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Nikon D600 Preview updated with resolution and menu pages

By dpreview staff on Oct 23, 2012 at 00:34 GMT
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Updated: We've just added our resolution and menu pages to our hands-on preview of the Nikon D600. These latest pages have been added to the preview as we work towards the full review. Our final analysis of the D600's image quality will come later, but for now, click through to see for yourself how Nikon's newest 24MP DSLR performs against our resolution chart in both JPEG and Raw modes.

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Total comments: 51
Shamael
By Shamael (Oct 24, 2012)

try to compare what is comparable, thus equal. Take on all this the NEX-7, D3X and Sony A900, and then you compare. Set the first point in the box with the rolls and see what yous see, then place the point on the face of the queen of hearts and see, take the dime with the number "1200", the batteries, the head of Mykey and so on. Now, on the end my conclusion is that all those cameras focused on a different item on the setup, that all bring me the same resolution, that D3X, D600 and NEX-7 have the same good sharpness and detail, that NEX-7 is the best investment when it come to IQ and that your setup needs a serious dusting. NEX-7 shows me all dust on Myckey's head while D600 reveals all the dust on top of the globe. All the rest is talks and illusion only. The queen of hearts is my point to see how DOF acts and all 3 FF cameras show this in a clear way, too much DOF for a landscaper, excellent DOF for studio and portrait. On the end, is choose NEX. All i see in those FF cameras is $$$

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obeythebeagle
By obeythebeagle (Oct 24, 2012)

There are so many great cameras with amazing IQ that your point is valid that for price alone, the NEX7 has a niche for value. Also the Sigma Merrill compacts with Foveon Sensors. But in the world of dslrs, hats off to Nikon for the 600's quality/price ratio, as they presently offer a more compelling product than Sony or Canon at a better price.

There is a loose analogy to high end stereo equipment in terms of the law of diminishing returns. The quality has gotten so good in general that to get a small percent improvement, you need to spend a significant amount of money.

The consumer is the winner overall. Cell phone cameras are so great that point and shoots will need 1" sensors like the Nikon and Sony offerings to produce a substantial improvement. Next year there will probably be cameras like the Sony RX100 for $250!

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57even
By 57even (Oct 26, 2012)

Try and compare NEX7 with D600 at a range of ISO values to understand the difference. Resolution at base ISO is not that different for similar MP counts across most sensors, for a very obvious reason.

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57even
By 57even (Oct 23, 2012)

D600 IQ more or less as I expected. Perfectly adequate and competitive with it's class.

Now I don't have any issue with previews and publishing early views of parts of the review.

The complaint originally was that it took too long before you knew if a camera was worth buying or not. Now you can form an opinion much earlier. I find that useful.

Now the complaint is that people don't want to read the drip fed results before the final review. Why on earth not? Noone puts a gun to your head and forces you to read stuff.

Whatever DPReview does a bunch of people moan and wail like teenagers with science homework. If you have a beef, send it to DPR or post it on Open Talk - don't hijack posts with off topic BS. That's what is turning people off DPR, not the site itself.

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Kawika Nui
By Kawika Nui (Nov 8, 2012)

57even--
So true.

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Gesture
By Gesture (Oct 23, 2012)

More and more cameras released; more and more complex. Trying to cover all the bases. The only way to "catch up" is for DPReview to rethink review content and process. Overwrought doesn't necessarily mean definitive or authoritative.

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

That's why we have various different types of reviews, from the really really in-depth to quick update reviews (where a model is very similar to its predecessor) and then collaborative reviews (where we wouldn't normally be able to review the product at all). Cameras get released in gluts - Q4 of 2012 has been really busy, but the reviews are underway.

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kadardr
By kadardr (Oct 23, 2012)

'WE have'

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Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (Oct 25, 2012)

"but the reviews are underway."
And what is ETA on those "reviews" ? 2012 or 2013 or....
Do more reviews and no "previews" and everything will be fine.
Your "previews" are no more informative then manufactorers press releases and there are plenty of those.
If you don't have anything to publish then don't, even nothing is better then this c... you call previews.

Comment edited 24 seconds after posting
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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Oct 23, 2012)

can we have "ONE WORD" updates please??

a sentence or whole page is too much to read for me......

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inq_runoff
By inq_runoff (Oct 24, 2012)

+1

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Oct 23, 2012)

the D600 has a dust problem.

the sensor is attracting dust like george clooney woman.

that should be a headline.. nikon has to fix this.

4 upvotes
gdfthr73
By gdfthr73 (Oct 23, 2012)

I'm not sure but my Canon 5d II attracts serious dust as well. This may be a full frame issue. If your newly coming from a DX to full frame than you will certainly notice more dust on FX camera sensors.

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Ralf B
By Ralf B (Oct 23, 2012)

No such FF dust issue with my a900 compared to my APS-C Sony's a700 and a55.

