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Sigma DP series reinvented as DP1M and DP2M with 15MPx3 sensor from SD1

By dpreview staff on Feb 8, 2012 at 07:00 GMT

Sigma has totally reinvented its DP series of large sensor compacts with the DP1 Merrill  and DP2 Merrill. The DP Merrill models are named after Dick Merrill, inventor of the Foveon sensor and include the most recent version of the technology - the 15x3MP APS-C sensor first seen in Sigma's SD1. Because the Merrill cameras feature full APS-C sensors, they also feature totally redesigned lenses, with the DP1M including a 19mm F2.8 lens to offer a 28mm equivalent field of view and the DP2M having a 30mm F2.8 lens to give a 45mm equivalent field-of-view.

Both camera's lenses (which may sound familiar in the light of the company's Digital Neo announcements) include Sigma's Fluorite-like 'FLD' glass elements. They also both include substantially redesigned bodies that incorporate high-resolution 920k dot LCDs. The controls have also been updated and the cameras look smarter as a result. Having been first-to-market with a large sensor, prime lens compact, it must have been hard for Sigma to watch the success of Fujifilm's X100. We haven't had a chance to see the Merrills in-person yet but we hold out hope that the high-res sensor and updates will make the DP series competitive again. There is also no detail on pricing yet.

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Press Release:

Sigma Corporation announces next-generation compact cameras named in honor of Foveon innovator

DP1 Merrill and DP2 Merrill now incorporate 46-megapixel, full-color image sensor

Ronkonkoma, NY, Feb. 8, 2012 – Sigma Corporation of America (www.sigmaphoto.com), a leading researcher, developer, manufacturer and service provider for some of the world's most impressive lines of lenses, cameras and flashes, today announced the new Merrill series of digital cameras with the introduction of the DP1 Merrill and DP2 Merrill. The Merrill series is named in honor of Richard “Dick” Merrill, the co-creator of the Foveon X3 Direct Image Sensor technology that powers Sigma’s unique lineup of cameras.

These upgraded, high resolution, fixed lens compact digital cameras now incorporate the same APS-C sized 46-megapixel X3 image sensor found in the company’s flagship SD1 SLR, now also known as the Sigma SD1 Merrill. This name change not only pays homage to Merrill, but it also reflects new production efficiencies that will result in a substantial reduction in the camera’s market price starting next month.

Merrill (1949-2008) was a brilliant engineer, talented photographer and Foveon co-founder. He tapped into his passion for electronics to build an innovative pixel structure that uniquely demonstrated the ability to capture RGB information in each pixel location. This revolutionary discovery led the Foveon team to the development of the X3 Direct Image Sensor and, ultimately, to the creation of some of the most vibrantly colored and detailed imagery the photography industry has ever seen. Sigma acquired Foveon in late 2008.

“This revolutionary image capture system reflects both the artistic and technological sides of Merrill’s personality,” said Kazuto Yamaki, CEO of Sigma Corporation. “As an expression of Sigma’s passion for photography and in honor of Dick Merrill’s genius, we have named the latest generation of the Foveon X3 Direct Image Sensor the Foveon Merrill.”

The Sigma DP1 Merrill and DP2 Merrill each boast exclusively-designed, high-performance telecentric fixed lenses. The DP1 Merrill features a wide, 19mm F2.8 lens, which is the equivalent to a 28mm lens on a 35mm SLR camera. The DP2 Merrill, however, offers a 30mm F2.8 lens, which is the equivalent to a 45mm lens on a 35mm camera. Both cameras are compact and lightweight, and feature Sigma’s own “F” Low Dispersion (FLD) glass, which performs like fluorite glass and significantly improves lens performance, as well as Super Multi Layer Coating to reduce flare and ghosting. With the 46-megapixel, full-color Foveon X3 Direct Image Sensor, the new DP cameras capture all primary RGB colors at each pixel location with three layers, which results in incredibly detailed images with a three-dimensional feel.

