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Sony announces Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 large sensor enthusiast compact

By dpreview staff on Jun 6, 2012 at 04:01 GMT
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Sony has announced the Cyber-shot DSC-RX100, an enthusiast compact camera based around a 20MP 1" CMOS sensor. It features a 28-100mm equivalent lens with F1.8-4.9 aperture range and image stabilization and is the first Sony compact to capture Raw files. It can shoot 1080p60 and capture 17MP (16:9 crop) stills simultaneously. It features a lens control dial and a 3:2 aspect ratio sensor (the same proportions as most DSLRs). It's also the first Sony compact to feature the company's 'WhiteMagic' LCD technology, promising a brighter or lower-power display. The RX100 will be available from July at a price of around $649.

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Press Release:

Sony’s New Advanced Cyber-shot RX100 Camera Packs Large Sensor and Bright Lens into Stylish, Pocket-Size Body

 New Model Contains World’s First 1.0-inch type 20.2 MP Exmor CMOS Sensor and Ultra-bright F1.8 Carl Zeiss Vario Sonnar T* Fixed Lens to Deliver Outstanding Picture Quality

SAN DIEGO, May 16, 2012 – Travelling light no longer means compromising on picture quality with the Cyber-shot® DSC-RX100 camera, Sony’s new flagship compact camera.

Striking the ultimate balance of form and function, the stylish, aluminium-built RX100 camera inherits many advanced imaging features from Sony’s α range of A-mount and E-mount cameras, delivering beautiful still images, crisp full HD videos and a level of manual control and creativity unmatched by any other camera of its size.

“This camera is ideal for travel, portraits or street photography, delivering impressive results in a variety of lighting conditions with an intuitive, customizable control interface,” said Yosuke Tomoda, director of the Cyber-shot business at Sony Electronics. “It’s a perfect step-up model for point and shoot users not interested in larger DSLR or compact system cameras, and also an outstanding choice for enthusiasts who may already own a large DSLR and are looking for a high-quality, pocket-sized ‘all-in-one’ second camera.”

At the heart of the Cyber-shot RX100 is the world’s first 1.0-inch type Exmor® CMOS sensor with a resolution of 20.2 effective megapixels. Specially developed by Sony, the sensor has an area that’s approximately four times larger than the 1/2.3-type sensors in traditional point-and-shoot cameras. The sensor’s larger area takes in more light while capturing content, resulting in beautiful, detail-packed images and Full HD movie clips with very low noise.

The larger sensor is partnered with an exceptionally bright Carl Zeiss® Vario-Sonnar T* fixed lens with 3.6x optical zoom range. In contrast to standard point-and-shoot cameras, it has a wide F1.8 maximum aperture to let in additional light and complement the resolving power of the larger sensor.

Similar to high-performance DSLR optics, the lens features seven- bladed circular aperture. This makes it easy to produce images with subjects in sharp focus against a smoothly-blurred, beautifully defocused background. The lens also features an Advanced Aspherical (AA) lens element that contributes to the camera’s extremely compact dimensions without sacrificing optical zoom performance or resolution.

Newly optimized to complement the 1.0-inch type sensor and lens, the camera’s powerful BIONZ® image processor maximizes shooting response times while helping assure exceptionally clean, natural images. It also extends sensitivity right up to ISO 25600 (using Multi Frame Noise Reduction), allowing for exceptionally clear handheld images in low light conditions. To capture fast-moving subjects, the RX100 camera can also shoot at up to 10 frames per second (in full resolution) and has high-speed autofocus that locks onto a subject in as quickly as 0.13 seconds (depends on scene and lighting conditions).

The new RX100 camera features a high-resolution 3-inch 1,229k dot Xtra Fine LCD™ display and also adds a new feature: WhiteMagic™ technology. This uses additional white pixels to boost screen brightness, allowing users to see subtle details and tones on the screen in all types of shooting environments, including outdoors in bright sunlight.

For making manual adjustments while shooting both still images and movies, the new camera has a smooth control ring around the lens body, which can be used to alter exposure, zoom, creative picture effects and a variety of other customizable functions. Additionally, frequently used functions can be assigned to the Fn (function) button for instant access, and the Memory Recall feature can store up to three groups of customized shooting settings based on user preference.

Similar to a DSLR-style interface, there’s a choice of auto and manual focus modes on the Cyber-shot RX100 camera for enhanced image control. For those that prefer focusing manually, MF Assist magnifies images to simplify fine adjustments, and there’s also a pro-style peaking function that highlights sharply-focused areas of the image on screen.

The RX100 camera offers a generous choice of artistic options to expand creative shooting possibilities. It includes the option for six different creative styles and a variety of popular picture effects including Toy Camera, Partial Color, HDR Painting and several others, most of which can be previewed directly on screen before shooting.

The new Cyber-shot features Auto Portrait Framing – a feature found on Sony’s latest α range of A-mount and E-mount cameras -- making it simple to create sharp, perfectly framed portraits. This unique feature automatically detects faces in a scene, crops the picture accordingly creates a tighter, pro-style composition at full resolution. Both the original and cropped photo are saved for review.

New accessories include a spare battery, dedicated carrying case and a battery charger designed to complement to the new camera.

Pricing and Availability

The Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 digital camera will be available this July for about $650. The camera and accessories will be available at Sony retail stores (www.store.sony.com) and other authorized dealers nationwide.

