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Sony announces three CMOS-based compacts including 18MP DSC-TX200V

By dpreview staff on Jan 30, 2012 at 04:00 GMT

Sony has announced three CMOS-based compact cameras - the Cyber-Shots DSC-TX200V, DSC-WX50 and DSC-WX70. The TX200V is a GPS-equipped card-style touch-screen waterproof camera with Sony's latest 18MP back-lit CMOS sensor. It also includes the company's fast AF system that aims to reduce focus times down as low as 0.1 sec and 0.2 sec in low light. It can also grab 13.5MP stills while shooting 1080p60 video. It also has an WVGA-equivalent OLED touch screen and glass front panel, spoiling the whole thing only slightly by using Micro SD cards. The WX50 meanwhile offers the older 16MP and 5x, 25-125mm zoom.

The WX70 is essentially a WX50 with a 3.0" 920k dot touch-screen, rather than the WX50's 2.7" 230k dot unit. Both can record 1080i60 video and can capture 13MP stills while doing so. All three cameras feature Sony's 'Clear Zoom' up-resing technology and the combined pixel-binning and up-resing low-light mode.

In its description of the TX200V's fast AF, Sony suggests that the camera compares out-of-focus images to determine which direction to move the lens to achieve focus, avoiding the camera scanning for focus in the wrong direction. This sounds a lot like phase-detection to us but we're still chasing for more information.

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Press Release:

SONY INTRODUCES NEW ASSORTMENT OF COMPACT, HIGH-POWERED CYBER-SHOT® CAMERAS

SAN DIEGO, Jan. 29, 2012 – Sony’s newest Cyber-shot® digital still cameras make it easy to capture beautiful memories anytime and anywhere.

Three new models include the DSC-TX200V model from the ultra-thin Cyber-shot T series and the DSC-WX70 and DSC-WX50 models from the stylish, traditionally designed W series, each featuring a high-resolution “Exmor R” CMOS sensor and an improved BIONZ™ image processor that together boost low light performance and enhance auto-focus speeds, among other benefits. 

“We continue to innovate in the compact camera space, finding new ways to help consumers produce high-quality photos and videos as easily as possible, regardless of lighting conditions” said Yosuke Tomoda, director of the Cyber-shot business at Sony Electronics. “With new technologies designed to improve the overall imaging experience - including extended creativity, control and more - this new lineup of Cyber-shot cameras delivers impressive results with stylish, pocket-sized bodies.” High-Resolution, High-Speed, High-Quality

The new TX200V camera features a newly developed 18.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor, the highest-resolution currently offered in the “point and shoot” market, and a new BIONZ™ processor, which work together to create images and video files with extremely low noise. The advanced model also offers lightning-fast AutoFocus speeds of approximately 0.13 seconds in daytime and 0.25 seconds in low-light situations (speeds may vary based on shooting conditions), helping to ensure you never miss the moment. 

Additionally, the TX200V Cyber-shot showcases a new beautiful, reinforced glass design with a large, 3.3-inch (8.3cm) Xtra Fine™ TruBlack OLED wide touch-screen. It is also water-proof (up to 5m or approx.16 feet), dust-proof and freeze-proof (up to 14oF), and features a “Photo Creativity” interface that lets users easily adjust creative settings to produce unique, custom-styled photos.

The new WX70 and WX50 models each are equipped with a high-resolution 16.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor, with the WX70 featuring a 3.0-inch 921k dot LCD touch-screen and the WX50 featuring a slightly smaller 2.7-inch LCD screen.

All-Around Performance

Each of the new Cyber-shot cameras features a new “Extra High Sensitivity” technology, which minimizes unwanted noise in low-light shooting conditions.  For consumers who want to get closer to their subjects without losing quality, these new models have “Clear Image Zoom” technology, which boosts optical zoom to 2x virtual capability (i.e. 5x optical zoom to 10x virtual zoom) at full camera resolution.   

The TX200V, WX70 and WX50 cameras also offer image stabilization during video and still shooting.  Using technology borrowed from the Sony Handycam® lineup, the “Optical Steady Shot Active Mode” drastically reduces blurring caused by camera shake while on the move.  All models can shoot video in Full HD resolution.

