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Canon announces EOS 5D Mark III 22MP full-frame DSLR

By dpreview staff on Mar 2, 2012 at 05:00 GMT
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Canon has announced the Canon EOS 5D Mark III, the latest in its enthusiast full-frame 5D series and successor to the popular EOS 5D Mark II. Based around a 22MP full-frame sensor, it can shoot 6 frames per second and features a 61-point AF system much like the EOS-1D X. It can capture 1080p movies at 24, 25 or 30 fps and offers high quality intraframe (All-I) video compression amongst a host of movie-related improvements. It will be available from the end of March with an MSRP of $3499 / €3299 / £2999.99.

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Press Release:

Creativity, redefined – Canon unleashes the EOS 5D Mark III

London, UK, 2nd March 2012 – Canon today announces the latest addition to its worldfamous EOS range with the launch of the new EOS 5D Mark III. The EOS 5D Mark IIIbuilds on the performance of the legendary EOS 5D Mark II, offering improved speed,greater resolution, enhanced processing power and extended creative options for bothstills and Full HD movies – providing unparalleled artistic freedom for the most demanding photographers.

Incorporating feedback from photographers worldwide, the EOS 5D Mark III offers improved performance in virtually every area. A new 22.3 Megapixel (MP) full-frame sensor offers the ideal balance of resolution for stills and HD movies and up to 6 frames per second (fps) shooting, whilst a 61-point AF system and 63-zone metering provide greater speed, flexibility and accuracy. Powered by the latest DIGIC 5+ processing technology, the EOS 5D Mark III also features enhanced video functions, offeringimproved image quality alongside greater audio control – redefining creative possibilities for photographers and amateur videographers alike.

"The EOS 5D Mark III represents a big step forward for the EOS 5D series" said Kieran Magee, Marketing Director, Professional Imaging, Canon Europe. "The EOS 5D Mark II is an exceptional camera and we've listened carefully to feedback from its passionate community of users to improve performance in every area. This camera has been designed to meet virtually any creative challenge – it's faster, more responsive and features the tools to adapt to everything from studio photography to creative videography, while producing results of the highest quality."

Enhanced performance

With its comprehensively upgraded specification, the EOS 5D Mark III is the ideal toolfor the growing number of photographers shooting both stills and movies. It incorporates a number of the features launched with Canon's revolutionary EOS-1D X,providing vastly improved performance, flexibility, handling and durability.

The camera's newly-developed 22.3MP full-frame sensor provides increased resolution and finer detail, enabling the capture of a wide range of scenes, from sweeping landscapes to beautiful portraits. Higher speed continuous shooting also offers expanded creative possibilities. With an increased 8-channel read out, the camera comfortably handles a maximum full resolution speed of up to 6fps in bursts of 18 RAW images or over 16,000 JPEGs1, without the need for additional accessories. Additionally, the sensor's advanced architecture offers a huge native ISO range of 100-25,600, expandable to 102,400, making it possible to capture clean, high quality pictures, even in extreme low-light conditions.

The EOS 5D Mark III utilises the same 61-point wide-area AF system as the flagship EOS-1D X, providing exceptional sensitivity, precision and speed. One of the most advanced AF systems currently available, it features an impressive 41 cross-type points and five dual cross-type points, providing unsurpassed accuracy across the frame. The customisable AF pre-sets introduced in the EOS-1D X are also available, helping the capture of traditionally challenging subjects, and providing additional reliability in ituations where subject movement can be unpredictable.

Highly accurate exposures are provided by Canon's acclaimed iFCL metering system, which incorporates a 63-zone Dual-Layer sensor linked to each point of the AF system. Focus information gathered from the AF system is analysed alongside colour and luminance signals measured by the metering sensor itself, enabling the EOS 5D Mark III to deliver consistently accurate skin tones and excellent results in a wide range of shooting situations.

Creative performance without compromise

The EOS 5D Mark III features Canon's latest DIGIC 5+ image processor, which powers a range of new functions without affecting the camera's performance. 14-bit A/D conversion provides smoother tonal gradation and transitions between colours, while in-camera HDR shooting combines three different exposures and allows one of five preset tone maps to be applied, enabling photographers to capture all the detail in high contrast scenes. With in-camera RAW processing and editing capability, photographers also have the option to immediately begin post-processing their images while still on a shoot.

The increased power of DIGIC 5+ also enables a range of tools which contribute to higher image quality. Lens peripheral illumination correction, Lens chromatic aberration correction (lateral and axial) and high ISO noise reduction are all performed in-camera without affecting performance, allowing photographers to continue shooting without any camera lag. Additionally, in-camera image rating via a dedicated button makes it easy for photographers to organise images ahead of post-production.

The EOS 5D Mark III features a new Creative Photo button, which enables users to quickly select Picture Styles and capture multiple exposures, as well as offering direct access to the HDR shooting mode. In playback, pressing the Creative Photo button displays a new comparative playback function, displaying two images side-by-side to allow photographers to view, magnify and compare the quality of different exposures mid-shoot.

For situations where photographers want to avoid being noticed, such as weddings, the EOS 5D Mark III also features a new silent shooting mode that dramatically reduces the sound of the shutter and mirror, ensuring they can work quietly in the background. A continuous silent mode is also available, enabling photographers to capture fastermoving subjects without attracting attention.

Next generation EOS Movies

The EOS 5D Mark III builds on the reputation of the EOS 5D Mark II, with a range of new features introduced following feedback received from photographers to provide even better Full HD video performance. As well as offering the depth-of-field control loved by video professionals, the new full-frame sensor combines with the vast processing power of DIGIC 5+ to improve image quality by virtually eradicating the presence of moiré, false colour and other artefacts. The addition of a movie mode switch and a recording button also offers greater usability, enabling videographers to begin shooting immediately when movie mode is engaged.

Additional movie functions include manual exposure control and an enhanced range of high bit-rate video compression options, with intraframe (ALL-I) and interframe (IPB) methods both supported. Variable frame rates range from 24fps to 60fps, and the addition of SMPTE timecode support provides greater editing flexibility and easier integration into multi-camera shoots. Users can also check and adjust audio during recording via the camera's Quick Control screen and a headphone socket enables sound level monitoring both during and after shooting. Enhanced processing power provided by DIGIC 5+ also makes it possible to conveniently trim the length of recorded movies in-camera.

Professional build, easy operation

The EOS 5D Mark III has been built to offer photographers easy-handling and robust build quality. Its lightweight, high-grade magnesium body offers advanced weather proofing for protection against the elements, while the construction of the shutter has also been reinforced, with 150,000-cycle durability making it ideal for repeated, everyday use. An enhanced version of the Intelligent Viewfinder featured in the EOS 7D offers approximately 100% coverage, as well as an on-demand grid display via the builtin transparent LCD.

The same reinforced 8.11cm (3.2") Clear View II LCD screen as used by the EOS-1D X provides high quality framing and playback in all conditions. 1,040k-pixels provide the resolution to accurately check image sharpness and focus, while the gapless structure design introduced with the EOS-1D Mark IV prevents reflections and protects against dust or scratches. A headphone socket and locking mode dial have been included, while the inclusion of a UDMA 7-compatible CF card slot plus an SD card2 slot enables shooting to both cards simultaneously, auto switching when the one in use becomes full and the option to copy images from one card to the other in-camera.

