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Canon announces EOS 5D Mark III 22MP full-frame DSLR

By dpreview staff on Mar 2, 2012 at 05:00 GMT
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Canon has announced the Canon EOS 5D Mark III, the latest in its enthusiast full-frame 5D series and successor to the popular EOS 5D Mark II. Based around a 22MP full-frame sensor, it can shoot 6 frames per second and features a 61-point AF system much like the EOS-1D X. It can capture 1080p movies at 24, 25 or 30 fps and offers high quality intraframe (All-I) video compression amongst a host of movie-related improvements. It will be available from the end of March with an MSRP of $3499 / €3299 / £2999.99.

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Press Release:

Creativity, redefined – Canon unleashes the EOS 5D Mark III

London, UK, 2nd March 2012 – Canon today announces the latest addition to its worldfamous EOS range with the launch of the new EOS 5D Mark III. The EOS 5D Mark IIIbuilds on the performance of the legendary EOS 5D Mark II, offering improved speed,greater resolution, enhanced processing power and extended creative options for bothstills and Full HD movies – providing unparalleled artistic freedom for the most demanding photographers.

Incorporating feedback from photographers worldwide, the EOS 5D Mark III offers improved performance in virtually every area. A new 22.3 Megapixel (MP) full-frame sensor offers the ideal balance of resolution for stills and HD movies and up to 6 frames per second (fps) shooting, whilst a 61-point AF system and 63-zone metering provide greater speed, flexibility and accuracy. Powered by the latest DIGIC 5+ processing technology, the EOS 5D Mark III also features enhanced video functions, offeringimproved image quality alongside greater audio control – redefining creative possibilities for photographers and amateur videographers alike.

"The EOS 5D Mark III represents a big step forward for the EOS 5D series" said Kieran Magee, Marketing Director, Professional Imaging, Canon Europe. "The EOS 5D Mark II is an exceptional camera and we've listened carefully to feedback from its passionate community of users to improve performance in every area. This camera has been designed to meet virtually any creative challenge – it's faster, more responsive and features the tools to adapt to everything from studio photography to creative videography, while producing results of the highest quality."

Enhanced performance

With its comprehensively upgraded specification, the EOS 5D Mark III is the ideal toolfor the growing number of photographers shooting both stills and movies. It incorporates a number of the features launched with Canon's revolutionary EOS-1D X,providing vastly improved performance, flexibility, handling and durability.

The camera's newly-developed 22.3MP full-frame sensor provides increased resolution and finer detail, enabling the capture of a wide range of scenes, from sweeping landscapes to beautiful portraits. Higher speed continuous shooting also offers expanded creative possibilities. With an increased 8-channel read out, the camera comfortably handles a maximum full resolution speed of up to 6fps in bursts of 18 RAW images or over 16,000 JPEGs1, without the need for additional accessories. Additionally, the sensor's advanced architecture offers a huge native ISO range of 100-25,600, expandable to 102,400, making it possible to capture clean, high quality pictures, even in extreme low-light conditions.

The EOS 5D Mark III utilises the same 61-point wide-area AF system as the flagship EOS-1D X, providing exceptional sensitivity, precision and speed. One of the most advanced AF systems currently available, it features an impressive 41 cross-type points and five dual cross-type points, providing unsurpassed accuracy across the frame. The customisable AF pre-sets introduced in the EOS-1D X are also available, helping the capture of traditionally challenging subjects, and providing additional reliability in ituations where subject movement can be unpredictable.

Highly accurate exposures are provided by Canon's acclaimed iFCL metering system, which incorporates a 63-zone Dual-Layer sensor linked to each point of the AF system. Focus information gathered from the AF system is analysed alongside colour and luminance signals measured by the metering sensor itself, enabling the EOS 5D Mark III to deliver consistently accurate skin tones and excellent results in a wide range of shooting situations.

Creative performance without compromise

The EOS 5D Mark III features Canon's latest DIGIC 5+ image processor, which powers a range of new functions without affecting the camera's performance. 14-bit A/D conversion provides smoother tonal gradation and transitions between colours, while in-camera HDR shooting combines three different exposures and allows one of five preset tone maps to be applied, enabling photographers to capture all the detail in high contrast scenes. With in-camera RAW processing and editing capability, photographers also have the option to immediately begin post-processing their images while still on a shoot.

The increased power of DIGIC 5+ also enables a range of tools which contribute to higher image quality. Lens peripheral illumination correction, Lens chromatic aberration correction (lateral and axial) and high ISO noise reduction are all performed in-camera without affecting performance, allowing photographers to continue shooting without any camera lag. Additionally, in-camera image rating via a dedicated button makes it easy for photographers to organise images ahead of post-production.

The EOS 5D Mark III features a new Creative Photo button, which enables users to quickly select Picture Styles and capture multiple exposures, as well as offering direct access to the HDR shooting mode. In playback, pressing the Creative Photo button displays a new comparative playback function, displaying two images side-by-side to allow photographers to view, magnify and compare the quality of different exposures mid-shoot.

For situations where photographers want to avoid being noticed, such as weddings, the EOS 5D Mark III also features a new silent shooting mode that dramatically reduces the sound of the shutter and mirror, ensuring they can work quietly in the background. A continuous silent mode is also available, enabling photographers to capture fastermoving subjects without attracting attention.

Next generation EOS Movies

The EOS 5D Mark III builds on the reputation of the EOS 5D Mark II, with a range of new features introduced following feedback received from photographers to provide even better Full HD video performance. As well as offering the depth-of-field control loved by video professionals, the new full-frame sensor combines with the vast processing power of DIGIC 5+ to improve image quality by virtually eradicating the presence of moiré, false colour and other artefacts. The addition of a movie mode switch and a recording button also offers greater usability, enabling videographers to begin shooting immediately when movie mode is engaged.

Additional movie functions include manual exposure control and an enhanced range of high bit-rate video compression options, with intraframe (ALL-I) and interframe (IPB) methods both supported. Variable frame rates range from 24fps to 60fps, and the addition of SMPTE timecode support provides greater editing flexibility and easier integration into multi-camera shoots. Users can also check and adjust audio during recording via the camera's Quick Control screen and a headphone socket enables sound level monitoring both during and after shooting. Enhanced processing power provided by DIGIC 5+ also makes it possible to conveniently trim the length of recorded movies in-camera.

Professional build, easy operation

The EOS 5D Mark III has been built to offer photographers easy-handling and robust build quality. Its lightweight, high-grade magnesium body offers advanced weather proofing for protection against the elements, while the construction of the shutter has also been reinforced, with 150,000-cycle durability making it ideal for repeated, everyday use. An enhanced version of the Intelligent Viewfinder featured in the EOS 7D offers approximately 100% coverage, as well as an on-demand grid display via the builtin transparent LCD.

The same reinforced 8.11cm (3.2") Clear View II LCD screen as used by the EOS-1D X provides high quality framing and playback in all conditions. 1,040k-pixels provide the resolution to accurately check image sharpness and focus, while the gapless structure design introduced with the EOS-1D Mark IV prevents reflections and protects against dust or scratches. A headphone socket and locking mode dial have been included, while the inclusion of a UDMA 7-compatible CF card slot plus an SD card2 slot enables shooting to both cards simultaneously, auto switching when the one in use becomes full and the option to copy images from one card to the other in-camera.

Digital Lens Optimizer – new in Digital Photo Professional v3.11

The EOS 5D Mark III comes complete with the most advanced version of Digital Photo Professional (DPP) yet – Canon's free, in-box software enabling high-speed, high quality processing of RAW images. New in DPP v3.11 is Digital Lens Optimizer – a revolutionary new tool designed to drastically improve image resolution.