The Sigma DP Merrill cameras also include the following features:

  • A dual, three-layer responsive ultimate (TRUE II) engine now incorporates two TRUE II processors to improve the processing speed and overall quality of the final image. Sigma’s unique image-processing algorithm also provides high-resolution power and reproduces high-definition images with richly graduated tones that offer a three-dimensional feel.
  • RAW and JPEG format recording retains the full image detail of the utmost quality captured through the direct image sensor, as well as a JPEG recording format for convenience. The RAW data format provides pure data for high-resolution images, and uses lossless compression for more compact, yet uncompromised, data files. The RAW data format of the DP Merrill series keep brightness and color data in a 1:1 ratio without relying on interpolation. When the image is processed in Sigma Photo Pro, it will preserve the balance of the natural data for the best photos with the best image quality.
  • Sigma Photo Pro processing software converts RAW data quickly and easily. It incorporates functions such as a loupe, exposure picker, print, JPEG conversion, and batch white balance settings.
  • Manual focus is available for use when autofocus or focus-lock is not desired.
  • An advanced user interface is complete with a custom Quick Set (QS) menu and the metallic command dial to improve usability. The diaphragm, shutter speed and menu can be changed quickly using the command dial. The QS menu consists of the most commonly used functions and can be easily displayed by pressing the QS button, allowing photographers to change the menu content and the order depending on preferences.
  • A large, highly visible three-inch TFT color LCD monitor ensures great visibility even outdoors in the daytime. This approximately 920,000 pixel resolution LCD monitor benefits from a wide viewing angle, making it easy to capture details and check focusing and composition.
  • A hot shoe allows the use of the dedicated external flashgun EF-140 DG (optional) as well as Sigma electronic flashguns for SD series such as EF-610 DG Super (optional) and EF-610 DG ST (optional).
  • Movie mode enables movie recording with VGA (640×480) size, with 30 shooting frames per second.

Pricing and availability of the Sigma DP1 Merrill and DP2 Merrill are pending.

To locate an authorized Sigma dealer nearest to you, visit www.sigmaphoto.com/where/where.asp. For information about Sigma Corporation of America, visit www.sigmaphoto.com.

Sigma DP1 Merrill and DP2 Merrill specifications

 Sigma DP1 MerrillSigma DP2 Merrill
Body type
Body typeLarge sensor compact
Sensor
Effective pixels15 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors46 megapixels
Sensor sizeAPS-C (24 x 16 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS (Foveon X3)
ProcessorDual TRUE II engine
Image
Image stabilizationNoUnknown
Uncompressed formatRAW
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)50 mm
Optical zoom1×
Maximum apertureF2.8
Digital zoomNo
Manual focusYes
Focal length multiplier1.5×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen dots920,000
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
External flashYes (via hot-shoe)
Videography features
FormatMotion JPEG
Videography notes640 x 480 (30 fps)
MicrophoneMono
SpeakerMono
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
Physical
BatteryBattery Pack
Weight (inc. batteries)330 g (0.73 lb / 11.64 oz)
Dimensions122 x 67 x 64 mm (4.8 x 2.64 x 2.52)122 x 67 x 59 mm (4.8 x 2.64 x 2.32)
Other features
GPSNone

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Comments

Total comments: 243
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Auke B van der Weide
By Auke B van der Weide (Feb 8, 2012)

excellent!!!!
reminds me of my favourite walkaround camera in the filmdays, the Olympus Mju. Great lens, big sensor, and a point and shoot button, what more do you need

2 upvotes
Superka
By Superka (Feb 8, 2012)

fast lens would be nice. 2.8 is not fast for a prime.

0 upvotes
Auke B van der Weide
By Auke B van der Weide (Feb 8, 2012)

always a compromis between size, costs and maximum aperture.... Olumpus MjuII had a 35/2.8 lens (fullframe!) with a very nice and handy plastic cover, sturdy enough

0 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

what more do you need?...An interchangable lensmount!

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
1 upvote
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Feb 8, 2012)

@dacamerguy, but you do know that this is not the point with this camer?^^

1 upvote
sfa1966
By sfa1966 (Feb 8, 2012)

Very nice indeed. My beloved DP1 is beginning to show its age at 30,000 shots, and the DP1M will be a logical replacement.

0 upvotes
flymodel
By flymodel (Feb 8, 2012)

No IS, no flash, no tilting LCD and ugly - it won't sell regardless of price.
Sigma has a great sensors and tons of lenses but they should fire their designers and marketing analysts; what a wasted potential for how many years now? :(

3 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

No flash!!!...Expect the DPM's to be bright daylight use only cameras in that case!

