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Richard Franiec creates accessory grip for Sony RX100

By dpreview staff on Jul 19, 2012 at 11:47 GMT

Accessory maker Richard Franiec has unveiled his design for a custom grip for the Sony RX100. As usual for one of Franiec's grips, the anodized aluminium accessory is held in place with 3M VHB tape, which holds it firmly in place but can be removed, without damage, later. The design follows the pattern of his existing grips and doesn't protrude beyond the camera's retracted lens barrel, so that pocketability isn't reduced. The grip will be available from August 2012 at a cost of $34.95, plus shipping.


Press Release:

New Sony RX100 Custom Grip

Driven by popular demand this grip is designed specifically for Sony RX100 to address the handling concerns indicated by early RX100 adopters.
 
Thanks to the grip, one-handed shooting of still images and video with RX100 in comfort and safety is now possible.
The grip is individually precision 3D CNC machined from high grade aluminum alloy, glass bead blasted and black anodized with nickel seal for durability. The grip sits below the lens ring so there is no compromise to overall pocket-ability.
 
CG-RX100 grip attaches to the camera by 3M VHB clear transfer tape known for ultimate bonding power in wide range of environments, yet it can be removed without the damage to the camera or grip finish when the need arises.
 
Custom RX100 Grip (CG-RX100) will be available in first part of August 2012 for $34.95 plus shipping.
 
Link to a few pictures of the grip.

Comments

Total comments: 115
oldfilmphotog
By oldfilmphotog (Feb 5, 2013)

As will become obvious (please be kind when replying), I have not bought an RX100 yet but probably will. Rather, I am enjoying the dubious pleasures of anticipation, since I don't get out much in the winter.

Question: has anyone had a problem with the grip's releasing from the camera because of the tape's failing to hold it? (My trustworthy camera is a Canon F1N; hence the genesis of my question.)

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karlos26
By karlos26 (Nov 28, 2012)

Hi, I live in Montreal and I have a RX100. I want this grip for my camera. How I can order this grip and how much for the price and transport.Thanks

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Stefan Gunnarsson
By Stefan Gunnarsson (Oct 13, 2012)

I have a Richard Franiec for my Canon S95 and it makes the camera way better (and also more good looking).

I ordered one today for the RX100.

Strange that Canon and Sony do not make the cameras that way.
Stefan

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Gary Roberti
By Gary Roberti (Sep 28, 2012)

If this grip is attached, can the Sony made camera case still be utilized?

Thanks to all that respond!

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Faction0
By Faction0 (Oct 12, 2012)

It will not fit with the case. Steve Huff put up a youtube video showing it not fitting, sorry.

0 upvotes
snapshot09
By snapshot09 (Jul 29, 2012)

Almost like it was designed with the camera to begin with.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Jul 22, 2012)

Not only is the grip useful but I think improves the look of the camera. Well done Richard.

2 upvotes
snapshot09
By snapshot09 (Jul 24, 2012)

Agree, but then again that is the case with all the Grips Richard has come out with. There are many imitation on or going to be on the market, but you get what you pay for.

1 upvote
vistoalreves
By vistoalreves (Jul 22, 2012)

I have been using for over two weeks this amazing piece of gear.

The camera, without grip, feels very comfortable. Given it's low weight and the subtle thumb grip, it can be hold without much effort.

I am sure that some people will benefit from a quality grip like this, depending on hands size or just personal preference. So it's good news to have aftermarket options to personalize the camera.

But I am grateful that Sony didn't add it from scratch, as it would have added unnecessary weight and, depending on it's design, annoying points of pressure on my fingers. The rounded, rigid body, feels perfect for me.

2 upvotes
Richard Franiec
By Richard Franiec (Jul 22, 2012)

The grip weigths around 25 grams. It is meant to eliminate strain resulted from pinching the camera especially in one-handed operation, portrait orientation or simply carying the cam around.
Nevertheless, I'm glad that you like RX100 as is. It is all about available choices.

Comment edited 4 minutes after posting
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vistoalreves
By vistoalreves (Jul 22, 2012)

Congratulations for your great design and manufacturing.

Minimalist designs deliver manyfold ways to tune gear for everyone, doesn't it?

I think of Leica cameras, Gibson guitars, iPhones and many other industrial designs which are so great as they are born, as they are when tuned for other feel or purpose.

