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Just deployed: New dpreview.com forums system

By dpreview staff on Oct 3, 2012 at 21:29 GMT

We've just deployed the redesigned forum system - the biggest single change we've made since our forums were created, over 13 years ago. As discussed in an earlier news post, the new software will closely match the behavior of the existing system but with a range of additional features and with scope for further expansion in the future. We've sifted through the feedback from the preview announcement we made last week and have developed a list of requested features that we will start working on.

Existing feedback:

From our first round of feedback we have identified a series of features that we will be implementing in the coming weeks and months, including:

  • 'm.forums' mobile-device-friendly version of the forums
  • Alternative colorschemes / skins
  • 'Ignore thread' option
  • 'Mark as read' option for threads
  • Additional requested tweaks and improvements

But we've listened to all the feedback and will continue to add features and behavioral adjustments.

Clarification on user moderation:

We would also like to make a clarification about community moderation and the role of down-voting in the new forums. When we talk about community moderation, we are referring to a group of hand-picked moderators who have volunteered from within the forums communities and whose actions will be overseen, not simply entrusting moderation to up- and down-voting. We will also be working very carefully when setting thresholds for any systems based on voting so that they can't be easily rigged. These systems will not be introduced until we think they can be introduced in a way that truly benefits the community.

More features coming

In addition to the requested tweaks and feature additions that were requested in the first round of feedback, there are a series of features that the new system will allow us to add. These include:

  • User reviews
  • User articles / blog posts
  • User polls
  • Better filtering (time / date ranges ...)
  • Trending / hot stuff page
  • Better integration with product pages (ability to ask / see questions on product pages...)

More feedback wanted

However, we know that a change this big will inevitably have a few teething troubles and features that need to be fine-tuned, so we're looking for feedback on any bugs you spot or changes you think have to be made. Please send your feedback using this webform, where they will be monitored to help make the new forums as enjoyable as possible.

Comments

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photofan1986
By photofan1986 (Oct 6, 2012)

Could not be much worse!

6 upvotes
ck3
By ck3 (Oct 6, 2012)

Switching between forums remains unnecessarily cumbersome, I think.
How about a collapsible widget on the right side (below the user profile) with links to each user's ten most often visited forums (or alternatively: allow the user to populate that list in his preferences)?

1 upvote
ck3
By ck3 (Oct 6, 2012)

In threaded view you might want to consider putting the/an additional forum navigation bar (forum, parent, next etc.) under the message. The current position (more or less on top of the page) works well enough with shorter messages. But once a message is so long that you have to scroll downward to read it completely you then have to scroll back up to get to the next post or return to the forum which you would logically expect where your eyes are after reading a message - at the bottom of the message box.

2 upvotes
john10001
By john10001 (Oct 6, 2012)

Just taken a quick squizz at the new forums and I am very impressed. I like the thumbs up an down buttons. I think the layout and design is improved a bit as well it looks a lot cleaner and fresher.

0 upvotes
Timur Born
By Timur Born (Oct 6, 2012)

Overall I like the the design optically, albeit the black/white boxes are very contrasty on the eyes. It looks classic (good), though.

I do not like how much screen estate gets wasted by less than important things. Half the vertical space is used for other things before the posts list is showing up.

- The "New thread" and "Ask Question" buttons + text are HUGE compared to the rest and there is a BIG blank field left empty beside them.

Simple solution: Put the text to the right side of the button image, instead of below. Maybe you can squeeze in the "Expanded/Compact" buttons right beside it, too?!

- The popups are a problem on the iPad (Safari), because they happen easily when one wants to scroll and don't vanish anymore.

- Clicking on the last post (date/time) does _not_ link to the last post in non-threaded view anymore (never did properly in threaded view anyway).

- When the last line of a quoted post is deleted during edit (first non quoted line) you cannot enter own text.

0 upvotes
echelon2004
By echelon2004 (Oct 6, 2012)

Would it be very difficult to embed the original colorspace when copying and resizing images? Try browsing your site on a wide gamut monitor and in a color managed environment, not a pretty sight. Other than that things obviously work, specially if you remove the message previews again, or make them optional.

