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Just Posted: Six page Nikon D5200 hands-on preview

By dpreview staff on Nov 9, 2012 at 18:41 GMT
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Just Posted: Nikon D5200 in-hand preview. We've been able to spend some time with Nikon's latest mass-market DSLR - the 24MP D5200. At first glance it's nearly indistinguishable from its predecessor, the D5100, but beyond the sensor, it also gains the 39-point AF system and 2,016 pixel metering sensor from the D7000. This represents a significant step up for this class of DSLR. It also has the option to join the 'connected camera' set, with the option of a clip-on Wi-Fi unit. Is this enough to keep the D5200 relevant amongst its smaller mirrorless rivals?

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Total comments: 121
batman1234
By batman1234 (10 months ago)

hi

Please watch my nikon d5200 video test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjzIJ1Hxgxs

1 upvote
Nukunukoo
By Nukunukoo (Nov 19, 2012)

What's intriguing right now is that Nikon has specifically stated that the sensor is different from the D3200... If so, is it from Aptina? The D3200 sensor performance has been quite impressive in many a site test and on a personal note, the noise performance is similar to my 550D. During post-processing however (DxO), the D3200's DR pulls significantly ahead of my Canon's and I'm curious how this slightly bigger sensor on the D5200 fares in these regards.

0 upvotes
GURL
By GURL (Nov 14, 2012)

D5200 will inherit documentation errors from its 5100 predecessor ?

- DPR D5100 specification about AE Bracketing is correct when it says: "3 frames up to +/–2EV" but Nikon manual (depending on which page), most Internet sites and books are not (that +/-2 EV bracketing is useful for HDR only certainly explains this error was not corrected.)

- No matrix metering mode available in Live view mode! In the so called matrix metering mode, camera selected exposure varies widely when moving the red color focus selection square on the LCD screen. For example there is a 5 (five) EV difference when, in Live view mode, I move said focusing red square from the left to the right of the LCD screen without changing the framed area... (quite hopefully the displayed image varies accordingly and most users probably use the exposure correction to compensate for that.)

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GURL
By GURL (Nov 14, 2012)

[...] I would say that Live view, tough it can be used for photos and must be used for video mode, is not properly covered in the D5100 documentation. There are actually three 5100 cameras:
- a viewfinder camera
- a Live view camera
- a video camera
As a result, the writing of the corresponding manual is not an easy task...

An example of wrong documentation is found in page 105 of the Reference manual which says about Live view mode: "To prevent light entering via the viewfinder from interfering with exposure, remove the rubber eye cup and cover the viewfinder with the supplied eyepiece cap before shooting."

Hello Nikon, the above sentence is just wrong WHEN SHOOTING IN LIVE VIEW MODE, you should use a powerful LED lamp to verify that (as I did) !

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JimDoe
By JimDoe (Nov 12, 2012)

Please, D-Preview, switch back to DP-Review!

6 upvotes
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Nov 12, 2012)

Most previews will be turned into reviews - they're the beginning of the process.

No camera reviews were interrupted to make this preview - a lens review might be a few days later than it would have otherwise been, but none of the three camera reviews being worked-on were delayed.

2 upvotes
Heie2
By Heie2 (Nov 17, 2012)

Except a Pentax, of course.

2 upvotes
pami24
By pami24 (Nov 12, 2012)

Yes, this preview was helpfulll because of at this time not published Auto-OSI function. This is a key point for me if compared with the D5100.

1 upvote
KerryBE
By KerryBE (Nov 11, 2012)

Please continue with the previews. We get value out of them.

20 upvotes
Clint Thayer
By Clint Thayer (Nov 10, 2012)

Please stop with the previews. Just wait until you are done with it, and publish. We can wait.

5 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Nov 11, 2012)

DPR has been doing previews for years. When there is a new gear announcement, it's interesting to see what it offers vs the old model. If you don't find it interesting, nobody is forcing you to click.

25 upvotes
kayone
By kayone (Nov 14, 2012)

Please do not tell them how to do their job. Some of us value that they put out an early preview before the full review. If you care so much, please run the site yourself

0 upvotes
Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 10, 2012)

Seriously, when does Nikon starts thinking about furnishing a new kit lens for that sensor. This 18-55 is a bit crappy and starts taking dust. A new, better kit lens could be one more reason for old customers to change to a new body

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Dan W
By Dan W (Nov 10, 2012)

The 18-55 lens is "a bit crappy"? No, the kit lens is sharp (and light). It's a great value imo.

8 upvotes
Nukunukoo
By Nukunukoo (Nov 10, 2012)

If the kit lens that come with the 24MP D3200 is any indicator... um, for that resolution, it IS crappy.