0 upvotes
MartinaB
By MartinaB (Jul 22, 2012)

I am not sure how this is news when a similar grip was discussed June 21 in the Sony forum.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=41848794

And this blog reported a grip for the RX100 June 20:

http://flipbac.com/?p2=/customcode/flipback/viewcomments.jsp&bid=43

1 upvote
Richard Franiec
By Richard Franiec (Jul 22, 2012)

The only similarity is in the word "grip"

3 upvotes
MartinaB
By MartinaB (Jul 22, 2012)

Your grips are good. Its the nepotism and freedom to do business on the forums that irritate. Negative comments of competition reveal lack of confidence and professionalism.

Is there enough self control not to bite this hook?

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
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Seagull TLR
By Seagull TLR (Jul 22, 2012)

@MartinaB Flipbac grips are made with silicone and it is "one size fits all." I agree with Richard Franiec.

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MartinaB
By MartinaB (Jul 22, 2012)

My point is not about about which grip is better. These free "news items" by DPR are worth 10's of thousands of dollars. DPR viewership is 20 million views/ mth. Amazon bought/owns this site for one reason only- for profit.

Continued free press of a company's product would produce very large profits at low cost. In contrast other vendors or photographer rely on their own website or advertising to draw traffic.

This is about business, not about being a nice guy who makes nice products who gladly takes your $34.95 of cash. "Nice guy, nice product" is a type of marketing. Naive to think otherwise.

Consider, other vendors and photographers links/comments are quickly deleted by DPR or even banned from the site.

For example- Really Right Stuff ( http://reallyrightstuff.com/Index.aspx?code=46&key=fr) regularly brings very high quality new products to market. Do they get a news release from DPR?

Two things may be at play here.
1 ) DPR is doing this just to irritate.
2) Graft

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Richard Franiec
By Richard Franiec (Jul 23, 2012)

Just to repeat myself, unlike you I have never posted a link to my product on this or other website related to photography. Your posting history indicates your agenda clearly. This is not the first insult you have directed toward myself or DPReview.
They still here for everyone, who wants to bother to see.
That's all I have to say.

6 upvotes
MartinaB
By MartinaB (Jul 23, 2012)

hook, line and sinker.

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ZUrlocker
By ZUrlocker (Aug 10, 2012)

Graft? Jeez. You gotta be kidding.

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Gary Dean Mercer Clark
By Gary Dean Mercer Clark (Mar 3, 2013)

MartinaB--Dont understand why you attack other's success?Richard's excellent high quality grips didn't just design themselves. It took design creativity and expertise. One thing that Dpreview does do right is they recognize excellence and innovation. Is a mention worth sales on dp review.com?--yes! fantastic. Sorry that you are so miserable---but that won't stop Richard from having the success that he deserves!

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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KameratFLICKR
By KameratFLICKR (Jul 21, 2012)

I am using Richard Franiec's excellent grips on my Leica D-Lux 4 and D-Lux 5 cameras and can vote for their excellent feel, improved handling of camera, and great looks. I also think that they are amazingly reasonably priced. Strongly recommended. (Disclaimer: I have no relation to Richard Franiec and his business except as being a private customer.)

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Beckler8
By Beckler8 (Jul 21, 2012)

I wonder if we can add another dial and some usable buttons too. I'm really tired of the 'apple effect' which is to put form entirely ahead of function. Funny how it's left to 3rd party companies now to make a camera even usable. Cameras are meant to be used by humans with 10 fingers--a smooth rectangular box with no features will never be ideal for that.

2 upvotes
RadPhoto
By RadPhoto (Jul 21, 2012)

I don't think companies are forcing you to buy their products?

1 upvote
Beckler8
By Beckler8 (Jul 21, 2012)

They might as well be, when they're all the same. Ever look at smartphones? Yeah, they're all iphone clones. Surely there is a better design...

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (Jul 20, 2012)

One good thing about RX100 that it's surface is smooth and rounded, no hot shoe, all lugs and buttons and dials are recessed, nothing except the reasonably-sized lens barrel in the middle to catch in your pockets. Seems like this grip might add one more point which can make it not so easy to slip in a tight pocket.
The camera is very light and the shutter release is on top, I don't think a user is supposed to grip it as a DSLR, it should rest on top of a ring finger (or even a pinky if you have a small hand), with middle finger just giving it balance.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jul 20, 2012)

Any thing so smooth and rounded, that slips easily from a pocket can also slip easily from the hand. Even if it does not fall, lack of a grip will make it wobble about more.

