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Fujifilm creates wide-angle adapter and firmware v1.3 for X100

By dpreview staff on May 15, 2012 at 16:59 GMT

Fujifilm has announced the WCL-X100 wide-angle adapter lens for its X100 large sensor, fixed-lens compact. The 0.8x adapter extends the camera's 35mm equivalent field of view out to 28mm equivalent. It is designed to match the X100 in terms of both appearance and quality, sharing the camera's Fujifilm's Super EBC coating and made-in-Japan construction. The WCl-X100 will be available from June at a price of around $350. To enable use of the converter, the company has also issued firmware v1.30 which adds a function for its use as well as fixing two minor operational bugs.


Press Release:

FUJIFILM ANNOUNCES ALL NEW WIDE CONVERSION LENS FOR THE AWARD WINNING FUJIFILM X100 DIGITAL CAMERA

Valhalla, N.Y., May 15, 2012 – FUJIFILM North America Corporation today announced an exciting new premium accessory for the award winning FUJIFILM X100 – a Wide Conversion Lens (WCL-X100) that will further enhance the exceptional photographic experience of using the FUJIFILM X100 digital camera. The new Wide Conversion Lens will not only maximize the FUJIFILM X100’s shooting versatility and performance, but it will also add to the stunning look and feel of the camera with its exacting design similarities. 

“We are extremely pleased to offer this new Wide Conversion Lens for the FUJIFILM X100, which has been enthusiastically received from the professional and advanced amateur photographic communities for its beautiful design and outstanding image quality,” said Go Miyazaki, division president, Imaging and Electronic Imaging Divisions, FUJIFILM North America Corporation. “Fujifilm is committed to giving photographers the premium tools that they need to achieve the best imaging results imaginable, and this new lens will allow the FUJIFILM X100 to exceed users’ expectations by opening up countless new shooting opportunities.”

FUJIFILM Wide Conversion lens (WCL-X100)

The FUJIFILM WCL-X100, a wide conversion lens made in Japan and designed specifically for the award winning FUJIFILM X100, attaches directly onto the camera and increases picture taking versatility by multiplying the fixed focal length by 0.8x, converting it from 23mm (35mm equivalent) fixed focal length to a 19mm wide angle (28mm equivalent). The WCL-X100 delivers superb optical quality and maximizes versatility of the FUJIFILM X100 by ensuring comparable image quality even at the f/2 wide aperture setting, all while retaining all the original optical characteristics, including the attractive bokeh effect.

The FUJIFILM WCL-X100’s optical construction uses four premium glass elements in three groups to keep aberrations minimal, and also employs the unique FUJINON Super EBC (Electron Beam Coating) for outstanding results.

Using the WCL-X100

Achieving the very best results from the WCL-X100 is simple: select the ‘Wide Conversion Lens’ option in the FUJIFILM X100’s menu system (camera must be updated to firmware version 1.30 or later) or select the function via the Function (Fn) or RAW buttons. 

After selecting the ‘Wide Conversion Lens’ option, the FUJIFILM X100 automatically applies image processing to shots taken using the WCL-X100 to reduce image distortion, ensuring balanced illumination across the frame and reduced chromatic aberration which can be commonly found in wide conversion lenses.

The WCL-X100 maintains the full functionality of the FUJIFILM X100, including auto focusing speeds, the 10cm macro capability and of course, the extraordinary hybrid viewfinder. With the optical viewfinder (OVF) selected, icons showing the edge of the frame are displayed instead of the frame rim (equivalent to 80% of the frame field of view), while selecting the electronic viewfinder (EVF) gives users a 100% field of view. 

The perfect match for the FUJIFILM X100
The design of the WCL-X100 has been carefully considered to ensure a seamless blend with the FUJIFILM X100. It uses the same materials, textures and colors as the existing X100, plus the optional LH-X100 lens hood and PRF-49S protective filter can be used on the conversion lens. Furthermore, the clip-on lens cap for the WCL-X100 can be attached with both the lens hood and filter in place.

FUJIFILM WCL-X100 key features

  • 0.8x magnification factor to convert X100 lens to 28mm wide angle (35mm equivalent)
  • All glass optical construction using four elements in three groups
  • FUJINON Super EBC coating
  • “Made in Japan” for optimum quality
  • Available in silver and black

The FUJIFILM Wide Conversion lens (WCL-X100) will be available in silver and black in June 2012 for $349.99.

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Comments

Total comments: 186
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ian3b
By ian3b (Jun 13, 2012)

This reminds me of my first SLR, a Canon EXEE that my dad gave to me. I only ever owned the 50mm, but there were 35mm, 95mm and 125mm interchangeable front lens elements.
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/film/data/1966-1975/1969_exee.html?lang=us&categ=crn&page=1966-1975

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bobsphotos
By bobsphotos (May 22, 2012)

Fuji makes $80,000 lens w/VR for video cameras. They know lens.

1 upvote
Godzilin
By Godzilin (May 22, 2012)

After I checked the prizc for similar lens from other brands,I think that $350 is reasonable price for 28mm F2 if there will be no suffering in IQ.

0 upvotes
M Jesper
By M Jesper (May 29, 2012)

Exactly my thought. There still aren't any fast wide-angle primes like this for APSC DSLRs that are within budget and compact enough, but with this i'll have two great F2 primes -and- matching camera for €1200 total, in a light and compact package. Perfect for my use.