1 upvote
Anton Marcu
By Anton Marcu (Feb 8, 2012)

yea its ugly, need moar fake professional viewfinder hump and professional logos and leather, here I fixed it

www.dpreview.com/galleries/7338815348/photos/1729746/dp2m

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
6 upvotes
spalbird
By spalbird (Feb 9, 2012)

@DaSigmaGuy What were running over your liver recently? you will always find a reason against SD1(M) and DPxM. It is a large sensor camera which needs light from a flash just like a DSLR for same IQ. This comes in a large package, and contrary to many other compacts it is possible to use your existing flash in many cases by use of the hot shoe socket...

0 upvotes
Dafffid
By Dafffid (Feb 8, 2012)

All that lovely tech inside, and still a cheap body to save a couple of $$. The X100 sold as much on its looks and feel as its guts, how much would it add to the price to put it in a nice box? Sigma are a company I greatly admire, but it seems there's a penny pincher in a grey suit intervening at a crucial stage in all their designs. But good luck to them, I hope it does well enough for them to continue making cameras.

1 upvote
Fotograafje
By Fotograafje (Feb 8, 2012)

The x100 doesn't have a foveon sensor. The price is too high, but that seem to be a sigma-strategy.
I'am a satisfied DP1 user and waited two years after it's release. It will drop with 50% each year.
I think we need companies wich develop special stuff. The Foveon 15Mp*3 sensor produces amazing images (in my opinion it outperformes the bayer-sensor).
About this camera: manual focus is a plus. The sensor is a sensational improvement. The viewfinder should be a standard accescoiry.

0 upvotes
whtchocla7e
By whtchocla7e (Feb 8, 2012)

Great

Comment edited 6 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
ecka84
By ecka84 (Feb 8, 2012)

If only they had made it mirrorless EVIL ... :(

1 upvote
lajka
By lajka (Feb 8, 2012)

Sigma, go for the big time. Make Sigma M-Merrill, m-mount and will see the revolution. Foveon is by nature digital 3-layer color film thus most natural companion for new and especially old leica, canon, nikon RF glass.

Comment edited 53 seconds after posting
1 upvote
Fhoton
By Fhoton (Feb 9, 2012)

Yes, a DP-Merrill - m mount, it might be hard for a lens company (Sigma) to swallow but it would create a large number of Foveon converts and a large backlog of camera orders.

0 upvotes
Faron kee
By Faron kee (Feb 16, 2012)

I love the news from Sigma. I just wish I could come to these boards and not see so much Arguing. For many years these types of boards put me off wanting to learn. I'm just happy that sigma have moved on again. All I care about is great looking images. I do not care how I get them. I love this art. Google me....

Comment edited 10 minutes after posting
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slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (Feb 8, 2012)

Interesting to be honest. The optical quality of the previous DP models was very good and now with a new sensor it sounds interesting. I do not see a provision for clip-on EVF what is becoming a standard on this type of cameras. IS would have been nice. Also - nothing for movie makers :)

But what interests me personally most is performance at low ISO - colors and dynamic range. Detail should be very good - curios how it will compare to GXR M-module which has no AA.

Let's see about the price ...

0 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

But with no built in flash and a compulsary slow lens you will be limited to bright daylight use only!

1 upvote
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Feb 8, 2012)

why an evf on a prime lens?^^ buy a decent ovf in the focal length you need.

@dasigmaguy: your posts clearly state that you should shoot more to get a bitmore experienced with photography :)

1 upvote
D Cox
By D Cox (Feb 8, 2012)

Built in flash is really only useful as a fill light in bright sunlight. With a standard hot shoe, these new DP cameras should work fine with studio flash setups or with a hammerhead flash on a bracket.

0 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

@ inevitable crafts studio

I'm a pro photographer and I have years of experience of using Foveon sensors in every type of environment possible, so I think you will find I'm plenty experienced enough!

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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spalbird
By spalbird (Feb 9, 2012)

@DaSigmaGuy who is an engaged amateur photographer who wishes to have the same skills of a pro-photographer w/o equivalent education and experience: This class of camera is not for you, and as you have mentioned in your many replies before, there are many better alternatives for you you recommend though you have never tried. Why do not try those first, then come back and give balanced advise? In the moment you confuse all here with your singular opinion which is less than helpful...

