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Adobe releases Camera Raw 7.2 and Lightroom 4.2, adding 21 cameras

By dpreview staff on Oct 3, 2012 at 17:51 GMT

Adobe has released the final versions of Adobe Camera Raw 7.2 and Lightroom 4.2. The latest updates bring finalized support for 21 additional cameras, including the Sony A99 and RX100, the Fujifilm X-E1 and the Canon EOS M. Lightroom gains tethering support for 11 cameras, including the Nikon D800 and Canon EOS 5D Mark III. It also adds support for 'Albums' in its uploader to the Revel service. Updates are available through the in-software update systems.

Both updates also provides preliminary support for the Nikon D600. A footnote on Adobe's Lightroom blog explains: "The support for Nikon D600 is preliminary and there is a minor risk that the appearance of your images may change when the final support for Nikon D600 is available in an upcoming release."


Press Release:

Adobe Announces Lightroom 4.2 and Camera Raw 7.2 Final Releases

Adobe today announced the availability of Lightroom 4.2 and Camera Raw 7.2 final releases on Adobe.com. The updates add Album Support within the Revel Publish Service; bring additional raw file support for 21 new cameras including the Canon EOS 650D/Rebel T4i, Fujifilm X-E1 and Sony DSC-RX100; provide tethered capture support for 11 new cameras; and preliminary support for the Nikon D600 camera. Comprehensive lists of newly supported cameras for raw file and tethered capture are provided below.

Added raw file support:

  • Canon EOS 650D / Rebel T4i
  • Canon EOS M
  • Fujifilm XF1
  • Fujifilm X-E1
  • Fuji FinePix F800EXR
  • Leaf Credo 40
  • Leaf Credo 60
  • Leica S
  • Leica D-LUX 6
  • Leica V-LUX 4
  • Nikon Coolpix P7700
  • Nikon 1 J2
  • Panasonic DMC-G5
  • Panasonic DMC-LX7
  • Panasonic DMC-FZ200
  • Pentax K-30
  • Samsung EX2F
  • Sony Alpha NEX-5R
  • Sony Alpha NEX-6
  • Sony Alpha SLT-A99V
  • Sony DSC-RX100

Added tethered capture support:

  • Nikon D4
  • Nikon D800
  • Nikon D800e
  • Canon EOS Kiss X5
  • Canon EOS Kiss REBEL T3i
  • Canon EOS 600D
  • Canon EOS Kiss X50
  • Canon EOS REBEL T3
  • Canon EOS 1100D
  • Canon EOS 5D Mark III
  • Canon EOS 1D X

In addition, the Lightroom 4.2 and Camera Raw 7.2 final releases correct issues reported in their initial releases.  Special thanks to all community members who contributed feedback via the community-powered site: feedback.photoshop.com.

Lightroom is the essential digital photography workflow solution, helping serious amateur and professional photographers quickly import, manage, enhance and showcase all their images within one application. The Photoshop Camera Raw plug-in provides fast and easy access to raw image formats produced by many leading digital cameras.

Pricing and Availability

Lightroom 4.2 is available as a free download for Lightroom 4 customers, and the Camera Raw plug-in is available as a free download for Photoshop CS6 customers; both are available for Mac and Windows. For additional information, please visit the Adobe Lightroom blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/ 

Customers may also connect with the Lightroom team directly on Facebook (www.facebook.com/lightroom) or via Twitter (www.twitter.com/lightroom).

Comments

Total comments: 103
ed kelly
By ed kelly (Oct 10, 2012)

Will the lens profile correction of the RX100 be provided in LR4 at anytime?
Any thoughts about the possibility?

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zanne
By zanne (Oct 5, 2012)

Is it not in the ACR v.6,7 update list?

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Jim
By Jim (Oct 5, 2012)

Yet still no Canon G1X support...bummer.

Jim

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Patco
By Patco (Oct 5, 2012)

The Canon G1 X was listed as a newly supported camera in the previous 7.1 version of ACR:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5391
and listed here as supported by ACR and Lightroom:
http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/photoshop/extend.html#supportedcameras

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redhed17
By redhed17 (Oct 5, 2012)

I can't see the ACR v7.2 on the Adobe UK site yet. :-/ The DNG Converter, yes.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 5, 2012)

Try updating from within the program, either Lightroom or PS CS6, or less likely PS Elements 11.