2 upvotes
JonB1975
By JonB1975 (May 19, 2012)

Why 28mm instead of 24mm?

Simple. When you set the camera to conversion lens in the menu the frame guides in the OVF are at the limit of the electronic display - a 24 mm would be too wide.

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kriegeld
By kriegeld (May 19, 2012)

I wonder how this will compare to the reasonably-priced Nikon E-68 converter I purchased on EBay for $49 new. Works well with the X-100 (though seems a tad soft sometimes). It will be interesting to try the new firmware with the E-68. Has anyone already tried?

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tr4driver
By tr4driver (May 22, 2012)

I have. I didn't notice any difference. The problem with the E-68 is that you have to stop it down get it even half-way sharp, and even then the corners are soft.

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Bastian Junker
By Bastian Junker (May 18, 2012)

And a 1,4 teleconverter:-)

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Bastian Junker
By Bastian Junker (May 18, 2012)

Nice work Fuji. Hopefully they will make a wider angel in the future.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (Jul 5, 2012)

Wider Angel? Is that like if John Travolta redid the movie 'Michael' now?

1 upvote
sporty883
By sporty883 (May 18, 2012)

Fuji 'X100.28' > X100 + WCL-X100

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Polyfem
By Polyfem (May 17, 2012)

Hats off for Fujifilm. Instead of just letting the X100 on its own they keep improving its attraction. Great firmware updates and now this. I'm not sure I'll use it since the difference between 28 and 35 isn't significant, but, knowing myself, I'll probably acquiere one after all - the price is very nice.

I just wish they'd upgrade their assecories, especially their bags. The fine leather holster was useless from the beginning - they should make a decent bag which could contain the camera with UV filter, the cap, the hood and now the converter. It's meaningless to have a fine leather holster which cannot contain the rather few extras for this camera.

Sven

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (May 17, 2012)

Really? I think the leather case is THE must have accessory. It allows you to do away with the stupid lens cap and enables quick shooting and protects the lens. Only thing is the strap is too "sticky" and hard and I replaced it with something softer and smoother. If the case had a pocket it would spoil the slim form factor.

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Polyfem
By Polyfem (May 17, 2012)

So, what do you do with the hood? And can you have an UV-filter mounted and still fit it within the case?

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derangboy
By derangboy (May 18, 2012)

Underneath the leather case you can fit the lens cap or adaptor only. The adaptor and filter are a little too long to properly close the case, though it is practically closed.
I too would have liked to see a wider converter, but 28 is a very good start. In addition to a 2x I'd like to see a fish eye just for fun!

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amolkolhe
By amolkolhe (Nov 17, 2012)

I found full leather cover to be too much hassle. I like my camera readily available when needed, rest of the time its in a bag with nice cushion.

So, I got the leather half cover with a hole at the bottom for changing batteries. This protects the bottom. The top is left open, but that makes it convenient to operate.

For the lens, I got the converter and hood, and a uv filter by B+W. Its an awesome setup and all elements are protected.

Looking fwd to get the Wide angle converter for landscape.

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Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (May 17, 2012)

Seems pointless. Might as well buy an X-Pro-1. Only 28mm?? Fuji got this one wrong. It should either be 24mm or a 3 x tele or preferably a 28-112mm.
Anyway the whole point of the original camera appears to have been forgotten - by it's creators. A simple and light weight form with fixed lens that is the digital equivalent of film rangefinder style cameras (with the added bonuses newer technology brings). Won't be buying this for my X100.

1 upvote
mhike
By mhike (May 17, 2012)

"it's"= "it is" ("is" is a verb of "to be")
"its"=denotes possession

7 upvotes
ksgant
By ksgant (May 17, 2012)

Thanks mhike, I had no idea what he was saying. It was all gibberish until you explained it. I copied and pasted his post into a text editor, took away that one little apostrophe, then the entire post was readable!

Bravo! I wouldn't have understood his post without doing that. You're a genuine asset to the community.

5 upvotes
polymathic
By polymathic (May 17, 2012)

mhmike, while its denotes possession, you denote petty obsession.

2 upvotes
Dougbm_2
By Dougbm_2 (May 17, 2012)

mhike. It's alright. Thanks for the clarification. I actually do like to get those things right.

To the others - very funny!

1 upvote
GirinoFumetto
By GirinoFumetto (May 19, 2012)

mhike!
"it's" is not a verb of "to be"!
It is the third person singular present indicative of the verb to be that is a form of the verb to be.
But, if you are only able to say "is a verb of to be", I am so lucky that I understand just the same.
Sorry, but english is not my language.

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Provia_fan
By Provia_fan (May 17, 2012)

I am shocked at he amount of "wisdom" in this comment thread.

1.The Fujifilm is a rangefinder-like camera, the Sony R1 is and SLR- like bridge camera, totally different tools in the way they work.

2. Fujinon lenses are among the most highly acclaimed and have been so for decades (this one is for you so called photographers that only picked up a camera yesterday and never even handled a roll of film and think they are veterans)

3. Fujifilm is right to offer a 28mm converter, why should they jump straight to 24mm? Who told you they are not making a 24mm adapter anyway?

4.The viewfinder on it it is also highly acclaimed and agreed to be very innovative among real photographers who use it in the real world. It's not an alternative, it has been built into it along with that high quality expensive optic. Innovation and quality have a price.

