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Canon EOS M: hands-on preview of Canon's first mirrorless EOS

By dpreview staff on Jul 23, 2012 at 04:00 GMT
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Canon has, as expected, announced the EOS M - its first mirrorless interchangeable lens camera. Based around the same 18MP APS-C sensor as the recent EOS 650D/T4i, the EOS M is the first model to use a new, smaller 'EF-M' lens mount. It is launched alongside two EF-M lenses that use STM stepper motors optimized for use with the camera's hybrid AF system. As we've seen before in the mirrorless sector, the EOS M is predominantly aimed at the point-and-shoot upgrader market looking for DSLR quality and makes greater use of a 650D-style touch-screen interface. We've been using the EOS M for a little while and have prepared a preview, looking in more detail at Canon's first mirrorless EOS camera and how it handles.

UPDATE. We've recently updated this preview with our own images of the camera, having initially used those provided by Canon. We've also added more information about the camera and screenshots of its touch interface, so if you read our initial preview shortly after publication it's worth having another look. 

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Press Release:

DSLR-quality images at your fingertips: Canon launches the small and simple EOS M

London, UK, 23 July 2012 – Canon today expands its award-winning EOS range with the launch of the new EOS M. The company’s first ever compact system camera (CSC), the EOS M is designed for those who use photography to share their everyday passions – from food, to fashion and culture, music and art. Offering DSLR-quality imaging, creative features and Full HD movie creation in a compact and easy-to-use model, the EOS M is the perfect, take-anywhere partner for a new breed of enthusiasts who chronicle their lives through images, without necessarily considering themselves to be ‘photographers’.

The EOS M is available in sleek black, glossy white, stylish silver or bold red colours, and condenses Canon’s renowned EOS imaging heritage into a stylish, compact design. The model launches alongside two new lenses, the EF-M 22mm f/2 STM pancake and the EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM standard zoom, as well as a new compact EX Speedlite – the Speedlite 90EX – providing everything you need to capture stunning images every day. For those who want to push their images even further, the EOS M can also utilise Canon’s extensive range of EF lenses with the new Mount Adapter EF-EOS M, for even more creative freedom.

The quality of a Canon DSLR

Print your favourite moments in poster-size or crop your image for maximum impact – whether shooting the atmosphere of your favourite club or the intricate stitching of the latest must-have handbag – thanks to the EOS M’s high-resolution, 18 megapixel APS-C hybrid CMOS sensor. The large sensor also allows you to artistically blur the background for beautiful portraits, or for close-ups with impact.

With the inclusion of Canon’s DIGIC 5 processor, colours ‘pop’ and skin tones are beautifully natural, whilst a super-fast shutter allows you to capture split-second action. The atmosphere of evening shoots and challenging night-time scenes are also easily recorded in stunning detail thanks to the EOS M’s sensitive native ISO range of 100- 12,800 (extendable to 25,600).

For pin-sharp shots and professional-looking footage, this new design features a Hybrid AF System that supports super-fast, accurate AF when shooting stills and movies – allowing you to record any moment with confidence.

Shoot what you see and easily express your creative vision

Every aspect of the EOS M has been designed to make it simple to capture beautiful, creative, high-quality images. From the very first swipe across the bright, high- resolution, 7.7cm (3.0”), Clear View LCD II Touch screen, the EOS M gives you as much or as little control over your photos as desired. Simply select different shooting modes and settings via the on-screen icons, or let Scene Intelligent Auto adjust the camera settings according to the subject and shooting conditions, leaving you free to focus on composition and selecting the perfect moment to hit the shutter release button.

EOS M users can shoot with the confidence that comes from having the world's most comprehensive photographic system behind them. Whether you want to capture every detail of a close-up or zoom in to frame a subject in the far distance, any one of Canon’s extensive range of EF lenses can be connected via the new

Mount Adapter EF-EOS M for photographic flexibility.

With one of Canon’s Speedlite flash units, you can also explore creative lighting techniques to add an extra level of interest to your shots. Alternatively, create unique images with a range of Creative Filters like Toy Camera effect, Grainy B&W or even a filter that mimics the distortion of a fish-eye lens. The filters can be applied before the shot is captured, with the result previewed in Live View, allowing you to experiment with different effects before selecting the perfect treatment for your final image.

Turn film-maker with EOS Movie and Video Snapshot

When a moment calls for more than a still image, the EOS M lets you switch easily to Full HD video with stereo sound for superb results. Video Snapshot mode also helps family and friends avoid long home movie viewing sessions, guiding you to create exciting movies in-camera, with a professionally edited feel.

Extending the EOS System with dedicated accessories

In addition to compatibility with Canon’s existing EF lenses1, accessories and Speedlites, the EOS M launches with its own bespoke range of compact accessories. Two new EF-M lenses offer portability and high performance when using the new model – the EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM standard zoom and the
EF-M 22mm f/2 STM pancake lens. Both feature new Stepper Motor technology for exceptionally smooth AF performance, as well as precision Canon optics, while their compact designs offer the perfect form-factor to complement the camera’s pocket-sized body.

Additionally, the EOS M will ship with the new Speedlite 90EX flash unit as standard. Lightweight and highly-compact, it offers a maximum guide number of nine and supports wide-angle lenses, making it an ideal general-purpose flash for everyday use. A wireless master function also allows the control of multiple flash guns wirelessly, allowing more advanced users to experiment with a range of creative lighting effects.

