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Sony promises more NEX lenses in updated E-mount lens roadmap

By dpreview staff on Feb 9, 2012 at 01:00 GMT

Sony has said it will have 15 lenses ready for the NEX system by the end of 2013. It made the annoucement of an expanded E-mount roadmap at the start of the CP+ trade show in Yokohama, Japan. The roadmap includes a variety of zooms and prime lenses, including a high-end standard zoom with Sony's premium 'G' branding. There will also be a pancake prime and a mid-telephoto prime lens some time during 2013.

The roadmap is understandably hazy about exactly when each lens will arrive but with the huge biennial Photokina trade show coming later in 2012, it seems reasonable to assume some will arrive then.

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Sergey Borachev
By Sergey Borachev (Feb 9, 2012)

Too little too late, and hopefully not too mediocre when they do arrive.

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slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (Feb 9, 2012)

It is about the time, SONY ...

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glacierpete
By glacierpete (Feb 9, 2012)

It sounds like all these posters are primarily interested in autofoucs lenses. Sony's short registration distance allows to adapt about every make of lens including tiny Leica M and Zeiss ZM lenses. Ricoh has no problems with the short registration distance of rangefinder lenses on an APS-C sensor.

I cannot see how AF could improve a wideangle lens like a Voigtländer CV15 on a Nex5n, because nearly everything is in focus anyway. This lens is an incredible performer on a Nex5n.

As a fist step i would love to see a Nex software upgrade to add some lens information into the exif for manual lenses. Make focal length and f-stop information for 5 manual lenses selectable. Nikon has a similar function on it's DSLRs.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (Feb 9, 2012)

"Short registration distance" is what I hear from Sony NEX adepts.
With that you will have shitty AF E-mount lenses and old but good MF lenses from SLRs, and some Cosina RF lenses. That's about it. So what's the point of having such system?

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T3
By T3 (Feb 9, 2012)

It seems like it's becoming quite apparent that lenses aren't Sony's forte.

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nathanleebush
By nathanleebush (Feb 9, 2012)

lol tell me about it.. the only bright spot is the premium standard zoom.. but that's not til the end of the year!

Every NEX lens I've felt, besides the too large but excellent Zeiss 24, feels like a little plastic toy..

I shot a music video with a FS100 though and used the Novoflex Nikon adaptor and some old primes, and the 24-70 and had some pretty sweet results: http://vimeo.com/35002297

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Miguel Teotonio
By Miguel Teotonio (Feb 9, 2012)

Really? Maybe on the E-mount camp for now. Take a look at DxO Mark camera lens rating.

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digifan
By digifan (Feb 9, 2012)

DxO now also rates lenses. Ah, then Sony's must be the best. LOL.
I think Sony's afraid VERY afraid, yhey had to release this sh!tty roadmap with gohst lenses else all will flock to N/K and m43.

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shooter1000
By shooter1000 (Feb 9, 2012)

Isn't Sony having some...money issues?
Are they nearing the meltdown that another Company just experienced?
If Sony does care about it's customer base...why haven't they produced more lenes in the NEX realm?
I have a NEX and simply love the little camera, but the company is lacking in producing lenses for the thing.
Oh well....back to the old standbys...DSLRs I guess....

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Plochmann
By Plochmann (Feb 9, 2012)

Very foreboding for Nex. I suspected, in my limited knowledge, that the flange depth of mount diameter were too small for these sensor sizes; and it seems Sony is proving my guess somewhat correct. Even if they manage faster, better lenses, they won't be significantly smaller than traditional SLR lenses and that kinda voids the Nex system. I'm sure e-mount can thrive on the cinema side because small lenses aren't favored, but as m4/3 sensors catch up and Sony keeps balking, it will seem like other systems will be better investments. No reason to have small cameras with big lenses.

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jvideographer
By jvideographer (Feb 9, 2012)

"No reason to have small cameras with big lenses."

Then I'd better not use my Nikkor 70-200 on my dinky D300!

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N0BOX
By N0BOX (Feb 9, 2012)

Uhhh... even if you put the LA-EA2 adapter on the NEX and use the Alpha mount lenses, the NEX cameras are smaller than DSLRs. It's smaller, and when you stick it on a big lens, the lens only gains a little bit of weight.

