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Fujifilm USA announces price for X-S1 high-end superzoom camera

By dpreview staff on Jan 5, 2012 at 05:01 GMT
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Pre-CES: Fujifilm USA has announced the price and availability of the X-S1 high-end superzoom announced back in November. The X-S1 is part of the company's premium 'X Series' and is built around the same 2/3" type 12MP CMOS sensor as the X10 enthusiasts' compact. It also features a 26X 24-624mm equivalent F2.8-5.6 zoom lens. It also features Raw shooting, a 1.44M dot electronic viewfinder and 460,000 dot rear LCD along with a rubberized coating and metal dials to emphasize its premium 'Made in Japan' status. It will be available later this month at a recommended price of $799.

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FUJIFILM EXPANDS AWARD WINNING X-SERIES WITH THE ALL-NEW PREMIUM 26X LONG-ZOOM X-S1 DIGITAL CAMERA

Large Sensor, Superior Image Quality and Precise Manual 26x Zoom Lens
Mark the Addition of the X-S1 to the Premium FUJIFILM X-Series

Valhalla, N.Y., January 5, 2012 – FUJIFILM North America Corporation today announced the all-new FUJIFILM X-S1, a premium, high performance DSLR-styled long-zoom camera, built with careful craftsmanship for the sophisticated consumer and enthusiast photographer who are looking for maximum photographic performance – and true picture quality – with a versatile long-zoom lens housed in a durable, lightweight body.

The all-new FUJIFILM X-S1, made in Japan, is the latest addition to the premium FUJIFILM X-series that includes the X100 and X10. The X-S1 features a large 2/3” 12 megapixel EXR CMOS sensor and a newly-developed, bright all glass and high-definition FUJINON F2.8 Wide-Angle to F5.6 telephoto lens with an ultra-smooth 26x manual zoom (24-624mm). The FUJINON lens consists of 17 glass lens elements in 12 groups, to offer amazing clarity and high resolution through the entire image. The new FUJINON lens has a metal cam design that delivers smooth, precise zoom control, and an O-ring that is injected with a specially blended grease similar to what is found in high definition broadcast television lenses.

The X-S1 is the ideal “all-in-one” camera because it offers all of the benefits of a DSLR system in a single camera and lens body. The X-S1 is designed to exceed expectations in all photographic situations, and is especially well-suited for nature photography thanks to its impressive wide angle, long zoom and super macro capabilities all from a single lens.

“Building upon the success of the FUJIFILM X100 and X10, we are proud to expand the FUJIFILM X-Series with this 26x ultra zoom premium digital camera that delivers the exceptional image quality that the X-Series is known for,” said David Troy, director of marketing, Digital Cameras, Electronic Imaging Division, Fujifilm North America Corporation. “The X-S1 combines the famed heritage of the FUJINON lens system with an outstanding all-in-one camera system that produces amazing clarity and high resolution results in almost every shooting situation.”

The EXR processor delivers an extremely fast auto focus while minimizing shutter lag and supports high speed continuous shooting of approximately 7 frames per second (fps) at full resolution. The premium long zoom X-S1 has a wide, 1.4 million dot electronic viewfinder (EVF) that is exceptionally bright and clear, and it includes a heads-up sensor that automatically switches between the viewfinder and the LCD screen when the camera is raised to the user’s eye to compose an image. The viewfinder uses two glass lenses and one non-spherical lens to capture realistic lighting and display true-to-life images. The X-S1 has a large 3.0” titling LCD display with a Monitor Sunlight Mode that allows users to review their images in bright sunlight.

The well-balanced X-S1 also features an enhanced, full-body, rubberized grain texture coating that adds superior grip, a hot shoe mount to add additional accessories, full 1080p HD movie capture and milled mode and adjustment dials for exceptional feel and functionality.

The FUJIFILM X-S1 features Fujifilm’s Intelligent Digital Zoom which effectively doubles the telephoto capabilities and provides up to an amazing 52x total zoom, and a Super Macro Mode that captures images as close as 1cm.

Images Worthy of the X-Series Designation

The FUJIFILM X-S1 features the same large 2/3-inch 12MP EXR-CMOS sensor as the FUJIFILM X10 to ensure high quality images regardless of the lighting conditions. The unique EXR-CMOS technology, pioneered by Fujifilm, allows the user to switch between three modes depending on the lighting conditions – or leave the camera to make its own choice in the EXR Auto Mode.