1 upvote
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 10, 2012)

there is an important rule: never buy a camera that has a lens in the package. not only because those lenses could be crap, but most importantly, if they have to give you a lens to a camera body the body itself was made for customers that have no clue about lenses, so they simply wont buy a camera where a part is "missing"

better invest in pro gear and skip two generations than buy consumergear and rebuy the same plastic over and over again

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marike6
By marike6 (Nov 10, 2012)

If you look at the 18-55 VR MFT tests, if actually is one of the better kit lenses (see Photozone) But with resolution increases, you can get extreme corner softness.

But Nikon has tons of excellent DX zooms, and many, like the 18-105 VR, are too much more expensive than the 18-55 VR. The 16-85 VR is a bit more, but superb.

Unless you absolutely must have a zoom, I'd be inclined to use a 35 1.8 or 40 2.8 Macro, 50 1.8G, and 85 1.8G. Grab a Tokina 11.16 2.8 for ultra wide and you'll be set.

4 upvotes
Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 12, 2012)

All what you claim and say is what I know and what I do. But, this is not an excuse to sell those cameras with a high resolution sensor with a kit lens that is not able to follow the resolution needs. So, best is to sell body only and leave people buy a lens to their choice. For sure, you have that option, but, the newbie has the same right to get a lens in the kit that suits the needs of the camera's sensor, and the 18-55VR doesn't. I ow the lens, so I know what's about. And, I ow the sensor as well in my NEX-7. I use all Nikon lenses with adapter and I can tell you that i avoid to publish what the 18-55VR does with it. I use at regular basis the 11-16 and 12-24 Tokina. The 12-24 is up to 98% sharp to all edges in the 4 corners while the 11-16 is a bit softer while sharper in the center as the 12-24. But, the 12-24 remains my favorite lens on the NEX-7.

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Alizarine
By Alizarine (Nov 12, 2012)

because the kit lens is useful for beginners who want to buy into a system, who aren't really aiming to become pro's.

there's this thing called market segmentation...

0 upvotes
Robert Eckerlin
By Robert Eckerlin (Nov 12, 2012)

I agree with Alizarine

Myself (=not a sophisticated photographer), I have a Nikon D5000 and I am potentially interested in a hypothetical future D7100 (not for the amount of Pixels; but for a even better auto-focus, an even better metering, an even better dynamic Range, perhaps also because of an in-camera HDR option, ....).

And I am quite happy for my own purposes with the ***quality*** of the kit lense. I nevertheless bought my D5000 without kit lense but with a 28-200mm Nikor Zoom lense - not because of quality issues with the kit lense but because I want to have and use just one lense without the need to switch often between lenses.

Yes, there is a market segmentation.

0 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Nov 12, 2012)

The body/lens kit vs body only is usually only a $50 difference, so you are essentially getting the 18-55 VR for next to nothing. You can use it at f8 and be happy or pixel-peepers can sell it on Ebay for a profit. Don't see what the big deal is.

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CFynn
By CFynn (Nov 12, 2012)

Remember when 35mm SLR's used to come with a good 50mm prime lens as the "kit lens"?

With these 24mp APS-C cameras maybe Nikon should offer the 35mm 1.8 as a kit lens - it would match the capability of the sensor a bit better.

0 upvotes
gl2k
By gl2k (Nov 10, 2012)

Did I miss something or ...
Why not wait a few days more and add the studio test samples ?
Or is this another (pre)review that comes in small doses ?
Correct me if I'm wrong.

1 upvote
M Lammerse
By M Lammerse (Nov 10, 2012)

It's never good...if it's early it's not good, if it's late it's not good, if it's only a preview it's not good, if the preview is too long it's no good, if the preview is only a few pages it is no good, if it are preview samples only outside a studio it is not good...

They (always) add the studio samples later.

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orishka
By orishka (Nov 10, 2012)

Thank you, M. Lammerse, for your comment. At last someone has the correct answer for these continuously whining sticklers/nagers/carpers/cavillers.

3 upvotes
inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 10, 2012)

@gl2k:
youre wrong

dont type everything down that comes to your mind, especially not in forums, its annoying

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Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 12, 2012)

For me a site like this is made to inform us about new stuff, even if the information is an advanced one and only partial.I find this short review or preview useful and well done. Only thing is that those who claim DPR to be fast on Nikon stuff and late on Pentax for example are right as well. DPR should treat all brands the same way, and it is obvious that they are voracious on Nikon, Canon as second and Fuji and Sony as third, after that comes a larger blackout. The Test of the K30 proves this in a clear way. But, this is not only the case for DPR, other sites do this as well, and it looks sometime like the Canikon stuff was all that is important in this world.

0 upvotes
Paradigm Changer
By Paradigm Changer (Nov 10, 2012)

How interesting is that... other cameras have to wait half a year to get reviewed, and as soon as the latest Canikon comes out, there's a six page "spread" on it the day after. Why don't we just kill all the other manufacturers and close this site down? Not much need for reviews then... Short-sighted much?

