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Leica announces the M-E, a stripped-down 18MP full-frame rangefinder

By dpreview staff on Sep 17, 2012 at 19:00 GMT

Photokina 2012: Leica has announced a more affordable rangefinder: the Leica M-E. Built around the familiar full-frame 18MP CCD, the company describes the M-E as being a stripped-back camera, offering just the basics required for photography. Its core specifications are essentially the same as the M9's, including an ISO range of 160-2500, 0.68x magnification viewfinder, and the same 230k dot 2.5" screen. It'll be available from Leica dealers later this month with a retail price of $5,450 in the US and £3900 in the UK.

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Press Release:

NEW: THE LEICA M-E

Solms, Germany (September 17, 2012) - Leica Camera presents a new model in the Leica rangefinder system, the Leica M-E.  Possessing the high level of technology perfected in the nearly six decades since the M-System’s introduction, the Leica M-E represents the essence of rangefinder photography.  Rather than offering all that is technically possible, it is limited to only those functions that create a better image. These essentials include the M-System’s typical rapid manual focusing with the viewfinder/rangefinder and the focusing ring of the lens, as well as the option of selecting automatically determined or manually set shutter speeds. It is the ideal entry-level model for photographers wishing to experience the fascination of M-Photography or require a secondary camera that performs at an optimum level without fail.

Advantages of rangefinder photography include the ability for photographers to become a part of the action and frame whatever they wish to capture in the viewfinder, while still perceiving what is going on outside the viewfinder frame. The crucial moment becomes predictable, and can thus be captured at precisely the right instant. Featuring the proven, high-resolution, 18 MP CCD sensor in full 35 mm format, the Leica M-E offers maximum imaging quality. Perfectly attuned to its role in the extremely compact M-System and the superior performance of M-Lenses, this particular sensor type possesses a high sensitivity to light. These characteristics lead to an unmistakably individual kind of photography.

The Leica M-E’s most distinctive feature is a minimalistic, purist, design statement. The top deck and base plate are discreetly finished in unobtrusive anthracite grey. The application of a new leather trim with enhanced grip characteristics ideally complements the camera’s timeless design.

The Leica M-System portfolio provides perfect tools for capturing a moment discretely, silently and without hesitation, allowing photographers to become a part of the scene. Together with the new Leica M and the Leica M Monochrom, the world’s first digital black and white camera in 35 mm format, the latest digital generation of the Leica M now offers three rangefinder cameras.

Additionally, the Leica M-E package includes the latest version of Leica Adobe Photoshop Lightroom to assist photographers with viewing, editing and managing digital images. The Leica M-E is available now from Leica dealers, including the Leica Store Washington DC.

About the Leica M-System
Since 1954, the Leica M system has stood for an unmistakable, individual kind of photography and a very conscious photographic style. Because, with a Leica M, the photographer becomes a part of the action in the process of capturing challenging and creative images. The rangefinder frames precisely the shot the photographer envisages while allowing a clear view of what is going on outside the viewfinder frame. This allows the photographer to predict the decisive moment and capture it discreetly and reliably at the right moment – in all fields, from photojournalism and ‘available light’ exposures to discreet and aesthetic fine-art images. The functions of the Leica M rangefinder camera are consistently constructed for extreme robustness and a long working life. Highest quality materials, elaborate manufacturing processes and painstaking manual assembly guarantee functional reliability for decades to come. Full backward system compatibility – almost all lenses of the Leica M range built since 1954 can still be used on the latest M camera models – is an important factor in the enduring value of the M series.

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Total comments: 231
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sharkfeeder
By sharkfeeder (Sep 18, 2012)

Yet another extended middle finger from the status symbol company that doesn't really need your business.

4 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 18, 2012)

If you have to ask the price and what it does, you cannot afford it and is not for you, anyhow.

6 upvotes
Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Sep 18, 2012)

Heheh, what a ubercamera

"If you have to ask the price and what it does, you cannot afford it and is not for you, anyhow."

Why not to double the price and the customers will become twice as good photographers. Sad to say but this leica is a very very poor ubercamera ment to be sold to stupid ubermensch.

2 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 18, 2012)

"leica is a very very poor ubercamera ment to be sold to stupid ubermensch."

