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Just deployed: New dpreview.com forums system

By dpreview staff on Oct 3, 2012 at 21:29 GMT

We've just deployed the redesigned forum system - the biggest single change we've made since our forums were created, over 13 years ago. As discussed in an earlier news post, the new software will closely match the behavior of the existing system but with a range of additional features and with scope for further expansion in the future. We've sifted through the feedback from the preview announcement we made last week and have developed a list of requested features that we will start working on.

Existing feedback:

From our first round of feedback we have identified a series of features that we will be implementing in the coming weeks and months, including:

  • 'm.forums' mobile-device-friendly version of the forums
  • Alternative colorschemes / skins
  • 'Ignore thread' option
  • 'Mark as read' option for threads
  • Additional requested tweaks and improvements

But we've listened to all the feedback and will continue to add features and behavioral adjustments.

Clarification on user moderation:

We would also like to make a clarification about community moderation and the role of down-voting in the new forums. When we talk about community moderation, we are referring to a group of hand-picked moderators who have volunteered from within the forums communities and whose actions will be overseen, not simply entrusting moderation to up- and down-voting. We will also be working very carefully when setting thresholds for any systems based on voting so that they can't be easily rigged. These systems will not be introduced until we think they can be introduced in a way that truly benefits the community.

More features coming

In addition to the requested tweaks and feature additions that were requested in the first round of feedback, there are a series of features that the new system will allow us to add. These include:

  • User reviews
  • User articles / blog posts
  • User polls
  • Better filtering (time / date ranges ...)
  • Trending / hot stuff page
  • Better integration with product pages (ability to ask / see questions on product pages...)

More feedback wanted

However, we know that a change this big will inevitably have a few teething troubles and features that need to be fine-tuned, so we're looking for feedback on any bugs you spot or changes you think have to be made. Please send your feedback using this webform, where they will be monitored to help make the new forums as enjoyable as possible.

Comments

Total comments: 736
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Rockchan
By Rockchan (Oct 4, 2012)

I personally don't think there should be down ranking. Since each forum will have certain number of Fanboys, any negative comments on the brand may lead to quite a lot of down rank (even if these comments are fact, reasonable and useful to other people to make purchase decision).

I am fine to have down ranking system in a general forum. However, since individual dpreview forum is quite focus on one brand (or particular models), the down ranking system will be use by Fanboys to attack others. We cannot expect there will be enough people to support the negative comment. This is because Fanboys may work hard to defend the brand but other people is not likely to have such passion.

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
3 upvotes
nawknai
By nawknai (Oct 4, 2012)

I'm OK with downranking because, quite frankly, there aren't THAT many fanboys in the Fuji forum that I post in, even the people whom, at first glance, seem like fanboys due to their extreme "glass is half full" attitude.

I'll accept a negative argument against my favourite camera, as long as the reasoning is OK.

0 upvotes
Jim B (MSP)
By Jim B (MSP) (Oct 4, 2012)

My ability to show a photo via a link to an external database like Pbase has been taken away.
A lot of us use these external sites for our photos.

Jim

4 upvotes
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 4, 2012)

Yes but then we've only been waiting (how many years) for them to increase the 1000 image limit to our gallery.

I guess it's a ploy to save bandwidth...

1 upvote
larrytusaz
By larrytusaz (Oct 4, 2012)

I just noticed this too, I am NOT liking that at all. Hopefully it gets changed.

1 upvote
DRode
By DRode (Oct 4, 2012)

I've only used the new software for a few minutes but so far, I'm impressed. It work great and seems to work well.

0 upvotes
mm1975
By mm1975 (Oct 4, 2012)

I dont like the new interface - I liked the old one. But who knows maybe I'll get used to it.

1 upvote
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 4, 2012)

Posted photos from peoples galleries don't render to full resolutions like they used to ... That is a MAJOR bummer for me who likes to expand some shots to their highest resolutions. Now in order to do that, we have to divert from the post and go into the persons gallery.

I preferred the white text on black background ... or at the very least offer up a choice. AND offer up a choice of displayed fonts/sizes.

I like the fact that you can withdraw your post.

There was..... one other thing...... hmmmmm.