5 upvotes
TonyCu
By TonyCu (Oct 6, 2012)

The OP's name back in the collapsed view - thanks very much for that - makes a huge difference to the usefulness of the forum for me.

3 upvotes
Robert Hoffman
By Robert Hoffman (Oct 6, 2012)

The wide spacing between threads is driving me nuts. Before, it was nice and compact and you could scan large blocks of threads quickly. Now, you have to constantly scroll up and down to accomplish the same task.

Rob

7 upvotes
em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 6, 2012)

Option to TURN OFF the WYSIWYG editor, please!

I know from experience that most WYSIWYG editors have an option for providing a button to switch over to BBCode or HTML or whatever. I'm far more frustrated trying to not mess up the type styles in the WYSIWYG editor than I would be using ANY sort of code. There are many people like me.

Give us the OPTION.

Really!

Thanks.

P.S. -- And I can type "<b>" and the like way faster than I can click some stupid button. Onscreen buttons are for novices, noobs, and the technically inept. Being technically inept does not make you a bad person, but it does make you slower with your clicking than I can type. Why hold us all down to your least common denominator? Give us options. Options. Options. Not one box fits all.

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
7 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 6, 2012)

can you type and faster than you can type ctrl-B? (PS we're looking at a non-WYSIWYG editor, and you could've asked for this in one line of text!)

1 upvote
em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 6, 2012)

Full disclosure, I did not notice that the keyboard shortcuts were supported until after I wrote that. My preference would be to have your "old way" available, because it is faster than both raw HTML or the WYSIWYG editor. In terms of speed (less is better), old way < CTRL-B < HTML < Clicking buttons. :)

Sorry if I'm too verbose for you. I have the luxury of not working 18 hour days this week, which you apparently don't have. But I have worked plenty of 18 hour days lately, which is why I had not been posting, lol. Keep up the good work... I for one will not trash the new layout as a whole like some do. I see some improvements in it. Just want /some/ of the old stuff.

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1 upvote
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 6, 2012)

no i apologise, that was a bit snippy :)

1 upvote
em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 6, 2012)

Of what I have mentioned, THANKS for fixing the time stamp as displayed on individual posts... Hope you get a break soon.

0 upvotes
em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 6, 2012)

Also Thanks for reinserting the author name in topic list.

0 upvotes
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 6, 2012)

@Simon Joinson

re: wysiwyg editor - your reply - "can you type <b> and </b> faster than you can type ctrl-B?"

True enough, however, I am finding that when I reply to posts with quotes .. and when those quotes include photos ... it quite literally crashes my browser when I try to selectively remove parts of the body of text and/or photos. I'm running IE8 (Tried 9) and Win7 with plenty of RAM. I've not had this happen with the old forum. BTW, I've noticed a HUGE improvement in other areas since release. TY

0 upvotes
TheEye
By TheEye (Oct 6, 2012)

I don't see a post preview any longer. Did this feature get dropped?

0 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 6, 2012)

you don't need it because the post entry is now WYSIWYG

1 upvote
TheEye
By TheEye (Oct 6, 2012)

Well, with a preview I see my typos. With WYSIWYG I don't. I suppose, WYSIWYG is not the same as WISISWIG! :-p

Comment edited 23 seconds after posting
3 upvotes
Xellz
By Xellz (Oct 6, 2012)

Image viewing size is rather small even in expanded mode. Just noticed this after viewing panorama thread in landscape forum. Previous version was much better for viewing posted photos.

5 upvotes
mojorisn
By mojorisn (Oct 6, 2012)

Perhaps I missed this. I used to be able to log into my favorite forum, and see just the new messages (since my last visit) at the top. Usually a handful, I could quickly scan to see if I was interested in them. Now, there does not seem to be a way that clearly indicates which are new since my last visit. That, plus the new color and layout, is quite exhausting on the eyes and brain. I must be missing something.
Les

4 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 6, 2012)

the little dot to the left tells you this - we'll be making it more obvious since a lot of people are missing it.