Joe, you must have meant "untermensch," nicht wahr? :-)

2 upvotes
Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Sep 18, 2012)

No, only the ubermensch can be stupid enough to be lured to buy something like this.

1 upvote
Xiaomao
By Xiaomao (Sep 18, 2012)

Why "M-E"? Can anyone tell what the "E" stands for? For " Economical", "Easy", or something else?

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
1 upvote
ppastoris
By ppastoris (Sep 18, 2012)

Likely "essence".

1 upvote
Glen Barrington
By Glen Barrington (Sep 18, 2012)

Taking a cue from Adobe - it stands for 'Elements'

0 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 19, 2012)

"Can anyone tell what the "E" stands for? For " Economical", "Easy", or something else?"

I would venture to guess "E-diot."

0 upvotes
MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Sep 20, 2012)

Perfect answer, Glen. Empty, excessive, effluent. Some lovely photos will be taken with it, but that doesn't excuse Leica for charging so much for so little.

0 upvotes
SirAntonio
By SirAntonio (Sep 18, 2012)

Dear wingers!
The claim "Leica has announced a more affordable rangefinder" was written by the dpreview editor, not Leica (try and find that claim in the press release)
but that's beside the point, the point is that it is indeed about $1,500 cheaper than the other camera they announced today, so it is indeed more affordable than that.
You all seem to be mistaking the "more affordable" with "I can afford it"

5 upvotes
Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Sep 18, 2012)

I can afford it but I won't. Because of no endangered animal's skin.

3 upvotes
pfzt
By pfzt (Sep 18, 2012)

"…You all seem to be mistaking the "more affordable" with "I can afford it"

A common mistake ;)

2 upvotes
Carl Silverman
By Carl Silverman (Oct 4, 2012)

Leica has always made any photographers work better. Leica has always been expensive. Leica has always been the benchmark. Leica was probably the first professional 35mm camera of choice. Leica is good, yes?

0 upvotes
Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Sep 18, 2012)

"and the same 230k dot 2.5" screen"

Maybe they could drop that screen off too, to give you the Real leica Experience, use some endangered animal's skin on the body though, with matching strap.

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 10 minutes after posting
6 upvotes
noirdude
By noirdude (Sep 18, 2012)

yeah right.. $5450 and you call it affordable..

"in all fields, from photojournalism and ‘available light’ exposures to discreet and aesthetic fine-art images."

fine art? what fine art? .. I own an M8, bought it used in favor to help a friend who needed cash.. the thing is, I made art photos mostly using my nikon D700/D3s, but not leica.. it's too damn slow.. even for street photo.. photography is about moment, you can't cheat moment, even my old nikon fm10 is much faster and better than M8..

leica lens? there are other much better lens that won't rip your money..

go make your own photokina, leica!

4 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 18, 2012)

"go make your own photokina, leica!"

PRICELESS!!!!

They probably will do just that, too. The genie is out of the bottle, phew....

1 upvote
JackM
By JackM (Sep 18, 2012)

I thought they were working on a less expensive mirrorless to compete with the NEX, et al? Or is this it?

0 upvotes
Toccata47
By Toccata47 (Sep 18, 2012)

What a crock of Sh1t

3 upvotes
SeeRoy
By SeeRoy (Sep 18, 2012)

How come we can use "Sh1t" in this location but not in the forums. Is it a Leica thing?
And yes, that's a fair statement I'd say...

1 upvote
babamaru
By babamaru (Sep 18, 2012)

>> Leica has announced a more affordable rangefinder
Finally, thats awesome.

>> the company describes the M-E as being a stripped-back camera
Ok, thats fine, go on

>> with a retail price of $5,450
F**k you too Leica, keep enjoying your insignificance.

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 2 minutes after posting
14 upvotes
Chris_in_Osaka
By Chris_in_Osaka (Sep 18, 2012)

Awesome, now I can buy two!!

3 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (Sep 18, 2012)

last struggle before bankruptcy?