0 upvotes
BobYIL
By BobYIL (Feb 8, 2012)

Most probably over $2K each... That's Sigma..

2 upvotes
jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

There's now no external pressure on Sigma to make prices (SD1 $2300 price indicates something happened behind closed doors to Sigma when SD1 was announced).

$700-$850 each.

0 upvotes
sauchiyong
By sauchiyong (Feb 8, 2012)

Nikon D800 does has a lot to do with SD1 price change. SD1 has to be cheapper than Nikon D800E if they are the same in quality.

0 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

Your forgetting that the old CEO of Sigma who was chiefly responsable for the whole sorry SD1 pricing fiasco is now deceased and his younger, more dynamic son, Kazuto, is now at the helm of the goodship Sigma...This could just as well be the reason for the pricedrop as anything else...

1 upvote
xiod_crlx
By xiod_crlx (Feb 8, 2012)

sounds really good!

sigma, don't mess with the price! =)

0 upvotes
kev777zero
By kev777zero (Feb 8, 2012)

dude, that 30mm 2.8 lens looks exactly the same as the ones they are about to offer to NEX&M4/3

0 upvotes
jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

Hopefully there may be m43 body from Sigma.
If so i would have to jettison my EP1 & Canon 1D ... old i know but i really like their images.

0 upvotes
Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Feb 8, 2012)

the design is very dull...
remind me of the terrible handling of the DP2

2 upvotes
jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

Design is classic Bauhaus.

1 upvote
Grzesiek Maj
By Grzesiek Maj (Feb 8, 2012)

Pentax K-01 is closer to Bauhaus

0 upvotes
jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

K01 is more lego.

7 upvotes
KieranGee
By KieranGee (Feb 8, 2012)

Actually, once you get past the bright colours, the K-01 isn't very Legoesque. Whilst it would be possible to recreate the shape out of the bricks, you'd probably find yourself having to employ some complex techniques to accurately convey the appearance of the camera.

0 upvotes
Roman Korcek
By Roman Korcek (Feb 8, 2012)

@KieranGee: Like, use yellow bricks.

1 upvote
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Feb 8, 2012)

pentax k01 is for sure NO bauhaus hahahaha what are you talking about, gropius would have tried to kill you because of this statement :)

k01 is fisherprize

if anything is bauhaus then its nikons series 1 and leica M

0 upvotes
R Thornton
By R Thornton (Feb 8, 2012)

Regrettably, sigma is all about strong promises and weak perfomance. They are definitely on to somethng here, but who cares...

1 upvote
jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

How so?

You don't care thats you.
There are other who dont care, thats just them.

Many do care.

2 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

I care...I care enough to warn people not to buy a Sigma camera unless they need their head examined!
Seriously folks, there is nothing to see here and without hesitation, you should get the NEX-7 instead.

1 upvote
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Feb 8, 2012)

@dasigmaguy, this is a photography forum no consumer electronics page, so why are you mention sony all the time? so you recently bought it and like it ... well sony will like that too

1 upvote
BobNL
By BobNL (Feb 8, 2012)

@dasigmaguy maybe it is really time to get a new account here under a different name.

1 upvote
spalbird
By spalbird (Feb 9, 2012)

DaSigmaGuy uses a Sigma SD14 camera with no-Sigma old and manual M48 lenses. A DPx does not give him this option, therefore he expects from Sigma an interchangeable M mount for those. I wonder who of all here will share his hobby, for practically all his advise is unuseable, and M mount lenses are not priced as the cheap M48 lenses, they are really expensive and certainly over DaSigmaGuys budget...

0 upvotes
Fotograafje
By Fotograafje (Feb 9, 2012)

@dasigmaguy
Better a nex7???? Well, Sigma significantly more pixels and a better lens. I think the Nex7 is an excellent camera, but uncomparable with the Sigma foveon camera's

0 upvotes
bradleyg5
By bradleyg5 (Feb 8, 2012)

These cameras are SO expensive, the high ISO is terrible and the lens are slow. I mean what are you going to do with it? it's purely an outdoor camera. Like a good tropical vacation camera I guess. I'm not debating the IQ will be amazing, but only at base ISO so you gotta use it in bright light.

I feel like indoors, a Panasonic GX1 with a 20mm F1.8 would be way more capable.

