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Canon significantly improves EOS 7D with firmware v2

By dpreview staff on Jun 28, 2012 at 04:00 GMT

Canon has announced a firmware update that will add a series of features to the EOS 7D. In an unusual move for a camera that has been on the market for almost three years, Canon is performing the most comprehensive firmware upgrade we can remember. This includes improved continuous-shooting buffer depth (to 25 Raws, up from the original 15), customizable Auto ISO, control of audio recording level for video and the ability to re-process Raws and rate images in-camera. The update will also enable the use of the GP-E2 GPS module. It will be available from August 2012.


Press Release:

Enhanced with you in mind – Canon adds a range of new features to the EOS 7D

London, UK, 28 June 2012 – Canon today enhances the EOS 7D with firmware v2, adding a range of new features for enthusiasts looking to push the limits of their photography. Building on the camera's high speed, advanced handling and creative versatility, the new firmware provides photographers with a host of new benefits including higher maximum RAW burst rate, in-camera editing functions, user-definable Auto ISO and support for Canon's latest GPS Receiver, GP-E2.

Originally launched in 2009, the EOS 7D was carefully developed based on the feedback from thousands of photographers from across the globe. Offering the perfect combination of outstanding image quality and exceptional versatility across a range of photography styles, even today it is still considered to be one of the best APS-C cameras on the market. When developing the new firmware Canon followed a similar approach, gaining direct user feedback to bring the EOS 7D up to date with enhanced performance and a greater range of shooting capabilities and creative functionality.

Enhanced RAW performance

With an 18 Megapixel APS-C CMOS sensor, Dual "DIGIC 4" processors and an extended maximum ISO of 12,800, the EOS 7D offers fast, high-quality shooting at speeds of up to 8 frames per second. Thanks to the new firmware which adds powerful memory management algorithms taken from Canon's flagship EOS-1 series, photographers will now be able to enjoy greater flexibility in continuous shooting, with the maximum RAW buffer now extended to a new high of 25 RAW files or 130 JPEGs. Combining with the camera's high 18MP resolution and 14-bit image processing, this will allow photographers to capture the decisive moment with rich detailed images.

In-camera image editing and rating

A range of newly-added editing functions also gives photographers more control over how images look, allowing post-production to begin in-camera. Photographers can now process their RAW files and correct artefacts such as peripheral illumination, distortion and chromatic aberration. Additionally, adjustments to white balance, sharpness and Picture Style, as well as a host of other parameters, can now also be made immediately after shooting, with the results saved as new JPEG files. JPEGs can also be instantly resized, without the need for a PC or Mac.

Photographers can now easily filter large volumes of pictures on their way back from a shoot using an image rating facility. Image rating data is stored in each file's metadata, which can be read by a range of editing applications, including Canon Digital Photo Professional, and other industry software such as Apple Aperture, Adobe Lightroom and Bridge.

Extra control in stills and movies

The EOS 7D's new firmware provides extended versatility across both stills and movies. Newly-added control of Auto ISO enables photographers to limit the maximum ISO speed to any point within the native ISO 400-6,400 range. Offering greater control over exposure, this will enable photographers to customise the maximum automatic ISO speed to suit their personal preferences, or to adjust parameters in different situations to meet specific creative goals.

Improved audio functionality in movie mode also provides aspiring videographers with greater control while shooting videos. Users can complement the camera's Full HD (1920x1080p) movie footage with 16-bit digital stereo sound, sampled at broadcastquality 48KHz, and new manual control of audio levels allows users to choose from 64 sound levels. A digital wind-cut filter also reduces noise made by movement of air around the microphone, ensuring sound is clear and free from peripheral interference.

Track your travels with GPS compatibility

Firmware v2 also provides added capacity for users to track the location of their images with new support for the GPS Receiver GP-E2 – Canon's latest high-performance GPS unit. The GP-E2 is attached securely to the hotshoe, and connected to the camera via a cable, making it easy for EOS 7D photographers to geo-tag photos with longitude, latitude and altitude data as well as the direction in which the shot was taken – adding the information to the EXIF file of the image1. A GPS Logger tracks movements by downloading GPS data at regular intervals, and compatibility with Google Maps means users can easily view their route in Canon's free Map Utility software.

Firmware v2 will roll out across the region from August 2012.

Canon EOS 7D firmware v2 – new features:

  • Improved maximum burst for RAW images (up to 25)
  • In-camera RAW image editing
  • In-camera Image Rating
  • In-camera JPEG resizing
  • Maximum Auto ISO setting (ISO 400-6400)
  • Manual audio level adjustment in movie recording
  • GPS compatibility
  • File name customisation
  • Time zone settings
  • Faster scrolling of magnified images
  • Quick control screen during playback

Canon EOS 7D – Key features:

  • 18MP APS-C CMOS sensor
  • Up to 8fps shooting
  • ISO range up to 12800
  • Approx. 100% Viewfinder
  • 19 cross-type AF points
  • iFCL metering system
  • Dual "DIGIC 4" processing
  • Full HD movie recording
  • Integrated Speedlite Transmitter
  • 3" Clear View II LCD
  • Magnesium alloy body with environmental protection

Comments

Total comments: 296
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Jogger
By Jogger (Jun 28, 2012)

cant beleive the 7d is 3 years old.. time sure flies, eh

1 upvote
EDWARD ARTISTE
By EDWARD ARTISTE (Jun 28, 2012)

So about those AF issues...uh oh dont atttack me pleas, im just a victim :(

0 upvotes
Donnie G
By Donnie G (Jun 28, 2012)

Thank you Canon for making a great camera even better.