Sony's HX7 and HX9 models have rubberized grips that do not interfere with pocketability at all, and which also help prevent unfortunate butterfinger accidents.

0 upvotes
Dan Ortego
By Dan Ortego (Jul 20, 2012)

I agree fully with this. I sweated bullets every time I held my Leica M8 until I added the Leica grip and the 'Thumbs up' device for the hot shoe slot. My jitters went way down and helped me to better stabilize my shots. Maybe it was the price of the camera and the glass that made me so paranoid.

This grip for the RX100 looks very nice and I would buy it in a heartbeat if I were to own the camera.

0 upvotes
balios
By balios (Jul 20, 2012)

A good grip let's you hold a camera with less pressure from your hand. I just have to pick up my LX5 to see that it allows my middle finger to squeeze towards the palm of my hand (which is more natural), rather than having to solely squeeze it against my thumb and rely on friction.

It's about ergonomics / comfort. I have a wrist strap on all my point and shoots, but that's just a safety device that doesn't contribute anything to how I hold it.

Some people may not be overly concerned about the ergonomics of a point and shoot, and that's certainly their right. But it seems kind to be silly to be trying to argue over something that is clearly a personal preference. For example, I prefer to use a belt rather than suspenders. But I don't troll forums for suspenders commenting how I don't use them and I think they're stupid... It's nice to share and all, but what's the point?

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absentaneous
By absentaneous (Jul 20, 2012)

well, I think unless you are trying to use the camera with one hand such grips are quite unnecessary if you know how to hold the camera properly. all you have to do is to use your left hand and basically place it under the camera and in this way the camera gets all the support it needs. you then use the right hand just to press the shutter without the need to extra firm holding. an exception is of course a camera in which you need to interact with the lens, such as zooming as it's the case with a typical DSLR camera. then the ability to have a firm grip with your right hand is necessary as well.

3 upvotes
balios
By balios (Jul 20, 2012)

With a point and shoot you often find yourself in situations where one-handed shooting is preferable.

But its not just when you take a picture. 90%+ of the time that spend with a camera isn't spent taking a picture. With a DSLR you have various straps and holsters. With a point and shoot you might (like me) have it one hand, by your side, ready to be brought up to your face.

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Rob Vermaas
By Rob Vermaas (Jul 20, 2012)

Yes and that "exception" is crucial with this camera. You will very often need your left hand to use the ring.
For zooming for example and then it's very important that you can keep the camera firm and steady with your right hand only.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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Rob Vermaas
By Rob Vermaas (Jul 20, 2012)

Just ordered one....
http://www.kleptography.com/rf/

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australopithecus
By australopithecus (Jul 20, 2012)

Can someone tell me why camera manufacturers insist on making compact digital cameras more and more difficult to hold ? Sure, it's great to be able to stuff a camera into one's pocket but ... but...

Thee latest edition to the Lumix range, i.e. the G5 has gone retro .. thanks heavens !

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George Veltchev
By George Veltchev (Jul 20, 2012)

Ish ...this looks almost as cool as a Datsun 510 model with a big yellow spoiler ....

1 upvote
Seagull TLR
By Seagull TLR (Jul 21, 2012)

Ever seen an AMC Pacer: :D

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jdrx2012
By jdrx2012 (Jul 20, 2012)

Nice grip for sure though not for me as I have ordered the sony case which has a good look and function to it and dont think this grip will fit in it.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 20, 2012)

Bummer. Maybe they should have put a small grip on the camera and designed the case accordingly in the first place :).

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AVe
By AVe (Jul 21, 2012)

Yeah, like the Pana GX1 for instance.
The grip looks exactly the same.
And yes, it does help and no, it doesn't prevent you from putting it in your pocket (with the 14-42 PZ lens).

1 upvote
Trafford
By Trafford (Jul 20, 2012)

Stop using the wife's hand lotion and sandpaper
your hands.

1 upvote
jon404
By jon404 (Jul 20, 2012)

If anyone has this RX100, I can tell you that the Franiec grip on my Olympus XZ-1 is a perfect piece of work, and I can't imagine using the camera without it. My TOTAL recommendation for this precision aftermarket supplier!

1 upvote
IsisPix
By IsisPix (Jul 19, 2012)

Please folks, get a grip. If you want a camera with a grip, buy one. If you buy one that lacks a grip (for whatever reason) and you perceive that an aftermarket grip would aid you when you are shooting, buy it. If you like grips, buy and use them, if you don't like grips (for whatever reason) don't buy them. Pretty simple .

