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Just deployed: New dpreview.com forums system

By dpreview staff on Oct 3, 2012 at 21:29 GMT

We've just deployed the redesigned forum system - the biggest single change we've made since our forums were created, over 13 years ago. As discussed in an earlier news post, the new software will closely match the behavior of the existing system but with a range of additional features and with scope for further expansion in the future. We've sifted through the feedback from the preview announcement we made last week and have developed a list of requested features that we will start working on.

Existing feedback:

From our first round of feedback we have identified a series of features that we will be implementing in the coming weeks and months, including:

  • 'm.forums' mobile-device-friendly version of the forums
  • Alternative colorschemes / skins
  • 'Ignore thread' option
  • 'Mark as read' option for threads
  • Additional requested tweaks and improvements

But we've listened to all the feedback and will continue to add features and behavioral adjustments.

Clarification on user moderation:

We would also like to make a clarification about community moderation and the role of down-voting in the new forums. When we talk about community moderation, we are referring to a group of hand-picked moderators who have volunteered from within the forums communities and whose actions will be overseen, not simply entrusting moderation to up- and down-voting. We will also be working very carefully when setting thresholds for any systems based on voting so that they can't be easily rigged. These systems will not be introduced until we think they can be introduced in a way that truly benefits the community.

More features coming

In addition to the requested tweaks and feature additions that were requested in the first round of feedback, there are a series of features that the new system will allow us to add. These include:

  • User reviews
  • User articles / blog posts
  • User polls
  • Better filtering (time / date ranges ...)
  • Trending / hot stuff page
  • Better integration with product pages (ability to ask / see questions on product pages...)

More feedback wanted

However, we know that a change this big will inevitably have a few teething troubles and features that need to be fine-tuned, so we're looking for feedback on any bugs you spot or changes you think have to be made. Please send your feedback using this webform, where they will be monitored to help make the new forums as enjoyable as possible.

Comments

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tedandtricia
By tedandtricia (Jan 13, 2013)

Is there a moderator in the For Sale forum? There are tons of threads of items already sold but are still showing up as open threads because the owner posted a message stating it is sold but did not change the thread status to thread closed. Sort of makes the View Open Threads Only feature kind of useless. Seems perfect for a little moderator assistance.

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aja2
By aja2 (Oct 27, 2012)

Gah. The color scheme is changing for the worse... and now 'ignored' people's threads are no longer 'grayed out' - wassup with that? It was so much nicer when they were relegated to the bottom of the page. *sigh*

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Dan
By Dan (Oct 19, 2012)

Can you please let us see who is voting? This should reduce the childishness of some of the votes. OR please get rid of the negative votes. It breeds all kinds of negative feelings, reducing the number of people that want to come here.

1 upvote
WilbaW
By WilbaW (Oct 17, 2012)

No sad smileys in the forums? :-(

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Oct 16, 2012)

Dpreview, please, please, -Please- don't keep defaulting us to the 'threaded view' in the forums (unless there is a new some new advanced setting to change this that I missed??) Thanks in advance! It would be so nice to be able to customize this, so that everyone could be happy. I know I am not the only one flabbergasted by this seemingly small annoyance, which adds up over time as it grates on the nerves due to it happening so many, many times over the years for a frequent visitor!

1 upvote
Jim Cockfield
By Jim Cockfield (Oct 20, 2012)

Some of us that have been around for a long time prefer the benefits the Threaded View provides, and we think that Phil was a real genius in designing the forums that way to begin with.

The "flat" view didn't come until much later, and made it much harder to view forum threads and find the responses you're looking for, versus the much simpler Threaded View that the forums started out with. Of course, the "Flat View' also adds to I/O requirements and bandwidth usage, making it harder and more expensive to give you that view versus the much nicer Threaded View.
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Personally, I'd get rid of the "flat view" entirely and stick with the [far more] efficient Threaded View for forum threads.

But, to each, their own, as I guess the dpreview.com staff has to accommodate forum users that don't realize how the flat view detracts versus enhances forums usability.

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PhilPreston3072
By PhilPreston3072 (Oct 15, 2012)

Can we revert to the previous system of displaying images where you could click twice to view at 100%?