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guyindasky
By guyindasky (Oct 4, 2012)

I'm probably dreaming or hallucinating, but it sure it would be nice if Adobe could add tether support for Sony cameras.

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Chas2
By Chas2 (Oct 4, 2012)

I downloaded last night 751MB for LR 4.2 It took hours, I think the Adobe servers were slammed. I went to bed and this morning it seemed to install flawlessly. Win 7 64 bit

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markn7
By markn7 (Oct 4, 2012)

Is this a delta update? Or will I be downloading the whole program?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

You apprehend that there are two, or three, programs?

For Windows, the ACR 7.2 update for Photoshop CS6 is 45MB, while the entire Lightroom 4.xx update is a new program.

For those few with Elements 11, I'd bet it's just an ACR limited update.

So which software are you running Photoshop, Lightroom, or Elements?

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markn7
By markn7 (Oct 4, 2012)

Lightroom.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

Then that's a big replace the whole program update.

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markn7
By markn7 (Oct 4, 2012)

Thanks.

I wonder why they don't do deltas.

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ZeevK
By ZeevK (Oct 4, 2012)

I really do not understand the need foe new release to add support for new camera. This can be easily accomplish through external files like .dll or similar. It's only a new swet of parameters to be used by existing algorithm - not dedicated algorithm for each brand or model...

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 4, 2012)

Actually, some cameras do require new algorithms. Plus, these dot-releases include bug fixes too.

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aaanouel
By aaanouel (Oct 4, 2012)

It's Adobe... they do not have any respect for their customers.

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Poss
By Poss (Oct 4, 2012)

They addressed some of the speed issues as well...

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madeinlisboa
By madeinlisboa (Oct 9, 2012)

That's why I use CaptureNX... Much smaller and still better. If I want a organizer I use Bridge

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Lou Cohen
By Lou Cohen (Oct 4, 2012)

No D600 raw support? Its still not listed as a supported camera on Adobe's website.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

ACR 7.2 opens D600 raw files.

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 4, 2012)

The D600 has preliminary support (beta profile only).

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

ljfinger:

Yes, but ACR 7.2 most certainly extracts D600 raws. That Adobe may tweak ACR in the future for the D600 is possible.

Calling ACR 7.2 a beta extractor for D600 raws is misleading because Adobe also posts beta versions of ACR for download and testing by the general public. So no, one does not need a beta version of ACR 7.xx to open D600 raws, they open very nicely with the current ACR, v 7.2.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Oct 4, 2012)

HowaboutRAW, you didn't read the release notes. That ACR 7.2 can open D600 files is not beta, you are correct there. But Adobe and ljfinger correctly said that the profile is beta. In other words, yes, you can open them, but no, you cannot count on the rendering of 7.2 to be the same as a future version when they have more time to see if they can do a better rendering. And I guess if they are saying that, they think they can do a better rendering.

In short: You can open 'em, but your edits might look different when you update again. That's what they're warning about, that's what's "beta."

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 5, 2012)

graybalanced:

Actually I understood that point when PhotographyBlog first noted the release of ACR 7.2, many many hours before DPReview.

However: ACR 7.2 is still not beta, that a single camera's raw extraction features may change in the future doesn't cause me great concern about the work I do with those files today in ACR 7.2. (It' s not like I'm going to run out an buy a D600 until I'm comfortable that it does what I'd like, and then I have to pay for it too.)

If Adobe and you want to call D600 raw extraction "beta" within ACR 7.2 that's fine, but again I already know that point.

You missed the point where I was saying that ACR 7.2 is not beta software, but that sometimes Adobe posts betas of an entire program like ACR 7.2 but one does not need a beta version of ACR 7.xx to extract D600 raws; they extract nicely in ACR 7.2.

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maxthewildcat
By maxthewildcat (Oct 4, 2012)

"..The file “Lightroom.exe” is not marked for installation...."

is there any solution?

Win64bit - I5 Intel, 8 Gb Ram
Run as Administrator

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snappur
By snappur (Oct 4, 2012)

On dPreview editorial policy: Are we to understand that dPreview is an apologist for the technical, esthetic, and commercial decisions of Adobe? Or do the opinions expressed solely belong to the particular writer, and are not necessarily indicative of the views of dPreview management?

