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Carl Zeiss presents CZ.2 28-80mm T2.9 cinema zoom lens

By dpreview staff on Aug 30, 2012 at 09:47 GMT

Carl Zeiss is displaying a 28-80mm T2.9 cinema zoom lens at the IBC trade show in Amsterdam, that will complement the 70-200mm T2.9 optic it announced earlier this year. Designed for use on 35mm full-frame format video-capable SLRs, as well as HD video cameras and professional cine cameras, the Compact Zoom CZ.2 28-80/T2.9 will be available in Canon EF, Nikon F, Micro Four Thirds, Sony E and Arri PL mounts. It offers manual focus and aperture setting, a circular iris, an interchangeable lens mount, and T* coating, and the company claims it shows no focus shift over the entire zoom range. It will be available in the second quarter of 2013 for €14,900 or US$19,900 (excluding VAT).

Carl Zeiss presents new Compact Zoom CZ.2 lens at IBC 2012 in Amsterdam

 Maximum creative flexibility for cinematographers in focal length range 28-80mm

OBERKOCHEN/Germany, 30.08.2012. - Carl Zeiss will display the new cine zoom lens Compact Zoom CZ.2 28-80/T2.9 at the IBC in Amsterdam, the leading international trade show for film, radio and television, from  September 7 to 11, 2012 in hall 11 booth G64. The new Compact Zoom CZ.2 28-80/T2.9 by Carl Zeiss is a cine zoom lens ideally suited to a wide variety of shooting situations. It is easy to handle, compact and versatile. It takes pictures in 4K resolution — in full format. This is the second Compact Zoom CZ.2 lens from Carl Zeiss, complementing the Compact Zoom CZ.2 70-200/T2.9 presented in April at the NAB Show 2012 in Las Vegas for the longer focal length range. For color rendition, contrast and other parameters such as great flare suppression, calibrated focus scales, consistent aperture over the zoom range, round iris the new CZ.2 family is closely aligned to one another, making these lenses ideal for attaining a consistent optical performance when changing lenses.

With a length of 196 millimeters and weighing in at 2.5 kg (5.5lbs), the Compact Zoom CZ.2 28-80/T2.9 is sleek and lean. Thanks to the five different mounts (PL, EF, F, MFT and E), this new zoom lens from Carl Zeiss can be easily adapted to numerous camera systems both now and in the future, as well as on HDSLR cameras, HD video cameras and professional cine cameras.

“Thanks to the interchangeable mount and the 36 x 24mm image-circle illumination, the new Com- pact Zoom CZ.2 28-80/T2.9 is highly versatile and a future proof investment,” says Michael Schiehlen, Director of Sales of the Camera Lens Division of Carl Zeiss AG. “With focal lengths from 28 to 80mm and outstanding image performance, it offers professionals as well as ambitious cinematographers a lot of room to explore their creativity in many types of shooting situations. The Com- pact Zoom CZ.2 70-200/T2.9 has already proven that there is no comparable zoom family on the market with full frame coverage and interchangeable mount.”

With its slim build, the Compact Zoom family follows the current market trend towards smaller and lighter lenses that are perfect for handheld cameras, Steadicam systems, or for shooting in tight spaces. The Compact Zoom CZ.2 is especially comfortable to use thanks to its ergonomically designed and partly rubber-coated surface, which allows both precise manual focusing as well as mechanical focusing via follow-focus systems. The Carl Zeiss T* anti-reflective coating ensures maximum contrast and color rendition by minimizing stray light and ghosting within the lens. The Compact Zoom CZ.2 lenses delivers flare-free results and has no focus shift over the whole zoom range.

During the IBC, Carl Zeiss will display in a huge glass case all of its camera lenses that are currently available on the market — lenses that guarantee images of the highest quality, whether used on Hollywood movie cameras, HDSLR or HD video cameras.

The Compact Zoom CZ.2 28-80/T2.9 will be delivered in the second quarter of 2013. The recommended retail price is €14,900 or US$19,900 (excluding VAT)*.