4 upvotes
jedinstvo
By jedinstvo (Sep 18, 2012)

Leica is solvent. They make sophisticated optical and computer products for specialty markets, including NATO. The reason they continue to make cameras is largely sentimental....they invented 35mm photography. A great analogy is Campagnolo. 25 years ago Campagnolo wanted to get out of the bicycle parts business and there was a howl of protest from all corners of the earth. The son of the founder said "We're making parts for the space shuttle. We don't have time for the bike business anymore!" They continued to make bike parts and once again are at the top. Likewise, Leica will continue to make consumer cameras, even though they've got optical computers taking pictures on Mars.

4 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (Sep 18, 2012)

Great reply jedinstvo. Nailed it.

0 upvotes
kewlguy
By kewlguy (Sep 17, 2012)

It's basically an M9, but funnily enough, just put on a 'cheap' 28 Elmarit, and no DSLR system in the market could even match the image quality at low ISO. Sure the price is still too high but it has a good sensor.

0 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (Sep 18, 2012)

Have anything to back up the claim, besides pure faith?

3 upvotes
FTW
By FTW (Sep 17, 2012)

More affordable, hahahahahaaaa, never had such fun in my life. The nw M10 is a FF Next at 20 times it's price. How long will Leica continue to take the whole world for suckers.

6 upvotes
vladimir byazrov
By vladimir byazrov (Sep 17, 2012)

I wonder what people who buy digital Leicas and w.c. pans covered with gold have in their minds?

0 upvotes
Damo83
By Damo83 (Sep 17, 2012)

Ok, good, now can we get a fully stripped down version? I'm talking like butt naked, bare bones, no $1000 red dot, basic finish, forget bundling with Lightroom, scrap the movie mode. There's gotta be some other stuff you can remove from the body, Leica... :)

0 upvotes
Retzius
By Retzius (Sep 17, 2012)

IBM should re-release the old 386 chip computer with CRT monitor and 20meg hard drive and 3.5 inch floppy.

They can say they stripped away all that pesky technology to offer a "real computing experience" and charge the wealthy $5000 for it.

This is the Leica way.

18 upvotes
Nishi Drew
By Nishi Drew (Sep 18, 2012)

Especially when the design hasn't changed at all with the rangefinder, which, I like the look, but it's no different then so many others in their own lineup.

If one wants a stripped down no-frills and fantastic experience, that's exactly what film is around for.

1 upvote
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Sep 17, 2012)

"A more affordable rangefinder..."

$5,450

Wow. The poverty line just sank a few more feet...

.

6 upvotes
alexst4
By alexst4 (Sep 17, 2012)

Leica should just stop making bodies and concentrate whatever left of their R&D on producing their lenses in various mounts.... It will surely be more profitable and more interesting to many more people than these "style icon" bodies....

8 upvotes
Boris
By Boris (Sep 17, 2012)

230k dot 2.5" screen is pretty minimalistic and will help you get that Leica 3d look.

4 upvotes
taotoo
By taotoo (Sep 17, 2012)

Well it fits in well with the whole 'retro' thing...

3 upvotes
Anadrol
By Anadrol (Sep 17, 2012)

A clever way of getting rid of their stock of antic Kodak sensors !

8 upvotes
intruder61
By intruder61 (Sep 17, 2012)

this ME comes in at 5450, it does the same thing as the M9.....so much for those who want to sell their M9's used for a decent price.

0 upvotes
Sam Carriere
By Sam Carriere (Sep 17, 2012)

Not only is there a sucker born every minute, but it seems many of them are born in piles of money.

8 upvotes
taotoo
By taotoo (Sep 17, 2012)

And for those that aren't, there's always the rebadged panasonics...

5 upvotes
nawknai
By nawknai (Sep 17, 2012)

The M9-P looks better due to the lack of the red dot! I'd rather have that instead of this.

If they wanted to sell a barebones Leica, which is already bare-bones, why not just sell the new M (M10) without video, and sell it for $1000 less?? Make it $6000, and make the M cost $7000. If someone wants Live View and video recording so badly, they get to pay for it.

0 upvotes
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Sep 17, 2012)

re the red dot:

It's a sticker. You can just peel it off. Or paint over it.

0 upvotes
Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Sep 18, 2012)

Why don't they charge two times more for this, this way they are loosing their customers.

