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Nikon announces AF-S Nikkor 24-85mm F3.5-4.5G ED VR affordable full-frame lens

By dpreview staff on Jun 14, 2012 at 04:43 GMT
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Nikon has announced the AF-S Nikkor 24-85mm F3.5-4.5G ED VR, a comparatively affordable, stabilized, variable aperture standard zoom lens for full frame cameras. It comes as Nikon celebrates the sale of the 70 millionth Nikkor lens since 1933, and the 30 millionth silent-wave motor lens since the system's introduction in 1996. It's hard not to interpret the announcement as lending weight to the rumors of an affordable full-frame body, since it's hard to imagine large numbers of D800 owners using such a lens (with its recommended price of $599) as their everyday lens.


Press Release:

NIKON EXPANDS ACCLAIMED NIKKOR LENS LINEUP WITH THE ADDITION OF THE NEW 18-300MM VR ALL-IN-ONE HIGH POWER SUPER ZOOM LENS AND THE 24-85MM VR LENS

MELVILLE, N.Y. (June 14, 2012) – Today, Nikon Inc. announced the addition of two new lenses to the legendary NIKKOR lineup, the AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR and the AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR lenses. The new 18-300mm VR lens is a versatile and compact 16.7X all-in-one super zoom DX-format lens, while the new 24-85mm VR lens is an ideal standard zoom for any FX-format photographer. These optics were designed to meet the needs of all types of photographers, from those looking to capture everything from family outings to elusive wildlife and stunning landscapes. The new 18-300mm and 24-85mm lenses deliver the performance and superior image quality that photographers of all levels have come to expect from NIKKOR lenses whether capturing still images or HD videos.

To capture stunningly sharp images with excellent clarity and color reproduction or HD video that exhibits sharp critical focus with a dramatic depth of field, the new 18-300mm VR and 24-85mm VR lenses will empower photographers with a variety of exclusive core NIKKOR technologies. Both lenses are equipped with Nikon’s Vibration Reduction (VR) II image stabilization system which provides the equivalent of a shutter speed approximately four stops faster. The built-in Vibration Reduction will help photographers create blur-free images and video while shooting handheld and in challenging lighting conditions. Two focus modes, manual-priority autofocus (M/A) and manual focus (M), are easily selected in both lenses as well. When either lens is in manual-priority autofocus (M/A) mode, users will be able to instantly switch from autofocus to manual focus operation by simply rotating the focus ring, even during AF servo operation. Additionally, both lenses feature an internal focusing system, providing fast focus without changing the length of the lens while retaining working distance through the focus range, and Nikon’s Silent Wave Motor (SWM) technology designed to deliver fast, accurate and quiet AF performance. The lenses also boast Nikon’s Super Integrated Coating (SIC) which provides superb color reproduction, color consistency and reduced flaring.

“Whether a pro on assignment, a photo enthusiast or an indie cinematographer, all Nikon users appreciate and rely on the vast selection and reliability of NIKKOR lenses for all of their imaging needs,” said Bo Kajiwara, director of marketing, Nikon Inc. “The new AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm VR and AF-S
NIKKOR 24-85mm VR lenses are fully optimized to capture stunning images and videos while meeting the growing needs of photographers of all levels around the world.”

The NIKKOR 18-300mm VR Lens: Nikon’s Longest Focal Range

Building on the popularity and versatility of Nikon’s telephoto zoom lens lineup which includes both the NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 and 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 VR lenses, the new 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR lens is Nikon’s longest focal range ever, with an astounding 16.7X ultrahigh-ratio zoom range. The DX-format 18-300mm VR lens is surprisingly compact, lightweight and covers a focal range from wide-angle 18mm to super-telephoto 300mm, equivalent to a focal length of 27mm to 450mm in FX/35mm format. At the 300mm focal length setting, the lens’ large f/5.6 aperture enables photographers to shoot at faster shutter speeds with shallow depth-of-field. This new super telephoto zoom lens is ideal for taking stills when travelling and for all around general photography including landscapes, portraits and distant subjects. The 18-300mm lens is also excellent for recording HD video as it can be used for wide establishing shots, medium close-up shots and extreme telephoto sequences when the users want to separate the subject from the background.

The construction of the AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR lens consists of 19 optical elements in 14 groups with three Extra-low Dispersion (ED) glass elements that effectively minimize chromatic aberration, even at the widest aperture settings, and three aspherical lens elements that virtually eliminate aberrations at wide aperture settings. The new lens also incorporates a nine rounded blade diaphragm to help achieve a natural looking dramatic separation between subject and background.

The AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR also has a dedicated zoom lock switch which secures the lens barrel at its minimum length and will prevent the lens from sliding during transportation. Additionally, the 18-300mm VR lens is ideal for capturing close-ups with great detail, as it offers a 1.48 ft. minimum focusing distance at 300mm, as well as a maximum reproduction ratio of 1:3.2X.