The current system doesn't allow viewing at 100% unless I open a new tab to view their gallery and click on the corresponding image. It's such a hassle when someone on the forum asks if you think their photos are soft.

For example: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3283120

2 upvotes
zoozig
By zoozig (Oct 15, 2012)

And could you please also give an IQ test to people before posting their comments?

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 15, 2012)

I don't take DPR takes requests from lurkers. Although I could be wrong.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 15, 2012)

That would be 'think' ... for the IQ challenged :)

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doto41
By doto41 (Oct 15, 2012)

Why did so many of my bookmarks disappear???

Why do the uploaded shots look less worse than before???

1 upvote
Karl Gnter Wnsch
By Karl Gnter Wnsch (Oct 14, 2012)

I can't wait for the day when the wretched, unstable and misleading WISIWIG mode get's binned. The voting war malarchy doesn't help either and the lack of ability to contact the moderators and the lack of feedback from them doesn't make the situation any better! Please return sanity to the forum by binning the whole mess!

5 upvotes
lylejk
By lylejk (Oct 14, 2012)

Still waiting on a fix for the url link button; I'm using IE8. Gave up expecting that the placment of an image will automatically be below chosen text (though it would be nice if that would be the default behavior). :)

1 upvote
aja2
By aja2 (Oct 13, 2012)

I know you just put out a poll re: voting up/down, but you kinda stacked it in favor of keeping it - in one form or another - 3 to 1.

Bummer.

At least in forum that I participate in, the 'up/down' wars are evident and I'm rather sick of them already. People who hate each other vote each others' posts down no matter what they say, photos get voted down, even if they're nice, and one person has started 2 threads about it and the fur's flying all over the place...

I've had enough.

Whatever you have to do to stop this nonsense can't happen too soon.

Meaning: I'm wanting to see gear & photo threads, not petty up/down wars & useless threads that have no bearing on photography. Yeah I know I can ignore them, but if threads started by people who were on ignore were relegated back down to the bottom of the page like they used to be, they'd be 'out of sight, out of mind' and I'd just see the threads that pertain to my hobby.

Sorry for the rant, but I liked the 'regular' bickering better!

4 upvotes
Camediadude
By Camediadude (Oct 16, 2012)

I wanted to say this exact same thing regarding the poll but held my tongue up untill now for whatever reason. I do not think they did it intentionally, but you are right. It is totally stacked and unscientific. A much better way would have been to offer three options: keep it, scrap it, and 'make some changes to it.'
Also, I noticed the option for 'scrapping it' was winning but then a bunch of votes were removed and 'keep it' was shown to be in the lead, in a short amount of time. Maybe there was voter fraud there, who knows. Sad that it looks like they might keep it now ... I am a very long time lurker here on the forums, and have been wanting to actually get involved as I just got a new (new to me) UZI :P and I do participate in some other forums on the web. But, this 'popularity contest' which I have always hated is discouraging!

2 upvotes
Gar Ber
By Gar Ber (Oct 12, 2012)

Why is there no more "Loading" when you enlarge a picture in forum and it is not loaded completely yet in the larger version (as it still works in the gallery and as it did before the forum change)? A couple of times now I've just been staring at a picture and thinking: "Now that's some bad quality snapshot" only to discover it hasn't even finished loading yet.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 11, 2012)

Simon.. or whom ever - Are you guys aware of... or actively looking into the "Reply With Quote" bug? This new format makes it very VERY frustrating to properly prune out and insert text when replying to a post that contains quoted content from one or more posters. It can quite literally crash the browser (IE 8.. and sometimes Firefox) - It would be so sweet to have the option in user settings to go to non-wysiwyg mode .. and then have a preview window below as was how the old forum was setup.

3 upvotes
Jim Cockfield
By Jim Cockfield (Oct 12, 2012)

+1

Yep.. Or at least let members know the type of code tags that can be used in posts ( BBCode, HTML, or other).

Most forums have a way to disable WYSIWYG so that you can see the underling code tags. That's helpful in many ways (especially if you happen to be using a browser that doesn't "play nice" with a forum's WYSIWYG features, as I've already seen reported since the changes were made).

In the interim, I've been doing things like using > in front of text I want to quote when answering posts (as I usually separate the quoted text and insert answers in between quoted questions. But, > doesn't work with the new forums software like it used to.