Oh Yeah! Thanks for renaming the Nikon forums. However, I think you guys should have went for the:

Nikon DX Camera Talk
Nikon FX Camera Talk

and NOT have divided the various formats into sub catagories .... You are already starting to catch flack for that. (Not by be... I'm must pointing it out)

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4 upvotes
Stephenbw
By Stephenbw (Oct 4, 2012)

I like the changes but their are some bugs.

Links, even to other DPReview pages, don't appear to be working.

Viewing in 'Flat View' is not retained after posting in a thread but defaults to 'Threaded View' which is a little annoying.

0 upvotes
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 4, 2012)

"Some bugs" ! I think we're Beta testing it for them.

1 upvote
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 4, 2012)

It's just a miserable experience now, can anyone recommend another decent photography forum now that this one's taken a nose dive down the sewer?

It's like viewing a web site optimised for a mobile phone now.

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
7 upvotes
Stephenbw
By Stephenbw (Oct 4, 2012)

Rather a melodramatic response to a few changes in the appearance of a free photography forum. The content will still be the same.

I for one am happy that I can now use the forums as easily on my iPod as I can on my iMac.

1 upvote
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 4, 2012)

The old forum worked fine on my android, I guess some people like to live in the past with their apple products.

2 upvotes
John King
By John King (Oct 4, 2012)

Gidday All at DPReview

By and large a good job.

Firstly, I notice that BBCode in footers of new messages is not being honoured, nor is there a facility to use the WYSIWYG editor in editing one's profile.

Secondly, links to external galleries and images in one's footer block (for new messages) do not work, with or without the "www." prefix.

Thirdly, almost all my images have EXIF data intact (it's why I don't use Olympus s/w for editing at all - it strips the metadata from 16 bit files ... ). That EXIF data does not display here now under any view.

Fourthly, there is no direct link back to the home forum from within the "FORUMS" view in one's profile pages.

While you are at it, the "GEAR" list feature is all but useless (and always has been ... ) for those of us who have more than one camera and one or two lenses ... Check out the list I have under "PROFILE/ABOUT ME", for example. There needs to be some method of importing a block of text straight into one's gear list; otherwise, it just stays where it is ...

Interesting that moderators here need training.
I am a moderator on another, unrelated subject site, and no training was given there, or needed?

kindest regards, and keep up the good work - feed your squirrels! -

John

0 upvotes
njlarsen
By njlarsen (Oct 4, 2012)

Seeing this live I realized one thing I did not notice on the test image above: when opening a forum looking at a bunch of threads, it is very easy to read who started the thread, and quite difficult to read what the topic is. Please switch so that poster is blue and thread title is WHITE!

Niels

0 upvotes
PhotoKhan
By PhotoKhan (Oct 4, 2012)

If we opt for the "Collapsed" view mode, instead of the "Expended" there is no indication of the poster's identity for each thread. Is it supposed to be so?

2 upvotes
PhotoKhan
By PhotoKhan (Oct 4, 2012)

Great..with my luck I had to post on the Canon 1D/5D/6D forum EXACTLY as the new format was being deployed.
It returned an "error" message, still in the previous format and I went and posted again, already under the new format.
Result? Double post.
Can one of you, DPR associates, go there and remove the 1st post (the non formated one)?
Thanks!
PK

0 upvotes
onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 4, 2012)

Don't expect you to do it now, of course, but perhaps an idea for the future that would help please a lot of people - you might in user settings provide a subset of the CSS and allow users to edit it, and then source that when browsing. Not everyone would be interested in that, but some would probably appreciate it a lot, as they could customize colors, fonts, etc. to their hearts's desire. You could of course also provide a button "return to defaults".

What do you think, guys?

3 upvotes
andrew turner
By andrew turner (Oct 4, 2012)

Like the look but harsh on an iPad.

Also, on iPad, a little info window stays open that indicates the last thread viewed, I think... annoying.

0 upvotes
A Girard
By A Girard (Oct 4, 2012)

Is it me since I can no longer see who the author of each post?

2 upvotes
OnTheWeb
By OnTheWeb (Oct 4, 2012)

Hit the expand button near the top.

0 upvotes
jpr2
By jpr2 (Oct 3, 2012)

It does seem that embedding images hosted on other (than DPR) sites is now broken.