EOS M – key features

  •  The quality of a digital SLR in a compact body

  •  Scene Intelligent Auto

  •  Be versatile with interchangeable lenses

  •  Create out-of-focus backgrounds for high impact

  •  Easy-to-use touch-screen

  •  Atmospheric photos in low light

  •  Full-HD video with Video Snapshot Mode

1 Via Mount Adaptor EF-EOS M

Canon EOS M specifications

Price
MSRP$799.99 with 22mm lens, €849/£769 with 18-55mm lens, €1049/£949 with 18-55mm + 22mm lenses, €979/£879 with 22mm lens + EF adapter
Body type
Body typeRangefinder-style mirrorless
Sensor
Max resolution5184 x 3456
Other resolutions3456 x 2304, 2592 x 1728, 1920 x 1280, 720 x 480
Effective pixels18 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors19 megapixels
Sensor sizeAPS-C (22.3 x 14.9 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
ProcessorDigic 5
Color spacesRGB,Adobe RGB
Image
ISOAuto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800 (25600 with boost)
White balance presets6
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationNo
Uncompressed formatRAW
JPEG quality levelsFine, Normal
File format
  • JPEG: Fine, Normal (Exif 2.3 compliant)
  • Design rule for Camera File system (2.0),
  • RAW: 14bit RAW
  • Digital Print Order Format [DPOF] Version 1.1 compliant
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Phase Detect
  • Multi-area
  • Selective single-point
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
  • Live View
Digital zoomNo
Manual focusYes
Number of focus points31
Lens mountCanon EF-M
Focal length multiplier1.6×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots1,040,000
Touch screenYes
Screen typeClear View II TFT LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed60 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/4000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Program AE
  • Shutter priority AE
  • Aperture priority AE
  • Manual
Scene modes
  • Creative Auto
  • Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Close-up
  • Sports
  • Night Portrait
  • Handheld Night
  • HDR Backlight Control mode
Built-in flashNo
External flashYes (via Hot-shoe)
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Red-eye
Flash X sync speed1/200 sec
Drive modes
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Self timer
Continuous drive4 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
  • Partial
Exposure compensation±3 (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing±2 (3 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
WB BracketingYes (3 frames in either blue/amber or magenta/green axis)
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (30, 25, 24 fps), 1280 x 720 (60, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (60, 50 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, H.264
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage includedNone
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (HDMI mini)
WirelessEye-Fi Connected
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion LP-E12 rechargeable battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA)230
Weight (inc. batteries)298 g (0.66 lb / 10.51 oz)
Dimensions109 x 66 x 32 mm (4.29 x 2.6 x 1.26)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
GPSOptional
GPS notesvia GPE2

Additional images

Top-down view of the Canon EOS-M with 22mm F2.0 'pancake' prime lens.

Rear view of the Canon EOS-M (Silver)
Canon EOS-M with Speedlite EX-90 (included with the camera in most markets) Canon EOS-M shown wih EF 70-200mm F2.8 IS lens, using optional EF-EOS M mount adapter
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ScarletVarlet
By ScarletVarlet (Jul 23, 2012)

So Canon have put their toe in the CSC waters. Looks like a good enough entry level system for the masses who want something better than a crummy P&S, but don't want to spend big enough for a DSLR, also wanting something they can fit in a large purse or a book bag. I'm sure it will sell and people will be happy with it. Not my cuppa, but I'll not try comparing apples and oranges.

1 upvote
howardroark
By howardroark (Jul 23, 2012)

Deleted. Posted in the wrong place.

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
0 upvotes
Lars A G
By Lars A G (Jul 23, 2012)

Samsung's NX-100 did this two years ago and had an optional viewfinder.
I use it as an "always in the car"-camera. The kit-lens was shorter and collapsible.
I got it new (on sale) for $245 .
My choice now would be Panasonic's GX1 and the new powerzoom.
Sorry Canon, too little, too late.

6 upvotes
Cameron R Hood
By Cameron R Hood (Jul 23, 2012)

Wouldn't it have been preferable for them to build something that looked good as well? That thing's hideous...the lens is ugly and doesn't match or look proportionate to the camera, and the off-board flash looks like it came from another camera system completely. Butt-ugly, Canon, nice job...Pentax and Nikon both really appreciate your efforts.

Comment edited 18 seconds after posting
3 upvotes
thisisjh
By thisisjh (Jul 23, 2012)

I need a viewfinder (either in-camera or optional) and at least a programmable thumb dial. I currently own NEX-7.

1 upvote
ryansholl
By ryansholl (Jul 23, 2012)

Then you don't need either - you've already got both ;)

2 upvotes
Walter Ezell
By Walter Ezell (Jul 23, 2012)

Canon can add a lot of features to successor models and introduce lenses. Some things will be harder to introduce:

1. On board image stabilization.

2. Compact form factor that comes with smaller sensors and is the whole point of going mirrorless.

Now that low-light performance is no longer an issue with the newer small sensors, the only remaining issue is the subject isolation using shallow depth of field, and here, the Canon system's larger-crop-factor sensor is an advantage.

Using bigger lenses with an adapter on a MILC is a non-starter as I soon discovered when I switched to mirrorless. Canon will need to introduce a lot of lenses to make this competitive.

Micro 4/3 now has about 3 dozen lenses and at least three manufacturers are adding them all the time.

3 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

"Canon can add a lot of features to successor models and introduce lenses" - Meanwhile every other company will be doing the same with their - already by far more advanced - systems.
Sorry, but world won't keep still for Canon to catch up.

3 upvotes
mzillch
By mzillch (Jul 23, 2012)

STOP MAKING THE GUTS PERPENDICULAR TO THE OPTICAL PATH, JAPAN!

It's too bad designers have a locked mindset that the configuration necessary for the motion of film from one dispensing cylinder roll, flattened out for the exposure film plane, and then re-rolled onto a cylinder on the other side, is STILL maintained in this day and age, yet electronic cams no longer HAVE film so the design is simply nostalgic and a force of habit!

People want the most compact and pocketable forms possible, but insisting on the main body being perpendicular to the lens optics doesn't achieve this. EVIL cams should evolve to the shape and design consumer camcorders more typically employ, where the whole thing is held more like an American football or a trumpet, with the added benefit of not having to cock one's wrist 90 degrees if the cam is held up at head level.

EDIT TO ADD: We hold monoculars this way (or binoculars if using only one hand) so dont give me any "It's less stable your way" BS.

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4 upvotes
mick232
By mick232 (Jul 23, 2012)

The light goes through a lens and hits a sensor which is perpendicular to the light path.

This is exactly how the system is built. If you want to change that, the resulting system will probably not be smaller but larger.

2 upvotes
rurikw
By rurikw (Jul 23, 2012)

Exactly what I have been wondering about for years. Why even the most "avantgarde" (not that there are any really) designs stick to this convention. Why not indeed camcorder or monocular or binocular configuration or hairdryer or pistol... (yes, yes, it mustn't look like you are aiming a gun but the ergonomics...)

1 upvote
spidermoon
By spidermoon (Jul 23, 2012)

it's even worse :) the OM5d is a perfect mimic of a OM10, even the EVF looks like a OVF with glass prism. The only futuristic camera that break the law is the lytro.