1 upvote
mojorisn
By mojorisn (Oct 6, 2012)

Thank you, Simon. Yes, I have seen the white dot, but that only marks if I have opened the thread, or not. On the old forum layout, it immediately told me which threads had new posts (those threads were listed at the top and were marked) and which did not. That made it very easy and efficient to see what I had or had not missed since my last visit.
Les

0 upvotes
Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 6, 2012)

It's getting there, guys. Lots and lots of changes, fixes and improvements. Not quite there yet, but getting there.

Has Simon slept yet?

4 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 6, 2012)

No

4 upvotes
Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 6, 2012)

LoL.

I'll bet a lot of caffeine has seen it's last day on this Earth.

0 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 6, 2012)

We're counting down the days until the adrenaline runs out.

Comment edited 15 seconds after posting
4 upvotes
RDCollins
By RDCollins (Oct 5, 2012)

Three complaints (so far):

1. The "last post" links in the list of forum posts don't work, taking the user instead to the first post in a thread.

2. Blank lines in posts are deleted, making paragraphs run together and thus making the entire post more difficult to read.

3. Links in posts do not open in a new window or tab and instead force the user to leave the page (right clicking does provide a work-around, but that shouldn't be necessary).

1 upvote
Daniel Clune
By Daniel Clune (Oct 5, 2012)

Why are you downsizing images of say a 1000 pixels wide. It makes them look like crap. Click on image it then up-sizes this downsized image making it look even worse. Yes you can click on Original in corner but that's a real pain plus it then pops it up in another box. I thought this was a photo site. Why make looking at those photos so POOR?

Most monitors are now at least 1200 pixels wide, why downsize 1000 pixel wide pictures which is what I consider ideal web size. Not tiny 600 wide ones.

8 upvotes
SergeyGreen
By SergeyGreen (Oct 5, 2012)

I could not agree more. And they strip the exif in process. So you only shake you head and ask the same question - why would a photography site do something like it. Beats me.

6 upvotes
onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 5, 2012)

Thank you for restoring the highlight of own messages within the thread. Could you please make it a little subtler than the one highlighting the message currently being read? Right now they are the same, and it can be a bit confusing.

4 upvotes
Earthlight
By Earthlight (Oct 5, 2012)

I see many significant improvements already! It's getting there!

If only I could get the right margin blue "user tab" work with my iPad. :)

Earthlight

1 upvote
janlu
By janlu (Oct 5, 2012)

In the threaded view it's better to use one line for thread.... doesn't matter if the title is not showed entirely but it will be a more homogenous and pleasant view to scanning through......

0 upvotes
Dailypix
By Dailypix (Oct 5, 2012)

I am not sure how to post an image. I used to post the url to the jpg but now the image does not show, just the link. What am I doing wrong?

Comment edited 22 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
sean lancaster
By sean lancaster (Oct 5, 2012)

There is a button you can click in above the text entry box that allows you to just post the URL to the image that is hosted elsewhere. It works just swell. I like it better because some people used to post full sized images previously and they'd show up full sized; now they are resized and users have the option to view the full size if they want it.

0 upvotes
sean lancaster
By sean lancaster (Oct 5, 2012)

Also, if I link to the full size version of an image on Flickr then the EXIF data gets displayed. If I link to an individual sized version (e.g., width 1024) then the EXIF data is not displayed in the thread on the image. If this is an error from Flickr then that's probably that, but if if it's something easily fixed then that would be appreciated. Thanks.

0 upvotes
sean lancaster
By sean lancaster (Oct 5, 2012)

You probably know of some of these issue I am reporting, but on the "recent forum activity" (e.g., pressing M on a forum) menu, I appreciate that you added a column for the forum. Unfortunately, clicking on the link to the forum or the link to the last post both result in a page not found error.