So, it would be nice to know what does work. IOW, does [quote] quoted text [/quote] work, or are different code tags needed? More info on how the WYSIWYG editor works would be nice to have, as well as a way to disable that feature, along with previews so you know how your edits will look if you use any supported code tags..

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Jim Cockfield
By Jim Cockfield (Oct 12, 2012)

P.S.

My vote would be to use BBCode (like forums using vBulletin, phpBB, wowBB and others use), with a way to disable WYSIWYG, along with a preview feature so you can see how your post will look.

IMO, as it stands right now, WYSIWYG causes more issues than it helps (not all browsers work with it, there are no obvious code tags available to help with features like selectively quoting text, no way to disable WYSIWYG to see any underlying code tags, no way to preview posts to see how your code tags will look if you did support them).

Even word processors usually have a way to see underlying code tags they have available, and the same thing applies to many popular forums software packages. Sure, WYSIWYG can be a nice feature for forums. But, if you don't allow any flexibility using it (as in having a way to disable it, supporting code tags with post previews, etc.), then I'd prefer not having WYSIWYG at all.

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HSway
By HSway (Oct 11, 2012)

Question - Will the links in the signature be active?
Hynek

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Dan
By Dan (Oct 11, 2012)

I just thought of a new idea after reading some people's posts. Instead of or in addition to the existing rating system, you could have other sub-ratings such as SNOB or NOOB, maybe with different names. That way people will be more careful in their wording and/or use the search feature more often. Other sub-ratings could include BALANCED/CORDIAL, FLAME or TROLL.

You could also allow a user to re-edit their post so that they can earn the coveted BALANCED/CORDIAL rating. Once a post is edited, the original ratings would disappear so that people can start fresh but maybe if they abuse the system, the old rating would come back or there could be other penalties.

I think this could reduce the childishness of some of the replies.

1 upvote
Dan
By Dan (Oct 11, 2012)

Regarding the poll on the voting system...maybe you could allow the user to turn off the display of the votes. It seems split 50:50 on keeping it the way it is vs. dumping it. I personally would prefer only showing the likes but that's just me. Maybe you can let the user decide what he or she wants to see. I also would like to see who is actually voting.

3 upvotes
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 11, 2012)

Agreed ... If DPR keeps the like/dislike system... the voters should be shown..... Otherwise just keep the like and get rid of the dislike voting. imho

3 upvotes
Jim Cockfield
By Jim Cockfield (Oct 11, 2012)

This may have already been reported. But, one issue with the new layout is that when you click on a post in your own recent activity list, or in another member's recent activity, you're taken the the first post in the thread.

So, you have to scroll through the thread to find the one clicked on. With the old forums software, you were taken directly to the post you clicked on.

Another issue is that the Complaint button doesn't have a way to add more info now. If you look at member names Mattfart, Dannyloff, Raffaelken alen, Raffaelken Srarawat, and GabrielNar, they all recently joined and making posts plugging the same product (probably the same person using different e-mail addresses, etc.). See their posts in this thread:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/39337044

Here's a thread someone started about that issue 2 days ago (spammers promoting the same product), and the spam is still there (despite being reported):

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50027884

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Michel J
By Michel J (Oct 10, 2012)

Michel J wrote:
> I love it except for the votes!
> It would be better to have only "+" gradation because:
> • if no "+" was be added, no need to say more ;)
> • if no "-" no personal bashing is possible (then, the vote would concern only positive things...)
> (btw: It's me or I don't see a "Post Preview" for the messages? If so... why it disappeared?)
> Big Thanks for all this good job !

Hé héé...

Have a "Poll" about it...! (Column to the right on this page...)

To be right dPr, you must choose the ones that have less votes..

You know why? :-)

Kind Regards,

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sjkro
By sjkro (Oct 10, 2012)

Bug:
When in flat view, ignored users are no longer ignored :(

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Oct 10, 2012)

The 'thumbs up/down' voting system should be dropped from the forums, and be used only for these news articles. We aren't kids, and this isn't facebook, thanks.

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Oct 10, 2012)

(even though I admit we CAN be kind of child-like (blush)..Thanks.