Switching between the modes changes the performance of the sensor. The High Resolution option is perfect in bright conditions or when the very best picture quality is the primary aim. Wide Dynamic Range mode can be used in scenes of high contrast when the user wants to get details in both shadow and highlight areas of an image, while the High Sensitivity & Low Noise option should be selected for optimum results in low light conditions.

Coupled to the EXR-CMOS sensor is the high speed EXR processor, which offers a minimal shutter lag of just 0.01 seconds and a high speed continuous shooting capability of 7fps at full resolution (Large JPEG) or 10fps at six megapixel resolution (Medium JPEG).

Extraordinary versatility

At the heart of the FUJIFILM X-S1 is the FUJINON 26x optical precision zoom lens that offers a focal range of 24-624mm with its bright and fast f/2.8 maximum aperture at the wide-angle zoom setting.

The X-S1 FUJINON lens delivers images with superb edge-to-edge sharpness and amazing clarity. The lens construction is of the highest standard, featuring metal cams for smooth zoom control and fast, precise framing.

The FUJIFILM X-S1 is also ideally suited for capturing subjects close up. In standard Macro mode, the zoom focuses as close as 7cm, but by selecting Super Macro Mode, users can focus as close as 1cm for frame-filling close-up images. Furthermore, the lens’ aperture is made up of nine blades for excellent "bokeh" effect photography.

Full Manual Controls for Maximum Flexibility

Photographers who prefer full manual controls will enjoy the flexibility of the X-S1 with its full range of conventional shooting functions (program/shutter-priority/ aperture-priority/manual).

The extensive external controls give the more advanced photographer direct access to virtually every control they will need for uninterrupted shooting, and the specially designed chassis includes dedicated command buttons for quick and easy key functions such as ISO, white balance, focus and metering.

The large command dial, manual focus ring, twist and zoom lens barrel, bright, clear electronic viewfinder, high quality tilting LCD screen and deep hand grip ensures the camera handles well. Additionally, the X-S1 provides four auto bracketing options, eight Film Simulation and white balance functions and Raw file shooting capabilities.

For simplicity, the X-S1 automatically assesses the subject and then selects the relevant scene mode for the perfect result, automatically switching the EXR-CMOS sensor accordingly. Not only does it determine the type of scene being photographed, it can also calculate whether an image contains a person, features backlighting or has any subject movement. ISO settings are adjusted by the Auto ISO mode, which selects the optimum setting between ISO 100 and 3200. Those after more ISO flexibility can manually select up to ISO 12800 (Small JPEG format only).

HD Movie Capture and High Speed Movies

The FUJIFILM X-S1 captures full 1080p High Definition (1920 x 1080 pixels) movie with stereo sound at 30fps, which is saved in the H.264 format profile compression for smaller file sizes without sacrificing quality. With a mini-HDMI output connector, it is easy to connect and view images on your HDTV (HDMI cable not included). Versatility is further increased thanks to the High Speed Movie options, which include capture at an incredible 320fps. With features like this, even the fastest moving subjects can be captured and watched in slow motion.

RAW / RAW+JPEG Shooting

The X-S1 has the ability to shoot both a RAW and JPEG shot simultaneously. RAW is for ultimate quality shots via post processing, JPEG is for great quality with no need for further post-production work.

Motion Panorama 360°

The FUJIFILM X-S1 delivers exquisite panoramas by allowing its sensor to extend the sweep range to 360˚ (shots can also be taken vertically). Combined with high quality Fujifilm printing, sweeping and impressive scenes can be taken, showing fine detail, low noise and high resolution at 180°, 240˚ or full 360˚ panoramic ranges.

Clear Viewing and Reviewing for Ideal Results

The FUJIFILM X-S1 offers a powerful combination of a high quality electronic viewfinder and a tilting LCD screen to ensure composing and viewing images is quick and simple, regardless of the lighting conditions.

The 0.47-inch electronic viewfinder (EVF) features 1.4 million pixel resolution for superb image clarity and has a wide viewing area of 26 degrees for better image framing. The bright EVF makes it easy to check settings or adjust focus manually.