5. As pointed by others the converter is all glass is not a cheap crap plastic converter like the one that Olympus has made for macro for example. 'Great lens too bad about the cheap plastic crap in front of it'

6. The lens on the R1 is a great lens, but it's a zoom lens, zoom lenses even today, will suffer from a level of pincushion and barrel distortion and softness in the corners that prime lenses simply don't, so so much for that comparison in what concerns optical quality. More versatile maybe, but I prefer to go into the action to take my shots so zoom for me is not a priority.

7. The DP1....nice camera indeed, but where's the finder and where's the low light performance? Ditto NX series?

....I could go on, but it would be a waste of time. The X100 is not a perfect camera but it is still an excellent camera and one for those who understand what it is and how to use it. If you never used a rangefinder before or don't like rangefinders, forget it. If you wanna learn how to use a rangefinder, get a film one, learn it, fall in love with how it works and then get the X100 or the X-Pro 1. If rangefinders are not for you look somewhere else.

Seems to me that a lot of people and not only in this forum, don't understand the fundamental differences between different camera types and have little knowledge or experience and make huge statements based on their narrow view of things.

3 upvotes
DarkShift
By DarkShift (May 17, 2012)

Since you got the wisdom, do you know how much light loss does this converter produce?

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (May 17, 2012)

None. This doesn't work like a teleconverter, and it's not some toy adapter. Allegedly built with the same quality, precision and coatings as the original lens it adds 4 elements in 3 groups, changing the lens design itself to a actual 28mm F2 equivalent with 12 elements in 9 groups, rather than transforming the image like a teleconverter does.

The fact that it's relatively large shows that they gave it all the glass it needed, like a proper two-part lens. And judging by Fuji's samples it works as well as i hoped it would !

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/accessories/lens/conversionlens/x100wideconversionlens/sample_images/

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Provia_fan
By Provia_fan (May 17, 2012)

As Jesper said, it will be next to none, virtually negligible. It's not a cheap toy lens nor a back converter, furthermore, I still don't see what's the fuss of it being "only" 28mm and people talking like this is the last converter Fujifilm will ever make for this camera. As I said, don't like it, look somewhere else.

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Provia_fan
By Provia_fan (May 17, 2012)

...unfortunately, it's proof again that a lot of the negative comments aimed at it come from those who lack knowledge or experience with these types of cameras.

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zxaar
By zxaar (May 17, 2012)

"Fujinon lenses are among the most highly acclaimed and have been so for decades" ------- yaa sure the name Zeiss on R1 is something nobody has ever heard. I give you that Fujinon lenses have name for themselves but it does not mean that others are useless piece of glass.

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ksgant
By ksgant (May 17, 2012)

The X100 isn't a rangefinder. It doesn't work like a rangefinder. I wish it DID act like a rangefinder. But you're at the mercy of the very slow and very imprecise auto-focus. The image quality is top-notch, I'll give you that. But just because it looks like a rangefinder doesn't mean it IS a rangefinder. Ever try to manually focus this? It can be done I suppose, but if you're thinking you're going to go out and shoot manually and be the next Henri Cartier-Bresson, you're going to have a bad time.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 17, 2012)

X100 and R1 are the same type of camera. But X100 is in a dick extender category, while R1 is not. Ditto for NX, Pentax, etc

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Provia_fan
By Provia_fan (May 17, 2012)

Where in that statement you zxaar have read that I have said that Zeiss lenses are useless I don't know. That's just trolling.

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Provia_fan
By Provia_fan (May 17, 2012)

It's only half right that it is not a rangefinder ksgant.Anyway,I said it was rangefinder-like & for the most part it works like one;
1.viewfinder&having frame lines for composition
2.distance from the back of element of the lens to the plane of the sensor (very similar)
3.it's got a fixed prime lens

Looks very much like a rangfinder to me.AF only makes a difference to those who can't MF & have grown dependent on it. Just because it's got AF doesn't mean that it pushed itself out of the rangefinder-like concept. I did try MF & I hadn't any problems. I even zone focus like a RF & again no issues. I grew up and developed my photography with MF cameras SLRs&Rangefinders,for me it was a non issue.
I think AF was included in this camera so Fujifilm would be able to target a wider market, it's virtually a requirement nowadays. I am sure if it didn't it would have been held against it by reviewers & potential buyers.You could say, Leicas don't have AF but who are Leicas targeted at?

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ksgant
By ksgant (May 17, 2012)

But, it's not a rangefinder because of the very fact that it isn't a rangefinder nor does it act like a rangefinder in the way it focuses. The reason rangefinder camera's are called rangefinders is BECAUSE of the rangefinder mechanism on them.

Yes, it may look like one, but it's not one. No, it's not because it has autofocus. I'm not trying to be a purist here, nor do I use Leica's (I did use an M3 about 20-25 years ago for a while). I'd like to have it as an autofocus camera with a better system, but let it also have a good manual focus ability. While I couldn't hope for a rangefinder mechanism on it as that would significantly add to the cost (calibrating one is a pain), I'd like to have something like focus-peeking (peaking?) to show manual focusing.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (May 20, 2012)

He never said it is a rangefinder because of the very fact that he never said "it's a rangefinder".