0 upvotes
Pik2004
By Pik2004 (Sep 17, 2012)

Leica, it looks so classic! love the way it looks. I guess that what we are paying for.

1 upvote
Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Sep 17, 2012)

I have to admit....I'm actually surprised the new M is 'only' $7000. It's very unlike Leica to drop prices and the M9 sold for $8k not that long ago. With that said, the M-E should be cheaper than $5500....it's nothing but old technology from the M9 re-badged and sold as new. Leica would have sold a tonne of these ME's at $4000.

3 upvotes
spidermoon
By spidermoon (Sep 17, 2012)

To sell tons of something, you must produce tons of that thing, but Leica are not made on overseas cheap human cost factory, they are almost man made. It's like Rolls-Royce for car againts other brand.

1 upvote
taotoo
By taotoo (Sep 17, 2012)

So tell us how a Leica needs to be handmade whereas a Canikon doesn't. The tolerances are the same....

1 upvote
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Sep 17, 2012)

"almost man made"

LOL!

3 upvotes
FTW
By FTW (Sep 17, 2012)

You get the same 24 mpix chip in D600, A99 and RX1. And, at a more decent price and better shooting comfort. Leica sucks.

3 upvotes
wchutt
By wchutt (Sep 18, 2012)

This is not SONY chip.

0 upvotes
Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Sep 18, 2012)

"they are almost man made"

So no brains were used?

1 upvote
Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Sep 24, 2012)

Spidermoon...Leica would not even need to sell 'a tonne' of ME's to make money at $4k....trust me, there is a BIG profit margin even for the ME at $4k. At $5500 they are milking it.
Your 'hand made' camera uses a 3 year old sensor and an LCD screen that is worse than what I find in my 2 year old's Fisher Price camera.

0 upvotes
Nikonparrothead
By Nikonparrothead (Sep 17, 2012)

They lowered the price to roughly what the last M8 (prior to the M8.2) cost. When one considers the low volume, this is indeed a great price. Given what the typical Leica shooter wants this will sell exceptionally well. Those who can't grasp that, it's not the camera you're looking for. Plenty of others out there.

1 upvote
samhain
By samhain (Sep 17, 2012)

55 comments- none are Leica owners.
Gotta love DPR front page.

1 upvote
onlooker
By onlooker (Sep 17, 2012)

Just to be devil's advocate for a moment - could it be because Leica is not aiming this camera at the existing M9 owners?

3 upvotes
sensibill
By sensibill (Sep 17, 2012)

Gotta love the one over-entitled fop implying non-Leica owners shouldn't be commenting.

9 upvotes
FTW
By FTW (Sep 17, 2012)

You don't need to be a Christian or muslim to reveal the truth and the scam about religion. We have all eyes and can see what we get and Leica is about the same crap that all others sell, for just 5 times the price. So, if you want to be a sucker and buy it, it's up to you. We are as free to express our opinion as much as you are to criticize it and buy this overpriced toys.

Comment edited 57 seconds after posting
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ptox
By ptox (Sep 17, 2012)

What a cynical move by a company supposedly embodying the romance of photography: eight-year-old specifications and fewer features, all to justify some marketing blah blah about "essence" and "purity", for sale at the same eye-watering price...

5 upvotes
Photomonkey
By Photomonkey (Sep 17, 2012)

Not long ago every camera introduced used 150 year old technology....film.

0 upvotes
ptox
By ptox (Sep 18, 2012)

Hoho, photomonkey! Brilliant riposte... except that we're still in the early days of sensor quality improvements; eight years is like the difference between Kodakchrome and a daguerreotype.

Comment edited 23 seconds after posting
2 upvotes
TitusXIII
By TitusXIII (Sep 18, 2012)

Not long ago every camera introduced used 150 year old technology... lens!

0 upvotes
Esoz
By Esoz (Sep 17, 2012)

Wow, they lowered the price! I'll finally be able to affor... oh, never mind.

3 upvotes
rjx
By rjx (Sep 17, 2012)

So Canon announced the 6d, as an entry level FF DSLR. All they had to do was continue with the 5D2 at a lower price.

And now Leica announces the M-E, when all they had to do was continue with the M9 at a lower price.