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sbszine
By sbszine (Oct 4, 2012)

It's a press release from Adobe, not an opinion piece from DPR.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (Oct 4, 2012)

Let me guess, the RAW support for X-Pro and X-E are still crappy.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

What problems with ACR extraction of XPro1 raws are you referring to? (I'll assume you don't have XE raws.)

I see no significant difference when opening a D4 raw with ACR in PhotoShop than when opening a Fuji XPro1 file with the same software.

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smatty
By smatty (Oct 4, 2012)

I think he is referring to the mediocre rendering of the RAW files in ACR/LR4. The X-Pro 1 (the X-E1 has exactly the same sensor and processor) RAW files don't look good in ACR. In comparison to the JPG images the Fuji in camera processing, there is hardly any reason to shoot RAW. It takes a lot of work to create a Fuji RAW file in ACR that looks close to the quality of OOC jpg.

But I don't think it is entirely Adobes fault. Fuji engineers have recently stated that the new 6x6 X-Trans vs. Bayer pixel array took years to develop, mainly because of the difficulty to create the new rendering algorithm.

And if this is the secret sauce to the X-Trans sensor, than Fuji will not easily give this information out to third parties to keep their competitive advantage for some time.

But unfortunately, this is not the best decision for us users who would love to get even more out of out X-Pro 1 images in ACR/LR and RAW...

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

smatty:

Because I use high ISOs and care about colour, I'm not going to bother with jpegs. It's academically nice to read that the XPro1 does good jpegs out of the camera, but meaningless for repeated high quality photo work.

The tiffs from raw look very good to me, however the colour from Fuji lenses seems to lack what Zeiss and Leicas can produce. Still the Fuji lenses are very sharp and easily beat ostensibly high quality Nikon lenses for colour. And yes, I have tested a 50mm 1.4 Zeiss on the XPro1. The Zeiss isn't as sharp as the Fuji.

Could ACR 7.2 and 7.1 do an even better job with XPro1 raws, maybe. But to say that it does a crappy job is stupid, particularly when the software which ships with the XPro1 does such an awful job (Silkypix). And this goes to your point about "competitive advantage" If Fuji sought that, then Silkypix would be usable or Fuji would have done its own raw extraction software.

Can you change colour, tint, and exposure with a jpeg? Not really.

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Petka
By Petka (Oct 4, 2012)

SilkyPix produces high quality conversions from X-Pro1 RAW files, but the user interface is clumsy and the program is slooooow (screen draws especially).

It is alo possible to use the in-camera converter to convert RAW files on the SC card, if you want to...

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

Petka:

Compared to ACR, Silkypix does not produce high quality extractions of raws from the XPro1. Or any other raw format I've tried it with, Panasonic LX5 and Samsung NX100 raws spring to immediate mind.

And no it is not simply a bad interface. Silkypix should be withdrawn from the market it so bad, and Samsung, Panasonic and Fuji are really dumb to use it as their raw extraction software.

To the best of my knowledge one can't use in camera conversion to convert from raw to tiff.

In I believe the DP2 Merrill review, the guy who runs Luminous-Landscape also calls Silkypix a poor quality raw extraction tool. He knows a thing or two about raw extraction and image quality. (Though his language is not as harsh as mine.)

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smatty
By smatty (Oct 5, 2012)

@HowaboutRAW: I used to be 100% in the RAW boat with my Canon FF cameras. But since I bought the Fuji X100 more than 1.5 years ago, this has changed. I feel very comfortable shooting the X100 and X-Pro 1 in JPG - never thought I would go back to APS-C or use jpg, but Fuji has changed that.

Looking at your screen name, it is plausible that you are a RAW advocate. But:

"Could ACR 7.2 and 7.1 do an even better job with XPro1 raws, maybe. But to say that it does a crappy job is stupid..."

I never said "crappy" so much for "stupid"! And if you would give the X-Pro 1 jpg a chance (Provia) and compare it to a RAW in LR (shoot jpg+RAW) maybe you see what so many of us are talking about.

"Can you change colour, tint, and exposure with a jpeg? Not really."