6 upvotes
Donnie G
By Donnie G (Jun 28, 2012)

Since everybody else is taking their best guess as to what's next for Canon DSLRs, here's my 2 cents; Replace the 5D Mk2 with a full frame plastic body version running DIGIC 5 and updated software. Bless it with an articulated vari-angle touchscreen, the hybrid phase/contrast detection video sensor, 7D equivalent autofocus, 4.5 fps burst rate, built in flash, one compact flash media slot, and make the camera compatible with the 5D Mk3's battery grip, and sell it for $1900 USD (body only). I'd buy it.

2 upvotes
Fred Briggs
By Fred Briggs (Jun 28, 2012)

Hmm... if they can increase the buffer from 15 to 25 with firmware then they are just giving users access to a capability that was in the hardware all along. You don't get that sort of increase by just tweaking a few software routines. In other words it seems the original hardware was crippled to offer no more than was deemed necessary at the time.

Apparently Canon have now decided to release a 7Dn in the form of a firmware upgrade, presumably because they don't feel the need to release a new model, or are not yet ready to do so.

I'm just surprised they are not charging for the upgrade - probably would if it were practical! This has happened quite often in the computer industry, where users would buy an upgrade only to find it just consisted of a firmware change which unlocked a capability which was already in the hardware.

Fred

1 upvote
Timbukto
By Timbukto (Jun 28, 2012)

Let me guess, you aren't a software developer.

8 upvotes
Fred Briggs
By Fred Briggs (Jun 28, 2012)

Well if you want to credit software developers with nearly doubling the buffer capability, then you also have to accept that the original software must have been incredibly inefficient ;-)

Comment edited 49 seconds after posting
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audijam
By audijam (Jun 28, 2012)

Fred, go to your car and take out all the doors, bumpers and trust me your car can run even more efficiently..

0 upvotes
tonywong
By tonywong (Jun 28, 2012)

Being inefficient isn't being crippled. You are seeing conspiracies where there are likely none at all.

Oftentimes developers are pressed to deliver something that is on a tight deadline, and they can and will choose the slower but safer method.

Given enough time they could use a faster but unproven method but who wants their 7D to crash in the middle of a shoot? Obviously the new firmware has been issued because Canon has faith that it works well now.

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (Jun 28, 2012)

I am a software developer and I do accept that original or old software can be inefficient. Ever play a launch title on a console platform. Ever compare that launch title to a high profile title near the end of that platform? Compare launch titles of a PS2 to some of the last games of a PS2. Do the same for Xbox 360, PS3, etc. Look at how many iterations Microsoft Windows has gone through to deliver a smooth browsing experience that you can do now do just as well on an ARM tablet with much less video power, a fraction of the RAM, and in less CPU cycles.

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Fred Briggs
By Fred Briggs (Jun 28, 2012)

Then it would no longer be a fully specified and functional car in terms of safety and comfort. Don't see how this example is relevant unless you're saying they removed some other functionality from the camera in order to increase the buffer?

I say the capability was always there but crippled, either by deliberate marketing decision, or by incredibly inefficient programming. I can understand some fine tuning giving a small percentage increase but not a near doubling.

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Fred Briggs
By Fred Briggs (Jun 28, 2012)

Regarding the arguments about games software getting better - yes I agree but this is a learning curve in writing for a new platform.

With the 7D it is not as if it is a brand new type of hardware for Canon. It is extremely similar to other cameras in the range. Canon's software developers must be very familiar with this plaform which has not changed that much, and seem to have no problems getting high buffer performance from the pro cameras.

Anyway, thanks to all for the interesting comments - perhaps we should agree to disagree and move on now.

Fred

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kelpdiver
By kelpdiver (Jun 28, 2012)

Fred, you're presuming the knowledge and capacity was there all along. But really, how many models prior to that were pushing that many pixels per second? At best only a couple of the 1 series, which might also sport larger buffers. Like with console gaming systems before the PS3, you can't rely on sending fixes all the time, so you have to put in reliable code, not pushing the envelope code. The other thing that has changed in the past 3 years is the performance of CF which enables different optimizations than available before.

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sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jun 29, 2012)

@kelpdiver

SD based APS-C cameras were doing close to it 2 years ago and we all know CF is generally faster than SD.

ie. the Pentax K-5 has a 23 shot RAW buffer.

So yes, large RAW buffers in non-pro DSLR's have been around for some time but it's still good that Canon released this FW update for existing owners even if it is a couple of years late.

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semorg
By semorg (Jun 28, 2012)

7D will either be discontinued as a model family or 7D II will be a full frame camera below 5D III to compete with Nikon's upcoming D600. Either way such a feature update via firmware update is Canon's way of closing the 1.6X crop 7D product family.