Additional notable features of the new lineup include nine “Picture Effect” options for expanded creativity, “Dual Record” capabilities, 3D shooting modes (3D Still Image, 3D Sweep Panorama and Sweep Multi Angle), fast shooting speeds (10 fps burst mode) and more.

Product Specs, Pricing and Availability

The new assortment of cameras and an expanded range of stylish accessories, including the new LCS-WM and LCS-THT soft carrying cases, will be available this March at Sony retail stores and online (www.store.sony.com) as well as other authorized retailers throughout the Sony dealer network.  Detailed specs are below:

  • The DSC-TX200V camera will be available in silver, red, and violet for approximately $500.  Features include:
  • 18.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor
  • 26mm equivalent lens with 5x optical zoom, 10x virtual zoom via “Clear Image Zoom” technology
  • “Extra High Sensitivity” technology enhances low-light shooting capabilities
  • Lightning-fast AF speed of approximately 0.13 second in daylight, 0.25 seconds in low-light (speeds may vary based on shooting conditions)
  • Beautiful, slim reinforced glass design with 3.3-inch (8.3cm) Xtra Fine™ Tru-Black OLED wide touch-screen
  • Waterproof (up to 5m,16 feet), dustproof and freeze-proof (up to 14oF)
  • Captures 13 MP equivalent still images while shooting video via “Dual-Record”
  • Full HD Movie Shooting capability (1920x1080/60p) and Optical SteadyShot Active Mode
  • Photo Creativity interface and 9 “Picture Effect” options for creating unique, custom-styled photos and video
  • The DSC-WX70 camera will be available in silver, black, pink, violet and white for approximately $230. Features include:
  • 16.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor, 3.0-inch 921k dot LCD touch screen
  • 25mm equivalent lens with 5x optical zoom, 10x virtual zoom via “Clear Image Zoom” technology
  • “Extra High Sensitivity” technology enhances low-light shooting capabilities
  • Captures 12 MP equivalent still images while shooting video via “Dual-Record”
  • Full HD Movie Shooting capability (1920x1080/60i) and Optical SteadyShot Active Mode
  • 9 total “Picture Effects” options,  allowing for creative, custom styled photographs
  • The DSC-WX50 camera will be available in silver and black for approximately $200. Features include:
  • 16.2 MP “Exmor R” CMOS sensor, 2.7-inch LCD screen
  • 25mm equivalent lens with 5x optical zoom, 10x virtual zoom via “Clear Image Zoom” technology
  • “Extra High Sensitivity” technology enhances low-light shooting capabilities
  • Captures 12 MP equivalent still images while shooting video via “Dual-Record”
  • Full HD Movie Shooting capability (1920x1080/60i) and Optical SteadyShot Active Mode
  • 9 total “Picture Effects” options,  allowing for creative, custom styled photographs