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57even
By 57even (Oct 23, 2012)

Funny I have tested 12 lenses on this camera outdoors and the only dust mote was removed by the sensor cleaning in camera.

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Joe Braun
By Joe Braun (Oct 23, 2012)

Just post the bloody review already or put a cork in it until you're ready. I agree with the other posters below.

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Dave Luttmann
By Dave Luttmann (Oct 23, 2012)

Agreed. I'm getting tired of page by page updates. Finish the review and post it.

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

If you don't like reading the interstitial updates, don't read 'em. The final review isn't going to come any quicker if you just moan when we publish bits.... of the review.

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kadardr
By kadardr (Oct 23, 2012)

Customer focus

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inq_runoff
By inq_runoff (Oct 24, 2012)

Just get it, people don't like the "rolling review" feat.

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KerryBE
By KerryBE (Oct 24, 2012)

There are some of us who get value out of the rolling reviews. Some people do like them. Please don't put a cork in it.

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Joe Braun
By Joe Braun (Oct 24, 2012)

LOL Barney -- I'm just teasing about the announcement of the update which cannot be avoided by anybody who looks at the feed on the main page. I'm happy to not read your review until it is complete, but I will laugh if I see an announcement that Page 9 is ready next week. :)

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GeorgeZ
By GeorgeZ (Oct 23, 2012)

I cannot help but feel a bit of vindication LOL.
Funny thing is in the past I was almost alone when I critizised, now it seems most commenters feel that the site has taken a wrong turn.
God, before it was just Phil and his wife, then Simon and they got out more reviews (of their own) and now they have a bunch of web developers and news editors and still people feel there are less reviews.
As for "it's free": without us Phil wouldn't have been able to sell out and Simon wouldn't be in charge of a large operation.

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

We're doing much, much more than we ever did in the past, and for a broader audience. And the negative comments here are - ironically - being posted on a rolling preview. I.e., we're adding review content. We could just post nothing but silence until we're finished, but we'd rather get things out as they're ready, so you've got something to read.

3 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

And George - most commentators (even assuming that you're right, which I don't think you are) aren't representative of our broader audience.

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inq_runoff
By inq_runoff (Oct 24, 2012)

And, YES, some comments were moderated out. So it's +1 to "most commentators".

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gwenhael appere
By gwenhael appere (Oct 23, 2012)

Dear DPreview,
please go direct to the point. When the review is finished, post it. We don't need 3 or 4 updated previews in the meantime !

21 upvotes
moizes 2
By moizes 2 (Oct 23, 2012)

While I like DP, I can't say better...

1 upvote
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

@gwenhael - you're free not to read the updates. I really don't understand why you dislike this approach so much.

5 upvotes
alexandru
By alexandru (Oct 23, 2012)

Barney, maybe this quote will help you understand why:
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." G C

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

@alexandru - I don't think that's fair in this case, but I do take comfort from that quote, from time to time....

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Pijat
By Pijat (Oct 24, 2012)

Barney, you're representing DP..My advice is, if you don't have anything useful to write on other's feedback, just don't write at all.
Afterall, as I read your response on this stupidity quote, I don't know why I read "I think half of the forum readers are indeed stupid". Grow up...

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gwenhael appere
By gwenhael appere (Oct 28, 2012)

@ Barney : maybe my post didn't come out right. First, let me say that i love DPReview, and i'm reading the site every single day as a source of information. However, i feel that adding pages to an ongoing preview every few days does not make sense : either it is a PREview (and by definition, you had only a very limited time to see the basic functionalities and "feel" of the camera), or it is a REview (and you study the camera's capacities fully). In the middle, for me it is neither a preview nore a review.
Additionally, this may create unintended publicity for a certain model (everytime there's an update to the preview, you can see the number of clicks going up for the specific camera).
Please take this as a constructive comment, thanks !

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Kawika Nui
By Kawika Nui (Nov 8, 2012)

There is something wrong with people who get something for nothing (in this case, free product reviews PLUS a free bulletin board to inform the world of their opinions) and complain about it. You don't like the way dpreview does it? Option 1: don't use the site. Option 2: start your own site. Option 3: read user reviews on a site like Amazon. (This will make you long for the dpreview information.)
Bottom line: you "don't need" previews? Great! Don't use them! No one is forcing you to. There are people who make use of them, people who think any information is better than none at all.

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gl2k
By gl2k (Oct 23, 2012)

I'd like to see a reference so I can compare.
Say ... a D800E or Hasselblad image side by side to the D600 image and next to a 12 mpx D700.

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Michael_13
By Michael_13 (Oct 23, 2012)

Then go and see. The pictures from the Nikons are on this site. ;-)

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Lea5
By Lea5 (Oct 23, 2012)

Where's the D4 review? I can't find it.

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Dan
By Dan (Oct 23, 2012)

People that need to buy a camera like that don't need reviews.