The NIKKOR 24-85mm VR Lens: The Standard Zoom for FX Shooters

Ideal for photographers seeking an FX-format compatible standard zoom lens, the new AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR lens delivers sharp, crisp and high-quality images and can be assigned as an everyday walkabout lens. Covering the frequently used focal-length range of 24mm to 85mm, this lens is a great companion for any FX-format shooter and is ideal for shooting stills of landscapes, architecture, head and shoulder portraits, candid shots or group shots. For HD video shooters, the 24-85mm VR lens is a natural choice when filming landscapes, large groups of people or when wide field establishing shots or medium close-ups are needed. The 24-85mm lens is a great everyday lens that is compact, lightweight and easy to carry on any photo assignment or family adventure.

In addition to the lens’ built-in Vibration Reduction (VR) technology, the AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR lens features Auto Tripod detection which recognizes when the camera is mounted on a tripod, even during HD video recording, to help deliver specialized VR correction. The lens construction of the 24-85mm VR lens consists of 16 optical elements in 11 groups with one Extra-low Dispersion (ED) glass element, three aspherical lens elements and a seven rounded blade diaphragm.

Price and Availability

The AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR lens will be available at the end of June 2012 for the suggested retail price (SRP) of $999.95*. The AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR lens will also be
available at the end of June 2012 and will have a suggested retail price (SRP) of $599.95*. For more information on these new NIKKOR lenses and other Nikon products, please visit www.nikonusa.com.

*SRP (Suggested Retail Price) listed only as a suggestion. Actual prices are set by dealers and are subject to change at any time. Specifications, equipment and release dates are subject to change without any notice or obligation on the part of the manufacturer.

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muctim
By muctim (Nov 11, 2012)

Can we use Nikon Lens 18x300mm with Nikon Body D90 ? Thanks.

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keekimaru
By keekimaru (Aug 30, 2012)

Nikon 35mm f/1.4G AF-S FX SWM Nikkor Lens
I'm a wedding photographer who shoots in dark conditions often. This lens performs great in these conditions. I use this lens on a D3 body and the AF is good. It doesn't seem to be as fast at my zooms (24-70 2.8 or 70-200 2.8) but it's still pretty accurate when focusing in low light. The image quality is AMAZING. Certainly an upgrade from the older 35 f/2 version . Images has more contrast & are sharper. I also own the 24 1.4 G and I would say that the IQ on the 35 is about the same. Over all, I'm very impressed and satisfied with this 35

More Detail : http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0042X9LB0/tipfla-20

More Review : http://canonslr.babybi.com/detail.php?id_detail=Nikon-35mm-f-1-4G-AF-S-FX-SWM-Nikkor-Lens-for-Nikon-Digital-SLR-Cameras-id8&website=dpreview

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hlritter
By hlritter (Jul 8, 2012)

After more testing, I'm absolutely flabbergasted. In the corners, at the optimal(?) aperture of f/5.6 the new AF-S Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G lens simply blows away the new AF-S Nikkor 24-120mm f/4G at both 24mm and 85mm. The '120 produces severe smearing and chromatic aberration in the corners, while the '85 yields a surprisingly better image, not as good as the one from my AF-S Nikkor f/1.4G 24mm prime, but a heck of a lot closer to that image than to the one from the 24-120.

I wonder if my copy is defective. If it's in-spec, I see little reason to choose the '120 over the '85, given the above and what I described in my last post, the size and weight advantage, and the cost saving of more than half. You'd have to need to spend a lot of time between 85 and 120 mm to justify the disadvantages of the '120.

Next: compare the new 24-120 with the old.

I'll be sending this lens to Nikon USA for evaluation. If there's no defect, I'm returning it.

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hlritter
By hlritter (Jul 7, 2012)

I used the old 24-120 VR for walk-around on my D700, but when the D800 came out, after the new gold-banded 24-120 VR became available, I got both. Now, this combination is of daunting mass and volume, so I decided to consider the new (but non-gold banded), much smaller and lighter 24-85 VR, as I rarely use the extra focal length of the 24-120. I received this lens just yesterday, and after reading the opprobrium heaped on this poor little lens in this forum, I ran some tests of my own.

The results at 85 mm are surprising. At mid-apertures, the central-zone performance is barely distinguishable from that of the new 24-120 at 85 mm. There is very slightly less resolution and contrast--viewed at on-screen magnifications that begin to visualize individual pixels in the image. Even more surprisingly, at the edges near the corners, the ONLY difference I can see is slightly more chromatic aberration in the 24-85.

Next, a test at other FLs and out to the corners. Stay tuned.

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arvine
By arvine (Jul 5, 2012)

Munro: I didn't know Nikon had an approved lens list for their various cameras. The D800 works well with all the Nikkor lens I've tried on it, ie: 70-200vr, 50 1.4G, 35-70 2.8D and most recently the 85 1.4D which produced some excellent baby pictures in a hostipal room with and without flash at f2 aperture. I read that the new 24-85 vr lens was introduced for use on a new D600 camera to be introduced in the near future. The new 24-85 lens may not be one of their gold ringed pro lens, but the one I have works well on my D800 and my D3200.

