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Sony launches five zoom compacts, including HX30V 20x WiFi compact superzoom

By dpreview staff on Feb 28, 2012 at 04:00 GMT

Sony has launched four GPS-enabled 18MP CMOS zoom compacts, ranging from the 16x DSC-HX10V all the way up to the 30x DSC-HX200V. The DSS-HX20V adds a 20x zoom to the 10V's specs and the HX30V gains WiFi on top of that. All four CMOS cameras offer nine creative processing filters and latest fast AF which the company says will focus in as little as 0.1sec and 0.2sec in low light, they also have high-res 920,000 dot LCDs. There's also a less-expensive 16MP CCD 16X zoom model, the DSC-H90. All of the cameras feature at least 27mm equivalent wide-angle lenses.

The four CMOS cameras feature the company's latest fast AF which interprets the depth of the scene before you take a shot, to ensure it moves its lens in the right direction when you try to take an image. This combines with fast processing and a fast read-out sensor to offer the short focus times promised. The DSC-HX20V, 30V and 200V also offer the latest image stabilization that corrections for camera rotations around the lens axis.

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Press Release:

GET CLOSER TO THE ACTION WITH NEW HIGH-ZOOM SONY CYBER-SHOT CAMERAS

SAN DIEGO, Feb. 27, 2012 – Sony's new "H-Series" high-zoom Cyber-shot cameras make it easy to capture crisp, beautiful photos and HD videos from a variety of distances. Ideal for travel photography or simply capturing everyday content, the five new models include the DSC-HX200V, DSC-HX30V, DSC-HX20V, DSC-HX10V and DSC-H90 cameras. The HX30V and HX20V models will each feature a new, ultra-thin 20x optical lens, which enhances zoom capabilities while still maintaining a small, compact body. Additionally, the HX30V will feature Wi-Fi® capabilities, allowing for seamless transfer of photos to compatible smartphones, tablets or televisions and sharing via popular social networking services.

"Consumers want versatility in a compact camera," said Yosuke Tomoda, director of the Cyber-shot business at Sony Electronics. "By focusing on slim, stylish designs while adding advanced image sensors, strong zoom capabilities and new opportunities to share content socially, we continue to push the boundaries of the category."

The new 20x zoom "AA" (advanced aspherical) lens element in the HX30V and HX20V models produces outstanding results with a design drastically smaller than comparable 20x lenses in previous models. The thinly-designed lens, which requires highly sophisticated glass molding to create, allows the camera chasses to remain as compact as possible. In addition to its strong zoom capabilities, the new "AA" lens can focus at a minimum distance of approximately 1 cm for stunning, clear macro shots.

The new DSC-HX30V model features Wi-Fi® capabilities, allowing it to link directly and transfer content to a variety of compatible devices including smartphones, tablets and televisions. Using the new PlayMemories™ Mobile application from Sony, images can then be shared easily from the host device on Facebook®, YouTube® and other popular sharing sites. The Play Memories app is currently available for free download on both the iTunes® app store and Android Market™.

High-Zoom, High-Resolution

The new HX200V, HX30V, HX20V and HX10V cameras all have a new Sony 18.2 MP "Exmor R" CMOS sensor, the highest resolution sensor currently offered in the mainstream "point and shoot" market. The new sensor teams with an advanced BIONZ® processor to deliver blazing fast AutoFocus speeds of approximately 0.13 seconds in daylight and 0.21 seconds in low-light shooting situations (in case of fastest model, measured at 3 EV). Additionally, the new cameras feature "Clear Image Zoom" digital zoom technology, which boosts optical zoom to 2x virtual capabilities (i.e. 20x optical to 40x "Clear Image Zoom") while maintaining full resolution.

The high-end HX200V features a 30x optical zoom (60x "Clear Image Zoom"), with the HX30V and HX20V cameras each offering 20x optical zoom (40x "Clear Image Zoom") and the HX10V model offering 16x optical zoom (32x "Clear Image Zoom"). Each of these new models has "Optical Steady Shot" to reduce any blurring caused by camera shake during shooting – even with the zoom extended - as well as some creative photographic settings.

The entry-level H90 zoom camera has a 16.1 MP CCD sensor, 16x optical zoom lens, 720p HD video capabilities, enhanced image stabilization for both stills and movie shooting (Optical Steady Shot Active Mode) and a variety of other useful features.

Product Specs, Pricing and Availability

The new assortment of high-zoom "H Series" cameras will be available at Sony retail stores and online (www.store.sony.com) as well as other authorized retailers throughout the Sony dealer network. Detailed specifications are below:

• The DSC-HX200V camera will be available in black this March for approximately $480.  Features include:

  • 18.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor
  • 30x optical zoom lens (27-810mm in 35mm format) with 60x digital “Clear Image Zoom” at full resolution
  • “Extra High Sensitivity” technology enhances low-light shooting capabilities
  • Lightning-fast AF speed of approximately 0.13 second in daylight, 0.24 seconds in low-light at 3 EV (speeds may vary based on shooting conditions)
  • 3.0-inch, 921k dot resolution tilting LCD screen
  • Captures 13MP equivalent still images while shooting video via “Dual-Record”
  • Full HD Movie Shooting capability (1920x1080/60p) and Optical SteadyShot Active Mode (3 way shake cancelling)
  • Photo Creativity interface and 9 “Picture Effect” options for creating unique, custom-styled photos and video
  • Embedded GPS functionality with newly added GPS Log Recording function