*Status: August 30, 2012

Comments

Total comments: 93
Binba
By Binba (Sep 10, 2012)

There are two things that make technology cheap: software and quantity. Unfortunately, those two things are absent from cine lenses.

When you write a program, your costs of making one, a thousand, or a million copies are virtually the same (and virtually zero). This is just not the case with hardware. Cine lenses are basically all manual, and there's just no replacement for fabricating extremely high quality mechanics and optics, with an all-metal constructions that's a couple steps above the best still lenses.

If it was easy to make a lens like this for $5K, someone would've gotten up and do it. Tokina can't, Nikon passed, and Canon opted for the same price level.

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Binba
By Binba (Sep 10, 2012)

A 28-80mm f2.8 (T2.9) is considered a 'classic' cine zoom lens, and there have been dramatic price cuts over the past 2 years. Just a few years back, the cheapest option for the above was the Angenieux Optimo, for $65K. You could settle for the newer DP Rouge 30-80mm for a mere $42K, then just last year Fujinon announced their 29-90mm for $38K. This is why the $20K price point for this Zeiss is news. You can't compare it with a Canon L because you can't do with an L what you do with those lenses.

BTW, the CZ name isn't for Carl Zeiss - it's for Compact Zoom. It compliments Zeiss' CP (Compact Prime) line of entry-level cine lenses.

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Binba
By Binba (Sep 10, 2012)

My company was looking to acquire our own cinematography package, and after months of research (and 10 years in the film/TV business) I recommended a $12,000 cinevised Zeiss prime set and a $700 Panasonic GH2. We're happy with the purchase and the value it brought us, and that includes my boss.

It is rather pointless of DPR to post these. These lenses are strictly for cine use, and a complete waste of money for stills (get a Canon L). Motion picture has a completely different set of needs by virtue of taking 24 (or more) exposures per second and projecting them successively. Manual focus, aperture pulls, focus tracking, breathing, internal focusing, consistent aperture... all those things are rather pointless in stills and critical in movies.

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desirblanc
By desirblanc (Sep 3, 2012)

Similiar lenses from Panavision, Angenieux, Arri or Fujinon are closer to $30,000+. The Zeiss is a bargain basement value in that industry.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 3, 2012)

Good observation on your part, desirblanc.

Since you say that an Arri lens is priced at $30,000+, an Arri lens priced at $19,900 is "bargain basement value" indeed. Wow, now that you put it that way....

BTW, which "industry" is "that industry" that you are talking of?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 31, 2012)

US$19,900 just for the lens, huh? Bitchin'....

Just found this digital camera WITH a Carl Zeiss lens for US$129.99.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/webcams/3480

I guess CZ products are all over the map when it comes to pricing.

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slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (Sep 1, 2012)

Are you just trying to look ridiculous or are you trolling? This is a high-end cine lens, not your grandmas webcam. Film producres do not even buy these lenses, but just rent them. These lenses must perform PERFECTLY at each setting and of course wide open. Mechanics must be perfect too - look at the weight. On top of that these lenses are produced in small quantities.

Also, there are CZ designed (like the lenses for Sony cameras and phones) and CZ produced lenses (like the Cine lenses) - that are two different things.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 1, 2012)

@ slncezgsi: You are raising some valid points. Fact is, however, that now you have "Carl Zeiss lenses" starting at around US$100, and going up to probably $65,000 or more. Something does not add up here. This pricing scheme would be akin to Rolls Royce selling their new cars in the $10,000 to $550,000 price range.

Regarding renting these lenses -- well, if you think that they are overpriced for purchase, that is certainly an option. But who is to say that the rental rate will not be overpriced? BTW, our local camera store rents all sorts of lenses, some for as little as $50 a week. But that does not tell me if they are good, particularly for the money demanded.

Also, why should this lens be any more "perfect" or "perform perfectly" than any other lens? Are you maybe buying lenses that only perform "perfectly" 20% of the time?

Finally, it must be pretty darn pathetic indeed to have "CZ produced lenses" and "CZ designed lenses." Which of these types is the rip-off lens, I wonder?