0 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Oct 5, 2012)

End of previous post :
* The flat view is so contrasty that by now all flat view users must have switched to the threaded view (not necessarily a bad thing, but probably unintended);
* The new layout now, although more readable, just looks like "nothing special". While the older one was smart, elegant and well thought apparently by graphic people, there is really nothing to make the new one attractive and enjoyable : those soft rounded corners helping to dig the holes in the black backgroung : beurk..
We are photographers and we want shades of greys playing nicely together; we are visual people and we want something special, something well thought, elegant, although done with sobriety.

Comment edited 31 seconds after posting
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rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Oct 5, 2012)

Several things have been improved in the new forum application since its introduction, they have mainly to do with the way the index lists look : more compact lines, name of the poster back, colors choice allowing an easier distinction between read/unread posts.

Thanks for hearing us !

As for the new layout, it is still much too contrasty, even if the background window is now very very light grey :
* The white windows are digging holes in the pages, like burned highlights in a dark slide;
* They attract attention to Amazon adds as much as to what matters most to forumers, the text content of the posts;
(End in following post)

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
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Teru Kage
By Teru Kage (Oct 5, 2012)

Is it just me, or is anyone having problems when using an Android device? After the forum upgrade, I'm unable to use shift/numlock/any of the keyboard altering buttons on my Sony Xperia (Android 2.3).

0 upvotes
onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 5, 2012)

Thank you for fixing the blue mode - read links now appear properly, and it is easier on the eyes than the high-intensity yellow mode. Thank you also for fixing navigation with "n".

That still leaves the non-functional ignore lists. I trust this is coming? It was a good feature.

0 upvotes
phynesse
By phynesse (Oct 5, 2012)

As long as you dont intruduce subsections to the forums and sticky posts, your engine is essentially stuck in the 90s.

1 upvote
tymevest
By tymevest (Oct 5, 2012)

I like the old format much much better!

6 upvotes
alan_potter
By alan_potter (Oct 5, 2012)

Please give us a "next" button at the bottom of a post, so that we can move to the next post in the thread without scrolling back to the top of the page?

0 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 5, 2012)

will do

1 upvote
David Nall
By David Nall (Oct 5, 2012)

Please put this in BETA until it is fixed and give us the old forum format back until then.

Comment edited 22 seconds after posting
9 upvotes
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 5, 2012)

That can't be done .... they blew up the bridge behind them after they crossed it. It's irreversable

1 upvote
MichaelIsGreat4
By MichaelIsGreat4 (Oct 5, 2012)

One issue is to reach a page number that is far. You have to click several times. Imagine you want to check the posts from page 40, you will have to click many times to reach page 40.

Previously, you just put 40 in the page field, and one click and you were at page 40 easily and quickly.

I understand that you need to change the layout to add features and be able to evolve it further. Well, I do prefer the previous layout but I will try to get acquainted with this new layout.

1 upvote
Lightshow
By Lightshow (Oct 5, 2012)

I'm seeing colors change in my linked pictures, the source img is at Flickr, it looks fine there and at FredMiranda, but here it looks desaturated.
eg.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1042&message=50010803

2 upvotes
PhilM oz
By PhilM oz (Oct 5, 2012)

When posting new messages links and images in the signature now appear as text. They appear correctly in old posts; but not new ones. There is no way to edit the signature to change them back to hyperlinks and images.

Please fix.

1 upvote
David Nall
By David Nall (Oct 5, 2012)

I thought it was just me. This is very frustrating. I think I might just check back in a month or two to see if anything is fixed or if they go back to the format that worked.

5 upvotes
rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Oct 6, 2012)

Thus is up to the poster : he has to use the buttons in the menu bar to insert a clickable link in his post; there are different button to insert links and pictures from different sources..

0 upvotes
PhilM oz
By PhilM oz (Oct 6, 2012)

I was talking about your personal message signature, not the message body.

Previously you could have hyperlinks and images in your signature; but these no longer work. The signature editor in the settings doesn't have the tools to add hyperlinks or images to your signature so your signature now shows as simple text.