0 upvotes
JohnLL
By JohnLL (Jul 23, 2012)

This first step into the mirrorless world seems designed to sell lots of cameras to mainstream / occasional photogs. No surprise there. I hope they follow it up later with a slightly larger body incorporating at least an EVF (preferably a hybrid VF à la Fuji) on the left top rear of the camera (please!) and much more accessible / ergonomic manual controls.

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4 upvotes
Eleson
By Eleson (Jul 23, 2012)

Any info available on possible 3rd party lenses?
Or on other adapters?

One of the biggest thing with the NEX is that there is adapters out there for every Coke bottle since Jesus was i Kindergarten. and that have attracted alot of ppl/enthusiasts who enjoy MF shooting.

Comment edited 18 seconds after posting
1 upvote
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

So far there isn't anything nor much of a tools supporting manual focusing (peaking is something noone managed to beat yet as an assist for manual focusing). But this camera has as short distance from bayonet to sensor as NEX so there's a chance for many adapters to come (most of which would probably be just a simple conversions of NEX adapters).

1 upvote
mick232
By mick232 (Jul 23, 2012)

All the adaptable lenses have already been bought for bargain prices by NEX owners. ;-)

3 upvotes
Jon Ragnarsson
By Jon Ragnarsson (Jul 23, 2012)

It's just the first camera. Entry-level for the wanna-be 'street' photographer. Coupled with the 22mm lens, this would be a very nice take everywhere camera. Let's see what lenses Canon offers before passing judgement.
But it is very compact:
http://camerasize.com/compact/#98,351,315,163,ha,f

1 upvote
Michael Barkowski
By Michael Barkowski (Jul 23, 2012)

Apparently it is required to use the word "bespoke" in camera press releases now. LOL

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jul 23, 2012)

Why of course, it's derigueur or is that de rigueur?

0 upvotes
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jul 23, 2012)

Easier to found a new religion than to roll out a new camera design. Obviously, a compact mirrorless, with a new lens mount, crosses the boundaries of many creeds. Meanwhile, most critics appear compelled to defend unto death the one true camera: their own.

This looks like Canon's answer to the NEX, m4/3, or V1/J1. With a "pancake" it will fit in a large pocket. Otherwise, it's not, and the price with two lenses puts it in league with the Rebel models.

Will it sell? Probably, although not as much as the S100, RX100, or LX7.

What the market might really crave is a compact large sensor fixed-lens camera with a constant F/2.4 from 24mm to 100mm collapsible lens. Could such a beast be only a tad larger than an EOSM with the pancake?

4 upvotes
Paul Farace
By Paul Farace (Jul 23, 2012)

Paying this much for such a limited use camera... proof that there are folks out there with more money than brains...
NO OVF --double damnation!
Sorry Canon, you're not leading the pack, you're following it.
Can't wait to see someone with a 70-200 f.2.8 L glass attched to this camera... would rank up there with the guy using the Minolta 110 SLR with a Vivtar 285 flash back in 1978!

2 upvotes
Marcos Villaroman
By Marcos Villaroman (Jul 23, 2012)

Too expensive for me. I would want both lens and the flash to start with and at that price point, the Olympus OMD is *very* tempting.

At least with the OMD, I got in-body stabilization and an EVF. With this first generation EOS-M I'd be expecting to replace it with the "pro" version within a year or so.

And what is it with the name of this camera body??? I thought "EOS-M" was the name of the new lens mount.

2 upvotes
signapack
By signapack (Jul 23, 2012)

Without Viewfinder ??? no way..

:-(

4 upvotes
lxstorm
By lxstorm (Jul 23, 2012)

That is really great now we can get rangefinder M-mount lens and M-mount digital body both for just 800 USD, perfect! :)

0 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

o_O erm...

1 upvote
magneto shot
By magneto shot (Jul 23, 2012)

" The large sensor also allows you to artistically blur the background for beautiful portraits, or for close-ups with impact."

Nikon, u heard that? now that is what i call an alternative to 4/3, not your Nikon 1 system.

11 upvotes
Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 23, 2012)

So - Pentax made the unexpected Q and the strange K-01 and Nikon made the weird 1 inch cameras. But Canon made a vanilla APS-C one. Hey - all that are whining that it is so common - would you rather have a Q?

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3 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

I'd rather have NEX. But Q wouldn't be so horrible either - at least it's portable: http://lowendmac.com/digigraphica/11dg/art/pentax-q.jpg ;) :P

2 upvotes
Charrick
By Charrick (Jul 23, 2012)

Yeah, Plastek. The Q, if $2.00, would make a great key chain! You were probably only joking around with your comment. But man, I can't believe that that camera was ever developed. It reeks of "last-ditch effort". Its sensor is miniscule...in fact, the same size as any regular P&S, but it costs a lot more. And I don't want to pay for lots of lenses. What can they take advantage of? Thus, even a regular P&S beats the Q. Pentax is in trouble because they're so far behind, and thus they need to come up with gimmicks - hence, the Q and K-01. OK, that's the end of my anti-Q rant, hehe.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jul 23, 2012)

I think most of us would have bought into the NEX system if they'd have made just ONE pancake prime that made sense to own. (Hint, it's not the mediocre 16mm)

1 upvote
NetMage
By NetMage (Jul 23, 2012)

I really wanted to like the Q but the toy lenses, the sensor size, and the price changed my mind. I wanted a Pentax 110 SLR in digital form.

The EOS-M at least shows you can make a tiny camera around a large sensor, and scaling it down to 110 (or 4/3) sensor size would make a camera smaller than the Q!

0 upvotes
pdelux
By pdelux (Jul 24, 2012)

Sure large sensor, Tiny Camera - not that difficult.

The real challenge is making Small lenses for a large sensor. Ask sony how they are doing with that?

0 upvotes
TheChefs
By TheChefs (Jul 24, 2012)

I'm getting a Pentax Q for my woman. She's the designated demographic. Japanese female, not the people here. It's easy to use, it's solid metal not cheap plastic. It has lots of modes to play around. It's easy to make the sky more blue, or get the correct sunset exposure. Does she care about size of sensor, she doesn't even know what that is. But she knows it fits into her handbag and that it looks good.