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Piet Maartens
By Piet Maartens (Sep 2, 2012)

@ slncezgsi: Nice try, but he just does not get it…
@ Maloy: Technical quality of a cine lens and artistic quality of a movie (if that’s what you mean) are not related.

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Tape5
By Tape5 (Sep 2, 2012)

If CZ had to do a Curiosity landing it would make a platinum and diamond scaffolding all the way to Mars. These guys are very highly sebaceous middle aged men. The mechanics. The old way, the hard way type of lens makers. At least Leica is sexy. Zeiss should go back to microscopes.

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vinersan
By vinersan (Sep 11, 2012)

you guys do realize that even old film cameras coasted a lot !!!!!

example the sub 1f lens and so on ....

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Gregg Tarayan
By Gregg Tarayan (Aug 31, 2012)

Thank goodness VAT is included!

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Biowizard
By Biowizard (Aug 30, 2012)

What a gorgeous looking piece of glass. Exactly all I need for day-to-day shooting with a D4. Yes, I'd need to win the lottery first, but wow how I'd love this to shoot through!

Brian

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Tape5
By Tape5 (Aug 30, 2012)

Yet another stupid lens from Oberkochen. ( Does that mean over-cooked by any chance?)

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jdrpc
By jdrpc (Aug 31, 2012)

Stupid is the arrogance of stupid people that do NOT know what they are talking about!

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Tape5
By Tape5 (Aug 31, 2012)

Yeh...those arrogant stupid people with their arrogant stupidity that manifests in the form of being arrogant and stupid and as a result end up being doubly stupid because they do NOT know what they are talking about their arrogant stupidity stupid...shhh....stupid ( I am now frothing at the mouth) stupid..arrogant ...

Ha......If I said to you I adore this lens jdrpc, would you promise to calm down? I don't want you to burst an aneurysm.

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photogalleryonline
By photogalleryonline (Aug 30, 2012)

T2.9 is that like F1.4 or f2.8 or f4, does anyone have a chart for comparing T stop to F stop?

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Vlad S
By Vlad S (Aug 30, 2012)

There is no chart. The T-stop depends on the actual glass and coatings used in the lens. It is always bigger than the F-stop, because some light is always absorbed by the glass, but I would be surprised if it were a whole stop bigger, because that would require that the glass absorbs half of the light.

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MichaelEchos
By MichaelEchos (Aug 31, 2012)

Most likely 2.8 in terms of depth of field.

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nachos
By nachos (Sep 1, 2012)

F-stop relates to the maximum aperture, but t-stop relates to the amount of light transmitted by the lens. This is important in filmmaking because the same scene may be filmed with different lenses, and some lenses will absorb or transmit more light, thus those parts of the scene will appear brighter or darker if they were not calibrated in t-stops.

So the idea is two T2.9 lenses will transmit the same amount of light. Due to light absorption, it might naturally be 2.86 or 2.81 etc. It is of course easier to make a lens darker than brighter, so its customary to take a F/2.8 design, and add coatings until it is T2.9.

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Herring
By Herring (Aug 30, 2012)

@ Francis Carver:
Geez you really do not know what you are talking about., do you? Are you just trolling or what? We are talking about a professional lens made for professional cinematographers (not photographers) and professional cameras - with extra mounts (for low cost cameras) as a bonus.

Until now no lens manufacturer has succeeded in making a cinematic zoomlens with this combination of focal range, speed, weight and price.
So yes it's a very interesting lens for professional filmmakers - drama and documentary.
And yes it is futureproof because there's a new HD or 4K (..8K) videocamera coming out every so many months and there's no camera you can buy that is certain to keep it's value for the years to come.
Yet this lens WILL keep it's value.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

Who says this is "professional?" You and CZ?

Besides, no "professional cinematographers" would be using this particular lens, sorry. They need professional cine lenses, and those are in a different grouping entirely.