You can't physically make an APS-C sensor with a lens attached to it any smaller than the NEX, so all you are complaining about is that you don't want to use an APS-C sensor. That's fine, go get a m4/3 camera, or go smaller and get one of those tiny sensor Nikon 1s... heck, go really small and buy an iPhone!

I like the way pictures taken on the Sony APS-C sensor look, so I guess I'll stick with my *HUGE* NEX-5N and take nice-looking pictures.

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Jasvox
By Jasvox (Feb 9, 2012)

I'd rather carry my NEX-5n with the kit lens than my "other brand" full size DSLR with its kit lens...its half the size and weight...maybe even 1/3. If you are missing an arm or hand, then you have credible complaint.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (Feb 9, 2012)

So what exactly is being released this year? It looks like late 2012 or 2013 before we see anything. If so that's just absurd. They should already have 5-6 new lenses being gradually released this year alone.

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SammyToronto
By SammyToronto (Feb 9, 2012)

This lens roadmap validates my decision of going with the m4/3 system over the NEX system when I was looking to buy a mirrorless camera last year. I had to choose between the NEX's superior sensors and m4/3 superior lens quality/collection and I decided the latter was more important (the m4/3 12/16mp sensors are plenty good enough for me, especially with the fast, quality reasonably-priced glass available). I returned the nex-5n and bought an e-pm1 + a panny 20mm lens and couldn't be happier.

I was planning to revisit the NEX system again when Sony release fast, quality, pancake primes, but that will apparently have to wait for some time yet.

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Nic Walmsley
By Nic Walmsley (Feb 9, 2012)

We are sailing in the exact same boats

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gianniviola
By gianniviola (Feb 9, 2012)

Also I am considering switching to m4 / 3

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chadley_chad
By chadley_chad (Feb 9, 2012)

Did the same, sold my NEX-5 and went GF3 with twin lens kit and 20mm. Low light dynamics seem poor though and menu system tricky (I need to spend more time with it really, am I asking too much?) ... And I REALLY miss a realtime screen view of how aperture changes will effect the final shot. As such, I've just purchased a cheap NEX-C3 to weigh up the two together.

Tell you what, focusing was dog slow but I miss the every time quality output of my trusty S95!!!!

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TorsteinH
By TorsteinH (Feb 9, 2012)

Just set noice reduction and saturation to their max settings and Im sure your panasonic GF-3 can give you the same quality output! :-)

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Calvin Chann
By Calvin Chann (Feb 9, 2012)

Oh please. m43 weren't exactly quick with new lenses either and they had 2 manufacturers working on it. Only at the end of 2011 were some really good lenses forthcoming. And how long has m43 been around?

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LukeDuciel
By LukeDuciel (Feb 9, 2012)

Among all the mirrorless players. I have to say, only Fuji and Panasonic got the good lenses line-up right from the beginning.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (Feb 9, 2012)

Samsung has much better lens lineup than both Fuji and Panasonic.
Sony lenses are a joke.

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Jasvox
By Jasvox (Feb 9, 2012)

Where is the Samsung?

The Fuji is huge and expensive compared the NEX

Panasonic is M4/3...enough said about that.

At the end of the day, every camera and system has tradeoffs, it just depends on the ones you can live with and the shooters wants versus needs. If you cant make a decent picture with any of these options, you should change hobbies or professions.

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Calvin Chann
By Calvin Chann (Feb 9, 2012)

Fuji, really?

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Edmond Leung
By Edmond Leung (Feb 9, 2012)

More new Carl Zeiss lenses would be better. Sony should consider to cooperate with other brands, like Leica, Cooke and Angenieux.

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88SAL
By 88SAL (Feb 9, 2012)

Look up who owns what camera/glass company and see the possibilites. The market does not favor sony/leica.

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Fabio Amodeo
By Fabio Amodeo (Feb 9, 2012)

Sorry, Angenieux has been out of business for many years, and Cooke is specialized in cine lenses, which have different characters, needs and design priorities than photo lenses. Sony could contract Zeiss to design more specialized Nex lenses, but that costs money, and, uh, it does not seem to be the right moment for Sony

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orvarino
By orvarino (Feb 9, 2012)

I would agree that there needs to be more "Carl Zeiss like quality lenses", like the 50/1.8 OSS. I've got the Zeiss 24mm, and it's good but the blue stuff in the Zeiss-logo must be +90% unobtainium because the IQ compared to the 50mm 1.8 OSS does not justify the price diff (yes i know it's easier to make a good IQ 50 than a 24, but still). The problem in making pro APS-C lenses is that they will be of APS-C pro size; ie. something pro APS-C like the Tokina AT-X Pro 50-135/2,8 on a NEX would just defy the mirrorless concept.