I wanted to get the Sony RX100, but... the horrible user interface is a turn off. I've looked at other cameras too, but they don't have the friendliness, ease of use and looks. Also it fits perfectly into tiny Japanese hands.

0 upvotes
Vitruvius
By Vitruvius (Jul 23, 2012)

No EVF, no articulated screen, no built-in flash, no dials, no GPS,... for $800+ ?!?! This is a large sensor Point-n-Shoot that doesn't fit in your pocket. What a disappointment.

2 upvotes
Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 23, 2012)

Please give me a reference to mirror less cameras with built in GPS.

Hint - there is none.

Reason - GPS tagging eats batteries - or is slow.

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2 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

Roland - lol. I'm speechless on how dumb this comment is.

[edit: I'm even more speachless now. Ever heard about "turn off" feature?]

Comment edited 52 seconds after posting
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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 23, 2012)

OK - then show me any mirror les cameras with GPS., to reveal my ignorance.

0 upvotes
dweberphotography
By dweberphotography (Jul 23, 2012)

I thought a GPS unit was optional for this camera?

0 upvotes
Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 23, 2012)

Problem being - if it is turned off it does not know its position. And - it takes several minutes for it to find out when turning on. Thats the reason why GPS that dont eat batteries are slow.

There are some external GPS that use a motion sensor to turn off automatically to save batteries. But --- when you start moving you will miss the positions the first minutes. In many applications this is OK.

People using cameras that do turn on GPS when turn on the camera are reported to miss the GPS tagging of the first pictures you take. So - if you just turn it on take one or two pictures then turn it of, you will not GPS tag any images at all.

So --- there are problems.

Why do you think there are so few GPS cameras otherwise?
It would be a VERY NICE feature to have, well worth $50 extra.

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Vitruvius
By Vitruvius (Jul 23, 2012)

All I am saying is that it seems pretty expensive for what you get, ie. not even GPS. The Sony SLTs are the only close camera with GPS and they are not compact cameras but neither is this really. and how will this battery fair with one of those 2.8 70-200L lenses and focus tracking?

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NetMage
By NetMage (Jul 23, 2012)

My iPhone runs a GPS and a cellphone radio - why does a GPS have to use much power?

1 upvote
Beckler8
By Beckler8 (Jul 23, 2012)

We need power zoom though for this to be a real video camera. Would have been easy with the new lens line...

0 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Jul 23, 2012)

Rangefinder styled? Kidding? Its PnS "styled". Just another near useless and overpriced soapbox.

5 upvotes
AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Jul 25, 2012)

Great minds think alike.

0 upvotes
FTW
By FTW (Jul 23, 2012)

Imagine all camera makers would find a way to one single common M mount, what a wonderful world of lenses we would live in. So, no need to say that the EOS M looks like a NEX-5 with some less features. It probably makes same good picture as the NEX. It is a better IQ tourist camera. Just ask myself why this "pocketables" like this one too, are made with that bulky lenses. They should be sold with pancakes as a standard kit lens, that makes sense, not this bulky thing like Sony has it also. And then, why pancakes in 20 or 22 mm. An alround tourist pancake needs between 12 and 16mm.

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IEBA1
By IEBA1 (Jul 23, 2012)

Yea, I don't get the whole segment.
It's more compact!
Unless you wan to use a lens.
Then you might as well use a DSLR so you can have more buttons, more control, more features and easier operation of all of those.

Until they start making a compact travel zoom with a bigger sensor, or even the same size sensor with less pixels and IQ as the primary focus, I'll stick with what I got. There's zero incentive to use any of these tiny ILC.

3 upvotes
Veducci
By Veducci (Jul 23, 2012)

I agree with the previous poster who says the kit lens should be a pancake. The large kit lens which is always included defeats the purpose of the compact body itself and only conveys the true fact that they simply want to sell lenses period! That`s where the money is.

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0 upvotes
turretless
By turretless (Jul 23, 2012)

@IEBA1,
You're taking thoughts from my mind, but you're formulating them much more eloquently :)

0 upvotes
David Hurt
By David Hurt (Jul 23, 2012)

May rent one with the 22mm lens to see how it performs.

0 upvotes
Rawmeister
By Rawmeister (Jul 23, 2012)

Rent one of these? Where, @ local drug store? Har Har
No EVF, no addon optical and they still want that much money.
The 18-55 looks way too large for this camera. Another joke camera from Canon it seems. All Canon APS_C and FF is 18MP except an old 12MP rebel and a 5d MII. WHat is that all about? Is a choice of native resolution too much to ask? SHeesh. And I gues it does not cost enough to expect a crummy built in flash neither. I'm not laughing at this joke.

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dbo
By dbo (Jul 23, 2012)

I assume that this will only be the low end one in their new setup.
Depending on success they will extend the range of models and lenses.
Taking into account that most dslr users are brand loyal, it will for sure be a success.

Canon did right not to do a rush job as Nikon with the 1, than waiting to final design an APSC model.
As of branch analysts assuming mirrorless cameras replacing APSC cameras in the long term, they started with the correct strategy.

I guess there will be three or at least two lines in the mirrorless setup.

1 upvote
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Jul 23, 2012)

They wont, this is squeezed between G1X and 650D. They dont want to harm their dSLR sales. Its more than obvious..

2 upvotes
facedodge
By facedodge (Jul 23, 2012)

LOL at all the haters... Canon is going to sell millions of these.

6 upvotes
Pavel Sokolov
By Pavel Sokolov (Jul 23, 2012)

only one problem - no flash

0 upvotes
Kabe Luna
By Kabe Luna (Jul 23, 2012)

Time will tell.

0 upvotes
Fooshnik
By Fooshnik (Jul 23, 2012)

To who? Someone who wants a 22mm compact instead of a P&S with a 20X optical zoom?

1 upvote
Red G8R
By Red G8R (Jul 23, 2012)

I was very excited at first, BUT from previews, the biggest failure is the AF system.

5 upvotes
Paulo G9Z
By Paulo G9Z (Jul 23, 2012)

After years canon could do it better, improving in places were others fails. What about viewfinder, built-in flash and mechanical controls.

1 upvote
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

Meanwhile others would keep on getting even better improving in places when Canon failed.
"What about viewfinder" - NEX got the best one
"What about built-in flash" - m4/3 or new NEX
"What about mechanical controls" - advanced m4/3, Fuji, NX...