Digital Lens Optimizer (DLO) precisely imitates lens performance, with a series of complex mathematical functions replicating each stage of the journey of light through the optical path. Using this information DLO can correct a range of typical optical aberrations and loss of resolution caused by a camera's low pass filter, by applying an inverse function to each shot to take the image nearer to how the scene appears to the naked eye. This creates exceptionally detailed, high-quality images with highly manageable file sizes, providing photographers with maximum image quality and greater flexibility.

EOS System compatibility

As part of the EOS System, the EOS 5D Mark III is immediately compatible with over 60 EF Lenses, including the EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM – the new, essential wide-angle zoom lens from Canon's famous L-series. The camera is also compatible with a newlyannounced range of accessories designed to offer extended creativity, including the Speedlite 600EX-RT – a high performance TTL flash with wireless radio connectivity. Additionally, the new Battery Grip BG-E11 offers greater handling flexibility alongside the ability to double the camera's battery life.

Canon EOS 5D Mark III – Key features:

  • 22.3 Megapixel full-frame sensor
  • 61-point autofocus
  • Up to 6fps continuous shooting
  • Native ISO 100-25,600 sensitivity
  • Full HD video with manual control
  • 14-bit DIGIC 5+ processor
  • Enhanced Weather sealing
  • 8.11cm (3.2-inch) 1,040,000-dot screen
  • HDR mode with presets

Canon EOS 5D Mark III specifications

Price
MSRPBody only: $3499, €3299, £2999 with 24-105mm: $4299
Body type
Body typeMid-size SLR
Body materialMagnesium alloy
Sensor
Max resolution5760 x 3840
Other resolutions3840 x 2560, 2880 x 1920, 1920 x 1280, 720 x 480
Image ratio w:h3:2
Effective pixels22 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors23 megapixels
Sensor sizeFull frame (36 x 24 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
ProcessorDigic 5+
Color spacesRGB,Adobe RGB
Color filter arrayRGB Color Filter Array
Image
ISOAuto, 100 - 25600 in 1/3 stops, plus 50, 51200, 102400 as option
White balance presets6
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationNo
Uncompressed formatRAW
JPEG quality levelsFine, Normal
File format
  • JPEG (Exif 2.3 [Exif Print] compliant)
  • Design rule for Camera File system (2.0)
  • RAW: RAW, sRAW1, sRAW2 (14bit, Canon original RAW 2nd edition)
  • Digital Print Order Format [DPOF] Version 1.1 compliant
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Phase Detect
  • Multi-area
  • Selective single-point
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
  • Live View
Autofocus assist lampby optional dedicated Speedlite
Digital zoomNo
Manual focusYes
Number of focus points61
Lens mountCanon EF
Focal length multiplier1×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3.2
Screen dots1,040,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeClear View II TFT LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeOptical (pentaprism)
Viewfinder coverage100%
Viewfinder magnification0.71×
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/8000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Auto+
  • Program AE
  • Shutter priority AE
  • Aperture priority AE
  • Manual (Stills and Movie)
  • Custom (x3)
Built-in flashNo
External flashYes (Hot-shoe, Wireless plus Sync connector)
Flash X sync speed1/200 sec
Continuous drive6 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
  • Partial
Exposure compensation±5 (at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
AE Bracketing±3 (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps)
WB BracketingYes (3 frames in either blue/amber or magenta/green axis)
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (29.97, 25, 23.976 fps fps), 1280 x 720 (59.94, 50 fps), 640 x 480 (25, 30 fps)
FormatH.264
Videography notes1080 and 720 intra or inter frame, 480 inter frame
MicrophoneMono
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesCompact Flash Type I (UDMA compatible), SD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage includedNone
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (HDMI mini)
WirelessOptional
Wireless notesWireless File Transmitter WFT-E7
Remote controlYes (Remote control with N3 type contact, Wireless Controller LC-5, Remote Controller RC-6)
Physical
Environmentally sealedYes
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion LP-E6 rechargeable battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA)950
Weight (inc. batteries)950 g (2.09 lb / 33.51 oz)
Dimensions152 x 116 x 76 mm (5.98 x 4.57 x 2.99)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingYes (by cable and PC)
GPSOptional
GPS notesWith optional GP-E2 unit

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Comments

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IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Mar 2, 2012)

The Sony A99 is going to utterly destroy this camera and the D800

2 upvotes
DioCanon
By DioCanon (Mar 2, 2012)

what's the market share of Sony again and what is the market share of Canon & Nikon?
please DPR shut up those people with no clues!

5 upvotes
seilerbird666
By seilerbird666 (Mar 2, 2012)

Canon and Nikons market share has been falling and Sonys has been going up. Hurts doesn't it?

0 upvotes
justmeMN
By justmeMN (Mar 2, 2012)

"In the market for cameras with interchangeable lens, or single lens reflex cameras, Canon controlled 44.5 percent of the market, followed by Nikon with 29.8 percent and Sony with 11.9 percent, according to the data." - Bloomberg, Apr 15, 2011

0 upvotes
tkbslc
By tkbslc (Mar 2, 2012)

If we are discussing mythical battles, I bet the Flash totally wins the next Boston Marathon.

0 upvotes
DioCanon
By DioCanon (Mar 3, 2012)

let the numbers do the talking.

1 upvote
bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (Mar 2, 2012)

Looks like a good upgrade, the AF system should have been better in the mark II, it let the camera down badly.

Far too expensive at that price though.

0 upvotes
Kim Seng
By Kim Seng (Mar 2, 2012)

Yes lol too expansive... This is because you guys always demanded for more functions and features. Well all in all, this always come with a price. Now you have it and you keep touching your pant's pocket.

0 upvotes
qwertyasdf
By qwertyasdf (Mar 2, 2012)

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/

The "coming soon" pics are killing me!
I see some very attractive ladies!!!!!!!

1 upvote
drawer77
By drawer77 (Mar 2, 2012)

This release is a disaster.
There is no swivel screen, no raw video format, no video autofocus feature, no uncompressed video output, they have only added 1.2 Mpixels in resolution since 2009.
This camera has been hastily released for the Olympic games crowd, it looks like an empty body with a new chip.

7 upvotes
Jacques_t
By Jacques_t (Mar 2, 2012)

It's a Semi-Pro / Pro dSLR, not a camcorder.

10 upvotes
Juraj Lacko
By Juraj Lacko (Mar 2, 2012)

disagree completely.
If resolution matters to you buy a d800e
5d3 is the best upgrade so far build from canon. Resolution at 22mpx is superb, but main improovents are faster fps, surely better high iso, weather sealing improoved video.
Read article again before you post such nonsense

7 upvotes
lensberg
By lensberg (Mar 2, 2012)

Based upon the sample images provided at Canon's website, it would be safe to say that the ISO 6400 image looks so much better (and sharpper) than anything the old 5D Mark II could produce at ISO 1600 ... So that by itself indicates that this new camera will definitely have an over 2 stop advantage over its predecessor...

2 upvotes
tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

This is a superb camera, intended for serious photographers that know what really matters in photographic equipment, not for trolls.

0 upvotes
matt canon
By matt canon (Mar 2, 2012)

thats just proof how good nikon is they use the best, just happens to be the canon lol

0 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

Nikon using 5DMkII video to promote it's D800... sad... lame... desperate... FAIL...

http://www.steves-digicams.com/news/whoops_nikon_uses_canon_dslr_footage_to_launch_d800.html

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4 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Mar 2, 2012)

The biggest non-story ever: A photographer claims that Nikon used one or two of his shots for it's Nikon TV commercial. News flash: Nikon uses video camera when filming their D800 TV spot. Feeble attempt at generating controversy where none exists.

7 upvotes
BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Mar 2, 2012)

Oooohhhh!!! seems like it hit a spot with you. Nikon aren't the first and won't be the last using Canon product to cpature images and Video. Sony and Panasonic have both used 5DMKII Images and Footage in their advertising campaigns :o)

0 upvotes
ajendus
By ajendus (Mar 2, 2012)

So what? I own a film/TV production company and had we been hired to shoot that video we wouldn't have shot anything on DSLs. Red herring argument. Although, we do use Nikons for stills.