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CFynn
By CFynn (Feb 9, 2012)

Sorry the majority of the public would not recognize names like Cooke and Angenieux, or even the slightly better known Schneider and Rodenstock. Zeiss (and probably even just plain Sony) is a much more marketable name to most people. Of course the famous Leica are already tied up with Sony's rival Panasonic, so that one is not very likely.

The people who know about these esoteric lens brands are the ones buying up old lenses and using them with adapters.

I do wonder why the CZ primes for the NEX have to cost so much more than the primes Fuji has announced for the XPro-1. Fujinon optics traditionally have a very good reputation as well - and the manufacturing costs can be little different

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Edmond Leung
By Edmond Leung (Feb 10, 2012)

Fabio, are your sure Angenieux has been out of business? Angenieux is now belonging to Thales Group and their name is "Thales Angénieux". Please check.

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VonChudz
By VonChudz (Feb 9, 2012)

I usually do not post any comments, but in this case I MUST write one: With the NEX-7 Sony came out with a camera I dreamed of as a very serious amateur. I was waiting, until a few moments ago, for the NEX-7 that I ordered last September…. I just canceled my order. With such a winner camera design and features I was certain that Sony/Zeiss would develop quality and fast lenses sooner than later. I want autofocus: I want Zeiss and G quality to take advantage of the 24Mp…. All that the brainless Sony people can think of are cheap zooms that the 24Mp sensor will only show how bad they are. ONLY 1 Zeiss and 1 G lens for all of 2012 and 2013??? Sony still thinks small when it comes to photographers: great e-mount bodies (finally) and a collection of lenses that are, in my opinion, good for Sunday amateurs (maybe not even). I am so disappointed and will wait for the Fuji X Pro-1 to arrive. Wake up SONY, and realize that great bodies are worthless if you have mostly cheap lenses.

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Michael Knight
By Michael Knight (Feb 9, 2012)

why is sony introducing a dedicated cropped G lens?
the G series should just stick for full-frame!

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Vlad S
By Vlad S (Feb 9, 2012)

Minolta did not hesitate to put a G lens on the prosumer DImage cameras. If Sony wants to market the system to serious enthusiasts it needs to produce serious lenses.

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anaksatawo
By anaksatawo (Feb 9, 2012)

unless it is for fullframe! 0.o

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psn
By psn (Feb 9, 2012)

Uh, the NEX uses an APS-C sized sensor. Why would you design a lens for full-frame? People are already complaining about the size of the current lenses...

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AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Feb 9, 2012)

Maybe the next NEX will be FF? Who knows.

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CFynn
By CFynn (Feb 9, 2012)

If Sony ever do make a full frame NEX it will probably have to have a different mount. Someone from Sony said as much.

The E-mount was not designed for full frame.

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swpars
By swpars (Feb 9, 2012)

I'll take the so-so Sony lens roadmap and the awesome NEX APS-C sensors. MFT's latest sensors are about as good as a Canon Rebel from 2005ish, but the NEX 16 mp sensor is the equal of any 2012 APS-C DSLR.

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mfj197
By mfj197 (Feb 9, 2012)

Funny, the 16MP M43 sensor in the G3 trounces my old Canon EOS30D, and using the comparator here on DPReview it beats the 50D at both base and high ISO. It's equal to the 60D from base to ISO1600, and that's a prosumer camera from late 2010.

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Jon Ragnarsson
By Jon Ragnarsson (Feb 9, 2012)

It's really a shame. I'm no fan of Sony, neither as a company, or as a camera designer (although some of the new Alphas are interesting), but they have one of the best APS-C sensor available, and the NEX system is quite compact, it's just shame that it is let down by crappy lenses.

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Dan
By Dan (Feb 9, 2012)

I hear the 18-200 is pretty good.

