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Fujifilm firmware attempts to fix X10 white discs

By dpreview staff on Feb 9, 2012 at 19:00 GMT

Fujifilm has released the promised firmware update for its X10 enthusiast compact that aims to reduce the 'white orb' blooming effect that users have complained about. The firmware claims only to reduce, not eliminate, the problem that we'll look at in our forthcoming review. The latest firmware adds a series of extra functions and improves behavior of some existing ones. This includes adding face tracking AF to both stills and video mode and preventing the ISO and dynamic range settings changing when you switch between exposure modes. The update also enables the RAW button to be reconfigured as a function button.


Firmware details:

The firmware update Ver.1.03 incorporates the following issues:

  • 1.New function for "RAW" button can be applied by customer's preference
    By holding down RAW button for approx. 2 second or more, RAW button can be applied into new function similar to "Fn" button setting.
  • 2.Each value set on ISO sensitivity and Dynamic range can be maintained even if aperture setting mode (P / A / S / M) is changed.
  • 3.Face detection function is upgraded to keep tracking face by means of face-tracking AF function. As this function is activated even in movie recording mode, AF on detected face in the movie becomes more effective.
  • 4.Blooming (White disk) phenomena, which can be observed in EXR AUTO mode, is reduced.
  • 5.Compatibility on Mac OS 10.7
    When the camera is connected to Mac PC on Mac OS 10.7, the camera is effectively recognized. Additionally, compatibility on RAW FILE CONVERTER EX with Mac OS 10.7 has been confirmed.
  • 6.AF confirmation sound was controlled on "SHUTTER VOLUME" in the SET-UP menu. By this update, this sound is controlled on "OPERATION VOL." in the SET-UP menu, just similar to another functions.
  • 7.The image area with high brightness might be recorded as "black-out" area, just in case of dedicated shooting condition, This unpleasant phenomenon is improved.
  • 8.When the flash is used under macro shooting condition, light-reflected area was shown in greenish. This unpleasant phenomenon is improved.

Comments

Total comments: 264
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joyclick
By joyclick (Feb 10, 2012)

Why should Fuji experiment with EXR at our costs?

3 upvotes
Greynerd
By Greynerd (Feb 10, 2012)

These sort of problems seem almost inevitable given the complexity of the sensor system. The EXR system is looking like a solution for a past problem and is effectively a low light panic mode which turns your camera into a cell phone. I think the real solution is for Fuji to drop EXR. It is interesting when you read the Fuji forum how the non EXR S100fs seems to be the camera to shine through.
I hope that Fuji will drop EXR and that it makes lives a lot less stressful for everyone or at least give it as an option. Hopefully their X-Trans will be a success and rolled out instead of the EXR. You have to give Fuji points for trying.

1 upvote
evogt500
By evogt500 (Feb 10, 2012)

F70exr, F200exr snd S200exr had no problems. They were superb cameras. Albeit, they were all SuperCCDs.

1 upvote
Alfie Smith
By Alfie Smith (Feb 10, 2012)

But MOS are Super-Cheap....

0 upvotes
matt k
By matt k (Feb 10, 2012)

Over 1500 images and only 1 white orb. Not really an issue for me.

3 upvotes
Van du Nord
By Van du Nord (Feb 10, 2012)

The upgrade is a good improvement, you can do it easily.
The iso setting stays the same when changing a mode. The raw button has an added function. I did not test the other imrovements, hopely they are ok also.

0 upvotes
Calvin Chann
By Calvin Chann (Feb 10, 2012)

I'm just happy that I can now update the firmware using the memory card, just like any other camera out there.

As far as the white disks, I have not noticed this problem.

0 upvotes
ktzuguttenberg
By ktzuguttenberg (Feb 10, 2012)

I'm German - sry for my bad englisch

No! I'm not a fanboy because I own other cameras
I can only speak from my experience
in terms of my relationship ORBS 5:2456 "old Firmeware 1.02"

will test the first time today with the new firmware 1.03

0 upvotes
snake_b
By snake_b (Feb 10, 2012)

Idiots. If Fuji has acknowledged them, the fanboys can't claim the problem doesn't exist anymore.