Now, at the asking price of US$19,900, how many event videographers and wedding videographers do you know who will say that this 28-80/T2.9 is a good deal for them?

Re. the "professional cameras" that these $20K lenses are supposed to be for -- do you also consider the cheap M4/3 and E-mount cameras to be in that group? Or only the Arri Positive Locking PL-mount cameras?

Finally, you can see many of the cine-style pro-grade zoom lenses lined-up here. As you can tell, many of them go up to $100,00 in price, and many of those needing a special quote, eve north of that.

http://resources.abelcine.com/2012/05/15/abelcine-master-cine-zoom-lens-reference-guide/

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ET2
By ET2 (Aug 31, 2012)

oh yes, no one would be "using" the lens. Zeiss people are just stupid who spent a few million dollars developing a lens they they knew no one would ever use. They should have consulted the internet "expert", a troll named Francis, on what lenses should be made.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 31, 2012)

I doubt our diligent friends in the Bundesrepublik von Krautland had spent "a few million dollars" developing this particular lens. Since there are plenty similar lenses out there already with actually better specs. Unless they felt like they just had to reinvent the wheel.

This is probably a $5-6,000 lens priced at triple that amount for various reasons, such as:

1. Up to 8 weeks paid leave for workers in Germany. Hey, somebody else besides CZ has got to pay for that.

2. Free spa holidays for the German workers -- hey, somebody else besides CZ has got to pay for that, too.

3. Typical German corporate profit margins imitating Apple's profit margins. What are those, something in the 30 to 50 percent range?

Pay up, Sukahs!

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georgla
By georgla (Sep 1, 2012)

Currently there are no cinematography-suitable (IQ, focus shift, mechanics...) lenses available in this range (for HDSLRs an future larger sensor cinematography cameras). Weight, size and price are impressive compared to other cine-designs.

Manufacturing optics/mechanics to that level is a job for highly-skilled craftsman and excellent technology, Zeiss has that unlike any other and pays it's workers well. Nothing wrong with that, they're highly productive, partly because of high social standards. By the way, Zeiss profits are not in the range of Apple and they re-invest them into people and technology. Without Zeiss, the next-gen sub-22nm-semiconductors could not be manufactured and excellent quality lenses with T1.3 wouldn't be available to cinematographers.

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RichardBalonglong
By RichardBalonglong (Sep 2, 2012)

@Francis: Are you just that mad on the lens because of its price tag? The target market of these kind of lenses are for those far more highly paid big productions (where they have their own specific needs and wants for their productions), not your average/advanced event and wedding videographers (and if some average/advanced event & wedding videographers buy this lens, well good for them, it's their choice).
Why mad at the company making these expensive lenses? They're not like forcing you to buy it.
With your attitude, maybe you'll get even madder if you get to know the price of a cinema camera like the RED Camera Epic-M. It's like $43k just for the body with mount. Then later you'll compare it against with like a Canon 5Dmk3 or Nikon D800.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 3, 2012)

@ Richard, how do you know what the "target market" of this particular lens is? You insider contact at Arri over there in the Bundeskrautland had told you do?

These cut-rate lenses for megabucks -- not a very good value for the buck, is it now? I doubt they will be able to unload more than a few dozens of these babies, at least here in North America. This looks more like intended for the EU markets -- nothing European made is too expensive for them.

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RichardBalonglong
By RichardBalonglong (Sep 4, 2012)

@Francis: Well, it's obvious. Here, I'll assume you know about the Canon C500 4K camera, and it costs $30K. Who do you think this camera marketed for? This Zeiss' cinema zoom lens costs $19K is still actually a lot cheaper comparing it to the Canon CN-E 14.5-60mm cinema lens which costs $42,750. That Canon cinema lens, who do you think is targeted for? Just like for formula one race car manufacturers, who do you think they market their products?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Sep 4, 2012)

@ RichardB: No clue who the Canon Cinema EOS C500 is "marketed for." Canon says they want to take over Hollywood with it and the other 2 in this Cinema EOS series. But Hollywood knows nothing about this overtaking business.