Rangefinder-like is a proper and true description of this camera. You may be too thick headed to see the many other benefits of a rangefinder type camera besides its actual rangefinder, but they're there, and they're here in the x100, and very very few like it. With or without rangefinder.

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francc
By francc (May 17, 2012)

will,why not FUJI just change the x100 to lens-change able...?

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Provia_fan
By Provia_fan (May 17, 2012)

Because they have the X-Pro 1 and had it mapped for quite some time and given that the X100 was well received then they launched the X-Pro1 which is in my view an X100 with interchangeable lenses. Fujifilm is doing the right thing by going the rangefinder-like camera route, they will be creating a market almost all of their own. Besides they have the experience in this field. Anyone remembers the fabulous Fujica 35 EE? Or the V2? Remember how togs used to rave about the lenses on those?

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Kelvin L
By Kelvin L (May 17, 2012)

It's nice to see Fuji still coming out with neat accessories for the X100. It tells me they haven't abandoned the model just yet.

I've used these kinds of converters in the past and found them impractical for actual use. It comes down to two things - bulk and lens mounting. Now we would need to factor in extra button pressing to select the correct framelines.

On the other hand I can't think of many other manufacturers offering a 28mm f/2.0 equivalent viewing angle for $350 or less. To the people saying that 28mm isn't wide enough - 28mm offers a true wide angle viewpoint with less of the stretchy field distortions you get with 24mm for close subjects and elements towards the edge of the frame. (I remember when 24mm was considered a superwide.)

I'd be interested to know how much native linear distortion is introduced into the RAW image, as the firmware update notes report some 'fudge factor' correction being applied when this lens is attached.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (May 16, 2012)

First official samples with the adapter !

http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/accessories/lens/conversionlens/x100wideconversionlens/sample_images/

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Digitall
By Digitall (May 16, 2012)

Really, for this price I buy a complete lens with everything that a complete lens must have. I had forgotten to make a reference to the price ;)

2 upvotes
RedDogSunset
By RedDogSunset (May 16, 2012)

Good option to have. I would consider it and I suspect the price will come down a little after it has been out awhile. Every little helps to keep my X-Pro1 desire at bay ;)

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (May 16, 2012)

24-120 f2.8-4.8 Zeiss T Sonnar. The Sony R1- the wise man's smart alternative to years of endless suffering....

1 upvote
tkbslc
By tkbslc (May 16, 2012)

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing as an x100

1 upvote
zxaar
By zxaar (May 17, 2012)

not the same thing because R1 is much better.

0 upvotes
LaFonte
By LaFonte (May 16, 2012)

I didn't see this coming after year and the new xpro1.

0 upvotes
slaughtr
By slaughtr (May 16, 2012)

It's an interesting concept and as the owner of an X100, I can see some utility. Like others have said here though, it's not really that much wider so I think I'll pass. Then again, I did just buy an X Pro-1.

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Artistico
By Artistico (May 16, 2012)

Shame it's not a 24mm equivalent, or it might actually have been really interesting.

2 upvotes
Dan DeLion
By Dan DeLion (May 16, 2012)

Who would have guessed that any company would make a $350 converter to change a 35mm lens to a 28mm lens? How about a $250 converter to change the neck strap length from 36 inches to 36.5 inches?

10 upvotes
slaughtr
By slaughtr (May 16, 2012)

Now THAT"S funny!

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v_roma
By v_roma (May 17, 2012)

I guess it would make more sense to sell a $99 piece of crap to put in front of your $1,200 X100?? More than half of the cost of the X100 goes towards the lens. The converter is all glass, 4 elements in 3 groups. *If* it manages to convert 35mm to 28mm and not degrade the native optical quality of the X100 too much, $350 sounds quite reasonable (assuming you are interested in the 28mm focal length).

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CFynn
By CFynn (May 16, 2012)

Zeiss used to make lens convertors like this for some of their cameras that had a fixed lens and a leaf shutter.

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MarceloSalup
By MarceloSalup (May 16, 2012)

This is converter, for pete's sake, same as a point & shoot

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (May 16, 2012)

Well we'll just have to see about that won't we.

1 upvote
David Cassan
By David Cassan (May 16, 2012)

Thanks Fuji for that adapter, it will allow me to use that gem on wider landscapes. An 90~100 mm equivalent adapter for macro/portrait and it will be just perfect.

2 upvotes
Jon Stern
By Jon Stern (May 16, 2012)

That's expensive, but I was in the market for a wide-angle adapter for my X100, so I'm definitely interested.

Now I just want them to announce a teleconverter too. A 2x would be great to give me a 70mm equivalent.

Of course, I didn't want to have interchangeable lenses (I have my 5D Mark II for that), so this could be a slippery slope.

3 upvotes
D a v e
By D a v e (May 16, 2012)

Add me to the list of people wanting a 2x tele.

2 upvotes
Codik
By Codik (May 16, 2012)

I am so happy I got an X-100 when it came out. Fuji has slowly (took a few firmware updated) turned it into my favourite camera. Thank you, Fuji!

1 upvote
tomeee
By tomeee (May 16, 2012)

the x100 is great as it is.