5 upvotes
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Jul 23, 2012)

I'd like to see this camera plopped on a 70-200mm F2.8 IS, just like on the lower right photo up there ^ ... in real life... just for laughs.

Well... perhaps for a few days... maybe.

Until the novelty wears off...

Then the camera is tossed away and the real DSLR is once again attached...

.

5 upvotes
Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jul 23, 2012)

The EF lens adapter cost $200 more than the Pentax K-mount-K-01 adapter and doesn't even have IS. No flash ? The K-01 works with 25 million K-mount lenses made since the mid 70's and Canon DSLRs don't even work with their own FD mount lenses from the mid 80's without an adapter.
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/non-pentax-cameras-canon-nikon-etc/193175-maybe-k-01-not-crazy.html#post2032269

10 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

On the other hand: EOS-M looks quite decently while K-01 looks like a plastic toy from "mid 80's" - it's currently the ugliest mirrorless on the market. Not even saying about the fact that it got few times larger volume with pancake then EOS-M does with pancake.

4 upvotes
LensBeginner
By LensBeginner (Jul 23, 2012)

I personally don't care much about looks.
If I were to buy a camera for its aesthetic appeal, I would buy a Sony Nex 3 or Nex 5.

All you get in the end are photos, and the photos matter more than the looks.

I could agree on the point you made about the K-01 size.

2 upvotes
rrccad
By rrccad (Jul 23, 2012)

with the EF adapter, the EOS-M will AF / aperture control any of the 70 million + EF lenses made.

and I'm sure someone will make an EOS-M to FD adapter .. call it a hunch.

3 upvotes
Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jul 23, 2012)

Plastek, are you on crack or what ? You have the balls to say the K-01 looks like a toy compared to the EOS-M !
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6818509146_5f8f9201c1_c.jpg

Does the EOS-M have IS with every lens ? Does it have a mic port for external mic ? Does it have focus peaking with MF lenses ?

3 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

Hahaha, where in between this whole gear there's Pentax?
This is K-01: http://www.coolhunting.com/2012/02/pentax-k-01-7.jpg
Yes, it does have nice advantages, but equally well I can have regular DSLR - it's as portable as K-01. And offers far more features (eg. I'd go for Pentax K-5 any night or day instead of K-01).

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Alex Sarbu
By Alex Sarbu (Jul 23, 2012)

Plastek: you're funny, calling the metal body Pentax a "plastic toy" while saying about the plastic toy (i.e. plastic body and point&shoot styling) Canon that it "looks quite decently".
By the way, there is no pancake for the EOS M. For the K-01, there are several, the smallest of which being *9,2 mm long* (when mounted).

1 upvote
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

I don't care if it's made of titanium or biscuits - K-01 does look like a plastic toy. And this one looks decently for what it is - an upgrade for compacts owners.
As for pancake - The 22mm f/2 is what then? A telephoto zoom? For all practical needs it is a pancake.

0 upvotes
Alex Sarbu
By Alex Sarbu (Jul 23, 2012)

So, you never actually saw the camera - you're just clinging to that yellow K-01 picture, and even on that the colour is the only clue. Guess what: I did, I even held it in my hands; there's nothing toyish about it. (it does look like and feel as solid as a brick, though)
A 23.7mm long non-retrofocus 22mm lens? OK, call it pancake if you wish - but Canon made no effort in making it compact.
The record, though, is 9.2mm for a 40mm lens.

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J.K.T.
By J.K.T. (Jul 24, 2012)

FD adapter would be nice, but to offer anything new it would have to include aperture control. Canon could do that, but won't. Even if they did, I couldn't afford theirs. :) I doubt others will bother to solve the electronic <-> mechanical problem it poses.

0 upvotes
t ait
By t ait (Jul 23, 2012)

Great that they copied the big sensor and the compatibility to their "standard" lenses from Sony. But they are making a big mistake by positioning this camera as a "beginner's" device. They should not be trying to protect their budget DSLRs, but should replace them with much compacter cameras. No enthusiast photographer buys big cameras anymore, they simply make no sense anymore...

1 upvote
turretless
By turretless (Jul 23, 2012)

"No enthusiast photographer buys big cameras anymore, they simply make no sense anymore..."
Eh? Seriously? :D

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4 upvotes
mg_k
By mg_k (Jul 23, 2012)

'No enthusiast photographer buys big cameras anymore'

um define enthusiast??

0 upvotes
FTW
By FTW (Jul 23, 2012)

Seriously, yes, since I have a NEX-7, i do not touch any of my dslr's anymore. Not even the FF can compete with it. It is versatile, flexible, light, can be used manually with just any lens and adapter, has excellent manual focusing assist system and makes a picture quality that is better than the one of the A900 or even a D3X. There is only one field where it fails and that is handheld Makro, for that the camera is too light. you need a heavy thing to keep the hand quiet in handheld Makro.Maybe some wanabes will still like the big things, or beginners, me as an old one of the ancient times where all was manual, am delighted, I find modern times combined with old times in my NEX. This Canon M looks good, but can not compete the NEX-7. This Canon is a serious tourist camera after all, same as the NEX-5, or is it a just a copy of it?

2 upvotes
turretless
By turretless (Jul 23, 2012)

@FTW
To each his own. When I have space and inclination I carry around 5D3 with a few lenses. If I'm confined with the space I carry compact bag with the same body and two lenses. When I really need to go light I have 5D3 + 50mm prime in thinktank holster. It weights nothing really. And if I don't want/can't have a camera bag for some reason I drop RX100 into my pocket. It called versatility ;)

1 upvote
Fooshnik
By Fooshnik (Jul 23, 2012)

Have fun performing all your manual adjustments with a touchscreen instead of having the buttons at your fingertips. Touchscreen's great for fumbling in the dark, not so good for getting things done quickly. Also, it looks absurd with the 70-200 attached.

0 upvotes
Jerry-astro
By Jerry-astro (Jul 23, 2012)

Waited anxiously for this introduction and frankly am very disappointed. The lenses and the majority of the feature set look good, but the lack of an EVF? Massive FAIL IMHO. We just sold a Sony NEX-5 that we had as a second camera because the LCD was simply impossible to use for reasonable composition on a bright, sunny day. In all other respects, the camera worked quite well. Our hope was to replace it with the EOS-M system. While the system may over time evolve with models that support EVF, frankly, it's not worth the wait. Nice try, Canon, but not good enough.