Moving on, since the Canon Cinema EOS C500 does not record 4K video, ergo it is not a 4K video camera, although Canon would love you to think that it is. Camera does not record 4K internally, and Canon does not even make an external 4K recorder for it. So, your 4K-cam is now a regular HD-cam.

Moving, on, if you buy a Canon camera for $30,000, and considering that Canon now has all sorts of primes and zoom specifically for their Cinema EOS cameras -- why would you even want to get an Arri lens on it instead? More prestige/bragging rights, maybe?

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mynamehere
By mynamehere (Aug 30, 2012)

This lens looks nice finish making. But what's the price.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

Wow, what superb German technology at work here, ayayay.

FOCAL RANGE: Only 2.85x. I guess it's better than 1x, but still....

BRIGHTNESS: T2.9. So, it's pretty dark, especially considering the short zoom range.

WEIGHT: A 5.5 pound (2.5 kilogram) lens is being labeled here as "sleek, "lean," and "ultralight." Oh well, I guess compared to a 10, 15, or 20 pound lens, it actually is.

PRICE: Twenty thousand American dollars. That's probably about $14-15,000 more than most ordinary shooters could see paying for it.

I especially appreciate the fact that Carl Zeiss will allegedly make this thing with a Sony E-mount. I am just curious, how many folks who purchased one of the cheap Sony E-mount cameras will then spend $20,000 for this particular lens to be mounted on it?

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (Aug 30, 2012)

The cheap Sony NEX camera you are talking about is actually a FF NEX-E mount Camcorder Sony will be releasing soon

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

No, actually I was only taking about the various Sony NEX-series E-mount type digital cameras that actually exist, like now. You know, for real. Not the ones that may be coming up at some future point in time. No biggie, though.

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ET2
By ET2 (Aug 30, 2012)

The full-frame e-mount is rumored to be cheap too. But there is FS700 ... also, most people who do use the lens, will probably be renting it anyway

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ET2
By ET2 (Aug 30, 2012)

Yes Francis, they exist
http://vimeo.com/groups/FS700
http://vimeo.com/groups/FS100

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

@ ET2: We seem to be having a difference of opinion about what a "full frame" sensor really is, it seems.

TO YOU: "Full-frame" is APS-C or Super 35mm sensor size.

TO ME: "Full Frame" is a full-frame 135 sensor, with a 1.5:1 aspect ratio, 36mm x 24mm sensor.

Therefore, I am not aware of any "full frame" Sony E-mount camera out there, period. Sony might have something coming up with a FF 135 (36 x 24mm) sensor, like an Alpha 99 model, but that will have the Alpha lens mount, not the E-mount.

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ET2
By ET2 (Aug 30, 2012)

That's irrelevant. The full-frame lens works just fine on FS700 and FS100, so even if there was no FF e-mount coming (which we know isn't true -- it's coming next month), the lenses would be just as useful on FS700 and FS100.

Besides, there are already credible rumors that on September 12th Sony will announce both A99 (which is A-mount SLT camera) and VG900, which is E-mount camcorder.

Perhaps Zeiss knows far better than you on what they are doing, huh?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

@ ET2: You seem to have issues understanding the various sensor size nomenclature and image circule coverage requirements for them.

A lens that covers "full frame" APS-C and Super 35mm sensor may not cover full frame 135 sensors, you see. If you are not too concerned whether the lens on the camera covers 100% of the sensor or less than that, then just about every lens will be a good match on any camera.

Finally, when you use a full frame 135 lens on an APS-C/S35 sensor camera, you have to contend with a crop factor of about 1.07x. But maybe you don't much care about that, either.

BTW, Carl Zeiss and Sony are entirely different companies.

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ET2
By ET2 (Aug 31, 2012)

I don't see how your babbling is a response to my post. Read again what I posted, and stop posting crap.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (Aug 31, 2012)

Wow I just found a bigger Troll than me, Congrats Francis

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 31, 2012)

A ET2: You still haven't the faintest clue what a "full frame" sensor really is, do you? So sad, really.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (Sep 12, 2012)

So Francis you do look a little stupid today, Sony just released that FF E-Mount Camcorder

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mais51
By mais51 (Aug 30, 2012)

Hey only loose change - consider film makers could spend a few hundred millions making a movie - remind me of a $1500 hammer used for space program !