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audijam
By audijam (Jun 28, 2012)

is Nikon closing their 1.5x crop product family?....Nikon can go first then Canon will....NOT follow. LOL!

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EvokeEmotion
By EvokeEmotion (Jun 28, 2012)

Full frame 7D? No. Why wouldn't Canon just call it the 6D? Is Canon running out of numbers to use? Last I check, only 1, 5, and 7 have been used.

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audijam
By audijam (Jun 28, 2012)

why can't you guess a 3D? EOS 3 was one of the film camera equiped with Eye-Control and 45-point AF system...forget it...you probably have never used film before...why bother, right?

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semorg
By semorg (Jun 29, 2012)

I'm amused by the quick replies without much thoughts.

1 - it makes sense to keep single digit names (i.e 7D, 5D, 1D for full frame cameras)

2 - canon wants to produce something lower than the 5D as an entry-level full frame. It just makes more sense to stay at numbers higher than 5 since higher numbers are lower level cameras

3 - canon has been avoiding even numbers for single digit camera numbers. I guess maybe they don't want to do Canon 4, since in many asian cultures 4 sounds like death and is associated with death.

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mdennis
By mdennis (Jun 30, 2012)

If, and I think thats a BIG IF, it will be 1.3x.

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Ashley Pomeroy
By Ashley Pomeroy (Jun 28, 2012)

Wonder if they were jolted by those Magic Lantern chaps. Wouldn't it be great if they opened up the firmware, or at least gave developers a custom space to write in-camera applications (the raw processing one is a classic example)? And it's a shame they didn't develop the 5D MkII for an extra year; I surmise that there won't be a similar update for the 5D MkII 'cause it has less processing power. Makes it seem like a bit of a dead end in retrospect.

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Ruy Penalva
By Ruy Penalva (Jun 28, 2012)

Good news. I wish it could also have several raw files options (small, medium large) like 5DMKIII. Shooting so fast it can be placed as a photojournalism camera. The GPS module will help me tag photos abroad and abandon my GPS. I think Canon should add several in camera processing 5DMKIII has, including HDR.

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hobbit mob
By hobbit mob (Jun 28, 2012)

The 7D does have small (4.5mp), medium (10mp) and large (18mp) raw file options

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Ruy Penalva
By Ruy Penalva (Jun 28, 2012)

My fault, thank you, I have never noted that!

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Superka
By Superka (Jun 28, 2012)

Firmware 3.0 must add 4K video.

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KubrickFR
By KubrickFR (Jun 28, 2012)

Great !

That is definitely the kind of things that would make me switch from Nikon to Canon!
Extended hardware life, that's what it is, would be a fantastic plus!

2 upvotes
Eurodynamica
By Eurodynamica (Jun 28, 2012)

Good News: They are updating a 3 year old camera
Bad News: They are increasingly treading water whilst Sony, in particular, forges ahead.

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Jun 28, 2012)

Isn't Sony the new Pentax?

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (Jun 28, 2012)

Sony is the one who bought Minolta, now is buying part of Olympus, provides image sensors to most brands of compact cameras, most Nikon DSLRs, some Leicas, the new Pentax, and many others... That's a small part of their business.

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Ross the Fidller
By Ross the Fidller (Jun 29, 2012)

Sony might be 'forging ahead', but they aren't exactly without their own financial difficulties.

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rubicon
By rubicon (Jun 28, 2012)

I think thats a neat idea! I'd like to see a firmware update to my D200, I just enjoy using it and not ready to move up to a more expensive camera, and also to my D700, those are my two most used cameras. I had a friend who shot a 7D and I thought it was a great camera, and now its better without having to spend a "ton" of money to upgrade, nice going Canon.

Rubicon:

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JackM
By JackM (Jun 28, 2012)

dude... D200 had a lousy sensor, even when it was new.

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Deleted-pending
By Deleted-pending (Jun 28, 2012)

Obsolescence and Stupidity are sole products of your mind.

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laquila65
By laquila65 (Jul 2, 2012)

D200 has a CCD sensor, which is much-much better than the current CMOS sensors in every respect except the stupid high ISO, which I personally don't need. I own many cameras, old and new, and as far as picture quality goes, the D200 is my favorite one. My other cameras are Canon 600D, Sony Nex-5N, Panasonic LX5. The D200 and D80 are my favorite cameras and will be for as long as I can imagine. I also shoot film. Modern CMOS cameras are crap.

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NorCalAl
By NorCalAl (Jun 28, 2012)

I used to believe only Nikon improved existing cameras with firmware - it was one of my arguments to move from Canon to Nikon (HUGE MISTAKE BTW). Now Canon adds real functionality to the 7D. Sigh. Wish I could afford to move back. I miss my L lenses!!!

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Jun 28, 2012)

Sorry for your change, but don't ever regret the decision. I use multiple systems myself and they all have their quirks.