If so inclined, buying a custom grip from Richard is the only choice if you value your investment. Top quality materials, expert machining, and a totally "factory" fit and finish. Did someone mention price? . . . . . Really? Keep up the good work Richard, you are an asset to the industry.

Besides, if someone asks about the grip (that they don't have) just tell them that it's a new model - RX100G - they will never know the difference.

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Bill McClung
By Bill McClung (Jul 19, 2012)

I have bought many custom items from Richard, for myriad cameras, over the years and have never been disappointed. His craftsmanship is the best and his products work well.

5 upvotes
jeerzz
By jeerzz (Jul 19, 2012)

you're calling this custom grip?

so what about this http://www.forum.munkonggadget.com/detail.php?id=19221

1 upvote
emilio74
By emilio74 (Jul 19, 2012)

kidding, right?

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tokyojerry
By tokyojerry (Jul 19, 2012)

He is kidding. It's intended to be some silly joke.

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AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Jul 20, 2012)

Pretty cool. But really ugly, hahaha.

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IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Jul 19, 2012)

I always use a wrist strap because I sure as hell don't want to drop a $200 camera, let alone a $650 camera

2 upvotes
Vitruvius
By Vitruvius (Jul 19, 2012)

Vertical grip with extra battery pack and second set of controls? That is the only way you could take any weeding pictures with this camera.

0 upvotes
SeeRoy
By SeeRoy (Jul 19, 2012)

You're right. This definitely wasn't designed as a gardening camera.

10 upvotes
ryansholl
By ryansholl (Jul 19, 2012)

These posts make me wonder how I ever got a good picture, much less thousands, from the numerous point and shoots I've used over the years that didn't have a grip.

I must be a photographic genius. Had I only had an expensive grip taped onto the camera, I'd no doubt be pro by now.

7 upvotes
LeeR
By LeeR (Jul 19, 2012)

I have a grip on my XZ-1...doesn't make me a better photographer maybe...but does help to me to hold the cam steadier when I am doing one-handed shots, and also helps to keep the cam from slipping out of my hand.

1 upvote
meanwhile
By meanwhile (Jul 20, 2012)

a) It's not expensive. b) It will make you take better shots if you (or someone you hand it to) would have dropped the camera and it didn't work any more.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 20, 2012)

I think you should turn up the exaggeration meter more, I'm not hearing you well enough.

I swear men can be such a sewing circle sometimes. Its an add on grip, a nice one. Something some people value, something others don't. It's that simple. Why argue about it?

C

2 upvotes
ryansholl
By ryansholl (Jul 20, 2012)

Just thought the comments section here needed to reflect drama queendom from a different viewpoint.

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
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marike6
By marike6 (Jul 19, 2012)

I absolutely love the deep grip on the new Pentax K-30.

But this the RX100, the lack of grip never influenced my decision to buy this camera at all. Grips are essential for DSLRs. With a camera this small you'll have your left hand under the lens or base of the camera anyway and you'll have the thumb grip on the back. It's the same with the Nikon J1 or E-M5 - left hand under zoom, right finger on the shutter. These camera are so tiny grips are less of any issue for me anyway, and as long as there is some kind of thumb hook, it's really not unpleasant to handhold them at all.

But I guess if you're into one handed shooting, you'll look into this grip or buy another camera. I like the clean lines of the RX100 (and the IQ/video quality), the grip situation is a non-issue for me.

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tokyojerry
By tokyojerry (Jul 19, 2012)

That pretty much says it all and hits the nail on the head. Thanks.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 20, 2012)

Its a very simple discussion, it helps you keep ahold of the camera better, that's it.

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snapshot09
By snapshot09 (Jul 19, 2012)

In for one!

1 upvote
Mark K
By Mark K (Jul 19, 2012)

Geez....almost never took RX100 for a serious shooting because the lack of this grip

2 upvotes
Lbr0805
By Lbr0805 (Jul 19, 2012)

I use the Optech Compact Strap Trio, especially the finger strap, with my S90. I can't imagine using a compact, even with a great grip, without that extra protection.

2 upvotes
ryansholl
By ryansholl (Jul 19, 2012)

You're really, really unimaginative.