I'm sure GM has a Ford somewhere in its company. Apple probably has a PC or two somewhere in Cupertino. I'm sure a Coke exec. has a taste for Pepsi. Etc.

1 upvote
matt canon
By matt canon (Mar 2, 2012)

so glad it doesnt have 30plus mp ill take better iq any day. cuz this camera is made to take pics. big huge effen pics!

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0 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (Mar 2, 2012)

we don't know yet if 22.3MP can beat 36.3MP in SNR or not.

0 upvotes
NigelMoore
By NigelMoore (Mar 2, 2012)

Personally, I would have preferred two CF slots, as has finally been introduced to the 1D range, instead of CF/SD. I don't see the point of that. And I'm amused to see the Direct Print button hasn't been retired (although at least it's multi-function).

If I cannot afford/justify the 1D-X I will at least be ditching my 40D and going FF this year. :)

1 upvote
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

agree, i didn't expect SD to show up
(unless they can show no drawbacks of SD)

0 upvotes
alberliber
By alberliber (Mar 2, 2012)

the sd slot is for IPAD users ;-)

0 upvotes
Mulder_
By Mulder_ (Mar 2, 2012)

i'd expect they finally retire the bulky CF slot

1 upvote
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

2 x CF preferable
unless there are any SD advantages

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0 upvotes
tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

sdyue, why is CF preferable to SD (SDXC in particular)?
CF+SD is nice because of the flexibility/interchangability it offers. It's easy to borrow some SD card (from practically any device) in case of emergency. And transferring images to a laptop is easier too, because most new laptops/tablets are equiped with an SD reader, but never CF.

1 upvote
yabokkie
By yabokkie (Mar 2, 2012)

either two CF or four SD slots should be better.

0 upvotes
photo nuts
By photo nuts (Mar 2, 2012)

Too heavy and too expensive. Sony: I am waiting for your mirrorless FF.

11 upvotes
Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Mar 2, 2012)

do you know why Canikon use metal frame for their cams instead of plastic?

0 upvotes
zxaar
By zxaar (Mar 2, 2012)

@Mitsuoka, so that they can breakdown when they are exposed to slight rain and humidity.

6 upvotes
photo nuts
By photo nuts (Mar 2, 2012)

@Mtsuoka: a number of these DSLRs are 'unnecessarily' expensive and heavy because of the big chunky pentaprism.

0 upvotes
magoo_on_safari
By magoo_on_safari (Mar 2, 2012)

I love tech heads, oh er Nikon released a 36mpx camera that's better... I'm a working professional with a mk2, each file is 23mg i average a low 3000 images per month, back up twice... now with the mk3 the files are bigger (they gave me another 2 stops of the 4 stops i wanted in dynamic range), and didn't increase the mpx count... great! ONLY TWO of my lenses are sharp at 100% at 22mpx.. the 85mmf1.8 and the 200mmf2.8 the other 5 are soft. That means i'm storing data that is not needed.... really not interested in the tech sheet as much as i'm interested in how it helps me. the extra dynamic range BIG PLUS, new auto focus - thank gawd! Second card slot great!

now can canon give adobe all the lens corrections that are in their pro software so that it can be included in my work flow cause frankly it's really annoying Canon!

13 upvotes
Hakan zsara
By Hakan zsara (Mar 2, 2012)

I strongly agree with you !!..

0 upvotes
joemo2007
By joemo2007 (Mar 2, 2012)

Well said fella. I have been living in an slightly soft canon bubble for the last 3 years!

All of my prime lenses won't autofocus, I have to mess about in live view before each click, then it's tack sharp, even if my model is yawning.
I hope £3000 spent on 5Dlll will solve this AF problem, and I can feel like a professional

Would be nice to be assured by canon before committing. I believe this is was universal problem that canon wouldn't comment on.

1 upvote
METROMODEPHOTO
By METROMODEPHOTO (Mar 2, 2012)

IN MY CONCLUSION, IS IT WORH UPGRADING FROM A 7D OR A 5D-2 TO A 5D-3? CONSIDERING THE MEANING OF "UPGRADE", THE D800 WOULD TRULY FIT THAT DESCRIPTION. I WILL NOT MAKE A SWITCHOVER AT THIS TIME BUT, WHO KNOWS THE FUTURE". FOR ME ITS ABOUT ENDING THE NEVER ENDING RAT-RACE FOR THE LATEST AND THE NEWEST SOME DAY. I GUES WE ALL DO IT ONCE OR TWICE IN A LIFETIME. AND YES BOTH CAMERAS ARE VERY VERY GOOD IN THEIR WAYS FOR SURE. HOWEVER, NIKON IS GIVING YOU YOUR MONEYS WORTH IN THIS CATEGORY. CANON IS MY CHOICE FOR NOW, BUT THEY NEED TO SMELL THE COFFEE FAST.

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0 upvotes
bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (Mar 2, 2012)

Why are you SHOUTING? Too LAZY to use the shift key
?

5 upvotes
Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Mar 2, 2012)

seems that your definition of "upgrade" is referring to MP..
you know what your want to get then... Nokia ..

1 upvote
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

upgrade? for a model that LACKS D3/D4 ExpSim LV power (from Canon's 1D3/1Ds3/5D2 series)?

no thx, that is a step down, backwards to a coolpix level LV which is a non-exposure simulation live preview (no ES-LV)

not a chance... 5D2/5D3 has ExpSim LV... and Nikon didn't on D700/D800

even PowerShots have ES-LV

so if either:
a Prosumer PowerShot 1080p ES-LV shooter
or
an EOS 1080p ExpSim LV dSLR shooter

opts for a FF ExpSim LV Nikon dSLR... all they have available is the pro-priced D4... that's it. (and 1080p video is just bonus, but nothing new to Canon)

1 upvote
tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

@sdyue: pretty cryptic comment here? Would you care to explain why ExpSim LV is so important? Why it is a must-have, that apparently appeals to the Powershots crowd?

1 upvote
chris_j_l
By chris_j_l (Mar 2, 2012)

@tfeltz: Exp Sim Live View is exceptionally useful if you are a photographer that is excremental at taking photos. You only need to look at a certain persons gallery to see the only well composed photos are re-edits of photos taken by other people. The ones taken by the person themselves are poor snaps with dodgy WB and hackneyed posing.

2 upvotes
topstuff
By topstuff (Mar 2, 2012)

Disappointing.

With the high prices of some of the new lenses launched recently, and now the high price of the 5D, Canon are getting very expensive.

The old 5D2 was a nice sensor in a cheap body. Most pros had 5D2 for that reason - a great sensor and if the body broke they just got another one. The new 5D3 seems to be a nice sensor in an expensive body.

At least now, there is a clear difference in the offerings between Nikon and Canon so people will know what suits them best, more easily.

And please, will the pathetic fanboys, haters, paid shills and other losers just get the hell out of here. You know who you are. Just shut the hell up.

Thank you so much.. :)

7 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Mar 2, 2012)

Plus a way heavier body : 950 instead of 850gr, that s a lot for function I don't need, like weather sealing, fast shooting etc.. At least they didn't increase the number of pixels.

0 upvotes
NigelMoore
By NigelMoore (Mar 2, 2012)

You felt the need to post that invective? You must be very angwy.

2 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

"angwy"? who's 'angwy'?

at the moment... the Nikon 'fake extra new profile' for troll nearly match the real Nikon profile detractors, and hard to separate the two... so, the anger is more than justified...