Digital Lens Optimizer – new in Digital Photo Professional v3.11

The EOS 5D Mark III comes complete with the most advanced version of Digital Photo Professional (DPP) yet – Canon's free, in-box software enabling high-speed, high quality processing of RAW images. New in DPP v3.11 is Digital Lens Optimizer – a revolutionary new tool designed to drastically improve image resolution.

Digital Lens Optimizer (DLO) precisely imitates lens performance, with a series of complex mathematical functions replicating each stage of the journey of light through the optical path. Using this information DLO can correct a range of typical optical aberrations and loss of resolution caused by a camera's low pass filter, by applying an inverse function to each shot to take the image nearer to how the scene appears to the naked eye. This creates exceptionally detailed, high-quality images with highly manageable file sizes, providing photographers with maximum image quality and greater flexibility.

EOS System compatibility

As part of the EOS System, the EOS 5D Mark III is immediately compatible with over 60 EF Lenses, including the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM – the new, essential wide-angle zoom lens from Canon's famous L-series. The camera is also compatible with a newlyannounced range of accessories designed to offer extended creativity, including the Speedlite 600EX-RT – a high performance TTL flash with wireless radio connectivity. Additionally, the new Battery Grip BG-E11 offers greater handling flexibility alongside the ability to double the camera's battery life.

Canon EOS 5D Mark III – Key features:

  • 22.3 Megapixel full-frame sensor
  • 61-point autofocus
  • Up to 6fps continuous shooting
  • Native ISO 100-25,600 sensitivity
  • Full HD video with manual control
  • 14-bit DIGIC 5+ processor
  • Enhanced Weather sealing
  • 8.11cm (3.2-inch) 1,040,000-dot screen
  • HDR mode with presets

Canon EOS 5D Mark III specifications

Price
MSRPBody only: $3499, €3299, £2999 with 24-105mm: $4299
Body type
Body typeMid-size SLR
Body materialMagnesium alloy
Sensor
Max resolution5760 x 3840
Other resolutions3840 x 2560, 2880 x 1920, 1920 x 1280, 720 x 480
Image ratio w:h3:2
Effective pixels22 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors23 megapixels
Sensor sizeFull frame (36 x 24 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
ProcessorDigic 5+
Color spacesRGB,Adobe RGB
Color filter arrayRGB Color Filter Array
Image
ISOAuto, 100 - 25600 in 1/3 stops, plus 50, 51200, 102400 as option
White balance presets6
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationNo
Uncompressed formatRAW
JPEG quality levelsFine, Normal
File format
  • JPEG (Exif 2.3 [Exif Print] compliant)
  • Design rule for Camera File system (2.0)
  • RAW: RAW, sRAW1, sRAW2 (14bit, Canon original RAW 2nd edition)
  • Digital Print Order Format [DPOF] Version 1.1 compliant
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Phase Detect
  • Multi-area
  • Selective single-point
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
  • Live View
Autofocus assist lampby optional dedicated Speedlite
Digital zoomNo
Manual focusYes
Number of focus points61
Lens mountCanon EF
Focal length multiplier1×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3.2
Screen dots1,040,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeClear View II TFT LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeOptical (pentaprism)
Viewfinder coverage100%
Viewfinder magnification0.71×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/8000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Auto+
  • Program AE
  • Shutter priority AE
  • Aperture priority AE
  • Manual (Stills and Movie)
  • Custom (x3)
Built-in flashNo
External flashYes (Hot-shoe, Wireless plus Sync connector)
Flash X sync speed1/200 sec
Continuous drive6 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
  • Partial
Exposure compensation±5 (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing±3 (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
WB BracketingYes (3 frames in either blue/amber or magenta/green axis)
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (29.97, 25, 23.976 fps fps), 1280 x 720 (59.94, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (25, 30 fps)
FormatH.264
Videography notes1080 and 720 intra or inter frame, 480 inter frame
MicrophoneMono
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesCompact Flash Type I (UDMA compatible), SD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage includedNone
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (HDMI mini)
WirelessOptional
Wireless notesWireless File Transmitter WFT-E7
Remote controlYes (Remote control with N3 type contact, Wireless Controller LC-5, Remote Controller RC-6)
Physical
Environmentally sealedYes
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion LP-E6 rechargeable battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA)950
Weight (inc. batteries)950 g (2.09 lb / 33.51 oz)
Dimensions152 x 116 x 76 mm (5.98 x 4.57 x 2.99)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingYes (by cable and PC)
GPSOptional
GPS notesWith optional GP-E2 unit

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audijam
By audijam (Mar 2, 2012)

this is for people want 1DIV but don't wanna pay the price. the high ISO performance is incredible!

2 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

"The EOS 5D Mark III features a new Creative Photo button, which enables users to quickly select Picture Styles."

Wow, so for $3,500, this Canon camera will give you capabilities that every $200 and up point-and-shoot pocketable camera now has -- Picture Styles. Wow.... Veddy professional, indeed.

According to DP Review, the price will be $3,500 for the body alone. On the Canon web site, there is NO PRICE for this camera. And there is also NO PRICE still for the EOS 1D X that Canon had announced exactly four months ago! Maybe they are giving that one away for free, who really knows?

Considering that the $3,000 NIKON D800 dwarfs this new Canon EOS 5D in most technological aspects, not to mention that it looks much better, good luck to Canon for selling these "new" 5D bodies at $3,500 a pop.... or even close to it.

Only hard-core Canon fiends need to apply here, I suspect. :-((

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tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

And hard-core Nikon friends had better move on ...

4 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

I don't have anything from Nikon.... but this "new" Canon EOS 5D is still a dud. As only folks who use none of the Canikon gear can say it.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

On to the specs of this "new" EOS 5D wonder.....

"It can shoot 6 frames per second"
Wow, only 6 fps? In the year 2012? That's nothing to write home about, is it now? Re. video, it can shoot 1080p at 24, 25, and 30 frames per second. But so could the previous Canon EOS 5D that came out 3.5 years ago, right? The new 5D cannot even do 1080p60 video -- another fatal mishap. Nor will the new 5D be able to put out uncompressed HDMI, like the Nikons will be able to do, wow!!! All you can do with the new EOS 5D is what you could with the old one -- record video only internally, not externally.

For external recording capabilities with a connected video field recorder at superior bitrates, you will need to go with the NIKON D800 or NIKON D4, correct? Giant advantage: NIKON.

Mono audio recording only -- yeah, right. I would have thought that SOMEONE at Canon must have heard of the word "stereo" by now, huh? But at least they give you a headphone jack, like the Nikons do.

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AkinaC
By AkinaC (Mar 2, 2012)

Another nikon fanboy.....ORZ
Guess what? D800 also is Mono audio recording, no 1080/60p, so shut up and don't moan until you'd used one

3 upvotes
Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

franis carver... get a job and go out shot with you crappy point and shoot camera. you sound like a retard.

you mention things like 1080/60 that no nikon can do.... what are you some nikon troll on a roll?