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 specifications

Price
MSRPUS: $650 EU: €650 UK: £550
Body type
Body typeLarge sensor compact
Body materialAluminum
Sensor
Max resolution5472 x 3648
Other resolutions5472 x 3080, 4864 x 3648, 3888 x 2592, 3648 X 3648, 3648 x 2736, 2736 x 1824, 2592 x 1944, 2592 x 1944
Image ratio w:h1:1, 4:3, 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels20 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors21 megapixels
Sensor size1″ (13.2 x 8.8 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
Color spacesRGB, AdobeRGB
Color filter arrayRGB Primary color
Image
ISOAuto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800, 25600
White balance presets9
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationOptical
Uncompressed formatRAW
File format
  • RAW (ARW2.3 Format)
  • RAW+JPEG
  • JPEG
Image parameters
  • Contrast: -3 to +3 steps
  • Saturation: -3 to +3 steps
  • Sharpness: -3 to +3 steps
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)28–100 mm
Optical zoom3.6×
Maximum apertureF1.8 - F4.9
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Selective single-point
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
Autofocus assist lampYes, built -in LED type
Digital zoomYes (14x)
Manual focusYes
Macro focus range5 cm (1.97)
Number of focus points25
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots1,228,800
Touch screenNo
Screen typeWhiteMagic TFT LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/2000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Auto Advanced
  • Auto
  • Program AUTO
  • Shutter priority
  • Aperture priority
  • Manual
  • Memory Recall
  • Tele Zoom Hi Speed
  • 3D Sweep Panorama
  • Sweep Panorama
  • Anti Motion Blur
  • Picture Effect
  • Scene selection
Scene modes
  • Portrait
  • Anti Motion Blur (6 shot layering)
  • Sports Action
  • Pet
  • Gourmet
  • Macro
  • Landscape
  • Sunset
  • Night Scene
  • Hand-held Twilight
  • Night Portrait
  • Fireworks
  • High Sensitivity
Built-in flashYes (Pop-up)
External flashNo
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Slow Sync
Drive modes
  • Single-frame advance
  • Continuous advance
  • Continuous adv Priority AE
  • Speed Priority Continuous
  • Self-timer
  • Self Portrait Self-timer
  • Continuous Self-timer
Continuous drive10 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec, Portrait 1/2)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±3 (at 1/3 EV steps)
AE Bracketing (3 frames at 1/3 EV, 2/3 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (60 fps), 1440 x 1080 (30 fps), 1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, AVCHD
Videography notes1920 x1080 60p PS: 59.97fps Progressive (appx 28Mbps), 1920 x 1080 60i FX : 59.97fps Interlaced (appx 24Mbps), 1920 x 1080 60i FH : 59.97fps Interlaced (appx 17Mbps), 1440 x 1080 30p :29.97fps Progressive (appx 12Mbps), 640 x 480 30p :29.97fps Progressive (appx 3 Mbps)
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC, Memory Stick Duo/Pro Duo/Pro-HG Duo
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (Micro HDMI)
WirelessEye-Fi Connected
Remote controlNo
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion NP-BX1 battery and charger
Battery Life (CIPA)330
Weight (inc. batteries)240 g (0.53 lb / 8.47 oz)
Dimensions102 x 58 x 36 mm (4 x 2.29 x 1.41)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingNo
GPSNone

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Comments

Total comments: 213
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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Feb 14, 2013)

Making reference to the test shots in the full review here:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-cybershot-dsc-rx100/8

What are the horizontal pinstripes in the sky, in the picture of the jets? is that a design defect of the sensor? click on full size, then on (+) and pan around and you'll see them.

And why do the DRO (dynamic range optimization) photos look like it just makes the image brighter everywhere - like it was just shifting everything to brighter: in the tree and grass, dro level 1 versus level 5.

0 upvotes
ABurtenshaw
By ABurtenshaw (Dec 4, 2012)

Im pretty impressed. The sensor is a bit of a beast, but i felt a bit of quality was lost from the zoom :/

The cameras itself is great quality though and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. Just buy an SLR if you want a massive zoom whilst maintaining the quality.

Im thinking my next purchase will be one of these: http://www.camera-shop.co.uk/ikelite-housing-for-sony-rx100.html

I've heard good things about ikelite housings, so it should be interesting to see.

Comment edited 49 seconds after posting
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Shutterbug108
By Shutterbug108 (Nov 14, 2012)

If Sony will to put this 1-inch sensor into their bridge camera like the HX200V and reduces the zoom range to accommodate for the larger sensor, it will be a fantastic camera.

0 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (Feb 14, 2013)

Indeed it would be. the only bridge camera I know of with a slightly larger sensor is the Fuji X-S1 with it's 2/3" sensor. But wouldn't that hurt their dslr sales a bit too much?

0 upvotes
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Aug 27, 2012)

Test this camera if it will MACRO focus (5cm) on the whole zoom range, not only at the widest angle.

What's the ANSWER?

I will leave that to you: DPR to answer... or any user who jumped and bought this.

The Canon S95 and S100 CAN macro on ALL zoom focal lengths.

.

1 upvote
cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 31, 2012)

Snore.

Better have a wrist strap on at all times (I find them cumbersome for quick out of the pocket shots- a small teeny grip would be better). I find ultra compacts without some semblance of a grip totally uncomfortable to shoot with. I'd rather hold a wet bar of soap.

Even a strip of grip tape/textured rubber on the front would have shown that at least the designers were considering the enthusiast shooter (as opposed to being so worried about how good it looks instead).

Missed the mark by a couple of design points- don't care how good the sensor is or isn't in this case. Next time Sony, next time.

C

1 upvote
Timmbits
By Timmbits (Feb 14, 2013)

Tip:
this is what I did when I owned an Olympuz XZ1 (same problem)
got a rubber adhesive pad from the dollar store, cut it to size and shape, and voilà!
(you know those pads designed to go on funiture sides and feet (anti-slip and to protect the walls))
total cost $1 plus tax, and it looks like the camera came like that.

0 upvotes
SergeyMS
By SergeyMS (Jul 15, 2012)

I want this camera to test quality of image and speed of focus. Very promised features. I have NEX-7 and only thing is irritating me is user interface - so far from classic. Let them look on last Fuji cameras (X-100, x-10 and X-Pro). I really don't understand why Sony use this bulky user interface system so obstinently.

0 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (Feb 14, 2013)

Fuji is a good example, but Samsung is an even better example

0 upvotes
darrenberk
By darrenberk (Jul 3, 2012)

Very impressive, specs wise. I mean, who wouldn't want such powerful features in a very small body? I've seen a couple samples too and they look impressive indeed. However, there are a couple trade-ofs for its tiny size, as mentioned in

http://www.squidoo.com/sony-rx100

0 upvotes
RStyga
By RStyga (Jun 21, 2012)

Potentially good high-ISO IQ but no DoF control with this lens & sensor size...