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ADMint
By ADMint (Jul 6, 2012)

munro is obviously here to trash the lens no matter the performance. I guess he'd of felt better if it was $6000 bucks instead of $600 bucks; maybe then he could have looked past its perceived flaws.

Anyway I'll be getting this lens next month as my everyday lens for my D800.

Later.

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jul 4, 2012)

Good to hear! I have an old 24-85 EOS lens I use on my 1Ds MkII and there's nothing wrong with it either, so I am hoping and praying a good Nikon equivalent can be had!
Over here they are charging far too much £519. I should be a lot less. Everyone is madly hiking prices here- and of secondhand gear to match new price rises-disgusting- like the banks!!

What puts me off if the published images from the sites I listed earlier. They really are dreadful, so I think its pure chance you have been lucky, but it should not be like that. All these lenses should be designed for the D800 sensor, but Nikon whom I phoned here do NOT recommend their own full-frame lens on their own full-frame camera... "you can buy it if you like, but I think you will be disappointed" was what I got when I asked. They recommend only their own list for the D800, and they have not put this new lens-produced AFTER the D800!!!! on that list.

Like God creating Woman and telling Man the design is not for children!

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arvine
By arvine (Jul 4, 2012)

I must have a good copy of the Nikon 24-85mm vr lens. It worked well on my D3200 in the store, no stiffness of the zoom ring or other problems, and it works equally well on my D800. The photos are clear and sharp with good saturation. I have many AFS nikkor lens that I use on both cameras. I'm not a pro, just an advanced amateur who strives for sharp photos with good glass. The lens is light weight and will make a good walk-around lens on either camera.

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jul 4, 2012)

Arvine makes an odd claim. He says he tried it on a D3200 instore, although he says he has a D800 at home.

Well you just dont do this. Of course its as sharp as a 24-70mm on APS-C. And I told you how bad a 24-70mm f2.8 actually is outside the central area (i.e.where APS-C sensors sense), so the claim now is that its fine on full-frame, contrary to the samples I listed-all of which are poor-hardly any fine detail.....

But nobody tries a lens they want to use on full-frame on a D3200 and buys it and takes it home, so I'd say this troll is from the Hall of the Mountain King (Mt. Fuji?)

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John Groothoff
By John Groothoff (Jul 4, 2012)

Anyone having problems with this new Nikon 24-85mm VR regarding the stiffness of the zoom ring? I got a copy from B&H and am sending it back because the zoom is too stiff -way more than any previous lens from Nikon I've purchased. Nikon advised me to exchange the lens for a new one as it should not be uncomfortably tight. Admittedly I tried the lens on a D3100. It's much more uncomfortable on the D3100 than a bigger body like my D7000. Camera heft matters with this lens as it's meant for FX. I liked everything else about the lens. Some say stiffness is a good thing as it retards lens creep and probably will loosen a little over time. That said, I still think my copy was way too stiff while trying to zoom. Any comments would be welcome.

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arvine
By arvine (Jul 3, 2012)

I bought the 24-85 vr lens today and while in the store compared it against the nikon 24-70. I took multiple pictures with both lens of the same subjects inside and out of the store on a new nikon 3200 camera. To my surprise and that of the salesman the 24-85 lens was just as sharp or sharper than the 24-70 and produced prictures that looked just as good as far as color and saturation. The 24-85 is sharper at 85mm than at 24mm. But 24mm was just as good as 24mm on the nikon 24-70 lens. I bought the 24-85 lens, brought it home and tried it on my D800 with very good results. This lens is a keeper. Dave

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jul 2, 2012)

It comes in an eggbox plastic holder inside a thin card box, I believe, all the way from China, which gives us an idea of how little Nikon care about us now. I am unable to find a standard zoom for a full-frame Nikon and contemplate returning mine because I rarely use primes now. I feel cheated, completely frustrated as I know I should be able to get great results with a D800, and cannot.

This new design is deliberate- they do not WANT to satisfy you, obviously. The fact that this with Zeiss is the globe's most respected lens manufacturer is depressing. Might as well use an iPhone.

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jul 2, 2012)

Nikon France post good full size samples on their Flickr site- the same images Nikon UK have small (only) on their promo site.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nikonfrance/with/7371253020/#photo_7371253020

There is also a review on a japanese site:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/review/lens_review/20120702_544150.html

which is again at full size. I suggest you download the wire fence at 70mm and any 24mm sample and the tanker in front of the terminal. They are quite dreadful, and if you look at the France Flickr ones they also fail-nothing is sharp in the bouquet of flowers-and its only on a D4.

I cancelled. I phoned Nikon. Nikon do not recommend this lens on a D800. And that means any full-frame camera as a sharp lens is a sharp lens. Nice photographs on Flickr, but get them in View or Lightroom and lighten the shadows to what we ourselves see and, contrast gone- as with the japanese samples, the resolution is poor

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ADMint
By ADMint (Jun 28, 2012)

Lense is out. Just saw it on Amazon and was going to get it, but decided to wait for a couple of reasons, one being I have to get a boatload worth of software already, 2, to see how it actually performs since I already have the older AF-S 24-85 3.5-4.5D.