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lensberg
By lensberg (Mar 2, 2012)

This 5D Mark III spells pure photographic perfection at its very best... Nikon simply ups the megapixel ante in a desperate attempt to recapture lost ground... and the nikon fanboys go crazy... 36 MP is shere overkill... full frame or not... thats just way too many pixels crammed onto a sensor... face facts... the D800 will never outperform the 5D Mark III in the high ISO stakes arena... DR is also severely hampered as a result... short of a miracle nothing will save you're newest tool... What you've got with the Nikon is a marketing gimmick... nothing more... its IQ is average... you require extraordinary glass that will cost a bomb in order to extract the full potential of that sensor... the overall cost just doesn't seem worth the investment... The Canon on its part is brilliance... why tamper with a winning formula when you can just fine tune it with all the necessary bells and whistles to cater to a much larger customer base...

3 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

"This 5D Mark III spells pure photographic perfection at its very best."

You definitely must be on the Canon corporate payroll for saying that, right?

Anyhow... "new" 5D is pretty much like "old" 5D. Especially when it comes to its video features. Canon is trying to make a big stink about the "new" 5D camera's video capabilities.... which is really not better than what you can now do with the Mark II.

Nikon D800/D4 also cannot record 1080p60 video. But they can record low-compression and even fully uncompressed Full-HD video externally. No can't do with any of the Canons, unless you spend $16,000 for the EOS C300.

Which is still a lot more dough than you can get into a Nikon D800 or D4, right?

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Eden S
By Eden S (Mar 2, 2012)

I love retarded fanboys like lensberg up there. I myself shoot Nikon because when the time came, it simply had a better camera for my own needs with the d700 vs 5dmkii at the time. I still am interested in Canon which is why I read this stuff. It's ignorant to think that Canon owners are the only ones allowed to read and comment on Canon gear like they own the planet. Same for Nikon fanboys. Anyway, his rant about 5dmkii high iso being more useful than the d800's high MP marketing ploy is the exact same thing Nikon people were saying when the d700/mkii were released. Hypocrites, lol. Either way, neither camera is out so bragging on behalf of either brand for the unreleased camera's results is the epitome of "ignorant fanboy."

Also, whining that the MP is useless without "expensive" lenses means you must prefer cheap lenses. If you can afford it, Canon, Nikon or otherwise, they all cost the same for premium glass, loser.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

the 800D can NOT record 1080/60.. correct... so why do you mention it?

and if your quality standards are so high that you SEE the difference to uncompressed video and can make use of it..... you should also have the money to buy a better video system.

i mean for some youtube crap you hardly need the quality... you have to shot al least commercials.

this is all whining on a very high niveau....

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vineman23
By vineman23 (Mar 4, 2012)

Did I miss something 6fps for Mk3 vs 4fps on d800 now the 6fps looks pretty quick in comparison I would have thought - should both brands pick up the pace yeah probably but at the moment they are the two biggest sellers by far so they compete against each other. Also neither of the ff mk3 or d800 can do 1080p60 so that is a bit of a mute point also. Uncompressed HDMI could be an advantage for videographers but I will leave that to them to discuss.
IMO it always comes down to feel of the camera when it is in your hands and for me that is why I went Canon because the trigger button was in a more intuitive and comfortable place for my hands - with any system you can take great photos and as proof you only need look at image libaries and check out what they were shot with! any new release always gets the arguments going but there will be a majority of people out there that will keep all there existing gear until it stops working :)

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Edmond Leung
By Edmond Leung (Mar 2, 2012)

I like this camera and its high ISO output; but it's too heavy and too bulky to carry around. I really respect those professional who carry such bulky and heavy cameras/lenses to shot the pictures.

2 upvotes
GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (Mar 2, 2012)

Me again, as a photographer and Canon user for many years I feel like Canon just punched me in the face!

4 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

Punch them back! Buy the Nikon D800 or D4 instead! That'll teach them.... maybe.

0 upvotes
GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (Mar 2, 2012)

I'm really considering it!

4 upvotes
GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (Mar 2, 2012)

What! 22 MP only!How's that going to compete with Nikon's D800? I know 36MP might be overkill for the monent considering the resolving power of current lenses. Still disappointing though. The 5D Mark II had nearly twice the resolution of the 5D, so I was at least expecting a 50% increase for the Mark III. Is this Canon admitting it's lenses aren't good enough resolution wise? Still I suppose low-light ability will eclipse the Nikon at least. An example of Canon shifting emphasis from the photographer to the videographer maybe...It's very popular with those guys I've heard.

3 upvotes
tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

Still stuck in the megapixel race? Some prefer low light performance. There are practically no lenses (not even from Nikon) sharp enough to utilise every 36 megapixel. The same goes for (auto)focus accuracy in situations other than a tripod and a resolution chart. For making billboard posters, get a medium format (e.g. Hasselblad).

3 upvotes
photopapa
By photopapa (Mar 2, 2012)

I am so disappointed in this camera. It is $1000 too expensive, and about 15 mp too shy. Now, what? I have been a canon fan for 20+ years. To switch of Nikon or just wait for a better camera? I feel Canon has left the photographers behind in favor of videographers. Too bad.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

Speaking for the videographers.... unfortunately this is not much of an improvement when it comes to video, photopapa.

The old 5D could shoot 1080p at 24, 25, and frames per second. Which is exactly what this new 5D can do also.

The new 5D cannot "over-crank" and give you 1080p60 recording, something that the much less pricey Sony SLT Alpha 65 and Alpha 77 cameras can easily deliver.

Worst is the fact that where you can connect an external video field recorder to the Nikon D800 and D4 and record pristine video, even totally uncompressed video, you can only do the MPEG-4 type of video recording with high compression and only internally to CF or SD card with this 5D.

So, the possibility of uncompressed video recording with the $3,000 Nikon D800 -- or MPEG-4 compression recording only with the EOS 5D. Your choice. The video crowd will surely go with the Nikon D800 and D4.

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tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

Some photographers will actually use this camera to make great *PHOTOGRAPHS*. If videography is your thing, consider a dedicated tool like the Canon EOS C300 or Cinema EOS Sytem.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

francis carver .. you spend so much time on the canon thread you must really fear canon. otherwise i don´t know why you moron spend so much time talking about something you don´t care about?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

@ Henry M Hertz: your depth of knowledge about all things related to Canon cameras and optics are truly legendary here on DP review.

@ tfelz: There is no "Canon Cinema EOS System." It only exists in some Canon publicist's head.

Yeah, you can perhaps spend $16,000 for a Canon EOS C300 camera body and $47,500 for the matching zoom lens. Wow, camera and lens would come to $63,500 already phew... But then what? You would be still recording with a camera having a sensor smaller than FF 135, and you would still only record at a maximum quality & frame rate of 1080p30.

But I guess for those willing to throw even more money Canon's way, that would be a good alternative package indeed.