Also, how one is supposed to type with a single-line spacing in the WYSIWYG editing window??? Which as turns out is also
the way (double spaced) message is displayed after posting :(.
Readability does suffer - hopefully this is just a bug.

Is there a way to hide user signatures while reading?

0 upvotes
Richard Shih
By Richard Shih (Oct 4, 2012)

re: images - looking into it.

re: single-spacing - press SHIFT + ENTER to enter a regular line break. Although if you're going to use two line breaks to denote paragraphs, why not just hit ENTER once and let the system do it for you?

re: signatures - We're currently fixing a bug where too much of the content below the signature is being gobbled up. Thanks for your patience.

0 upvotes
karlreed
By karlreed (Oct 3, 2012)

Don't like it...

1. The presentation is less dense, and, to see all the forums, one now has to scroll. This is a HUGE NEGATIVE, and a major HCI blunder!

2. Don't care about the rankings..

3.Lack of NEW indicators a serious loss.

4. My major beef with the original was that a real AI based serach engine was needed.

5. Maybe a multiple windowing view of a large forum was also needed..

Otherwise, I don't know why you bothered.. sorry to be so negative.

Karl Reed

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 4, 2012)

Honestly then why did you post if only to be a negative nancy? I find it's the things that "shock" me when they arise that end up being the best in the end like new songs, new formats, new presentation. People just don't like change.. try to work on that!

1 upvote
sderdiarian
By sderdiarian (Oct 4, 2012)

Great, here's a cattle prod, shocking enough?

Seriously, any way to get Forum Classic?

1 upvote
Richard Shih
By Richard Shih (Oct 4, 2012)
  1. We'll look into providing a collapsed view of the forums index, though an expanded view is much friendlier to new visitors to the forums since they'll be able to read what products go where. That will also cut down on the noise with ambiguous products (Micro 4/3rds in which forum?). Major UX win.

  2. We're working on better indicating what's been new since you last visited, though in the meantime you have posts listed in most recently updated first, as well as the read icons on the left.

0 upvotes
Tim F 101
By Tim F 101 (Oct 3, 2012)

The new system might be fine but the presentation spreads out threads way too much. I do not want to have to scroll through eight screens worth of unnecessarily spread out text to find out what is on the front page of a forum.

0 upvotes
RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 4, 2012)

There's more to life than just the front page! I hope you read more than just the cover of a book or the front page of a newspaper! :)

0 upvotes
Rockchan
By Rockchan (Oct 4, 2012)

@ RedFox88 But the current "front page" is too long. We only need to "turn one page" to read more things in the past. We may not even need to turn any pages. However, after the current format is used, we cannot see the content even after we have turned several pages.

Comment edited 42 seconds after posting
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Tim F 101
By Tim F 101 (Oct 4, 2012)

RedFox, if you think that people should read deep into a forum's archive, then it must torture your soul that people with normal monitors cannot even read the front page without unnecessary scrolling.

0 upvotes
Hugowolf
By Hugowolf (Oct 3, 2012)

OK so the 4 point Verdana in the 'reply with quotes' has to go. I don't know what it says, because it is way too small.

0 upvotes
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 3, 2012)

We're working on fixing this.

0 upvotes
Amin Sabet
By Amin Sabet (Oct 3, 2012)

I like it. Major improvement.

2 upvotes
jack scholl
By jack scholl (Oct 3, 2012)

The lack of "new" indicators is a real loss. Couldn't care less about ranking posts or posters . . . seems like a way for some to mount campaigns to "win".

It wants be about info not egos . . . seems like the emphasis on the changes are misplaced.

FWIW.

Jack

1 upvote
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 3, 2012)

We're going to be rolling out more style elements that indicate that threads/posts are new, or that they contain new posts since your last visited.

0 upvotes
PaulRivers
By PaulRivers (Oct 4, 2012)

"The lack of "new" indicators is a real loss."

Just from my point of view, it's not loss at all, because they never worked in any remotely reliable fashion for me.

0 upvotes
RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 3, 2012)

Was Phil Askey consulted during your forum reprogramming since he created it all?

3 upvotes
zlatko
By zlatko (Oct 3, 2012)

Bravo! Looks good!