13 upvotes
HDF2
By HDF2 (Nov 10, 2012)

It's quite simple, really. If the order and time frame within which DPReview puts out its work (FREE to you) on selected cameras is offensive to your sensibilities, start your own review website.

You can then bring out reviews of cameras and brands in any order and time frame that assuages the stress you are being put under by DPReviews editorial time lines.

8 upvotes
emtx
By emtx (Nov 10, 2012)

@HDF2
I joined this web in order to get info, believing in this hub. So my sensitivities are also questioned. Its more about feedback I suppose.
Websites like this are powerful marketing, so free to me, to you...? We shape our "shopping ideas" based on info and speed of info which comes to us.... That would be somewhere in book of marketing basics.

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HDF2
By HDF2 (Nov 10, 2012)

emtx
Marketing basics: product reviews are indirect marketing that can be good or bad for a product depending on the outcome. DPR is not a marketing company, though some of their activities can translate into marketing for manufacturers (e.g. posting a product launch report).

DPR has to take limited resources (which we didn't pay for) and apply them in a way that allows them to meet their objectives - which I am fairly certain is not marketing for someone else.

DPR must choose how to invest its TIME to review/preview products (a resource limited in supply based on the amount of workers they have, and pay for - Economics 101)

Given scarce resources, where do you think it makes the most sense to spend them? In products with limited market appeal (the reason for the limited market appeal is irrelevant) or those that will appeal to the broadest market bringing in the most views?

It requires a balance, but it is never going to be in favor of some obscure or small market share brands.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Nov 10, 2012)

There's a whole lot more to it.

In order to get a quick review... three different things need to happen at the same time. Like a "perfect storm."

1. It must be a camera that a lot of readers are interested in
2. A copy must be available for Dpreview to test
3. Dpreview must have the labor available to test it.

The one factor that really doesn't matter is "Amazon sells it" because Amazon will gladly sell you any camera made. And they will make a profit on it, no matter which brand it is.

Dpreview has absolutely no incentive to push one brand over the other, and even if they wanted to do this, it would only destroy their credibility.

If they review a lot of Canons and Nikons... it might be because those companies combine for an 80% market share.

3 upvotes
racketman
By racketman (Nov 10, 2012)

not true of all Canikon cameras, I still await the 1DMKIII review.

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Paradigm Changer
By Paradigm Changer (Nov 10, 2012)

@Marty4650: Market share should have nothing to do with it. I come here for impartial reviews. If I want to know market share, I can look up the sales rank on amazon.

@HDF2: "Free to you." Not really because there's advertising *and* they're owned by amazon, as Marty rightly points out. This would make one naturally sceptical, especially considering that margins will differ between camera models!

@emtx: Right on.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Nov 11, 2012)

"Market share" means who sells the most units.

Whoever sell the most units has the most customers, and therefore the most Dpreveiew readers. This is why there are six Nikon forums here, five canon forums here and only two for Pentax and Olympus.

Dpreview is a business that wants more more people visiting this site so they can charge more for advertising here. They would be crazy to NOT give some priority to the most popular brands.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Nov 11, 2012)

Reviews of the popular brands are of value to more readers. All the people (many) who are already considering buying the latest Canikon model come here to see how it rates. If the review is up quickly, more readers benefit, and so does dpr. I guarantee 'Minor Brand Camera Reviews' would not prosper, however educational it might be to a small number of enthusiasts.

2 upvotes
Paradigm Changer
By Paradigm Changer (Nov 11, 2012)

@Marty6450 and MarkInSF: It's really sad that neither of you seem to realise you are directly arguing against the purpose of a review site, and making yourselves pawns of the Canikon marketing departments. Keep going just like that, they love you guys. And your carelessly spent money.

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Nov 12, 2012)

@Paradigm Changer

No one is anyone's pawns. It is not DPRs fault the market is dominated by Nikon and Canon but it is and they would be stupid to pretend other wise. Why is it so hard for you to understand that it is in DPRs best interest to cover the cameras that have the widest audience first. It is also better for their readers if DPR covers the cameras most of them are interested first.

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emtx
By emtx (Nov 16, 2012)

@ HDF2 and MARTY

Nikon D5200 is mid range camera according to Nikon.co.uk and Nikon,cz and not entry level with amazing something....

Undirect marketing is one of the best marketing you can do in this case.

If you are independent you do not care who sells most cameras, you focus on best what is out there. At it might be Nikon, Pentax or Smena.

If you are based on market behaviour, you are biased. I am sorry.

If you talk about irrelevant market share of camera brand - you talk about irrelevant brand - thats statement with emotional quality - therefor non objective, therefor biased.