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Doug Frost
By Doug Frost (Aug 30, 2012)

That thing is like lens porn. And I will need to win the lottery to be able to afford one.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

Only a truly pornographic mind could price this thing out at $20,000, you mean?

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zxaar
By zxaar (Aug 30, 2012)

@ Francis Carver , you have no clue of things.

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yuyucheu
By yuyucheu (Aug 30, 2012)

This lens looks nice finish making. But what's the price.

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Wally626
By Wally626 (Aug 30, 2012)

The recommended retail price is €14,900 or US$19,900 (excluding VAT)*.

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Kabe Luna
By Kabe Luna (Aug 30, 2012)

For the focal length range, the lens looks about as compact as its price.

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Nishi Drew
By Nishi Drew (Aug 30, 2012)

"...highly versatile and a future proof investment"

What on earth is a future proof investment?

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William Koehler
By William Koehler (Aug 30, 2012)

You may have noticed the statement "Thanks to the five different mounts (PL, EF, F, MFT and E), this new zoom lens from Carl Zeiss can be easily adapted to numerous camera systems both now and in the future."

The meaning of that is if you decide to change camera systems/manufacturers in the future, you can have the mount on the lens changed to be appropriate to that. So you are not locked into just one manufacturers lens mount system from now until forever.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

For those of us using Sony SLT digital cameras with the Alpha mount, for example, this lens would not even work. And good luck using a flimsy lens mount adapter in between a 5.5 pound lens and the camera body.

Not particularly versatile, in other words.

And considering that most M4/3 and NEX-series(E-mount) camera bodies weigh under 350 grams, I would love to see how a 2.5 kilogram = 2500 gram lens is going to be balanced on it. I would venture to guess that the rig is gonna be a bit front-heavy, no?

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Fabio Amodeo
By Fabio Amodeo (Aug 30, 2012)

Few users will buy it. Most cinemakers hire the lenses suitable for a specific job. The budget dictates the available range. Small studios own some everyday lenses (many Contax, Nikon AI, Leica R primes available) and hire the more expensive lenses for better paid jobs.

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Edmond Leung
By Edmond Leung (Aug 30, 2012)

The lens is so beautiful!

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pdqgp
By pdqgp (Aug 30, 2012)

I suppose DPR is appeasing sponsors and vendors of all types but a $20k lens as news article on a site like this? Maybe I'm the minority but I can't see the target audience being very wide here. It's like all the car magazines writing up reviews on cars that are $100k+ Interesting reads but the value to the masses is nothing more than entertainment. Must be a slow news day as they say.

IMO I'd much rather hear about gear the masses will use and is a better fit for the majority. Someone buying a $20k lens is not likely the average DPR reader.

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Kjartan Haugen
By Kjartan Haugen (Aug 30, 2012)

Then dont read about it

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Stollen1234
By Stollen1234 (Aug 30, 2012)

i agress with you..also these new canon video camera for 30000..not sure whats Dpreview doing...

also reviewing every thing apple producing lol even ipad and latops..

just wondering when will Dpreview review fils from the vidoe and production point of view..

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Stollen1234
By Stollen1234 (Aug 30, 2012)

to Haugen..

its like saying of spam doenst bother me..just dont read it

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rfsIII
By rfsIII (Aug 30, 2012)

It's not a lens that regular people like us buy; it's a lens that rental houses buy. Someday a client will want the look that this lens provides, you'll remember seeing it here and then you'll be thanking DPR for posting about it. You'll rent it for a week for $500 or $1000 and bill it to the client and all will be well. Peace.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Aug 30, 2012)

This serves 2 important purposes:
1) To show, that lenses for $/€ 2000 are "cheap" and of cource are excellent value for money.
2) To build the Dream for every techno geek (with are 80% here, rest 20% are canon/nikon salesman). *uck the real quality, *uck price/value. Technogeeks must not be satisfied by their L-collection 8-800mm f/2.8. They must always have an unreachable Dream.