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AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Feb 9, 2012)

Tamron's or Sony's?

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chadley_chad
By chadley_chad (Feb 9, 2012)

I hear the 18-200 costs a small fortune!!!!

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Jasvox
By Jasvox (Feb 9, 2012)

Jon, have you personally used any available Sony lenses on the NEX? They are quite capable and an excellent value.

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CFynn
By CFynn (Feb 9, 2012)

@Dan "I hear the 18-200 is pretty good."

It may be "pretty good" for an 18-200mm zoom - but 10x zoom lens designs involve a lot of compromises, and none of them are exactly stellar optics for still photography.

Still such wide range lenses are very popular with consumers - and maybe Sony (like Panasonic) can fix some of the shortcomings of such lenses in the camera software.

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Dan
By Dan (Feb 10, 2012)

I was referring to the Sony 18-200mm. Many of these "compromises" can be corrected automatically by the camera body (CA, distortion, fall-off). We're no longer as limited by the constraints of the yesterdecades. The only potential downside is the small maximum aperture, but cameras these days have great high-ISO performance, so I'm willing to make that kind of trade-off, especially if it means getting the shot vs. not getting the shot. I have been using Nikon's 18-200mm since it first came out, and it is my favorite lens. I used it on my Fuji S2 Pro, Nikon D200, Fuji S5 Pro, and now my Nikon D300. Sony's lens is even silent for video capture, so that's a huge plus.

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jj74e
By jj74e (Feb 9, 2012)

The fact that they haven't even decided on the actual focal lengths yet makes me doubtful that they'll actually release all these in the next two years. It'll probably be delayed perpetually.

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ZeevK
By ZeevK (Feb 9, 2012)

They surely desided already and are working on the lenses, but prefer not to disclose exact specifications - yet. That is obviouse and reasonable. Learning from past, Sony strictly followed the old road-map for 2010-2011. No reason to question their seriousness to follow the current roadmap.

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pdelux
By pdelux (Feb 9, 2012)

I guess it's easy to follow a roadmap of 2 lenses =)

Just a joke. I hope for sony's sake they figure out this probelm theyre having

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CFynn
By CFynn (Feb 9, 2012)

Perhaps Sony should license the lenses Fuji are bringing out for the X-Pro and sell them with their own barrel design and E-mount. They might be able to ask Samsung as well.

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Vadimka
By Vadimka (Feb 9, 2012)

Sony got pretty unlucky acquiring Minolta just few years before whole SLR business was about to turn south in favor of Mirrorless. They did not get their money worth, before they were forced to get back to R&D for mirror removal and create totally new lenses. Old Minolta expertise is not super helpful for them now, and they need more.

Hopefully rumors about Sony's interest of investment/partnership with Olympus is true. They could use some help in lens department, while Olympus could gain in sensor and OLED EVF technology. (especially since Panasonic is no longer interested in Olympus)

I believe 5N is the best camera today for MF legacy lenses, and their Cine cameras are some of the best period. Sony and Oly would be a perfect couple capable, if not killing, at least hurting Canikon business by huge margin. (especially considering how slow they have been to react to changes)

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Conrad567
By Conrad567 (Feb 9, 2012)

The problem is sony has thrown all of it's mirrorless weight behind the E series cameras with a cropped sensor. FF will always be artistically superior to a cropped sensor...at least as far as depth of field is concerned. Therefor I believe that the DSLR is still a worthwhile investment for Sony in the future.

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Vadimka
By Vadimka (Feb 9, 2012)

Conrad, I agree, but FF DSLR alone won't bring the revenue Sony needs. Sony needs to develop consumer products, so called bread and butter stuff. And also its only the matter of time before FF mirrorless is released (the ball is in Sony's court) Based on what they did with 5N its obvious that they know what needs to be done to make it work. I can bet my 5N, we will see FF sony NEX one day, just need that nice sensor with micro-lenses. (just like Kodak did for Leica, maybe a bit better)

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Michael Knight
By Michael Knight (Feb 9, 2012)

yes, gotta hurt the canikon.
because competition is good for consumers :)

it's not easy to gain market share of the DSLR. remember how Nikon lost to Canon many many years ago, and has since been trying to gain back the market share until now?