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Zerg2905
By Zerg2905 (Mar 2, 2012)

Mr. Carver, do you know the story of Audi vs Volkswagen vs Skoda (believe me this is not off topic)? Just a hint: which one is "better" -and eventually why-, in your opinion? You surely know about the "perceived value" of an item, right? Facts vs perception... P.S. (solution): New Skoda Superb has beaten after launch all (comparable) Audi and VW brothers at ("street", not the silly 3500 EUR as shown today) price point / perceived value, and these results were provided by some Germans (that made the VW boss very angry)! And the new Skoda Superb only has 22 MP when compared with, let's say, an A6... P.P.S: I'm exagerating, but just a bit, hoping you will easily get my idea. :) :) :)

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

well skoda belongs to VW... same is true for audi.
they now what they are doing.

and canon is doing the same... for the MP junkies there will be a high MP camera from canon later this year.

together with the C300 it is a far better system for serious cinematographer then nikons system.

and don´t forget the 4k cinema DSLR that is coming.

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Zerg2905
By Zerg2905 (Mar 3, 2012)

Mr. Hertz, I concur. Heavy game these days, no matter what.

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Toronto Corporate Photos
By Toronto Corporate Photos (Mar 12, 2012)

Totally love to spend all my money to Canon

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fuxicek
By fuxicek (Mar 2, 2012)

today is the 25th anniversary of Canon's EOS system, which started with the Canon EOS 650 in 1987..... I want Canon 650D and not this brick ... ;)

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Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Mar 2, 2012)

for photographer (i guess we have a few here) not pixelpeeper:

http://blog.jeffascough.com/photographers/2012/03/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-review.html

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Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

Great camera! This will be my new dSLR maybe an xmas present. Finally replacing my 5D though I'll still continue to shoot negative and slide film. The price will probably be in the $2700 range by December.

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Mr Fartleberry
By Mr Fartleberry (Mar 2, 2012)

Glad to see the new "intelligent" viewfinder now has grid lines — just like my old D70!

1 upvote
justmeMN
By justmeMN (Mar 2, 2012)

OT: I wish Canon would have announced a T4i today too. :-(

2 upvotes
tesch
By tesch (Mar 2, 2012)

This looks like it came right from Canon.

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tranced
By tranced (Mar 2, 2012)

its called a press release.

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Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Mar 2, 2012)

we really have some bright people here.. LOL

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tesch
By tesch (Mar 2, 2012)

then why are you here?

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Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Mar 2, 2012)

imo canon has by far the better lineup in 2012.

with the coming 4K video DSLR, the high megapixel 5D X(?) and the C300 that can take EF lenses the canon system is way ahead of nikon when it comes to video.

i rather buy into EF lenses i can use on a C300 in the future (when i upgrade) then a D800... even when it has uncompressed video.

the high iso example from the 5D MK3 look impressive.
6 FPS are more worth to me then 14mp more.

now im only curious how good the new AF system is.
i know it will be great but how great, thats the question.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

You are apparently quite confused about things, dear.

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tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

Your love for Nikon is quite charming, Francis.

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Stephen_C
By Stephen_C (Mar 2, 2012)

A 5DII with improved autofocus is a great idea. Making it $3500 makes it a non-starter for me. IMHO the 5Diii is simply not $1700 better than a 7D.

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Karo Kendimian
By Karo Kendimian (Mar 2, 2012)

What a de-motivator from Canon before the weekend!

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Peter S Carter
By Peter S Carter (Mar 2, 2012)

Hard to believe that there could be much improvement to the Mark II, but trusting Canon, I pre-ordered immediately. They have never yet failed to come thru.

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DaveBowman
By DaveBowman (Mar 2, 2012)

You're perhaps conveniently forgetting the black dot issue with the 5D Mk2 that plagued early buyers? :)

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Yiotis
By Yiotis (Mar 2, 2012)

you trust Canon? Canon manages to fail many times especially with high end bodies.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

"Trusting Canon???" Many people trusted Adolf Hitler, too, trusting that he will make the world a better place. :-((

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Eden S
By Eden S (Mar 2, 2012)

@Francis Carver,
Yeah, but for kids today who can't appreciate things like the tragedy of war, they are probably happy that Hitler gave them games like the Call of Duty series!

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Photodog7
By Photodog7 (Mar 2, 2012)

Their new flash on the other hand, AWESOME. There I am jealous of the Canon crowd.

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Photodog7
By Photodog7 (Mar 2, 2012)

I think these forums are fun. Besides that, I am a Nikon user. I switched over when the D3s came out. Amazing camera. Now that both companies are introducing their boys, in my opinion. Canon won in the 1DX vs. D4 dogfight. Even as a Nikon user, the 1Dx really seems like a AWESOME camera. But Nikon seems to have won the D800 vs. 5D3 fight. Honestly, Even with that and being a Nikon user, And I love my Nikon, We really need to wait and see the REAL WORLD REVIEWS that were not done by Nikon or Canon sponsored photographers. I want to see the negative feedback on both cameras, or all 4 I should say. Though I must say not in canons favor, on their site the only high Iso pics are of a night sky, it really looked like they were using a pic to hide the noise. and why would the other high iso pics say coming soon, Do they need time to doctor them up first? I would not have wrote that. The d800 high iso pics at 36mp used real world scenes and looked pretty darn good.

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Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Mar 2, 2012)

tehy doctor them up... sure.. maybe nikon does that?

how stupid must one be to think that they show doctored photos?
it would be obvious in no time. you are just trolling i guess....

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photopapa
By photopapa (Mar 2, 2012)

Photodog7, I have been a canon user for 20 years; yet I feel you are right about the D800. I am thinking of switching to this camera. I have all canon gear though. Did you sell all your glass and flash and everything to switch over?

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Guy Swarbrick
By Guy Swarbrick (Mar 2, 2012)

1Dx better than a D4... how?

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DaveBowman
By DaveBowman (Mar 2, 2012)

100g heavier than the mk2, no swivel screen and still the same pathetic piece of rubber (I suspect) to cover the VF during long exposures instead of the internal shutter on the 1D range (why??) Weather sealing is a good plus point but, other than that, there's really not much to tempt me here. Pity.

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Jim Kranick
By Jim Kranick (Mar 2, 2012)

Why the pathetic piece of rubber? Paobably because Nikon has a built-in internal shutter. Just like the missing Mirror Lockup button (but they do have that Direct Print buton).
And I shoot Canon but they still don't do simple, inexpensive fixes that would make using their cameras nicer.

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Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

I have done long expsures with Canon SLRs without covering the eye piece without any light leaking in. Today's SLRs are built well. My very old Pentax K1000 however needs the viewfinder blocked or it'll show ligh leak streaks on the image.

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djvibe
By djvibe (Mar 2, 2012)

Yeah I agree with dave.. think I'll stick with my 7D for now. I was hoping they would add the the Flipout screen that the 60D has. That might have sold me.

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DaveBowman
By DaveBowman (Mar 2, 2012)

@ Robert Hoy - Both my 5D Mk1 and Mk2 have shown considerable light leak when not covering the VF under certain lighting conditions. This can differ between cameras, but I suspect you've either been lucky and had a camera with good sealing, or conditions that have allowed you to escape the problem thus far. Either way, there's just no excuse for Canon not to provide a more robust solution than that pathetic piece of rubber.

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nellydesign
By nellydesign (Mar 2, 2012)

Never understood why Canon has never put a built in flash on any of their FF cameras to compete with the likes of the Nikon D700/800. Seems like a built-in becomes even more useful with a larger, more light sensitive sensor.

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DaveBowman
By DaveBowman (Mar 2, 2012)

There's plenty of lower end models with this feature. IMO it has no place on a camera at this level and only serves as a weak point to let the weather in.