• >The DSC-HX30V camera will be available in black this May for approximately $420. Features include:

  • 18.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor
  • 20x optical zoom lens (25-500mm in 35mm format) with 40x  digital “Clear Image Zoom” at full resolution
  • Wi-Fi enabled for sharing content directly with compatible smartphone, PC, tablet or other devices
  • “Extra High Sensitivity” technology enhances low-light shooting capabilities
  • Lightning-fast AF speed of approximately 0.13 second in daylight, 0.21 seconds in low-light at 3 EV (speeds may vary based on shooting conditions)
  • 3.0-inch, 921k dot LCD screen
  • Captures 13MP equivalent still images while shooting video via “Dual-Record”
  • Full HD Movie Shooting capability (1920x1080/60p) and Optical SteadyShot Active Mode (3 way shake cancelling)
  • Photo Creativity interface and 9 “Picture Effect” options for creating unique, custom-styled photos and video
  • Embedded GPS functionality with newly added GPS Log Recording function
  • Manufactured with “SoRPlas” – Sony recycled plastic – an exceptionally durable plastic containing 99% recycled materials

• The DSC-HX20V camera will be available in black this May for approximately $400. Features include:

  • 18.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor
  • 20x optical zoom lens (25-500mm in 35mm format) with 40x digital “Clear Image Zoom” at full resolution
  •  “Extra High Sensitivity” technology enhances low-light shooting capabilities
  • Lightning-fast AF speed of approximately 0.13 second in daylight, 0.21 seconds in low-light at 3 EV (speeds may vary based on shooting conditions)
  • 3.0-inch, 921k dot LCD screen
  • Captures 13MP equivalent still images while shooting video via “Dual-Record”
  • Full HD Movie Shooting capability (1920x1080/60p) and Optical SteadyShot Active Mode (3 way shake cancelling)
  • Photo Creativity interface and 9 “Picture Effect” options for creating unique, custom-styled photos and video
  • Embedded GPS functionality with newly added GPS Log Recording function
  • Manufactured with “SoRPlas” – Sony recycled plastic – an exceptionally durable plastic containing 99% recycled materials

• The DSC-HX10V camera will be available in white, silver, black and red this March for approximately $330. Features include:

  • 18.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor
  • 16x optical zoom lens (24-384mm in 35mm format) with 40x digital “Clear Image Zoom” at full resolution
  •  “Extra High Sensitivity” technology enhances low-light shooting capabilities
  • Lightning-fast AF speed of approximately 0.13 second in daylight, 0.22 seconds in low-light at 3 EV (speeds may vary based on shooting conditions)
  • 3.0-inch, 921k dot LCD screen
  • Captures 13 MP equivalent still images while shooting video via “Dual-Record”
  • Full HD Movie Shooting capability (1920x1080/60i) and Optical SteadyShot Active Mode (2 way shake cancelling)
  • Photo Creativity interface and 9 “Picture Effect” options for creating unique, custom-styled photos and video
  • Embedded GPS functionality with newly added GPS Log Recording function

• The DSC-H90 camera will be available in silver, black and red this March for approximately $250. Features include:

  • 16.1 MP CCD sensor
  • 16x optical zoom lens (24-384mm in 35mm format)
  • 3.0-inch, 460k dot LCD screen
  • 720p HD Movie Shooting capability (1280x720/30p), Optical SteadyShot Active Mode
  • Improved iAuto mode that can recognize up to 33 scenes
  • 4 “Picture Effect” options for creating unique, custom-styled photos and video