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Fabio Amodeo
By Fabio Amodeo (Feb 9, 2012)

I would not be so sure that Nex mount is compatible with full frame, in mount size and flange distance respects. I think it would require lenses design so telecentric that even a supposed pancake would be huge. I think there would be no size advantage over DSLR.

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aliraqi
By aliraqi (Feb 9, 2012)

All sony lenses are weak compared with other brands, i have nikon which are better in sharpness, color,F-stop...etc
have NEX-FS100 and hope they can make nice lenses not these rubbish stuff.

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AllC
By AllC (Feb 9, 2012)

This roadmap sucks big time! why so many long zooms? shorter focal lengths are more useful. For now I'll stick to my Nex-5 and some legacy lenses I already have.

I might wait to 2013, hopefully there will be a sweet Nex-9 with those lenses you're promising Sony, but it might be too late and I'll probably have a Pentax K-02 or something else by that time, and NEX will be a memory of something that seemed nice at the time but didn't deliver...

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Vlad S
By Vlad S (Feb 9, 2012)

Sony continues to position the NEX system as mid-level in their lineup. f/3.5 is fine for a macro lens, but 30mm sounds awfully short. Nevertheless, it should appeal to those who ask "how close can you focus?" And then only one G lens in the foreseeable future? 50mm f/1.8 is the only portrait choice? Micro 4/3 definitely have an advantage with the new 60mm macro and 75mm f/1.8.

And the wide angle looks like it's not even in the plans, which is a shame since the new Sony sensor would be so great for landscape.

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chiane
By chiane (Feb 9, 2012)

Does sony hate ultra wide angle?

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danaceb
By danaceb (Feb 9, 2012)

Where are the 35mm=50mm equiv lenses?... common Sony, considering your resources and the amount of time e-mount has been around; it is PATHETIC. Not only are there massive gaps, all we get so far is glorified kit at best quality, even the Zeiss lens is pathetic considering the big fat size and price..

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Sam Carriere
By Sam Carriere (Feb 9, 2012)

if Sony hopes ever to recover a fraction of its credibility, it should deliver on the non-existent NEX-7 before it promises ANYTHING.
No wonder this company lost several billions last year.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Feb 9, 2012)

I handled an Nex 7 at a trade show in October.

Those floods in Thailand caused a lot of trouble, priced out a 2.5 inch laptop hard drive lately. There have been steep price increases.

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Stanny1
By Stanny1 (Feb 9, 2012)

I bought a NEX-3 for real estate pictures. I got it with the 16mm and added the wide converter for an equivalent 18mm. It's great but I need wider. Please build a 10-20 Zoom like Canon has for it's SLRs.

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Xellz
By Xellz (Feb 9, 2012)

Seems like you would be off better with any m4/3 camera and pansonic 7-14mm, which has amazing IQ and 14-28mm FF equivalent.

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odl
By odl (Feb 9, 2012)

Seriously, if Olympus wants to make an extra buck... Make a lens for Sony :) They made the specs free!

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limlh
By limlh (Feb 9, 2012)

Personally, I think Sony made the mistake of using aps-c size sensor in a small body, then having to compromise with out of proportion to body size, lower edge sharpness and slower lens.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Feb 9, 2012)

That's funny, an APSC sensor doesn't seem to have caused problems for Samsung and the NX cameras.

That 30mm F/2.0 Samsung lens is amazing.

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ljmac
By ljmac (Feb 9, 2012)

Samsung chose a more sensible back flange distance. In their race to produce the slimmest possible cameras, Sony made the registration distance too short, making it extremely difficult (if not impossible) to design a good wide angle zoom, which is why you don't see them on their roadmap. It has also resulted in disproportionately huge lenses relative to the camera bodies.

Lenses like Panny's new 14-42 X lens show that the designers of the Micro 4/3rds mount probably got the best compromise between sensor size and practical, compact lens designs.

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limlh
By limlh (Feb 9, 2012)

You may to stick with pancake lens to get good balance on the mirrorless aps-c, or make it huge like Pentax K-01, thus losing the advantages of MILC.

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sean lancaster
By sean lancaster (Feb 9, 2012)

Sigma has a very small 30/2.8 lens coming out in e-mount for the NEX (also a small 19). Small lenses can happen for the APS-C.