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TGThomas
By TGThomas (Mar 2, 2012)

I have been a nikon user all my life, 30+yrs. I have hated Nikon since the digital camera came out because the lags in Nikon in new technology in DSLRs. This time though, I think Nikon did something good for nikon users with D800.

Specifically for the built in flash, I found it extremely useful, especially when you pair it with an external flash or flashes using wireless command. Not only save you money to buy a wireless command modul, but also give you extra light source to make pictures better. And the built in flash is very useful when you need it casually by itself.

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Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Mar 2, 2012)

i have yet to use a build in or on-camera flash for something other then triggering other flashes.

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Guy Swarbrick
By Guy Swarbrick (Mar 2, 2012)

Me neither Gothmoth. So how do you use an absent built-in flash as a trigger, out of interest?

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MP Burke
By MP Burke (Mar 2, 2012)

Having used a 35mm film camera that weighed 500g and a medium format camera that was about 800g (body only weights), I find it a pity that 35mm format digital cameras are all so big and heavy. Add on a couple of the heavy L lenses and this is not a system I would like to have to take on a long walk in the Welsh hills. At least the Nikon D800 is lighter than the previous 35mm Nikons. The 5D mk III seems to be going in the wrong direction, towards a faster motor drive and increased weight.

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (Mar 2, 2012)

Nice, but for a few Dollars more, I can get the D800 and the Atomos Ninja and record 4:2:2 uncompressed video

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topstuff
By topstuff (Mar 2, 2012)

Lack of uncompressed video out on the 5D3 is a major fail.

Nikon has uncompressed video out.

Canon 5D2 did great in DSLR video space, but this is a major gift to Nikon that could hurt Canon bad.

Canon set to be beaten at their own game.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Mar 2, 2012)

Check a recent Luminous Landscape test of uncompressed capture versus AVCHD. Uncompressed capture offered no perceivable IQ advantage, but added lots of cost and heavy equipment.

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topstuff
By topstuff (Mar 2, 2012)

I see your point, but videographers would disagree.

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (Mar 2, 2012)

it depends on what you shoot, if you have a lot of movement, a dance sequence, for instance, there will be a noticeable difference when shooting uncompressed at a high bit rate, static objects, not worth the hassle, native codec will do.

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topstuff
By topstuff (Mar 2, 2012)

Yes - which is why this is a BIG error by Canon. 5D2 pioneered the way in DSLR video, but the Nikon D800 could take it on from here...

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

if you want more serious video you buy a C300 or the upcoming 4K camera from canon.

the video features are better then 99% of al wanabe youtube filmers here could dream of.

you people all sound like your doing cinema movies.
when in fact your filming boring commercials at best.

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OlavM
By OlavM (Mar 2, 2012)

The native (and yes, compressed) video from Mk II is commonly named RAW - "lossless" a.s.o., I have learned from a semi-pro videographer. He says approx. 4:1 compression is Ok to most of his work ? How come ?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

Canon EOS 5D Mark III is darn awful for video.... the maximum quality and frame rate it can record is still only 1080p30, and it can only record internal to the camera, not externally like the Nikon D800 or D4 can. 5D Mark II could also do 1080p30 -- so where is the progress after 3 1/2 years?

Canon had just laid down and died front of Nikon when it comes to video capabilities in an SLR. Everyone who wants to get a DSLR for high-end video shooting will pick one of the two Nikons.

All the Canon 5D records in is the awful MPEG-4 high-compression codec.... you know, the same codec that your $200 point & shoots also use.

I am not getting the new 5D's sky-hi$3,500 price, either. Looking at all the specs, if the Nikon D800 is list priced at $3,000, the Canon EOS 5D Mark III should not be a penny over $2,500. More like $2,200.

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joemo2007
By joemo2007 (Mar 2, 2012)

I hope £3000 spent on 5Dlll will solve the AF problem, and I can finally feel like a professional

With the 5d ll, None of my prime lenses will autofocus. I have to mess about in live view before each click, then it's tack sharp, even if my model is yawning.

Would be nice to be assured by canon before committing. I believe this is was universal problem that canon wouldn't evencomment on.

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AndrewDarlow
By AndrewDarlow (Mar 2, 2012)

Hi Joe: I've had very few problems with the 5DM2 and many lenses (L and not L). I recommend using the center point focus point and turn off AI servo if it is on. I offer consulting and guarantee results if you are interested. For more info, see the link in my signature.

Hope that helps,
Andrew
Editor, The Imaging Buffet
http://imagingbuffet.com/consulting-info/

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joemo2007
By joemo2007 (Mar 2, 2012)

AI servo is off. Will give that a go. Cheers for your advice.

The centre point is the best by far, but still no way near on 85mm 1.2 and 50mm1.2 fully open.

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topstuff
By topstuff (Mar 2, 2012)

5D3 pics on the Canon website are not very good.

If they really represent what this camera can do, then Canon has a problem.

And how can Canon justify charging £2399 for the new 24-70mm zoom lens !

Complete madness.

I predict the 5D3 will fall in price fast.

I have no doubt it is a nice camera. I liked my 5d2 a lot. But I am not committed , I sold a lot of my L glass. I can go to Canon or Nikon next ( even Sony if the A99 when it comes is good) and I must say that this new Canon is NOT enough to tempt me yet. Not at these prices.

Nikon looks like a better camera for less money for ME. And I don't think I am alone in that.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

the D800 picture look not better.
they show some ugly graininess.

yes i could downsample... blahblah.... but why should i bother with bigger files when i have to downsample anyway?

the high iso samples look way better then the ones from the D4.

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camera4me
By camera4me (Mar 2, 2012)

I am not going to be fooled by Canon this time! $3500:( it seems Nikon is ahead this time.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

Nikon D800 = $3,000.

Canon 5D = $3,500.

What's wrong with this picture?

Of course.... the same Canon is now charging $16,000 for their EOS C300 that is probably not worth a penny over 6 grand.

Looks like at Canon, the engineers went over to Nikon, and the Canon bean-counters are running amok with their wild prices.

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u007
By u007 (Mar 2, 2012)

Damn.. in the UK it is £2999. A d800 is only £2399

If you want the new 24-70L it is £2399.

So for the price of a 5d3 with 24-70 I could buy a d800 and two Nikon 1.4 primes.

Also, the samples on the Canon website look rubbish. Very plasticy. The one of the girl in the red jacket is gross. Very mushy even though it's ISO100. Tons of noise reduction on the higher ISO samples too. The northern light photo looks like a screenshot from a computer game. Maybe it's jpeg compression, but they really aren't a good representation of a camera.

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DioCanon
By DioCanon (Mar 2, 2012)

whats the problem then?
I can buy also a 5DmIII with 2 1.2L primes.
before you write stupid things, check the price.

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photo nuts
By photo nuts (Mar 2, 2012)

I don't see any problem with the girl in the red jacket.

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Ashley Pomeroy
By Ashley Pomeroy (Mar 2, 2012)

So it's basically a 5D II+, or 5D IIN in Canon-speak. I think I'll keep my 5D II.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

more like a 5DX in Canon-speak, but hold the fps lower than 1DX, and keep the higher res...

i'm keeping my 5DII too... but definitely like the 5D III

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

well if better AF and all the other improved stuff does not mean anything to you.... you might go as well with a point and shoot camera!