Then there's the type II fanboy/employee that acknowledges them, gives a minimal count of them them compared to ok pics in their type of shooting, then says the orbs don't exist, despite saying they did.

2 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

I was also wondering about that, actually. The manufacturer acknowledged the issue and then released a partial fix to it. No complete fix can be delivered short of swapping out the camera's sensor for a good one.

But most of the folks who actually bought and use the Fujifilm X10 camera apparently never saw anything worth to report. I guess one might call that phenomenon a perfect match of a camera to the particular shooter.

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Björn Magnusson
By Björn Magnusson (Feb 10, 2012)

I wonder when Dpreview:s review of the X10 will be up?

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Piet Maartens
By Piet Maartens (Feb 10, 2012)

Me too! If only I knew whom to believe! Are the negative comments about this camera from people who work for Fuji’s competitors or the positive comments from Fuji employees, as some people suggest? I am not prepared to spend all that money to find out myself, can’t wait to get the DP review!

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

Why don't you look at the dozens/hundreds of photos parked online that show the white orbs/white discs instead, then? You would believe you own pair of eyes, wouldn't you?

If you don't mind these orbs -- the Fuji X10 is definitely for you.

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Silent Oracle
By Silent Oracle (Feb 10, 2012)

Me too! Their reviews are always excellent.

1 upvote
OneGuy
By OneGuy (Feb 10, 2012)

dpr is on their 4th X10 sample.

Give these guys a break :-)

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Piet Maartens
By Piet Maartens (Feb 11, 2012)

Francis, thanks for your valued advice, this would never have occurred to me ;-). The ‘orbs’ pictures I have seen indeed look pretty bad; the question is how representative they are. Arguably I could find occasional flaws in pictures taken by the best cameras and selectively post these on the Internet, giving a biased impression (I don’t say this was deliberately done here).
The fact that some people report regular occurrences of the white disc problem and others none at all suggests to me that it may be a question of a few batches of faulty sensors. In this case Fuji should recall these cameras and replace the sensors free of cost (wishful thinking, I know). Or are the ‘problem-free’ users just not critical enough or never take pictures that are prone to ‘blooming’?
Again, looking forward to DPreview’s verdict.

0 upvotes
Trevor G
By Trevor G (Feb 11, 2012)

The problem occurs when shooting bright, reflective surfaces against the sun. My images look a lot better when I shoot with the sun behind or beside me.

The problem also occurs when shooting long exposures at night with bright lights in view. I don't ever do that, although there are people who want to.

I don't have one white disc which has cropped up unexpectedly, nor do I have any images ruined by white discs. I can produce them when I deliberately try, by shooting in the adverse conditions mentioned.

I have shot 2500 images or more. It is a very satisfying camera to own, the best compact I have ever had.

0 upvotes
SergeyMS
By SergeyMS (Feb 10, 2012)

I never had this white disk effect on my X-10. I don't need in any improvements. I also afraid to do any upgrades if camera works perfect, like my X-10 now. Sometimes after upgrade (not Fuji cameras) I had effect the quality of picture became worse!

2 upvotes
Alfie Smith
By Alfie Smith (Feb 10, 2012)

Your X-10 doesn't work perfect.

0 upvotes
Qoehncas
By Qoehncas (Feb 10, 2012)

This little camera is a jewel, so happy to have it as an alternative to my d700! Guess a lot of the feedback here is either from people who don't own one or who work for the competition! Great job Fuji!

5 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

Yeah, or the ones who took the time out and looked at the messed-up photographs taken by unfortunate X10 owners.