Sony DSC-TX200V, DSC-WX70, DSC-WX50 specifications

 Sony Cyber-shot DSC-TX200VSony Cyber-shot DSC-WX70Sony Cyber-shot DSC-WX50
Price
MSRP$499.99
Body type
Body typeUltracompactCompact
Sensor
Max resolution4896 x 36724608 x 3456
Other resolutions4912 x 1080, 4896 x 2752, 3648 x 2736, 3424 x 1920, 2592 x 1944, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 4804608 x 2592, 3648 x 2736, 2592 x 1944, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 480
Image ratio w:h4:3, 16:9
Effective pixels18 megapixels16 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors19 megapixels17 megapixels
Sensor size1/2.3" (6.17 x 4.55 mm)
Sensor typeBSI-CMOS
ProcessorBIONZ
Image
ISOAuto, 64, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800Auto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800
White balance presets86
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationOptical
Uncompressed formatNo
File format
  • JPEG (Exif 2.3)
  • 3D: MPF
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)28–140 mm25–125 mm
Optical zoom5×
Maximum apertureF3.5 - F4.8F2.6 - F6.3
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Selective single-point
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Touch
  • Face Detection
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Touch
  • Face Detection
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Face Detection
Digital zoomYes (20x)
Manual focusNo
Normal focus range60 cm (23.62)
Macro focus range3 cm (1.18)5 cm (1.97)
Number of focus points9
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3.332.7
Screen dots1,229,760921,600460,800
Touch screenYesNo
Screen type1,229,760 dots equiv. XtraFine TruBlack OLED display XtraFine TFT LCD displayClearfoto TFT LCD display
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed2 sec4 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/1600 sec
Exposure modes
  • Program AE
Scene modes
  • High Sensitivity
  • Night Scene
  • Handheld Twilight
  • Night Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Soft Snap
  • Soft Skin
  • Anti Motion Blur
  • Backlight Correction HDR
  • Beach
  • Snow
  • Fireworks
  • Hispeed Shutter
  • Underwater
  • Gourmet
  • Pet Mode
  • High Sensitivity
  • Night Scene
  • Handheld Twilight
  • Night Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Soft Snap
  • Soft Skin
  • Anti Motion Blur
  • Backlight Correction HDR
  • Beach
  • Snow
  • Fireworks
  • Gourmet
  • Pet Mode
Built-in flashYes
Flash range3.10 m5.30 m
External flashNo
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Slow Sync
Drive modes
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Self-timer
Continuous drive10 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec, Portrait 1/2)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (60 fps), 1440 x 1080 (30 fps), 1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, AVCHD
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesMemory Stick Duo/Pro Duo/Pro-HG DuoSD/SDHC/SDXC/Memory Stick Duo/Memory Stick Pro Duo, Memory Stick Pro-HG Duo
Storage included105 MB19 MB
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes
Remote controlNo
Physical
Environmentally sealedYes (up to 15 feet)No
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion NP-BN battery and charger
Battery Life (CIPA)220240
Weight (inc. batteries)129 g (0.28 lb / 4.55 oz)114 g (0.25 lb / 4.02 oz)117 g (0.26 lb / 4.13 oz)
Dimensions96 x 58 x 16 mm (3.78 x 2.28 x 0.63)92 x 52 x 19 mm (3.62 x 2.05 x 0.75)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingNo
GPSBuiltInNone

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Comments

Total comments: 146
12
Chrystos
By Chrystos (Jun 9, 2012)

I've had my tx-10 for over a yr now & have taken thousands of photos (in the rain, hail,cold, kayaking, macros, movies, "3D" shots, dropped it on rocks) and I am really happy with it! Because of the tiny zoom, I "shoot first, zoom later" with <major> cropping onscreen--eg to get near wildlife. I LOVE the 1 cm macro, and the low light capacity (haven't used the flash, ever).
What could be better about it?The 2.75" screen is not 2.75 in but 2.5", with those 2 icon strips. False advertising. The whole thing is TOO SMALL. I'd love it to be more tank-like, and heavier (like I'm going to notice a 30 grams when my water bottle is 2 lb !). I hate those little instruction pop ups that periodically appear when I want to boot up fast. I am excited about getting a tx-200 sometime soon; EyeFi wireless uploads?A larger screen? 18 MP for deeper crop-zooms in post shooting? Just wrap it in another layer of aluminum (for another 30 grams of weight, oh my poor arms :-) ) & I am quite stoked.

0 upvotes
darrenberk
By darrenberk (Jun 22, 2012)

true, it is indeed a very exciting camera to wait for. It does seem to have some issues as reviewed at

http://www.squidoo.com/sony-tx200v

0 upvotes
maboule123
By maboule123 (Feb 5, 2012)

I read on another site a comment that made me ponder about these new Sony models: It mentioned the close resemblance, in size and looks they have to the iphone.
Get my drift?
Let me explain: Have you noticed the thousands of photo apps for the iphone and other smart phones as well? Incredible. One is only 3 touches away from transforming a simple snapshot into a great looking image. Some of those effects will take consuming time to edit on photoshop. iphone image resolution is 5mp. Enough size for the vast quantity of quick shots people post on facebook. A 2mp image is big enough to act as a desktop image. I believe this is a trial shot from Sony. Next they'll add a phone apps to this cameras. It will bring the end to the small P&S camera division.
Wonder why the youth no longer buys wrist watches? Because the darn, big thing ONLY shows time. They have it on their cell phones. Then again WHY buy a P&S camera when that thing ONLY takes pictures?