In regards to Canon updating firmwares, many have forgotten that it was Canon who 2 years ago did the massive upgrade to the 5DmkII in extending a whole slew of video options and functions. At that time it was a major gift from Canon. I think this firmware is similar but maybe not as major as that one was, but it's always welcome to see them do it.

Panasonic is one company that I see as being the leader of updates in firmware, while Olympus is far behind. Both approaches are different. Panasonic releases many updates for errors. While on the other hand Olympus only releases updates occasionally because it spent more time working out the bugs before initial release. So in perspective more firmware updates are not always better.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 28, 2012)

The 7D is still probably the best APS-C SLR on the market. So why release a new model until someone else makes a dangerous competitor? There may be some newer SLR with very slightly better image quality, but nothing comes that close in terms of a total package. I can see why Canon decided to just keep the current one alive for now.

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howardroark
By howardroark (Jun 28, 2012)

Because Canon wants to maintain demand for the 7D until the 7D Mark II ships. Keeping the price of the 7D stable, clearing out stock, and maintaining the retail price point of the 7D Mark II by adding some compelling features would be a great strategy for a camera announcement. Three years of the 7D and you think they'll use new firmware to keep it going for another year? Considering the state of APS-C sensors in Canon's lineup I really doubt they want to wait another year for their mid-range refresh.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 28, 2012)

Funny how people overstate the sensor quality differences. The Canon 18MP sensor is still a good sensor unless you create strange tests like taking picture of black rooms or pixel peep ISO 12800.

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Camera Nuts Jim
By Camera Nuts Jim (Jun 28, 2012)

I agree with your comments fully. No reason for this photog to switch out an abundance of Canon equipment for another manufacturer's.

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Reilly Diefenbach
By Reilly Diefenbach (Jun 28, 2012)

It's called the D7000, folks.

1 upvote
Mike Arledge
By Mike Arledge (Jun 28, 2012)

used to own it, can't crop without noise past ISO 400 in my opinion, it was not a bad camera, but the sensor was not its strong point

1 upvote
sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jun 28, 2012)

Now I've read it all.

Apparently sensor capability is no longer important in a tool primarily used for capturing images.

1 upvote
tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 29, 2012)

"Apparently sensor capability is no longer important in a tool primarily used for capturing images."

Where did you read that? I didn't say the sensor was not important. I said people overstate the difference. The Canon sensor is good, really good. It really only trails the newer sensors in shadow recovery noise. At high ISO it is right on par (go look at the comparison tools).

So you have a Sensor that is slightly trailing the leaders in when comparing extremes, but excels at everything else. It beats the D7000, K-5 and Sony A-77 hands down for AF and performance. So like I said, as a total package, it's still king.

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sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jun 29, 2012)

Even after this firmware update, the 7D auto-ISO options are still lagging it's peers and the rest of it is just to catch up with existing 2 year old bodies. Don't get me wrong though, it's good to see Canon do the right thing by their existing customer base no matter why they did it but....

What you're saying is that the body with the marginally better AF is king over the bodies with the marginally better IQ. Well what about a budget conscious landscape photographer for instance? Wouldn't they rather have a 5 shot EV bracketing options than class leading AF system?

It's just not as clear cut as you make it sound.

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HopeSpringsEternal
By HopeSpringsEternal (Jun 28, 2012)

Wow! Canon should be commended for improving the functionality of their 3year old DSLR. SONY which generally ignores its cameras once they are purchased should learn something from Canon. Firmware updates , especially those that respond to customer feedback are a key way to improve customer/owner satisfaction and prove that the Company is in it for the long haul.

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photoguy622
By photoguy622 (Jun 28, 2012)

So happy about the auto ISO maximum setting. The 7D is way too happy to use ISO 3200.

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AriDublyu
By AriDublyu (Jun 28, 2012)

A free upgrade to my camera, extending the utility of an already great investment. Makes me happy! I don't feel any need to look this gift horse in the mouth.

Thank you Canon!

6 upvotes
ryansholl
By ryansholl (Jun 28, 2012)

Only here would a company improving a 3 year old product receive so much criticism. You're a petty bunch of folks, dpr participants.

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Jerry-astro
By Jerry-astro (Jun 28, 2012)

Totally agree... what a bunch of whiners. Yes, we all would have loved even more improvements, but for Canon to break so dramatically with their tradition of not adding features in firmware is a big deal. What they have added will be very useful to many and one has to remember that the 7D pretty well remains the top dog in crop cameras these days.

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Takahashi
By Takahashi (Jun 30, 2012)

It is embarrassing, seeing so many whining non-Canon users stomp their feet in infantile hissy-fits, while ungrateful Canon owners bleat about getting a slew of improvements for nothing. Sad Pandas abound.

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Mirko123
By Mirko123 (Jun 28, 2012)

Did they introduce this firmware update instead of a genuine upgrade?
If thats the case, then what about improving noise and ISO performance?

Nice update, but in reality, this is all just fluff!

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polizonte
By polizonte (Jun 28, 2012)

Noise is more of a concern to me rather than any of the improved features -
still to update the firmware of an established camera is unique in the camera market.

