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Concert Footage from Nokia 808 Pureview

By dpreview staff on Jul 12, 2012 at 22:53 GMT

Nokia-centric site All About Symbian has posted live concert video footage shot on-stage with the Nokia 808 PureView smartphone. The Nokia 808 has made headlines for its unusually large 41MP imaging sensor and 'PureView' technology, which oversamples to give high-quality 3-8MP output or crops to give effective zoom without having to drop to low pixel counts or upsample. It can also capture full HD video footage and its inbuilt stereo microphone can handle audio up to 140db (louder than a military jet).

We'll be posting a report on the 808 soon but, in the meantime, click through to get a taste of the 808's video capabilities in a very challenging (and loud) environment. (via All About Symbian).

Nokia 808 PureView concert footage 

 For more details on this footage, and on the Nokia 808 PureView, head over to All About Symbian

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Pixel Peter
By Pixel Peter (Jul 13, 2012)

I got that phone last week. Very happy with the picture quality. Have a lot to learn. Very good DPREVIEW is testing this amazing smartcamera.

3 upvotes
jj74e
By jj74e (Jul 13, 2012)

point and shoots are officially useless....companies better start putting in significant things like bigger sensors and better lenses, and stop trying to hang on with more scene modes and filters (that they do worse than phone/app companies anyway)

6 upvotes
zoranT
By zoranT (Jul 13, 2012)

That is exactly what Nokia did with the Pureview, 1" sensor, CZ lens f2.4. Wake up.

3 upvotes
JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (Jul 13, 2012)

So, how much optical zoom does this "camera" have? Do you have proper aperture and shutter control? Etc.

Face it: This phone is for people who salivate when they hear megapixel numbers.

0 upvotes
Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jul 13, 2012)

Can the 808 shoot at a super wide 22.5mm eqiv then zoom to 810mm eqiv like my Nikon P500 or zoom from 24 to 840mm eqiv handheld in HD video mode like my Canon SX30 IS ?

http://vimeo.com/15887185
http://vimeo.com/16040013
http://vimeo.com/15750099

0 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"So, how much optical zoom does this "camera" have? Do you have proper aperture and shutter control? Etc.

Face it: This phone is for people who salivate when they hear megapixel numbers."

If I were you, I'd do my homework before posting such nonsense. For example, I'd read some already-existing reviews and comparisons. For example, the one to the Pana LX5. Or that of GSMArena.

5 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"Can the 808 shoot at a super wide 22.5mm eqiv then zoom to 810mm eqiv like my Nikon P500 or zoom from 24 to 840mm eqiv handheld in HD video mode like my Canon SX30 IS ?"

Come on - neither of these cameras produce quality footage at 26 equiv (either). Aliasing (typical for Canon), poor video resolution (which plagues ALL Nikon small-sensor cameras), with (only) 24fps video at 1080p (Canon). The 808's video doesn't have aliasing, has much better true resolution and has both 24p and 30p. Let alone the audio quality, which is absolutely incomparable...

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lecoupdejarnac
By lecoupdejarnac (Jul 13, 2012)

Can you call someone with your Nikon P500 or your Canon SX30? Do they fit in your pants pocket?

1 upvote
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"Can you call someone with your Nikon P500 or your Canon SX30? Do they fit in your pants pocket?"

also add the question

"are you able to make a decent, high-quality video recording with these two cameras, with proper antialiasing but still having high resolution"?

0 upvotes
stylinred
By stylinred (Jul 14, 2012)

you have shutter speed control.. or that is manipulation up to 2.7seconds

0 upvotes
mrmut
By mrmut (Jul 13, 2012)

Wow, this is unexpectedly good!

6 upvotes
familyogre
By familyogre (Jul 13, 2012)

surely any photographer will want this phone in their pocket, the camera is the best in the industry by a country mile and the rest of the phone is decent as well.

The only reason not to buy it is if you're into apps.

6 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"The only reason not to buy it is if you're into apps."

... or get a Nexus 7 or an iPad 3 if you're into apps as it's much nicer to browse the web / watch videos / play games on the hi-res, gorgeous screen than on the iPhone 4S or the PenTile screen of Samsung HD-res phones, particularly that of the iPad 3 ... I also have the iPad 3 (all apps) + Nokia N95 combo, it's absolutely perfect. (The N95 will soon be retired, as soon as I can purchase the 808.)

1 upvote
Mike Walters
By Mike Walters (Jul 13, 2012)

I dont...I have a camera....

0 upvotes
grafli
By grafli (Jul 13, 2012)

Nokia, put Android or Windows Phone in this phone and you're good to go!

4 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"Nokia, put Android or Windows Phone in this phone and you're good to go!"