Of course, it could be that the whole white orb/white disc issue and firmware "fix" for the X10 is a simple Fujifilm of Japan PR gimmick? Competition is getting so stiff in the digi-camera field, there is probably nothing these Japanese camera makers won't try now to gain some traction.

0 upvotes
JakeB
By JakeB (Feb 13, 2012)

Ad hominem.

0 upvotes
Realfi
By Realfi (Feb 10, 2012)

C'mon with the review please. I'm seriously looking at this camera and I really want to get an in-depth appraisal based on the firmware update.

2 upvotes
snake_b
By snake_b (Feb 10, 2012)

It's no wonder Fuji doesn't offer dealer demos of their x-series and ignores requests for such.

1 upvote
cprevost
By cprevost (Feb 10, 2012)

Mine's a keeper as well. Very happy with it.

3 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Feb 10, 2012)

Honestly, I can't tell if this new firmware makes a difference. Then again, I couldn't get the white spots in the first place. I'll keep trying. Still, if I did have this white blob problem, and Fuji said they would not be able to completely eliminate it, I would not be stunned if it turned out they were not able to completely eliminate it. Anyway, the X10 won't replace my 5D, or the D700 for night shots but as a small camera to have with me, it's been great so far.

4 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

It seems that some folks ended up with an X10 with the defective CMOS sensor inside. Others did not. Luck of the Irish (or in this case the Japanese QC), I guess.

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Trevor G
By Trevor G (Feb 11, 2012)

All X10s can be shot to produce white discs.

Many photographers would never dream of using it in the way that others do, who get troublesome white discs.

As a measure of how it can handle bright highlights I can shoot into bright stage lights and workshop lights and not get a problem.

If I want to, I can shoot into the sun at a highly reflective surface and get white discs, but I usually don't want to.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

Original in Japanese. Badd Inglowski trannslaytion.

"MADE IN JAPAN?" Again?

"if Fuji had some ethics, they would recall the X10 and replace the faulty sensors."

Exactly right. And while they're at it, they should recall its sister camera, the X-S1 as well. Same defective sensor, same unfixable problem.

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shutterbobby
By shutterbobby (Feb 10, 2012)

The new FW update does Not resolve the Orb issue sadly,from my tests in DR400 mode M size ,some if you orbs have a star like effect now, if you are lucky, otherwise no change at ISO 100,same as before the FW..if Fuji had some ethics, they would recall the X10 and replace the faulty sensors....but I don't hold my breath on that one

2 upvotes
Jim in AZ
By Jim in AZ (Feb 10, 2012)

Will these "orbs" start to influence the price of the camera soon?

3 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

I am waiting for the price to drop on the X-S1 from US$800 to under $600.

Meanwhile retail price on the X-S1 in Hungary will be the equivalent of US$1,600. I kid you not.

GO, EUROPE!!!!

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Summit_pg
By Summit_pg (Feb 10, 2012)

I'm sooooo happy I sold my X10. Well over a month ago users already knew that the update would not be able to fix the issue. People need to realize that Fuji DOES NOT CARE about this camera or those who bought it. Sell yours while you can still get a decent return and buy a camera from a better company. I'll never buy another Fuji again.

10 upvotes
Jink
By Jink (Feb 10, 2012)

Why would you be happy about selling a faulty camera to someone else? I hope you at least warned them first.

2 upvotes
snake_b
By snake_b (Feb 10, 2012)

Why would anyone need to warn anyone? According to the fanboys and (likely) fuji people on the forum claiming there's no problem, there should be no worry. It's worse than the Samsung forum, where confirmed Samsung people are not declaring their affiliations, pretending to be everyday users, then when complaints come, they claim the problems don't exist and tell everyone it's operator error and there's no reason to ask for Samsung to fix anything.

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Summit_pg
By Summit_pg (Feb 10, 2012)

That was exactly my issue. I tried to return it but was outside of he return period. I tried to get it fixed under warranty and was told that the camera is fine and within spec. So did I sell a broken camera to someone else? No! I re-sold the exact same thing that Fuji sold me!