Sony DSC-HX200V & H90 specifications

 Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX200VSony Cyber-shot DSC-H90
Price
MSRPApprox. $480Approx. $250
Body type
Body typeSLR-like (bridge)Compact
Sensor
Max resolution4896 x 36724608 x 3456
Other resolutions4912 x 1080, 4896 x 2752, 3648 x 2736, 3424 x 1920, 2592 x 1944, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 4804608 x 2592, 3648 x 2736, 2592 x 1944, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 480
Image ratio w:h4:3, 16:9
Effective pixels18 megapixels16 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors19 megapixels16 megapixels
Sensor size1/2.3" (6.17 x 4.55 mm)
Sensor typeBSI-CMOSCCD
ProcessorBIONZ
Image
ISOAuto, 100, 125, 160, 200, 250, 320, 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600, 2000, 2500, 3200, 4000, 5000, 6400, 8000, 10000, 12800Auto, 80, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200
White balance presets76
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationOptical
Uncompressed formatNo
File format
  • JPEG (Exif 2.3)
  • 3D: MPF
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)27–810 mm24–384 mm
Optical zoom30×16×
Maximum apertureF2.8 - F5.6F3.3 - F5.9
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Selective single-point
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Face Detection
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Face Detection
Autofocus assist lampYes
Digital zoomYes (2x)Yes (20x)
Manual focusYesNo
Macro focus range1 cm (0.39)5 cm (1.97)
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDTiltingFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots921,600460,800
Touch screenNo
Screen typeXtraFine TruBlack TFT LCDClearPhoto TFT LCD display
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeElectronicNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/4000 sec1/1600 sec
Exposure modes
  • Superior Auto
  • Intelligent Auto
  • Easy Shooting
  • Program Auto, w/Program Shift
  • Movie Mode
  • Panorama
  • Shutter Speed Priority
  • Aperture Priority
  • Manual Exposure
  • Scene Selection
  • Picture Effect
  • 3D
  • Background Defocus
  • Intelligent Auto
  • Easy Shooting
  • Program Auto
  • Movie Mode
  • Panorama
  • Manual Exposure
  • Scene Selection
  • Picture Effect
Scene modes
  • High Sensitivity
  • Night Scene
  • Handheld Twilight
  • Night Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Soft Snap
  • Soft Skin
  • Anti Motion Blur
  • Backlight Correction HDR
  • Beach
  • Snow
  • Fireworks
  • Advanced Sports Shooting
  • Gourmet
  • Pet Mode
  • High Sensitivity
  • Night Scene
  • Night Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Soft Snap
  • Soft Skin
  • Beach
  • Snow
  • Fireworks
  • Advanced Sports Shooting
  • Gourmet
  • Pet Mode
Built-in flashYes (Pop-up)
Flash range12.40 m3.70 m
External flashNo
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Slow Sync, Rear Slow SyncAuto, On, Off, Slow Sync
Drive modes
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Self-timer
Continuous drive10 fps1 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec, Portrait 1/2)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (60 fps), 1440 x 1080 (60, 30 fps), 1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps)1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, AVCHDMPEG-4
MicrophoneStereoMono
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC, Memory Stick Duo/Pro Duo/Pro-HG DuoSD/SDHC/SDXC/Memory Stick Duo/Memory Stick Pro Duo, Memory Stick Pro-HG Duo
Storage included105 MB27 MB
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (Mini)No
WirelessEye-Fi Connected
Remote controlNo
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion NP-FH50 battery and chargerLithium-Ion NP-BG1 battery and charger
Battery Life (CIPA)450290
Weight (inc. batteries)583 g (1.29 lb / 20.56 oz)222 g (0.49 lb / 7.83 oz)
Dimensions122 x 87 x 93 mm (4.8 x 3.43 x 3.66)105 x 60 x 34 mm (4.13 x 2.36 x 1.34)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingNo
GPSBuiltInNone
GPS noteswith GPS Log Recording function

Sony DSC-HX10V, 20V & 30V specifications

 Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX10VSony Cyber-shot DSC-HX20VSony Cyber-shot DSC-HX30V
Price
MSRPApprox. $330Approx. $400Approx. $420
Body type
Body typeCompact
Sensor
Max resolution4896 x 3672
Other resolutions4912 x 1080, 4896 x 2752, 3648 x 2736, 3424 x 1920, 2592 x 1944, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 480
Image ratio w:h4:3, 16:9
Effective pixels18 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors19 megapixels
Sensor size1/2.3" (6.17 x 4.55 mm)
Sensor typeBSI-CMOS
ProcessorBIONZ
Image
ISOAuto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800
White balance presets7
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationOptical
Uncompressed formatNo
File format
  • JPEG (Exif 2.3)
  • 3D: MPF
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)24–400 mm25–500 mm
Optical zoom16.7×20×
Maximum apertureF3.3 - F5.9F3.2 - F5.8
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Face Detection
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Selective single-point
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Face Detection
Digital zoomYes (40x)
Manual focusNoYes
Macro focus range5 cm (1.97)1 cm (0.39)
Number of focus points9
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots921,600
Touch screenNo
Screen typeXtraFine TruBlack TFT LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/1600 sec
Exposure modes
  • Superior Auto
  • Intelligent Auto
  • Easy Shooting
  • Program Auto
  • Movie Mode
  • Panorama
  • Manual Exposure
  • Scene Selection
  • Picture Effect
  • 3D
  • Background Defocus
Scene modes
  • High Sensitivity
  • Night Scene
  • Handheld Twilight
  • Night Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Soft Snap
  • Soft Skin
  • Anti Motion Blur
  • Backlight Correction HDR
  • Beach
  • Snow
  • Fireworks
  • Advanced Sports Shooting
  • Gourmet
  • Pet Mode
Built-in flashYes (Pop-up)
Flash range5.30 m7.10 m
External flashNo
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Slow Sync
Drive modes
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Self-timer
Continuous drive10 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec, Portrait 1/2)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (60 fps), 1440 x 1080 (30 fps), 1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, AVCHD
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC, Memory Stick Duo/Pro Duo/Pro-HG Duo
Storage included19 MB105 MB
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes
WirelessEye-Fi ConnectedBuilt-In
Remote controlNo
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion NP-BG1 battery and charger
Battery Life (CIPA)320
Weight (inc. batteries)234 g (0.52 lb / 8.25 oz)254 g (0.56 lb / 8.96 oz)
Dimensions105 x 60 x 34 mm (4.13 x 2.36 x 1.34)107 x 62 x 35 mm (4.21 x 2.44 x 1.38)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingNo
GPSBuiltIn
GPS noteswith GPS Log Recording function

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Comments

Total comments: 112
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DougMace
By DougMace (Jan 2, 2013)

I just bought an HX30V and I found at least two major flaws with this camera (and I'm not a serious photographer):
1. The location of the flash, plus the length of the zoom lens, creates a nasty shadow on the bottom right of the image when shooting closeup with flash (the flash is located in the upper left, creating the shadow on the bottom right).
2. Some of the Scene post-processing are so "computer intensive", might as well call them "Manga Mode". In some cases, particularly in low light, there were a bunch of white blotches that came from nowhere, skin colors were reduced to two tones, artifacts from one side of the image were copied to another side of the image, etc.