1 upvote
Simon97
By Simon97 (Oct 3, 2012)

I like now that I can see the contents of a message when I hover over with the mouse. Not sure I like the big spacing of the threads. I could see more on a screen before. perhaps making the titles closer together would be better. Now sold on the blue text.

When I tried to make a space for a new paragraph, the cursor jumped too far. When I back spaced, it jumped up to a single space under paragraph, but jumped down again when I started typing. Perhaps a bug? I'm on latest FF browser.

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PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 3, 2012)

Click on the collapsed tab.

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Simon97
By Simon97 (Oct 3, 2012)

Thanks for the tip. I also see I can set it back to yellow.

0 upvotes
Rockchan
By Rockchan (Oct 4, 2012)

@ PAUL TILL
But how can we see the author of the thread after we have clicked the collapsed tab?

1 upvote
Richard Franiec
By Richard Franiec (Oct 3, 2012)

I was trying to post forum message with link to Picasa album. The message was rejected for inappropriate language, I guess the link coding. This was happening sometimes before as well. Hope, this can be fixed?

0 upvotes
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 3, 2012)

Checking on this now Richard, can you PM me the link?

0 upvotes
herbymel
By herbymel (Oct 3, 2012)

I can already see problems with the rating like and dislike system if a thread gets rated away...the OP is going to be wondering which one of these people are the ones who got my thread killed and it's going to be leading to some harsh feelings. I can think perhaps that option might be the first to disappear.

2 upvotes
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 4, 2012)

Ratings do not kill threads, they just enable sorting options for users. We will never hide a thread due to downvotes.

0 upvotes
jpr2
By jpr2 (Oct 3, 2012)

is there a way to use the OLD SKIN = the previous layout, color scheme, functionality?

- where are "My Threads" gone?
- why such a waste of screen's real estate - readability just got a serious hit !!!
- why quoted texts aren't marked by different colors??

given time the list will grow longer, but these are the most
regrettable changes = immediately obvious :(

3 upvotes
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 3, 2012)

Click on your username to see your threads.

0 upvotes
jpr2
By jpr2 (Oct 3, 2012)

Scott, thanks fort the tip, :)

after collapsing all what might bi collapsed it started to look compact again. However, there doesn't seem
to a way to make fonts substantially less bright and perhaps a bit smaller too - after a short while my eyes started to hurt: esp. in yellow, but also in blue color-scheme

1 upvote
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 4, 2012)

We will soon be rolling out lighter color schemes that, I think, will be very desirable for a sizable chunk of our users. :)

1 upvote
jalywol
By jalywol (Oct 4, 2012)

Thank you thank you, a lighter color scheme would be fantastic. You did lots of good things in this upgrade but the high contrast lettering is making my eyes feel like they are going to pop out of my head.

Comment edited 37 seconds after posting
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Reilly Diefenbach
By Reilly Diefenbach (Oct 3, 2012)

Threads overlapping ads on IE9. Minutes ago are illegible :^(

2 upvotes
happypoppeye
By happypoppeye (Oct 3, 2012)

I hate it ...good work DPR ...after six years of looking at the same design it will take a while to get used to, and thats whY I hate it, but already I see some good features added and moving forward and updating is almost always a good thing, no matter what I think, so good work.

0 upvotes
GregGory
By GregGory (Oct 3, 2012)

Cannot comment on the functionality yet, but the new system sure is hideous. :(

4 upvotes
Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 3, 2012)

The gentle highlights in the threads to indicate own posts were nice. Were they removed on purpose or is that a bug as well?

2 upvotes
rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (Oct 3, 2012)

3 issues so far:

- post title colors a bit too much, please leave it as black/white/gray
- viewed posts don't change in tone/color like before
- compact view doesn't carry id of poster and full version just too large

Comment edited 9 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
ck3
By ck3 (Oct 3, 2012)

In order that I don't come off as too negative: the new "question" module seems like a very good idea. Especially the indicator in the forum overview that a question has been answered.

0 upvotes
motobloat
By motobloat (Oct 3, 2012)

Can you explain what criteria are used to determine the new user titles?

new member
junior member
forum member
regular member
senior member
veteran member
forum addict

maybe there's more i dunno...