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Feb 10, 2012)

this is SO TRUE

because fuji doesnt care about costomers of the x- series at all.

i wonder why they made the raw button programable now, it was the very first complain about the x100, long before it was on the market, and a fuji guy even said that it seems a strong demand that the raw button is programmable, but at least to the point where i sold the x100, it wasnt possible even after two updates.

i hate it so much that they really make nice cameras but cant there software and GUI right, they need some guys that are actual photographers, it seems they have great designers and great visions but lack everything else to make great cameras.

thats also why iam so much not excited about their new leicalike camera

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (Feb 15, 2012)

Hysteria, what hysteria...

I've had an orb show up about twice in the three months (and 1,000 exposures) I've had the camera. You people really need to get a life...

0 upvotes
bismojo
By bismojo (Feb 10, 2012)

installed the v1.03, thanks fuji i hope the support continues because i want to keep this camera for a long time!

loving my X10, been using it every day since i bought it. nothing is perfect but this underdog is special in my opinion (no need to explain the technical aspects) it just help me capture..

right now i'm using it for my travel in japan and i don't think i can get the some shots with my canon G and FX nikon, mostly because of the lens vs. size compromise! manual zooming (and yes, same as nikon direction) is pleasure to use. i also glad i bring this instead of my wife's DX nikon + 18-200vr lens.. im using bicycle/walking/public transport and X10's small size matters.

baby shots are also nice, it's near silent.

so, anyway, feel sorry for other guys that have orbs issues, for me and my usage, this camera is special!

7 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

So, let me just see if we follow you correctly here, bismojo.

The camera is problematic -- but that's all right because "nothing is perfect?"

A FUJIFILM camera is "underdog" status? WHY exactly that is, I wonder?

And finally, you will keep your Fujifilm X10 -- becauser there is nothing else out there that would work in its place?

Right... I thought that's what you had said.

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CrazyCanuk
By CrazyCanuk (Feb 10, 2012)

If you are going to restate someone's post at least demonstrate some intelligence by reading it first.

Its not hard... try it:

He likes the camera, intends on keeping it for a long time and hopes Fuji will maintain support by releasing future firmware updates. That's about it...

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

@ Crazy: Hablo Ingles, Senior?

I did not "restate" anything, Dude. I provided direct verbatim quotes from the comment instead, Mate. See the difference?

I can see why someone would want to keep a good camera. The X10 clearly isn't. It's rather messed up, Man. I guess you'll be uploading firmware updates onto it every 60 days until Doomsday and/or Kingdom Come. :~))

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Feb 10, 2012)

buy a ricoh gxr200 if you need a fuji x10 and if you need a viewfinder, buy an ovf for 24mm equ and learn how to guess where the other focal width are

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John_I
By John_I (Feb 10, 2012)

BIG disappointment! It was clearly not an EXR issue (c'mon Fujifilm, let's get real.) but a widespread one across all modes. Great pics but NOT in the conditions I know to be the case. Here is what it can do. http://jbipix.com/?s=fuji I don't post pics of stuff that does not work. But .... Fujifilm, FIX it or admit that you're just a second class wannabee.

Comment edited 44 seconds after posting
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aeneon
By aeneon (Feb 10, 2012)

It would leave a better taste in my mouth if they just admitted it . I'm returning mine tomorrow as i only had it two days.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (Feb 15, 2012)

You are seriously returning it after two days? Have you actually used it?

It's actually a great camera. I tested it versus a G12 in store and went for the Fuji. After three months I sold my old TZ-10 because I was so happy with the output. I've had orbs about twice (2 times) in 1000 exposures.