0 upvotes
iwaddo77
By iwaddo77 (Oct 5, 2012)

Rather than an m. mobile version of the forums have you considered an existing forum app like tapatalk?

0 upvotes
Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 5, 2012)

Oh, please no. A forum app would be utterly useless to me compared to a mobile version of the site viewable in any browser.

0 upvotes
busch
By busch (Oct 5, 2012)

1. Of what use are the votes? One can even vote for their own post!
2. When replying with quote and clipping the original quote, hitting retrun to start a new line will freeze the program.

6 upvotes
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 5, 2012)

That's EXACTLY what happens to me. It totally crashes my IE8... especially if I'm trying to quote out (cut out) a posted photo in my reply. AND the posted shots no longer expand to the shots maximum resolution. This site used to be very useful to inspect in great detail large images .... now this isn't better now posted pictures don't look any better than a simple flikr post.

1 upvote
Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 5, 2012)

Same here.

My browser keeps crashing irretrievably in the middle of typing/editing whilst replying to messages using the 'Reply with quote'. It's incredibly frustrating!!!!!

I'm using IE8 on Win XP

1 upvote
ericinho
By ericinho (Oct 5, 2012)

[OT]
I find the downright rude and simply ungrateful behavior of some here baffling, especially since the entire site is FREE. So an effort to make the site better (again free of charge) should be applauded, supported and critized constructively instead of being a complete d--k moaning like a little kid about things that do not work and are "a big mistake".

ofcourse as with most (if not all) migrations to another system, a lot of things go wrong, but the DP team is working to fix them. So why don't you give them an encouragement by giving useful critique in a way your mother taught you to do. No one of us can make any claims or demands, since you don't pay a dime (and spare me non-arguments like the few ads here and there)

So instead of all this negativety that seems to be going around since too many month, try to be a bit more courteous It will make the boards a fun place again and the site in general more enjoyable to visit (plus as bonus the DP crew will likely appreciate it).

15 upvotes
John King
By John King (Oct 5, 2012)

Hear, hear, Eric.

Well said. I agree wholeheartedly.

regards, john

0 upvotes
Florida Nature Photographer

Some should ask themselves how motivated they would be to please people who make requests in the tone of too many posts here.

0 upvotes
Mariush
By Mariush (Oct 5, 2012)

A real usefull comment. Bravo Eric. May I add to this that in my (rather long) experience of implementing new IT systems and/or the implementation of what is seen as "large" changes-/improvements to existing systems, the part that needs most attention and effort is NOT the development or technical implementation, but the "treatment" of users expectations and learning curve. As most of you will know, after 2-3 months (of not earlier) litterally no-one who was so critical wants to return to the previous application (by then seen as old-fashioned).

2 upvotes
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 5, 2012)

These forums are NOT free. Or are you going to tell me that your version of this forum is free from advertisements??? I have bought many items from these forums based on either the advertisements or the information posted by the users.

It is 100% OK in my books to point out what is NOT right about the new layout. It is NOT OK to do so in an over the top rude manner. But pointing out objective facts about how people feel about the changes is fair game.

5 upvotes
ericinho
By ericinho (Oct 5, 2012)

They didn't drop waste, nor kill someone. They are trying to improve the user experience by adding new features. Should the so called community stay quiet if things go wrong? No, but they can apply common decency in the way they express their disappointment or share the issues that go wrong.

It's really not that hard to understand, is it.

@Nightwings: are you paying a fee to visit this website? or is walking the streets also not for free because you are confronted by street advertisements? But anyway, apart from the little side track, we do agree 100%

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
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David Nall
By David Nall (Oct 5, 2012)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

0 upvotes
Mariush
By Mariush (Oct 5, 2012)

@David Nall

It's not always that easy. Technology moves on. New devices appear, as do new ways of publishing (electronically) information. In many cases this is an important reason to look at what's needed to make a forum work correctly and in doing so, it may very well be that the long list of needed and/or wanted changes (improvements?) are implemented.
So even if it looks not broken it may very well be that sooner or later large fixes were needed.