1 upvote
dentaku
By dentaku (Feb 8, 2012)

How do you know they're terrible? Is f/2.8 slow for a 28mm equivalent? These are completely different to the DP1/s/x. Those were slow and expensive and exceptionally good if you used them with thought.

2 upvotes
Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (Feb 8, 2012)

I am a big fan of Pany and their f1.7 20mm. But pleeeease, there is no comparison. Complete different genre. Compare with Fuji X100 if you like.

2 upvotes
sedentary_male
By sedentary_male (Feb 8, 2012)

More like get the Ricoh GXR A16 APS zoom.

1 upvote
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

How do you know they're terrible? Is f/2.8 slow for a 28mm equivalent?

Not really, but if the DPM's had had an interchangable lensmount, as they should have had, this argument would'nt have been possible in the first place...The fact they dont have an interchangable lensmount makes them extremely poor value for money and I would recommend avoiding them like the plague!

1 upvote
noegd
By noegd (Feb 8, 2012)

Interesting, but the lack of a dedicated manual focusing wheel, built-in flash and the larger lens may be seen as a step backwards from the earlier DPs.

My DP1 was a steal when it got discounted at 199€ new. At twice that price it was still a good deal for a high-quality, specialised camera (pocketable landscape camera, ideal for a treck, but NOT a point and shoot!). But that was 2-3y ago.

I somehow suspect Sigma will have a hard time being competitive with the crowd of more recent m4/3, NEX, Fuji X... cameras.

0 upvotes
Johan Borg
By Johan Borg (Feb 8, 2012)

The DP2M including lens is maybe 2mm thicker than a DP2 (and that is before extending the DP2 lens), I just put my DP2 on top of a resized DP2M photo to check. They're near identical in size. The focus wheel has moved from the back to the lens, I think that's a step forward. Looks like they improved handling while making the design even cleaner :)

1 upvote
jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

Manual focus is on the lens barrel.

It will be for those who dont want another interchangeable lens system and want IQ to be a companion to 1DX, D4, 5D3, D800/E, M9 M10, 645D, Leaf, Phase.

2 upvotes
Eigenmeat
By Eigenmeat (Feb 8, 2012)

These looking pretty good! They will be awesome alternative to the lower end mirror-less market! Their lack of any viewfinder option kinda preclude these guys from competing with likes of NEX7/X100/X-Pro 1.

0 upvotes
jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

IQ detail wise NEX7 will come closest.
D800/E,5D3 will be equivalent detail wise.

0 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

"IQ detail wise NEX7 will come closest."

Virtually identical amounts of detail in fact (check out the res tests for the SD1 vs the NEX-7 on Luminous Landscape).

1 upvote
Harold66
By Harold66 (Feb 8, 2012)

it would have been perfect but why on earth did they move from a 41mm to a 45mm FOV ? they maintained the 28mm FOV so why not do the same with the dp2 successor ? :(
any words on a external finder . another minus of changing the FOV . I do not know of any 45mm external finder :(

also they should try to offer the option of a ratio in addition to the 3;2 ratio

Harold

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Feb 8, 2012)

Serious? 41 or 45 mm FOV? The cameras are not out yet ... maybe only on the drawing board, When they arrive, one or two years from now, then there will be lots to complain about. But, 41 or 45 mm FOV is not one of those IMHO. ----- Maybe price? We will see.

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Dafffid
By Dafffid (Feb 8, 2012)

I imagine someone felt the two cameras were differentiated enough and needed more air between them. I agree, I don't like the move to 45, but a move to 43 might have been a good advertising sell - 'the camera that gives you what your eye sees' kind of a thing.

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DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

Roland I seriously dought any further design revisions will be made from now on and my guess is the current deisgn is the final production version...Which is a real shame because these DPM's could have really done with an interchangable lensmount. Also, no built in flash! Both are huge design errors.

1 upvote
--> LSN
By --> LSN (Feb 8, 2012)

Why don't you tell us how you really feel??

Comment edited 12 seconds after posting
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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Feb 8, 2012)

My god, so many news! Sigma has responded to Nikon! Haha.

1 upvote
Klay
By Klay (Feb 8, 2012)

Man.. what a week.

6 upvotes
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Feb 8, 2012)

Man....I feel Canon is going to announce something to.