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Oct 10, 2012)

And by we, sigh, I guess I really mean "I" :P

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em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 9, 2012)

I like the voting/liking system. Just saying this others who like it can like this :)

2 upvotes
PhotoKhan
By PhotoKhan (Oct 9, 2012)

Having the "My threads" link under the "Forums" tab just does not seem logical.

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montygm
By montygm (Oct 9, 2012)

Hi guys!
Did someone mention on a much earlier post that you can change the colour and layout of the page view? Had a look everywhere on my DP pages and cannot find anything remotely close. Help!!!!!!
Thanks, Grace.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 9, 2012)

expanded / collapsed (in lists) and blue/yellow is at the bottom of the page.

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montygm
By montygm (Oct 9, 2012)

Hi Simon,
Thanks for quick reply. Have scrolled down the forums page and there is nothing on bottom that gives me any options. I am using Safari on my Mac.
Thanks, Grace.

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em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 9, 2012)

Hey Simon and gang -

Layout idea:

I think you need to vertically shrink the stuff that appears above the actual thread names in this view:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/1021

That can easily be achieved by moving the "View Mode" controls into the bar immediately above it that has tons of blank, empty space in it. Also, even after it is moved, the entire bar could be vertically compacted a bit. This would allow more topics to fit on a page view that is currently nav heavy. You could maybe even put the forum description blurb in that bar... It's just weird to come to a page and get 75 percent banner+nav and only 25 percent pre-scroll content.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 8, 2012)

Still no spell checker?? I just realized through all of the changes etc. .. there's no built in spell checking engine in these new forums?? Or am I missing a setting somewhere? Anyone....?

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John King
By John King (Oct 9, 2012)

Gidday NW

I have always used IESPELL. Apart from a few oddities, it seems to work OK with all kinds of s/w. Only works with IE though.

regards, john

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 9, 2012)

@Gidday

That's what I use as well, but while editing a post a couple of hours ago, the thought had occurred to me to try look for one that's built into the new forum engine.

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em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 8, 2012)

Simon -

A bug on italic text (not sure if this is already noted below or not):

On two occasions now, which is 100 percent of the occasions on which I have tried to use italic text in the new system, the text which I had italicized disappeared upon post, and I had to re-edit the message to add the italic text back in. Apparently it only disappears during an initial post and not during edits.

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rjx
By rjx (Oct 8, 2012)

Some general forum ideas:

- 'Forum Feedback' section
A section where the forum users and moderators / administrators can chat about forum features. Users could ask "how to," or post comments and questions regarding the forum.

- 'Intermediate' section
There's sections dedicated to 'Beginners Questions' and 'Pro Digital Talk,' how about a section for photographers that fall in between?

- 'Member Activities' section
Forum users could dedicate individual threads for a specific region. An example:
A thread titled 'Anyone From NYC?' or 'NYC Meetups' could be used for DPR members located in the NYC area, or for those planning to move or visit on a holiday.

Members could organize meetups, ask where to shoot, or discuss interesting local events that would offer good photo opportunities. Members could also share photos with each other.

I think a section dedicated for activities could add to the 'sense of community.'

1 upvote
Simon Cowell
By Simon Cowell (Oct 8, 2012)

Shame, a nice format having to become worse in order to become better...

A put-off for me, the site looks like an 'also-run' in spite of the new functionality and features. It's probably the kiss of death for visitors like me.

3 upvotes
TKinVA
By TKinVA (Oct 8, 2012)

Just a suggestion, but since you are interested in feedback and bug reports (both technical and philosophical), why don't you move this post, along with its comments to some permanent place where it is easy for all to access?

If you don't, it will eventually scroll away and future input will be lost.

3 upvotes
Oli4D
By Oli4D (Oct 8, 2012)

I also don't see any use of the voting system. At least not as long as it is not transparent. There are some trolls in the forums who vote down everything they don't like.
Some people just show some pictures and ask for C&C... and all they get is a bunch of "thumps down".
That's just completely useless.
"thumps up" and "complain" are ok. But "thumps down" is of no use at all. It's just a tool for trolls to vote down whatever they hate or disagree with.

3 upvotes
Camediadude
By Camediadude (Oct 8, 2012)

Please, for the love of mercy, don't default us to the threaded view!! Even after the changeover to the new design, I STILL have to keep selecting 'flat view' ... So, if you can please let us go into our settings, and change it one way or another, just ONE time ... and then it is set to that default setting until we change it again, then I would be EXTREMELY grateful. Thanks in advance.