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

actually fully loaded:
5D2: goes from 810g to 905g (+95g)
5D3: goes from 860g to 950g (+90g)
change: +50g empty to +45g full
or +6% to +5%

and
1DX: goes from 1340g to 1530g (+190g)

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20120302_516132.html

not sure:
1Ds: starts at 1205g empty, is it 1395g w/ batt/mem cards?
1D4: starts at 1180g empty, is it 1370g w/ batt/mem cards?

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rowlandw
By rowlandw (Mar 2, 2012)

Price of 5D-2 will rise.

0 upvotes
lensberg
By lensberg (Mar 2, 2012)

This 5D Mark III will blow the Nikon D800 away as far as high ISO goes... if i were to speculate, it would probably be by a 2 stop + margin... Dynamic range also greatly favours this new 22 MP sensor... Why is everybody complaining... if the tables were turned and Nikon was introducing this 22MP sensor in the D800 ... all these Nikon fanboys would have been drooling over the thing... making flamboyant predictions that it would destroy the competition... canon's days were numbered, etc. etc.. etc... Kudos to Canon for making IQ of prime importance... instead of hiking the MP count to ridiculous proportions... Just a couple of years ago everyone was saying 12 MP is more than enough for most peoples requirements... all of a sudden short of 30 + MP nothing will suffice to justify the $3500 price tag... The pixel quality of the 5D III will be fantastic... can't say the same for the Nikon based upon the sample images... and the video will probably be the best we've ever seen from a DSLR...

5 upvotes
wmac
By wmac (Mar 2, 2012)

It still cannot beat D700 in ISO performance.

8 upvotes
lensberg
By lensberg (Mar 2, 2012)

Firstly this camera has just been announced... there has been no official comparisons... so where you got that information from i'll never know... But chances are that the 5D Mark III will beat the Nikon D700 in high ISO performance... in all probability by at leat by 1 full stop... New sensor architecture... new gapless micro lens design... the odds favour the Canon... Forget about the Nikon D700... its old news... it could never even outsell the 5D Mark II... Keep in mind that the Canon 1D Mark IV was better than the D3 & D700 at high ISO (especially ISO 6400 & 12800) ... that too with a 1.3 crop factor 16 MP sensor which was about 45% smaller than the Nikons.

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Stu 5
By Stu 5 (Mar 2, 2012)

Lensberg:

"Forget about the Nikon D700... its old news... it could never even outsell the 5D Mark II."

Not until you got to real world use. having used both cameras in low light, the D700 nails focus accurately straight away. 5D MKII thinks about it, changes its mind, thinks about it again and plays that game for quite a while. As for high ISO the D700 is much better than the 5D MKII.

Now at the moment no one including yourself as a clue how the cameras will compare. The one thing that is known in the two areas mentioned above Canon has a lot of catching up to do. They might do it and they might not. Some clients will demand the D800 is used because of it's larger files. These probably will include film production companies for their publicity shots on set as they know the files will print better for large marketing posters because of the file sizes. . What we do know now though is the Canon is £500 too expensive.

8 upvotes
Stu 5
By Stu 5 (Mar 2, 2012)

Part 2:

Also what teething problems will Canon have this time with the camera. Something they have gained a track record for with recent high end cameras. Maybe it will be perfect straightaway or maybe not. If IQ was prime importance for Canon they would be bringing out more new replacement lenses but that cost lots of development money.

1 upvote
Hakan zsara
By Hakan zsara (Mar 2, 2012)

Absolutely !!..

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marike6
By marike6 (Mar 2, 2012)

It's been a long time, many years that any Canon DSLR beat a Nikon in high ISO performance, and now you have the 5D Mk III already 2 stops better than a D800? The 5D Mk III sample images show heavy NR smearing ISO 6400 (Iceberg image) on Canon Japan's website so I wouldn't be so confident.

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Mar 2, 2012)

As far as I can tell the ISO 6400 D800 images have more detail and less smearing from NR than the 5DIII shots on Canon Japan. You don't even need to be zoomed in to %100 to see the NR smearing on the 5DIII My guess is the D800 will stomp the 5DIII on noise, especially at similar print sizes.

0 upvotes
Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

wmac: That is left to be seen. I think a new image sensor should easily beat a 4.5 year old one. Even at full resolution from the 5D mark III. But downsize it to 12 megapixels and there's no doubt it'll be cleaner, with better image quality, dynamic range, and colors than the old d700.

0 upvotes
seta666
By seta666 (Mar 2, 2012)

Maybe in your dreams; ISO on the 5D mkII may be a 2/3 EV improvement over 5DmkII from what I see in those samples with heavy NR on. Most nikon sensors from the last few years are impressive and make canon sensor look old technology.
I own a 5D mkII and I do not care about video, just in case you think I am a nikon fan boy ;-)

1 upvote
METROMODEPHOTO
By METROMODEPHOTO (Mar 2, 2012)

OH, YEAH" I WOULD LIKE TO UPGRADE FROM MY AWSOME 7D APS SENSOR TO A FULL SIZE SENSOR SOME DAY AND END THE GET THE LATEST AND THE NEWEST "RAT-RACE" SOME DAY BUT, I AM WELL DISAPPOINTED WITH THE RIDICULOUS "ONE" MORE MP 21MP 5D-2 TO A 22MP 5D-3 UPGRADE. YES,IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE SINCE NIKON OFFERED 36MP WITH THE NICE OPTION OF GOING DOWN TO 22MP FOR EXTRA FINE DETAIL AND SOME DAY IF YOU LIKE TO BLOW UP LARGE PHOTOS AND GET THE EXTRA DETAILS WELL ITS ALL THERE AND READILY AVAILABLE. ITS JUST LIKE HAVING AN SLR THAT SHOOTS HD VIDEO.I DO NOT DO VIDEO YET BUT AS I SAID BEFORE, IT IS NICE TO HAVE THE OPTION TO. "YES, OPTIONS ARE GOOD.

0 upvotes
NigelMoore
By NigelMoore (Mar 2, 2012)

I haven't bothered to compare the IQ or specs of the two cameras, but if they're both FF (and therefore same sensor size), then the photosites on the 5DIII are larger than those on the Nikon. Yes?

This means more light gathering per 'pixel', and theoretically better IQ. I realise that there's more to it than that, and I'm not really that interested in the technical aspects of sensor function.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. By the same token, I'd like to see images taken with the two cameras under same, difficult conditions.

(BTW, is it possible for you not to 'shout'? Or are you just vewy angwy too?)

4 upvotes
Bomple
By Bomple (Mar 2, 2012)

The key on the left side of your keyboard, above the shift key, is called caps-lock. Please press it again to turn it off.

4 upvotes
Felipe Rodríguez
By Felipe Rodríguez (Mar 2, 2012)

I like most of the camera's specifications, and I'm sure it will be a killer piece of gear. But... if I would not own such a pile of expensive Canon glass, I would better go with the Nikon D800: nearly the same features but more megapixels (big files are important for me) for less money... I can't even consider a brand switch, but many people can...

0 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Mar 2, 2012)

Well, but you ave to pay extra money in order to get the NEF software; with Canon it comes free in the box.

1 upvote
Tap0
By Tap0 (Mar 2, 2012)

You pay extra only for Capture NX2, you do not need that to work with the NEF files, you can use either Lightroom or View NX (which is free) to download and convert the files.

2 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

with Nikon you have to pay big D4 money for its ExpSim LV (from Canon)... which the 5D2/5D3 always had (D3/D3x/D3s had it; after of course)

but... D700, nor D800 have it... no ExpSim LV for stills or 1080p video for FF Nikon enthusiasts... still

2 upvotes
Felipe Rodríguez
By Felipe Rodríguez (Mar 2, 2012)

Well, video is not my priority. Stock photography is. And then resolution counts...

1 upvote
Chris_in_Osaka
By Chris_in_Osaka (Mar 2, 2012)

The best thing about this camera release is that now I feel no pressure to upgrade my 5D Mark II.