3 upvotes
rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (Oct 3, 2012)

I didn't like to be called "forum addict"... ;)

0 upvotes
jalywol
By jalywol (Oct 3, 2012)

I am sure it has to do with the number of posts someone has made on DPR forums.

0 upvotes
sankos
By sankos (Oct 3, 2012)

"Recent forum activity" link seems to be broken, or is it just me?

edited to add: it's OK now, must have been a temporary glitch that got removed.

It'll take a week of getting used to the new scheme of things, but the fora do have a more streamlined look now.

Comment edited 8 minutes after posting
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Linus Svensson
By Linus Svensson (Oct 3, 2012)

When in threaded view, I always press the "N" key on my keyboard to go to the next post. Before the change, when getting to the last post it would stop, but now if I keep pressing n the last post keeps being reloaded.

Nothing really major, just thought you guys oughta now. At first I thought someone posted the same text 3 times (until I released I was just looking at the same post being reloaded)

1 upvote
Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 3, 2012)

Complaint...

Threads started by 'Ignored' users are no longer dropped to the bottom of the page - now they are now scattered all throughout the message listing - this is a bad/backward change.

3 upvotes
RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 3, 2012)

Probably just a glitch. No reason to believe that everything shoud be perfect on such a huge forum system as this upon launch! They'll get the bugs worked out as they always do. Patience dude!

0 upvotes
Richard Shih
By Richard Shih (Oct 4, 2012)

Looking into it...

0 upvotes
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 3, 2012)

Have you removed the preview when making a post or have you just made it a selectable option that I'm too thick to find?

0 upvotes
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 3, 2012)

The posting pane is now also the preview pane, if that's what you mean.

0 upvotes
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 3, 2012)

Kind of.

To view an image at full size you used to click 'original', that's now gone, do we have to go to the users gallery via the View: gallery page under each image and then have to click again to see it full size?

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 3, 2012)

When you put an image or more than one image in your post you don't get a preview of the image any longer.

2 upvotes
A Girard
By A Girard (Oct 3, 2012)

Yayy! clicking on my recent threads shows an error message. What a waste of time. I can't even find my bloody forum.

Other than the option to post images at three different resolutions (which about 50% of the time the middle size didn't load properly, everything else seemed to work ok in the previous version. I get that beer companies re-brand their labels to amuse their consumers, but this is junk. In terms of evolving, I'd take a page from McDonalds.

1 upvote
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 3, 2012)

You do realise that we haven't been able to live-test this? And that what you're complaining about are minor bugs that we will fix?

2 upvotes
Dan Ortego
By Dan Ortego (Oct 3, 2012)

The explanation of Community Moderation is unclear to me. However, I do believe that the forum needs Moderators or if they do exist, they most certainly need to do more to keep out the trash.

As to the new forum layout, it seems fine by me.

Comment edited 7 minutes after posting
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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 3, 2012)

we have recruited (but not yet 'activated') carefully screened and (soon to be) trained moderators from within the community. Not going to make a huge difference, but should improve our responsiveness to abuse and rule-breaking.

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Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 3, 2012)

Not only do they exist, but they are now 'marked' by a [MOD] icon next to their user names in message threads!

I'm really not sure that's a good idea.

0 upvotes
sherwoodpete
By sherwoodpete (Oct 3, 2012)

Carefully screened? No comment.

1 upvote
Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 3, 2012)

Complaint...

We seem to have lost the ability to filter-out threads with images?!!

Suggestion...

We really need to have a third starting category of thread, e.g...

1. 'New Discussion'

2. 'Ask a 'Question'

3. 'Share Photo(s)'

...and most importantly, we need the ability to 'filter in/out' what we are not interested in (which in my case, is - not interested in peoples threads full of holiday/family snaps and bird photos etc!!!)

3 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 3, 2012)

3 is coming. Next release.

2 upvotes
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 3, 2012)

That's the trouble with photography forums Mark, you tend to get the odd photo. :)

0 upvotes
Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 3, 2012)

Paul - sure, but the 'branded/manufacturer' forums are primarily meant to be for 'Discussing Cameras' - and not for sharing photos purely for the sake of it.