Yes you can. Of course not as much as you can with RAW, but the Fuji jpg files hold a lot of room for correction - more than my 5D MK II jpg's. I try to get the exposure and settings right in camera - a habbit from analog days!

Cheers!

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 5, 2012)

smatty:

No you didn't say "crappy", you wrote, quote:

"I think he is referring to the mediocre rendering of the RAW files in ACR/LR4. The X-Pro 1 (the X-E1 has exactly the same sensor and processor) RAW files don't look good in ACR. In comparison to the JPG images the Fuji in camera processing,"

All of which means crappy.

And then above, Peiasdf clearly did say "crappy".

To the best of my knowledge: exposure and colour adjustment are better in TIFF than jpg. And the only way you get good TIFFs is to start with raw files. So that's another big reason to use raw, one can make post extraction to TIFF exposure and colour tweaks that are next to impossible in jpges.

If you really do get your exposure settings perfect in every shot, then you sure are shooting slowly. Or you are shooting in a studio. Such a claim is like someone saying I try to get composition and focus near perfect every time. And the focus claim would be laughable with the Fuji XPro1 and the X100.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 5, 2012)

smatty:

I notice you say rendering raw files from with ACR in LR 4. I know that PhotoShop Elements uses a limited version of ACR, but ACR is still very good from within Elements, so Lightroom 4 should do a good job with XPro1 raws. (I don't have Elements 11, so am not commenting on extraction of XPro1 raws with Elements.)

Which all leads to my my point, perhaps the fault is with the Lightroom version of ACR 7.xx's extraction of XPro1 raws.

I use ACR 7 in Photoshop CS6 and the extraction of XPro1 raws is excellent. Above I only said that it "maybe" could be better to allow for future tweaks.

Frankly I have no idea why Lightroom 4 would extract XPro1 raws so badly given how good PS CS6 is. I have Elements 9, to test out older raws, like those from the Panasonic LX5, but Elements 9 is really really good at raw extraction of those Panasonic files.

Who knows, the fact is that ACR 7.xx in Photoshop CS6 does a very very good job of extracting XPro1 raws.

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rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (Oct 4, 2012)

I thought that the 4.2 version was supposed to give you access to the full raw picture, even if you had chosen a cropped format. But nothing has changed here. I don't understand why something that simple, which C1 Pro is offering since years can't be included in LR and ACR. Even Olympus proprietary raw converter offers that choice.

It is really deceiving. Is it that hard for Adobe to understand that you can change your mind after the shoot, or that you need some of these supplementary pixels to straighten your tilted horizon without loss if possible ??

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Zebooka
By Zebooka (Oct 4, 2012)

What exact cameras you are talking about?
Because Panasonic LX5 does NOT record all pixels. Only selected crop area.

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mas54
By mas54 (Oct 4, 2012)

When you shot 6x6, did you get 6x9 negatives?

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jeff_006
By jeff_006 (Oct 4, 2012)

I agree with you. With E-M5, I'd like to take pictures with a particular ratio (3:2, 16:9, 1:1) but to have the full 4:3 sensor info in RAW to correct cropping or change ratio or correct perspective better

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 4, 2012)

It will do this natively on cameras going forward, but for cameras going backwards, they've released a plugin for this:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroomplugins/

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RStyga
By RStyga (Oct 3, 2012)

And, of course, we'll be forced to use the latest Adobe product... How nice of them... 'Sick of their "policy"... Although I own Elements 8, I have to purchase, again, Elements 10 to use ACR 6.7 for my K-01...

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 3, 2012)

You expect Adobe to go back and provide additional capabilities to your three-year-old piece of software because you went out and bought a new camera?

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Oct 3, 2012)

Does Elements 10 import DNG? Because then you can use DNG Converter 7.2 to get your raws into DNG for Elements 10. Total cost: free

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PicOne
By PicOne (Oct 4, 2012)

Yes.. adobe should continue to update their software past versions.. even if a nominal price

I can still buy parts for my 6 year old car

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 4, 2012)

It's a flawed analogy, I'm afraid. You're talking about buying a new car and complaining that the manufacturer won't let you use your old engine (even for a nominal fee).