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

"You might go as well with a point and shoot camera!"

I agree, Henry. 6 frames per second stills and a maximum 1080p30 video quality? For Three Thousand Five Hundred Dollars? Point & shoots one-tenth this price can deliver that.... and they come with a lens to boot.

You are paying a good $1,000-$1,500 just for the Canon name with this one. Specs-wise, there just isn't much commendable here, really.

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (Mar 2, 2012)

Same old, same old... Just another too expensive, conservative ( or old…? ) design FF camera, nothing to write home about!
With a Sony A900 and an A77, what else do I need? Well, perhaps an A99…!

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

A900 lacks advanced real time full image exposure evaluation direct from its sensor via ExpSim LV

Nikon added Canon's ExpSim LV exclusively for their D3/D3x/D3s, but Sony left the A900 a very old film SLR like non-LV dSLR; likewise, its A850.

Meanwhile, both 5DMkII/1DsMkIII had ExpSim LV (while 5DMkII included 1080p ExpSim LV video)... something Nikon only now offers exclusively in the D4 (not D800/D800E)

Both D800/D800E are non-ExpSim LV update on a D700, but stuffed with 36Mp, which neither Sony or Nikon could even handle properly at the 24Mp level even compared to the 21Mp 5D2

A77/NEX7 does have ExpSim LV... but it is not as well implemented as either Nikon or Canon (obviously), perhaps A99/NEX9 will have it too. but A77/NEX7 IQ offer smudgy 'impressionist' images at higher ISOs, so Sony still isn't able to handle its 24Mp that well unless one sticks to lower ISOs in better light.

D4 image comparisons are already up at image-resources... and the D4 is not faring too well at all

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

sony.... lol.
well you need lenses that´s for sure.

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Paul Guba
By Paul Guba (Mar 2, 2012)

Thing is Nikon still has the D700 selling now at 2K what if they were to rebrand and add video D700s as an entry level FX? Nothing probably because Canon users will continue to believe their system is best. Seems like Canon thinks the most important selling point is video.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

if Nikon offered D3/D4 ExpSim LV of Canon... on a D700 or D800, then at least they finally offer a 5D2 competitor, but they haven't done that yet, so it leaves both 5D2 and 5D3 for entry level FF alone for both ExpSim LV Stills and ExpSim LV 1080p video.

Nikon finally joins Canon with its D4, albeit, only FF 16Mp w/ExpSim LV (for stills, and maybe video, it did for D3s)

a long while ago i asked, if D700 is updated to a D800xs (1080p w/ D3 series ExpSim LV from Canon)... then, it will finally offer an enthusiasts FF dSLR at 5D2 level (5D3 ups the 5D2 spec, no other FF dSLR for enthusiast offers that at the moment, not even Nikon)

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

and nikon user will still think there system is worse.. and be right.

what if hasselblad will sell theri MF cameras for 3K.. what if ferrari makes a 10k F70?

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newe
By newe (Mar 2, 2012)

"enthusiast" at $3,500.....don't think so.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

DPR's original price release listing for 'enthusiasts':

5D1: $3299 (US) / €3459 (EU).
5D2: US: $ 2,699, EU: € 2,499, UK: £ 2,299. (Now: US$2499)
5D3: US$3499 / €3299 / £2999.99.

they paid it back then... the same will most likely pay now

unless enthusiasts all of a sudden shifted downwards in price category

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newe
By newe (Mar 2, 2012)

maybe on this board...but enthusiasts in general pop will not pay. This is a lot for non-pros; unless you call "regular non-enthusiasts" "hobbyists."

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Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

The same "hobbyists" that will pay $2000 to $3000 for a set of high end golf irons? ;) Golf irons that won't improve their golf game one bit but they'll feel better playing; however, a high end digital SLR can improve photography a bit with better autofocus, more exposure latitude, ability to use much better lenses their their digicam.

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photonius
By photonius (Mar 2, 2012)

I think they left the resolution low (at 22 Mp), so that the lens testing sites don't have to upgrade and redo all the lens tests with a new body....
:-)

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

40MP is already tested anyway, and systems with that already see limits on test targets designed for 40Mp+

e.g. Pentax 39.5Mp 645D

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Lea5
By Lea5 (Mar 2, 2012)

The reason the most gearheads have with this camera is, that they can't go over to the Nikon forum and point the finger at them "my cam has a bigger x...<---fill in...than your camera.
Photographers think the 5DIII has everything they need to please their clients and are very happy with this release.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Mar 2, 2012)

Nikon D800 vs. Canon 5D III
in the side-by-side comparison tool:

http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=canon_eos5dmkiii&products=nikon_d800

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

5760x3840:
hmmm, folks doing time-lapse could choose full-resolution crops QFHD (3840x2160) time-lapse video even sideways portrait view along the horizontal axis set upright as an option
not just the usual landscape orientation
meaning, one could even have a fixed portrait view with no panning mechanism at all, and pan-via-shifting the crop across the frame pointing at a fixed FOV.

meanwhile, just looked at regular 1080p video as it came up less than an hour? ago?:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/player_Mario_Nette/movie.html?high

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/player_COLOR_OF_HOPE/movie.html?high

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/technical/inside_canon_eos_5d_mark_iii.do

i like really what i see so far (and the HDR function too)

thx from
http://www.eoshd.com/content/7260/canon-5d-mk-iii-sample-videos

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Cliff Watson
By Cliff Watson (Mar 2, 2012)

Canon, really? This is the best you can do? Is there a real "new" camera coming like a 3D or a 9D that will keep serious photographers in the fold?

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Mar 2, 2012)

serious photographer like you?
who talk BS all day about a camera they can not afford?

that is what you are meaning?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

Henry, this new Canon camera is just not too good on paper. And the price of $3,500 for it is just plainly ridiculous. Its video capabilities are barely better than the 3.5-year old camera is is replacing.

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Schwa
By Schwa (Mar 2, 2012)

Those links are wrong for Amazon above... they still link to the Mark II...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B007FGYZFI/02-4686-20

links to the 5D Mark III. Very exciting!

-- Schwa

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ihv
By ihv (Mar 2, 2012)

I don't mind the price, but I don't really see what makes it up.

Evolutionary update after 4 years is worth at maximum the price of the predecessor.

Btw. where is the F-sync? Why built-in mic downgrade to mono? Was it really necessary to change that? What about DR, no word in the announcment, huh? Why I have a bad feeling Canon has put some premium features only because they felt they cannot do anymore without because of competition?

I might first time pass the upgrade having owned both the first & second 5Ds.
For fun shooting mirrorless has a lot more innovation and pretty capable IQ.
Now looking at the SLR dinosources the mirrorless might take over some serious stuff too.

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Denton Taylor
By Denton Taylor (Mar 2, 2012)

I can't believe no one's complaining about the price hike! The 5D I and II were $2500 bodies. This is 30% more! I won't be upgrading from my mkII, altho it would be nice to have decent focusing for a change.

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Felipe Rodríguez
By Felipe Rodríguez (Mar 2, 2012)

I've complained... :)

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topstuff
By topstuff (Mar 2, 2012)

Pricing is looking pretty crazy.