WP8 will take at least half a year, if at all. No Android phones from Nokia for sure. There was a reason they've chosen WP7 instead of Android...

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JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (Jul 13, 2012)

" There was a reason they've chosen WP7 instead of Android"

Yes, and the reason's last name is Elop. :)

3 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"Yes, and the reason's last name is Elop. :)"

I don't think so. I think Nokia has made the right step. This time, they can be the biggest WP manufacturers not having to compete with Samsung or a plethora of cheap Chinese manufacturers.

IMHO WP will definitely increase market share with WP8 and all its goodies.

1 upvote
tiberiousgracchus
By tiberiousgracchus (Jul 13, 2012)

Great quality visually and the sound is good perhaps a little muffled. The vocals cant be heard well at all. For a phone its very good imo

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kadarpik
By kadarpik (Jul 13, 2012)

No vocals because the mic and camera was near drums to show it would not clip. It is quite hard to detect vocals in such conditions even with naked ear. Marvelous result from small pocket camera and hopefully photo is even better.

5 upvotes
Pixel Peter
By Pixel Peter (Jul 13, 2012)

In the same cluster of video's you find another 808 video:
The Animals & Friends - Don't let me be misunderstood.
Vocals, piano and ambient sound much better there.

2 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"The vocals cant be heard well at all."

Generally, on the stage, the vocal is far harder to hear than elsewhere. That may have been the reason here too, not, say, the camera's mikes' inability to record that frequency area.

1 upvote
glarry
By glarry (Jul 13, 2012)

I have 2 close friends waiting eagerly to buy this Nokia (for video and special for photos). It’s a long waiting list for Nokia 808 to that shop. At least the photos from this camera are very good, big step ahead compared to other phones photos.

3 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

Yeah, long waiting lists here (Europe, Amazon.de, Finland etc.) too. And Amazon.de seems to raise the price of the phone all the time...

1 upvote
stylinred
By stylinred (Jul 14, 2012)

tell em to order from amazon.fr they've got stock

1 upvote
yudhir
By yudhir (Jul 13, 2012)

Perfect..What do you need more.
C'mon people you need to love things that are good,forget what nokia didn't do what apple did and android followed.

0 upvotes
unknown member
By (unknown member) (Jul 13, 2012)

Considering it is also a smart phone that is no way as capable as an iPhone or top level Android I would say it needs quite a bit "more."

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"Considering it is also a smart phone that is no way as capable as an iPhone or top level Android I would say it needs quite a bit "more.""

Why would anyone use a smartphone for Web browsing or gaming when there're much better but still mobile tools for that? For example, the iPad 3. Or the Nexus 7, if it indeed turns out to be as good as promise.d

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Steve Bingham
By Steve Bingham (Jul 13, 2012)

Really crummy audio and video! Sorry.

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yudhir
By yudhir (Jul 13, 2012)

from that place..even your ear can't hear better. its mono though!

4 upvotes
sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jul 13, 2012)

Really crummy compared to what though?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJHeSJRYmcs

0 upvotes
Tee1up
By Tee1up (Jul 13, 2012)

Click over to youtube and watch it in 1080...I can't believe it was taken from a cell phone.

3 upvotes
doggy5354
By doggy5354 (Jul 13, 2012)

I just got the 808 late last month and the stills, video/sound is very good (for an always with you, pocket-able smartphone).
It records stereo audio at 48KHz@128Kbps AAC and the 1080p video is MPEG4 (H264) at 30fps@19.3Mbps (taken from MPC-HC properties tab).

I'd say camera-wise it improved over the previous Nokia N8 and is way ahead of 90% of its rivals in this aspect. Suggest reading the AAS and GSMArena reviews.

Symbian Belle OS is improved over previous versions and is fine for general purpose use but as stated, the amount of 3rd party Apps is limited now due to Nokia partnering with Microsoft, going forward. Perhaps not for power users who really needs a lot of apps. Surely Nokia will port the PureView tech over to their next gen Win8 phones by next year.

I compared it to S100 and G12, the default 5Mp PureView IQ and NR is better, when lighting conditions are equal. The 808 has no IS (or VR), so the P&S cameras has hand-hold advantage at max telephoto zoom and low light.

2 upvotes
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Jul 13, 2012)

Good video from a phone.

But...

No amount of awesomeness in a video will ever sell crappy Nokia interface.

Those who have learned their lessons the hard way know what this means...

.

2 upvotes
yudhir
By yudhir (Jul 13, 2012)

One tech program here, broadcasted a segment of their show on Pureview Video. It was very professional looking compared to their previous arrangements.
Maybe broadcast sector will use it. :)

2 upvotes
sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jul 13, 2012)

I have to ask...