5 upvotes
Anton Muller
By Anton Muller (May 16, 2012)

ditto :-)

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rusticus
By rusticus (May 16, 2012)

I Agree

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Ben Raven
By Ben Raven (May 16, 2012)

DOMO ARIGATO MR. ROBOTO,

Yes - it - is - great - as - it - is
It - is - per-fect - ca-me-ra
I - am - ha-ppy - ha-ppy - ha-ppy - ha-ppy - ha-ppy - ha-ppy - ha-ppy . . . . . . .

Comment edited 4 minutes after posting
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brumd
By brumd (May 16, 2012)

ha ha ha
well, we all know it's not 'perfect', yet it consistently gives me the quality pictures that I'm looking for. So yes, it makes me happy happy happy! :)

I use it a lot for company visits, trade fairs and other excursions. It's ideal for those indoor situations; RAWs at ISO3200, f/2 look just great. Never have been disappointed with the results so far. Me happy. Companies happy. Customers happy. Everybody happy. Yay! :)

1 upvote
Ben Raven
By Ben Raven (May 16, 2012)

brumd,

If YOU'RE happy, then that's all that counts for YOU !
Kudos on being big enough to laugh at the situation.
Best wishes.

1 upvote
rainman1978
By rainman1978 (May 16, 2012)

Fuji should have made a wider converter (24mm equivalent), I think 350 is expensive for a 0.8X converter.

3 upvotes
RoccoGalatioto
By RoccoGalatioto (May 16, 2012)

When you add it all up, with a few extra bucks one can get the X1 Pro with a nice big sensor.

1 upvote
abortabort
By abortabort (May 16, 2012)

The sensor is the same size in X100 vs X-Pro1.

7 upvotes
ppastoris
By ppastoris (May 16, 2012)

And on top of that X-100 is a lot smaller than X-Pro1.

2 upvotes
Phil Levy
By Phil Levy (May 16, 2012)

And the x100 is a lot quieter and has a built in flash.

2 upvotes
M Jesper
By M Jesper (May 16, 2012)

When you add it all up the X100 is currently €950 + €350, worst case scenario, while the X-Pro1 is €2300 with the 28/2 equivalent on it. Only a €1000 difference. That is what you call a few bucks ?

6 upvotes
mr moonlight
By mr moonlight (May 16, 2012)

Everyone has their own idea of what a few extra bucks is. For some is just a few dollars, for others it's closer to a grand.

2 upvotes
JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (May 17, 2012)

Heh. Reminds me of the old saying "a million here, a million there - pretty soon you're talking real money."

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arndsan
By arndsan (May 16, 2012)

fuji should have to lens versions like sigma.
i would prefer 28mm from the beginning (the successful GRD got it).

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rfsIII
By rfsIII (May 16, 2012)

In these discussions about APS-C compacts and what is and isn't possible with the format, everyone neglects to mention the 2005 Sony DSC-R1; it was 10mp and had a pretty awesome 24 – 120 mm equivalent lens. Why Sony didn't keep updating and evolving that camera is a mystery. It was what everyone needed but no one wanted to admit it.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 16, 2012)

I have this camera, and it's pretty good even by today's standards. Great lens too. Ergonomics is excellent. No video mode, though.
Sony didn't keep updating this camera, because that bought Minolta camera line and switched to SLRs. The camera was also expensive at $1000. But the lens alone worth that much IMHO.

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Iskender
By Iskender (May 16, 2012)

The reason people don't mention the R1 when compacts are discussed is that it's compact in name only. It's larger than or equal to in size to an entry-level SLR with a medium-sized zoom.

Even more importantly, it weighs a kilo. That's slightly more than the body only weight of the Canon 5D mk III! Or put differently, it's more than the weight of a M43 system camera together with 14-42, 14/2.5, 20/1.7 and 45/1.8 lenses.

It was a good camera but it was also huge.

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zxaar
By zxaar (May 17, 2012)

for me personally R1's hugeness is biggest thing I like about it. Still using it and just bought a new battery for it, thinking that i might be using it next 5 years to come. Count me in R1 fanboys.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 15, 2012)

$350 for a converter? They are crazy!
I've bought my Samsung NX100 with 20-50 and 20/2.8 (30mm equiv.) and a flash for $450 brand new. I later sold the flash for $70, so that's $380 for the camera with 2 lenses. And those jerks from Fuji are charging $350 just for one bloody converter?!

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persiyan
By persiyan (May 16, 2012)

Maybe this explains better than I can explain it with words:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/studio-compare#baseDir=/reviews_data&cameraDataSubdir=boxshot&indexFileName=boxshotindex.xml&presetsFileName=boxshotpresets.xml&showDescriptions=false&headerTitle=Studio scene&headerSubTitle=Standard studio scene comparison&masterCamera=fujifilm_x100&masterSample=dscf2567&slotsCount=4&slot0Camera=fujifilm_x100&slot0Sample=dscf2567&slot0DisableCameraSelection=true&slot0DisableSampleSelection=true&slot0LinkWithMaster=true&slot1Camera=samsung_nx100&slot1Sample=sam_0183&x=-0.4619460262441197&y=0.13772142912604124

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 16, 2012)

Yes, Fuji is a bit better, but it's not 4 times better, especially when comparing raw. I'm not going to pay 4 times more money for this buggy overpriced piece of junk! Fuji release the beta camera first, then let users find out bugs. Nothing like that comes from Samsung.