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RStyga
By RStyga (Oct 4, 2012)

I did not ask for a free upgrade to Elements 10 but downward compatibility to ACR 6.7. Elements 8 (and 9) are not compatible with ACR 6.7; Elements nine is the previous version of Elements (until 11 is out). ACR 6.7 is NOT the latest ACR. So, yes, I think I do expect different marketing strategy practices from Adobe; or, maybe... I shouldn't...

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Marcel Mutter
By Marcel Mutter (Oct 4, 2012)

ARC is a separate program that transfers the image to the editing software so it can be made available to older programms.

It is more like in the past when petrol went from leaded to unleaded fue,l but then in one day. Yes you can fill up your car but the motor won't like it and it will cease to operate. No you can't change your motor to run on unleaded fuel and you have to scrap your car and buy a new one!!

That is the policy of Adobe....sell more cars!!!

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ihv
By ihv (Oct 4, 2012)

If you are concerned with new camera support, then Adobe has made quite a big effort for camera makers to use an open standard format. One can only blame camera makers here.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

ihv:

Well in fact a DNG from say a Leica M9 is different than a DNG from a Pentax K30, Ricoh GXR, etc. And software that opens one will not always open the other, though Adobe software seems better in this regard. Then with Adobe one can compromise and use Adobe DNG converter, but especially with the XPro1 files that has some difficulties.

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nekrosoft13
By nekrosoft13 (Oct 4, 2012)

I agree with R Butler. Adobe is nice enough to give customers DNG converter for free. use that if you want to use outdated old software.

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WST
By WST (Oct 4, 2012)

To be clear, Adobe isn't updating Camera Raw for it's current version of Elements (10). While I can understand them not going back several versions of Elements, seems like a poor decision to not support the current version. If I want to use Raw files from the latest Rebel I have to wait for Elements 11 to ship (or convert through DNG)

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PicOne
By PicOne (Oct 4, 2012)

Outdated/old software? Theoretically you could buy a new camera today, and PS/LR the same day, a week or month later a new PS comes out and your camera never gets supported.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 5, 2012)

PicOne:

What on earth are you talking about? My Canon G2 which I purchased in Dec. 2001 is supported by ACR 7.2 today, more than ten years later. (And yes, the G2 shoots raw.)

That Adobe makes one buy a version of PS Elements per year to keep up with the latest camera raw files (eg Fuji XE and Nikon D600) is a very different story.

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PicOne
By PicOne (Oct 5, 2012)

The G2 isn't a new camera you can buy new today. What are you talking about? I'm talking about eg... perhaps a couple weeks from now you buy the new Leica M-E. At the same time purchase Lightroom. You have no idea whether Adobe will ever support the M-E with Lightroom 4 and may have to fork over money to buy Lightroom 5.

i was originally responding to Nekrosoft's comment about this issue pertaining to users of "old and outdated software" (in my scenario, neither the software or the camera would be old or outdated, but rather the latest offerings from 2 separate companies).

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DezM
By DezM (Oct 3, 2012)

Where's the link to the download(s)?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

For ACR 7.2 one has to update from within your Adobe software: Photoshop CS 6, Lightroom 4.xx, or if you have PS Elements 11 you can get that limited ACR 7.2.

If you're just looking for the new Lightroom, the update pulldown menu should also work.

Adobe really only ever allows you to download the latest free DNG Converter from a link.

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Jambsi
By Jambsi (Oct 3, 2012)

Adobe just told me that Camera Raw 7.2 is not available for Elements 10. However it ships with Elements 11.

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ashwins
By ashwins (Oct 4, 2012)

Well, that's Adobe..

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WST
By WST (Oct 4, 2012)

So, to be clear, Adobe isn't updating Camera Raw for it's current version of Elements. While I can understand them not going back several versions of Elements, seems like a poor version to not support the current version. If I want to use Raw files from the latest Rebel I have to wait for Elements 11 to ship (or convert through DNG)

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BabylonPhotos
By BabylonPhotos (Oct 3, 2012)

They don't say anything about the Fujifilm X-Pro1, but I see the latest Fuji X-E1 in the list of supported cameras? Does anyone know something?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

ACR 7.1 supports the Fuji XPro1 and now ACR 7.2.