WiFi is nice (since we're nowadays too lazy for sneaker-net), but this is a camera first and I think Sony failed miserably (even though the zoom, image stabilization and outdoor shots are great)

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Jehnavi
By Jehnavi (Jun 21, 2012)

The Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-HX30V camera review lets you know about features, specs and price. Cybershot DSC-HX30V offers 20x zoom and amazing picture quality.
http://www.techiecop.com/cameras/sony-cameras/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-hx30v-camera-review.html

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Dr GM
By Dr GM (Mar 24, 2012)

Dear Sony ..
HX9V was the worst scam i had in my whole life ... and the same story again is here
this one with no RAW and extreme JPEG compression , and electronically fixed 3 or 8 or 11 F-stops ..and no manual white balance control or manual exposure control
your non-responsive useless customer support
and last but not least no frameware update even with existing problems

NO ... thank you
keep the HX200V for yourselves

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Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Mar 7, 2012)

seriously, I cannot go back to the IQ of 1/2.3" now...

and how will the distortion be like for those high zoom lens?

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bigbikefan
By bigbikefan (Mar 5, 2012)

No RAW file format? It's a skipper for me...

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skyrunr
By skyrunr (Mar 4, 2012)

For anything over $300: no flash shoe means no sale. :( All manufactures need to seriously consider a cleaner less compressed 10-12mp image.

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k0c3t0
By k0c3t0 (Mar 3, 2012)

I look forward to the new sony cameras, I'm extremely disappointed..Sony, can always sell junk at high prices.I prefer to buy a camera made ​​in 2006 with a sensor with 1.6 and the rest of my money to get Iphone or Nokia n8

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sh10453
By sh10453 (Mar 2, 2012)

I've just finished searching all the Holy Books.

I couldn't find anything coming from Heavens that says "Thou shall stick to a 1/2.3" sensor in P&S cameras".

Actually, I'm sick of seeing the 1/2.3" sensor being used in P&S year after year after year .... without "REAL" improvement in image quality.

People have been crying to heavens & begging for a change (for a better sensor), yet we just get more & more pixel count from marketing idiots who think buyers are idiots and are still naive!

A few years ago, they called the cameras with this size sensor "5 megapixel cameras".
Now they have become 18 Plus megapixel cameras.

Are they feeding them some magical fertilizer?? Miracle Growth, maybe?

Dear Sony Marketing,

I promise you that I will not buy any more P&S cameras that are based on 1/2.3" sensors!
So none of these cameras will be coming home with me.
Got it?

Kodak learned the lesson when it was too late!

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CNT007
By CNT007 (Mar 3, 2012)

Dear Sony Marketing,

I promise you that I will not buy any more P&S cameras that are based on 1/2.3" sensors!
So none of these cameras will be coming home with me.
Got it?
..............................................
Basically, I am agreeing that too. First few things I look for when I come in DPR... 1) Sony got any new camera(s)? 2) Is it HX? (although I am open to what else Sony got, main thing is quility HD video, along with good camera) 3) how long is the (optical) zoom? 4) Finally, is it still annoying 1/2.3"

Be aware, if you think you would/could raise the price if you throw a slightly bigger sensor, then don't bother. We have been waiting for so long for a mere larger sensors in P&S (long zoom) cameras. Nice to have 18MP, BUT must have step-up sensors.

Makes me think how do Sony lab do cameras? 1/2.3" is like cars with 13" tires, many want 14" for small cars! Get out of 1/2.3"! Change staffs if you have do.

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CNT007
By CNT007 (Mar 3, 2012)

Forgot to add that these HX (or whatever) should include RAW. Perhaps little more selections of video formats. How much more $ would that be? Few cents, I can accept that!

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Mar 1, 2012)

Cybershot use to have a pair... a long time ago now. Grow a pair and include raw. Also reduce the megapixels and you'll see cameras sell like crazy.

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cernic
By cernic (Mar 1, 2012)

because these cameras are viewed here mostly by SLR owners who are updated by the technology, the IQ is pretty bad;but when viewed by newbies and people who only prints 6Rs and does not pixel peep,for them these are amazing cameras..

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Mar 1, 2012)

Amazing- that word gets tossed around way too much. There's nothing amazing about them, they are very average, look around the camera market and you'll see 10 just like each one of them.

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joseph mccormack
By joseph mccormack (Mar 1, 2012)

Because they may be typical does not mean that they can not be amazing. 'Amazing' is not a level of uniqueness. There are 7 billion people on Earth and each one of us is amazing...

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Everlast66
By Everlast66 (Feb 29, 2012)

I don't believe that any normal individual would make the effort required to distinguish between the dosens of P&S models available from Sony and Nikon. The only people that make any sense of these letter combinations HZ/X/V/S/P/L and 000 000 000 numbrs are Sony and Nikon marketing "specialists" .... and this is because they are PAID to do it!