5 upvotes
Sarge_
By Sarge_ (Oct 8, 2012)

The old system was a total shiet-show of life-long pixel-hunting trolls. I hope this one turns out better.

1 upvote
Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 8, 2012)

@Roger E.

Agreed 100%

@Gidday Roger

Complain buttons are useless .. and I'll tell you why. Complaints to through to people who a lot of times don't even participate in the forums and have no contextual clue as to how or why the complaint came about or the history of the complainer.

I would much prefer to see openly identified moderators who participate in the forums on a regular basis. Moderators that can't be identified, also can't be held accountable. That is the ONE big thing I hate about these forums is the lack of moderation.... and when it is moderated, it's done knee jerk and often times without explaination. Each forum should have at LEAST two fully active identifiable moderators. imho

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John King
By John King (Oct 8, 2012)

Gidday NW

That's exactly the case on an un-related forum where I am a moderator.

A user checks to see which members are logged in, and there's the name of a moderator or two ... ;).

Like seeing Police on patrol/foot patrol, it helps keep the peace simply by being visible.

That's not to say there should not be a COMPLAINT button. There is one on that other forum. Things that are getting out of hand are usually brought back into line and civility merely by a moderator or SysAdmin mentioning in the thread that they are "on patrol". Very rare that anyone gets sent to the sin bin, but it does happen ...

regards, john

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Roger Engelken
By Roger Engelken (Oct 8, 2012)

Dump the "voting" system please. Not all of us are teenagers consumed with the facebook, amazon and the twitter generation. Get rid that garbage and allow dpreview to rise well above the mediocrity of today's social media.

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John King
By John King (Oct 8, 2012)

Gidday Roger

I don't disagree ...
However, I also like the idea of having only two buttons, not three buttons - "LIKE" and "COMPLAIN" - the latter for written complaints to DPR, as suggested by another poster in that thread.

regards, john

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em_dee_aitch
By em_dee_aitch (Oct 9, 2012)

Disagree. I love the voting system. It makes it very clear which users are trolls. Nothing's funnier on this forum than seeing Nippondenso, for example, have only negative votes on his posts. It sends a message to new users whose posts are generally useless.

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fad
By fad (Oct 7, 2012)

It has been pointed out to me that the new system is unsuitable for posting images.

The images as posted now on dpreview are seriously compromised and do not reflect the original image. You have to open the original image to see the photographers artistic intent.

It's easy enough to test this. Post a nice color jpg from your drive of 1024 or larger pixel maximum edge. Compare the posting to the original.

You don't even have to do this much work. Find a nice photo and compare the image in the post with the original behind it.

If this is not corrected, it may not be possible to keep posting images on dpreview.

Edit: I see that this is addressed below, but more information would be helpful. Is there a maximum pixel size that will prevent images from being mangled?

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Ron Poelman
By Ron Poelman (Oct 7, 2012)

How do I search these 677 replies to find out
how to turn on signatures ?
I'm sure it's in here somewhere.

1 upvote
photophile
By photophile (Oct 7, 2012)

The whole vote +1 or -1 thing is puerile & childish for an informative, premiere website such as DPreview - pandering heavily to the teenage facebook/youtube generation. DPreview´s hand has probably been forced by Amazon to include the feature to help with their sales (despite DPrevew telling us they are "independent"). But we do have a choice - just DON´T use it. Let Amazon figure out its own sales strategy and let DPreview feel the full force of ownership by a larger organisation.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 7, 2012)

i'd be really interested to know how this feature could help, or hinder, amazon's sales. I'm all for a good conspiracy theory but I mean, really?

5 upvotes
photophile
By photophile (Oct 7, 2012)

Stop being patronising Simon. You know full well how advertisers on twitter/youtube/facebook use exactly this feature to ascertain market trends without actively soliciting for it. All they did was dig a shallow hole, cover it with some leaves and along came DPreview, whistling innocently - and fell straight into it.

2 upvotes
johnduncan
By johnduncan (Oct 7, 2012)

Sadly I can't '-1' this, but if I could, how would that help Amazon?