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howardroark
By howardroark (Jun 28, 2012)

Functionality does not equal fluff. They added some useful and not so useful things, but they left out the fluff other camera makers who shall remain nameless constantly include in their cameras that are mostly clutter....digital knick knacks lying around in dusty corners of the camera.

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seilerbird666
By seilerbird666 (Jun 28, 2012)

Increasing the buffer from 15 to 25 shots is fluff???

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ptl-2010
By ptl-2010 (Jun 28, 2012)

Great for people who own the camera, but c'mon release the 7d mkII and the 70d already! I'm not about to buy a 3 year old camera when a new system should be just around the corner.

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kjbkix
By kjbkix (Jun 29, 2012)

The 7D is still a very capable camera, probably the best crop sensor camera available from a total performance perspective. You can find many available used or refurbished for not much more than a new 60D, and with this upgrade you get some of the features back that make the newer Rebels desirable. Don't hold your breath on a mkII, chances are it wouldn't be all that different anyway.

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Mr Fartleberry
By Mr Fartleberry (Jun 28, 2012)

Good for Canon. Something Nikon never did with the 4 year old D700.

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Jun 28, 2012)

My guess Canon was going to release a 7DII this year but had to scrap it and start over since Nikon is moving the $1500 price point to full frame. So to buy time they released this firmware update.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 28, 2012)

People are still buying that ridiculous rumor?

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Jun 28, 2012)

Yeah and that rumor of a 36 megapixel D800 at 4 grand was ridiculous too. We all know how that turned out. A $1500 D600 that can compete very well with the 5DIII would fit perfectly with Nikon's current strategy.

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ryanshoots
By ryanshoots (Jun 28, 2012)

Yup all the rumors missed the price on the D800. So why are the rumors correct on the D600 price? No way it is less than $1999.

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EvokeEmotion
By EvokeEmotion (Jun 28, 2012)

Since the rumors got the D800 wrong by overestimating it, what makes you think the rumors would underestimate the D600 this time?

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dopravopat
By dopravopat (Jun 28, 2012)

EOS 60D with ML offers still better functions than the new 7D FW. I wonder if Canon actually unlocked the 7D so ti will be able to run ML...

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polizonte
By polizonte (Jun 28, 2012)

As a owner of both brands, ML would be a very useful update for my 5Dmkii.

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dopravopat
By dopravopat (Jun 28, 2012)

ML runs on the 5D Mk II.

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Coopman
By Coopman (Jun 28, 2012)

I believe the issue with the 7D, regarding ML, is the dual Digic chips:

"...we do not know how to hijack task execution on the Master/Slave (2 headed) DryOS instances."

Not sure this update will change that.

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Hans Bolte
By Hans Bolte (Jun 28, 2012)

Come on you clowns! If you own this camera this firmware gives you free added features. What's not to like?

Don't like it? Sell your 7D or buy something else, I don't see Canon twisting anyone's arm to buy a 7D...

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Jun 28, 2012)

So, Canon removes video crop modes from the Rebel series with the T4i and fails to add it to the 7D via this firmware update. This is one of the two main reasons I never bought a 7D in the first place and the fact that they removed it from the new Rebel and not included it on the 5DIII may indicate they have dropped this highly-useful feature. Disappointing and ridiculous. I guess I'll keep my money.

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audijam
By audijam (Jun 28, 2012)

yeah you keep your money

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StephenSPhotog
By StephenSPhotog (Jun 28, 2012)

Our new knowledge of you not owning a 7D and why really enhances the conversation here. Thank you.

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garyknrd
By garyknrd (Jun 28, 2012)

Well they forgot about the birders for sure. With this it pretty much kills my hopes for a new high end crop sensor. I WILL NEVER BUY THE MK III period. I am going back to Pentax if they come up with a good new crop body. I kept my Sigma 500mm f4.5 lens and 300mm f2.8. Look's like and I cannot believe I am saying this. Canon 500 and 300 will be shelved until they come out with something.

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Hubertus Bigend
By Hubertus Bigend (Jun 28, 2012)

What did they forget regarding birders? What exactly is the 7D lacking? I'm asking because at this point in time, while still using Four Thirds gear but more and more often wondering what else I could use, I find the 7D and 60D perhaps the two most attractive bodies for my (amateurish) bird photography ambitions. (Other favourites at this time being the Sony A77, A65 and A57.)

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Cane
By Cane (Jun 28, 2012)

I believe they figure the birding crowd is in God's waiting room already, which is no way to plan your future.

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garyknrd
By garyknrd (Jun 28, 2012)

I changed from the Pentax K-5 not because of the sensor. It was way ahead of the 7D. Beautiful high ISO crops. Just amazing. The 7D was so far ahead on the AF that I switched. What is fixing to happen IMHO. Pentax is going to get the AF straightened out and put the latest Sony sensor that will pretty much be a huge upgrade to the 7D. So I will go back to Pentax if that happens. I will wait and see. I personally do not need the RAW burst. I will not buy any other lenses. I have 4 birding lenses. But if Nikon comes out with a new crop body with the innovations like the D800. That will make the people with the money and NEW birders and sports people to chose Nikon. Kinda interesting to see. Wait and see.. :)
www.flickr.com/photos/avianphotos

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Grrrippp
By Grrrippp (Jun 28, 2012)

I'm not convinced of the so called tele-advantage of an APS-C sensor.
I transitioned from a 7D to 5DII quite a while ago to never go back. Full frame does simply offer you another kind of image. The shallower depth of field enables you to isolate your subject a lot better from the background, the SNR is a lot better and there is still plenty of detail. While your lenses have no "built-in" 1,6 TC, you have more exposure headroom (slower shutter speeds due to the "shorter" lenses and images with less noise).
You can still crop while post-processing.
On APS-C, the sensor challenges the lenses in resolution anyway. At the center, the px spread is better on FF.