Comment edited 6 minutes after posting
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rmbackus
By rmbackus (Jan 31, 2012)

I must disappoint you all.
No firm will listen to your remarks and complaints anymore. They are simply grown too big and are not interested. The goal is to sell the product by the millions and at the moment the consumer finds out its flaws, the brand will announce the new ‘updated’ product and the consumers again will spread out their sleeping bags in line outside on the street to wait until the sale starts.

3 upvotes
Sam Carriere
By Sam Carriere (Jan 31, 2012)

Isn't it absolutely amazing that a company that still hasn't managed to deliver on "new" products it announced last summer is once again...announcing new products? When will these be in the stores? 2018?

0 upvotes
rmbackus
By rmbackus (Feb 2, 2012)

That's because the flood in Thailand. Their plants went down.

1 upvote
Alfie Smith
By Alfie Smith (Jan 31, 2012)

Nikon D700- 12 Mpx
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-TX200V 18 Mpx

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-TX200V is the winner !

2 upvotes
Reg Natarajan
By Reg Natarajan (Jan 31, 2012)

You know, as dumb as it is for manufacturers to be endlessly increasing the megapixel count, it's equally dumb for equipment nuts to keep complaining about it as though more pixels won't merely not help but will actually somehow harm IQ. All these cameras let you shoot at lower res. Just set your defaults to a lower setting if it bothers you and move on. The megapixel climb isn't over no matter how much you complain about it.

2 upvotes
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 31, 2012)

Yet I'm sure that will set off a debate whether use of lower resolution setting does any "good" if it simply entails oversampling from the same tiny, redundant pixels. The "proof" cannot be in what pixel peepers see, but what the consumer prefers in the typical viewing mode. Any other "proof" is neither more nor less than what motivates buyer choice, and the number of pixels still tends to the criterion that dominates.

1 upvote
photoguy622
By photoguy622 (Jan 31, 2012)

Lowering in the resolution will not make the pixels on the sensor physically larger, so all you end up with are smaller equally bad files.

3 upvotes
Lobalobo
By Lobalobo (Feb 1, 2012)

This misses the point. Whether used or not, dense pixels are small pixels and absent some pixel binning technology--generally absent in these point-and-shoot cameras--the extra pixels can hurt.

0 upvotes
rmbackus
By rmbackus (Feb 2, 2012)

Still don't know if lower res means: simply pixels shut-off, or pixels merged to collect more light and give less noise.

0 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (Jan 31, 2012)

All power to Sony and camera manufacturers everywhere, but where will this all end? Do we need this many camera's?

1 upvote
dtmoody
By dtmoody (Jan 31, 2012)

I hear ya. Its rather daunting and overload.

0 upvotes
Karroly
By Karroly (Jan 31, 2012)

Part 2/2,
On the opposite, when there is enough light to use the full 18mp resolution, it is possible to use digital zoom (crop) down to, let's say, 3mp (enough for standard prints and watching on HD TV), which allows for a smaller, lighter optical zoom with a smaller range. The drawback is that in low light you cannot combine full digital zoom and pixel-binning...

3 upvotes
Karroly
By Karroly (Jan 31, 2012)

Part 1/2,
I first thought this endless (?) increase in pixel count was stupid.
But not has stupid as that for ultra-compact cameras...
In low light, Sony uses pixel-binning. If they combine, let's say three pixels into one, it is equivalent to a 6 mp sensor. I am not an expert, but I think it should give better results than a true 6mp sensor of the same size.
IMHO there is no reason why a big pixel should generate less noise than a small pixel ( I mean the electrical level of noise before amplification ).
The problem is that the small pixel will collect less light, leading to a lower s/n. By grouping three small pixels, assuming gap between adjacent pixels is negligeable, the group will collect as much light as the big pixel alone. BUT, the noise of the group of three pixels will be averaged, resulting in a smaller difference in the noise level between two adjacent groups of three small pixels than between two big pixels of the true 6mp sensor... And then the s/n should be better...