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 7, 2012)

i'm not being patronising. I would love to know which valuable market trends could be identified by analysing likes/dislikes of forum posts which, for the most part, consist of people arguing over obscure technical details and calling each other trolls?

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Mike CH
By Mike CH (Oct 8, 2012)

Simon, are you saying that there isn't really any use for the voting?

Because that is what I read out of your replies. And then I really wonder why it was put in in the first place?

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 8, 2012)

i'm saying (and i can't believe i'm having this argument) they have no commercial use to Amazon, were not designed to help Amazon's sales strategy and will be of ZERO interest to advertisers. They're there to help the millions of lurkers / new visitors get an idea of what the community thought of a thread or post. It's not rocket science.

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MichaelIsGreat4
By MichaelIsGreat4 (Oct 7, 2012)

After using this new layout, I have discovered quite a few new and good features and I now do not prefer the older layout compared to this new one.

This new layout will be accepted by the majority over time.

4 upvotes
konradsa
By konradsa (Oct 7, 2012)

I don't really like the new style forum. It's not a very compact presentation, which makes it really hard to scan over the topics on a smartphone or tablet.

3 upvotes
Amin Sabet
By Amin Sabet (Oct 7, 2012)

As I mentioned earlier, I like the new system. Just wanted to add that I'm looking forward to a more phone-friendly forum system. I'm sure that is in the works!

1 upvote
JPMontez
By JPMontez (Oct 7, 2012)

There may still be some bugs to eliminate, but as I am getting used to the new forums system I enjoy it more and more. Thanks for the effort DPReview.

2 upvotes
windmillgolfer
By windmillgolfer (Oct 7, 2012)

No longer able to use the Reply facility to threads/posts when using iPad - a real bummer.

Love the ability to embed images direct from PC.

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John King
By John King (Oct 7, 2012)

What's the point of having images uploaded to my web site at 1024 x 768, when this site re-sizes them to 940 x 705? I haven't seen a desktop or laptop monitor as small as that for many years ...

The IQ also seems to drop off rather badly ...

BTW, thanks for all the effort that everyone has put in so far to bring the new code into being, and fixing the inevitable bugs and glitches. Shaping up pretty well, IMHO.

Hope some of you have had at least SOME sleep ...

regards, john

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 7, 2012)

it's on the list (this one will take a little longer)

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John King
By John King (Oct 7, 2012)

Thanks Simon

I realise that there is a "full image" tag, but it gets disconnected from the image as the image is moved to its "correct" position in the post from the (usually) wrong default insertion point ...

On another point, have you got a CHANGELOG by any chance?
If we could check it, it would save us bringing up points that have already been raised.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

regards, john

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lylejk
By lylejk (Oct 7, 2012)

Wow; most news threads would be lucky to get to 100 comment entries, but this news thread's got over 650. I wonder why? lolololol

:)

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 7, 2012)

This is the kind of attitude i genuinely don't understand

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tnielsen
By tnielsen (Oct 6, 2012)

Haven't used the new forum that much yet, but rather like it.
One little thing which I am sure is an error and not by design:

When reading a thread and clicking the 'forum' link to return to thread list .. you are sent to page 1 and not to the page of the current thread. Really anoying.

Best regards and thanks for your work

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Dan
By Dan (Oct 6, 2012)

After experiencing the thumbs up and down system, I just realized something that could improve the overall user experience. You could make it visible who up or down-rates a post (similar to how you can see who "likes" a Facebook post). This way we can see if the same people doing the rating. This would resolve a lot of childish fights and make people think twice about rating a post.

4 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 6, 2012)

it's on the list

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Mark H
By Mark H (Oct 7, 2012)

I think this is a very, very, bad idea.

Revealing who' likes', and in particular who 'dislikes', messages is just 'pouring fuel on the fire' of already quite appalling amounts of forum trolling and abuse.

It is far more likely to discourage people from rating posts altogether, which completely defeats its purpose.

In an election, there is a good reason why voters choices are kept secret.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 7, 2012)

I agree with Dan on this one.
I think it's an EXCELLENT idea - It will put an end REAL QUICK to forum bullying and wolf-pack attacks on individuals. It will promote positive feedback... and will make those who vote negatively accountable for their actions/opinons. imho

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ck3
By ck3 (Oct 7, 2012)

"In an election, there is a good reason why voters choices are kept secret."