Though my itchy fingers is ready to pull the trigger because of VR2 :)

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JakeB
By JakeB (Jun 28, 2012)

I genuinely do not understand posters who say they own or will own a Nikon D800, a camera capable of medium format camera resolution, and then are not willing to spend the money on Nikon's optically best zooms.

While digital cameras today are much more than the black boxes of the old film days, the advice to put the money into the glass still holds true.

An optically superb lens will ALWAYS be an optically superb lens. The camera's tech, however, will quickly be outpaced by the next generation.

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ADMint
By ADMint (Jun 28, 2012)

Just because one owns a D800 does not mean they have to have to most expensive lenses to create works of art. This can also be applied to the D800, but....

Anyway if we look at the cheaply built 50mm 1.8D we see it performs way above its spec's for a fraction of the cost compared to the 50mm 1.4G. My point? You don't need to spend thousands of dollars to get a good performing lens.

The book has yet to be written on the new 24-85 so, but from initial reactions here, and elsewhere, most people seem enthusiastic about its release because….

1. It’s inexpensive
2. It’s an all-round lens.
3. The now discontinued AF-S 24-84mm 3.5-4.5G was also a good performing lens. (I currently have one)

While I do agree with your statement about superb lenses, it doesn't always have to be at a high price. Sometimes you just get one of those lenses that come together... example the 50mm 1.8D.

Hopefully the new 24-85 falls into that category. We’ll see.

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Vortexetrov
By Vortexetrov (Jun 27, 2012)

Hmm not bad, but with this price I'd go for the Nikon mount version of Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC, this gives a bit bigger bokeh and fix 2.8 in the entire zoom range is also an advantage.

There's one nonexisting Nikkor which I could imagine, the 27-70 2.8 II with VR. But I'm still dreaming :) (sadly)..

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wy2lam
By wy2lam (Jun 23, 2012)

This might become my standard lens!

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (Jun 21, 2012)

get

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jun 20, 2012)

In the States it is cheap, only three hundred and eighty two pounds. In the home of the pound it costs five hundred and nineteen pounds

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 20, 2012)

By now, DPR should realize that people read everything literally. This is how Fuji's "within tollerance" remark became "They say it's normal and they are not going to to anything about it". (They then went on to design a new sensor). Saying that D800 users might not be happy with a $600 lens obviuously meant to imply that OEM zoom lenses in this price range are not going to get the most out of 36mp. And looking a the MTFs, that's the case. But this new 24-85 could still be a fun, more than adequate lens for many applications, especially if you stop down and (I'm assuming, here) stay away from the corners at 24mm. For example, the Tamron 28-75 that everyone raves about really isn't that great on full frame but it's good enough for many uses.

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Sad Joe
By Sad Joe (Jun 20, 2012)

Comment: it's hard to imagine large numbers of D800 owners using such a lens (with its recommended price of $599) as their everyday lens made by DP Review - NOT SO!

Wedding last weekend (we do wedding cars now having been professional wedding photographers for many years) their professional was using a Nikon D4 with a crappy old SIGMA zoom lens - so this cheapie new Nikon lens would be a real step up!

As we have time on our hands we watch the new breed of professionals from a distance - we never comment as its the couples wedding and we would not wish to upset them on their special day - BUT - some tips for checking out if their real pro's or not:

1: Expensive camera - but its clear that they only know how to fire the shutter and take 12 shots of everything
2: They check the screen after every shot
3: They fiddle with their flash just in case its died on them between shots
4: The camera must NOT get wet or even damp - a tiny drop of rain kills cameras such as a Nikon D4 - NOT!

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OzK
By OzK (Jun 22, 2012)

Ahh--- but with the new sony's like the A77 you don't have to look at the screen every shot as you have a preview appear immediately in the viewfinder!

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jun 19, 2012)

And it has a metal mount. I phoned Nikon UK and checked, and if you have complaints about resolution you can send it yourselves to them to be checked.
If the MTF is released it should be relatively easy to see if its alright.

I suggest you read Photozone's reviews and judge for yourselves, because the 24-70mm f2.8 (see the APS-C review), has serious "issues."

THe second one sent to Nikon PASSED their assessment and it was dreadful at 24mm regardless of aperture. Fringing is very bad on that lens, and I just hope and pray they have realised that a lot of people still use film Nikon cameras, and are stuck with red and green stripes over everything with their £1200 24-70mm f2.8 Nikkor.

Remember there is always the Tamron which reviews better than anything around, but is as yet unavailable in a Nikon mount. F2.8 VR.

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jun 19, 2012)

No this is a full-frame lens. If it is sharp as Nikon claim it is and lacks the field curvature that wrecks high-end 24-70mm f2.8s, then it is possibly the BEST D800 lens for everyday use, because as high iso performance is very good on a D800, we should be able to manage in all but dim British winter light, and then you can just use a standard lens.