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persiyan
By persiyan (May 16, 2012)

I'm curious where you got a brand new NX100 with two lenses and a flash for $450? eBay? I can get a new X100 on eBay for $800-900 with hundreds of dollars worth of accessories too. Let's not forget you have to add an EVF or an OVF($200), I also doubt the lenses you have are of the quality of the 23mm Fujinon. Limited manual controls, and all plastic enclosure on the NX100. These are all things that add to the quality and the price. Sure, this converter is overpriced, no doubt, but the cam is right on the money with its options.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 16, 2012)

Yes, I've got it on ebay more than a year ago. Now show me brand new X100 for $800-900? The cheapest I found was $1049.
I just bought an EVF for my NX100 for $60, brand new. Samsung lenses will rival Fuji at 1/5 of a price, especially 20 and 30mm primes. I've got 20mm as a part of kit, 30mm from Fry's for $160. Do this with Fuji! NX100 has all the manual controls you can have, no less than Fuji, and ergonomics is excellent. Plastic - shmastic - I don't care about this.
Everything Fuji is overpriced. Look for example at the EF-x20 flash. Non bounce flash for $175? They must be smoking dope!
All what Fuji created since introduction of X100 is an overpriced hype, full of bugs. Quality product from Fuji? You must be kidding! Look at this X10 piece of junk!

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hexxthalion
By hexxthalion (May 16, 2012)

@ supeyugin1 - do you/have you owned X100? You don't sound like somebody who's got slightest clue when it comes to X100. That camera is not overpriced nor junk. Instead, it's little gem, easy to shoot with, easy to set and produces excellent results!

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 16, 2012)

X100 is definitely overpriced. For less money you can buy Sony NEX, Samsung NX or Pentax, and have an interchangeable lenses as well. There Sigma DP1 and 2 as well for much less money. Samsung NX200, which can now be bought for $500 with a lens and a flash will have slightly better image quality than X100 for 2 times less money. Not talking about Pentax.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/studio-compare#baseDir=%2Freviews_data&cameraDataSubdir=boxshot&indexFileName=boxshotindex.xml&presetsFileName=boxshotpresets.xml&showDescriptions=false&headerTitle=Studio%20scene&headerSubTitle=Standard%20studio%20scene%20comparison&masterCamera=fujifilm_x100&masterSample=dscf2565&slotsCount=4&slot0Camera=fujifilm_x100&slot0Sample=dscf2565&slot0DisableCameraSelection=true&slot0DisableSampleSelection=true&slot0LinkWithMaster=true&slot1Camera=samsung_nx200&slot1Sample=sam_9093&slot2Camera=sony_nex5n&slot2Sample=dsc00787&slot3Camera=pentax_k01&slot3Sample=imgp1376&x=0.9757035569860525&y=-1.2513936720624708

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mr moonlight
By mr moonlight (May 16, 2012)

I think someone's just jealous cause they can't afford their own X100. Thus all the rage. Most of the time, you pay for what you get. Comparing the NX100 to the X100. I completely agree with supeyugin1 that the X100 isn't 4X the Samsung. It's more like 10X the camera... possibly more.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 17, 2012)

Nonsense!

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mhike
By mhike (May 17, 2012)

Typical post from the Samsung forum. They have an action in place now in a thread there to put up fake positive reviews:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1001&thread=41526547

In the past, they've had an action to seed as many threads as possible with Samsung content.

The NX100 and X100 have little in common and between them, it's clear, even with a fixed lens, the latter is the superior camera.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 17, 2012)

You meant to say "Another johnson extender from Fuji"?

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Scott Birch
By Scott Birch (6 months ago)

supeyugin if all your photos end up on social media sites or remain on some hard drive until accidentally deleted, then your NX200 is fine for you.

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James22
By James22 (May 15, 2012)

Your article summary is incorrect. The standard camera is already a ~24mm FOV equivalent. This 0.8x adapter turns it into a ~19mm equivalent.

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Caleido
By Caleido (May 15, 2012)

No you are wrong. It's a 23mm lens on a aps-c sensor, so its an 35mm equivalent.

This adapter makes it a 28mm equivalent (or a 18mm lens)

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Poweruser
By Poweruser (May 15, 2012)

28mm is lackluster. Why not wider?

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Josh152
By Josh152 (May 16, 2012)

It is probably the best balance between the strength of the converter and the overall IQ.

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Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (May 15, 2012)

I think Panasonic tried to do this once. I remember that the wide angle adapter sold very little. So much glass, for so little gain (0.8 magnification), for a lot of money. In other words, it was a flop. I think the quality of the edges was very lacking. I hope it isn't the case with these.

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ppastoris
By ppastoris (May 16, 2012)

Something tells me that 350$ isn't much money to most people who can afford X100. Judging from the samples on Fuji website the converter's quality is excellent, so if you need it and can afford it I see no reason not buy.

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mr moonlight
By mr moonlight (May 16, 2012)

Definitely. The X100 is definitely not a camera aimed at those with tight budgets. On the other hand, the X100 is a very different camera than anything currently on the market (besides the Xpro-1 of course) so I can see a lot of starving photographers saving their pennies for one. I would. $350 is a lot for a converter, but if it can deliver the goods, it's worth it. Most converters are crap.