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ljmac
By ljmac (Feb 9, 2012)

Only primes. Zooms (or at least zooms of decent quality) will always be big.

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NeilSDPR
By NeilSDPR (Feb 9, 2012)

Pity they don't consider producing an AF capable adapter for EF lenses, sales of Nex bodies could increase substantially

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Feb 9, 2012)

ljmac:

Good point about Sony opting for a thin package. Oddly that's not the first thing I notice on these mirrorless systems.

Whatever lens in mounted usually adds a bit more thickness than the body.

It's not like my Samsung NX100's body is particularly thick either.

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Matthew Hung
By Matthew Hung (Feb 9, 2012)

Still no pancake lens this year...

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CFynn
By CFynn (Feb 9, 2012)

Whenever those "pancakes" appear, people will inevitably complain that they are too slow or that they don't have the best IQ

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Tim F 101
By Tim F 101 (Feb 9, 2012)

By the end of 2013 Sony should be able to build a time machine and travel to the future, a wondrous place where they will have developed some worthwhile lenses for the NEX system. If they can only bring one back I suggest a bright portrait prime.

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Jonathan Siegel
By Jonathan Siegel (Feb 9, 2012)

I never really comment on these things, and I don't own a NEX but I did consider one once to play with. This lens lineup simply makes no sense *at all*. Do they serious think someone is going to sit down and debate between a very slow 18-200mm and a very slow 55-210mm? Or get excited about a very slow 30mm macro? I'm guessing that only audience for a 30mm macro are food photographers, because you would have to be insane to try shooting poisonous spiders and scorpions with something that short. A slow 18-55mm, isn't that the kit lens that comes with most other DSLR cameras? I don't see anything to get excited about in this roadmap, it's almost like Sony is trying to cross their "t"s and dot their "i"s by covering all the weak links first.

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futile32
By futile32 (Feb 9, 2012)

Can't name a macro shot I've ever taken below F4... Don't get me wrong, having F2.8 is nice, but people rarely use it during macro, cause its pretty shallow at 1:1. Although I've not shot with a 30mm Macro, so it might be less intrusive.

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Jonathan Siegel
By Jonathan Siegel (Feb 9, 2012)

True, true, I guess having had experience with a 50mm macro in the past, even at 50mm I felt it was just too close for shooting anything besides food and beverage. Maybe that is their target for this lens, just seems like a really odd combination of speed and focal length.

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Wally626
By Wally626 (Feb 9, 2012)

I think the lens was probably based on the 30mm alpha DT macro, so it would be quick to market. I expect the new standard prime to be a 35mm f/1.8 clone of the current Alpha DT version.

As far as normal consumers go, they buy the standard zoom and most nothing else, some will get another matching zoom. The 55-210 complements the standard zoom and the 18-200 makes a good travel lens, consumers like zooms. I expect most of the new lenses for the next few years are going to be zooms, although the rood map shows it to be 50:50 between primes and zooms. Once Sony gets the full range of slow and fast zooms covered they will start in on the lessor used primes. The DPR crowd is going to buy many more lenses, and the current Sony line-up needs some help for them. I expect this is a pretty small percent of the market.

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marike6
By marike6 (Feb 9, 2012)

I wanted to buy a NEX-5N for 1080/60p to compliment my GH2 and 5D MK II. In the end, I considered the native lenses (not adverse to MF lenses via adapters, but it's nice have have some native glass) and the only really interesting lens happens to be the $1000. In the end, I just couldn't do it, and ended up adding the first-rate GX1 with PL 25 1.4, which was made easier with Panasonic's $150 rebate for this kit. I couldn't be happier, and in the end it was that one lens that sold me.

Seeing Sony talking about 2013 with a chart of already available lenses, and promises for the future seems a bit strange. Contrast this with Fuji or Panasonic who don't seem to have a problem offering high quality fast primes at decent prices.

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kewlguy
By kewlguy (Feb 9, 2012)

I'm not taking Sony's cr@p anymore. I've owned NEX-5 for more than a year and the only lens usable is the zoom kit. The 16 is pure trash, and the 18-200 is not making any sense with its size. The 'new' ones? big and slow 35 macro, so so 50/1.8 (which is short tele that is not really usable for me) and the big pricey 24 zeiss that performs like a cheaper lens. Sounds harsh? Sony should learn how to make lenses from Samsung and Panasonic! their sensors might not be as good as sony's but as a system they work very well...