Not to mention,The 7D(a lemon?) I owned had a severe banding issue, with artefacts visible in shadows even at base ISO when pulling up the exposure in ACR. While I had noticed this before, I didn't bother too much, but as my current camera does not have this problem at all, it just hit me how much better the SNR is on a FF sensor.

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Esmee Farquhar
By Esmee Farquhar (Jun 28, 2012)

I believe what you got is a lemon, not a melon.

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Grrrippp
By Grrrippp (Jun 28, 2012)

Typo, my sitmake!

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Jun 28, 2012)

The two major wildlife clubs in my city, the majority shoot with the 7D already (probably around 60-70%).... I don't see how your opinion or think that this missed the 'birders' or true wildlife photographers out there. It was good for that application always.

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Bob Meyer
By Bob Meyer (Jun 28, 2012)

The only updates that make any real difference to me are the greater maximum number of images in raw burst and the ability to set a limit on auto-ISO. But to be honest, only rarely was the limit on raw burst a problem before, and only rarely do I use auto ISO.

I suppose the others will be useful to some, but I prefer to do my raw processing on a computer, rather than on the tiny display of a camera, I don't shoot jpeg or video much, and I can manage to change the time on my own if I need to.

I'm certainly glad Canon's supplied the update, but I'm certainly not blown away by it.

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AndyGoris1
By AndyGoris1 (Jun 28, 2012)

How about support for some of the new features in the 600EX strobe, like auto-filter color detect or 5 zones?

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AndyGoris1
By AndyGoris1 (Jun 28, 2012)

I meant 5 channels. I can't wait to install the update. Thanks, Canon!

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JackM
By JackM (Jun 28, 2012)

They should hire a new Japanese-to-English translator. "Higher Maximum Burst Rate"?? Since when is 8 > 8?

I don't see what the big deal is. I can count on one hand in 2 years with my 7D how many times 25 vs 15 shot buffer would have benefited me.

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (Jun 28, 2012)

So five times in two years you have missed a shot because the buffer was full. In the next two years you won't miss any. That's a benefit isn't it?

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JackM
By JackM (Jun 28, 2012)

sure, but it's not worth dancing in the streets like some people seem to be doing.

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Rob Bernhard
By Rob Bernhard (Jun 28, 2012)

[[sure, but it's not worth dancing in the streets like some people seem to be doing]]

As strange as this may seem, there are people in the the world that have photographic needs that are different than yours. I know, it sounds really crazy, but it's true.

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jto555
By jto555 (Jun 28, 2012)

Will there be anything for us 5D Mark ii users! The incease in the buffer sounds great!

Come on Canon, don't forget us 5D Mark ii users. I promise to buy a new Canon lens if you give us the same update!!! : )

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Chez Wimpy
By Chez Wimpy (Jun 28, 2012)

fix the banding... and I promise never to doubt them again!

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llamacide
By llamacide (Jun 28, 2012)

I suppose the only update for the Mk II is the new MK III ! But I'm with you, I'd love to see an updated firmware for the MK II... But not holding my breath.

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Jun 28, 2012)

Chez, the banding issue is more related to the RAW processors. I've found that if you use Capture One or DxOptics, the banding issues are either minimized or eliminated.

SilkyPix is also another one that does an amazing job of getting rid of that specific pattern issue.

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Jun 28, 2012)

jto555, there will likely be some minor updates, but when the 5DmkII went from firmware 1 to firmware 2, that was a pretty significant update (one they advertised in marketing). This is very similar to what they did for the 5DmkII. However I wouldn't expect much more than what you have in your 5DmkII now. The Firmware 2.x maximized the full potential of the processor, so getting more features is going to be minimum (like 60p video). There are spec sheets out there for the graphics chip they use on the 5DmkII and if I recall correctly, it is pretty much maxed right out.

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Ryan Gardner
By Ryan Gardner (Jun 28, 2012)

Anyone know if there has been a chinese clone of the GP-E2 yet? I like the idea of GPS logging, but don't like the idea of paying $300 for it...

Although the fact canon just basically doubled my RAW shooting buffer for free might make paying a premium for a GPS logger easier to swallow.

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MediaDigitalVideo
By MediaDigitalVideo (Jun 28, 2012)

Do we also get a new Instruction Manual :)) ?

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MediaDigitalVideo
By MediaDigitalVideo (Jun 28, 2012)

I think the EOS 7D features where limited by software. As some people also suggest a lineup model for 7D won't come soon. I think that too. Love my 7D. Will I ever use my 5D Mk II ?