1 upvote
Jens_G
By Jens_G (Feb 8, 2012)

my wallet is anxiety-attacking all over the place

0 upvotes
Klay
By Klay (Feb 8, 2012)

So, guess I'm not the only who has gone to keh.com to see what they'd pay for my "old" stuff....

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Stephen123
By Stephen123 (Feb 8, 2012)

These things are more like specialized tools than point-and-shoots. Extraordinary senosors, exceptional glass, but non-interchangable prime lenses. If you want to change focal length, you change cameras!

The things that I wonder about are: the lack of an automatic lens cover; attachment point on right is not positioned well for a wrist strap; doesn't look like a good grip; and 45mm equivalent instead of a true standard lens.

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Johan Borg
By Johan Borg (Feb 8, 2012)

A true standard lens on this sensor would be 28.3mm (sensor diagonal), so it's pretty close at 30.

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Stephen123
By Stephen123 (Feb 8, 2012)

I was thinking of it as 35mm Full Frame has a diagonal about 43mm, but a focal length of about 51mm best matches average human vision. So a 34mm or 35mm lens on an APS-C would be a better tool than a 30mm, given that the lens can't be changed.

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Stephen123
By Stephen123 (Feb 8, 2012)

Hmm... Average human field of view is 53 degrees. Focal length equals diagonal gets a field of view of 60 degrees. So depending how you look at it a Normal lens for APS-C is wither 28.3 or 31.7. 30mm is right in the middle and close enough either way. But I'd still pick 32mm over 30mm for an APS-C Prime lens if I was given the choice.

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jacketpotato
By jacketpotato (Feb 8, 2012)

WOOOOO

Killer IQ.
Companion to 1DX 5D3, D4 D800, M9, 645D Leaf, Phase.

...

As the lenses areas m43 lenses from Sigma.
Does the pipeline have a MILC m43
If it is weather resistant, evf, swivel screen OMG.

Two compacts :
28-200mm f2-2.8, 2/3" sensor, 1cm macro, evf, swivel screen
24-70mm 1" sensor, f1.8-f2.2, evf, swivel screen
would complete the lineup.

0 upvotes
Mssimo
By Mssimo (Feb 8, 2012)

This sensor could come close to the sharpness of the D800. I really want DXOmark to test one of these things, I really want to know how they play the numbers game.

0 upvotes
Couscousdelight
By Couscousdelight (Feb 8, 2012)

Nice move from Sigma, i could be interested by that compact camera.

0 upvotes
HBowman
By HBowman (Feb 8, 2012)

AWESOME !!!

HAIL SIGMA !!!

Seriouselly awesome. X100, XPro1 ... vanished in the smoke and hot air.

7 upvotes
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Feb 8, 2012)

Hahaha. The only thing to consider now though is the file sizes. This is going to take in large, large files. I wonder what's the memory card going to be.

Comment edited 9 minutes after posting
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snake_b
By snake_b (Feb 8, 2012)

Why couldn't Sigma come up with a faster lens for this? Seriously?

I can't wait for this to be blown out for 299 or less, like all the predecessors.

3 upvotes
DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

Expect both to cost closer to 10x that!

1 upvote
Klarno
By Klarno (Feb 8, 2012)

Well, I guess we know now where the 19mm f/2.8 and 30mm f/2.8 for MFT/NEX came from.

I'd consider buying one of these.

1 upvote
Eric Glam
By Eric Glam (Feb 8, 2012)

Though I do like the idea of having the 15MPx3 Foveon sensor in a compact body, there are at least 3 major things missing:

1. Good video capability - at least 1080p60 should have been offered.
2. A faster fixed lens with a bit of zoom - something along the lines of 18-36 f/1.8.
3. An OLED LCD with 4-way tilting capability and at least 0.5MP resolution.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Feb 8, 2012)

"1. Good video capability - at least 1080p60 should have been offered."

This is certainly not a video camera - the sensor reading speed much be much slower than that of current CCD / MOS ones. Hence the lack of even 720p video, let alone 1080p.

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marike6
By marike6 (Feb 8, 2012)

The SD1 IQ is pretty awesome, so it follows that these two cameras should be equally impressive. DP2 always impressed my IQ wise, so this camera should be spectacular. Would have preferred, at minimum, an f2 lens, but I guess size was a concern.