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BabylonPhotos
By BabylonPhotos (Oct 3, 2012)

Thanks for the information HowaboutRAW.
Isn't it weird that ACR supports the Fuji X-Pro1 but not Lightroom? I can't do without Lightroom 4, not only for RAW conversion but also for organizing my archive is wonderful.

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Patco
By Patco (Oct 4, 2012)

"They don't say anything about the Fujifilm X-Pro1"
"Isn't it weird that ACR supports the Fuji X-Pro1 but not Lightroom?"
The X-Pro1 is listed as supported by ACR & Lightroom:
http://www.adobe.com/ca/products/photoshop/extend.html#supportedcameras

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keith james taylor
By keith james taylor (Oct 3, 2012)

What about the speed jut as fast as Lr 3 svp.

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toomanycanons
By toomanycanons (Oct 3, 2012)

Any reason to get this LR4.2 update if I don't have any of the cameras or lenses on the update?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

Well do you look at raws shot by other people with cameras other than the ones you own?

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toomanycanons
By toomanycanons (Oct 3, 2012)

Never. I was wondering about actual workflow tweaks that meant something. I'm pretty happy with 4.1.

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pauljcoles
By pauljcoles (Oct 4, 2012)

The release also fixes bugs, like a problem with the Luminance slider being unresponsive.

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diforbes
By diforbes (Oct 3, 2012)

Is there lens correction support for Panasonic and Olympus MFT lenses yet?

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 3, 2012)

What lenses aren't supported? Most Micro Four Thirds lens corrections are applied without the need for profiles, since the profile information is embedded in the Raw file.

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scott_mcleod
By scott_mcleod (Oct 4, 2012)

@R Butler - yeah, but precisely because of that, you can't turn it off! CA correction is fine, but distortion correction is always destructive (though in the case of the Panny 20/1.7 a lot less than I expected). It would be nice to at least have the option; in some instances the distortion may be unnoticeable but the improvement in edge sharpness won't be... or to choose some intermediate value. There are plenty of reasons why I think the "embedded" lens profiles are a bad idea. Other than that Lr rocks!

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 4, 2012)

The philosophy behind some modern lenses (particularly in mirrorless and compact cameras) is to use software distortion correction as part of the lens' design, rather than adding heavy, expensive elements and doing it optically (which itself can have side-effects on other aspects of the IQ).

From that perspective, turning the distortion correction off would be like taking one of the lens elements out - you might be able to correct for it, but it's probably easier just to leave it in there. The lens' final performance was designed to have those corrections made and (as you've seen with the 20mm) the results tend to be pretty good - and possibly better than the results of trying to correct a lens not designed with software correction in mind.

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Oct 3, 2012)

Adobe DNG Converter has been updated as well:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5486

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Doug Pardee
By Doug Pardee (Oct 3, 2012)

Yet, Adobe *still* hasn't published the specification for DNG 1.4, which the converter produces.

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 4, 2012)

Yes, they have Doug:

http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/photoshop/pdfs/dng_spec_1.4.0.0.pdf

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Doug Pardee
By Doug Pardee (Oct 5, 2012)

Yeah, they *just* released it, in the time between my post and yours. Almost nine months after starting to produce products based on DNG 1.4, Adobe is now prepared to let the rest of the industry in on it.

Maybe I can take credit for nudging them into posting it! :)

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

Nice to see that the Nikon D600 is better at higher ISOs than the D800.

Though PhotographyBlog was saying that the ACR 7.2 D600 extraction software may not be final.

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AlexBakerPhotoz
By AlexBakerPhotoz (Oct 3, 2012)

Excellent, I can read my D600 NEF files just fine now. I updated LR to 4.2 and updated to ACR 7.2 in CS6, everything is working perfectly which is more than I can say for crash-and-burn ViewNX 2 v 2.5.1

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Stanislaw Sawczyn
By Stanislaw Sawczyn (Oct 3, 2012)

OK, but where is Retina support?

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Martin Datzinger
By Martin Datzinger (Oct 3, 2012)

In 4.3, at the earliest, as it seems.

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Forfie
By Forfie (Oct 3, 2012)

I can also confirm that tethering works great with my D800

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Forfie
By Forfie (Oct 3, 2012)

LR 4.2 does in fact now support the D600 Raw files, even though its not listed above. Perhaps Its not full support (profiles etc.), but they import and edit beautifully.