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Digitall
By Digitall (Feb 10, 2012)

This seems to be a hardware problem, not a firmware problem. Fuji It is time to think in version II of this model?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

If they mail everyone the new CMOS sensor, do you think the users can replace it at home within say 30 to 45 minutes? :-))

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Digitall
By Digitall (Feb 10, 2012)

Don't think so..., maybe 60 minutes? :-)

Anyway, a recall will be a nice start move from Fuji to "clean" some fame that this camera is having for many people. It is a pity that this camera is a little preciousness, and this defect is not permissible on any camera from any brand, much less in X line from Fuji and for this price. imo.

edit: Waiting for full review here on DP a long time ago.

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rusticus
By rusticus (Feb 9, 2012)

the X10 is a awesome Fotocam:

ORBS standing today 5:2345

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evogt500
By evogt500 (Feb 9, 2012)

When I read the Headline "attempts", I knew Fuji had failed. No need to read the rest.

Comment edited 60 seconds after posting
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rusticus
By rusticus (Feb 9, 2012)

no!!!
the EXR-Sensor is awesome ;)

1 upvote
Rob Klein
By Rob Klein (Feb 9, 2012)

Maybe I am just lucky or not paying attention, but I have not encountered the orb situation and the new firmware is great for the other things it adds or fixes. The complaining about the X10 is just way overboard. It is not an M9 and yet it really does a nice job. I have shot sports with it and concerts and everyday stuff as well and I am more than satisfied. It is better than my G9 and a lot more fun to use. None of these point and shoots are perfect as they all have their little quirks. If you don't want the camera, don't buy it.

5 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Feb 9, 2012)

Well the Fuji has a much better sensor with fewer pixels and a
faster lens than the Canon G9 (at that point Canon was stupidly engaging in the pixel race).

The Fuji should be a good bet better than the M9 above ISO 1000.

Have you tried to create the orbs problem with the Fuji?

Comment edited 31 seconds after posting
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bettablues
By bettablues (Feb 10, 2012)

I total agree with you Rob Klein

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Richard Koh
By Richard Koh (Feb 10, 2012)

I am very happy with the Fuji X10 too, very classic and portable. No problem shooting high quality photos, day or night. Here is a night shot taken before the firmware upgrade:
http://richardkoh.smugmug.com/Landscapes/Singapore-Landscapes/20660740_L9RxQM#!i=1679091024&k=72Bsw5M&lb=1&s=L

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Dennis
By Dennis (Feb 9, 2012)

Good to see this firmware update, which for many potential X10 buyers (and current users) have been awaited for quite some time.

Now DPReview can move on and finish the equally long awaited review (seen somewhere that has been almost ready for some time), which can shed some balanced views on the camera as such and not just the orbs/WDS which have dominated so far.

It would be a good opportunity for DPReview to have some dialogue with Fujifilm for more clarification on the sensor and firmware. And Fujifilm could certainly benefit from a little openess at this point...

7 upvotes
Optimal Prime
By Optimal Prime (Feb 9, 2012)

From DP Review to D Preview indeed...

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

Way too many thing to fix and patch-up already in such a newly released camera. It doesn't bode well for their X-S1 26x range superzoom-cam, quite frankly.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Feb 10, 2012)

@optimal prime, you know that i thought that was the original name for years, then i figured out what it actually stand for hehe

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John McCormack
By John McCormack (Feb 9, 2012)

Early adopters are my friends - they find the bugs and get the FW updated when necessary so the rest of us can avoid the heartache associated with the "bugs."

3 upvotes
morganb
By morganb (Feb 9, 2012)

I'm really glad to see they are putting out firmware updates for these camera's. i kinda feel like its a bit blown out of proportion but i too would be upset if i spend $600 on a camera and it was screwing up photo's.

Nevertheless, lets just hope they fix all these issues and dont end up with stuff like this in the X-pro 1

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David Clarke29
By David Clarke29 (Feb 9, 2012)

Whatever, I shall keep the X10 - HOWEVER I find it totally beyond belief that a company the size of Fuji could let a sensor design fault as portayed by the X10 pass acceptance by their quality assurance department.