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FTW
By FTW (Aug 30, 2012)

Dp Review just informs us about those things. I just doubt that those who have the need and currency to buy those things will show up here to get any information on those things. It's nice to see they exist and they look good. No one ask anyone to buy them, as much as I could read in that article. There are people for which 20k is just peanuts, let's not forget that. If we start criticizing DPR for showing this, then ask to banish Leica cameras as well, some reach those prices too and do not even make a better, or an as good, shot than a 2000$ gear. All you see on this site and other similar ones is for information. Imagine you have to buy all you see .......

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (Aug 30, 2012)

Its a photography equipment and dpreview is announcing that its available. I don't see how this is related to spam at all.

Now if Zeiss was launching a new car then I could consider it as spam ! :P

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Aug 30, 2012)

Reading about expensive state-of-the-art lenses causes cancer. There is a cure, however--reading about Lens Babies.

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georgla
By georgla (Aug 30, 2012)

Normal zoom lenses suitable for professional cinematography (mechanical quality, focus shift...) easily cost 2-3x as much (Zeiss LWZ, Angenieux, Canon...) and cannot be used for larger sensors.

And this lens is actually made by Carl Zeiss (unlike the consumer-lenses) -sounds quite promising, at least for professionals.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

It's a pretty lame lens overall, and a rather bad deal for the money vis-a-vis the other comparable cine-style optics out there, but that's all right.

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Sad Joe
By Sad Joe (Aug 30, 2012)

Sure to be another fantastic Zeiss lens I can't afford (are these all made by those bad boys at Consina?) just as well it doesn't fit anything I own!

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rusticus
By rusticus (Aug 30, 2012)

costs almost nothing

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Bok7h
By Bok7h (Aug 30, 2012)

Mmh... you're a bot ?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/08/30/carl-zeiss-shows-25mm-t2-9-cinema-prime

Be more creative, try synonyms ;)

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Aug 30, 2012)

You got something against bots?

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Bok7h
By Bok7h (Aug 30, 2012)

Rather against the humans who act like bots.
Satisfied ? :)

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rjx
By rjx (Aug 30, 2012)

Hey Zeiss, would it be too much to ask for a few zoom lenses in ZF / ZE mounts that cost around $1500 - $2500?

I think many photographers would go absolutely nuts for an UWA zoom. And something around 24-70.

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Wally626
By Wally626 (Aug 30, 2012)

Want a Zeiss zoom for less than $2500 buy a Sony body.
SAL-2470Z 24-70mm f/2.8 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* Autofocus Lens $1898
SAL-1680Z 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* DT Autofocus Lens $923
SAL-1635Z 16-35mm f/2.8 ZA SSM Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* AF SLR Lens $1898

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georgla
By georgla (Aug 30, 2012)

These lenses are not made by Carl Zeiss - not the same optical or mechanical quality..

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Evildogofdoom
By Evildogofdoom (Aug 30, 2012)

The 16-80 is not up to the normal CZ mechanical quality, while the 24-70 and 16-35 certainly are. They all have the optical quality of German made lenses.

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georgla
By georgla (Aug 30, 2012)

The lenses manufactured by Zeiss in Oberkochen/Jena are made to entirely different standards, sample variation is barely existing, mechanics can withstand decades of abuse in rental-business.

Most "Compact Primes" are based on quite simple designs originally designed for consumer-lenses made by Cosina, nevertheless, you will have a hard time finding a sample that can keep up with a CP optically - this zoom is (most likely) way beyond the possibilities of Cosina or many other manufacturers.

I've seen several decentered or mechanically faulty lenses with the brand "Zeiss", even for the Contax 645 (made by Kyocera, more expensive than Cosina-made lenses today). Never with a lens actually made by Carl Zeiss, not even consumer-lenses like those made for Hasselblad.