0 upvotes
Realfi
By Realfi (Jun 12, 2012)

Another comment. Is sensor size the new marketing vehicle having replaced pixel count? When will we finally get to lenses! :-)

3 upvotes
Realfi
By Realfi (Jun 12, 2012)

If ONLY it had a viewfinder or add-on viewfinder option. No matter how good the an LCD is you cannot use them in bright Western Australian sunlight. In very other aspect it seems like a great combination of features but that one thing is a deal-breaker for me sadly..

0 upvotes
Ypo_Caramel
By Ypo_Caramel (Jun 17, 2012)

It's hard to see how this camera could remain pocketable with an integrated EVF, although it's a shame there's no EVF or flash addon. If pocket carrying is not a key concern, then there are many choices - G1X, G3, GX1 with addon, NEX-5 and so on... X10 and XZ-1 may also be considered if compromises in sensor performance are accepted, they are good cameras.

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2 upvotes
Jimmy jang Boo
By Jimmy jang Boo (Jun 17, 2012)

No need for a viewfinder... The new WhiteMagic™ display kicks ass even in direct sun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEPUl28IpKQ

1 upvote
cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 1, 2012)

No need my A$$.

0 upvotes
Zootershooter
By Zootershooter (Jun 11, 2012)

Hmmm . . . sounds like the camera I've been waiting years to buy, though some of the comments give me pause. I'm not a professional photographer and don't understand much of the lingo, but for me there are two obvious disappointments when it comes to a camera at this price: the anemic 3.6 zoom (why not 10x or 20x?), and the lack of GPS to stamp the time and location on the image. For the kind and purpose of the photography I do, those are two important features.

1 upvote
JWest
By JWest (Jun 11, 2012)

If you need 10x or 20x zoom, this is not the camera you've been waiting years to buy. That's like seeing a new model Ferrari in the showroom, and saying it's the car you've been waiting years to buy, except you're disappointed that it doesn't have more passenger space.

Zoom is a compromise - you can't just make a large-sensor compact with excellent IQ, and then stick a 20x zoom on the front of it, without impacting on the quality.

If you need quality that fits in your pocket, buy something like this camera. If you need zoom that fits in your pocket, buy a compact superzoom. If you need quality and zoom, buy an SLR with a huge lens. Until someone changes the laws of physics, or does something extremely new and clever that no-one's anticipating, these will remain your choices.

8 upvotes
redhed17
By redhed17 (Jun 10, 2012)

Looks like Sony really like the design of the Canon s90/95/100. ;-) lol

A bigger sensor in something a similar size can only be good if the sensor is anywhere near the Canon sensor in terms of ISO performance, and the optics are capable, which you would imagine it would be, and hopefully be better.

The price could be a problem though.

It will be interesting to see a comparison between the Canon and Sony in a full review. :-)

0 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (Feb 14, 2013)

Your prayers have been answered...
here's a review of most compact enthusiast cameras out there:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/2367736880/roundup-enthusiast-zoom-compact-cameras/2

...the Canon comes in a miserable last by a wide margin

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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Sephirotic
By Sephirotic (Jun 10, 2012)

i've missed and always wanted something like this for years now. A intermediary sensor betwen APS-C and 2/2.3 with compact body, fixed quality clear lens (altough i would expect a little bit extra zoom) for years.

But the only reason i wanted one of these, as a backup to my DSL, would be, apart from the size, for the reduced price. At 650USD this becomes pointless to me. Nearly the same price of my GH2, with hardly half the quality of it. I'd rather buy a GF3 for 350 usd.

Also, 20mpx? less than 1.5dot pix? That's even smaller than regular high quality 12mpx compact! What's the point of making the big sensor then? Come on sony, you never learn? All the other companies STOPPED bumping megapixels in small sensors. Why don´t you?

1 upvote
WASBA
By WASBA (Jun 8, 2012)

so what is my next p&s camera... RX100 is enough large sensor (1 inch), CZ T* Coated lens I know it is licensed lens but I am pretty satisfied with my 24mm CZ lens (Sony's) and menu design is outstanding and operation speed will be way faster than other ones. Finally deeply trusted sony's build quality. At this point, RX100 is best p&s. I am still using ricoh's gr series but willing to buy this one. :D

0 upvotes
WASBA
By WASBA (Jun 8, 2012)

This camera is very special. Honestly I had used couple of p&s cameras because dslr is sometimes too heavy for casual uses. This is my p&s cameras.. X10, X100, Leica X1, and olympus, panasonic's ones, Canon S95, S100, Sigma DP2s etc.. Actually IQ is depends on its Image sensor size at least digital camera era.. That is true. Next Lens is very important element. To me my last 5 years, best p&s camera was Sigma dp2s. I don't care of its ugly design, heavy weight. IQ is just outstanding. Leica X1 is good but $2000 value? My answer is no. Leica X1 is just another panasonic's mirrorless lineup to me. Especially X1, X10, X100, dp2x is super slow cameras. With SDHC or XC memory card will help to improve writing speed but.. still way too slow. I am one of retro design fan so I just pre-ordered Fuji's X series but build quality is quiet poor(F) and User Interface design is not friendly(B).

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futurewah
By futurewah (Jun 18, 2012)

That is a massive list of cameras you say you have experience of. I notice also you say you have a Ricoh GR in another post. Perhaps it's time to stop buying cameras and take some pictures? Perhaps upload a few so we can see the results from such a large collection?

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Funduro
By Funduro (Jun 8, 2012)

Very nice looking camera. Fast lens at one end. Larger sensor, minimalist build in aluminum, yea that does make me lust one. But my XZ-1 still has a better lens and I like the EVF for the very bright Florida daylight. So those that get one enjoy it.

1 upvote
Jimmy jang Boo
By Jimmy jang Boo (Jun 17, 2012)

That nice lens on the XZ-1 is severly crippled with a punny sensor.