Pretty impressive files on all fronts.

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tornwald
By tornwald (Oct 3, 2012)

Sigma dp1 & 2 Merrill support please

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littleroot
By littleroot (Oct 3, 2012)

Love how I just installed LR from Adobe Cloud this morning and upon launching the product I am told there is a 750MB update available. So much for the claimed benefit of Cloud Subscription slipstreaming the updates. Same thing happened with Photoshop CS6, the latest ACR, etc, 200MB, updates were needed

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

Um, today's update to ACR 7.2 for PS CS6 was only 54MB for Windows.

Adobe released a lot of small updates for Photoshop CS6 last week.

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Fazal Majid
By Fazal Majid (Oct 4, 2012)

The entire LR4.2 distribution for Mac is 420MB or so...

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

Fazal Majid:

That all very interesting but littleroot was talking about updating CS6, and the ACR 7.2 update was still 45MB for a Windows computer.

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Patco
By Patco (Oct 5, 2012)

WowaboutRAW:

Your post is also interesting, but if you read littleroot's message again, you might find that he was also talking about LR: "I just installed LR from Adobe Cloud this morning and upon launching the product I am told there is a 750MB update available".

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 5, 2012)

Patco:

I have no idea what Lightroom from the Adobe Cloud is.

Sure all of Lightroom 4 gets replaced with a new version. However for the ACR 7 CS6 update on a Windows computer the download is still 45MB.

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marco ricci
By marco ricci (Oct 3, 2012)

Fujifilm X-Pro1 support is same as before (color bleeding and smearing fine detail) and still no color profiles...

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plasnu
By plasnu (Oct 3, 2012)

Really????

That sucks!

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onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 3, 2012)

Isn't it the same raw as X-E1? The list above shows added support.

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marco ricci
By marco ricci (Oct 3, 2012)

yes it's the same (same sensor) so X-E1 files will suffer the same problems :)

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

marco ricci:

That's odd, I don't have any smearing problems with I open XPro1 raws in ACR 7.1 for CS6.

You want smearing: Try Silkypix.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

marco ricci:

And nor do I see any smearing of XPro1 raw files extracted with ACR 7.2 in CS6--ISO 4000 too.

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plasnu
By plasnu (Oct 3, 2012)

HowaboutRAW,
We'are not discussing if there were smearing problems with 7.1 or not. What we want to know is the smearing problems with 7.1 has fixed or not.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 3, 2012)

plasnu

Please read both of my comments above, particularly the one where I said that I'd seen no smearing of extracted XPro1 files with ACR 7.1 in PS CS6. And if one seeks smearing: Use Silkypix.

So no, in Photoshop CS6, ACR 7.1 and 7.2 don't smear XPro1 raws extracted into tiffs. Therefore: No problem to fix.

Making assertions about software performance that I can easily check and discover to be incorrect or severely misleading doesn't do claims of smearing much service. Particularly when Silkypix is famously so bad in that area with XPro1 raws.

Maybe it's a jpeg thing, I don't waste my time extracting raws directly into jpegs, because I care about colour and noise.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Oct 4, 2012)

plasnu:

From a 500 ISO raw, now using ACR 7.2, I can't even make a jpeg smear when I make a 1.4MB file out of the entire raw original.

And then with a tiff of an ISO 6400 file that I know I extracted with ACR 7.1 that I then turned into a small jpeg, I'm not seeing smearing. I see noise and a bit of blotchiness, but nothing unexpected at that ISO with a jpeg and nothing I'd call "smearing".

If you mean that high ISO Fuji XPro1 raws get blurred a bit when extracted, that's not at all the same as smearing. That's pretty much how much of noise reduction works. The ISO 4000-6400 tiffs that I have look great--even in shadows.

Again use Silkypix 5 for smearing.

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DuckShots
By DuckShots (Oct 3, 2012)

Did they fix the tethered shootin?

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Forfie
By Forfie (Oct 3, 2012)

Yes

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bizi clop
By bizi clop (Oct 3, 2012)

The link under feedback.photoshop.com points to the wrong place, dear user E024256 :)

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 3, 2012)

I've fixed it. It's an error in the original press release.

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