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picsnmorepics
By picsnmorepics (May 15, 2012)

Now I didn't see that coming. I likely won't be an adopter as I find the X100 to be very useful just as it is. The 35mm (fov equivalent) is nearly perfect for how I use the camera and it the primary reason I bought the camera. Fuji has addressed several issues in firmware and now a new piece hardware. I also don't think I want to risk the great IQ to a converter. Sample images and some more experience with it will be necessary before it gets too much of my attention. I typically find a two or three shot offhand panorama quite adequate when I need a wider views.

Roger

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Jogger
By Jogger (May 15, 2012)

Darn it, i was hoping it was a wide adapter that goes between the lens and body.. freakin Kodak still has that patent and has done zilch with it.

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CFynn
By CFynn (May 16, 2012)

And how would you remove the lens on an X100 to fit such an adapter?

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CFynn
By CFynn (May 16, 2012)

And how would you remove the lens on an X100 to fit such an adapter?

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owenleve
By owenleve (May 15, 2012)

I have the x100. Have used it for about 6 months. Final conclusion. Cute toy... Not falling for this add-on Fuji. Thanks. Oh, looked at the xpro out of curiosity. Felt like a plastic holga. Image quality 'can' be nice but I'm sticking to real, professional gear... called Nikon.

For sale, X100....

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (May 15, 2012)

Great. We wont have to read cr@p like this anymore.

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villagranvicent
By villagranvicent (May 15, 2012)

Another troll in the house...

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r10k
By r10k (May 15, 2012)

If this isn't a troll, might I suggest staying off the hard drugs.

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tomeee
By tomeee (May 16, 2012)

I couldn't disagree more with owenleve, I use the d700 and love it. I also use the x100 as a walk around and love it, it is a great little camera!

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CFynn
By CFynn (May 16, 2012)

Nikon AFS-S lenses have plastic bodies - the Fujinon lenses are at least as well built.

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mr moonlight
By mr moonlight (May 16, 2012)

Real professionals don't shoot Nikon.

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wcowan
By wcowan (May 15, 2012)

Excellent idea, I hope Fuji releases a few more converters. A 0.68x (24mm EFL) and a 2.0x (70mm EFL) would have been far more useful. I would buy both at a similar or slightly higher price point to this 0.8x offering.

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villagranvicent
By villagranvicent (May 15, 2012)

If this works for them I am sure they will release more converters, and maybe an X200 could have a 50mm f2 lens instead of the 35mm and then the converters would be more appealing.

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hexxthalion
By hexxthalion (May 16, 2012)

@ villagranvicent - I don't think it would make much sense to have as a fixed lens 50mm eq. 35mm is brilliant for street and that's where X100 excels, it's quiet and discrete, you can get 'in the action' without being noticed. Also, could conflict with X-Pro1 (35mm f/1.4 is considered as a kit lens for it). But we never know what's Fuji cooking in their labs.

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seta666
By seta666 (May 15, 2012)

WOW; 350$ for a screw in teleconverter!!
I am so happy I sold my X100...........

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snake_b
By snake_b (May 15, 2012)

I simply bought a K-5 with a couple of primes. It's seriously not that much bigger than an x100, true, in a dSLR format, but a small one. Everything I want is there, with fewer compromises, like AF, lens limitations, shutter speed limits, and so on. The X100 is a good performer, but rough around the edges. If some of these things were worked out, I'd likely have gotten one, but in the meantime, the K-5 leaves me wanting NOTHING. I wouldn't even sacrifice this performance for something smaller.

669 euros new with rebate, 359 for a used FA35 F2, 180 for a used F50 1.7, and I have just about everything I need.

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EricWN
By EricWN (May 16, 2012)

Nice for you, sadly has nothing to do with the topic here. Topic: wide adaptor for x100 now available.

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amolkolhe
By amolkolhe (Nov 17, 2012)

score :)

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Gesture
By Gesture (May 15, 2012)

The camera costs $1,200. The converted can only be used by those owning the X100. Wouldn't $200 be enough? Maybe, it should come with the camera as an accessory.

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (May 15, 2012)

Well the Leica X1/X2 costs $2000 and isn't half as good as this camera so if anything, you are getting quite a bargain. It's worth the purchase at twice the price if you ask me. Not sure why you feel that the lens converter should be included. Which other manufacturer does this?

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nawknai
By nawknai (May 16, 2012)

Well nearly every other small camera with a large sensor (EVIL, ILC, whatever you call these cameras) is cheaper.

Just because a Leica costs $2000, does not make the X100 a "bargain". That's nonsense. You're comparing the X100's price to an extreme minority of one. Compare the X100 to the large majority, and yes, it's a bit overpriced. Compare the X-Pro 1 to the ILC market, and yes, it's overpriced for what it is.

And this is coming from someone who is happy with their X100, and will buy the X-Pro 1 as their next camera. I'm doing so because I like the two Fuji cameras that I have purchased so far(F31fd and X100), and I know what I'm getting when I buy a Fuji.

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (May 16, 2012)

I compared it to the X1/X2 because that's the main competition for the X100. On top of that, most of the cheaper EVIL/ILC cams you refer to are cheap because they are made of plastic and include a cheap, slow lens. The build quality, design, lens quality and overall sex/retro appeal of the X100 cannot be compared to say a NEX 5N/GF3/NX200 etc.

Speaking of having Fuji cams, check my current and past gear to see just how much of a "Fuji guy" I am...