I'd rather have a used 5D2 (price vs quality ratio) than the 6D or 5D3. And I'd rather have a used M9 than the new M-E or "M." The M9 is selling in the low $4k's on EBAY. And now they should dip somewhere in the low to mid $3k's in the near future. :)

Can you imagine the used M9 + new Voigtlander Nokton Aspherical 35mm f/1.2 II for a total of around $4600!!

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
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Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Sep 17, 2012)

Yup...can't wait to take advantage of the used M9 market.

0 upvotes
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Sep 17, 2012)

What is the advantage of the M9 over the ME. You can't really say "cheaper" since used vs. new is never a fair point of comparison...

0 upvotes
vladimir byazrov
By vladimir byazrov (Sep 17, 2012)

for 4600 you can have nikon d800 with great lens. wake up!

1 upvote
rjx
By rjx (Sep 18, 2012)

vladimir byazrov

I completely agree with you. But I don't want to use a D800 or 5D on the street when i'm trying to be as discrete as possible.

If I ever get an M9, it's primarily for up close and personal candid street photography with a wide lens, and for travel, etc. I'd use the D800 for nature, portraits and macro.

2 upvotes
SeeRoy
By SeeRoy (Sep 18, 2012)

"...on the street when i'm trying to be as discrete as possible....
If I ever get an M9, it's primarily for up close and personal candid street photography...
Let's see if I have grasped that? DiscrEET and close up and personal and candid street photography. An interesting approach. It seems that even aspiring Leica users have distinctive needs - it's hard to see any other camera meeting these exacting requirements .

0 upvotes
JackM
By JackM (Sep 17, 2012)

I don't get it, why don't they just keep selling the M9, but at a discount?

2 upvotes
Antonio Rojilla
By Antonio Rojilla (Sep 17, 2012)

Because now collectors have another model to, well, collect.

1 upvote
Imagefoundry
By Imagefoundry (Sep 17, 2012)

because you don't discount premium brands.

2 upvotes
Vlad Didenko
By Vlad Didenko (Sep 18, 2012)

Not necessarily so. Apple routinely sells it's previous generation iPhone inventory at a cheaper price point. Makes many people happy.

1 upvote
Retzius
By Retzius (Sep 17, 2012)

Only in Leica land is releasing a camera without commonly available features "revolutionary". When I used my D200 in manual mode and "strip away features that don't contribute to the photographic experience blah blah" am I a revolutionary too?

5 upvotes
samhain
By samhain (Sep 17, 2012)

So your point is.... Just to take a cheap shot at Leica & Leica owners? Valuable contribution

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sensibill
By sensibill (Sep 17, 2012)

More like 'too easy'.

1 upvote
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Sep 17, 2012)

Don't make stuff up. Nowhere in the press release is the word "revolutionary" used or even hinted at.

1 upvote
shaocaholica
By shaocaholica (Sep 17, 2012)

Its that still the crappy LCD I see in those images? Seriously Leica, its 2012 and you can get a better LCD on throw away cameras.

10 upvotes
Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Sep 17, 2012)

Totally agree....it's one thing to use the old Kodak sensor but they could have at least stuck in a revamped LCD...wouldn't have cost them much.

4 upvotes
Fotog C
By Fotog C (Sep 17, 2012)

Wow... a revived M9. A tactic that Apple used???? Keeping an 'old' model in 'new' color and call it a new camera. The M-E is basically a M9 in spec. Same sensor, same resolution, same features. But I like it. Now I can have a weird colour Leica new for a used M9 camera.

The new M is rather interesting but do Leica user really use Liveview and movie model anyway? I don't. I just shoot. So the M-E makes more sense and more true to traditional M users. A photographic tool. Though I would like to see how well the new CMOS sensor performs.

1 upvote
Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Sep 17, 2012)

What's with you people complaining about video and live view...the camera is the same size, so who cares if they added video and live view. No one forces you to use those features.....keep it in full manual if that's what you want.

7 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 17, 2012)

Nothing forces you to use LV or EVF. "M" is still regular rangefinder. And being able to easy refocus during taking video.. that might be actually very interesting feature. :) I wouldnt be suprised if "M" would be very successful in video world.