The large, tilting 3” LCD features 460,000 pixel resolution making it easy for users to scroll through menus, assess exposure accuracy and view images. The LCD also offers a useful Sunlight mode that allows for easy viewing in even the brightest locations.

FUJIFILM X-S1 key features:

  • Large 2/3-inch 12 MP EXR-CMOS sensor
  • High quality FUJINON 26x optical precision zoom 24-624mm (35mm  equivalent) with Intelligent Digital Zoom boosting focal range up to 52x and Optical Image Stabilization
  • Superb build quality and finish with rubberized coating and metal dials
  • Up to 10fps continuous shooting
  • Large tilting 3” 460,000 pixel resolution LCD screen with Sunlight mode
  • Large EVF with 1.4 million pixel resolution and 26 degree viewing angle
  • Full 1080p HD movie with stereo sound
  • Super Macro focusing as close as 1cm
  • Raw and jpeg shooting
  • Film simulation modes
  • Program / Shutter-Priority / Aperture-Priority / Manual modes
  • Lithium Ion rechargeable battery providing up to 500 shots per charge
  • 360° Motion Panorama mode

Pricing and Availability

The FUJIFILM X-S1 will be available in January 2012 with a retail price of $799.95.

Fujifilm X-S1 Specfications

Body type
Body typeSLR-like (bridge)
Sensor
Max resolution4000 x 3000
Other resolutions4000 x 2664, 4000 x 2248, 2992 x 2992, 2816 x 2112, 2816 x 1864, 2816 x 1584, 2048 x x 1536, 2048 x 1360, 1920 x 1080, 1536 x 1536
Image ratio w:h1:1, 4:3, 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels12 megapixels
Sensor size2/3" (8.8 x 6.6 mm)
Sensor typeEXRCMOS
ProcessorEXR
Image
ISOAuto, 100, 200, 250, 320, 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600, 2000, 2500, 3200, (4000, 5000, 6400, 12800 with boost)
White balance presets6
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationOptical
Uncompressed formatRAW
JPEG quality levelsFine, Normal
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)24–624 mm
Optical zoom26×
Maximum apertureF2.8 - F5.6
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Live View
Digital zoomYes (2x)
Manual focusYes
Normal focus range30 cm (11.81)
Macro focus range1 cm (0.39)
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDTilting
Screen size3
Screen dots460,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeTFT color LCD monitor
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeElectronic
Viewfinder coverage100%
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/4000 sec
Built-in flashYes (Pop-up)
Flash range8.00 m
External flashYes (hot-shoe)
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Red-Eye, Slow Sync
Continuous drive10 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Average
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
AE Bracketing (at 1/3 EV, 2/3 EV, 1 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (30 fps), 1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps)
FormatH.264
MicrophoneStereo
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage included26 MB
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (Mini connector)
Remote controlYes (Optional RR-80)
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion NP-95 rechargeable battery & charger
Weight (inc. batteries)920 g (2.03 lb / 32.45 oz)
Dimensions135 x 107 x 149 mm (5.31 x 4.21 x 5.87)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingNo
GPSNone
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Comments

Total comments: 52
Dan
By Dan (Jan 26, 2012)

Fuji, my main camera is a Nikon D300. I wanted to shoot video of my kids, so I purchased a Sony HDR-CX350V (over a Canon SX20IS). I also have an S5 Pro, several S2 Pros (unreliable), S1 Pro, S6000fd (wish it had a manual pop-up flash), F10, S20 Pro (unusable b/c of junk entering the lens), S602 (quit powering on), 4900, and a 2600, so you can see I've been a long time fan (b/c of fast AF and high-ISO quality). I am waiting for you to make something I want to buy b/c nothing beats Fuji color. Last week I purchased a Panasonic FZ150, and here's why. 0.63 second cycle time (shot-to-shot). Fast AF. Simultaneous stills and video capture. Lens based optical image stabilization along with software-based optical image stabilization. Stereo mic input. Hot shoe. Motorized zoom (important for smooth video). Awesome video mode. I strongly considered the X10, but its movie mode is not good enough. I'm waiting Fuji =) The X-S1 is so close! I'm sure you can motorize zoom and still allow manual zoom.