The whole thing smells of commercial expediency and marketing pressure. This particular camera suits my shooting requirements but personally I will never again believe the marketing hype issued by Fuji or/and their accolytes again. Needless to say, further Fuji purchase is a no no.

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techmine
By techmine (Feb 9, 2012)

Whatever, it is still an excellent "Point and Shoot" camera.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Feb 9, 2012)

techmine:

Not if the orbs are still there, it isn't an excellent P&S and it's more expensive than a Canon S95 or Panasonic LX5.

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rusticus
By rusticus (Feb 9, 2012)

Whatever, it is still an excellent "Point and Shoot" camera.

Yes!!!!!!!

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techmine
By techmine (Feb 10, 2012)

HowaboutRAW: I am speaking based on my experience as an "owner" of the camera. I bought it within days and it gave me the wow factor. I don't have ORB in any of my shots (may be I am not nitpicking them with a magnifier glass). That could be because the type of photos I take. People have gripes about S95 and LX5 too; especially with Video.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

If the X10 is an "excellent camera," I eat my excellent straw hat.

Okay, so you did not know the problems when you bought it... but please, stop being a Fujifilm apologist now. Now that you know.

And what to make of the bold logo emblazed on all Fuji cameras: "MADE IN JAPAN." So what? Is that supposed to have some sort of POSITIVE connotation with anyone any more?

Finally, since the X-S1 shares the same exact sensor with the X10, how come there is no fix announced for that new model of theirs?

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CrazyCanuk
By CrazyCanuk (Feb 10, 2012)

The folks who have recently purchased the X-S1 and posted in FF have NOT reported an ORB issue -- please get your facts straight.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

@ Crazy: That is hard to believe.

White orbing is a SENSOR ISSUE. 100% hardware related.

X10 and X-S1 have the same exact sensor, even according to Fuji.

One is bad. The other isn't bad? How can that be?

Also, all the VIDEO CLIPS out of the X-S1 are outrageously bad -- the camera cannot autofocus past about 100-150mm. So, the 624mm super-tele zoom range is a myth. Unless you don't care whether your images are in focus or OOF.

When a camera takes 1-2 seconds to "hunt" for focus in video when you twist the zoom ring, you might as well toss the whole clip, see?

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techmine
By techmine (Feb 10, 2012)

Francis Carver: eat whatevery **** you like. don't comment on equipment that you DON'T OWN.

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tinpusher
By tinpusher (Feb 9, 2012)

I have neither taken night shots or been exposed to strong sunlight but my initial attempts to create orbs using artificial light using P mode has really failed since upgrading.
At least I haven't been able to get those ugly sharp edged horrors that look so unnatural....so perhaps the firmware has helped a little to bring the camera into line with its competitors.

The X10 remains a superb camera but if you like shooting at night or shooting shiny cars by day still give it a miss until the X11 ( which I bet has a bayer sensor)

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Ernest M Aquilio
By Ernest M Aquilio (Feb 9, 2012)

Just how impactful is the "white orb" effect in real world shooting? I am on the fence about this camera and cannot imagine that this can totally ruin a photo. Any examples of this that caused the photo to be totally unusable?

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Rmano
By Rmano (Feb 10, 2012)

I have seen (posted here) a photo of a saxophone where all the tiny light reflexes on the keys where transformed in white disk. And another one with a Christmas three that seemed a photo with holes punched thru it. I think it's so bad that Fuji should think in a hardware upgrade campaign.

There is a car photo here http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1012&message=40013992&changemode=1

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Ithackermike
By Ithackermike (Feb 10, 2012)

I was on the fence too. I back ordered the X10 for my wife for Christmas. Then this WDS issue surfaced before it shipped. So I went to the X10 group on Flickr and looked through 100s of photos. All of them looking like the very type of photos my wife is likely to take. I may have found 2 photos per 100 where this issue was discernible. Maybe. And then only because I was looking for it. Needless to say she loves the X10.
We just returned from Legoland with some great photos of the kids. I've yet to produce an Orb, even on Christmas day with the lights in the background.