Nikon has 7 S models, 2-3 P models, L models, AW model and the projector model. I have never been able to get my head around the Sony numbering system. I don't even want to think about Panasonic and Samsung.

Why not cut down to three models each, make the choices for the customers. Apple proved this can be done, and actually I think this is one of their greatest strengths!

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edu T
By edu T (Feb 29, 2012)

Everlast66, meet the Fuji superzoom and P&S lineup... :)
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Feb 29, 2012)

As a beginner, amateur photographer, I am very disappointed to see that these sensors are so tiny.
This is all marketing hype and buzzwords, for a very normal and predictive update of a for-the-masses very ordinary consumer line.
I see nothing new or special here.

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p12
By p12 (Feb 29, 2012)

@Sekura, sure, the picture isn't great, only watercolour, but this is ISO5000!

@Cy, you are right, no shop will have so much similar models available, Sony should concentrate on lesser models.

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edu T
By edu T (Feb 29, 2012)

A sample at ISO 1600 is obviously much more meaningful:
http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/Cybershot-DSCHX20V-4063/highres/DSC00292_1330479654.jpg
The sample gallery:
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/sony-cyber-shot-dsc-hx20v-hands-on-sample-photos-18605

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Feb 29, 2012)

There is no way on earth Sony can make money from 5 distinct P&S zoom cameras, certainly not in a market with so many similar models, and definitely not in a market where consumers will be more apt to spend their next discretionary income on a tablet or a smart phone. The fact that most of the models employ the same 1/2.3" sensor, and other ingredients, does not offset the confusion. The race for megapixels, which remain the standard average buyers apply to screen cameras, is lost anyway, if the Nokia 41mp phone camera leads the pack. At least Nokia had the smarts to employ a larger sensor and wider base aperture.

I am skeptical that any of the new models will cure the sluggish menu, mode control, inter-shot delays, or movie button response of the preceding HX models.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Feb 29, 2012)

Very well said.
I think it's just a competition for shelf-space... if you have a nice brand name (like "sony") and enough models, maybe you have better chances of gaining market share on the limited and prized real-estate on store shelves and catalogues on computer screens.

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Sekura Drops
By Sekura Drops (Feb 29, 2012)

I was slightly hopeful about this camera that sony failed about pic quality big time in hx9v since it paints not takes photos even in base iso in some occasions, you expect them to change somethings. But after seeing this photo:

http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/Cybershot-DSCHX20V-4063/highres/DSC00291_1330479450.jpg

I think how bad you can fail! Anyhow you can buy it for simplest p and s occasions with 20x reach. Still have to consider Panasonic FZ150 or wanna consider more compact body canon announced also new compact zooms that will certainly perform better than this in stills and not fail you too much for videos too.

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edu T
By edu T (Feb 29, 2012)

But hey, that photo was shot at ISO 5000!
At ISO 1600 things get remarkably better, see here from the same source: http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/Cybershot-DSCHX20V-4063/highres/DSC00292_1330479654.jpg

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Sam Carriere
By Sam Carriere (Feb 28, 2012)

Sony has yet to deliver on the NEX-7 announced 9 months ago and yet it keeps announcing new products. No wonder this company lost a billion dollars in the last quarter of 2011.

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dark goob
By dark goob (Feb 29, 2012)

You douche... THAILAND FLOODED do you have any concept of what that did to the factories of Sony, Nikon, Western Digital, et al.? Have you no sensitivity? I'd like to see how many months it would take you to turn your life around after all your possessions are erased off the Earth.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Feb 29, 2012)

Any company that puts all its eggs in one basket (in this case, production facilities on a flood plain) deserves what it gets: trouble. The poor people (employees) who can't afford to live anywhere but on flood-prone sites are a different matter. Unfortunately, many will rebuild in spots that future floods will destroy again.

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Sam Carriere
By Sam Carriere (Mar 1, 2012)

Dark goob, calling someone with whom you disagree a "douvhe" says more about you than about me.
I KNOW about the damn floods already. But compare the way Nikon dealt with them in terms of keeping customers aware of difficulties and timelines for delivery with Sony's non-response, and you end up with a company that has neither respect nor any regard for its customer base. Sony is a company that deserves to fail.

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Almeida
By Almeida (Mar 1, 2012)

Thank you for the comparison.

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gatorengineer64
By gatorengineer64 (Feb 28, 2012)

How about upgradeable firmware?...... Love the HX9V would love it more if firmware was updated to fix a few boo boos.....

Also a shame that these didnt get an APS-C Sensor.....

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Feb 29, 2012)

APS-C = NEX or a65. However, some fixed lens APS-C with zoom up to perhaps 150mm would have been interesting. Trouble is, with the deficit in NEX7 or a77 production, no new ASP-C devices are likely to be feasible (or available) for a long time.

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Diggadonkey
By Diggadonkey (Feb 28, 2012)

Too many cameras, too many pixels... This is why I HATE when people ask me to recommend a P&S to them. "Let me get back to you in about 3 weeks, after I've read a million reviews on the 300,000 camera options available." Ugh.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Feb 29, 2012)

What reviews? Who could possibly review all these cameras and offer any distinctive advice about which one is "best"?