3 upvotes
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jul 19, 2012)

Lack of a good grip is a serious drawback for any small camera. If a $650 toy slips out of your hand and clunks onto the street, you'll know why. Sony designers must have had some huffy feud with the designers of the HX7 and HX9 models, which have a good rubberized grip.

2 upvotes
ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (Jul 19, 2012)

You are aware of the existence of wrist straps, aren't you?

3 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Jul 19, 2012)

For a large camera, yes, a grip is essential to help with the weight of the body and lens. For a tiny camera like the RX100 or S100, you can basically rest the entire camera on your palm, or cradle the lens with your left hand.

2 upvotes
Richard Franiec
By Richard Franiec (Jul 19, 2012)

Some people complain that manufacturers cannot come up with perfect camera. Others complain when someone is trying to improve deficiencies. Is there a middle ground somewhere?

5 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 20, 2012)

Not on the internet Richard, so it seems. Egos are easily bruised is about all the internet reveals sometimes. Excellent work on your grips I have two, love them both.

Carl

1 upvote
FTW
By FTW (Jul 27, 2012)

If there was no need for such a grip, Richard would not make one. Those who think it is not useful should not buy it. What ever you see and you don't want or like, just leave it for others. If we had all the same taste and needs, the world would be boring. I will buy an RX100 soon and I will buy Richard's grip, I find it useful the way it looks like.

Let people talk Richard, the one who has a question finds the one who has the answer, never you see anyone giving an answer to get question asked. Except in business, you show the product and you harvest the critics. If they are founded, react, if they are stupid, smile. You only stress yourself if you take all what people say as serious matter.

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franzel
By franzel (Jul 19, 2012)

This looks brilliant, and is affordable , too !
Can I have one for my Nex 5N ? ;)

1 upvote
ericwestpheling
By ericwestpheling (Jul 19, 2012)

no link to the guys site for pre-order?

1 upvote
Mike C
By Mike C (Jul 19, 2012)

There was a post about a less expensive grip when the RX100 was announced. It provides another option for those too frugal (for whatever reason) to consider the Franiiec grip. They appear to be very good and come in four types. If I purchase an RX100, I'll purchase the Franeic grip.

This topic puts a whole new spin on the term "Get a grip on it". :-)

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keven v
By keven v (Jul 19, 2012)

I have one of the other grips (Flipbac) on mine right now. The problem for me is that although it is providing a better grip, it is very close to the lens (it has to be mounted on the flat front) and my finger is forced to the botom portion of the grip only. I'll certainly give this new one a try.

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jj74e
By jj74e (Jul 19, 2012)

i never understood why companies feel the need to cut down on the grip and make them insubstantial. it's like, it really doesn't help pocketability- it just makes it look more pocketable. but it's not. companies should make the grips at least as big as the lens reaches out, compacts, mirrorless, everything.

2 upvotes
Pixel Judge
By Pixel Judge (Jul 19, 2012)

With high retail price for RX100, this nice grip should have been included by Sony for FREE!

1 upvote
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jul 19, 2012)

Just glue on a patch of sandpaper!

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camcom12
By camcom12 (Jul 19, 2012)

I use small patches of 3M type 610 non-slip adhesive-backed tape on my pocket cams, works great.

Comment edited 19 seconds after posting
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crisg0112
By crisg0112 (Jul 19, 2012)

is it available for ordering?

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SDF
By SDF (Jul 19, 2012)

Stunning grip! I love it. Thank you Richard.

4 upvotes
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Jul 19, 2012)

There should be more and more Richard Franeic innovators out there, and lets welcome them, because the whole world is totally deluged with poorly designed and ill fitting shaped compact cameras and DSLRs.

...and yes, Sony is the leading edge to them all.

.

8 upvotes
jdrx2012
By jdrx2012 (Jul 19, 2012)

link to pictures isn't working at the moment. It looks okay but not exceptionally ergonomic. I, for one, could not care less about the pocketability issue so a deeper grip to fit some man hands would work fine. Maybe two models is the answer?
Looks like applying one of these negates a case. I opt for a nice third party non-leatherette case.

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DFPanno
By DFPanno (Jul 19, 2012)

I'm not sure what these grips are for other then to pull the camera from a vertical case.

I find that I:

Pick up the camera
Put my wrist strap on (I recommend the Olympus Adjustable)
Manipulate the camera and controls with thumbs and index fingers.
My right middle and ring fingers are at the front of the camera bracing it.

Where does a grip come in?