1 upvote
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Jan 31, 2012)

i've never heard of any sensor that has pixel binning... except for the Foveon sensor which already has plans for it from the start, but only implemented in the SD1.

1 upvote
Kerry B
By Kerry B (Jan 31, 2012)

Very interested to see if the pixel-binning makes it any more effective. Waiting on DXO labs for that, unless I get to demo the unit soon.

0 upvotes
GarageBoy
By GarageBoy (Jan 30, 2012)

5m is 15' ish, stay near the surface...

So, because its glass and thin and targeted towards the extreme conditions, how many are going to end up shattered/for parts on ebay?

0 upvotes
DioCanon
By DioCanon (Jan 30, 2012)

to tamras29 and everyone against Sony high pixel cont

I have a Canon and I am not defending Sony;
I agree that 18 mpx for a small sensor is stupid, considering most expert say that for that size 6 is enough..
But dont forget the NEX 7 has been declared by all reviews the best IQ APSC sensor out there.
And if there are 24mpxs, every single one of them is welcome.

1 upvote
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Jan 31, 2012)

not.

3 upvotes
Alfie Smith
By Alfie Smith (Jan 31, 2012)

LOL !

0 upvotes
rocklobster
By rocklobster (Jan 30, 2012)

Sony, being the great innovator that it is with their SLT series and NEX-7 are just trying to keep ahead of the market in compact cameras as well and perhaps megapixel count is still the only way that this can be achieved.
The market perception that megapixel number is paramount is not going to go away anytime soon. The same can be said for big zoom numbers irrespective of the dim f-stop result at the extreme tele end of the range.
Most people (the target market) are not really interested in fast lenses, ISO settings, dynamic range, colour bit depth etc, - they are all interelated but it is too complex for them. That, my friends, is what sets us apart and potentially allows us to take better photographs than they.

So, instead of bagging the product or the manufacturer, lets rejoice in the fact they we, as photographic enthusiasts, know the difference and can offer advice even if it falls on deaf ears.

2 upvotes
elester
By elester (Jan 31, 2012)

yeah. i work in retail, and diligently try to improve the knowledge base amongst consumers. it's my small contribution to the improvement of the market. lol. i just look at this camera and sigh.

3 upvotes
OldZorki
By OldZorki (Jan 30, 2012)

Anyone tried to use touch screen under water? I tried on older model, could not get any response. Have they changed touch screen technology?

2 upvotes
dtmoody
By dtmoody (Jan 30, 2012)

More people on here on so he_ll bent on bitc_hing and complaining about petty stuff that they really don't even care about for the sake of doing it.

0 upvotes
CarlPH
By CarlPH (Jan 30, 2012)

isn't that what the comments section is all about?

1 upvote
dtmoody
By dtmoody (Jan 31, 2012)

Yup! Go ahead boys and girls... complain away :)

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dtmoody
By dtmoody (Jan 30, 2012)

Why are so many of you trying to compare this with a FF DSLR?! ...and getting frustrated about it. Geesh. Seriously people... calm down.

1 upvote
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 31, 2012)

No, the apt comparison for the WX-70 or WX-50 would be the WX-1 and WX-5. Arguably, the latest models are a step backward. Prediction: low-light results will be worse than before, or (owing to NR) be just about equally smeary.

1 upvote
Dmitriy Balashov
By Dmitriy Balashov (Jan 30, 2012)

18 Mp
Sensor size 1/2.3"
Iso 12800

Ridiculous.

2 upvotes
w. coyote
By w. coyote (Jan 30, 2012)

re: TX200V ???

with no sliding lens cover, like the other TX-series have, where is the lens hiding? i don't see any hint of it, except that tiny dot to the left of the flash...

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LukeDuciel
By LukeDuciel (Jan 31, 2012)

it's a "tough" camera. I don't think it has lens cover. For example, Canon D10 doesn't have lens cover. It has a protective glass in front, keeping water and dust away. From my usage experience, the glass is pretty scratch free.