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DavesMan
By DavesMan (Jun 28, 2012)

I think you will ;-) I also have 5D Mark II and 7D together. I still think about replacing Mark II with Mark III. But is the price of the upgrade (used Mk II selling price is very low now because "everyone" upgrades) worth it? Now I say NO. I will keep 7D for action shots, where I also can use 1.6 crop factor. And the Mark II is still great for studio portrait shots and landscape. And for such photos I do not need the AF of Mark III. BTW image quality of Mark III JPEGs really sucks. I know that many users will never shoot JPEGs with Mark III but nowadays I do so with Mark II and they are perfect usable... sharp, crisp, vibrant...

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howardroark
By howardroark (Jun 28, 2012)

And we wonder why 95% of the "news" is meaningless speculation by a bunch of blow hards. It's because our society is so bored that people have to draw conclusions based on nothing just to keep our 12 second attention span focused. Canon has done some big upgrades with firmware, just none quite this big (arguably). Enjoy the camera announcements when they happen if you actually need some new capablity. Otherwise, try not to suck as a photographer quite as much as you currently do instead. That's my plan. Happy shooting!

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jun 28, 2012)

BIG :)!

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ARTASHES
By ARTASHES (Jun 28, 2012)

The best replacement for 7D is 7D, I think Canon just can't do enough improvements over 7D to be able to replace it so they are making a major firmwear upgrade IMHO

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rondhamalam
By rondhamalam (Jun 28, 2012)

Low Iso Banding is worse ....................

the camera is useless

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Christoph v Ballmoos
By Christoph v Ballmoos (Jun 28, 2012)

In the hands of my mother, the 7D is an awful camera...

my statement is as useless as yours... give it up

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (Jun 28, 2012)

Must be trolling, someone couldn't write something that stupid and mean it.

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Turnip Chops
By Turnip Chops (Jun 28, 2012)

What an absurd comment.

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timnhou
By timnhou (Jun 28, 2012)

http://www.veoelmundo.com/5d-mk2-low-iso-banding-and-how-avoid-it

To understand if this a real problem. Understand heat before throwing your hands up.

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rondhamalam
By rondhamalam (Jun 28, 2012)

To sum up: Yes, banding exists in the ....... xxx

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mmcfine
By mmcfine (Jun 28, 2012)

I am greatly thankful for Canon on providing an update rather then coming up with a markII version. It just shows how the 7D was already ahead of it's time.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jun 28, 2012)

It just says, they haven't improved anything in several years.

On the other side, it is still better, than making 7D mkII which is equal to 7DmkI and selling it at double price. As they do now with 24-70 mk2.

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nicolaiecostel
By nicolaiecostel (Jun 28, 2012)

Or the 650D..

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Infared
By Infared (Jun 28, 2012)

Why no increase bracketing? Three brackets on a $1600 camera body is embarrassing.......

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Motagaly
By Motagaly (Jun 28, 2012)

totally agree

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Duncan Dimanche
By Duncan Dimanche (Jun 28, 2012)

Mr Scary......I've been waiting for Maximum auto ISO setting for too long. So stop bothering us with your useless comments.... At least tell us what you would have liked to be improved with your 7d (if ever u own one) and therefore making your comment useful for the rest of us.

I'm more than happy for the manual audio setting even though this should have been part of the first firmware.

Oh and i'm happy for that too: Faster scrolling of magnified images and Quick control screen during playback

So go out, shoot and chear up

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Joaquin_peme
By Joaquin_peme (Jun 28, 2012)

I am a 5DMKII user, and I am planning to keep my camera for a long, long time. Will 5DMKII users be left in the lurch? Do I have to buy a 5DMKIII to be able to use a Canon GPS unit?

That song by Aretha is on in my head now. Its title 'Respect' That's what I am asking for

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jun 28, 2012)

Canon: buy 5D mk3 and use GPS.
User: But it costs 1500 Euros more than mk2!
Canon: It must be insignificant for REAL Canon lovers.

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Higuel
By Higuel (Jun 28, 2012)

ABOUT TIME!!!

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MrScary
By MrScary (Jun 28, 2012)

What is the point in all this useless updates. Who on earth wants that high iso.all you'll get is NOISE & more NOISE, Pointless. We need LESS noise.
In Camera RAW image editing. Do we not waste enough time already when Chimping? Who the heck wants to do RAW editing in camera..NUTS!
GPS--Ah Ah, making it easier for D.Cameron and Buddies to track us...:)

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jun 28, 2012)

Exactly!

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Takahashi
By Takahashi (Jun 30, 2012)

"What is the point in all this useless updates. Who on earth wants that high iso.all you'll get is NOISE & more NOISE, Pointless. We need LESS noise."

Reading comprehension not your strong point then? The update enables the user to LIMIT the auto-ISO range, not extend the ceiling point.

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Jen Yates
By Jen Yates (Jun 28, 2012)

When Canon doesn't upgrade the firmware a bunch of little forum kids scream, wail and bang at the bars of their cot.