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Feb 9, 2012)

Buy the 24mm Zeiss.

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kewlguy
By kewlguy (Feb 9, 2012)

Tried one already, well it not bad, but I got the NEX5 because it's small. Putting a 24 Zeiss rather moots the point. I wished I could mount Samsung 30/2 on my NEX5 :) Something like Panny 20/1.7 won't hurt either... Sony just has to make everything uncompact.

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Fullframer
By Fullframer (Feb 9, 2012)

M43 GF3 with Leica 25mm (50mm fov equiv) F1.4, smaller and cheaper than a NEX5 with 24 Zeiss. Still good quality.

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Deleted1929
By Deleted1929 (Feb 9, 2012)

A fast normal would certainly be welcome, assuming they do it soon. Really needs to be reasonably compact.

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binauralbeats
By binauralbeats (Feb 9, 2012)

This is the weakest lens lineup ever.

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PatMann
By PatMann (Feb 9, 2012)

It's a long wait for a wide lens.

The Zeiss is very nice and as an only lens, probably a great one. Combined with the 50, there's some sort of system here.

But my travel kit also needs a wide lens with at least 90 degree horizontal field - not a "converter." I see a "wide zoom" sometime 2012-2013, but until I see how capable it is, I'm probably not moving on this system. The "high performance" standard zoom may do as a portrait lens if it goes to 60mm with good performance, but a 60mm or 75mm f/2 would be perfect. Don't they have any photographers working on this lens map?

OTOH, if Nikon gives us a compact fast wide prime for DX soon to go with the D300s replacement, I probably won't get into this system at all.

The NEX-7 seems to have huge potential, but is very limited by this lens lineup.

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LokTo
By LokTo (Feb 9, 2012)

too little, too late... see what M43 is offering... NOW!

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Jens_G
By Jens_G (Feb 9, 2012)

Sony can offer more lenses as time passes, m43 sensor will always be small.

Also, focus peaking in Nex cameras means that MF lenses are actually viable.

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Sosua
By Sosua (Feb 9, 2012)

Sony, please hurry up with the wide angle zoom.

Thats what NEX is missing most (along with a compact fastish normalish prime) - a high quality wide angle solution (no the E16 is certainly not it).

My Voigtlander 15 is great on my 5N, but would appear to be a no-go on the high end NEX-7.

A 12-24 type zoom, the 50mm 1.8 OSS and my Leica 90mm would make an awesome, flexible, capable and small kit on the NEX-7.

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F-onefour
By F-onefour (Feb 9, 2012)

LOL

WHAT A FREAKIN' JOKE!

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smolix
By smolix (Feb 9, 2012)

make. believe. I suppose that's what Sony needs to do to sustain the illusion that its lens lineup is competitive with Micro 4/3. So far I'm quite delighted about my GF2 even though it's got a 4 year old sensor in it. Portability and footprint are unbeatable when compared to my Canon with 24-105mm lens. And the primes are quite sharp. So on a good day it's more than good enough.

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Sosua
By Sosua (Feb 9, 2012)

I don't think there is any illusion about it - M43 has much better lens variety.

Problem is, some are not prepared to compromise with the sensors with respect to dynamci range and midtone / shadow noise.

Interested to see what Oly can do with the E-M5 16mp chip and I guess a GH3 is coming sometime...

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smolix
By smolix (Feb 9, 2012)

I agree. The sensor is outstanding. But the lenses ...

It surprises me that Sony isn't capable of releasing affordable fast primes. The main reason why wide angle SLR primes are so expensive is that they require a rather more sophisticated optical construction as soon as the focal length is less than the flange distance. Given that Sony's is below 20mm it would suggest that they could release very sharp and inexpensive Double Gauss type lenses down to 20mm whereas the likes of Nikon or Canon have to build reverse telefocus constructions to achieve the same effect (the SLR flange distances are typically around 40mm, hence the cheap and sharp 50mm primes but no cheap and sharp 35mm primes). The latter are much more expensive.

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AmaturFotografer
By AmaturFotografer (Feb 9, 2012)

Sony makes electronic stuff, not optic. Buy a Sony camera, fit it with 3rd party lenses. Problem solved.