And no need for a viewfinder... The new WhiteMagic™ display kicks ass even in direct sun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEPUl28IpKQ

2 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 1, 2012)

Maybe it's crippled in your hands because you don't know how to use it.

http://photographycourse.net/

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lxstorm
By lxstorm (Jun 8, 2012)

It would be really nice to see similar camera with a fix-focal lens of a better IQ like CZ Tessar T* that kind of little tiny fix focal lens might be realistically manufactured of decent real CZ quality while fitting into P&S budget.

Check CZ CP2 135mm E mount price tags to feel what kind of a real CZ quality might be delivered in the camera besides Latin letters saying CZ Sonnar especially taking into account it's a zoomable version of Sonnar.

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RussellInCincinnati
By RussellInCincinnati (Jun 8, 2012)

Why would you mention a huge, heavy, "CZ CPT" (professional movie camera) $5700 dollar 135mm lens, for full frame 35mm sensors, in this context? Why not recommend people look at a $3000 dollar Super Angulon wide angle lens designed for an 8x10 inch view camera? Or recommend that we look at a toaster oven for design ideas?

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lxstorm
By lxstorm (Jun 9, 2012)

To RussellInCincinnati:

Nope my point was regarding Tessar T* that kind of a fix focal lens due to very simple optical schema and tiny size could be made up to a top notch CZ quality while fitting P&S budget.

Film days I had used Yashika T4 Super and was amazed how well that two hundreds dollars camera stands against my multi-grand Leica M lenses. It would be nice to see similar digital P&S instrument not just zoomable toys but compact instrument of a decent IQ on the market.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 10, 2012)

I wouldn't expect a fixed focal length lens to be any cheaper but yes, the image quality would almost certainly be better than a wide angle zoom. Heck, even Sigma can make a sharp lens if it's not fast and not a zoom. But I guess that's not really what this camera is about.

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mjglantz
By mjglantz (Jun 7, 2012)

Very, very nice. I'd have liked a viewfinder, though (understanding that would've made it a bit taller, but still).

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tmurph
By tmurph (Jun 7, 2012)

The only thing that would worry me is the size of the screen, I mean its a good size but if the camera is good to carry around in the pocket, and it certainly looks small enough, the screen, being so large, would be prone to scratching. Or is it scratch resistant? doesn't say in the spec.
Other than that I think it deserves a chance, so I await the proper review to come.

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Dan W
By Dan W (Jun 8, 2012)

Just put a thin glass protector on it. They work well.

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Shutterbug108
By Shutterbug108 (Jun 7, 2012)

I am hoping they will put a 1-inch sensor into a bridge camera with a big zoom lens.

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jacketgiang
By jacketgiang (Jun 7, 2012)

With a 1-inch sensor, and a 2,7x factor, you'll need a 148mm lens in this bridge to achieve a 400mm equivalent. This is HUGE!

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Shutterbug108
By Shutterbug108 (Jun 7, 2012)

Correct me if I am wrong : But Sony HX200V bridge camera has a 4,8 to 144 mm zoom lens. Is it not feasible ?

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theswede
By theswede (Jun 7, 2012)

Shutterbug, the HX200V has a sensor size of 4.7 x 2.7 mm. The RX100 sensor is 13.2 x 8.8 mm.

So no, not feasible at affordable cost and small size.

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malcolm82
By malcolm82 (Jun 7, 2012)

24-400 equivalent is definitely possible.

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Sephirotic
By Sephirotic (Jun 10, 2012)

i'd like that too, but i also think the 1 inch would need a lens too big. Maybe a quality sensor, 1/1.6 or 2/3 with 12mpx could make a good balance. And a 25-450 zoom would be more than enough for most pratical cituations.

Maybe using the Panasonics pancake zoom design could help reduce the lens size? That 14-42 lens is amazingly sharp.

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Ulfric M Douglas
By Ulfric M Douglas (Jun 7, 2012)

I wish they'd stop intentionally lying to customers by using the terms "1-inch" and "large" in relation to the sensor.
And DPReview going along with this ... repeating the stuff.

That said, isn't this another Nikon1?

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Jens_G
By Jens_G (Jun 7, 2012)

a) the sensor is large, relative to the body, more than 200% larger than the closest competitor's sensor.

b) the body is smaller than the Nikon 1, and it doesn't use interchangeable lenses.

c) IQ beats Nikon 1.

d) IMO, an ILC system doesn't make sense at this sensor size, a fixed lens does.

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jgoring
By jgoring (Jun 7, 2012)

Looks like there's space... A little tab of double sided sticky foam, and my hot shoe optical view finder will fit right between the two microphones. Looks like Sony just obsoleted the S100.

3 upvotes
Shutterbug108
By Shutterbug108 (Jun 7, 2012)

Sony doesn't have a S100; Canon does.

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iudex
By iudex (Jun 8, 2012)

If I didn´t buy an S100, I would wait for this Sony. Almost as big (or beter said: as small), but with 2,5x bigger sensor? Nothing to solve any more...

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Sephirotic
By Sephirotic (Jun 10, 2012)

so what that the sensor is 2.5x bigger? The dot pix is ridiculous small, smaller than the S100 and in par with any regular 12~14mpx 2/2.3 camera.

I'm the only one hat would rather have a bigger dot pix instead of those nearly pointless extra "8mpx" (or should i say, only 800pixels in horizonta?.)

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epsilon2
By epsilon2 (Sep 2, 2012)

Did you do the math?

PowerShot S100:
Sensor size (1/1.7"): 7.44 x 5.58 mm = 41,5152 mm2
Effective Pixels: 12.1 M
Max. resolution: 3000x4000: 12 000 000
Effective pixels per sensor mm2: 291 459
Max resolution per sensor mm2: 289 050

CyberShot RX100:
Sensor size (1"): 13.2 x 8.8mm = 116,16 mm2
Effective Pixels: 20.2 M
Max. resolution: 5472x3648 = 19 961 856
Efective pixels per sensor mm2: 173 898
Max. resolution per sensor mm2: 171 847

A 12mpix 1/2.3" camera has a pixel density of around 428 000 pixels per mm2.

This means that RX100 has about 60% of the S100's pixel density or the other way around S100 has about 67% more pixel density than RX100.

Higher pixel density usually means more noise - so just by comparing this sensor data RX100 is expected to have less noise.