PS: look also for another reaction and also from Nikon users.

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Couscousdelight
By Couscousdelight (Nov 10, 2012)

(...)This represents a significant step up for this class of DSLR. (...)
It's funny to see that you didn't make the same statement about the K30, which offers more than a d5200...

For example for the K30 test, you wrote :
(...)Other than that the layout of the camera's top-controls is fairly standard, with an exposure compensation button behind the shutter button, and both front and rear control dials.(...)

Two dials controls are standards on a sub 1000$ camera ? Really ? ;)

(...)the K-30 offers a large and bright viewfinder image that is on par with its peers in the enthusiast DSLR bracket of the market. (...)
100% K30's viewfinder is on par with it's sub 1000$ peers ? Seriously ? :)

So, a camera with two dials , weather sealing and a 100% viewfinder is on par with sub 1000$ cameras, but the D5200 is a signifant step up for this class of DSLR...

???

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Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (Nov 10, 2012)

Even as a Nikon owner I reacted in the same way, K-30 biggest and only fault is that it does not say Canon or Nikon on it. How come that it did not win gold in its class considering what it offers is beyond me and many out there.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

A camera with an antiquated AF system with 11 AF points vs Nikons 39 ... or Nikons superior video? .. or a higher resolution sensor?.... or maybe the irrelevancy of Pentax in general? ;)

Naww.. I think DPR got it right.

11 upvotes
Couscousdelight
By Couscousdelight (Nov 10, 2012)

Nightwings, when i compare the pictures i can achieve with my irrelevant Pentax stuff to your pics made with some amazing Nikon cameras,i am confident about the Pentax quality :)

Thank you for the good laugh anyway !

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Revenant
By Revenant (Nov 10, 2012)

"is on par with its peers in the enthusiast DSLR bracket of the market."

DPR were comparing K-30 to enthusiast-level cameras like 60D, D7000 and K-5. D5200 is an upper entry-level camera, and is not considered one of K-30's peers.

"So, a camera with two dials , weather sealing and a 100% viewfinder is on par with sub 1000$ cameras, but the D5200 is a signifant step up for this class of DSLR..."

No, it's on par with enthusiast-level cameras. D5200 is entry-level, and represents a step up for that class.

I think the low price of the K-30 confuses many people into thinking it belongs in the same class as D5200 and the Canon Rebels, but feature-wise it really belongs to the enthusiast bracket, which was what DPR meant by its peers.

5 upvotes
garyknrd
By garyknrd (Nov 10, 2012)

Amazing, I own Pentax and Canon and Nightwings you are exactly right. No contest. I am hoping Ricoh does a good job. But these guys that comment on the superiority of Pentax is just wrong. To the customer and to Pentax in general.

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djorgji
By djorgji (Nov 10, 2012)

Price wise, the K30 is almost in the same leagues as the D5200 (D5200 being more expensive).

Thus you cannot compare the K30 to much more expensive cameras like D60, 7D or D7000. The K-5 is meant to compete with those cameras.

Instead, in the K30 you get a large view finder, dual control wheels, weather sealing, in body stabilization and the flexibility of using both lithium proprietary battery and AA batteries.

Regarding AF, dpreview says "Autofocus acquisition is usually extremely fast and positive, with both Pentax' SDM models and conventional lenses.".

1 upvote
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

@Couscousdelight
I suppose if one is patient.. one can achieve good results... even with a pinhole came. I have no such patience. On the otherhand, when I care what you think of my mostly test shots in my gallery.... OR.... conversly... when I care about your "shots" .. I'll be sure to let you know. Until then.. be careful not to choke on your own laughter.

2 upvotes
emtx
By emtx (Nov 10, 2012)

@ nightwing
If you really wanna shoot quality video, get a real video camera or at least 5d Mark II. Well, are you shooting pro movies, which gets pro display that you need Full HD 50/60fps (and I do not mean Full HD TV or beamer in living room)
I class cameras for what they cost. In other words I look for what I get for money. So 5200 is upper entry, 3200 is lower entry and D 7000 is? So far I had feeling that 3200 is entry, 5100 is mid and D 7000 is advanced. (That would make a common sense.)
If I am correct 5200 has only 9 cross types AF points...exactly like K 30. Antiquated in both case. Wonder what you are shooting that phase detect in 6fps/continuous 9 Raw of Pentax would not be enough. Are you all sport profi photographers?
Look at flexibility Raw files of K 30 and compare shots of KIIs with Canon 5D mark III.....

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

@garyknrd

It must some sort of inferiority complex with some of these folks.. to trot out everytime a new Nikon is announced. Oh well, not everyone is comfortable in their own skin I guess. :)

1 upvote
Couscousdelight
By Couscousdelight (Nov 10, 2012)

Ok,i read my previous comment now, this is stupid and i regret to have posted that.
Sorry about that Nightwings, i have no excuse. If i could edit, i'll remove it.
Maybe a moderator can remove my previous comment ?