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Gesture
By Gesture (Jul 23, 2012)

I don't know why OEMs can't design quality, removable screens for the CSCs without viewfinders to help shade the LCD during use. The third-party ones aren't really good enough.

0 upvotes
nemark
By nemark (Jul 23, 2012)

I agree with you for EVF, but for another reason, as well: my aging eyes no more have accommodation for close eye-focusing, and switching eye-glasses (I use one pair for looking far away - I don`t want bifocals for that, and another for camera LCD, another for PC monitor...) each time I want to take a picture is real burden. A BUILD-IN EVF is only what helps.

0 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (Jul 24, 2012)

LASIK is not expensive these days.

0 upvotes
Gordon W
By Gordon W (Jul 23, 2012)

Canon obviously spent a lot of effort coming up with an APS-C mirrorless that won't cannibalize their DSLR sales, but the end result is pretty unappealing as a result. Kind of like Photoshop vs Photoshop Elements.

If what is intended to be a small camera won't fit in a pocket, I can see no reason not to incorporate an EVF. I detest being forced to use the rear display as a viewfinder and therefore would never buy something without an EVF that’s too large to be pocketable.

6 upvotes
IEBA1
By IEBA1 (Jul 23, 2012)

Exactly- why bother to make it small if you have to attach a lens that gives it considerable bulk, or carry multiple lenses to try and do what a compact travel zoom does in a genuine pocketable device.

1 upvote
Anaxagoras
By Anaxagoras (Jul 23, 2012)

No built-in flash - disappointing
No built-in GPS - disappointing

No viewfinder - APPALLINGLY BAD, Canon

1 upvote
BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Jul 23, 2012)

Are all commentators on DP review lost in the dark ages? Why is it that I and a few others have actually increased our shooting capabilities passed an EVF/VF. Catch up or loose out...

0 upvotes
Jerry-astro
By Jerry-astro (Jul 23, 2012)

Pure crock, Beany. Try using a standard LCD on a bright day with the sun behind you to compose a shot. There's a reason why OVFs and now EVFs are found in the higher end cameras (mirror less and otherwise). In this case, yeah, I'm more than happy to "loose" out, thanks.

7 upvotes
Anaxagoras
By Anaxagoras (Jul 23, 2012)

Funnily enough, you don't see many professional photographers holding their cameras at arm's length and squinting at a screen.

And as far as I know, ALL Canon's dSLRS (professional or amateur) have viewfinders.

7 upvotes
mg_k
By mg_k (Jul 23, 2012)

@Anaxagoras

Funnily enough, no professional photographers use mirrorless, regardless of whether it has an EVF/OVF or not.

So what's your point??

'And as far as I know, ALL Canon's dSLRS (professional or amateur) have viewfinders.'

And this isn't a DSLR...so your point again?

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 23, 2012)

GPS? Take a look around. Almost no cameras have GPS. The reason for this is that position tracking with GPS eats batteries. Having it on all the time and you need to charge the battery several times a day. Not having it on and it takes several minutes until it can find your position.

0 upvotes
Jerry-astro
By Jerry-astro (Jul 23, 2012)

@mg_k: get your facts straight. For starters, I've seen MANY journalist shots attributed to an NEX series camera. They qualify as pros, right? Secondly, while it may not be a DSLR, a VF is a matter of convenience and usage, particularly in bright sunny shooting conditions. It may not be a DSLR, but that doesn't exempt Canon from providing tools to help photographers properly frame shots under all conditions... particularly if this is a camera that will run $1K or more fully accessorized. FAIL.

2 upvotes
BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Jul 23, 2012)

Sorry Jerry-astro

I can only tell you how I use my Camera. I have a 60D and a 5DMkIII. The 60D view finder doesn't get used by me. I get better workflow from my screen. Sorry if that offends you ;) My MkIII I do use the viewfinder more. But the screen is used about 40% of the time as well. My shooting angles have improved 10 fold...

0 upvotes
Fooshnik
By Fooshnik (Jul 23, 2012)

Congratulations on your success. It sounds like you had a lot of room for improvement. I don't plan on carrying a hood around wherever I go so I can see the viewfinder in daylight.

1 upvote
ogl
By ogl (Jul 23, 2012)

the most Boring camera ever made

3 upvotes
BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Jul 23, 2012)

Still using an iPhone then? ;)

1 upvote
IEBA1
By IEBA1 (Jul 23, 2012)

Yes. Yes I am.

1 upvote
puffo25
By puffo25 (Jul 23, 2012)

Sorry for the silly question: is this camera able to accept I guess with the Canon M mount, Panasonic and Olympus 4:3 lenses? If yes, I will still have all controls in my camera (ie. autofocus, and so on....).

0 upvotes
NetMage
By NetMage (Jul 23, 2012)

No

1 upvote
bajanexile
By bajanexile (Jul 23, 2012)

Common Canon, where are you? I have used Canon systems since 1981 and have been eagerly waiting for your response to the Sony Alpha NEX-7 and in particular, to the Fuijifilm X-Pro1 and this is what you have offered me. I currently use a Canon EOS 5D Mk.II with five EF lenses and Carl Zeiss Distagon T 21mm f/2.9 ZE lens. I want a a small, very high quality second body plus a high quality 20 or 24mm Focal Length lens for Architecture and Landscape work. I would not consider buying a Canon EOS 650D so it is unlikely that I would consider this offering. You need to wake up and quickly.

3 upvotes
richard2012
By richard2012 (Jul 23, 2012)

Incidentally, camera makers are going mirrorless simply to save money (no mechanical mirror box and required motor, no dedicated PDAF chip, no viewfinder metering chip), as a mirrorless is simply in a sense, a compact camera without its lens(albeit with a larger sensor)....so much cheaper to manufacture (just one or two boards). Removing mechanical adjustment (of mirror/screen/AF/metering chip) reduces production labor, time and costs. Err.., more importantly, increases profit(that is, until the next price war). The short flange back is a bonus, to make cameras not only more compact, but also more platable with the promise of ability to use legacy (MF) lenses. But, really, no maker wants their customers to use old lenses, but if such a feature sells more cameras, so be it. All makers hope that users will eventually prefer to buy new AF lenses in their new 'compact' mounts.
In short, everyone is going mirrorless just to stay competitive (lowering manufacturing costs).