2 upvotes
Andrewteee
By Andrewteee (Oct 5, 2012)

I'd be willing to pay for a better design. I pay annually to support other photography forums.

The redesign of DPR breaks some basic visual design tenets. There may be bugs to iron out after deployment, but there should not be visual design mistakes. As it stands, there are. Looking at the new screens gives me a headache and I want to spend less and less time here. That should matter to DPR since they'll get fewer page views.

Sorry, but I get irritated when software companies roll out new products with a checklist of features, but do not put enough thought into the interaction and visual design. In today's marketplace design matters. Do less, but do it very well.

Do we appreciate DPR making an effort to improve the site experience? Absolutely! But in this case the site experience has degraded, at least for this long-time member. My feedback on the design here and in threads has been constructive; I was very specific about my points, all offered up in the spirit of collaboration.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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Polyglot92
By Polyglot92 (Oct 5, 2012)

Instead of complaining that others "complain" too much for your taste, have you considered a) that this feedback is useful for the site, and b) that if the site doesn't charge for use, we contribute by looking at the ads and posting? Yes, DPR is listening and I appreciate it, but only after really messing up the initial testing phase and displaying an astonishing lack of understanding of what users want. Had they done it the other way round, as they may do next time, you may not have to complain about others "complaining" ;-)

1 upvote
Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 5, 2012)

The feedback is all welcomed everyone, just want that to be clear. Obviously when its packaged in a constructive way, its easier to distill, but we did not go into this thinking it would be a simple process. As you will notice, we've already made 30-40 small changes to address some initial user feedback, and for some of the larger issues for some users, such as contrast and color, we'd already planned some options that are being worked through. The key to remember is that moving to this new platform allows us to be much more flexible in addressing user needs than before, where any small change was much more risky and challenging to implement.

1 upvote
Michael J Davis
By Michael J Davis (Oct 5, 2012)

Yesterday the blue didn't change to show what had been read. Then I found yellow scheme, which did.

Today the blue changes, but I can't switch to yellow - which I prefer.

For goodness sakes, can't you get it right?!!

Mike

0 upvotes
shii
By shii (Oct 5, 2012)

In the forums, can we put a row of buttons for Previous and Next, etc at the bottom of the post/reply? (or move the one at the bottom of the list of posts in the thread up to the top) Right now we have to scroll back to the top of the post to click a button to go to the next post. This is very incinvenient for a long post especially when reading on an iPad. I know there is keyboard shortcut but we cannot do it on the iPad.

I found blue on black difficult to read so I switched to yellow. After switching to a Flat View and then back to Threaded View again, the display stayed blue on black and would not allow me to go to yellow on black anymore. Is that a bug?

Also, sometimes the bullet points disappear altogether. Bug? I am using an iPad.

2 upvotes
profus
By profus (Oct 5, 2012)

am i only one to see, that the images viewed in the new forum are not looking that good ( sharp ) as before? try to compare an image from any thread to the same image opened directly in the gallery and you'll see what i am talking about...

since this is a photo forum - it is a huge minus imho :-((

6 upvotes
PhotoKhan
By PhotoKhan (Oct 5, 2012)

I also noticed it.

I hope it is fixable...

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 2 minutes after posting
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Lightshow
By Lightshow (Oct 5, 2012)

I'm seeing colors change, the source img is at Flickr, it looks fine at FredMiranda, and Flickr, but here it looks desaturated.
eg.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1042&message=50010803

0 upvotes
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 5, 2012)

Agreed - How images were displayed before was one of the things that set this forum apart from the others ..... now that gem is gone.

2 upvotes
Polyglot92
By Polyglot92 (Oct 5, 2012)

I can no longer compare the exif data of different images easily because I have only one mouse to hover over images...
And I no longer see the name of the OP in collapsed view.
Other than wysiwyg editing which has been added, I only see funtions missing, This really looks like priority being given to debatable cosmetic changes over functionality. I sure hope all missing functionalities, and the quality of the images posted, can be brought back. At the moment I give it an overall score of 49%, to speak in DPR terms.