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

There is NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE for good hearted bantering. After all the progress the internet has given us .. we are still relegated to text communications where one can not see inside the writers heart or see his face. I am guilty of provocative posts, but rest assured most are done tongue in cheek and/or dry humor. :) There's no need to apologize, and yes, I am aware that some of my non-test shots (some would argue more) are amateurish ... which is fine by me.. as I am an amateur enthusiast. Most of what I shoot is people/family anyway… which I never post on the internet.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

@emtx

I agree.. a dedicated video camera is the best solution overall. I use a Sony. But I am quite happy with the results I get with my D7000 and my Daughters D5100. I've been shooting video since the mid 80's ... NOT AS A PROFESSIONAL .. but I've come to learn good technique. The reason why I like the DSLR videos is because of the lenses and bokeh I can get from staged shots. I rarely employ zoom in my videos .. I usually have the subjects stay on mark as I shoot (mostly family and family events).

Back on topic, I'm pleased that the D5200 has stereo mics .. If I were to own that camera, I'd take advantage of it often when I didn't feel like taking my mounted or wireless mics along.

Cheers!

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Couscousdelight
By Couscousdelight (Nov 10, 2012)

@Nightwings
Well, too late, i'll not retire my appologies :)

Sometimes, camera related stuff makes me a little bit enraged and outragious... But hey, i'm a Pentax user, and if i don't want to have to sell all my lenses because of a hypothetical Pentax's bankruptcy, i have to convert some new guys to Pentax..
I mean, if the Pentax crowd doesn't make some advertising for that brand, who gonna make it ? Pentax themself ? :)

But you should definitively try a K30 or a K5 with a good lens mounted on it, it's really not that bad.

Best regards, et bonnes photos à vous !

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

@Couscousdelight

Thank you, I appreciate your comments.
I did try the K-5 and was unhappy with it. I loved the colors but the AF/Exposure inconsistencies I experienced forced me to abandon the brand.

I don't think you need to worry about Pentax now, I'm sure Ricoh will nurture it.

il a été un plaisir de parler avec vous

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marike6
By marike6 (Nov 10, 2012)

The 100% Pentaprism VF, class leading IQ and high ISO, and dual command alone make the K-30 a better camera than the D3100 or T3i class of camera for photography. Add weather sealing you have a blowout for the K-30. The slightly lower video specs of the K-30 is not enough to keep it from a Gold Award, IMHO.

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disasterpiece
By disasterpiece (Nov 11, 2012)

K-30's lower price is, I think, just a result of Pentax' smaller market share. In this way of thought, Nikon and Canon are, in a way, with more freedom to make whatever they want and sell it at whatever price they decide. So if the same K-30 was Canon or Nikon-branded, it would have been with a way higher price tag, wouldn't it?

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Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 12, 2012)

My Nikon D40 has only 3 AF points and guess what, I never missed on shot with it, focusing is perfect in all situations, choosing right, left or center. This 50 and more focusing point stuff is all you dream about, the time you need to set the point where you want sharpness, the caravan has passed by and the dogs keep barking.
Seems to me that you all shoot portrait or publicity set-ups for the local supermarket pub folder.

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Alizarine
By Alizarine (Nov 12, 2012)

How do you define a camera's class anyway? By specs, by model level, or price?

In the case of Pentax's lineup (currently, there are, AGAIN, only TWO in production, the IIs is just an alternate)

The K-30 stands for every Canon and Nikon model below the 7D and D7000.

2 upvotes
senn_b
By senn_b (Nov 10, 2012)

how come my comment's disappeared about this ? ,, .. what was wrong with it ?..

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Nov 10, 2012)

Your comment is in the preview, where you left it. (Not this news story about the preview).

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senn_b
By senn_b (Nov 10, 2012)

indeed, .. thanks R Butler

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Airless
By Airless (Nov 9, 2012)

Is a 6-page preview really necessary for a camera that is the same as the D5100 except it added last year's 24 MP Sony sensor and the two-year-old D7000's autofocus?

2 upvotes
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Nov 9, 2012)

It depends. If you don't currently have a DSLR, then the likelihood is that you'll want to know as much as possible about this and the Canon EOS 650D.

It's not very exciting if you've followed the progress of Nikon models but it has a lot of features that used to only come in $1200 cameras, in a sub-$1000 camera so, if you're looking for a new camera, it's probably rather interesting.

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nicolaiecostel
By nicolaiecostel (Nov 10, 2012)

@R.Butler: responded like a sir !