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Diggadonkey
By Diggadonkey (Mar 1, 2012)

What reviews? Seriously? There are tons of reviews on numerous websites for cameras. You can also drive yourself insane watching all the camera reviews by users on YouTube. Or you can drive yourself even more insane by reading all the Amazon reviews.

And that's exactly my point: it's ridiculous to try and recommend a "best" camera option to people who inquire.

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Lofi
By Lofi (Feb 28, 2012)

The only thing that's really interesting is whether they fixed their broken image compression algorithms or not. All the compacts of last year had excellent specifications, but the pictures turned out to be horrible unless viewed at low resolution.

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Babya
By Babya (Feb 28, 2012)

Even most of the older Konica Minolta DiMAGE Z series of cameras included a alpha/Minolta type iISO hotshoe for external flashes (always handy to have), and these didn't support RAW just like the the HX200V.

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Babya
By Babya (Feb 28, 2012)

Wish Sony could have added a hotshoe to the HX200V-like what Fuji has done with their SL300 superzoom for instance (both don't support RAW).

The R1 had a ISO hotshoe-something that hasn't been on a Cyber-shot for several years no.

Maybe something Sony could consider for their 2013 HX300V, perhaps the Alpha/Minolta type of hotshoe.

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Seagull TLR
By Seagull TLR (Mar 1, 2012)

...and filter thread :-)

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DotCom Editor
By DotCom Editor (Feb 28, 2012)

Too bad they don't do RAW.

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lordsakana
By lordsakana (Feb 28, 2012)

Yes, I ended up getting rid of my HX9V for that very reason.

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (Feb 28, 2012)

My fist camera was DSC-W150 back in 2008. Its still a decent camera that i also have the underwater housing.

BUT Sony changes cybershot model range so often (now it takes less than a year !) it made me a bit sad, to have "the old toy" back in these days. I got my camera in August 2008, and the new models were on after 3 months !!! And it was another challange to figure out water housing after 6 months from my purchase, because the camera was already "an old model" that was hard to figure out further accessoies...

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Trafford
By Trafford (Feb 28, 2012)

It would be nice to see some images before all this hyper carping
from the resident moaners.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Feb 29, 2012)

Fool me once, shame on Sony. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me a third time, and ... No, that just won't happen. Sorry.

But go ahead: pre-order all five. Why should you, Trafford, have a shread of doubt about the improvements Sony claims? Gosh, the cameras have more megapixels. Progress! Right?

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Feb 28, 2012)

It's pretty obvious what is happening here.

Compact cameras are a dying breed. They are getting killed by camera phones below them, and small MILC cameras above them. Aside from the highest end models (like the S100, LX5 and XZ-1) they will cease to exist in a few more years.

So the marketing departments take over and start stuffing more megapixels, more zoom range, more scene modes, more gimmick features, and more of everything else except image quality.

Because it is physically impossible to provide better image quality when building a 30X zoom based on a tiny sensor.

All of these cameras are a total waste of money for most people.

Get a good camera phone... or just buy another lens for for your MILC camera. You will be better off.

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rusticus
By rusticus (Feb 28, 2012)

The HX9V is an awesome video-camera with 1080/50 or 60p - worlds better than any cell phone
see you
http://vimeo.com/25293447
http://vimeo.com/27194449
http://vimeo.com/25088008
http://vimeo.com/25147475
;)

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nearprairie
By nearprairie (Feb 28, 2012)

Thanks for the Vimeo tips. The Jeen de Vos shorts are impressive.

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Lensjoy
By Lensjoy (Feb 28, 2012)

Consumer-grade cameras will be killed by camera phones, but enthusiasts will still find a niche for a camera that's focused on photography. Camera phones still suffer from horrible shutter lag, lack of manual controls, and many other technical faults photographers care about but consumers don't have a clue about. Phones don't shoot in RAW, have nasty compression artifacts, poor shadow detail, the list goes on and on. When you look at the engineering needed to create a camera such as the Canon S95, I don't see phone manufacturers stepping up to the bar to do it. They want to provide data access to download games, video, music, and anything else they can charge for to make a profit. Photos are user-created content, and don't fit the business model of phone manufacturers. Real cameras let The People create content. In the hands of a competent person, the content quality is far better with a device designed specifically for that task. That's why I hope they survive.

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ARTASHES
By ARTASHES (Feb 29, 2012)

Marty4650
"Because it is physically impossible to provide better image quality when building a 30X zoom based on a tiny sensor."

Human being is very far from reaching physic's limits so I don't think that what you are saying is right

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tkpenalty
By tkpenalty (Mar 1, 2012)

ARTASHES

You know what the diffraction limit is right? Even if you make a 100% Antistigmatic/corrected/sharp lens you cannot beat the diffraction limit.

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ARTASHES
By ARTASHES (Mar 1, 2012)

I don't see your point ( I am not talking about 100% sharp, 100% best camera)
and I have no idea about that, my point is, that we always can do better and you can't know if less zoom or whatever camera was ever at that limit or not !!!

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vlad0
By vlad0 (Feb 28, 2012)

Nokia kind of made all of these cameras irrelevant with their 808 yesterday..