1 upvote
PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 5, 2012)

No you're not, if you bothered reading from the beginning you would see it's been mentioned a few times.

0 upvotes
janlu
By janlu (Oct 5, 2012)

All your own comments in a thread are now in evidence..... how do you know which one of yours are you exactly displaying in a busy discussion ????

Also when going to copy a picture in a previous page ....coming back to the reply is empty and you have to restart again..... only solution is open new a new tab.... really not a fast and comfortable way to navigate , especially using Lion gesture !!
Maybe i have to get used but it's really an hard work for the eyes !!!
Where is the post preview ???
The vote is really useless....
Link in the signature doesn't work !!!
Hope you fix....... Gianluca

Comment edited 4 minutes after posting
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PAUL TILL
By PAUL TILL (Oct 5, 2012)

Is it too much to ask that you alter it so that when you go to the next page it starts at the top?

1 upvote
aja2
By aja2 (Oct 5, 2012)

Ok this is odd! if you go to this post: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/42628000

The cat photo is rotated sideways in the post. When you go to the gallery, it's not! It's the first & only post I've seen like this. I don't drink so it's not me, I swear! :-P

1 upvote
HSway
By HSway (Oct 5, 2012)

Glad to hear about the light skin mode coming.
thank you,

0 upvotes
HSway
By HSway (Oct 5, 2012)

Black colour has its undisputable benefits and a top position in graphic and is deservedly popular.

Seemingly little change in colour and contrast can have a big impact, though. There is a great scale of colour and grey gradients but only relatively few sweet spots and not much room around them. Making the main activity board pure black poses kind of neutrality where the loss of a slightest shade gets distracting and uncomfortable in frequent contact – like lots of regular reading. It’s usually fine for setting off a comment section or an advert bay and similar irregular field by it.

The previous version had the forums message board darker grey, not too deep dark or too close to pure black. So while the classic scheme is the same its execution has changed and has lost its right balance. That's why more complains about the contrast than before.
Apart from this I welcome many changes and the better coding. Bugs and little things fixed along the way is normal.
Hynek

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John King
By John King (Oct 5, 2012)

"Maximum posts reached" message is being triggered at 149 posts, not 150.

e.g. here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3277218

Check the increment variable loop structure, it is counting from 148 to 0, not from 149 to 0.

Either that, or the logic of the IF-THEN-ELSE or LOOP UNTIL or similar CONDITION statement is wrong.

[EDIT]
There also appears to be a problem with honouring posts that are commenced before the 150 post limit is reached (or 149, in this case ;) ).

This is not very acceptable, regardless of how much some trolls (selectively) suggest that it should be the rule.

If 5 people all start a reply when the post count is at (say) 146 posts, all five posts should be honoured. Otherwise it is a very unfair system. It also wastes the time of the last poster to click the POST button. This poster has had no warning until the post is refused.

I have just wasted 15 minutes typing a reply only to have that happen.
Not amused.
[end edit]

regards, john

Comment edited 15 minutes after posting
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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 5, 2012)

or maybe we changed it intentionally? (we didn't)

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John King
By John King (Oct 5, 2012)

I didn't think you had, Simon ... LOL!

I have noticed the emoticons are now working, and so are Ctrl+B etc for formatting.

Obviously still some bits that need attention (lots of attention, in some cases).
However I reckon that the team has done a fantastic job of doing this while the system was "hot".

Look forward to the finished product in the fullness of time.

regards, john

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John King
By John King (Oct 5, 2012)

The cursor activation when hovering over the "Click to use the image viewing mode" button in posts is off centre badly. Also too small an active area; applies to both expand and collapse.

URL links and image links still do not work in my footer block.

Top Posters and Top Threads is still displaying the stats for the forums as a whole rather than for the specific forum.

The link to the last post takes one to somewhere (?) in the thread, but not to the last post.

The FORUM link next to specific threads/posts in RECENT ACTIVITY takes one to that thread, not to the specified forum.