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Dan
By Dan (Jan 26, 2012)

My ideas continued: Your high-ISO performance has captured my attention again. I've had my eye on the EXR compacts for several years now, but their movie modes stopped me from buying. I need simultaneous capture of stills and video! I need image stabilization as good as Sony's steady-shot with active mode! Make something as fast as the FZ150 but as pocketable as the Casio ZR100 (also a camera with a fast shot-to-shot time). Give its stereo mics the sound quality of the Canon SX20IS (great bass pickup). Make sure it has a hot-shoe or a jack for an external hot-shoe (what's the point of a fast camera if I have to wait for the internal flash to recycle?). A stereo mic input would be nice too. Just make it as much like the Panasonic FZ150 as possible, but better =) If it's not pocketable, I guess I'll live =) Oh, btw, I also have a couple F700s, and they still work!

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 12, 2012)

You cannot turn the zoom ring from 24mm to 624mm by hand in a convincing fashion, which is why it may be a good idea to have a follow focus (FF) or zoom gear and ring affixed to the zoom barrel, and then zoom in/out using a whip flash stick inserted into the FF know for amazing-like zooming.

My biggest concern is the poor & slow auto-focusing, of course no AF could figure out in wide that it should focus on the star on top of the spire a kilometer away. I would have zoomed in all the way first to set focus by hand.

What I am worried about is the fact that the X-S1 has an infinity focus ring, in other words it just turns around and around, no distance markings. That means that you really have to spend extra time to do focusing by hand. If it had markings, in this shot one would have quickly set it at infinity and nail the zoom shot, I am theorizing.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 12, 2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEfzbpOpPTM

Pretty good zoom range, I guess the fellow in Mockba used the AF function, which seems to be a bit slowish. Because in MF, this should not have happened. Unless the guy zooomed first, then re-set focus, then zoomed again, and re-set focus again. Any clue what has happened here? I am trying to deconstruct this zoom shot. Yes, the Canon and Nikon have longer ranges, but they are 1/2.3-inch sensor. And the new Fujinon 770 & 750 have 30x zoom range but only a 1/2-inch sensors.

What I think might have happened.... camera was on a tripod, that is obvious in the extreme tele shot at the very end, but the operator was clumsy or the fluid head was not good, if there even was one. You cannot really pan/tilt the camera at these extreme focal lengths AND operate zoom ring AND pull focus. Not by yourself, you would need a 2nd person for ZOOM and/or focus.

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mbrobich
By mbrobich (Jan 16, 2012)

Maybe he didnt have it on AF-C, but on AF-S, means he has to re-press halfway to set the focus again. I know my Nikons do that during video.

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IEBA1
By IEBA1 (Jan 7, 2012)

And this compares to the Fujifilm FinePix HS20EXR how?
Just a bigger sensor?

Will it be jaw, droppingly better than existing superzooms because of the larger sensor, or have more trouble focusing because of the shallower depth of field?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

Jaw-droppingly better, of course. You are getting a 26x 24-624mm Fujinon lens on the X-S1 that others would be selling for more money than the camera and the lens are packaged here. HS20 is a different product category from this one, really.

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Macist
By Macist (Jan 6, 2012)

"High End?" Without GPS in 2012? For a superzoom?

Don't think so....

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IEBA1
By IEBA1 (Jan 7, 2012)

Sorr. I have used several superzooms, and currently use the Canon SX20 (20x optical) and have looooooonged for a similar camera where the "focus" was on image quality. If they really make the best of the clearly excellent imaging chip within (same as the X100) then I'm sold. Period.

GPS is actually something I DON'T want in a camera.

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Macist
By Macist (Jan 8, 2012)

Why? Perhaps you never travel?

But if you want the best image quality, why do you want a superzoom? Superzooms are a compromise, but they are the best of all worlds for traveling.

For traveling, a GPS is invaluable, so that those of us who stray away from places like the Eiffel Tower, can remember the locations of our shots.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

X-S1's sensor is the same as X10's 2/3-inch sensor, but nothing to do with the X100's APS-C sized sensor, however.

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Nemodus
By Nemodus (Jan 6, 2012)

Interesting, but only if the Orbs default is resolved.
How Fuji is going to react if the Orbs problem is related to the sensor?

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2011/12/07/fujifilmplansfirmware

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

Take two aspirins, and repeat after me: "There are no orbs.... There are no orbs.... There are no orbs."