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voland354
By voland354 (Oct 23, 2012)

so where is the pentax k-30 review? i know u guys are busy even i know it takes time to wrap it up!! but u almost finished the whole review already!!! just need to add that conclusion and some other aspects. does it really takes few months time?
by the way i do not want to be rude, i was just wondering about it.

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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ProfHankD
By ProfHankD (Oct 23, 2012)

Ok, so let's compare this to the also 24MP, but APS-C, NEX-7.

Looks darn similar to me. Ok, go to the studio scene comparison and compare to the NEX-7 both JPEG and raw. Above ISO 400 raw, the NEX-7 does seem to have a touch more noise, but it's also sharper. The A77, with its SLT mirror, is a closer match to the D600 sharpness.

So, my question is: in general, do most FF lenses have off-axis IQ fall off fast enough so that 24MP works better for a central APS-C crop than FF?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 23, 2012)

Except on of these cameras can be uses above ISO 3200.

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Shamael
By Shamael (Oct 24, 2012)

Yes, D600 has less noise at 6400 ISO it is in noise comparable to NEX-7 at 2500, but, the AA filter takes away much of the sharpness NEX has. No AA filter makes NEX cameras, same as Sony RX1,fragile in moire pattern issues. For sure we can't have it all. Never forget that D600 is same resolution in pixel size as a 12 mpix APSC, so compare the fine detail to the D300 shot, not to the one of a NEX-7. It is not the pixel count that does it in detail and noise, it is the pitch, and for sure, there are limits to this. D800 sensor is comparable to a 18 mpix APSC, and you see this when you look at shots taken with it, the difference is visible right away if you compare to D600. I have compared RX1, A99 and D600, same as A900, D3X, shots to NEX-7 shots and have not seen anything there that would make me turn to FF. Dynamic range in FF is some better, but not truckloads ahead, and high ISO performance is for those who need that. I shoot architecture in the night at ISO200 on tripod. So, what?

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Shamael
By Shamael (Oct 24, 2012)

On long time basis, you will all find out that FF is not the yolk of an egg, it has advantages and disadvantages. All is what you look for on the end, and 85% of all those who shoot FF do this only because it is FF, it is a tick in their brain. The picture will not show anything of it and excellent APSC sensors can compete with it without any doubt, despite all DXO can preach in your head. When i see the arguments I read on forums, all this ISO stuff, this DR stuff that IQ stuff, that button problems, all that is things we pull by the end of hair only. It is not so long time ago that we had 400 iso as a limit and no screen on the back to compare. If i see the shots made with my D70 and D200 once, I still say to myself, "Man, that was a wonderful tools, it made super good shots". If I look at those of my Fuji S5, I say to myself that we are far away to find a DSLR that produces such images without any rework or color correction. Why did Fuji drop this outstanding sensor system?

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Dan
By Dan (Oct 25, 2012)

The S5 is one mess of a camera. I still have one. The images it produces are inferior to those from a D300 (except for dynamic range and skin tones). Every once in a while, I dig it out to play with it but then I put it away after I remember why I stopped using it. I think I'm finally going to get rid of it now that I have a D600.

I shoot frequently at ISO3200, so I can tell you that I am thrilled with being able to use even higher ISOs on my D600. I remember the day that I was willing to pay $4000+ for the Fuji S1 because it could shoot at ISO1600 but we are long past that. I feel comfortable shooting up to ISO 25,000 on my D600. New doors are opening, and there's no turning back. The D600 is awesome!

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Oct 23, 2012)

You guys are really taking your time with this...

The review count is slowing to a trickle, too. No "native" reviews (not dcr, not previews, not cell phones) posted since the SLT-A57 was uploaded on Sept 13th.

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

We've been publishing content on the D600 since we got one in the office. And - oddly - Sept 13th was Photokina. You'd expect that reviews would slow down as we chugged through the many many many news stories, previews and sample galleries that we posted around that show.

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Oct 24, 2012)

I realize Photokina takes time away from reviews, but look how much other content you've posted in interval: Everyday there is some new article, or you review a cellphone, or talk about the iPad.

And while some novels are serialized, what you are doing with the D600 review is the equivalent of JK Rowling publishing a Harry Potter novel half a chapter at a time. It's frustrating and annoying. It might be "review content" but it comes across as a desperate bid for page hits. I think you are taking hits ... but to your credibility, rather. People don't appreciate being strung along like this.

I'm a curmudgeon. I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm just letting you know I liked it better the old way. Sniff.

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
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Ciriacus
By Ciriacus (Oct 23, 2012)

Not another preview, we want at least some of the missing full reviews!!

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Oct 23, 2012)

This is review content.

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abolit
By abolit (Oct 24, 2012)

no need for any reviews. D600 is not worth it. Read the one for D7000 , same thing but full frame. Same lifeless & washed colors.

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DidierV
By DidierV (Oct 23, 2012)

Impressive ! raw comparison holds very well against the D800 and the Canon 5D Mk III, both much more expensive.

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