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rbach44
By rbach44 (Jun 7, 2012)

I've been waiting for a camera like this, a real high quality compact camera.

No hot shoe BS, no optional viewfinder that triples the size of the camera, no fluff to try to make it compete with bigger and better cameras that ultimately negate its size advantage, etc. Just a big sensor in s small camera. I mean actually small, like pocketable (unlike every of the other bigger sensor compacts…) Just something small and able to go everywhere but still take decent pictures.

If the image samples are any sort of indication, this camera will be a real winner. Sony gets it on this one.

11 upvotes
vtinitus
By vtinitus (Jun 6, 2012)

i had never planned to use sony equipment exclusively, but whenever i want something new, sony provides the best overall solutions for my needs. i'm very happy with my a55 and lenses (including some decent minolta glass, which is technicaly the same breed) and this little could be the ideal replacement for my aging dsc-h20. I also like its lines - let's hope it keeps up with its promises.

1 upvote
Sephirotic
By Sephirotic (Jun 10, 2012)

I have a suspect the IQ will be smaller than the S100 or even the LX5, specially at higher ISO.

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toomanycanons
By toomanycanons (Jun 6, 2012)

Did all the major camera makers get together and agree to be done with viewfinders? Is their consensus that us buyers don't want them (WRONG) or what?

I love my DSLRs, don't find them too bulky, love their IQ and versatility. A camera such as this Sony comes along, looks great...but alas, no viewfinder so I immediately cross it off my list of potential next buys. Pentax just did that as well. What gives?

1 upvote
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 6, 2012)

Viewfinders cost money. Good viewfinders, especially for multiple focal lengths are sophistcated optical systems, almost like adding a second lens.

3 upvotes
Michael Doleman
By Michael Doleman (Jun 7, 2012)

Viewfinders on cameras of this size & class were always (still are) crap, anyway. I think it's great if you don't find the size/heft of a DSLR to be any sort of hindrance. For much of the shooting I do, it definitely is so. Thus, a camera like this fits the bill perfectly for those circumstances. The lack of a VF can be limiting at times, but that's the (minimum) penalty you have to pay for the convenience of a pocketable camera. It works-out fine, IMO. I can compose quite well with modern displays, and now this camera--with a large(ish) sensor and an f1.8 lens? Are you kidding? I'm buying that.

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Alizarine
By Alizarine (Jun 7, 2012)

The resolution of the LCD itself is enough for most purposes, better with a max aperture of f1.8. If this camera has focus peaking, then even without a VF it will serve its purpose as a compact.

DSLRs will of course have a broader set of functions that compacts have little chance of encroaching.

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Jens_G
By Jens_G (Jun 7, 2012)

IT'S A POINT AND SHOOT FOR GOODNESS SAKe.

3 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jun 7, 2012)

I totally agree with TMC. An inexpensive EVF built in would be something, anything, that you could hold at eye level. Move the flash over and stick one in the upper left hand corner, camera would be a bit taller but still completely pocketable. Even putting a very small but functional grip (slightly bigger than the S100's) on the front would do wonders for this camera. Bar of soap as is.

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iudex
By iudex (Jun 8, 2012)

There´s nothing like "inexpensive EVF". A serious EVF must have at least 1M dots and would cost some 200 USD extra. Then we would read comments like: nobody buys a P&S camera this expensive!

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CFynn
By CFynn (Jun 8, 2012)

The 3" LCD on the back *is* the viewfinder. It's as big as the ground glass viewfinder on an old Rollei TLR or Hasselblad - and nobody had problems composing photos on those.
If you have difficulty seeing it in some lighting - get a hat with a big brim or one of those folding shades you can clip on the back.

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systemBuilder
By systemBuilder (Jun 9, 2012)

My Canon SD850 elph had a viewfinder, a 4x zoom, and cost a little over $200. Are you saying that they threw in the rest of the camera (battery, lens, sensor, motor) for free ?? Are LCDs the same price today as in 2006 ??

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (Jun 11, 2012)

@Jens_G
The problem is it is nice to know on a bright sunny day if you are pointing in the right direction. It is best to see how this extra white display pixel works which might minimise the problem and make it worth losing a veiwfinder. I once had a very miserable holiday with an early Olympus camera without a viewfinder where the display completely disappeared in sunlight which was a case of BLINDLY GUESS AND SHOOT. More recent cameras I have had not been much better.

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markmosk
By markmosk (Jun 20, 2012)

If you define your artistry as a photographer by how you frame shots (i.e. a VF is vital and a screen won't cut it) then I can only assume you never ever touch the crop tool in post? C'mon. You're bored and splitting hairs. We're all a bunch of dorks on here.

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Wally Brooks
By Wally Brooks (Jun 6, 2012)

Not so sure! With Inter changeable lenses, an EVF, Hot Shoe, manual controls, and a sync port for flash Sony has my compact business! From a Happy with my Nikon D7000/pocket wizard shooter who is not happy with Nikons mirror less entry user.

My wife also thinks it's a cute camera and she does NOT want it in pink! Simple concept, easy to understand, get it? NO COLORS!

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Alizarine
By Alizarine (Jun 7, 2012)

um, this is a simple compact. I don't think it's meant to be classified into the same criteria as the Nikon V. This Sony has a fixed lens.

1 upvote
Greynerd
By Greynerd (Jun 11, 2012)

My wife said to me that if I was buying a different colour camera she would understand why I keep changing them otherwise they were just cameras. So having cameras in different colours might spare us a bit of grief.

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metabo
By metabo (Jun 12, 2012)

Time for Divorce!!!!

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DavidsfotosDotCom
By DavidsfotosDotCom (Jun 6, 2012)

These 2 news post today (for the same Sony camera) each have there own comments that are not merged, but should be!
Right?

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wayoutwest
By wayoutwest (Jun 6, 2012)

I've been waiting for a larger sensor compact that's not too bulky. The Canon G1 X is just too big. This looks just right. I'm also in to HD video and the specs look great.