3 upvotes
Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Jul 23, 2012)

Then why does thing thing cost more than a comparable dSLR, that also has a flash, a T/S LCD, a PDAF system, a mirror box and a viewfinder?

16 upvotes
Erik Magnuson
By Erik Magnuson (Jul 23, 2012)

Why does a Nikon V1 "cost" more than a 5100? Why does a NEX-5N cost more than an SLT-A37?

2 upvotes
Rawmeister
By Rawmeister (Jul 23, 2012)

Simple - because they are trying to rip you off.
Same old story for long time now from these companies.

6 upvotes
Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Jul 23, 2012)

So, it's a T4i repackaged and with a lot of features removed (viewfinder, T/S LCD, flash, EF-mount, etc.), and you can't buy it with a kit zoom meaning the T4i with the kit zoom is actually quite a lot cheaper. P&S upgraders aren't going to want a prime and enthusiasts are going to want the missing features, so who is this thing targeted at?

20 upvotes
Rawmeister
By Rawmeister (Jul 23, 2012)

Morons

4 upvotes
estankov
By estankov (Jul 23, 2012)

Im sure this is a nice camera. They are all good nowadays HOWEVER
enough is enough with the cute little design where you have to pinch your camera with 2 fingers and risk losing it in any situation other than a dinner at the table situation.
Seriously do the engineers test those things out on a boat, on a bike, on the street, one hand only, getting it in and out of a pocket, a bag ? I don't think they do.. they just re-hash and re-hash the same old 'design'
I can design a 100 times better camera with better controls layout and ergonomics. Seriously, all Im gonna do is put a ISO dial and a usable grip..who cares if it fits in a girl purse
so thanks but no thanks, you want $800 - make a camera that's usable and sturdy
Too little, too late, too generic.

4 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (Jul 23, 2012)

"who cares if it fits in a girl purse"

The girl and the company which would not be able to make a sale? There are plenty of cameras which don't fit.

0 upvotes
swpars
By swpars (Jul 23, 2012)

As a Sony NEX-5N user who also has a couple Nikon DSLRs and a bunch of lenses, I welcome the competition for Sony. Maybe this will push them to develop better lenses for the NEX system. I'd like something like that 22mm f2 at a reasonable price. The Zeiss 24/1.8 is way too expensive.

This is what the Nikon mirrorless effort should have been like.

3 upvotes
Blondesailor
By Blondesailor (Jul 23, 2012)

Canon's being clever here. They sat on the fence and decided to follow market success (Sony Nex) and avoid what gets poor reviews (Nikon 1). Keep milking that trusty sensor... Main target is clear: mobile phone users who want better IQ but don't want an SLR and don't care about a viewfinder. This has been a cheap product to develop, unlike the Nikon 1, and it should work fine, especially for street photography with the 22mm lens. The concept makes sense but the aesthetics lack a 'want it' factor.

3 upvotes
spidermoon
By spidermoon (Jul 23, 2012)

Phone user who want better IQ goes to p&s at 150euro or entry level µ4/3, or even the cute fashion nikon 1 which price drop to 450euro with kit zoom, not this 800euro beast. Sometime, money talks. At 500euro, it's a buy, at 600euro, i think twice, over that, it's a no go.

1 upvote
Wally626
By Wally626 (Jul 23, 2012)

I think this is a good start for Canon. It lacks some features of its competitors but I expect over the next several years, Canon will grow the lens selections and body selections to fill in those current short comings. If the 22mm has good optical qualities that is a plus, on NEX the 24 CZ does very well but is not compact and is expensive. Kit lenses seem close to NEX kit. The new Canon body is small like the NEX 5N, but lacks articulating display and optional viewfinder. Image quality should be comparable to the NEX line. I expect the new NEX 5 will have built in flash but that is not out yet. Canon does support, if I read correctly, manual audio levels, something Sony has left out of even the A77. I expect that Canon lovers, that have been looking at getting a mirrorless, will like this camera, but I might wait a year to see how the lens line-up fills out and what new bodies might come out. Also the price is high enough not to crush NEX and M4/3 which should still sell well.

0 upvotes
Joele
By Joele (Jul 23, 2012)

The nex 24CZ doesn't compare well to the Panasonic 25/1.4, in size, quality or price...

1 upvote
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

It doesn't compare in quality? LOL

2 upvotes
jboyer
By jboyer (Jul 23, 2012)

I need one...

1 upvote
justmeMN
By justmeMN (Jul 23, 2012)

They lost me "in the US, Canon is only going to sell one kit option in this market. Targeting an enthusiast buyer, the camera plus 22mm pancake will be available from speciality photo stores only for $799, with the 18-55mm zoom sold separately for $299."

So if you want an 18-55mm kit lens, the total cost is $1,098.

It's as if they are begrudgingly making a mirrorless camera, and don't want to sell many of them. I'm sure Sony's NEX department is thrilled.

5 upvotes
FTW
By FTW (Jul 23, 2012)

You're right, man. This is a copy of a NEX-5 at the double of it's price. If I had the choice, I would know where to go. I ow a NEX-7

3 upvotes
Fooshnik
By Fooshnik (Jul 23, 2012)

Don't forget the EF adapter if you want to use your existing Canon lenses.

0 upvotes
richard2012
By richard2012 (Jul 23, 2012)

Contrary to many negative comments, I believe Canon has pulled off the best introduction of a mirrorless system (and I am a Nikon/Sony user).

Which other mirrorless system had (on launch date) such a vast choice of available full function lenses(albeit with an EF adapter) and flashes? While the Alpha NEX lens adapter requires aperture and AF electronics($$$), the EF adapter is nothing more than a tube with contacts. Canon is just milking that cash cow, and can just give it away if they choose. Expect third party EF to EF-M adapters that costs much less, yet retain full EF/EF-S compatibility.

Okay, it does not presently have an EVF, but that HDMI output can be easily wired to one. As for PDAF, let's wait patiently for production firmware.

The only thing missing I see is the remote release socket, but who knows, perhaps even that is implemented via the USB? Or, perhaps a release socket on an add-on ($$$) battery grip ?

I see lots of potential with the EOS-M system.