99% of photos could just as well have been taken with any brand or type of camera - it's incredibly silly just to exhibit photos just to people that happen to be interested in one 'brand' of camera - mostly it just amounts to narrow/misguided 'fan-boy'ism.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 3, 2012)

Yes but a picture is worth a thousand words.I would rather see what a camera can do than hear what it can do.:)

2 upvotes
RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 3, 2012)

Photographers make the picture, the camera is just a tool and does not "make" the picture. Cameras do nothing on their own!

0 upvotes
rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (Oct 3, 2012)

Please, get back to the more compact thread presentatiuon, we don't need that large lettering and display.

7 upvotes
JPMontez
By JPMontez (Oct 3, 2012)

+1
With the new line spacing we need to scroll a lot more...

2 upvotes
Deleted1929
By Deleted1929 (Oct 3, 2012)

Have you tried using the "collapsed" view mode ?

2 upvotes
JPMontez
By JPMontez (Oct 3, 2012)

@sjgcit: Thanks for the tip! I didn't notice that option.

1 upvote
rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (Oct 3, 2012)

Thnaks, but another issue: viewed posts don't change in tone/color, so you don't know which you have read already.

2 upvotes
rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (Oct 3, 2012)

Actually, looking back at it, the more compact view doesn't have the name of poster, etc. Not good enough, I still like the older version better. And please remove the colors.

3 upvotes
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 3, 2012)

There is a white dot next to every post. It is fully white if the post is unread, and it is clear if the post is read.

We are also looking into ways to incorporate colors to signify the same thing, but want to be sure not to overload the page with more colors.

1 upvote
RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 3, 2012)

rhl: please speak for yourself and don't speak for everyone with your "we don't...".

0 upvotes
Jim Cockfield
By Jim Cockfield (Oct 3, 2012)

So far, I hate it.

My feedback.... leave a good thing alone, and let members here keep the old look and feel. I dunno... perhaps use a different theme for the old look and feel or something, so that we don't have to keep putting up with changes that just makes the forums look worse than they did before each round of enhancements.

BTW, I really don't like the removal of a My Threads link at the top of of the threads list with a Keyboard shortcut taking it's place. I'll often browse the web for hours at a time with a wireless mouse in my hand sitting in a recliner, without touching a keyboard. More keyboard use required = bad.

In any event, the Keyboard Shortcut for My Threads (a.k.a., Recent Activity) quit working not long after you switched over to the new look anyway..

Now, we can't get to My Threads at all. This just returns a page not found error now (the page you're sent to if you use the M shortcut key):

http://forums.dpreview.com/members/me/forums/RecentActivity

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 3, 2012)

I found the bug in that - delete the word "Activity" at the end and it'll work.

0 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 3, 2012)
  1. you don't have to 'keep putting up with changes' to the forums - we update them on average once every 7 years. We've also offered options to keep the index pages looking somewhat like they used to.
  2. To see your threads just click on your name
  3. there are some teething problems (errors) - we expected that, and are fixing them. We're also listening to all the feedback and will - i guarantee you - act on it as we iterate and refine the new system.
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Jim Cockfield
By Jim Cockfield (Oct 3, 2012)

"I found the bug in that - delete the word "Activity" at the end and it'll work."

Thanks. It's working again using both the M shortcut key and the link from under your member name (both options were broken when I made the above comment).

"...you don't have to 'keep putting up with changes' to the forums - we update them on average once every 7 years. We've also offered options to keep the index pages looking somewhat like they used to. "

7 years? More like one year.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/39352547

Yea... those were not too bad once you got used to the new colors. This time, we'll have to see how long it takes to become accustomed to the changes. But, first impressions are not good. Something about the look of the forum post you're currently viewing just rubs me the wrong way. I dunno.. I guess you can't please everyone. But, I just don't like the new look (and I suspect that a lot of others will share my view).

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 3, 2012)

Why does the thread depth top out at some arbitrary depth in threaded view? It didn't used to, but now, after 10 or so posts, they all look flat. Is that a bug or is it intentional?

1 upvote
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 3, 2012)

it was a decision based on the fact that we wanted to get rid of half a screen full of the word 're'

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 3, 2012)

So, it's intentionally useless then.