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hexxthalion
By hexxthalion (May 16, 2012)

not just that, but for me the main advantage of X100 over the rest is direct access to all exposure related controls without even turning camera on!!! that's a huge difference for me when it comes to usability - it's that connection, that's important to me, I mostly shoot in manual mode with this camera because it just feels so natural.Didn't quite get this sense of 'connection' with my dSLR.

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (May 16, 2012)

ybizzle i am kinda smilar idea about you on Leica Xseries. absolutely about the new rival. IMO they should hide this humpback for EVF back to maiin body line. Then it would look "1st Class" it looks preety boring now. And one thing, Your Leica could pay back after 20-30-40 years as a vintage collectible. But FujiX100... i am not sure...

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mr moonlight
By mr moonlight (May 16, 2012)

I just don't understand where the whole concept that the X100 and Xpro-1 is overpriced comes from. Two of the most important features of both cameras is their Hybrid Viewfinder and APS-C sized sensor. If another camera doesn't have at least a built in OVF and an APS-C sensor, then it's not worth comparing too. Overpriced? Compared to what? I agree it's a niche camera and it's not cheap, but try and find me another camera with similar features for less.

$350 for a converter is also not cheap but if the image quality is as good as the marketing says, then it's worth the price. It's pretty much like buying another lens vs. a converter since converters typically result in pretty degraded image quality.

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Jay A
By Jay A (May 15, 2012)

I think the adapter is a good idea. A little expensive but a good idea. No one is forcing anyone to purchase one.

As far as the X100 being a pointless camera...wow. I sold mine to make room for the XPRO1. Not only do I wish I had kept it, but I actually think it was in some ways a better camera than the XPRO1. I'll buy one back as soon as I can.

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (May 15, 2012)

It just prooves again: If you want the best shot, dont get fixed lens ! Buy even smallest sensored interchangable camera body and add a pancake lens on it. You could add any lens when you got richer. You can even get a camera bag too !!

(I dont know noone who could wear panths jacket has bulky pockets to handle X100... sorry it has never be compact though..)

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deniz erdem
By deniz erdem (May 15, 2012)

how on earth did you reach this conclusion?

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (May 15, 2012)

Another clueless person...

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EricWN
By EricWN (May 16, 2012)

So, which other camera with hybrid viewfinder, APS-C sensor, metal body, aperture ring, metal dials and 35mm f2 equiv lens would you suggest that fits your pockets better?

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (May 16, 2012)

Hmm with VF: Nex-7 and some future pancake lens
without VF: Nex-5 and smilar kinda lens! (and you can buy the EVF later on) Well i kinda understand your enhusiasm about this product. Somehow it did not amaze me, when i got it in my hands ... And this copy outlook.. Looks like you put a star front of your EastGerman car, and act like its a Mercedes! How else i could say, I leave you guys alone :D

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amolkolhe
By amolkolhe (Nov 17, 2012)

And which f/2 lens do you use with you Sony Nex? Can you even get that combo for $1200?

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Tee1up
By Tee1up (May 15, 2012)

I'm still holding out for a monochrome version that doesn't focus.

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Ben Raven
By Ben Raven (May 15, 2012)

Now you've done it, Tee -- you've got me literally salivating !

But Fuji's going to have to up that paltry price structure big time to get us to buy in !!

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Ben Raven
By Ben Raven (May 15, 2012)

WHOA THERE, FUJI !

Now X100 owners are going to have that steep learning curve trying to master shooting the wild perspective complexities of
U-L-T-R-A W-I-I-I-D-E !

At long last, a camera with a potential non-zoom, screw-on range of 28 AND/OR 35mm -- virtually unlimited !
(and for only $1,550)
What will they think of next ? Screw-on tele conversion to 50mm (!), for those great wildlife shots ?

Impressive !

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Tee1up
By Tee1up (May 15, 2012)

LOL Ben, that was really funny.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (May 15, 2012)

Fujifilm makes Leicish move. At $350, you can buy a whole new camera with 28mm eq lens.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (May 15, 2012)

You'd struggle to find one with an APS-C sensor, for that, though.

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mr moonlight
By mr moonlight (May 16, 2012)

You'd also struggle to find a fast 28mm-ish lens of decent quality for that price.

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deniz erdem
By deniz erdem (May 15, 2012)

as a m43 user, i consider fuji as one of the more innovative companies in the compact game. they got a good thing going with the x100. its just not 100% what i could have been. i was very close to buying one if it hadnt been for the SAB problem and the AF performance. im really glad to see that fuji is still working on improving x100. hopefully they also come up with an x200 in the future.

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JonB1975
By JonB1975 (May 15, 2012)

Damn - I just updated to fw 1.21 - now I'll have to put my settings in again!

Well, I will wait until I get the converter, so it's not too bad...

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hexxthalion
By hexxthalion (May 15, 2012)

Well done Fuji! I didn't see this one coming - not at all. I'm glad that there are still manufacturers who actually care about their existing customers and don't move onto a new 'next big thing'. With X-Pro1 out and already one FW update available for it I really can't wait to see what's in the Fuji's labs for it. OK, time to update my X100.

and, btw @Neodp - friend's daughter invited me for her 5th birthday party, so I went there last Saturday and was asked to capture all of it, X100 handled running kids very well, I didn't miss one shot, everything perfectly in focus and AF was fast both indoors and outdoors. And results are just brilliant.

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