Number of posts in a thread does not display in FLAT VIEW when within the thread, only on the forum home page.

Still no emoticons.

Splitting a quote does not work (IE8, WinXP Pro SP3).

Quoting another post mostly leads to a "hung/slow script on page" error.

EDIT twice only works once ... gives an error that the post has already been edited twice.

Keep those squirrels working ;)!

regards, john

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solarider
By solarider (Oct 5, 2012)

Lots of feed back here too http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50002298

You folks at dpreview must be snowed with things to fix. Maybe revert to the old format and get it fixed first if that's possible?

thank you.

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John King
By John King (Oct 5, 2012)

It isn't possible.

The data format is different.

regards, J

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 5, 2012)

@JohnKing

The by product of blowing up the bridge behind you after you cross it. That's what DPR effectively did .... quite effectively I might add. :)

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Julian Vrieslander
By Julian Vrieslander (Oct 5, 2012)

Blue text on black is a HUGE MISTAKE, must be changed.

There are usability studies that back this up. Blue text on a black background impairs readability in several significant ways. Our brains have developed, through evolution, to sense blue as a background color (probably because the sky is blue). So blue text is perceived as receding behind a dark background. Also, for people with vision impairments (cataracts, corneal scars, detached vitreous, etc.) colors at the blue end of the the spectrum cause the most aberration and scattering. All of these factors combine to make blue on black a horrible choice for significant text content on a computer screen.

Ideally, there should be a user setting to display dark text on a light background, which works better than light on dark for many people.. If there are no user options, the web designers must change to something more readable than blue on black. This is a non-debatable issue.

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rjx
By rjx (Oct 5, 2012)

The black page with white text has got to go.

EG- http://forums.dpreview.com/forums
Black with yellow and white text is hard on the eyes.
I'd like to see the black replaced with a nice white, or off white.
The links could be an eye friendly color, and the subtext could be black, or an off black.

Another EG

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/1002
A black page with blue and white text is hard on the eyes.

These color designs remind me of annoying blogger sites where the layout is dark with white text. This generates eye fatigue.

Same thing with the main page ( http://www.dpreview.com/ )
Black page with white text

And when you click on a story, it's the same. Black w/ white text.

I'm shocked DPR has had this design for so long.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 5, 2012)

right now we offer an option to go back to yellow on black. A black on light option will follow, eventually. This site has had the same color scheme for 14 years...

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 5, 2012)

btw we floated the idea of switching to black on white earlier this year and a poll showed an overwhelming majority of our users wanted to keep it as it is...

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Polyglot92
By Polyglot92 (Oct 5, 2012)

"This site has had the same color scheme for 14 years..."
Thanks for confirming that the changes were made because someone got bored. I've seen better reasons for fixing what's not broken.

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rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Oct 6, 2012)

@ Simon Joinson :
I remember it very well that poll you made last year; I was among those who voted to keep the light text on dark background. This is a distinctive feature of this website and I'd be sorry to loose it.
You can issue another dark text on white background for those who can't cope with the old way, but please don't force us to choose between this new contrasty layout lacking all nuances and the other option. There must be a way to keep the light text on dark background without blinding us like now with this 0% grey.

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Rage Joe
By Rage Joe (Oct 5, 2012)

"Alternative colorschemes / skins"

A BIG mistake.

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Bob Meyer
By Bob Meyer (Oct 5, 2012)

I have to admit, I'm pretty impressed. By how much DPR missed the mark, that is. It manages to be worse than the old forums in many ways, without addressing the real weaknesses of the old software very well.

You'd have been better off just transitioning to one of the commercial forum tools, which are better in almost every respect than this mess.

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rjx
By rjx (Oct 5, 2012)

I completely agree!!

I wish DPR had a vBulletin forum. Nice and clean. Tried and true. Easy on the eyes, and everything is well laid out.

Comment edited 46 seconds after posting
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Lightshow
By Lightshow (Oct 5, 2012)

After posting the thread defaults to "Thread view" rather than my preference of "Flat view"

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