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Anepo
By Anepo (Feb 28, 2012)

Yea because it only delivers an actual 5 megapixel resolution >.>
They are just doing a stunt not anything of any real value

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (Feb 29, 2012)

read it from dpreview before making claims

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/27/Nokia-808-PureView-with-41MP-sensor

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Oery
By Oery (Feb 28, 2012)

enhance sensor size, not gazillions pixels........
do you read this Sony ?

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rusticus
By rusticus (Feb 28, 2012)

Ohhhhh - A successor to the wonderful HX9V: Which is better?

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Joe M Amadas
By Joe M Amadas (Feb 28, 2012)

2012 - the year most people skip upgrading and go for the price reduced 2011 models if they need a new super zoom.
And 420 Euro = $565 for a HX30V is just crazy - most retailers won´t even bother...

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way2trivial
By way2trivial (Feb 28, 2012)

I see it as $420.00 straight-- not euro?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 28, 2012)

Good news, folks. Some more 1/2.3-inch sensor garbage-cams in the throw-away category. Some of them can use the Sony Memory Sticks. Stick these you know where, Sony.

We already have what -- 999 current models of 1/2.3-inch sensor cameras that look the same and do the same. Why add these ones to that pile, Sony?

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D1N0
By D1N0 (Feb 28, 2012)

They are not garbage, but pretty nifty camera's with a few draw backs.

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d5rocket
By d5rocket (Feb 28, 2012)

They are good cameras designed for million others who are less critical. Sony is one of the most innovative companies. Ever heard of the NEX and SLT cameras? And what do Nikon & Cannon offer? Actually, I am a fan of micro 4/3, CSC now. (I also have many other cameras like most of you here.)

Did a 2 week trip in southeast Asia using a Panasonic G3 and Sony HX5V. Didn't shoot RAW at all. Exposure, color, speed and focus were good. Strong supplementary features of the HX5V were: GPS, panorama, zoom range, low light perf and battery life. Both were excellent, reliable, light weight travel cameras. They met my (lowered) realistic expectation and purpose of posting them on SkyDrive. The photographer's skill will more than compensate for a little less capable camera or IQ.

Francis, for clarification, Sony lost billions of Yens, or millions of US $.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

These new micros-sensor Sonys are truly good for nothing, If you want a cutting edge camera today, wait up for the Nokia 808 camera phone with the 1/1.2-inch sensor.

"Sony is one of the most innovative companies."

Yeah, I guess that is why they are already losing billions, and are on the verge of insolvency?

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karlviehe
By karlviehe (Feb 28, 2012)

RE: DCX - HX20:
Sometimes I wonder if the Sony design engineers over-d daily on stupid pillls. No shutter priority and aperture priority on the command dial?
Simply stupid.

No wonder the company has been floundering for a decade or more.

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Sekura Drops
By Sekura Drops (Feb 28, 2012)

It may be because of the fact that they do not have these modes. Its only a limited M mode like in HX9V I believe.

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karlviehe
By karlviehe (Feb 28, 2012)

It took Panasonic 3 generations on the DMZ ZS series to include both Tv and Av modes ... maybe Sony will get it right on the next generation ...... Actually, even the ergonomics of the new models look inferior to the HX9V ....
As mentioned, cell phones can handle most "party-type" & indoor photography .... but none have included even medium range optical zoom ...... which could be done with moderate relaxation of the "ultra-thin" obsession .....

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Sekura Drops
By Sekura Drops (Feb 28, 2012)

If the idea is going to places like parties, concerts or just wanna have some camera with you extra reach and dont wanna have large prints these things are awesome. I cannot carry my d7000 everywhere and if you dont add a fast lens to it you will stuch with kit 18-200. I believe these cameras will be better than hx9v which was really good in this range. I may think about having one to carry around for videos easy panoramas etc

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Kuturgan
By Kuturgan (Feb 28, 2012)

Nokia 808 just gaved them up.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (Feb 28, 2012)

Not a lot of difference visible. Extra zoom more pixels, small design changes. Hopefully they've added more control over noise reduction and faster menu changes and if so bring out updated firmware for the Hx9v or I will buy a Canon or a Fuji next time!. Do they even read forums at Sony?

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dodfr
By dodfr (Feb 28, 2012)

Sony please stop, 12/10MP sensors is far enought ! and for such small sensor 300/350mm zoom too !

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mjoshi
By mjoshi (Feb 28, 2012)

Am I the only one or others are also feeling same, between HX200V and HX100v only difference I see is increase of MP from 16 to 18, apart from that everything else is exactly same. Atleast they should have gone 24mm wide from 27mm.

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SamTruax
By SamTruax (Feb 28, 2012)

Hopefully another difference is the LCD screen... a lot of the HX100v screens were oversaturated with red tones...almost unusable. Hopefully they have figured that out in this new one.

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (Feb 28, 2012)

Obviously Sony were worried that the HX100V images were not mushy enough and you could maybe make out a blade of grass 1 foot away. I would think with this you will need macro close up to see a blade of grass on the lawn.
Presumably also anything that is not directly lit in sunlight will be as black as pitch.

No matter though, I am sure they will sell in droves and users will soon be billing and cooing over each others HX200V picures on the Sony forum soon enough.

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kewlguy
By kewlguy (Feb 28, 2012)

Mushy photography redefined. LOL... Need to take some insanity level test, Sony....