It is designed for full frame and it is released AFTER the D800, not the D3 or D700, so Nikon reckon it must be excellent on the D800.

"Since its hard to imagine large numbers of D800 owners using such a lens as their everyday lens" is someone in Dpreview opining, not Nikon at all.

As it is VR and designed for video use as well, if you do not want the 24-120 f4 or the 28-300mm VR lenses because they are huge slow and impractical, just possibly Nikon have wised up to reality and released what everyone already uses anyway!! Only better.

It had better be good at that price with a mere 10 year life.

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JakeB
By JakeB (Jun 28, 2012)

The Nikon 24-70 f2.8 produces superb bokeh at f2.8.

The "field curvature" at 24mm on the 24-70 can be corrected with one click in programs like Lightroom.

It's wishful thinking to believe a consumer lens like this could compete across the wide range of advantages a good pro lens has.

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Tom Goodman
By Tom Goodman (Jun 19, 2012)

So, it's come to this. A six hundred dollar lens is announced and immediately bears a caution label warning "serious" photographers using D800's to stay away. Indeed, the camera/lens manufacturers have replaced the pixel scam with the glass scam. Buy this top of the line camera but don't even think about putting on a lens that costs less than $xxxx. Sure, our new super-duper sensor can produce awesome results, but only with the most expensive glass. Anything else and we take no responsibility for blurry images.

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ADMint
By ADMint (Jun 28, 2012)

Well said my friend. Well said.

BTW this D800 owner intends to get this lens as I'm already using the now discontinued AF-S 24-85 3.5-4.5G as an everyday lens.

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drmrbrewer
By drmrbrewer (Jun 19, 2012)

So if this is going to be paired with the D600 in a kit, then presumably anyone who is tempted both by this lens and the D600 will be holding back on buying the lens and instead getting it cheaper as part of a kit?

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Curt Geiger
By Curt Geiger (Jun 18, 2012)

This guy seems quite pleased with the 24-85! ;)
http://www.flickr.com/groups/nikondigitallearningcenter/discuss/72157630065573047/

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jun 18, 2012)

There IS a problem with these new Nikkor formulas, and that is that they are using them to wreck standards optically. If you can use software to get rid of the fringeing, you can make and sell an inferior lens. I was staggerred by my experience with two 24-70mm lenses recently, and I have also owned, and had to return a 14-24mm, also bought new.

You cannot use depth of field at all on either lens. You cannot even set the distance and use manual focus accurately, because the distance scales in the windows are too limited and the "throw" for focussing is way too narrow. You would have thought that with wide-angle zooms Nikon would simply have had the sense to create a big long detailed focussing and depth of field scale as the manual focus lenses all have. They could, but they do not and they use PLASTIC mounts now, and this limits what you can safely use these things on
(implying light plastic DX bodies-not full-frame.)

They are committing suicide, it really is not at all funny..

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (Jun 18, 2012)

Low end FF body coming ??

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (Jun 18, 2012)

Well, the old 24-85mm was quite a good lens, but not well-made. The new one comes with a health warning-like all other modern lenses it will stop working after 10 years or so (hence the ^10^logo) because the tin solder will grow whiskers short-circuiting itself. But, that applies to the 14-24mm, the 24-70mm (a crap lens at 24 and loads of fringing at 40 as well as 24) and the 70-200mm f2.8 VRII.

I'd much rather have and use this 24-85mm because if sharp (and the 24-70 is NOT outside the middle - at least the two I bought this year were not, and had to go back), it is really nice and handy. My Canon 24-85 IS sharp all the way through, so Nikon have no excuse!!!

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Steve69
By Steve69 (Jun 18, 2012)

Just pre-ordered one from Amazon for my D700. They say it should ship on June 29th. Meanwhile I am looking now how eBay prices are going down on previous versions of this walk-around lens...

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Joe Bowers
By Joe Bowers (Jun 17, 2012)

It's a kit lens for FF. 24-85mm on FF is basically the crappy 18-55mm that comes bundled with every APS-C.

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h0tsauce
By h0tsauce (Jun 17, 2012)

Cept for the fact that the 18-55 doesn't have ED and has a max aperture of F5.6. I'd say that this lens is far from crappy. I can see the D600 selling for $1999/body, $2399/kit. I'd be happy with that.

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SiliconVoid
By SiliconVoid (Jun 18, 2012)

It has always baffled me how many people dismiss a lens simply because it is available with a camera (a 'kit' lens).. as well as being available separately of course. There are numerous higher end lenses that have been sold through packaging with certain camera models..

Specifically for Nikon, it isn't whether it can be purchased with a body - it is the specifications. The 24-85 (both old and new models) is a one stop variable aperture lens - that is in Nikons 'mid-tier' lens range, a far cry from the light weight flimsy plastic mount multiple-stop "kit" lenses...