The new lenses are very expensive too.

A D800 and 24-70 at list prices, is around $1000 cheaper.

I predict that the Canon price will have to fall if Canon want to sell a lot of cameras. But then, maybe not, maybe 5D2 was too cheap and not profitable?

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

DPR:

5D1: $3299 (US) / €3459 (EU).
5D2: US: $ 2,699, EU: € 2,499, UK: £ 2,299. (Now: US$2499)
5D3: US$3499 / €3299 / £2999.99.

5D2: C$2799.99 (C$2800) @ before 2008-Nov-06
5D2: C$3099.99 (C$3100) @ after 2008-Nov-06
5D2: C$3299.99 (C$3300) @ by 2009-May-02 (6 months later)

I happen to catch the C$2800 price before it jumped to C$3100
on a pre-order special from Black's Photo, $100 off, making it C$2699.99 (C$2700) + taxes.

Which at the time, translated into US$ currency: $C1.17/US$:
making my order about US$2308

Rates fluctuated wildly back then quite a bit from C$1.30/US$ in the week prior down to C$1.15/US$; so it could also have been US$2077 (earlier) to US$2347 (just the day before or so)

While Canadian prices varied wildly, those in the USA benefited from Canon holding it at US$2699, and slowly dropping to the current US$2499

Even though everyone knew they could get a much lower street price online below US$2699 back then; but for the ROW (Rest of World) prices were higher.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Mar 2, 2012)

The Yen is up against the dollar, and I'd imaging other currencies. Because the Japanese had to bring cash home to pay for earthquake related expenses.

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Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

neither were $2500. 5D was $3299 and 5D mk II was $2699 at launch. Dollar has fallen to the Yen big time over the past few years which is why a lot of photo gear has risen in price namely lenses and Nikon recently jacked the prices of existing digital SLRs by $100 to $200.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

The same Canon is still trying to unload (dump?) their EOS C300 camera body on the uninitiated for $16.000. And their matching Canon zoom lenses for it for $47,500.

If you really need the "Canon" name on the camera.... just send them a check for $100,000 and ask them to pick some cameras and lenses until they aggregate to a 100K.

I think this company has by now lost its way so bad, I seriously doubt they will ever find it.

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trungthu
By trungthu (Mar 2, 2012)

I think, maybe this is a wrong strategy of Canon as Nikon.
- The resolution has "no change", while "double" in D800.
- Full HD is like the older version (Mark II), like in D800.
Why don't they choose Nikon D800?
Not "new version" from 5DII.

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Tape5
By Tape5 (Mar 2, 2012)

No self respecting videographer will ever use 5D III or IV or XXCM ! We can bag and belittle the megapixel feature until the cows come home because right now it is very trendy to do so. And very trendy to want video. You want good video you have only two choices : rent or pay over 50 large.
Sorry Canon , not very good, dropping photography standards for the sake of amateur videographers. Nikon D800E reviews will be closely read by me when the camera hits the market.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

Canon has the right video camera for you: EOS C300. Price for that one is $16,000, plus $47,500 for the matching zoom lens (PL-mount or F-mount, your choice).

But I suppose since not everyone amongst us can "drop 50 large" on a dedicated video camera package, like the Canon EOS C300 + zoom lens, some of us might have to look at these dirt cheap alternatives priced at $6,500 and under.

Anyhow, the $16,000m Canon EOS C300 shoots 1080p30 video and can take F-mount lens. So can the 5D.

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JackM
By JackM (Mar 2, 2012)

I'm in. But Canon, didn't you get the memo? The D800 only costs $3000.

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Richt2000
By Richt2000 (Mar 2, 2012)

In the UK, the D800 is £2300 and the 5D3, £3000 !!!
Thats nearly a 1/3 more!

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Mar 2, 2012)

Canon used to be the affordable one, what happened ? Full-frame is always expensive but Canon's prices have always felt reasonable, tho now with the new 24-70 II, 24 IS, 28 IS, and 5D III prices, i'm not so sure ...

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Andrei Todea
By Andrei Todea (Mar 2, 2012)

You can't really compare these cameras until you see the samples. Before seeing the samples I believe that a new 36MP camera doesn't stand a chance against a new 22MP camera (unless you are shooting landscape or you are a cheap studio photographer)

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ianz28
By ianz28 (Mar 2, 2012)

"I believe that a new 36MP camera doesn't stand a chance against a new 22MP camera".

Would love to hear the explanations behind this statement.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

"A new 36MP camera doesn't stand a chance against a new 22MP camera."

Canon's standard philosophy these days, it seems. Give less, but definitely charge more for it. Brilliant! Good thing, though, that Nikon, Sony, etc. did not think of that.

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Andrei Todea
By Andrei Todea (Mar 2, 2012)

The explanation was there ("unless you are shooting...")
If that is not enough then just look at the low-light ISO samples.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Mar 3, 2012)

Your mistake here Andrei is that you're even looking at the megapixels at all. The choice is between two different systems essentially capable of the same. Many many more important factors are at work here.

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Sergi Gabriel
By Sergi Gabriel (Mar 2, 2012)

Microphone - mono?
I use external stereo mic, but same time internal. Will be good internal stereo mic on the body.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

$250 point & shoots have STEREO mics. I guess with Canon, the more you pay, the less you shall receive.

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matt canon
By matt canon (Mar 2, 2012)

can we please get a 5d without video? i bet it would be cheaper and then all the video guys would stop complaining that this camera isnt a video camera.

i have the 7d now and have never once touched the video. wish that video button wasnt there.

havent the sony fans learned that the sonys only look good on paper. and when i say paper i mean online cuz real world sony is not even in the same playing field.

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l_d_allan
By l_d_allan (Mar 2, 2012)

My understanding is that once you have LiveView capability on a camera, video capability is mostly firmware. I believe the non-video 50d which has LiveView can actually record video with non-Canon firmware from MagicLantern (but I haven't actually tried it, so I could be mistaken).

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Petka
By Petka (Mar 2, 2012)

Yes, video is mostly just programing = cheap. Only the additional contacts for video (HDMI etc) cost something extra.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

Right. As for its video capabilities, the "new" 5D is hardly any better than the "old" 5D ever was. The old one could at least record stereo audio, not just mono like the "new" one does. The "new" one has only USB 2.0 connectivity -- even though USB 3.0 has been out for a good 1.5 years already.

This "new" Canon 5D looks pretty retro, frankly. Everything on it -- except for the mind-twisting $3,500 price, that is.

I am so glad I don't have any Canon glass to quickly liquidate on eBay, though.

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Mulder_
By Mulder_ (Mar 2, 2012)

I am reading a lot of forums about totally different topics, why is it that photographers are the worst people i come across in the internet. Canon/Nikon owners are worse fanboys than Apple owners... jeeeez, get a grip, let people have their opinions, discuss the camera and stop the hating, it is embarrassing!

back to topic, does anybody know if the 5D3 has a built in speedlite transmitter? The optical version to control the 430EX & 580EX flashes? Or did canon removed this to promote the new radio transmitter?