0 upvotes
DavidsfotosDotCom
By DavidsfotosDotCom (Jun 6, 2012)

I will buy it when there is an underwater UW 12+ meter housing for it, I don't want a $1,500 UW hs for my 5Dmk2!
Someone guess what the crush depth is in a ziplock bag?
thx, Free diver

1 upvote
JulMaass
By JulMaass (Jun 6, 2012)

hahaha

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systemBuilder
By systemBuilder (Jun 9, 2012)

We used a $35 vinyl ziplock bag (EBay) on a snorkeling trip to Malaysia with our Canon SD850 Elph. It worked just great to 15-18 ft (my free-diving limit). If you fill the bag with air I'm sure the camera won't get crushed. You'll know when it's in danger of being crushed because the bag will squeeze up against the housing like there is a vacuum inside the camera.

0 upvotes
Knight Palm
By Knight Palm (Jun 6, 2012)

Is the sensor oversized a la Panasonic GH2/LXx, eg, keeping the sensor diagonal fixed for various aspect ratios?

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Thomas22
By Thomas22 (Jun 7, 2012)

Judging by the resolution specs, I'd say the answer is no. I note that the pixel counts for the 16:9 and 4:3 aspect ratios both fit inside the pixel count of the sensor in it's native 3:2 aspect ratio. That's not the case for Panasonic DMC-GH2 (or it's predecessor, the GH1).

1 upvote
LeonardoBarreto
By LeonardoBarreto (Jun 6, 2012)

I am about to go for the X10, and this would not derail my decision for at least two reasons: one, no space for the thumb in the back, two, lens is two exposed when camera is off, or no filter thread. Also, lack of mechanical zoom, and extra controls and dials. Last but not least is the speed of lens F1.8 - F4.9 it is good on the 1.8 side, but bad on the other (X10 from Fuji is F2.0-2.8, 28-112mm ... Image quality I can get with my 5DMk2 or my Mamiya+Phaseone back...

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malcolm82
By malcolm82 (Jun 6, 2012)

The Fuji lens is F2.9-F4 equivalent on 13.2x8.8 sensor so i dont see why you are complaining.
I think you are just showing that small sensors are a marketing advantage.

1 upvote
malcolm82
By malcolm82 (Jun 6, 2012)

They could just as easily have made this camera with an m43 size sensor with F2.4-F6.7 lens which would have been even better.

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marike6
By marike6 (Jun 6, 2012)

I have an X10 and it's an excellent image maker that will be even better with the new sensor. It's not the smallest camera in the world, but boy is it beautiful. I'm extremely happy with images from this camera and I think right now it's one of the very best P&S available. Video is really the only weakness of the X10, IMO.

1 upvote
LeonardoBarreto
By LeonardoBarreto (Jun 8, 2012)

I have to have a UV filter on all my camera lenses, and this is finaly a small zoom camera that has the option. Then there is the mechanical zoom lever ..and the on-off on same -- a camera is not all about mega pixels, it is a machine you have to use and take where the photos are. I worked as a photojournalist and got biased about things like prime lenses, hoods, filter threada manual zooms, external dials.... I suppose that is why the X10 has the "pro" badge .... The badge of the sony is "20MP"

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systemBuilder
By systemBuilder (Jun 9, 2012)

Video on the two major TV camera-maker cameras (Panasonic, Sony) is just great. Somehow, Canon always manages the botch the video on their point-and-shoot cameras, I think they are just toooooooo reluctant to step on their own toes in this segment.

I wouldn't bother with Fuji video and Olympus and Nikon video is also horrible on point and shoots, all the sample video on the camera labs website has shown me which cameras can take real jitter-free and stable video.

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Ray Maines
By Ray Maines (Jun 6, 2012)

I see this as an auxiliary camera rather than the primary picture taking machine in the household. This is the camera you put in the glove box of the car, in your backpack, or take with you when you aren’t planning to take pictures. Higher Image Quality is always better than lower Image quality of course, but obsessing over the IQ of a pocket size, fixed lens camera is a foolish exercise.

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SDPharm
By SDPharm (Jun 6, 2012)

> obsessing over the IQ of a pocket size, fixed lens camera is a foolish exercise.

I don't see why it's foolish to have a small, fast and high IQ camera. For street photography, it's absolutely great to have such a camera. Having 20 MP may be overkill for some people, but if you can have high IQ, why not?

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happypoppeye
By happypoppeye (Jun 6, 2012)

alrighty than ...I always buy cameras for the purpose of not planning to take pictures.

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Master Yoda
By Master Yoda (Jun 7, 2012)

> obsessing over the IQ of a pocket size, fixed lens camera is a foolish exercise.

You are kidding right? There is no reason why a smaller camera can't have nice image quality. Sure the sensor is small but very good images can be obtained if other factors match well and the person behind the camera does their part correctly.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 10, 2012)

I see your point but disagree. This Sony will be sold on sensor size and that, plus the price, will invite comparison to bigger cameras. The image quality will either be stellar or "surprisingly good for such a small camera". If it's the later, I might as well get a $150 camera if my goal is simply to have a camera with me at all times.

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marike6
By marike6 (Jun 6, 2012)

Certainly if you're looking for a P&S this new Sony would be a great choice. That said, in many ways I'd still choose a Nikon 1. At least based on the samples here in DPR, the Nikon 1 images look better at least at lower ISO settings. Color and contrast from the J1/V1 seem much nicer, and you'll likely get much superior AF and metering. Add the ability to mount a telephoto zoom to the J1/V1 makes the Nikon a more versatile camera.

But I do have an interest in the RX100, particularly if it inherits some of the HX9V's great video capabilities like very good IS, and video IQ. And the manual video controls and better frame rates like 60p and 24p should make this camera a winner.

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (Jun 6, 2012)

Imagine if this sensor could squeeze out more DR vs canons aps-c 18mp sensor. Being a bsi sensor the base ISO isn't going to be as clean as it could be. But I see it being at least a stop ahead of the Nikon 1 series at high ISO in RAW.