Okay, two suggestions for fixing it...

- Let it got a bit deeper (say 20) before limiting
- Have the text change colors and then start again at the left

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 3, 2012)

@lfinger - suggestions are fine, insults are not. It is very depressing to work on something like this for months (not me in this case, but Simon and our developers) and have decisions that have been carefully considered mocked as 'intentionally useless'. It's fine to have opinions, but have some respect, please.

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RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 3, 2012)

Barney, you have to know the Mr. Finger is full of that kind of attitude. I believe he's on my ignore list!

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 4, 2012)

Okay, well, the indents used to work, and now they don't after a certain point. I don't know what to call something that no longer works other than "useless", and I did give two helpful suggestions to make it useful again.

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 4, 2012)

"Barney, you have to know the Mr. Finger is full of that kind of attitude. I believe he's on my ignore list!"

I'm an engineer. When I design or build something that doesn't work, I myself call it useless (usually, it's worse than that because it also wasted my time), and expect others to do so as well. When I design something that doesn't work for its users, I want to know it.

Barney is wrong anyway - I called the feature useless, not the person that designed it. If I had called Simon useless, that would have been an insult. I didn't because he isn't (useless, that is). Quite the contrary.

On that topic, not having the authors shown in collapsed view in the forum is bad because I always make it a point to read any thread posted by Simon or the other DPReview folks, because I think their posts are useful to read. I made a suggestion on how to fix that problem too.

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 4, 2012)

I woud go with 'x works differently' or 'x works in a way I don't like for this reason...' both are les likely to cause offense.

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 4, 2012)

Okay, the indents don't work in a deep tree, and so don't serve their purpose of showing you who is answering whom. I'd like them to work again. If the way they used to work is objectionable, I made two alternative suggestions. If you have a better solution than either of those, then great, but not working at all is a functional regression.

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A Girard
By A Girard (Oct 3, 2012)

Great, first Facebook and their never ending "improvements" and now this. I didn't realize the FZ200 was a compact.

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RedFox88
By RedFox88 (Oct 3, 2012)

DPR has said their last forum update, which was probably minor, was 7 years ago. Not a good comparison!

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jcmarfilph
By jcmarfilph (Oct 3, 2012)

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Tan68
By Tan68 (Oct 3, 2012)

i like flat view. when i make a post, i am shuttled back to threaded. then i click on flat but don't jump to the post i just made... back on the first page and have to navigate to where i was...

i have looked through the options. if there is a way to correct this behavior, i have missed it...

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davidgp
By davidgp (Oct 3, 2012)

What happened to the link at the bottom of a thread to return to the forum? I used that one all the time: I'm often reading the last post of a long thread, viewing it in "flat" mode, so the link to the forum is waaaay up at the top, requiring lots of scrolling (or using the "f" shortcut).

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davidgp
By davidgp (Oct 4, 2012)

This has magically appeared overnight! I know, no magic, lots of hard work. Thanks for being so responsive.

I feel for you guys having to field all of the complaining.

I for one like the changes. Out with the old, in with the new.

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Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 3, 2012)

Bug report...

Heavily indented 'Threaded views' now very quickly loe their indentation, and text is spilling over the right side boundary, across those all important advertisements (joke) etc.

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ck3
By ck3 (Oct 3, 2012)

I don't know if its possible to implement: But how about an option to deactivate the mouse-over balloons?

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Carbon111
By Carbon111 (Oct 3, 2012)

*Very* hard on the eyes regardless of the blue or yellow color choice. :(

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jalywol
By jalywol (Oct 3, 2012)

Yes, I agree. The forum lists in collapsed mode seem to strobe a bit, in a way the old ones did not. Maybe it has to do with the spacing or lines between each post? The yellow is particularly bad, maybe it's a slightly different color than before? Without having the old one next to it, I can't tell what is causing this.....

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Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 4, 2012)

As noted in the story above, we have some lighter color schemes on the way.

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Richard Shih
By Richard Shih (Oct 4, 2012)

It's the exact same yellow as it used to be...

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Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 4, 2012)

Richard - the problem is caused by the background now being [0,0,0] black (it was previously [51,51,51] grey), and this is making the "exact same yellow" jump out very in an overly harsh contrast.

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