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marike6
By marike6 (Nov 10, 2012)

Responded like a gentleman. But I'm not sure why he bothered considering the absurdity of the complaint. DPR is a free website. If people don't like the content they don't have to click, but I'm certain that Nikon users and camera aficionados alike enjoy these previews. Besides, DPR always incorporates Preview content in their Full Reviews. It's beyond me why anyone not paying for the bandwidth would object.

7 upvotes
yudhir
By yudhir (Nov 10, 2012)

responded like a boss.

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VivaLasVegas
By VivaLasVegas (Nov 9, 2012)

Hopefully, with god's grace, this little SLR will become the first Nikon to be trouble free(leaking oil, soft left eyeball AF, flimsy doors, green LCD, unconfident AF system....etc). Also, hopefully they figured out high ISO DR after implementing so many generation of various sensor designs in(D3200, D5200, D600, D800, D4) and from third vendors.......Come on Nikon, I'm cheering for you, you can finally BEAT Canon's ancient 10 years old sensory tech in 100% crop side by side comparison. Go Nikon, Go Nikon, Go Nikon.....you can do it!

1 upvote
intensity studios
By intensity studios (Nov 9, 2012)

worst attempt at trolling EVER

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marike6
By marike6 (Nov 9, 2012)

Wow, you sound miserable as a Canon user. Photography can't be fun for you if you spend SO much time worrying about competitors offerings.

As far a trouble free my D800 has zero problems and outperforms my previous Canon 5D2 in every way. With the D800, D4 and D600 Nikon has 3 straight home runs.

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Shunda77
By Shunda77 (Nov 9, 2012)

Lol! catch up to Canon's sensors indeed. Did you know that a drawing of the Canon 18mp sensor was discovered inside one of the pyramids at Giza?

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Corwess
By Corwess (Nov 10, 2012)

@ Shunda77
Beste Comment ever! As a Canon Fanboy i consider buying a Nikon next to my Gear.
And im gonna post this comment on Facebook!
"Did you know that a drawing of the Canon 18mp sensor was discovered inside one of the pyramids at Giza?"

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

".....to be trouble free(leaking oil, soft left eyeball AF, flimsy doors, green LCD, unconfident AF system....etc)"

Sounds like your copy of your chosen Nikon fell off the truck and rolled several times. My recently purchased D5100 and D7000 prior to that work fine. :)

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Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 10, 2012)

"Sounds like your copy of your chosen Nikon fell off the truck and rolled several times. My recently purchased D5100 and D7000 prior to that work fine. :)"

It seems to me that so many Nikon cameras fall off from the truck in those days. Go and read user comments, look comments at sellers, like Adorama, for example. I had good working and flawless Nikon cameras, but I got also a few that where replaced after a few returns of the same body. Considering Nikon prices, this can happen, but not as much as it does.

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carlosdelbianco
By carlosdelbianco (Nov 9, 2012)

Got my D5100 yesterday for US$429.00, which may be half of the price of its successor. Why not just go for the D7000 instead of D5200? Just thinking...

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Nov 9, 2012)

Because the D5200 price will always drop (just as the D5100's did from its initial price of $899 with kit lens).

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carlosdelbianco
By carlosdelbianco (Nov 9, 2012)

Yeah, true that. The D7000 can be found for US$789.00 (body only) and would be my choice if I needed an upgrade. A lot of people might disagree due to its new sensor. The D5200 looks like a great package anyway, something Canon... Well, nevermind.

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marike6
By marike6 (Nov 9, 2012)

Carlos, $789 is almost surely a refurbished model. You can however get a brand new D7000 now for around $950, as it has a $200 instant rebate on it.

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Nov 9, 2012)

You can play this game all day.....Why not get a D90, D80, or maybe even a Film camera with 50 rolls of film for $300 bucks. The D5200 is a new camera and new cameras almost always sell at retail for 4-6 months.

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intensity studios
By intensity studios (Nov 9, 2012)

thanks for sharing, bro! cool story!
The D5200 has new features, which is why it cost more!

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Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 9, 2012)

You pay new features eternally. All I need is a viewfinder, a correct lens and the button to press on for shooting. On the back I want a focusing area selection, focusing mode selection and a navigation pad. All the remaining like inside rework and fancy modes is for me crap i pay for and never use. I do not even need a preview of my shot, I never look at them. I can anyway shoot 50 or more shots of the same subject with different settings, it cost nothing more. Photo cameras are following the same path than Microsoft Word text editor, you pay a lot, you pay a lot, and you use a little bit. I call that waste money.

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russbarnes
By russbarnes (Nov 9, 2012)

It's clear that more and more that even these lowly offerings from Nikon look better than cameras many times their price from Canon. I'm willing to bet the image quality out of this is BETTER than the grossly overpriced 5DIII. Wait a couple of months and the 5200 will look like an incredible bargain...