M-E is nice and frankly it makes me happier too. Cause M9 price will go down. :D

1 upvote
Jonne Ollakka
By Jonne Ollakka (Sep 17, 2012)

The live view is needed for R-lens compatibility. So while they're implementing that, they might as well throw in movie capture. You don't have to use it, just like I don't use 99% of the custom settings on my EOS 5Ds.

1 upvote
Ulfric M Douglas
By Ulfric M Douglas (Sep 17, 2012)

So ... 'compactish' full-frame just got two more choices. Interesting.
If I put my £15 FSU lens on this the price will be £3915, versus the new sony's £2800-ish?
I might have got the numbers wrong.
Are recent M-9 owners going to be happy or cross?

0 upvotes
PeakAction
By PeakAction (Sep 17, 2012)

Whoa... Did Leica just do something that makes sense?!

5 upvotes
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Sep 17, 2012)

I think so. Bifurcated the M line: CMOS for those who like that stuff. CCD for the traditionalists. Re-badged the M9 so they can keep the selling price a little higher. Dropped the model numbering system to be more like Apple.

1 upvote
Jan Kritzinger
By Jan Kritzinger (Sep 17, 2012)

Can't wait for FF Nex + M mount adapter.

10 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 17, 2012)

I can imagine theres A LOT of ppl like that.. me included. Its not M mount adapter, but virtualy any adapter to any FF lens. Unlimited lens possibilities without crop factor.

Well, will happen one year.. just most likely not this one. :( Sony is evil..

0 upvotes
Auke B van der Weide
By Auke B van der Weide (Sep 17, 2012)

"Highest quality materials, elaborate manufacturing processes and painstaking manual assembly guarantee functional reliability for decades to come."

If you believe this is true, and it outlasts every nikon/canon/sony/pentax/olympus/panasonic/samsung than a Leica isnt that expensive.

0 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 17, 2012)

Unfortunately for example that EVF is made by Ricoh. :D

I dont doubt Leica quality testing, but I doubt it will last much longer than any other brand. And frankly, even old 1Ds still works today.. so no biggie. Leica real strength is being still only digital FF rangefinder/mirrorless and their amazing lens.

1 upvote
DStudio
By DStudio (Sep 17, 2012)

Digital cameras are designed for obsolescence. Film cameras got an upgrade every time a new film came out.

So, other than the possibility that a CCD sensor will be desirable 10 years from now, the longevity is meaningless.

0 upvotes
Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Sep 17, 2012)

They outlast most every other camera because Leicas spend most of their time sitting in presentation boxes!

(cheap shot, but I couldn't resist...)

Digital cameras are obsolete in 4-5 years. No one is going to want to use an M8 in 2060, no matter how well its made.

0 upvotes
doctorbza
By doctorbza (Sep 17, 2012)

did this company actually just re-release a stripped version of a three year old camera for $5,500?

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Sep 17, 2012)

actually i think it could also raise prices, because the m9 is the last of the classica leicas with numbers next to the m

so that could make he m9 a collectors item instantly, which lets it disapear from the used market over time

if thats their plan its clever hehe

but i guess ey just had a lot of m9 parts in stock

3 upvotes
yslee1
By yslee1 (Sep 17, 2012)

Yes, yes they did. And watch the Leicanuts snap them up. Don't bother being rational with these people, because they're not.

1 upvote
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Sep 17, 2012)

ok, so from now on leica bodies drop inprice like every other company, five years from now i will buy a used m9p, see us there :)

0 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 17, 2012)

Sooner, hopefully. :D Im waiting too.

1 upvote
Retzius
By Retzius (Sep 17, 2012)

Sadly, on the Leica forums, the most passionate discussions will be whether one should purchase it in black or silver...

1 upvote
brudy
By brudy (Sep 17, 2012)

That's a really arrogant statement. Unlike most of the fora on dpreview, they usually talk and show about images, rather than pixel peep and other technical stuff. They are very friendly there, and helpful. I don't own a Leica, but it's a great forum.

7 upvotes
Jim Radcliffe
By Jim Radcliffe (Sep 17, 2012)

I have to agree.. the Leica forum is not your usual bed of pixel-peepers and GearHeads but more about photography. it's one of the reasons I enjoy the Leica forum.