3 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Mar 2, 2012)

I do still have the 5D mk1, but now I feel like I should rather update to a 5D mk2 : the 100gr heavier weight puts me off.

0 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

i don't like the weight of my 5D2... never mind the 5D3...

thus no lighter FF dSLR alternatives w/ Canon ExpSim LV from any mfr

time for a FF EOS 6D for lower wt/volume (but not 'dumbed down')
:\

2 upvotes
tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

If weight is so important get a "mirrorless" system camera. The extra weight presumably contributes to extra (built) quality, speed, durability. Making it lighter would make it even more expensive due to expensive materials (titanium?) and extra miniaturization. The extra weight is negligible, once you start using serious glass, like F2.8 zoom lenses (e.g. 70-200mm) or telephotos.

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METROMODEPHOTO
By METROMODEPHOTO (Mar 2, 2012)

"OH", DID I MENTIONED THAT THE NEW 24-70 2.8 USM L HAS A WHOPPING 82MM FILTER LENS TREAD ,"YES THAT RIGT" IF YOU WANT A UV OR A CLR POLARIZER , YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE BIG BUCS TO GO FROM 77MM TO 82MM FOR THE "SAME FOCAL RANGES ON YOUR 2.8 24-70 USM L PREVIOUS MODEL , NOT GOOD NEWS AT ALL!!!

1 upvote
Joed700
By Joed700 (Mar 2, 2012)

I think Canon is a month too late and a dollar to short. With the Nikon D800's having 36 mp at $3000 a piece, why would Canon expect customers to pay $3500 for a 22 mp body (hardly any differences compared to the 5D Mark II in terms of megapixels)? Someone is really screwed up at the marketing dept in Canon...

8 upvotes
BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Mar 2, 2012)

Again with the people who have no idea about sensor technology. This sensor is miles away from what the 5DMkII was. Stop counting numbers and look into it a little more... You only embarrass yourself with comments like this

16 upvotes
NigelMoore
By NigelMoore (Mar 2, 2012)

MP isn't everything though, IQ is more important for some of us.

13 upvotes
Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Mar 2, 2012)

yeah if you only look at MP, that's very reasonable observation

how about the Nokia phone with 40 MP? must be super deal for people like u

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5 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

5D3 release price is now priced near HALF 5D2 release price... slightly above by US$200

includes all global market changes since 2008, currencies, gold, etc...

nobody's going to make a product folks cannot afford now, nor back then, nor not make a reasonable profit.

one reason why i expected a US$3300 price instead of US$3500

2 upvotes
tfeltz
By tfeltz (Mar 2, 2012)

Street prices will drop. In a free market, people won't buy if they don't perceive it as good value for money. Canon and Nikon are true competitors on a level playing field, and the consumer benefits from this technology race.

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0 upvotes
walnist
By walnist (Mar 2, 2012)

Interesting to see that in 2012 still megapixel is all that matters, at least in internet forums full of "enthusiasts" who'll never buy one of such cameras.

At this round, Nikon thought about bumping up the megapixel race, while Canon tweaked their high ISO performance.

Nikon sensors are more "extreme", on one hand you have D700 / D3 with low megapixel count (12Mp) and ultra high ISO; on the other hand D800 has ultra high megapixel (36Mp) but ISO will suffer a lot more than the specs seem to suggest.
Because when the technology is already mature, it's the laws of photon physics which are the limiting factor.
Think about it, the D800 should have similar ISO and IQ as the Canon 7D, which has a sensor half the size (APS-C) with half the number of megapixel.

Canon with the 1Dx and 5DmkIII has chosen two different intermediate settings instead, at 18Mp and 22Mp.

The question will be, who chose the best tradeoff on the Pareto-front IQ Vs Resolution.

And only the tests will tell.

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0 upvotes
srimano
By srimano (Mar 3, 2012)

@BeanyPic, can you explain how 5DIII sensor is miles away from 5DII sensor? Neither me or you or anyone without a 5DIII in hand can answer this. From the specs, I can speculate it is just a few meters away.

Yes, I do wish my 1Ds3 had a few more megapixels. It makes a difference in large prints.

I am beginning to lose faith in Canon. 1Dx was a disappointment, and now 5DIII -- both from tech-specs point of view and pricing point of view.

1 upvote
Joed700
By Joed700 (Mar 3, 2012)

I see I have offended a lot of you Canon fanboys here. If MP doesn't matter, how the hack can Canon justify charging customers over a thousand dollar for the 5D MKiii for less that one MP gain? Also, you people are operating on the assumption that the Nikon D800s will not outperform your 5D MK III. If you are as objective as you think, you would wait til the field results before you shoot off your big mouths. BTW, Kenrockwell also stated that the D800's has blown Canon back into the 1950's. I'm not an expert in the field of camera sensors, but I don't think most of you here would know any better either. For your info, did you know that Canon bodies suck at AF, especially with lens using large apertures?

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mantra
By mantra (Mar 2, 2012)

same 1dx af , but why did not canon include the new exposure meter ?

3 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

good to have AF same as 1Dx (5D series usually inherit 1D features, but not always all)

Canon already has 'Real-time evaluative metering with image sensor' via ExpSim LV... lightning faster than any TTL metering system of any mfr

same as 5D2, but improved to 1Dx level, no need to pass on old 'improved' TTL metering tech if the benefits are low. (that only caters to the TTL-metering-only diminishing niche)

technically, one can remove TTL metering 'old tech' altogether, and one can do real time evaluative FULL DR IMAGE metering much more precisely for every pixel in a single preview glance of the entire image, even for full M and M-ISO shooting.

that's a full 22+Mp worth of pixels all evaluated in a single glance in full luminance and color EV details, compared to TTL spot/area metering of limited pixel area... a few hundred at a time with only a 'graphically translated numeric quantitative indication on an old analog scale? (no thx)

2 upvotes
Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

When? This is the first time the 5-series got anything from an existing 1-series expect maybe micro autofocus adjustments. The 5D mark II had the old Elan-style autofocus, the old 35 zone metering, and the Elan-style body which is still has. This time it got the 1-series card slots (and file storing capabilities), metering (1D4), autofocus, and viewfinder enhancements.

0 upvotes
Sosua
By Sosua (Mar 2, 2012)

Hmmmm seems to simply be what many thought the 5D2 should have been.

Interested to see if Canon has improved shadow noise and dynamic range.

Still, high performance champs = D4 and high MP = D800/E

3 upvotes
thepaladin
By thepaladin (Mar 2, 2012)

If Nikon decides to run the D700 along side the new D800, Nikon users have the choice between a fast and reliable low MP camera, and a high MP but slower cam. And they both cost less than the new 5D3.
Does it make sense (for Canon)?
Just saying!

6 upvotes
tkbslc
By tkbslc (Mar 2, 2012)

The 5D mark II was pretty much a perfect camera except for the few things Canon fixed here. So yeah, it's a minor update but there wasn't much to add.

3 upvotes
AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Mar 2, 2012)

Any chances they deliberately released the mark 2 with crippled features so they can release future model with minor update?

If that's the case, 5D mark 4 would have features like higher MP , support for usb 3.5.. maybe QXD card.

0 upvotes
Jon Rty
By Jon Rty (Mar 2, 2012)

Of course it was deliberate that the 5DII had such poor AF and metering compared to the higher end Canons.

3 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

5DMkII inherited its 'poor' AF from original 5D (unfortunately, not from the newer AF just put into the 1DsMkIII, to set it apart)

however, 5D2 offers ExpSim LV, which is peerless for metering, so if you are still resorting to film SLR TTL metering on your own dSLR, it is because you don't have a choice.

at least Nikon offers the 5DMkII/1DsMkIII ExpSim LV... so their pro shooters have it, but not their enthusiasts on either D700 or D800, both of which use only the older TTL light (spot/area/evaluative) metering analog scale, used in old film SLR days...

why rely on a slower system?
when a faster more accurate ExpSim LV is so much faster and accurate?

besides... 5D2 was first FF dSLR (any dSLR) to offer video (ExpSim LV of course) and 1st to offer it as 1080p (ExpSim LV too)

first time Nikon offers both FF ExpSim LV and FF 1080p (w/ExpSim LV) is in the D4 (only its late coming D3s offered 720p (ExpSim LV))... and no other Nikon dSLR, period.