On a side note: Nikon is no different than Canon in regard to bundling a lens with a camera. It is the tier of the body that should give you an indication of the level of lens you might be getting. Nikon is not going to market an upper-end body they want consumers to like with a 'pos' lens.

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RoccoGalatioto
By RoccoGalatioto (Jun 16, 2012)

Nikon should be ashamed of themselves for even considering a plastic mount.
Ridiculous.

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friedbrains
By friedbrains (Jun 17, 2012)

where did you get the info of plastic mount?

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 17, 2012)

you can see it on the photos ? ^^

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friedbrains
By friedbrains (Jun 17, 2012)

i can see the photo alright, but i have read somewhere where they said it is metal, and the photo is not very conclusive, i think all the old 24-85 were all metal, hence hard to believe this is plastic, in any case we shall see...

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Constantin Firescu
By Constantin Firescu (Jun 17, 2012)

http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Camera-Lenses/2204/AF-S-NIKKOR-24-85mm-f%252F3.5-4.5G-ED-VR.html#tab-ProductDetail-ProductTabs-Forum

IT IS MADE OF METAL.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 17, 2012)

A $600 lens will not have a plastic mount. This should be obvious. But why wait to evaluate a lens until it is actually available, right? Even Nikon's cheapest 50mm 1.8 at just over $100 has a metal mount.

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pc168
By pc168 (Jun 18, 2012)

Plastic mount ... no way !

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SiliconVoid
By SiliconVoid (Jun 18, 2012)

All you are seeing it the plastic flange for the signal pins (something that is plastic on almost every Nikon) you can't even see the mount in the picture...

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Wubslin
By Wubslin (Jun 16, 2012)

Plastic mounting. Variable maximum aperture. Unreadable focusing scale. Ineffective VR. Ridiculous over-complicated optical formula to try and compensate for their inability to design a sharp lens. FAIL.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 16, 2012)

Thank you. You know, we wait forever for DPReview to test lenses so it's helpful to have someone perform the tests on sharpness and VR before the lens becomes available. By the way, how are your shots from the D900 looking?

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Wubslin
By Wubslin (Jun 16, 2012)

I'm flattered. But I know what to expect from all the other Nikon lenses, so it's not exactly a radical prediction that this one will also be a failure.

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dgc4rter
By dgc4rter (Jun 17, 2012)

Yes, I've just taken a look at your other posts trashing Nikon. Use Canon by any chance?

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Wubslin
By Wubslin (Jun 17, 2012)

Canon is the market leader. That's all there is to it.

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Joe Bowers
By Joe Bowers (Jun 17, 2012)

That must mean that McDonalds makes the most delicious food.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 17, 2012)

canon has 250k employees and nikon around 15k, just because they can produce more crap for less price, doesn't mean that they are superior in any way. canon isn't even a photo company, they just do it because it brings money. nikon is an optical/microscop manufacturer from the beginning.

and if you use a canon next to a nikon, you can easily see who has actual photographers in their company and who has a lot of marking guys designing camera bodies :)

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dgc4rter
By dgc4rter (Jun 17, 2012)

Canon user slags off Nikon in an attempt to alleviate his feelings of inadequacy. That's all there is to it!

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 17, 2012)

Most of my stuff is Canon. I even have the dreaded, overpriced 5D3 (very nice, BTW). But none of this leads me to predict a Nikon lens that isn't very expensive will be poor, especially since it's slow. Seems to me, this prediction business can be tricky. For instance, one might logically assume the 17-40 L lens was spectacular because, well, it has an L on it. But it's lousy and thankfully, that doesn't tell you anything about the other L lenses.

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dgc4rter
By dgc4rter (Jun 16, 2012)

Just pre-ordered this as my walkaround lens for the D800. Absolutely ideal for that role.

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jerry367
By jerry367 (Jun 16, 2012)

I guess I need this for my new D800

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camerosity
By camerosity (Jun 16, 2012)

Wow, that 24-85mm VR seems like a real winner. I'll definitely buy one when it becomes available! Thanks Nikon! You never fail to please.

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bobbywong1968
By bobbywong1968 (Jun 15, 2012)

well done, Nikon,

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Aleo Veuliah
By Aleo Veuliah (Jun 15, 2012)

Nikon is doing some good and nice lens, well done Nikon, lens are everything (almost)

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AmateurSnaps
By AmateurSnaps (Jun 15, 2012)

As the article said this seem to make it as clear as they are willing - we will be seeing a 'budget' full frame camera.

As their are rumours that Canon are also looking at this the choices just get better and better. Next Sony ?

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Caleido
By Caleido (Jun 16, 2012)

The pictures of the D600 are already out there.

That said, this looks like a fine lens. Although I already have a good 28-105mm f3.5-4.5 walk-around lens... if this lens is any good as my first Nikon AF-S lens - the 18-70mm on my first DSLR couple of years ago - it's a gem.

Price will drop, I'm sure.