I do agree, Sony lenses are crap. But their NEXs are sexy.

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IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Feb 9, 2012)

Stop whining about the lenses, you can use any alpha mount lens via one of two adapters and you get PDAF, something you'll never get from MFT

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Vlad S
By Vlad S (Feb 9, 2012)

What is the point of getting a NEX body if you have to use Alpha lenses?

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IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Feb 9, 2012)

The point is you don't have to use alpha mount lenses, but you can if you want, and it's still smaller and lighter than an SLR

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amblepath
By amblepath (Feb 9, 2012)

I think that picture of the whole stable of 4/3 lenses with the Om-D made the nex system seem pretty sparce. This announcement is I think a 'don't jump ship they are coming' type of announcement.

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MikeNeufeld30
By MikeNeufeld30 (Feb 9, 2012)

I think you nailed it. MFT lens array far exceeds that of the NEX. Just on what M43 has to NEx has me contemplating the purchase of the OMD

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dmanthree
By dmanthree (Feb 9, 2012)

Too late for me. I truly love the NEX bodies and sensors, but the lens selection is paltry, and will remain so for quite a while. Damned shame. If only I could have the m4/3 lens selection on those NEX bodies.

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bigjay
By bigjay (Feb 9, 2012)

the m43 lens look comprehensive but alot of them are just updates to previous. And duplicates across brands. how many 14-42 lens does anyone need?. There are really only 3 gaps with NEX compared with m43 - a super wide zoom eg 12-24, a long tele zoom eg 100-300 and a G lens to compare against the new oly 12-50. All of these seem to be on the new roadmap.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Feb 9, 2012)

The Olympus m4/3 stable picture has a lot of duplicate lenses that are only different by color. SONY do not consider different color as different lenses.

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Vlad S
By Vlad S (Feb 9, 2012)

@bigjay, Peiasdf: In the early µ4/3 days people were begging for fast primes. Now the system has a great line up of small, optically excellent lenses. Samsung started making those kinds of lenses from the get go. Sony has real trouble filling out this niche, although this is exactly the kind of lenses that the most passionate users demand.

Even the "duplicates" in the µ4/3 have important differences: Oly's lenses are small but rely on IBIS that does not work in video in the PEN line. Panasonic lenses are better for video, but also bigger. So the duplicates do serve different users.

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sglewis
By sglewis (Feb 9, 2012)

Olympus has a 12-50, 75-300, 12mm, 45mm, 17mm, 14-150mm, 14-42mm, 40-150mm, 9-18mm lens, plus the announced 75mm and 60mm. That's six distinct zooms plus 5 distinct primes. Not counting versions (older versus newer 14-42 and 40-150).

Panasonic has a 12.5mm, 45-200, 45mm, 25mm, 20mm, 14mm, 8mm, 100-300mm, 14-45mm, 14-42mm pancake zoom, 7-14mm, 14-140mm, 45-175mm, 7.5mm fisheye.

There's "some" overlap here, but then is that really a negative, or just a sign of a mature market? I have a Canon 7D and 5DMK-II. How many 70-300 choices do I have? 70-200 choices? 50mm choices? Vlad S gives a good reason for some of the overlap (but as you see, there's not that much) - but even without the video answer, who cares - lens manufacturers overlap each other. Price, performance, size and build quality let the market sort it out.

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vlad2304
By vlad2304 (Feb 9, 2012)

Precise timing and a lot of details - thank you, Sony!

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Feb 9, 2012)

That wouldn't so much be a roadmap as a product announcement.

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Stik
By Stik (Feb 18, 2012)

We need a high-end fast prime Wide Angle Lens.

Nex-7 is an awesome camera -- hands down. We can use the best and fastest (normal and telephoto) lens via adapters. But there are no options for Super-wide nor Wide angle! I read that even the 35mm Leica Summicron has color cast issues. Not acceptable.

Zeiss 24mm is a normal lens. We need fast wide / super-side lens NOW!!!

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SASDALLAS
By SASDALLAS (Feb 9, 2012)

Black, hopefully.....

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MikeNeufeld30
By MikeNeufeld30 (Feb 9, 2012)

laughing.....

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smallcams
By smallcams (Feb 9, 2012)

Great. Two years to go. That's what I call responsive!

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