Seriously though, I saw plenty of photos out of the X-S1 already online, and even a video clip, and I did not see any "problem." Of course, one can always create a "problem" when there isn't any present.

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KARX
By KARX (Jan 8, 2012)

You are wrong. Unfortunately FUJIFILM X-S1 has the same "Orbs" problem as X10.
Here're examples from the review @prophotos.ru:
(http://prophotos.ru/reviews/14675-fujifilm-x-s1?page=5)

http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4675/65710/dscf1151-original.jpg

http://prophotos.ru/data/articles/0001/4675/65711/dscf1153-original.jpg

No jokes. I'm serious. That's the fact. I'm really disappointed.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 14, 2012)

@ KARX: You are right, it is rather hard to sweep this under the floor. I am a bit surprised at people in general however. They are buying the X-S1, even though it has the same exact sensor as the X10 where the issue first manifested itself, correct?

Is a "firmware fix" possible? Not being a gear-head, I don't really know.

Fortunately, the issue does not seem to affect the camera in video mode at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhLIip26xuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEfzbpOpPTM

I detected no white dsics or orbs anywhere, not even at :12 into the Moscow clip, looking at the vehicle headlights on the Mockba River embankment.

So, what would you recommend for folks interested in the X-S1?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 14, 2012)

"Fujifilm has confirmed in a discussion with dpreview [that a] firmware update for the X10 aimed at reducing the 'white-orb' problem is due in early February, if not before. The firmware update, that addresses the hard-edged white discs or orbs generated when highlight regions clip, will reduce but not completely remove the effect."

Let's see now, Based on what I had seen on VIDEO CLIPS coming out of the X-S1, the white discs are not present at all. "Only" when taking still pictures. Depending on the situation and the level of zooming in, it can be nasty and ruin and otherwise okay picture, right?

The PROPER FIX would be to redesign the CMOS sensor and then have Fujifilm replace the sensor in all of the hitherto sold X10 and X-S1 cameras. Of course, they will not do that, thus the promised partial fix via a firmware. Since they are saying it won't fix it totally, it must be a sensor issue, after all.

And how about the new X-Pro1's sensor, will that also be affected this way?

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iudex
By iudex (Jan 5, 2012)

The price of the XS1 is questionable, just as the price of X100 or X10 is. However X100 sells for 1000 € like warm bread. Considering the fact XS1 is the best superzoom, the price is adequate. Taking into account the prices of lowend DSLR´s equal or lower than the XS1, it looks a bit different. The buyer needs to consider what he expects from this camera. When it is a single portable camera with capability to shoot indoor shots at 24 mm and at the same time birds 100 m away without the need to change lenses, this is the best choice. Or maybe an ideal candidate for a safari (capable of shooting distant animals, light and portable and dust resistant because not exposing the sensor during lens changes like DSLR).

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IEBA1
By IEBA1 (Jan 7, 2012)

And can I zoom with the rocker around the shutter- enabling single handed "do everything" usage. There's a big market out there (adventurers, etc) who don't have two hands to dedicate to camera operation every time they want to take a picture.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

You need 2 hands to zoom with the X-S1, because there is no servo motor and you have to turn the zoom ring by hand. Or better yet, use a 15mm rod system and a FF or zoom gear to make zooming steadier.

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TxCamFan
By TxCamFan (Jan 5, 2012)

Interesting how Amazon has this available for pre-order already - at $100 MORE than MSR price.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

US$799.95 = US$799.95. At list price, not above it. Maybe you want to buy it from Adorama or B&H Photo Video instead. It's a nickel short of 800 shekels there.

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TxCamFan
By TxCamFan (Jan 10, 2012)

It was first listed at 899.95 on Amazon. They (obviously) updated the prices since I posted that.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 14, 2012)

Price on amazon.com is $800 for pre-orders on Jan. 14, 2012, but for $850, one vendor is supposed to have it in stock.

But I would wait until/if Fujifilm issues a "WHITE ORBS/WHITE DISC CORRECTION FIRMWARE UPDATE" for the X-S1 (as well as the X10). If you get it now and the firmware update supposed to happen sometime in February won't help, it'll be too late to return the thing.

This is a pretty glaring problem from Fujifilm -- I am now wondering what else could possibly be wrong with these cameras?

