

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SheikYerbouti
By SheikYerbouti (Sep 19, 2012)

Thanks for your reply, Tony. Since its introduction a few days ago I have been reading everything I could find about the X-E1 and I'm very impressed with its specs. Although it is lacking the highly desirable hybrid viewfinder and doesn't have quite the good looks of the X100, it seems to tick all the right boxes regarding IQ, handling, durability etc. and unlike the X-Pro1 it is in a price range that I can still afford. If the X-E1 passes the reviews without any major hick-ups I am seriously considering to buy it towards the end of the year ... maybe as a Christmas present to myself.

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Absolutic
By Absolutic (Sep 19, 2012)

why not make it right from the get go? Fuji had to do firmware upgrade to fix something in every X camera now. Are they rushing products?

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57even
By 57even (Sep 19, 2012)

Well at least they didn't have to make three completely new cameras one after the other like, hmm, Olympus...? I don't recall AF on early PEN cameras being much cop.

Post release firmware happens on all cameras. The difference here is that the work done on a new camera is carried over to the old one. Surely better than having to buy the new camera to get the performance benefit.

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milwman
By milwman (Sep 22, 2012)

Making a new camera system has to be costly and likely Fuji just need to sell cameras and unforeseen the software wasn't 100% Fuji isn't Canon or Nikon size wise and I see the X line as a risky endeavor at concept. I don't think they planed it this way, Who would? needing coffee!

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le_alain
By le_alain (Sep 19, 2012)

option to set exposure compensation to influence image brightness when using Auto ISO in manual mode.
too !

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MrRac
By MrRac (Sep 19, 2012)

Much of this improvements could be implement into X10. Both manua/autol focus and card writing speed surely share similar or same technology. After the blooming problem Fujifilm should think more in their customers and improve their machines, updating the firmwares is and easy way to do it.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 19, 2012)

I hope there will be a 3.0 that will improve AF, writing, play back and add minimum shutter speed.

Might have to wait till X-Pro2 announcement to get it though.

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RStyga
By RStyga (Sep 19, 2012)

Is this 2012 AF speed fro a 'pro' branded camera??? The first DP Sigmas were that bad... what on earth!

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (Sep 19, 2012)

Reading comprehension: "These are the conditions under which the camera struggled most with FW 1.x, and should therefore show the most-obvious improvement. Note that under most conditions the camera will focus much faster than this."

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 19, 2012)

You have to compare with 90mm eqv f/2.4 macro from other system under similar condition to find out.

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sadwitch
By sadwitch (Sep 19, 2012)

The improvement is there indeed. Moreover macro lenses are generally not known for lightning speed AF lenses.

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Hentaiboy
By Hentaiboy (Sep 20, 2012)

Now how about a firmware update for our X100s?

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Phdbel
By Phdbel (Oct 3, 2012)

First, I don't have a X-pro1 YET, but I am seriously considering!
One thing that is still holding me back is a doubt about the shutter.
Let me explain: when I tried the camera at my dealer, I noticed that the sensor was 'naked' when changing lenses! So, if I am not mistaking, the shutters stays open all the way and just does its work when shooting, correct me when wrong...
I am a little reluctant to the fact that the sensor is unprotected when changing lenses 'in the heat of the fight'. What about dust, splashes or grid coming in then, after all, in the first place, this isn't really a studio camera, but a true one for the road...

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