I bet nikons kicking it self for not going with a Sony sensor for its one series.
Nikon says....Sony we don't need your stinking 1 inch sensor. Sony says...but we have finally made a 1 inch bsi sensor!
Nikon, we don't need your stinking sensor.
Sony, you do realize we make the best sensors out right now.... right?
Nikon, who cares....we don't need your stinking sensor.
Sony, OK....good luck.
Nikon, were going with aptina.
Sony, *snickering while walking away* well....we own aptina...(not really... just saying)
Nikon, we didn't need there stinking sensor.
Sony, alright let's wipe the floor with the 1 series.
Rx100 launch.
Nikon, we should have went with Sony......

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Revenant
By Revenant (Jun 6, 2012)

Aptina: Hey Sony! Too bad you haven't got phase detection AF built into your sensor.

2 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Jun 6, 2012)

As Revenant points out: PDAF. I'll take the phase detection AF of the N1, something that no other ILC maker has been able to implement, any day. The IQ of the N1 is nothing at all the sneeze at, and in many ways, i.e. color/contrast at low ISO, it seems as good or better than the RX100.

1 upvote
Reilly Diefenbach
By Reilly Diefenbach (Jun 6, 2012)

Whoa, this looks like a home run and a half.

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Master Yoda
By Master Yoda (Jun 6, 2012)

Well at least they're heading in the right direction in attempting to give better image quality in a compact. Sensor size and lens brightness are fantastic. My only problem is what many others have already said:

Price is unrealistic
Would have preferred 12mp or 16mp over 20mp
24mm starting point should be the sweet spot
No grip at all
Pop up flash looks like a submarine periscope LOL!
Notoriously average Sony image quality

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Xon_Fedaa
By Xon_Fedaa (Jun 6, 2012)

Hi, M.Y.,

Some thoughts:

Price is unrealistic
- If it doesn't sell as well as they anticipate, I expect a price adjustment (as has happened with the Nikon 1's)

Would have preferred 12mp or 16mp over 20mp
- 16 would have been plenty for me, too

24mm starting point should be the sweet spot
- Agree; perhaps the cam would have had to be substantially larger?

No grip at all
- If the model proves popular, can a Franiec grip be far off? (Doesn't excuse the initial lack of one, of course.)

Pop up flash looks like a submarine periscope LOL!
- Hey, as long as it works!

Notoriously average Sony image quality
- This remains to be seen for this cam. Cam manufacturers sometimes have done remarkably well when configuring all cam components to work with a single lens. So we shall see.

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Master Yoda
By Master Yoda (Jun 7, 2012)

Hi Xon_Fedaa!

Well, we agree the mp's should be lower and a 24mm starting point would be better. I don't think the camera would have to be substantially larger with a 24mm. Yes, the price can be lowered and will probably have to be because this thing is indeed pricey. I agree with you that Franiec will come out with his most excellent aftermarket grip. I have one on my Canon S90 and love it! But one would think Sony would have learned a lesson from Canon's blunder huh? They certainly went out of their way to copy-cat Canon's lens ring adjustment feature huh? I do hope the flash works as well. I just wonder why they have to go with something so gaudy in appearance and it will impede function as griping will be finicky. You're right that I'll give the camera a chance in terms of image quality. I'm just going on past performance of this brand in these small cameras. I'll give it time to prove itself.

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Mal_In_Oz
By Mal_In_Oz (Jun 6, 2012)

I hope Canon are taking notes on what a big sensor fixed lens camera should look like.

If anyone else is going to do this, can I make some additional suggestions.

1. A lack of hotshoe is Ok if the camera can command remote flash units.
2. Give it a grip that protrudes no further forward than the retracted lens.
3. Start at 24mm equivalent. Even a 24-80 would be Ok.
4. Optional EVF.
5. Auto retracting lens cap.[Edit] woops, the Sony has this as well]
6. Provision for filters.

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JackM
By JackM (Jun 6, 2012)

Agreed, I am hoping for a Canon S1X.

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (Jun 6, 2012)

Canon thought "Self PRotection" issues with size of G1X.. Imagine in an emergency (??!!) situation you throw it someone´s had !

That dude get koma, and you save your own life :)))

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JackM
By JackM (Jun 7, 2012)

what?

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JordanAT
By JordanAT (Jun 6, 2012)

Man I hate pop-up flashes on compacts. There's little enough room for fingers as it is.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Jun 6, 2012)

There's nothing to stop you putting your fingers on the top of the camera when the flash is down.

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Knight Palm
By Knight Palm (Jun 6, 2012)

Does the RX100 internal flash work as a commander for wireless flash, like the XZ-1 does? If so, no problems with lacking a hotshoe.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jul 1, 2012)

Lol, of course it doesn't, its a Sony.

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RienOnVanIsle
By RienOnVanIsle (Sep 9, 2012)

It cannot command a flash unit wirelessly, not even Sony's own models? That's half-baked again. Typical.

0 upvotes
roblarosa
By roblarosa (Jun 6, 2012)

$500 tops. $650 is a bad joke.

1 upvote
Jens_G
By Jens_G (Jun 6, 2012)

Go away, cheapskate!
It's only about 60% more expensive than an S100, but it's more than 60% better.

4 upvotes
roblarosa
By roblarosa (Jun 6, 2012)

PT Barnum was right - there *is* a sucker born every minute. "Only 60% more expensive". Listen to yourself!

1 upvote
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Jun 6, 2012)

Look at the table above, where it compares size, sensor size, equivalent aperture and price. The price sits pretty much where you'd expect it to, compared to all the competition.

5 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 6, 2012)

With all this enthusiasm I wouldn't be surprised if they go $700. This camera will get the Steve Jobs treatment, the black box, the calfskin leather case, ads with upscale women in dimly lit restaurants, BMWs, etc. People on a budget are not going to buy one, even for $450 so there's no incentive to make it a bargain. Of course, as with the X10, some people will buy it because it looks nice.

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blank_
By blank_ (Jun 6, 2012)

nice. I just sold my sigma dp1 and this looks very good.

it's lighter than nikon J1 without a lens!

24-85 would be much better, especially considering 20mpix

anyone knows how fast is it @35mm and @50mm?