I guess they decided that the camera is "MADE IN JAPAN," and the product testing is done in the real world by real users.

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ConanFuji
By ConanFuji (Jan 5, 2012)

Isn't NP95 the same battery used on the F30??
Does it have HD?

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 5, 2012)

Nagging fear: that the review or early buyer tests won't reveal whether this zoom model will outperform cheaper 1/2.3" sensor models, in terms of sharp results with objecgts at great distances in medium or low light. Wildlife often gather or roam under dim conditions or in shadows. Shots must usually be hand-held. Long zoom, the narrowing of the aperture, slow shutter speed, or any hand or subject motion make blur hard to avoid. If X-S1 offers any solid advantage, at 400 ISO or less, it will be worth the money. If not, this buyer would be a weeper.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

With respect, I am not following your reasoning, or even what the question or issue really is for you? You are comparing this 2/3-inch sensor camera priced at $800 to one of those little tiny 1/2.3-inch sensor jobs for less than half the price, or what?

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sensibill
By sensibill (Jan 9, 2012)

It's a 2/3" sensor, not a 1/2.3" sensor. And it will, barring some inexplicable screwup in design or manufacturing, should significantly outperform micro sensor models, especially at medium or low light.

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Ibida Bab
By Ibida Bab (Jan 5, 2012)

I am ready to buy.

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grahamdyke
By grahamdyke (Jan 5, 2012)

This really is a monster camera, its larger and heavier than my K-5 + 18-135 lens and $799, that wil no doubt equate to about £599, whats the point?

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 5, 2012)

Greater wide/zoom range with a single lens, that's what. Quote me a price on a 624mm equivalent tele lens for a K-5. What would it weigh? How fast at the long end? Would you be able to switch between it and a wide lens in a jiff in the field? Properly sealed, the Fuji should be less vulnerable to sensor dust too.

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Retro Joe
By Retro Joe (Jan 5, 2012)

to Cy Cheze: who needs to shoot at 624mm? Come on, now. Especially given the limitations of the lens/small sensor combo. Why don't you just strap a cheap telescope to a very low end, old model, dslr and you can do better? Sure, it sounds nice on paper(to people who want it to) but you need to be more realistic. Buy an EPL-1 or 2 with a good old Nikon/Canon/Tokina/Sigma/Tamron telephoto lens and 4/3 adapter and shoot manual for FAR LESS MONEY and better results.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 5, 2012)

Retro Joe: who needs to shoot at 624mm?

"For the birds," literally and not facetiously. Ditto for other beasts or sports figures not inclined to come to your studio and pose.

Retro Joe: Why don't you just strap a cheap telescope to a very low end, old model, dslr and you can do better?

Yeah, and carry that through Manu or Xingu and set it up fast. Plus, the "cheap telescope" is neither cheap nor stabilized for hand-held shots.

The whole point is that the X-S1 does offer a bigger sensor than the other compact super zooms. It will be worth seeing how it's tests come out, though hand-held long zoom shots are seldom part of the standard review and individuals' "real world" tests are hard to compare against others.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

@ grahamdyke: "This really is a monster camera, its larger and heavier than my K-5 + 18-135 lens and $799, that wil no doubt equate to about £599, whats the point?"

No point for you, obviously. For starters, it's just too darn heavy. And that is just so darn bad for one's health.

@ Retro Joe: you really haven't a clue, do you? Just one thing then in passing. $10,000 to $60,000 video camcorders use 2/3-inch CMOS sensors. The shooters using those do not consider the 2/3-inch imager size "small" in those. In fact, it is the largest sensor size that the video camcorders come with today. So why would it be "small" in an $800 camera then? Why, what do you have -- a couple of medium format cameras and an IMAX-cam?

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Retro Joe
By Retro Joe (Jan 5, 2012)

First, when shooting with the X10 I didn't have an orb problem. I see where some might, given lighting conditions. That said, the X-S1 is the camera the X10 should have been at its US street price of $599.

As it is, the X-S1 may well have its own cult following but that's about it. Really? $799? So many alternatives for that money and you all know this to be true.

I won't bash the camera because it looks to be the best of the line of camera. If you buy one, it should only be because you want one, not because you think it superior to a DSLR or mirrorless set up that you could buy for the same or less money.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

"the X-S1 is the camera the X10 should have been at its US street price of $599."