Not sure about that analogy. Most are not registered with their "real" name and the "real life" repercussions that would probably result out of a non secret ballot in elections are not likely in a forum.

As to the point that rating posts may be discouraged: in a way that would not be such a bad thing because right now (admittedly: maybe because everybody is trying out the new toy) I've got the feeling that the votes are handed out with far too little discretion as to make them informative in the least.
For the posts I downvoted so far I would mind if my name was displayed with the vote.
As to abuse due to voting (and by voting) - that would be task for the new moderators.
P.S.: And please make public the information who in the current system upvoted their own posts ;-)

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Earthlight
By Earthlight (Oct 7, 2012)

Simon, in case you will make the votes public I suggest the negative voting option is removed altogether. Othervise there will be no end to stalking and bullying.

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onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 6, 2012)

So how do we mark the material as quoted? ">" used to work, but no longer. The editor sometimes inexplicably strips quotation when one starts editing, and there doesn't seem to be any way to mark as quoted again.

em_dee_aitch's idea of 9 hours ago to allow the use of markup would be a good solution. No longer wonder what the heck the editor is doing, just type the [blockquote] (or whatever) code yourself, and Bob's your uncle.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 6, 2012)

My browser outright crashes sometimes when editing out content.

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onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 7, 2012)

... (ignore, cannot remove comments :| :)

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 6, 2012)

IMPROVEMENTS / SUGGESTIONS - PART 3

I much prefer the old white text on black/dark background when composing/reading posts. I wish there was a user option for that.

And Last but not least … why doesn’t the forum frame (boundaries) auto expand to the users chosen display resolution? Why do you have it locked to one set resolution?
There is so much dead space on either side of the forum frames. In my case a full one third of my horizontal monitor space is unused. In fact, come to think of it... your whole web site is like that.

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Trensamiro
By Trensamiro (Oct 6, 2012)

You can consider yourself fortunate. As any photographer worth their salt I have a good, calibrated, HD monitor (1920 x 1200) and you know what, half the display's real estate is a black void with no information whatsoever while the forum text appears in a ridiculously narrow strip in the center.

Most any other forum will expand its contents to fill the window, no matter how wide the resolution, no problem at all. This one doesn't, god knows why, not that it would be rocket science precisely.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 7, 2012)

@Trensamiro

I'm hoping Simon can answer that question .. he was around a few hours ago answering other posts. Hopefully he'll get around to this one. I honestly don't know how the poor man finds anytime to sleep.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 7, 2012)

so we can't do much about the fixed width without designing the entire site... except... we're looking at offering a dedicated forum window that you can make as wide as you want (personally i like to read in columns rather than 300-word wide lines but I'm all for choice)

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 6, 2012)

IMPROVEMENTS / SUGGESTIONS - PART 2

When viewing large full res posted shots, they only expand up to the borders of the forum frames (boundaries). I can understand why this was done – It helps to keep the content within certain limits when viewing the forums with an ipad, etc. However, I would suggest that this be the default with a user option to go beyond the forum frames as was the case in the older forums. Being able to zoom in to full res on the fly sets this forum apart from most other forums. I really .. REALLY miss that.

Incorporate some sort of WYSIWYG preview / off / on user setting. WYSIWYG can be very cumbersome and buggy when trying to selectively trim content in a reply containing multiple posters … especially where shots are included in the posts.

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Nightwings
By Nightwings (Oct 6, 2012)

IMPROVEMENTS / SUGGESTIONS - PART 1

The fixes are coming quick. Very nice to see.

In long threads .. the Subject title....Posted by..... When..... Votes. content no longer bleeds into the right advertisement panes. Nicely Done!

When opening a thread ... each reply / post consumes only ONE line .... AGAIN... very nicely done!

Top posters are now back at the forum level! Again... Nicely Done.. TY

My outstanding beefs/suggestions

Carry that same model (The look once you get into a thread) over to when you first go into a forum. In other words, each subject line should have only ONE line. Truncate the long subject titles instead of displaying them in their entirety. Just like the old forums did. You would of course have to remove the second line in "Last Post" that states the name of the last poster and just leave the time of last post in ... again... as it was the case in the old forums. Hovering over with the mouse could reveal that kind of extra info.

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