1 upvote
Bogdan Spineanu
By Bogdan Spineanu (Mar 2, 2012)

It was a really bad day when I choose to go with Canon about 10 years ago.
It's been a long time since I had that wonderful feeling for any Canon camera, that I HAVE to HAVE this camera. No butterflies in the stomach. Not for this camera.
No USB 3.0 ?
The only thing I find interesting .. the touch sensitive dial.
If you weren't taking good pictures before .. this one is not going to help you much more.
Full HD video @ 29.97 ? What is that ? No 30 ? No thanks !
No word on uncompressed HDMI ouput .. guess they forgot about that.

Again .. this camera brings no warm tingly sensation for me.
My 40D won't get retired for another 2-3 years. Poor old 40D ;-(
Better not fail .. cause if it does .. there's no Canon out there that I can buy without hating myself.

3 upvotes
Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Mar 2, 2012)

I guess if you choose Nikon 10 years ago you will also regret because of the 12MP bodies ....

0 upvotes
Benjamin Franzmayr
By Benjamin Franzmayr (Mar 2, 2012)

Oh cry me a river. Jeez if you feel so bad about it just sell your camera and buy something you like, you're not stuck with it.

2 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Mar 2, 2012)

No fully articulated LCD, plenty of features I don't need, but 100 gr. more than the 5D, I'm really deceived. I want a full fame but in a lighter body !
I don't need the fast shooting abilities, I don't need the weather sealing, but I need a lighter body that I can wear with me all the day !!

When will Canon stop offering those monster bodies ? When will they understand the needs of the hicking and travelling photographers ?

What a deception !! I'm now seriously considering selling all my Canon gear. Really I don't understand why Canon always has to make heavier and heavier gear : come on Canon, the population is getting older and photographers are getting even older; with our used backs and our used necks, we need lighter cameras, not heavier ones, we need mobility, not rock heavy cameras. We need a full frame with great IQ, but with the weight of a D60 or of a D600. I can't believed they have renounced to one of the biggest advantage of the 5D and made it even heavier !

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5 upvotes
WirenL
By WirenL (Mar 2, 2012)

Hmmm, have you thought about using Olympus or Pentax before... smaller lighter bodies... not the best in the noise department, but fully capable cameras with great lenses and much smaller bodies! Heck, even with the new OM-D... you could save half the size, but that's not truly a DSLR...close, but no cigar - I would look at the Oly E-5... you may like that.

3 upvotes
Rutterbutter
By Rutterbutter (Mar 2, 2012)

Pentax K-5 is VERY capable in high ISO. It ranks as high as any other APS-C currently.

2 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Mar 2, 2012)

To WirenL and the others : I already own two MFT cameras, the E-P3 and the G3. But I miss the clean pixels of the 5D and I use the Canon TSE lenses.

If Olympus or any other manufacturer was offering shift lenses I'd leave the Canon DSLRs entirely, hoping that the OMD sensor was good enough. But I do need shift lenses.

So for the moment I do still need a DSLR. I hope that Canon would offer a camera like the D60 was to the 7D, because I want the articulated LCD.

2 upvotes
rgarijo
By rgarijo (Mar 2, 2012)

Good reply rrr_hhh. Other people refer to insult. I am also a mirrorless cam user, but I want a FF camera for DR and high ISO capabilities. I am hoping one day one manufacturer releases a mirrorless FF camera, or a DSLR lighter and smaller than these monsters packing functionalities and capabilities I am not going to use

0 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

@ rrr_hhh:
agree... i've been asking for at least a more logical 'modular' VASS (Vari-Angle Swivel Screen) a mainstay of Canon PowerShots since year 2000... slowly offered on EOS dSLR (too slow)

but i understand the downside of a 'built-in' VASS, it must endure more heavy duty commerical usage, so, a light compact robust 'modular' hi-res VASS makes more sense... (than third party humongous 'pro-industry' VASS too bulky for prosumer enthusiast use.

offer me a 3.2" modular VASS on top of the current fixed LCD, and one can imagine greater VASS-perspective shooting like PowerShot VASS or 60D/600D

plus a modular version can be update/upgraded/interchanged/replaced, etc. has to be integrated to the system, and not be odd-sized notepad laptops/pads, etc. (for better ergonomics)

1 upvote
DioCanon
By DioCanon (Mar 2, 2012)

there is already a mirrorless FF camera,
is made by Leica and the name is M9.
I hope you guys have the money to buy it and put up with the weight of it, because is not as light as you probably want your camera to be.

1 upvote
Deeso
By Deeso (Mar 2, 2012)

Looks like a great camera. The price doesn't seem as competitive as the D800's tho

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1 upvote
Jaimito
By Jaimito (Mar 2, 2012)

looks like a winner. perfect balance of ISO, IQ and speed. HDR feature and 61 pot AF is going to be neat. i'll upgrade for sure.

3 upvotes
MirkoK
By MirkoK (Mar 2, 2012)

wow, not a 1:1 currency exchange?
still 3500usd is not 3300euro....its 2600.......

1 upvote
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Mar 2, 2012)

US prices are always announced without VAT, you have to add 20% ( well VAT vary between 18-22% depending on the country), still US price, plus 20% VAT = 3165€, so they do still get it for less.

1 upvote
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

:D
just be glad it wasn't '3500' across all currencies... (common before)

but major global economics have had big currency shifts as well as gold value shifts, making the 3500 a bit over what i expected to be 3300 (looking at just gold... the 5D3 would now be 3300/2 = 1650 in 2008 gold values... all other currencies and economies got pummeled in the last 4 years)

so 3500 is 200 above that 3300 'double' mark i expected. (costs have doubled; but this means cost of mfr had to be halved to stay ahead, i don't think that is possible... well, with Japan Inc, yes, maybe...)

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METROMODEPHOTO
By METROMODEPHOTO (Mar 2, 2012)

well"well" "well", 5D MARK-3 AT 22MP AND D800 AT 36MP THEN BOTH FOR AROUND 3.300 {WHATS-UP-WITH-"THAT"} CANON? I WOULD THINK THAT THE 5D MARK -3 WOULD HAVE MORE MP FOR THE MONEY", AT LEAST WITH 45MP GIVING YOU THE OPTION TO GO DOWN TO 22MP WOULD BE NICE.I LIKE TO UPGRADE TO A SECOND BODY FROM MY 7D AND HAVE A FULL SIZE SENSOR SLR FOR ONCE. IT LOOKS LIKE NIKON ANSWERED THE "Q" FOR ME. NO PLAN ON SWITCHING AT ALL BUT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOUR GOING TO UPGRADE THE 5D MARK-2 TO A "3", THEN DO IT IN EVERY WAY I WOULD THINK". MABY THERE IS A "5D-X" WHO KNOWS, I GUES WE WILL SEE IN DO TIME"

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BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (Mar 2, 2012)

Get over the MP's please. Sensor technology has jumped leaps and bounds. Cramming more smaller pixels into a space isn't always recommended. Create a sensor with larger pixels and more light, detail and colour can be captured. Read up on it before commenting

4 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

illogical, who wants to pay more for more noise at more 36Mp???

a worse deal, but same reasoning.

2 upvotes
Chev Chelios
By Chev Chelios (Mar 2, 2012)

Anyone know whether it will let you spot meter off a selected AF point??

All I can find is the marketing guff about the "63-zone Dual-Layer sensor linked to each point of the AF system" but no word whether spot metering can be moved off of the centre point.