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Sosua
By Sosua (Feb 8, 2012)

Damn, pretty sweet pocket camera.

Now if this was a CSC things would be rocking - hopefully Sigma sell the SD1 sensor to Sony or something and they can slap it in an NEX7

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FreeRadical009
By FreeRadical009 (Feb 8, 2012)

I think that it will be a problem, since the NEX mount it's designed for APS-C sized sensors and the Foveon are much smaller than that.

In any case, they should sell the technology to Sony, but if I recall correctly, Sony has been working on sensor technology similar to Foveon for some time now, maybe in a few years will see such a sensor on the Alphas and NEXes.

0 upvotes
tjobbe
By tjobbe (Feb 8, 2012)

the 46MP has the same size being CROP 1,5

3 upvotes
Johan Borg
By Johan Borg (Feb 8, 2012)

Looks like they did the exact opposite: Offering the DP lenses for the NEX: The DP1M and DP2M lenses match aperture and focal length of the new Sigma DN lenses for NEX and m4/3...

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DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

For Radical009...The SD1/DPM sensor is actually a fraction larger than both Nikon DX sensors and the sensor in the NEX-7.
In lab tests, the SD1/DPM sensor has been shown to have virtually identical resolution to the NEX-7.
The NEX-7 is a FAR BETTER CAMERA in EVERY respect though!
Like all Sigma cameras, the DPM's offer very few features for your money whereas the NEX-7 is extremely rich with features which make infinitely more versitile, and it will probably cost a lot less than the DPM's too...Its a no brainer!

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vvayne
By vvayne (Feb 8, 2012)

I would love a 35mm EQ lens. Can't wait for test shots, DP2S was already pretty good tool.

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LukeDuciel
By LukeDuciel (Feb 8, 2012)

The last generation was so slow that I could not bear and sold my samples. I hope sigma fixed the speed in these two.

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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Feb 8, 2012)

They did fixed it but also created new problems. Since it has parts of the SD1, it also gets the performance of the SD1 (except for AF,of course).

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Feb 8, 2012)

Sensor that is in the SD1? The only way to screw this up is to make it 3,299 bucks (matching the price of the D800)

Sigma; Grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.

My kind regards to the late president of sigma.

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Feb 8, 2012)

I thought they would name the camera after the late president, guess not. This must have been in the pipes for a while.

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Jostian
By Jostian (Feb 8, 2012)

a P&S needs a built in flash!! these don't seem to have built in flashes, ridiculous... defeat from the jaws of victory indeed!!!

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (Feb 8, 2012)

Well they slashed the SD1 price to $2299 so there is every possibility that these two cameras will be priced sensibly. :)

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Feb 8, 2012)

SD1 still on amazon for around $7,000
This camera would sell like hot cakes if the price is around $700-$1000 (people wil feel like they have the engine of a Ferrari in a nice cheap hatchback)

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GodSpeaks
By GodSpeaks (Feb 8, 2012)

Yeah... $1999

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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Feb 8, 2012)

Hmm...that's a good guess.

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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Feb 8, 2012)

I take it back, the SD1 has been repriced. Mssimo's estimates seem to be right on.

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Sekura Drops
By Sekura Drops (Feb 8, 2012)

Sigma's new CEO, Kazuto Yamaki has announced the re-branding and re-pricing of the company's flagship camera. The SD1 DSLR will now be know as the SD1 Merrill, in honor of the Dick Merrill, inventor of the Foveon sensor technology on which it is based. The price will also be revised, falling to what should be a street price of around $2,299, which Yamaki attributes to work conducted to reduce production costs of the sensor. Despite these changes, his letter promises the performance and characteristics of the sensor have not changed. To avoid disappointing existing SD1 customers, Sigma will offer a support program with 'points' that can be exchanged for Sigma products.

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Jorge Ledesma
By Jorge Ledesma (Feb 8, 2012)

At $599 and $699 would be compelling, regardless of the foveon.

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DaSigmaGuy
By DaSigmaGuy (Feb 8, 2012)

"This camera would sell like hot cakes if the price is around $700-$1000 (people wil feel like they have the engine of a Ferrari in a nice cheap hatchback)"

But because the DPM's dont have a an interchangable lensmount its like being stuck with skinny steel wheels on that Ferrari engined hatchback with absolutely no way to change them for wider, lighter alloys!

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