1 upvote
blank_
By blank_ (Jun 6, 2012)

so I just found out it's still 2.8 @50mm. Good enough for me

4 upvotes
J. Qian
By J. Qian (Jun 6, 2012)

None GPS for Sony's latest travel camera? This will turn off a lot of people, nowadays a smartphone will usually have GPS to code its photos in EXIF.

3 upvotes
Photato
By Photato (Jun 6, 2012)

ha! same marketing pixel stuffing cr@p. You need a tripod to get pixel sharp images at 20mp.Which is pointless with a p&s camera like this.
Too bad because this camera looks interesting otherwise. Damn, they always manage to screw it with something!
Also, dealing with humongous raw files takes the fun out. 20mp is definitely overkill for this category.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Jun 6, 2012)

Even with a tripod it is hopeless. The lens is probably somewhere in the range of 20-40 lp/mm depending on the focal length and aperture, 50 if it is absolutely marvelous. For 8 mm high sensor even 50 gives 400 line pairs (800 lines) maximum when contrast is reduced 5 times (80%). With the 3:2 sensor it is 1200x800, or 1 megapixel. OK, even double pixels in each direction for no good reason, it gives 4 megapixels.
On the other hand, they have 5 megapixel JPEG, so if the ridiculous headline number helps them sell to ignorant, good for them.

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malcolm82
By malcolm82 (Jun 6, 2012)

Dont forget that lenses for smaller sensors have much higher lp/mm resolution than larger sensor lenses since i suspect you are thinking about full frame lenses for your 20-40 lp/mm numbers and even full frame lenses do get higher resolutions through at low mtf's.
This lens should be worth about double the pixel resolution than the lens on average size sensor compacts which usually have more than 10mp. Though 20mp on this sensor size would compare to about 54.5mp on full frame with equal quality lenses so they are definitely pushing it but no more than other compacts :)

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ogl
By ogl (Jun 6, 2012)

The problem is only one. Sony's P&S cameras have the worst IQ between other brands. If Sony produce new and good processor for RX100, it will be good camera.

1 upvote
Jens_G
By Jens_G (Jun 6, 2012)

One word: RAW.

3 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (Jun 6, 2012)

this is interesting! not bad....but still cramping up pixels? very immature IMHO

1 upvote
Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Jun 6, 2012)

tooo many pixels on a small sensor.

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Torode
By Torode (Jun 6, 2012)

It's all subjective. I mean, the pixels are nowhere near as cramped as on many other P&S cameras.

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JackM
By JackM (Jun 6, 2012)

HUGE step in the right direction, but I wish it was 16 or 12mp for lower noise. I don't expect to print 20x30 from a point-n-shoot.

Nikon should do the same with their 1-series sensor.

Still waiting for the Canon S1X...

1 upvote
BorisK1
By BorisK1 (Jun 6, 2012)

You do know that a 20mp shot downsized to 12MP has measurably less noise and more DR than a native 12MP, right?

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JordanAT
By JordanAT (Jun 6, 2012)

By measurably less, you mean "visibly finer grained", and by more dynamic range you mean "less" right?

Given the same sensor technology, a smaller pixel will have lower DR and more noise. It's a game of photons and background noise. See: Nikon D4 vs D800. Given otherwise identical sensors, you should never choose a pixel count greater than your largest physical image.

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Torode
By Torode (Jun 6, 2012)

Of course, this has a larger sensor so the pixels will be larger than on, say, the 16MP Coolpix P510

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Gesture
By Gesture (Jun 6, 2012)

It's counter-intuitive no doubt. Simply don't believe the "image will be better when you downsize it" argument. Then, what's the point.

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BorisK1
By BorisK1 (Jun 6, 2012)

By JordanAT (3 hours ago)
> By measurably less, you mean "visibly finer grained", and by more dynamic range you mean "less" right?

Google "oversampling".

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marike6
By marike6 (Jun 6, 2012)

Why do the DPR RX100 Preview Body & Design images show a prominent Zeiss logo on the body and these product images show none?

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jun 6, 2012)

That is a very good question. None of my press stuff had pics with the logo on the front, very likely that DPR got first production run of the camera.

C

1 upvote
Jogger
By Jogger (Jun 6, 2012)

imaging resource has a full review up, their unit has the Zeiss logo too.. so, its probably a production model they are using

1 upvote
marike6
By marike6 (Jun 6, 2012)

When I see that Zeiss logo I think "expensive". But at 650 USD, it's pricey, but not Zeiss-pricey.

0 upvotes
JWest
By JWest (Jun 7, 2012)

Not Zeissy then?

1 upvote
D1N0
By D1N0 (Jun 6, 2012)

teeny weeny little sensor compared to the Konica Big Mini Fullframe compact. :p

0 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (Jun 6, 2012)

Pretty neat. I wonder how Canon is going to sell G1 X after that.
On the other hand, the price is too high against Olympus XZ-1 which can be had for $370 new, or it's successor in the 400-500 range (depending on how good it is).
Also, the zoom range is not wide enough.

3 upvotes
systemBuilder
By systemBuilder (Jun 9, 2012)

Olympus XZ-1 : Bad video, FAIL.

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JJJPhoto
By JJJPhoto (Jun 6, 2012)

I'm sorry, but someone at Sony suggested calling a new technology "WhiteMagic" and NOBODY said, "Hey, we probably shouldn't call it that?" Next from Sony, the new Sony VAIO laptop with "WhitePower" for extended battery life!

Comment edited 33 seconds after posting
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surfingringo
By surfingringo (Jun 6, 2012)

You, sir, have a very troubled mind. Don't kid yourself. You are part of the problem, not the solution.

8 upvotes
nekrosoft13
By nekrosoft13 (Jun 6, 2012)

surfingringo, very true, people like JJJPhoto are the true reason why this still continues.

1 upvote
roblarosa
By roblarosa (Jun 6, 2012)

Those Japanese white supremacists are sneaky.

3 upvotes
surfingringo
By surfingringo (Jun 6, 2012)

Ahhh hahahahaha...thank you Roblarosa. That was much needed!

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Nathaniel George Weir
By Nathaniel George Weir (Jun 6, 2012)

Racism

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MichaelEchos
By MichaelEchos (Jun 7, 2012)

Death Magic!

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