9 upvotes
EssexAsh
By EssexAsh (Sep 17, 2012)

Leica owners might well have more money than sense, but the forum here is an oasis of camera enjoyment. Full of people actually, dare i say it, using their cameras!!! 5 minutes in the nikon or canon forums and you come out feeling like you need a wash.

5 upvotes
joseluismx
By joseluismx (Sep 17, 2012)

Projecting much?

1 upvote
rjx
By rjx (Sep 17, 2012)

Nice. This camera should make the used price of the M9 drop even further.

2 upvotes
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Sep 17, 2012)

YES!!! its so awsome :)

Comment edited 36 seconds after posting
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DRabbit
By DRabbit (Sep 17, 2012)

No ACTUAL rangefinder is the "M" camera?? (that's how I read it)...
$5500 for a cheap version of M9??
$7000 for M?
Am I understanding that correctly?

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Sep 17, 2012)

yes

1 upvote
DRabbit
By DRabbit (Sep 17, 2012)

prices are right but the M does have a rangefinder... it's buried in the spec sheet PDF... the press release was just a bit confusing (at least to me).

1 upvote
TitusXIII
By TitusXIII (Sep 18, 2012)

You could clearly see the RF VF in the pics.
Which begs the question: what's with the add-on EVF?

0 upvotes
micahmedia
By micahmedia (Sep 17, 2012)

*yawn*

If Leica were serious about their stated design goals, this would be an RD-1 with a full frame sensor. I'd pay 5 grand for that in a heartbeat. This is just another M9.

0 upvotes
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Sep 17, 2012)

no, this is THE m9, the rd1 is just a bessa lookalike, which by itself is a leica lookalike :)

2 upvotes
micahmedia
By micahmedia (Sep 18, 2012)

...and I still prefer it to this mess. If it were truly a manual camera, the shutter would be manually cocked. And I'm only being half sarcastic.

0 upvotes
Bob Meyer
By Bob Meyer (Sep 17, 2012)

Not stripped down enough for my budget, I'm afraid.

6 upvotes
emutier
By emutier (Sep 17, 2012)

4800€ leica is just to elite

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0 upvotes
jasonleamancom
By jasonleamancom (Sep 17, 2012)

This press release scans like a hard sell on the technology. "what Leica can do today" kind of thing.
They've got the glass, but as far as a technology feature set goes, they're out spec'd by almost all of the full frame releases this week. I'm not saying these are better or worse cameras, but a little surprised that Leica are pushing the modern tech angle.
As always, Leica are for the photographer with a particular mindset, and heavy wallet, so I guess my point is moot. So long as there's a red badge, and a history of astonishing lenses (in the right hands), they can write pretty much what they like in the PR. It's gonna sell.

0 upvotes
Deleted-pending
By Deleted-pending (Sep 17, 2012)

If only their was an AF camera that would integrate such a wonderful 18MP FF CCD sensor...

0 upvotes
Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Sep 18, 2012)

RX1 and all FF DSLR have AF and better sensor.

0 upvotes
Jim Radcliffe
By Jim Radcliffe (Sep 17, 2012)

"The company describes the M-E as being a stripped-back camera, offering just the basics required for photography."

I thought that was how they described the M9. I guess this is as close as you are going to get to a Digital CL. I'm sure they will sell plenty of them.

3 upvotes
Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Sep 18, 2012)

Next time just a pinhole mount but the same body and the same 'almost hand made' luxury screen. Offering just the basics required for photography.

1 upvote
uuronl
By uuronl (Sep 17, 2012)

I just got off the phone with the Leica store in DC. US prices:

M-E $5450
M $6950

0 upvotes
micahmedia
By micahmedia (Sep 17, 2012)

n/m

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0 upvotes
rjx
By rjx (Sep 17, 2012)

IMO there should be a much bigger gap in price. I'd like to see the M-E at around $3999. The M-E is just a repackaged, dumbed-down M9. And used M9 prices are as low as $4000ish, and now those prices will drop further.

2 upvotes
F-onefour
By F-onefour (Sep 17, 2012)

WTF?! THIS IS JUST A REBRANDED M9!!!

6 upvotes
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