0 upvotes
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Mar 2, 2012)

I believe it will. I'll check tomorrow.

0 upvotes
Zerg2905
By Zerg2905 (Mar 2, 2012)

Call me crazy, but it looks more like an EOS-3 to me... That camera was (and is) inspirational.

0 upvotes
Chev Chelios
By Chev Chelios (Mar 2, 2012)

Thanks Richard, appreciate the follow-up.

(I would have guessed the answer would be no, but you never know - Canon may have been feeling generous!)

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bachie
By bachie (Mar 2, 2012)

That is the exactly same question as I have.
If the 5D3's off-ceter AF point are not correspond to spot exposure, it'll be NONSENSE. I am afraid that it will be true.

0 upvotes
Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

Yes spot metering is much less of a necessity with digital shooting since you can easily review a shot and adjust exposure bias or bracket shots all without costing the user any money since it is not using any film. Plus metering systems have greatly improved over the years even more reason why spot metering is not that important these days.

0 upvotes
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

Seriously, i waited about 80 minutes just to see all the predictable goons come out (let's see how many?)

2 upvotes
Zerg2905
By Zerg2905 (Mar 2, 2012)

I'm a "goon" that owns an AE-1, an EOS-3, a 7D and a 5D Mk II. And a bag of L lenses. I like Canon, but , you know, the best friend is the one who tells you upfront where he/she thinks you messed up, not just how beautiful you are each and every day. I think you should apologize in the front of all the "goons" and please stop using such "terminology" on this site.

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alxdava
By alxdava (Mar 2, 2012)

how much s..t can you eat for Canon?!!!! just asking...

4 upvotes
DioCanon
By DioCanon (Mar 2, 2012)

I think if zerg recognise himself as a goon, that's what he is...

2 upvotes
Zerg2905
By Zerg2905 (Mar 2, 2012)

Folks (alxdava & DioCanon), you are all cool. I'm a goon. And because of that, I will stop posting on this topic - you are too intelligent and also too polite for me.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

2 members (troll profiles?) 5 and 6 months old... 1 month apart...
and 1 member barely 25 months old and all had already self-identified as 'goons' (i didn't say all were goons, just a lot were)

i won't be apologizing to legit goons (several had created profiles to bait me in private messages here on DPR (with more bizarre profile names) before just after i made comments on 5D3 several months back, so, although you may have had 5D2 experience, it doesn't mean you understand my point.

i never said everyone is a goon... think (and look) before you respond next time.

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SonyA77
By SonyA77 (Mar 2, 2012)

No XQD memory card support? Score 1 for Nikon and Sony future models..

0 upvotes
Zerg2905
By Zerg2905 (Mar 2, 2012)

Canon is the company that has the best engineers but also the worst marketing people. 5DMkIII is superb but it should have been complemented with a "5D X" with 40 Mp+ so that Nikon (or Sony) would have been grounded big time (I think "silenced" is the word). One more: 5D Mk II was affordable. 5D Mk III is not that affordable. And if an hypothetical 5D X will be even more expensive, this will only redirect people (especially the neofites or the ones with small Canon lens investment) towards Nikon. My take (again): bravo to the Canon ENG crowd that made this camera possible, shame to Canon's MKT crowd for their lack of vision. Cheers! P.S.: Canon Marketing people, if you read this you should do a market research - maybe you will find out that I am right (especially after Nikon D800 launch).

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Mar 2, 2012)

They should have made a camera with 37 megapixels for one dollar less than the D800 and then all the people who have accumulated Nikon lenses over the years would immediately dump everything and switch. Since they were barely able to keep up with demand for the 5DII my guess is that they'll do ok selling this camera to people who already use Canon.

0 upvotes
Zerg2905
By Zerg2905 (Mar 2, 2012)

Hopefully for them, yes. But there is a difference between "big" and "great". And again, for a "sane" mind 5D Mk III seen alone is superb. But it's no longer alone, right?

0 upvotes
AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Mar 2, 2012)

40mp is 1mp short of Nokia 808, and it's just a goddamn phone.

1 upvote
BestExposures
By BestExposures (Mar 3, 2012)

go buy the nokia then if MP is the most important feature of a good camera. Im told the lenses available for that camera are fantastic - hollywood is going to drop the arri and red cameras and use nokia now! LOL. I bet half the folks on here won't even buy one of these cameras anyway. Its like reading high school kids talk about lamborghini vs ferrari, fighting to the death about which is better - as if it even matters. While we are arguing about this crap, the real movers and shakers are making MILLIONS. Who cares! Go out and do something worthwhile. You don't like it, don't buy it. You do, go buy it. What do you care about what other people might think anyway. If that is your number one concern -well, you're an idiot.I obviously want to discuss it (so I am no better than any of you) but really, the stupid hatred and chest beating is idiotic. Did you make this phone yourself?Did you invest your lifes savings into its development?who cares guys, buy it or don't buy it, period

0 upvotes
KlausP
By KlausP (Mar 2, 2012)

Disappointed!

Canon 5D III is a minor upgrade for a major price. If you do a lot of video or shoot stills in the dark, the improvements may be worth the price. On the other hand, if architectural, fashion, or landscape photography are your bag, there's little here of interest. Given that the improvements center on video options, auto focus, and (I'm assuming) a stop or so improvement in image noise, I see little to differentiate the new model from the old for a large segment of still photographers. And yes, many photographers print 24x36 and up. I often push my 5DII to the limit. Here's hoping Canon has another card up its sleeve; otherwise Canon will have lost two sales, one to the person who gets a deal my 5DII and the other to a new Nikon D800E.

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JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (Mar 2, 2012)

Sure, for mk II owners. But for people with e.g. 50D/60D/7D that have been postponing upgrading to the 5D in light of this sequel, it is definitely of interest. Remember, during the three years since the mk II release the market has grown a fair bit.

The other "card" for Canon is the 1D X as you probably know.

0 upvotes
raizans
By raizans (Mar 2, 2012)

well, 22mp is a bit of a downer, as is the video spec.

could you imagine the furor there would have been if it had 36mp (with no anti-alias filter) and 4k video?

and when will canon quit messing around with the prism hump? hey, industrial designers of canon! you figured it out on the 1dsmkiii. stop while you're ahead!

at least the af finally uses 1-series tech.

3 upvotes
Bill1969
By Bill1969 (Mar 2, 2012)

Nikon and Canon switched places, Nikon fanboys used to brag about low res sensors which gives better high ISO photos, now, Nikon d800 has significantly higher pixel density, i bet 5d mk3 will have better high iso images...

Its funny now Nikon fanboys are bragging about high mp...

2 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Mar 2, 2012)

Nonsense, no one is bragging about the 36mp. First, because hardly anybody has used the camera. And second, many people are concerned about the noise and file size that come with 36mp. Although I will admit, at introductory prices, the D800 seems like more for the money. These contradictory thoughts are what you get when you use the equipment instead of worship the manufacturer.

2 upvotes
calxn
By calxn (Mar 2, 2012)

Nikon and Canon switched places, Canon fanboys used to brag about high res sensor, now Canon 5D III has significantly lower pixel density, I bet the the D800 will have higher res images...

Its funny now Canon fanboys are bragging about low mp...

See how that works?

0 upvotes
Bill1969
By Bill1969 (Mar 2, 2012)

So i can simply repeat all Nikon fanboys comments pre D800...

1 upvote
Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Mar 2, 2012)

there are a whole lot of fake troll profiles (incl equip profiles) pretending to be Canon 'fanboys' touting or disappointed about not having a 36Mp Canon, so i'd doubt the trend you saw was legit.

in the last few hours, another new profile was created only to naysay... totally out of the blue (amongst many i've encountered in the last few months trolling the Canon forums, and at least one created a profile just to message me directly with a creepy profile name)... that's desperation, and uncalled for really.