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chlamchowder
By chlamchowder (Nov 9, 2012)

Maybe at low ISOs, but at high ISOs, any modern full frame camera is going to have an edge over any APS-C camera.

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Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 9, 2012)

they will, that is simple to explain, a 36 mpix FF has the same basic resolution as a 18 mpix APSC. If Sony was concentrating today on developing a new 12 mpix APSC device, it would be as good and even better than a 24 mpix FF in high ISO ranges. Wait till the 52 mpix sensor from Sony sees the day, that will be soon, and you will see that high ISO range is comparable to today's 24 mpix APSC chip. There are physical limits, we can do better ASIC soft, but there will remain physical limits, and cheating has it's limits too.

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marike6
By marike6 (Nov 9, 2012)

Let's not get carried away. The 5DIII is still a quality FF still camera, and also a wonderful video camera. I agree about the price, but let's be fair.

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russbarnes
By russbarnes (Nov 10, 2012)

I beg to differ. I'm ready and willing to take that challenge - I bet I can produce a real world image from a 5200 and a 5DIII from an idenical scene and no one on here will be able to tell the difference.

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EDWARD ARTISTE
By EDWARD ARTISTE (Nov 10, 2012)

That's a pretty foolhardy challenge. the logic is just not there. Fail.

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russbarnes
By russbarnes (Nov 10, 2012)

Wow, you're truly a gear sucker Edward. If you can't make a high quality artistic image with a camera like the 5200 with a latest sensor, you need some photography lessons. I run some workshops you might want to sign up to... What is even funnier is you appear to shoot with the Canon 7D. Do you also believe that you could tell the side by side difference between that and the 5DIII? lol. I suggest you save your money if you're thinking about upgrading.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Nov 9, 2012)

"For video shooters the D5200 can record Full HD 1920 x 1080 movies at up to 60i or 50i (when set to NTSC and PAL respectively), although this uses a central crop of the sensor area (~1.25x)."

So for video shooters it's sensor is as big as m43, and the crop factor is the same. Thanks for heads up!

How Sony is able to work with the whole sensor in NEX-7, A65 and A77?

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intensity studios
By intensity studios (Nov 9, 2012)

You're actually wrong on all counts... NO SOUP FOR YOU!!

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Nov 9, 2012)

The D5100's video AF function was a big sluggish and emitted a zip or scratch sound picked up by the audio. Is the D5200 any different?

The built-in intervalometer is a nice feature.

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (Nov 9, 2012)

AF noises during video mainly are dependent on the lens, not the camera. If you really want fast, silent AF during video, you probably shouldn't be buying an SLR.

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John Koch
By John Koch (Nov 12, 2012)

Aren't some lenses designed to have "silent AF"? How about the newer lens sold with the T4i? Or how about various lenses for the mirrorless models? Couldn't a DSLR have silent AF while in video mode? Why was the D5100's video AF not silent?

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Alberto Tanikawa
By Alberto Tanikawa (Nov 9, 2012)

My small Canon ZR-600 camcorder had buttons and a small joystick built into the swiveling screen that I found very useful back in the day. I think the D5200 could've benefited from that.

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fdfgdfgdgf
By fdfgdfgdgf (Nov 9, 2012)

From press release "following the D5000 and the D5100, the Nikon D5200 offers a massive leap in image-quality"

So the sensor that was introduce in Sep 2010 with overall DXO 80 score is replaced with a new one that will be a generation ahead. It should reach almost FF performance in order to stand the claim "massive leap"

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Nov 9, 2012)

You're saying a press release contains hyperbole?

I'll investigate immediately.

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fdfgdfgdgf
By fdfgdfgdgf (Nov 9, 2012)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/11/06/nikon-announces-nikon-d5200

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (Nov 9, 2012)

Looks like the possibly-hyperbolic press release is still resolutely where we put it then

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photo_oasis
By photo_oasis (Nov 9, 2012)

The D5000 DXO score I'm reading (http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Nikon/D5000) is 72, D5100 scored 80. If D5200 offers a "massive leap" over its predecessors, the score should be at least between 82 (D3s) and 89 (D4). Let's see if D5200 holds its claims.

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Shamael
By Shamael (Nov 9, 2012)

The sensor is basically the same as the NEX-7 sensor. Nikon has the choice to order them with different managing features. All depends of how they use the pipelining features of the sensor. Remember D200, that, despite it was the same sensor as D60, had a different managing of the data. D200 used the RGB and B&W separately and the image was a ton better, but it could not prevent noise to show up beyond 800 ISO. You can get a better and more accurate color spectrum by that, better sharpness, but you can't affect noise with it, and, the 24 mpix Sony APSC sensor is a noisy sensor. All is about how good the cheating Expeed3 soft is to reduce visible noise, or better said, to hide it.