2 upvotes
JackM
By JackM (Jul 23, 2012)

Using this camera with an EF adapter and an EF lens will make about as much sense as using a Nikon 1 with their adapter and a DX/FX lens. In other words, almost none. This camera has precisely 2 lenses worth talking about at the moment.

8 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

"Which other mirrorless system had (on launch date) such a vast choice of available full function lenses" - every single one. Two lenses aren't difficult to beat, really. (Lenses connected through adapter work with very crippled AF, which hardly is "full function" - besides, NEX came with LAEA1 adapter doing exactly the same, but ever since it got LAEA2 which gives you real fully functional lenses - including proper AF - which Canon doesn't have nor any other system).

"the EF adapter is nothing more than a tube with contacts" - VERY EXPENSIVE for a tube with contacts.

"Okay, it does not presently have an EVF, but that HDMI output can be easily wired to one." -riight... nice way to cheat yourself. Equally way you can use one on NEX. Yet NEX actually did came out with viewfinder accessory right on the release. Currently it offers the best EVF on a market - Canon hardly compares.

"The only thing missing I see is the remote release socket" - it's the only thing? Seriously?

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Tonio Loewald
By Tonio Loewald (Jul 23, 2012)

Actually one of the big temptations of the Nikon 1, for me, is the use of FX telephotos. That said, i was only tempted. And the obvious answer to the grandparent posts are 4/3 (which had an adapter for 4/3 system lenses) and Nikon (albeit a 2.7 crop factor, but Nikon shipped with a wide prime).

At least they didn't go the Pentax route.

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BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Jul 23, 2012)

Hi JackM
What are you on about? "Using this camera with an EF adapter and an EF lens will make about as much sense as using a Nikon 1 with their adapter and a DX/FX lens"
Are you just being sarcastic or something worse? Of course we can talk about the EF and EFS range of lenses with this camera. We can also talk about all Speedlight Flash Guns, Remote switches, GPS system. It's an EOS that's why it got the name. If it wasn't and EOS you may have a valid point. But you are so way of the mark with that flimsy sentence...

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BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Jul 23, 2012)

Hi PlasteK.

Get with the times. EVF, EVF, EVF. I will never use one as it restricts my photography. Only an acrobat that can move and flip on their heads needs to try use an EVF. I'd outshoot anyone using one while I'm using my screen.

1 upvote
sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jul 23, 2012)

@richard2012

Pentax K-01 had native support for over 200 OEM lenses plus many, many more 3rd party lenses at launch. In addition to an internal flash, it also has inbody shake reduction and focus peaking as well.

Just sayin'.

1 upvote
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

@BeanyPic - if EVF restricts your photography then you've got a serious issue with your (lack of) skills. And go ahead, have fun with shooting in harsh light on your rear screen. ROTFL.

4 upvotes
JackM
By JackM (Jul 23, 2012)

BeanyPic, please explain the advantage of this camera over a Rebel for using EF lenses. You can't.

4 upvotes
BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Jul 23, 2012)

I will when I test one in September :)

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BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Jul 23, 2012)

Cheers Plastek.
My 20 years in the trade and my open mindness to new developments has allowed me to increase my business 50% in the last couple of years. And one key factor is that I started to use my screens at lot more. Maybe you need to look at (lack of skills) :) Have a good one guys. I'm going out with my 60D for a while.

0 upvotes
Preternatural Stuff
By Preternatural Stuff (Jul 23, 2012)

Actually, the remote release socket can be easily done with the USB port.

Chainfire's DSLR Controller for Canon DSLRs already shows that one can get all that functionality with an Android phone and any length USB cable.

0 upvotes
JackM
By JackM (Jul 23, 2012)

I hope they come out with a few more pancake primes for this mount, like a 24mm and an 85mm, effective.

0 upvotes
Xellz
By Xellz (Jul 23, 2012)

This at least is far better move, than nikon with their puny mirrorless cameras. And good choice for a pancake lens, 35mm FF eq. and f2? Yes, please! But... i'm already with m4/3 and i think it will take a while for canon to perform as well, as m4/3 as a system. Pure I.Q. is not always enough. Even G3 with soso sensor performance compared to current entry level DSLR's already gives me really good results and its performance in everything else is stunning.

1 upvote
liquidsquid
By liquidsquid (Jul 23, 2012)

Awesome, this is going to make Panasonic sweat a little, and maybe finally push them into global electronic shutters and perhaps a higher-bit depth on the sensors (yeah, right). Anyhow, it is great to see Canon finally enter the fray, and mirror-less may finally make some inroads in the US.

2 upvotes
Hugo808
By Hugo808 (Jul 23, 2012)

I want one.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (Jul 23, 2012)

EOS M with the adapter seems like a good backup camera for a professional with 7D, not taking too much space and weight (although I don't know how much the adapter weighs). But as an only system in your home, there are much, MUCH better choices from Olympus, Panasonic, Sony and Samsung.

3 upvotes
aaaja
By aaaja (Jul 23, 2012)

simply : get a 650D

7 upvotes
jboyer
By jboyer (Jul 23, 2012)

I agree. But if your are a Canon System user, it makes a lot of sens... The G1 X was interesting, this one is worth a double, triple look. A tad steep. price wise. I like the external flash - almost a must on such a small body with these HUGE lenses (not counting any lens hood.

2 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (Jul 23, 2012)

IMHO in all ways currently the G1X is a better option.
Better lens, nicer price, more capable body, viewfinder, more strudy construction (no taking off the lens == no risks for the sensor), good AF (so far in opinions: this one got very poor AF), real controls, real buttons, fast and intuitive UI.
This thing hardly compares.
And if you want a real portability - RX100 is out there waiting as a total winner in terms of "portable camera competition".

3 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (Jul 23, 2012)

650D - if you want big and heavy. But then D5100 or K-30 are better and cheaper.

0 upvotes
NetMage
By NetMage (Jul 23, 2012)

But not very good choices to backup a 7D...

0 upvotes
Antony John
By Antony John (Jul 23, 2012)

Let's put it this way. If Nikon had developed a camera like this I would have been interested.
However they brought the V1/J1 to the market that is of no interest to me.
So, the Canon is a definite step up from the Nikon offering.
As Canon and Nikon are 'the big 2' this puts Canon ahead in this area.
If either company came up with a range-finder type camera in APS-C I'd be even more happy/interested/purchase.

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