The only time I would see is if you walk around without a wrist strap but at $700.00 that's not me.

I guess other people handle their cameras differently.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 19, 2012)

Yes - I do - I have no wrist strap. Then it is by far much more comfortable to carry the camera in one hand if it has a grip.

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Paul Pasco
By Paul Pasco (Jul 19, 2012)

This kind of grip fills in the void under the ring and middle fingers so you need less pressure with the finger tips. I have one on a V1 and it makes holding the camera a lot more secure, particularly in portrait orientation. But naysayers always know better than those that actually use a product.

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DFPanno
By DFPanno (Jul 19, 2012)

Sharing my personal experiences doesn't make somebody a "naysayer"

Coming to terms with a product like this is not rocket science and does not necessarily require a posteriori knowledge.

I see these grips promoted here but I just can't see where they would be of benefit TO ME.

Maybe you should get a grip.

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Richard Franiec
By Richard Franiec (Jul 19, 2012)

Designing my grips I have in mind users who could benefit from handling enhancement but on the other hand I completely understand others who have no need for transforming their cameras.

8 upvotes
DFPanno
By DFPanno (Jul 19, 2012)

Transformative? Wow.

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tomservo33
By tomservo33 (Jul 19, 2012)

DF, Wow, nice attitude, really helps the discussion to mock.
I for one am pleased that motivated people with actual machinist skills are out there creating products made in the USA.

2 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 20, 2012)

"Transformative? Wow."

Another bruised ego.

Over a grip, get a grip.

Pun- absolutely intended.

C

1 upvote
Hobbit13
By Hobbit13 (Jul 19, 2012)

Is Richard Franeic family of one of the DPReview owners? He gets loads of attention, but is only one of many accecoire makers out there. And an expensive supplier to!

1 upvote
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Jul 19, 2012)

We have no association with Mr Franeic at all. He gets attention because his grips are well spoken-of on the forums, have been good in our experience and he sends us press releases.

We'd consider other accessory makers if they told us what they were up to. But, as you point out, there are many of them, so we can't chase them all.

11 upvotes
jdrx2012
By jdrx2012 (Jul 19, 2012)

don't be a hater...be a hobbit.

3 upvotes
cadet stimpy
By cadet stimpy (Jul 19, 2012)

I've bought two of Mr Franeic's grips and will buy another for my soon-to-be delivered RX100, they are perfectly designed and constructed and subtlety transform the handling of the camera.

6 upvotes
javafool
By javafool (Jul 19, 2012)

You pay for quality. The design is very durable and functional. The grip is precision machined from a solid block of aluminum and sent to a plating house to be black anodized to match the camera color as close as possible. They are not cheap to make but they are made in the USA and quite functional. I will order one as soon as they are available.

6 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jul 19, 2012)

Richard's stuff is great, a fraction of the price that would be charged for the same thing by the camera manufacturer and your spelling is, wow.

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DFPanno
By DFPanno (Jul 19, 2012)

I guess what is weird about these grips from Franiec is that they are always featured yet so many truly transformative pieces of gear and software are not.

It DOES feel like we are being pitched to.

I don't mind that in and of itself (it's an Amazon owned gear forum after all) but it feels a bit conspirational.

Either I'm right or I need a tin-foil hat but I'm guessing the former.

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Richard Franiec
By Richard Franiec (Jul 19, 2012)

I thought that Mr. Butler has explained the "weirdness" in his post.
I'm definitely not pitching to you which I explained in my earlier post.
I don't have association with Amazon except purchasing some items from them. I don't sell my product through them. So much for the conspiracy theory.

2 upvotes
Paul Pasco
By Paul Pasco (Jul 20, 2012)

DFPanno, If you check the Nikon V1, Canon and Olympus forums and search for "Franiec grip" you will find a lot of unsolicited praise for the products and none of them were purchased via Amazon. Conspirational? Maybe you do need a tinfoil hat.

0 upvotes
Seagull TLR
By Seagull TLR (Jul 21, 2012)

Some conspiracy theories never dies. :D

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MaRcIu
By MaRcIu (Jul 19, 2012)

not sure if everything about this camera is expensive or I'm too poor.

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Robert Hoffman
By Robert Hoffman (Jul 19, 2012)

I paid over $400 for my 4-MP S400 nine years ago. The higher-end digital cameras are still quite expensive.