What do you think is wrong with the Nokia Belle interface?

I've been using it for the last 6months or so and it's just as good as any other user interface.

3 upvotes
edu T
By edu T (Jul 13, 2012)

Alas, nothing's perfect... Nokia forgot to fit a 2nd microphone into the case, thus the audio, despite its good enough dynamics and frequency response, is... MONO! :(

0 upvotes
Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Jul 13, 2012)

Someone post a RX100 comparison video please.

3 upvotes
sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jul 13, 2012)

Haven't seen one yet but if other camera phones are a useful point of reference then here's comparos to a couple of popular choices.

iPhone 4S:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQDgroqRw2g&list=UUDueTmENxPZwiIhdzyuO-RQ&index=7&feature=plcp

Galaxy S3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_GkppyvQs&list=UUDueTmENxPZwiIhdzyuO-RQ&index=8&feature=plcp

0 upvotes
SHood
By SHood (Jul 13, 2012)

Just no comparison.

http://vimeo.com/45682834

0 upvotes
sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jul 14, 2012)

The RX100 looks great.

I'll be a front of the queue when someone integrates it into a smart phone.

0 upvotes
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Jul 13, 2012)

Looks noise reduction to me. How does it look in good light?

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G10Rebel
By G10Rebel (Jul 13, 2012)

looks soft.........

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

By clicking the YouTube icon in the bottom right corner, switch to full-resolution/quality YouTube interface - don't use the embedded player.

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Kelvin L
By Kelvin L (Jul 13, 2012)

They were going to shoot the demo with the Stone Roses but technical difficulties led to a change of venue :)

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realityChecker
By realityChecker (Jul 12, 2012)

@Ruy Penalva: I don't agree, the audio seems "very" authentic and if you've ever been on stage, that's what it sounds like back there. Especially when walking around the drum kit, there's no way to cheat that. Looks authentic. ;) Don't forget, high MP's will give you access to great oversampling image stabilization control/algorithms.

2 upvotes
skyrunr
By skyrunr (Jul 12, 2012)

So where is the 20.5mp version for $300?! I"d buy that. ;)

It REALLY needs to be available on an Android powered phone to get anywhere. I tried the WindowsPhone7, while promising and responsive it is lacking so many basic features that it isn't really a Smartphone. I need to check out the Symbian OS to be fair, but I doubt I will see one in a local shop for a while.

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BrunoH
By BrunoH (Jul 13, 2012)

Are you kidding? What are you missing?

I have the exact opposite experience. No other phone OS feels so intuitive and easy as WP. Also no android phone gets even close to the customer satisfaction that Windows Phone and Nokia Lumia 900 gets, 96% (http://www.wpcentral.com/96-users-satisfied-att-nokia-lumia-900-new-nielsen-study) !! Even beats iPhone customer satisfaction. Couple that with this camera and you will have to be stupid to not at least consider a Nokia Lumia next time you're shopping for a phone.

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bb42
By bb42 (Jul 13, 2012)

If this device succeeds in the market other manufacturers will understand there is a niche for hi-Q photo phones - and soon we'll see more of this kind, including Win and Android types.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"If this device succeeds in the market other manufacturers will understand there is a niche for hi-Q photo phones - and soon we'll see more of this kind, including Win and Android types."

Apple and Samsung do know there's demand for high-IQ phones. They (particularly Apple, as Samsung does have some really nice cameras) just don't seem to have the technology / knowledge to do it.

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skyrunr
By skyrunr (Jul 13, 2012)

The same challenges versus IOS apply to the Windows phone. I am a power user and basic functions like email, call history, font sizes, and "settings" is usually empty. There is no swipe keyboard, no LED notification, very few applications have live tiles, and if you do set many of them up it kills your battery.

The Windows phone is fine for non-technical non-power users. I had high expectations for a Microsoft product to work more seamlessly with Microsoft products like Outlook and Hotmail. The tiles are pretty neat but very few applications support them and they kill battery life. Most of the fonts are too small and cannot be changed. Overall when you click on settings in Windows you get nothing. The best features of the Windows products is being able to customize everything.

A rooted Android phone will blow the doors off any Apple or Windows phone. I've been using smart phones since the Palm OS with graffiti days.

http://androidprovision.blogspot.com

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JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (Jul 13, 2012)

The 8 Mpx backlit sensor used in newer Sony Xperias, iPhone 4S and Galaxy S III is excellent, the 808 caters just to the mexapixel-junkies anyway... downsampling to compensate for noise? How quaint.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

"The 8 Mpx backlit sensor used in newer Sony Xperias, iPhone 4S and Galaxy S III is excellent"

Might be OK sensor, but in no way can hold a candle to the image quality (particularly noise levels and true resolution) to the Nokia 808. Have you seen, among other things, the GSMArena direct and blind(!!!) comparison between all these phones? Neither of these cameras fared well compared to the 808.