Not really. The X10 is the X10. But this is the X-S1. And the X-S1 is the X-S1. Right?

Also, last I checked, nobody is forcing anyone to spend $799 or $800 for an X-S1 camera. Not even Fujifilm. Right?

"If you buy one, it should only be because you want one..."

Wow, Retro, that is the best advice I had ever read in the past 10 seconds! Thanks a whole bunch. Feeling better already. I was actually considering buying a Fujifilm X-S1 camera -- even though I did not even want to buy one.

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sensibill
By sensibill (Jan 9, 2012)

You mean the 'cult' that 'nobody needs' of zoom in excess of 600mm? Better go tell that tiny niche 'cult' of nature and wildlife photographers.

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dpfan32
By dpfan32 (Jan 5, 2012)

= 799 EUR
no thanks....

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

Come on over to New York, and you can have it for the exact same amount in dollars. Or less.

It's so sad that folks in Europe and in the UK always have to pay 20 to 40 percent more for everything technical than we do here in the States.

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kff
By kff (Jan 5, 2012)

same sensor etc. .... because as any people want to be great photographer with a big machine as more who are buying DSLR these days and they never will use another mode than P ...

but conncetivity isn't for users with Apple and Android devices, where is such wi-fi etc. ?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

Huh?

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Jan 5, 2012)

800 bucks? An ORBital release ... *cough*

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ConanFuji
By ConanFuji (Jan 5, 2012)

Don't you mean an ex-ORB-itant release?

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jj74e
By jj74e (Jan 5, 2012)

damn that sounds like a great camera. it's about time supposedly high end superzoom cams get higher end sensors.

the price....at first, I think that it's priced more than what the sony 5N costs, and a lot of other in-many-ways-better cameras. but then i realize it's only 200 bucks more expensive than the X10, which is a pretty deal considering you get a fairly fast zoom lens, quality EVF and more body material to account for.

however that just makes me realize exactly how overpriced the X10 camera is, and this camera as well. if it's performance is up to par, the $799 price might be justified, considering many high end compacts originally run for around $499 before going on sale. but then again, i consider those overpriced too.

ehh overall, i think if the firmware/performance matches the hardware, it should sell okay, although i'll be waiting for a decent sale before i even consider buying it

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 14, 2012)

Too bad you cannot twist a remote shutter release cable into the X-S1's shutter button, like you can with the X100 and X-Pro1. Why did they had to cheapen it, isn't it enough that the things records white orbs all over the map (fortunately not in video mode), just like the X10 does?

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Nate21
By Nate21 (Jan 5, 2012)

the sensor size might be great upgrade from the fujifilm hs-10 but the price is a ball buster but like most fuji cameras sounds good on paper but the results must be tested with real world samples.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (Jan 5, 2012)

It's being tested here in the Fuji forums. This camera has SERIOUS problems with orbs, which, IMHO, completely spoil the otherwise excellent camera.

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rccasgar
By rccasgar (Jan 5, 2012)

Let's wait for DPREVIEW test. It's clear that X-S1 is going to share the same sensor than X10, but maybe X-S1 is not having the orbs issue... who knows.

In this forum there were quite a lot of people saying that those so perfect orbs where too perfect for being a sensor defect, and betting on a firmware problem ...

I still hope that X-S1 is not having the orbs problem, as the camera seems amazing.

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (Jan 5, 2012)

Not a chance. The informed consensus is the ORBS are created by sensor overloading. Not correctable with software.

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IEBA1
By IEBA1 (Jan 7, 2012)

Sensor overloading also has to deal with exposure (correctable with iris/shutter) and voltage applied to the pixel (possibly adjustable in firmware.) Now, I'm not saying it's fixable, and if not correctable, it's a deal buster, but there is hope.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

Here comes rattymouse, one of the reliable, stalwart leaders of the "Fujifilm Orbsters Wild Brigade." :-)

I hope Fujifilm will NOT fix the" so-called, alleged "white orb issue" that this X-S1 does not even have, because that would put these assorted Wild Orbsters quickly out of business.

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Summit_pg
By Summit_pg (Jan 5, 2012)

Queue the ORBs...it shares the same sensor, and same issues, as the Fuji X10.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 8, 2012)

"Orbsters of the World, Unite!"

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