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matt canon
By matt canon (Mar 2, 2012)

need to have a flash to fire a slave so no. no camera without a flash will fire a slave. just the 7d and 60d. they didnt remove anything none of the 5d's have fired either the 430ex or the 580ex.

i have found really the only place where nikon and canon guys get along is that we all think sony sucks. i have used both canon and nikon and neither is better then the other. bet if you look at my site you cant see what was shot with the 1d, d70, d90, 20d, 30d, 40d or my current 7d. no difference in prints up to 20x30in.

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Mulder_
By Mulder_ (Mar 2, 2012)

bummer, I really like how my 60D controls the flash, it is very convenient just take it off and place it somewhere. I know, the 60D uses the popout flash to control the external flash, but the speedlite (not the new one) transmitter must use something else, probably IR? I always assumed the 5d had that built in... guess i was wrong.

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Lan
By Lan (Mar 2, 2012)

None of the 5D series (to date) have been able to trigger external flashes directly. The reason being that the 5D cameras don't have a built-in flash.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Mar 2, 2012)

@matt canon
Yes, Sony sucks, but I must admit, it makes very fast progress. The only thing Canon makes is rearrangement 10years old camera features into "pro", "semi pro", "entusiast" and "beginner".
And even when they do make a new feature they put it in the super-pro camera, like you have to pay $6000 for this small feature.
They still can not make a proper Auto ISO! What the ****???!!!
It's March 2012 now!

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

If Sony sucks, then this new Canon sucks 2x as much. And much, much more expensively, too.

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alberliber
By alberliber (Mar 2, 2012)

sorry I couldn't edit the mistakes in my precedent post: here it is:

I used to shoot with Canon 7d, a wonderful body, around a not-so-bad sensor... now Canon has gone out with 5d Mk III a Great Sensor, inside a Great Body...seems right for me, my 5D mk I and my 60 D (better sensor than the 7d for me with a fantastic screen), are waiting for the price to drop. It's really interesting how people complain! 6.0 frame rate bad?, the difference in 3 seconds against 6,9 is that you will miss less than 3 shots...in 21 (13,04% different). The point for me is: will those 18 shoots, be fine and sharp? If so I won't miss the extra 2,7 left! If I needed more frame rate I'd go 1dX (up to 14 f/s and 12 with AF, with a difference against Nikon D4 of 12 shoots after 3 seconds (that's 28,57% different!).
Please continue posting, (I am really amused) and ask yourselves: what's the difference in resolution between 36 Mp and 22 Mp? How bigger can be the prints (not considering interpolation)?

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Mar 2, 2012)

What do you mean "great sensor". There are absolutely no evidences of the sensor improvements. Even canon's commercial says nothing about it.

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nicolaiecostel
By nicolaiecostel (Mar 2, 2012)

What great sensor dude ? THe samples are full of noise in the shaddows and noise reduction even at base ISO. The high ISO shots have reddish patches everywhere and dont even get me started on the color reproduction. Did you look at the sample with the model in red coat at ISO100 ? Where is the detail man ? My old D70 took better pictures at ISO100. Come on, I really really hope that the final product takes pictures nothing like some of the samples provided, otherwise the D800 will monster the 5D3.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

"It's really interesting how people complain! 6.0 frame rate bad."

My guess would be, that is because it is bad?

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alberliber
By alberliber (Mar 2, 2012)

How bold: "my old D70 look better pictures at ISO 100'.... Are you Ferdinando Scianna?
Some statememts really are beyond common sense. Have you seen the pictures around the web? Still I haven't seen raw files, but jpeg are much better than what I shoot today!

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alberliber
By alberliber (Mar 2, 2012)

Jump to D800?
Look at this: http://www.steves-digicams.com/news/whoops_nikon_uses_canon_dslr_footage_to_launch_d800.html as posted by sdyue.

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dkingentertainment
By dkingentertainment (Mar 2, 2012)

Damn that's crazy! I guess that says I'm staying with my Mark II for now.LOL

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Lea5
By Lea5 (Mar 2, 2012)

Wow, that's a scandal!

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Mar 2, 2012)

Don't tell me that you're only now finding out that commercials are not realistic. Wait you're saying the Axe deodorant doesn't really attract all woman, ...so that was all me ? Awesome.

Seriously now, anyone who is really serious about buying the camera should have more sense to look up a actual sample video. Plus there is that promo video that did clearly state to be 'shot with the D800'. Now stop trying to look for dirt, make a choice and enjoy yourself.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Mar 2, 2012)

I assume that Nikon has ordered this commertial to some external company. The fact that this company has stolen the video from some youtube users is not Nikon's fault.

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mitchell1829
By mitchell1829 (Mar 2, 2012)

While I wouldn't call it a scandal... I do think it's interesting.

@M Jesper:
When viewing any advertisement, most consumers know that that they are viewing the best possible configuration (In this case: professionally shot, heavily enhanced, best lighting, etc.). But, when you aren't even using the product (and in fact, you are using the competitions product), that's fundamentally misleading.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

I sort of doubt it most seriously that Nikon would "steal" something this bad from a Facebook user.

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dkingentertainment
By dkingentertainment (Mar 2, 2012)

I have the 5d mark II and I use it mainly for videography. I'm really disappointed in the lack of upgrades from a video aspect. Especially with magic lantern adding features to the 5dmark II. I just can't seem to justify the upgrade. I honestly wanted the 5d mark III with all this hype of the launch date and surprises but I just don't see enough from a video aspect. I'm staying 5d mark II and If I see enough good reviews I will jump to the D800. My loyalty is going with the best product for it's worth. What do you video guys think?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

"New" 5D is old news for video. Go with the D800 instead. You can record internally just as good as with the pricier 5D.... plus you can record externally at much higher compression bitrates and even wholly uncompressed with the Nikon.

No so with the Canon.

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alberliber
By alberliber (Mar 2, 2012)

21,7% less resolution in widht
21,8% less resolution in heigh
Much better pixel per count quality?
Much better noise performance?

Better Frame rate and more ergonomic

Certainly it will not empty disk space after a week-end shoot, nor will require hours in elaborating raw files!

Reading all the sheets, for me Canon wins (and I am happy 'cause for me changing all my expensive L lenses would have been vvvvveeeeeeery expensive!)

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

I just love it who folks who are heavily invested in Canon lenses ALWAYS find a reason to go with any new Canon camera body. Even when there isn't really one.

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alberliber
By alberliber (Mar 2, 2012)

I used to shoot with Canon 7d, a wonderful body, around a not-so-bad sensor... now Canon has gone out with 5d Mk III a Great Sensor, inside a Great Body...seems right for me, my 5D mk I and my 60 D (better sensor than the 7d for me with a fantastic screen), are waiting for the price to drop. It's really interesting how people complain! 6.0 frame rate bad?, the difference in 3 seconds against 6,9 is that you will miss less than 3 shots...in 21 (13,04% different). The point for me is: will those 18 soots, be fine and sharp? If so I won't miss the extra 2,7 left! If i that's 28,57needed more frame rate I'd go 1dX (up to 14 f/s and 12 with AF, with a difference against D4 of 12 shoots after 3 seconds (that's 28,57% different!).
Please continue posting, (I am really amused) and ask yourselves: what's the difference in resolution between 36 Mp and 22 Mp? How bigger can be the prints (not considering interpolation)?

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