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chriscotec
By chriscotec (Jul 12, 2012)

Very impressive.

It will put yet more pressure on the compact cameras, a bit like Android and iOS are putting extreme pressure on Nokia in the phone department. If we are to carry one pocket device for everything, what will it be? Maybe a Leica phone?

I am still interested to see where the 41MP sensor makes sense. I suspect Nokia, Sony and Nikon have bought big shares in the digital storage market. I can't imagine any optics that would fit in a device this size keeping up with this kind of resolution when you start to crop. Maybe Carl Zeiss have some very special glass there that the big optics companies don't know about yet.

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falconeyes
By falconeyes (Jul 13, 2012)

This has been covered in several articles. How Zeiss/Nokia managed to resolve all pixels (or almost all of them, it is close to diffraction limit actually where diffraction replaces the AA filter). The lens is five aspherical lens elements in one group (to avoid any manufacturing tolerances) you're not going to find anywhere else. It is a special design only feasible with special materials suitable for relatively small lenses only. Not doable for exchangeable lens cameras.

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Ruy Penalva
By Ruy Penalva (Jul 12, 2012)

Hard to believe. No shaking. Was the cell phone in a tripod? The song seems to be edited too.

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Nikonworks
By Nikonworks (Jul 12, 2012)

The handling of the hot spots of the stage lights is remarkable.

The clarity of the near guitarists face is very good.

Dynamic range amazing.

Even flow of image frames, no steps etc.

Must read up on this technology.

6 upvotes
graphikal
By graphikal (Jul 12, 2012)

I think the 1080p sample is really pretty good for cell phone video. Interested to see the stills quality.

0 upvotes
Luke Kaven
By Luke Kaven (Jul 12, 2012)

Cell phone makers are starting to understand their audience better. A phone that can record a concert, get decent-looking footage, and sound pretty good all at the same time? This should be very popular.

It looks like the kind of bold move that Nokia needed to distinguish themselves from the commodity phones. I don't think it will go this well for RIM.

1 upvote
VideoSam
By VideoSam (Jul 12, 2012)

Not bad for a phone, though looks soft (with sharpening applied).. closer to (and maybe even just a bit below) 720p. Could be either the fault of the lens or the encoder.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jul 13, 2012)

Go to the original video - it's true 1080p.

1 upvote
Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Jul 12, 2012)

Impressive. Maybe they should give up on phones and switch to cameras?

2 upvotes
imbimmer
By imbimmer (Jul 12, 2012)

My guess is many folks will give up cameras and switch to phones! :-)

6 upvotes
Virvatulet
By Virvatulet (Jul 12, 2012)

How so? They do excel at both areas; Nokia's biggest problem has been their rather dull and stalled brand image for several years now. Not their products that much, of course constant improvement is needed with every factor.

If you compare to Apple's admirable success, it has been build on its impeccable lifestyle brand image and carefully selected target segments for their marketing. Apple's marketing machine is arguably the best in the industry, but I think nothing can last forever, Nokia will catch the ball.

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Dpreviewmember
By Dpreviewmember (Jul 12, 2012)

Small sensor point&shoot cams are doomed with this phone and the ones coming after !! Pity, now that Symbian got closer to being and enjoyable OS it will be shut down in 2016 since Nokia decided to go with Windows :(
But at least you can have a nice camera + a phone with updates for 4 more years.

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white tea
By white tea (Jul 13, 2012)

Dear Nokia,
It is time to build a camera. Put your great sensor behind fast lens, like in Samsung EX2F and we will get perfect P&S!!! It is time for innovation!

3 upvotes
andyjayscott
By andyjayscott (Jul 13, 2012)

That's a fairly typical onstage sound, i.e., horrible and completely out of balance. :-) The anti megapixel paradigm doesn't apply to this unit like it does to standard cameras since it's required for it to do all the fancy footwork it does in software to produce such astounding stills. Nice, no doubt, but I'd still rather have a camera. Maybe once the tech spreads more there'll be a unit which appeals more to me. I certainly wouldn't say no as a gift, though! Actually if it was half the price it is I might be tempted since it's obviously going to qualify as 'the camera you have with you'.

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mark moe
By mark moe (Jul 14, 2012)

I can't belive DPR has so many haters... If this was listed as a great PS camera w/ HD video which also has a smart phone built in would that help?

I thin this is a true eveolutionary step and due to competition we'll all benefit.

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