1 upvote
Antonio Rojilla
By Antonio Rojilla (Mar 2, 2012)

For those that NOW think that less pixels is better... may I remember you that they still sell the D700? And at $2200... Let's see how the MKIII compares to it at high ISOs. Will it be $1300 better?

0 upvotes
Octane
By Octane (Mar 2, 2012)

A solid and worthy upgrade. Nothing overwhelming, nothing stands out, though. The price seems a little high compared to the D800 which is what people will look at side by side.

Personally I find 22 mp more sane than 36, but then the average users still thinks more = better.

3 upvotes
Digital Suicide
By Digital Suicide (Mar 2, 2012)

Viewfinder looks tiny.

0 upvotes
Prestidigitator
By Prestidigitator (Mar 2, 2012)

Which would then make the D800 VF look microscopic. Read up on the specs first before spewing ignorance.

1 upvote
M Jesper
By M Jesper (Mar 2, 2012)

Lol, a 0.01x magnification difference. A number which are no strict rules for in the first place i might add. So the 'experience' could go either way. The Nikon does look more comfortable imo, not to mention they're know for their High-Eyepoint VFs, enabling you to see the full image from further away. And i'm sure there is more about the VFs that we can't read in the specs.

0 upvotes
turbatn
By turbatn (Mar 2, 2012)

Not bad

0 upvotes
pacogwapo
By pacogwapo (Mar 2, 2012)

tst tsk loser...

0 upvotes
Prestidigitator
By Prestidigitator (Mar 2, 2012)

Yeah, Noink fanbois all are.

0 upvotes
pacogwapo
By pacogwapo (Mar 2, 2012)

so boring, better take a sleep...

0 upvotes
Prestidigitator
By Prestidigitator (Mar 2, 2012)

Pacopanget.

0 upvotes
pacogwapo
By pacogwapo (Mar 2, 2012)

ikaw mas pangit lol! bwahahaha

0 upvotes
Prestidigitator
By Prestidigitator (Mar 2, 2012)

So all the Noink fanbois repeating the mantras "12MP is enough" and "High ISO is more important than megapixels" since 2007 are now changing their tune? LOL. As if these fanbois even print their pictures to huge sizes that they require 36MP.

1 upvote
Jon Rty
By Jon Rty (Mar 2, 2012)

Do you honestly believe that Canon will best Nikon for low-light performance after 5 years of fruitless trying? 36mp or not, the D800 will most likely be as good or better when viewed at the same size.

1 upvote
doctorbza
By doctorbza (Mar 2, 2012)

specs are exactly what i want.... except one: the price.

i'm gonna have to tell myself some good lies in order to rationalize this one!

2 upvotes
Zebooka
By Zebooka (Mar 2, 2012)

Not a killer.

4 upvotes
AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Mar 2, 2012)

Yeah, it's a camera.. hahaha

1 upvote
DioCanon
By DioCanon (Mar 2, 2012)

this sounds like my dream camera!
I am glad I waited for this one! my 60D will be happy to be the back up camera of the 5DmIII and to share the same batteries and SDHC cards!

61 auto focus point!
22 mpx!
weather sealed!
dual card slot sd/cf!
6fps!
there are still people that just look at megapixels, I wonder if they use they photos for anything else but Facebook...?
and who thinks the above improvements are just minor ones go and get a Nikon, they know how to catch big fishes like you!

5 upvotes
Photodog7
By Photodog7 (Mar 2, 2012)

Actually Canon just copied Nikon in this situation. Nikon has always been the company to come out with lower megapixel, but hire quality ones. Canon modeled them selves after Nikon this time around. But from the images Ive have seen the D800 high Iso is pretty impressive with the added bonus of 36 monster pixels. Sounds pretty good to me.

4 upvotes
tornwald
By tornwald (Mar 2, 2012)

I am neither a Canon nor a Nikon guy, but you've got to admit that Nikon just blew Canon back to the stone age with their d800(e). Granted, we'll have to wait for the first real results, but on paper the d800(e) looks a lot, lot better (on all fronts) then the 5dmk3.

1 upvote
tiberiousgracchus
By tiberiousgracchus (Mar 2, 2012)

2100 $ body only if the new lens out of the equation. not bad at all

0 upvotes
SRHelicity
By SRHelicity (Mar 2, 2012)

Ah, it's $3499 body only. Where did you get $2100?

2 upvotes
JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (Mar 2, 2012)

He was probably thinking of the expected street price after the initial buzz has worn off... Canon SRP is always too high compared to street, one wonders why they shoot themselves in the foot that way every time.

0 upvotes
tiberiousgracchus
By tiberiousgracchus (Mar 3, 2012)

sorry my mistake.was on amazon and did not check if it was body only or not. was early morning..or I was dreaming ;)

Comment edited 49 seconds after posting
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Demmos
By Demmos (Mar 2, 2012)

Any word on the HDMI... will it stream an uncompressed full HD signal directly out of the camera via the HDMI port like the D800?

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Mar 2, 2012)

That's covered in the preview. No, it won't.

Canon thinks most people would prefer intraframe compression as being easier to handle.

Comment edited 58 seconds after posting
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getman
By getman (Mar 2, 2012)

Is it? I can't find it, could you post a quotation?

Okay, they don't want us to capture uncompressed HD, but what about MONITORING?! [sigh]

0 upvotes
Noogy
By Noogy (Mar 2, 2012)

This addresses my requirement to upgrade from 7D to full-frame, at a price point that is within reach. Works for me.

3 upvotes
d smith
By d smith (Mar 2, 2012)

Awesome, I love how folks are always ready to abandon ship at announcements. Go ahead and dump your gear, just let me know where I can get your stuff for a used price while you switch sides to buy new again, only to repeat at the next announcement! haha The gear by these companies surpass the knowledge and effort most fanboys will ever practice anyway. Go back to film bitches.

1 upvote
scott_mcleod
By scott_mcleod (Mar 2, 2012)

$500 too expensive, 1fps too slow (at least you can shoot for 3 seconds)

I was *so* hyped that this could replace both my 7D and D700... so much for that idea... :(

1 upvote
Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Mar 2, 2012)

You'll never be happy. As for your 7D and D700 (if in fact you actually own them), the 5D3 is better than both of them.

0 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Mar 2, 2012)

I think you're right but speaking of actually owning the cameras, how did you manage to get a 5D III so quickly? I mean, there isn't really any way to say it's better than some other camera without seeing what it produces.

2 upvotes
scott_mcleod
By scott_mcleod (Mar 2, 2012)

I upgraded from a D300 to a 7D to get access to Canon's excellent medium-tele lenses, 26% more resolution and more fps without the added bulk and weight of a $500 grip.

If the original specs (6.9fps - almost the speed of the 7D) had been true, and if the image quality turned out to be at least equal to the D700 in low-light, the 5DIII *would* have been a good replacement for both cameras (the 200/2.8L would get me the same image magnification as the 135/2L on the 7D). What's so hard to understand about wanting to consolidate two cameras with different mounts into just one? Is it also hard to swallow that the price seems a *bit* OTT compared to the (slow) D800?

And why is it so difficult to believe I have gear from 2 manufacturers? Not everyone who isn't going into spasms of ecstasy over the 5DIII is a troll... sheesh...

1 upvote
f64Craft
By f64Craft (Mar 2, 2012)

USB 3.o or a Gig Ethernet would have been nice....

4 upvotes
Robert Hoy
By Robert Hoy (Mar 2, 2012)

Most users will use a card reader. Mine is built into my computer screen. No cables to mess around with nor do I need to ever have my camera at my computer.

0 upvotes
crabb3
By crabb3 (Mar 2, 2012)

When will be able to purchase it?

0 upvotes
Photodog7
By Photodog7 (Mar 2, 2012)

pre order at bh already available

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