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ChrisPee
By ChrisPee (Jun 15, 2012)

Hey Nikon, I'm waiting for decent lenses for my Nikon V1.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 15, 2012)

hahahaha you bought that ?^^

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SleeperSmith
By SleeperSmith (Jun 19, 2012)

Rofl, agreed. Your a moron for buying V1 in first place.

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JK5700
By JK5700 (Jun 19, 2012)

I did. It is a very competent second camera for when a DSLR is too bulky. Don't knock it until you have tried it fr a while. I was also very sceptical at first, but now love it. Just looking for a 1.4 or 1.8 lens for it.

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TTran510
By TTran510 (Jun 15, 2012)

I'm a Canon shooter but if the rumor of D600 specs and price are correct, I'm switching over to Nikon. The D600 and the new 24-85mm VR + a 50mm 1.8g would be perfect for my needs.

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AkinaC
By AkinaC (Jun 15, 2012)

And Canon probably will have one as well, I think it's better to wait after photokina....

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TTran510
By TTran510 (Jun 15, 2012)

I'm sure Canon will have a similar model but I hate how they price their new products with minor changes to the sensor. I will wait for both reviews to come out before deciding.

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Joe Bowers
By Joe Bowers (Jun 17, 2012)

5 of the top 10 cameras in the world are Nikon. Zero are Canon. This is DXO ratings, not just my personal opinion.

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SleeperSmith
By SleeperSmith (Jun 19, 2012)

"And Canon probably will have one as well, I think it's better to wait after photokina...."

Rofl, yeah I'm sure Canon will have one just like they have 1Dx. Oh wait... it's still not out 10 months after announcement LOLOLOLOL.

These fanboys are hilarious. Please stop fantasizing over camera models that doesn't exist.

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NeilJones
By NeilJones (Jun 15, 2012)

I refuse to put a cheap lens like this on my D800! Sorry!

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pepelegal
By pepelegal (Jun 15, 2012)

would it be OK if I sell you one for 1,600 USD?

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SteveMuc
By SteveMuc (Jun 15, 2012)

What an absurd comment. Is anyone forcing you to? Why didn't you just say, "Na, na, na naa na. Look at me, I've got a D800."

Thanks for apologising though.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 15, 2012)

come on he is right^^

a zoom ?
with this lens speed?
on a decent camera ?

come on hehe

cheap is not always about the pricetag

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Jun 16, 2012)

I sympathize. Being seen with a D800 and a $600 lens would be downright gauche.

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pepelegal
By pepelegal (Jun 17, 2012)

I would sympathise too, except we are not talking about fashion accessories.
At least I am not.

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Joe Bowers
By Joe Bowers (Jun 17, 2012)

The $600 price tag is not the problem. The 50mm f/1.4 costs that much or less and I bet plenty of people have those on their D800s. The price isn't the problem, it's the aperture and build quality that make me want to avoid it.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 17, 2012)

joe bowers : EXACTLY !

the 50 1.8D is a cheap plastic lens that goes for 200€ and i would take that lens over this crappy zoom ANY DAY !

50 1.4D is on my private camera 99% of all times and its less than 50% of the zooms price tag.

don't you get it guys ? its about the optics not the prize ^^

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SiliconVoid
By SiliconVoid (Jun 18, 2012)

You do realize that the 50mm you are praising so highly is a plastic lens, and therefore limited as well in its maximum build quality...

Owning both the 50mm/1.4 (D and G) and the older 24-85G, I can tell you that the build quality is not that far off. The only real complaint I have with the 24-85 is the focus ring - and that is by comparison, not on its own merits. While generally smooth, it is not as dampened as I would like.

As for aperture, well 4.5 isn't all that fast at 85mm but not terrible either. No one said you should replace your fast primes with it, geez. If you are going to even judge a lens purely on that bases then even the 24-70/2.8 is a pos compared to the 50mm/1.4.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 18, 2012)

yep as is said, its about the lens not the prize and not the plastic housing. its about being a 24-85 zoom with f3.5-4.5 on a 3k FF body

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Anfernee Cheang
By Anfernee Cheang (Jun 15, 2012)

I can understand the purpose of 24-85, but I don't understand why it is not 24-85/F2.8-4. In my point of view, the old 24-85/F2.8-4 is far better than the old 24-85/F3.5-4.5, in all aspects such as sharpness, color, speed, and the unique 1:2 macro mode.

The only work Nikon needs to do is to improve the coating of the glasses, and add SWM. That's it! Why not, Nikon?

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Guidenet
By Guidenet (Jun 15, 2012)

The old 3.5-4.5 was AFS and this new one adds VR. You can't add the additional optical elements that make VR without redesigning the optical formula. The difference in speed is a lousy half stop which doesn't add to a hill of beans.

The point being is you can't just add something like VR to an existing lens and still have the same lens. This is a good mainstream lens that will probably be the kit lens for upcoming entry level and/or enthusiast level FX camera bodies. I suspect, in the long term, there to be both. With the cost to manufacture FX sensors falling to the same range of DX sensors, I think we can expect this to be most of the market eventually.