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cyriltw
By cyriltw (Feb 28, 2012)

Correct me if I am wrong but the HX200V doesnt have in built Wi-Fi right? Only the HX30V and HX20V has right?

If the HX200V does have Wi-Fi there is nothing stopping me from getting one for sure. It has everything that I need.

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Antal J
By Antal J (Feb 28, 2012)

No Wi-Fi in HX20

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snake_b
By snake_b (Feb 28, 2012)

Compacts are terrible these days. Stuffed with too many poor-quality megapixels on tiny chips, massive noise reduction, even in full daylight and base ISO, and painfully slow lenses that keep getting slower and slower, while high ISO usage is only enabled by massive noise reduction that starts at base ISO.

Weak.

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Eric Glam
By Eric Glam (Feb 28, 2012)

The HX30V could have been a serious buy if it had a better max aperture. f/3.3 really sucks.

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D1N0
By D1N0 (Feb 28, 2012)

get a powershot s100 or coolpix p310 when you want a large aperture and a hx20/30v when you want a lot of zoom. You can't have both :p

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Coyote_Cody
By Coyote_Cody (Feb 28, 2012)

18mp in 1/2.3" sensor, who really needs this??
The 16mp already was compromised to the point that it had no more resolution than a 10 or 12mp via noise reduction, even though Sony did wonders with it!

Silly, Silly, Silly!!!

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Don Wiss
By Don Wiss (Feb 28, 2012)

Yep. Posting one's pictures on the web is the way it is done these days. What use is a picture 4896 x 3672 pixels? No monitor exists close to that size.

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Rachotilko
By Rachotilko (Feb 28, 2012)

We all want compacts with sensor size at least 2/3. This 1/2.3 is not interesting anymore, guys !

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (Feb 28, 2012)

I suggest you look at the Fuji X-S1 lens sag first before you advocate upping the sensor size. The Pentax Q shows what can be done with a 1/2.3" sensor, pretty identical to the Canon G11 on DxOMark. It is the silly megapixels that are the problem. The 1/2.3" super zoom is a handy tool for many people and great fun to use.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 28, 2012)

1/2.3-inch sensor digital cameras are for fools. Or for the really, really, really poor people.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Feb 28, 2012)

Francis Carver is for the really really retarded people. Vote 1 Francis Carver. My guess is a real estate agent for sure.

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (Feb 28, 2012)

The question is, how will I remember any of these by the time I've read the next news item?

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Don Simons
By Don Simons (Feb 28, 2012)

Well said, these crops of new P&S cameras must be bewildering for the prospective buyers. Perhaps the marketing people know what they are doing but I am sure a lot of people just switch off.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 28, 2012)

Sony might sell a few hundred of these things altogether in North America. They are probably on their way to follow Kodak's throw-away camera division down the drain, anyhow.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Feb 28, 2012)

Yeah because there are only a few hundred people in the US who would buy a super zoom? God I'm so glad I got the Francis Carver view on these Sony's - I would have been so lost without your knowledge.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Mar 2, 2012)

@ abortabort: You could be be a walking advertisement for abortion, surely. You are clueless otherwise.

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oRBIT2002
By oRBIT2002 (Feb 28, 2012)

Let's hope they've worked on the noise reduction. The earlier DSC-HX9V would have been great if it weren't for the total lack of details.

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coastcontact
By coastcontact (Feb 28, 2012)

Most reviewers say the Panasonic FZ150 is the camera to beat when it comes to IQ. The extras on the Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-HX200V will give me pause before buying the FZ150. That should drive down the Pany price.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 28, 2012)

No.

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KonstantinosK
By KonstantinosK (Feb 28, 2012)

Isn't it less than a year that the DSC-HX100V was released? And we have its successor in less than a year? There's must be some life-cycle-braking record somewhere... By the way, is there going to be a review of the DMC-FZ150 any time? It seems like the only worth considering camera in its class capable of RAW.

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tkpenalty
By tkpenalty (Feb 28, 2012)

All of these lose out to a phone. None of these shoot RAW.
Please make a CX sensor sized compact with a reasonable pixel pitch... or learn from what nokia is doing.

I understand jacking up the megapixel count is a way of preventing cross segment cannibalisation through limiting the increase in image quality, but does sony have to release this many models?

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Mk7
By Mk7 (Feb 28, 2012)

Compact camera makers are feeling the heat from smartphones, and zoom range is one way for them to try to stay relevant. Who needs 18MP? I don't know, but the new nokia phone has 41(!), so evidently the Sony marketing dept. is feeling pressure in the MP race too. These cameras might actually be better with 12MP instead of 18, but most customers aren't saavy enough to know that, so what is Sony to do? Sony Ericsson isn't exactly lighting up the smartphone sales charts. :)

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VLampa
By VLampa (Feb 28, 2012)

Uh, I'm pretty sure these superzooms were conceived and conceptualized and developed long before they heard of the Nokia tech. The reaction to Nokia's newfangled tech would come months later, when the R&D people have put their heads together to think about their next products.

Besides which, Ericsson has actually left Sony to fend for themselves in the phone biz. :D

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (Feb 28, 2012)

Few ordinary releases .... that same old 2.3 sensors with big zoom !!

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