When Canon does upgrade the firmware a bunch of little forum kids scream, wail and bang at the bars of their cot.

When a bunch of forum kids scream, wail etc you'll get another bunch of forum kids screaming and wailing about the first bunch of screaming, wailing kids.

And so it goes on... and on... and on...

Nothing ever really changes.

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Higuel
By Higuel (Jun 28, 2012)

BEAUTIFUL Jen!!! :D

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sunhorse
By sunhorse (Jun 28, 2012)

So Jen, since you're into categorizing people, which of those bunches do you belong to?

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Jun 30, 2012)

Jen Yates is in a category of one. Oh, right, mustn't leave John out, so two. She brings joy and laughs to me and thousands more every day (and is a NY Times-best-selling writer, too. Beyond all that, I couldn't agree more with Jen about the childish attitudes being shown by some of the posters here. Engineers at Canon did the hard work of adding useful features to an older model, and people complain because they didn't get what they wanted. Childish. Canon didn't have to do this, but someone there decided it was worthwhile. Good decision, Canon. Thanks for the work, even though I don't benefit from this at all, not having a Canon. Oh, and thanks Jen and John, too. Hope you're getting through your ordeals with ease.

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Takahashi
By Takahashi (Jun 30, 2012)

Indeed. We'd better hope that camera MFRs don't read these comment threads, or they'll be thinking (quite rightly), "Why the hell do we bother?".

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nicolaiecostel
By nicolaiecostel (Jun 28, 2012)

Knowing Canon, I'm surprised that they don't charge for it. Also, this could mean that they have absolutely no new sensor ready in the near future, other than the 18MP (figures..), so they cannot release a succesor to the 7D (650D to 600D, anyone) because that would mean releasing the same camera, with the changes from this firmware. They are threading water for the moment, I'm curios what will be the answer to the 24 MP sony sensor already seen in sony and nikon .

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sunhorse
By sunhorse (Jun 28, 2012)

@nicolaiecostel

So Canon is doing right by their customers and you trash them? Also, it's pure conjecture on your part regarding their sensors. Would you care to cite some sources or is this something you dreamed up. No, Canon is not "threading" water.

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PaulCarlucci
By PaulCarlucci (Jun 28, 2012)

The optimist point of view on this is that Firmware 2.0 was their contingency plan for the performance changes in a 7D Mark II in case they were stuck with the same sensor again. The idea being that since they have a new sensor coming out they were able to push these changes to the current model, or at least push them out now so as to buy them more time to finish developing a new sensor.

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Thorbard
By Thorbard (Jun 28, 2012)

This is Canon, not Apple.

Canon has no history of charging for firmware updates, only a history of them being very, very rare.

I think this proves that Canon has no plans for a 7D Mark II any time soon and they feel that the 7D hardware is capable of competing with other manufacturer's new offerings. Great news for Canon's profit margins on a unit-by-unit basis.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jun 28, 2012)

@sunhorse
I trash them, because their updates are useless. They'd better do the important improvements.

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Takahashi
By Takahashi (Jun 30, 2012)

"They'd better do the important improvements."

Or what? You'll skweam and skweam and skweam?

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Klaus dk
By Klaus dk (Jun 28, 2012)

Sometimes you are just lucky. I bought a used 7D Sunday ;-)

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lightsculpture
By lightsculpture (Jun 28, 2012)

I definitely prefer this to the release of a new camera model with minimal upgrades, like the GF5 over GF3 or even the EOS 600D over the EOS 550D.

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Higuel
By Higuel (Jun 28, 2012)

100% RIGTH!!!! :)

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sir_bazz
By sir_bazz (Jun 28, 2012)

Looks a good thing for Canon 7D users.

In the past Canon would've just added a new screen to the firmware update and called it a new model. ie. the 20D -> 30D

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Felice62
By Felice62 (Jun 28, 2012)

Why doesn't Canon come up with extended AB range to 7/9 frames for better HDR experience?

Thay should have learned the lesson from Magic Lantern add-on..

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jun 28, 2012)

Cause that crap is for beginners only. People who buy 7D do not shoot in jpeg. Well, at least in theory.

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (Jun 28, 2012)

What has jpeg got to do with AB and HDR?

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jun 28, 2012)

Ah, sorry, I got it wrong. You have right, AB need to be extended. +/-2 stops it too small, but then they need to change the b/w and viewfinder displays.

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Higuel
By Higuel (Jun 28, 2012)

Zanton: thank you for informing 7D users that they can't/son't want to use jpg!!!

:/

sad

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Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Jun 28, 2012)

wow, that is a big upgrade. it probably means we wont get a 7D mk II anytime soon.

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For a few clicks more
By For a few clicks more (Jun 28, 2012)

Good comment Zafar !! They had planned the possibility of the comprehensive camera improvement with a firmware update during the development of 7D. Now it was time to pull the emergency arm. Update the firmware, save time and money instead of a new camera. Furhtermore, haven't they just come up with 650D which is enough for Canon and beginners ?

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Gasman66
By Gasman66 (Jun 28, 2012)

Anyone who finds this software upgrade package exciting really, really needs to get out more (or buy a 5D Mkiii).

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