Different price category, different quality standards - this "Compact Zoom" is not about the prestigous brand-name, it's about the skill and technology of Carl Zeiss itself.

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Wally626
By Wally626 (Aug 30, 2012)

Certainly the CP line is built to a higher quality standard reflected in the $20,000 prices per lens. The commenter asked for Carl Zeiss Zooms in the $1500 to $2500 range. Which exist for Sony.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Aug 30, 2012)

to georgla:

what a nice ode to CZ.
Real photographic tests say different about IQ of CZ lenses.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

A Carl Zeiss lens is a Carl Zeiss lens, or at least it should be. And if someone is stealing the Carl Zeiss name and is putting it on garbage lenses that are actually not Carl Zeiss lenses, then why does not Carl Zeiss the company do anything about it?

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zxaar
By zxaar (Aug 30, 2012)

@ georgla , who is this zeiss guy who seems to be making better lenses than other human beings??? Or may be Nikon is not real nikon if any part of it is assembled in some place not in Germany. Or may be any canon is not real canon if it is not made entirely in germany??? Why anything has to be made in germany to be real??? Are people in other places dumb asses. Living in germany i can tell you that i do not like what i see here as far as being stringent about work goes. They are not even close to what i had in japan.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

Heck, I just sold my "luxury car" that was also "Made in Germany." Promised to myself this: never again. :-))

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qwertyasdf
By qwertyasdf (Aug 30, 2012)

Are they made by Cosina?

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ageha
By ageha (Aug 30, 2012)

No.

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JWest
By JWest (Aug 30, 2012)

"It takes pictures in 4K resolution"

That's impressive. I've never owned a lens that takes pictures before. I assume this removes the need for a camera? No wonder it costs $20,000.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (Aug 30, 2012)

HaHaHa. That's funny. Then again . . . if you bought the lens for $20,000, maybe the person you buy it from might very well toss in a camera for free. LOL. :)

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Sad Joe
By Sad Joe (Aug 30, 2012)

Surpose its cheap compared to a 'full cinema spec' lenses since its intended to fit 'cheap' DSLRs (5D3 etc) instead - but no! Check out that price.....

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William Koehler
By William Koehler (Aug 30, 2012)

@Sad Joe
Well I suppose you could get this instead... ;-)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/839223-REG/Canon_6141B002_CN_E_14_5_60mm_T2_6_L.html

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Aug 30, 2012)

Wow, amazing specifications for only a low-low, really low $20,000. right?

Well -- not exactly. They say that this $20K lens is good for taking pix and video all the way up to 4K rez, right. Okay, so 4K = app. 8.8MP.

Seems like if you are trying to take stills larger than an 8.8MP resolution, this is NOT the lens for you, right? How much would those be -- you know, those that can take shots at 24MP and stuff?

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JEROME NOLAS
By JEROME NOLAS (Aug 30, 2012)

Ten easy payments and it's yours....

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IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Aug 30, 2012)

This $20k lens seems like a good fit for my $200 E-PL1

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Aug 30, 2012)

I am curious, is the most expensive lens ever offered in the micro four thirds mount?

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (Aug 30, 2012)

It comes in mounts which have adapters available so...YES!

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Wally626
By Wally626 (Aug 30, 2012)

Better match for the GH2. The only higher end MFT body listed on B&H is the Panasonic AG-AF100 P for $4795. Seems strange to make a lens line mount option with only one camera when so many adaptors are available for the other mount options.

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leecamera
By leecamera (Sep 1, 2012)

T stop is a precise measure relating to a specific lens. Often top end lenses will have the T stop calibrations engraved individually for absolute accuracy.

In stills work we are blessed with rather inexpensive glass. Not so for the TV and film world. I shoot broadcast TV and have 2 lenses for my camera - at £15,000 + VAT and £10,000 + VAT each... and these are regarded as fairly "run of the mill" lenses for 2/3" chip HD cameras. I've played with a £150,000 lens (and that was SD. Now THAT was a nice lens...)

LEE

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