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Boldarli
By Boldarli (Nov 10, 2012)

Thank you Richard Butler and Andy Westlake for your comments.

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Alizarine
By Alizarine (Nov 12, 2012)

Any manufacturer will put such words in an official press release.

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Reilly Diefenbach
By Reilly Diefenbach (Nov 9, 2012)

The best DX camera in the world so far? Probably.

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io_bg
By io_bg (Nov 9, 2012)

Doubt it. It still lacks in ergonomics.

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djorgji
By djorgji (Nov 9, 2012)

I think the Pentax K30 is a more complete package.

We still have to see the performance of the sensor whereas the 16mpx the K30 uses is a well proven one (K-5; D7000).

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nicolaiecostel
By nicolaiecostel (Nov 10, 2012)

Lol, does it focus or will we have to wait for the K30 II, two years from now ?

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Nov 10, 2012)

@nicolaiecostel
My thoughts exactly - 50 gazillion weather seals and 25 dials and buttons on a camera mean nothing to me if the camera can AF and expose consistently.

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (Nov 10, 2012)

Naah..! I'd get the original... Sony A77, with the awesome OLED EVF as a bonus!

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 10, 2012)

nope, the d300s is the best dx cam

a77 is no dslr if it has an oled evf, if youre interested in dslrs you for sure dont want an evf ^^

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justmeMN
By justmeMN (Nov 9, 2012)

In the mean time, with the exception of adding some autofocus pixels, the sensor of the Canon T4i/650D is three years old. Nikon seems to be moving faster than Canon.

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Retzius
By Retzius (Nov 9, 2012)

There also the touch screen... once youve used it you realize that this is the way to go. People are so used to touch screen phones now they intuitively start navigating the T4i with little to no help

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chlamchowder
By chlamchowder (Nov 9, 2012)

The touch screen isn't a magic bullet. Keeping the screen on drains battery power, and the touchscreen can't be seen or used with the camera up to your eye. With a heavy lens attached (one that you want to support with your left hand), using the touch screen requires you to leave the shooting position.

Four way controllers and interactive screens are already very intuitive, and well placed buttons allow far faster access to settings. I don't think many people would value a touch screen more than better autofocus and image quality.

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Retzius
By Retzius (Nov 9, 2012)

You have to consider the target market for this camera. The Rebel is for soccer moms and dads and people stepping up from the camera phone. The touch screen is what they know and keeps them in their comfort zone. It decreases the intimidation factor of the dslr. BTW, let me tell you, it is way faster than buttons and dials. Why navigate to a button and select it when you can just touch it?

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Retzius
By Retzius (Nov 9, 2012)

Dont believe me? Here is what DPReview says:

"It should be clear already that we're quite impressed with Canon's touchscreen implementation on the 650D. The screen is responsive, supports common smartphone-style gestures and has been integrated with the icon design in a way that makes touchscreen use both intuitive, and in many cases more efficient the the camera's traditional controls... ...Even if you're not a smartphone aficionado, the touchscreen can, in many instances offer a faster way to work.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Nov 9, 2012)

The "target market" must be people who follow the pre-Slavonic or Babylonian calendar, which observed year-end festivities in what would now be February. Otherwise, why would Nikon announce the camera now, but not sell it in the US until 2013, and completely miss out on December sales?

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chlamchowder
By chlamchowder (Nov 9, 2012)

I agree that the touch screen can be useful.
However, I don't see the touch screen as a big enough factor to counter the D5100's superior sensor and autofocus.

Also, note that the reception to smartphones and other touch screen devices has not been entirely positive (especially for people with big fingers). And about the intimidation factor...having a touch screen won't help if the user isn't familiar with what the settings on the screen do.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 10, 2012)

a touchscreen on an slr, cute ^^

and i thought the cool thing on a dslr is that, because of the ovf, it runs almost in standby mode, even when turned on ,until the moment you press the shutter, then saves the pic and goes back to standby again.

edit: sorry i was talking about batterylife

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Retzius
By Retzius (Nov 9, 2012)

The sensor better pretty damn impressive to even consider upgrading from the D5100 considering the cost difference...

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SHood
By SHood (Nov 9, 2012)

A big improvement with continuous AF. If you don't need that then stick with your D5100.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Nov 9, 2012)

Where are the continuous AF improvements discussed or illustrated? Does this encompass the video mode?

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Deeso
By Deeso (Nov 10, 2012)

Retzius. How many people upgrade their cameras to the next new model? Most usually skip one or two generations before thinking of buying a new body.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Nov 10, 2012)

why on earth would someone upgrade from a 5100 to a 5200 ??

AT LEAST skip a generation. its an slr, its made for a lifetime^^ why would you buy in the same class anyway?

people are so used to replace perfectly working gear nowadays i dont get it anymore ^^

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