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iudex
By iudex (Jul 19, 2012)

RX100 is extremely expensive (for now at least). The price of 699 eur has no reasoning in comparison to other enthusiast compacts like XZ-1 (350) eur or X10 (430 eur), as well as in comparison to other cameras with similar sensors (Nikon J1: 410 eur).

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cheddargav
By cheddargav (Jul 19, 2012)

The Sony badge will always increase an items price. That being said, I think it's (on paper) a great product.

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Sixpm
By Sixpm (Jul 19, 2012)

We are the 'creators' of our reality, by believing that you're 'poor' will 'draw' the 'poor' experience you're projecting. I'm sure if there is something you desperately wanted you'll eventually will make it happen... :)

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cheddargav
By cheddargav (Jul 19, 2012)

@iudex - the price is a bit high, BUT the sensor is bigger than the one in the cameras you mention (besides the J1) and the J1 can't shoot at such wide apertures while being so small

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Jul 19, 2012)

The only camera with comparable sensor size is the Nikon J1, which had an initial selling price of $649. (The XZ-1 was $499/449 Euro for reference).

As such, $699 as a starting price isn't totally unreasonable - it's a higher-specced camera than most of its peers (bigger sensor, better screen, etc).

Sorry to use dollar prices - I just have those nearer-to-hand.

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (Jul 19, 2012)

$34.95 for a machined aluminium-alloy grip is far from expensive. The camera is pricey to my mind, though R Butler points out some reasons it's over $600.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 19, 2012)

This camera is unique. It has a reasonable large sensor and is reasonable compact and light. It also have a good lens, as far as I know.

And as long as the competition do not answer up to this uniqueness, I assume it will be priced high. Like the Fuiji X100.

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malcolm82
By malcolm82 (Jul 19, 2012)

I really wish it was not unique though, m43 sensors should be the norm for camera's this size at half the price, they will not fool me with claims that the sensors are too expensive. I just hope things will change in that direction in the coming years, maybe triggered by 'phones' like the nokia 808.

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iudex
By iudex (Jul 19, 2012)

I do like the RX100 very much and it is the closest to my ideal of pocketable high-end compact (actually the only pocketable big-sensored compact). But paying for a back-up camera almost the same I paid for my DSLR with f2,8 zoom lens is a bit inapropriate. I know the prices will drop in a couple of months, but now there are small M4/3 cameras with zoom+fast pancake for this price.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jul 19, 2012)

Malcolm - you cannot do such a compact camera with a m43 sensor. We are talking about a 200g camera here. Its a miniature camera that hopefully have very good image quality. Why shall Sony not be "allowed" to make such a camera?

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Peter v.d Werf
By Peter v.d Werf (Jul 19, 2012)

Yes, at 650 it's pricey, but compared to other say a S100 (or my today to be replaced with a RX100, S95) I think the much better specs (IQ, 1080p/50fps) are enough to pay this premium.

I my book there are only 2 type or camera's: the ones that fit comfortably in pants pocket, and the ones that don't. Comparing the RX100 to other non-pocketable camera's is nonsense in my view.
Compare apples to apples.. Kudos for Sony for cramming this tech into such a small form factor.

@Richard: Thanks! I just sold my S95 with your grip, and will get your RX100 grip as soon as it can be ordered!

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nguyenthanhhieuthanson
By nguyenthanhhieuthanson (Jul 19, 2012)

nó trông giống thiết kế của fuj hay panasonic

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ryansholl
By ryansholl (Jul 19, 2012)

Yes, what he said.

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malcolm82
By malcolm82 (Jul 19, 2012)

@Roland Karlsson
You assume it cannot be done but have you actually done any analysis on that? How much do you suppose an m43 sensor weighs?

Film compacts used to be full frame, just think about it :)

Here is one: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-Sure-Automatic-Compact-Camera/dp/B0001NBHJ4

And dont tell me this camera has a slow lens, it is about the same as the sony rx100.

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malcolm82
By malcolm82 (Jul 19, 2012)

Actually quite a bad example since its quite large but it has an 150mm lens after all which has a much bigger aperture than the rx100.

The equivalent of the rx100 on m43 would be about 14-50mm F2.4-6.5 which can easily fit in the rx100 retractable lens barrel size.

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Laurence J. Segil
By Laurence J. Segil (Aug 29, 2012)

Does anybody have any experience with the Sony case for the RX100? Does it serve as a grip as this item does? Might this grip fit inside the Sony case?

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