Is it reproducible? Yes.
Is it prevelant in the 1500 photos we've taken in the last 7weeks? No.
Is there another P&S with a sensor this large with a lens this good? Not in my opinion.

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timo
By timo (Feb 10, 2012)

It is a real issue affecting specular highlights in certain situations. My experience is that you can minimize it, but sometimes not eliminate it. BUT ... the camera has many other virtues which, for me, outweigh this one deficiency.

The 'orbs' are often not very obvious, and I am sure that if they had not been sensitized to the issue, many of those complaining would not have noticed them. They can be extremely obvious, but in my experience mainly in shots that require negative EV anyway to preserve highlights, and so careful metering can help a lot. Upping ISO helps too (as has been suggested), but you have to raise it quite a lot to make any appreciable difference.

'Unusable' photos? A few but not many.

Would I buy the camera again? Yes.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

Looks like that over there in Nipponland, they run off some good batches of X10 sensor. And some not so good ones. Time will tell on the X-S1, but the sensor is the same as in the X10.

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Pasha001
By Pasha001 (Feb 10, 2012)

> Any examples of this that caused the photo to be totally unusable?
Any dark night city shot at ISO 100 on tripod if there are some bright light sources : http://fotkidepo.ru/?id=photo:734437
This is a shot after the firmware update (and not made by me).

Comment edited 41 seconds after posting
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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

Exactly right, Pasha001. Thanks for finding this one for the rest of us. This photo was taken w. X10 on February 9, 2012 WITH the v.1.03 firmware update installed.

For those who don't even see a problem with this photo -- the Fujifilm X10 is your camera, no doubt, For others -- stay the heck away!

Just goes to show you that when you have a DEFECTIVE SENSOR in a camera, no amount of "firmware fix" will fix it. Say, your car's engine blew up. Will a fancy paint job fix that?

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edgar83
By edgar83 (Feb 9, 2012)

So a lot of people will take another camera or will wait for X-11 .... Amen.

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AntonImagescom
By AntonImagescom (Feb 9, 2012)

Just updated the firmware1.03 working just fine, so far...

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Ol Iver S
By Ol Iver S (Feb 9, 2012)

well written, the new firmware "attempts" to fix it... ;) it´s a shame that this wonderful piece of technique has such a serious design flaw! maybe i´ll keep it even though, it is capable of taking wonderful pictures and really nice to use. time will tell!

p.s.: no difference before & after worth mentioning over here, at least concerning wds.

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2 upvotes
Potemkin_Photo
By Potemkin_Photo (Feb 9, 2012)

Glad as hell I didn't buy this cam out of the door. Despite all the hoo-hah and good reviews, it had a crippling design flaw. Unless they slash the price to about $199, it ain't worth it. Wait for the X11 indeed.

5 upvotes
Coguar
By Coguar (Feb 9, 2012)

X10 is great cam, and this firmware make it even better. I hope that DP review will based on X10 positive aspects in review, because there is no perfect cam or lens for all conditions of shooting. This CAM is great, and many manufacturers must make better cam for us after X10 if they like to success in this category of cams. sry for bad english....

3 upvotes
abortabort
By abortabort (Feb 10, 2012)

RAW button customizable - this gives hope to the X100 getting the same!!! Improved AF as well :) Come on X100 update!

0 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 10, 2012)

I am glad the AF got "improved," because it is pretty horrendous in the X10's sister-cam, the X-S1.

0 upvotes
Ol Iver S
By Ol Iver S (Feb 10, 2012)

better af?! i haven´t sensed any difference regarding that one... which is okay to me, af was already fast and reasonably reliable before the update, at least for a compact!

0 upvotes
frank2001
By frank2001 (Feb 10, 2012)

When I follow the link I get to Fuji's site but it only has version 1.2.
What am I doing wrong?

0 upvotes
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