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user_name
By user_name (Jun 15, 2012)

No, the old 24-85 F3.5-4.5G lens is an FX lens.

My initial test on my D800 shows that it is a little soft and the contrast was not as good as my 50mm F1.8G, but it definitely is an FX lens.

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RDMSguy
By RDMSguy (Jun 16, 2012)

Where at exactly did Guidenet say it wasn't an fx lens?

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kewlguy
By kewlguy (Jun 14, 2012)

Just what the mainstream users need...good job Nikon!

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abell2000
By abell2000 (Jun 14, 2012)

that sounds as a great all around travel lens, good thing I didn't buy 18-200 last year :) some may say that tamron 18-270 is better but even though it is lighter and shorter then nikor but considering no manual focus override, almost unusable focus ring and decreasing focal length on long end of tamron nikor lens seems as much much better choice unless you solely rely on autofocus all the time

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 15, 2012)

the 35 f2 is a good travel lens

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abell2000
By abell2000 (Jun 16, 2012)

I actually tried to use 35 f1.8 as a main leans during my travels but had to switch back to 18-105 because shooting small streets at night without tripod or vr is almost impossible task

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 17, 2012)

wow taths something, you choose a mega zoom with VR over a super fast prime ? in the night ? because of low light ?

W O W ! ^^

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cottagegym
By cottagegym (Jun 18, 2012)

This 24-85 VR lens is for FX. Yes, it sounds like a terrific lens. I am curious about its DOF capability. Hopefully the tests will show favorable bokeh.
The 18-200 and 18-270 lenses you refer are both DX lenses. If you want to compare FX superzooms, then that would be Nikon 28-300 and the Tamron equivalents.

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Jun 14, 2012)

24-85 tells a lot about where the D600 is going to be pitched to.

Things are looking good.

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dbateman
By dbateman (Jun 14, 2012)

I really hope this 24-85mm lens does indicate that the rumoured D600 is true! This would be a perfect kit lens to be included with that camera. I also hope the rumor $1500 price tag for the D600 is true. Then I might actually get one. As the leaked image shows the black plastic tag needed for my AIS 35mm and 50mm lenses, this could be perfect.

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AshMills
By AshMills (Jun 14, 2012)

Well as a lover of the old good 24-85 on holiday, the 24-70 2.8 when I can be bothered and the (I find excellent) 24-120 f4 pretty much every working day, I will definitely be ordering one.

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Tape5
By Tape5 (Jun 14, 2012)

They should do an Apple snub thing on this lens :

Designed in Tokyo, assembled in China.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 17, 2012)

it looks more like, designed in vietnam, assembled in cambodia

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Valiant Thor
By Valiant Thor (Jun 18, 2012)

Still better than anything an American can make.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 18, 2012)

true! iam european :)

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Peter 13
By Peter 13 (Jun 14, 2012)

I see.

NIKON EXPANDS ACCLAIMED NIKKOR LENS LINEUP ...

Compact, versatile and powerful - introducing the [Canon] EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF 40mm f/2.8 STM

So the Nikon lenses are "acclaimed" while the Canon lenses are just a lenses?

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JPMontez
By JPMontez (Jun 14, 2012)

It's a Nikon press release... Should they advertise Canon lenses?

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zoomring
By zoomring (Jun 14, 2012)

would you like some cheese & crackers to go with that whine?

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 15, 2012)

wtf are you crazy ???? get a live, canon sucks anyway, they should stick with consumer printers or whatever their main busines is, just like panasonic sony sharp etc

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5lav
By 5lav (Jun 17, 2012)

@inevitable...
Do you know what are you talking about?
Dont you think that some competition between manufacturers is good for you? Or perhaps are you employed by Nikon?

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 17, 2012)

@5lav, but you read the post i was commenting to , and what the guys problem is ? ^^

the rest of my comment was a joke, except that sony and panasonic, should stick with monitors because their cameras are crappy

edit:

iam not paid by nikon, thats called loyal customer, i buy nikon gear since 1988, aim not shooting canon, no one has to pay me to praise nikon ;)

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SiliconVoid
By SiliconVoid (Jun 18, 2012)

Yeah, Sony knows nothing about photography.. that is why Nikon uses them to build their sensors.

Please; brand loyalty is one thing - but when all you see in other brands is negativity, that is fanboyism.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 18, 2012)

exactly, because the sensor is the only part where a traditional optics company is not the best in class so they buy sensors from an electronics company, that bought another traditional company that went bancrupt for a good reason and now rebrands their bodies and lenses to sell their sensors for a higher prize tag :)

edit: its not about any other brand, i like leica, zeiss, rollei, hasselblad, mamiya, olympus, pentax ... you know ? i just don't like panasonic and sony

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LSE
By LSE (Jun 14, 2012)

nice additions but we're still waiting for the big guns that we already know to be coming based on the various patents and leaks:

135 f1.8/2
70-200 f/4
50 f/1.2
10mm f/4
17mm TS

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jun 15, 2012)

oh my god there is a 135 1.8 coming ? with DC?

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