Personally, I think the slide cover for tough cam is stupid. Try one on the beach you will understand.

1 upvote
Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 30, 2012)

Why do clueless people compare this to a FF DSLR ? I bet Philip Bloom gets this to keep in his coat pocket for shooting 1080p60 in the rain and snow.

1 upvote
dtmoody
By dtmoody (Jan 30, 2012)

I could care less about the MP size/quantity. As long as its decently responsive and the output is good, I think the TX200 is looking rather nice. I mean, I would not expect this to replace a full size DSLR. But for what it is, a nice weather sealed compact point and shoot that slips in your pocket.

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Jan 30, 2012)

How good would a 5MP sensor be with todays technology?

18Mp is quite crazy for a ultra compact. I wonder how large the images are. (13-18MB?)

2 upvotes
grafli
By grafli (Jan 30, 2012)

My Canon EOS 7D produces 18MP files that are muche smaller, like 7-9MB depending on the subject and the ISO value.
My guess would be, that the sony files would be even smaller, because of the smaller sensor... (4-6MB)

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Yiotis
By Yiotis (Jan 30, 2012)

bigger default compression

2 upvotes
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Jan 31, 2012)

i thought no one would ask. it will have better dynamic range since shadow noise would be low.
it would have extremely fast shutter speeds at daylight, perfect for zooms and action.
if the manufacturer would permit, then it will have ISO speeds the same as APS-C.
if the manufacturer wills it, it can have an FPS faster than most would need, like Nikon's 1 system.

after saying all this, it is now i realized that consumers wouldn't need more expensive cameras after all and camera makers would not like that. yes, the MP race lives on.

1 upvote
VadymA
By VadymA (Jan 30, 2012)

I am sure if Sony left it with 12MP sensor there would be as many sarcastic comments about that demanding higher resolution.

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inoctis
By inoctis (Jan 30, 2012)

Who invents such Sensors? The People who should know how to improve IQ oder the people who buy their first digicam?

Seems like Stupidity doesnt know any Limits!

4 upvotes
Mssimo
By Mssimo (Jan 30, 2012)

Sony has a new video camera that puts out 24Mp stills. They don't tell people the sensor is 6Mp native.

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Yiotis
By Yiotis (Jan 30, 2012)

I'm so scared to challenge this awesome camera with my Nikon D2Hs(4MP)

4 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (Jan 30, 2012)

You are not alone. My 1DsII would lose too. lol....oh Sony~~~

4 upvotes
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Jan 31, 2012)

Count me in. Sigma DP2 4.7MP. Oh no, I'm not even half the MP count of this revolutionary camera.

2 upvotes
schaki
By schaki (Feb 3, 2012)

I'm also in for the 'challenge' with my Nikon D1H with only 2.6mp ;)

0 upvotes
gl2k
By gl2k (Jan 30, 2012)

1/2.3 sensor
19 MP
ISO 12000

ha ha ha ... biggest crap ever seen ...

7 upvotes
Dmitriy Balashov
By Dmitriy Balashov (Jan 30, 2012)

Just wait a year - they'll announce a 24mp with 25600 on the same sensor. ;-)

2 upvotes
Beckler8
By Beckler8 (Jan 30, 2012)

Re:TX200V The iphone copycat design with no thought of how humans are actually supposed to *grip* this thing, has gone too far. I have the TX7 which has a tiny handgrip, more buttons and not quite as smooth--even that is already not appropriate for humans. I'm sick of the apple phenomenon. They're a large bad influence on ergonomics IMO, and way overhyped for no reason.

Comment edited 56 seconds after posting
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dtmoody
By dtmoody (Jan 30, 2012)

The TX200V looks real nice. I like its weather sealed too. Perfect pocket camera to take everywhere. Highly interested in this one.

1 upvote
Alfie Smith
By Alfie Smith (Jan 30, 2012)

Stupid Mpixels race... 18Mpx in such a camere is stupid !!! all we must claim STOP !

2 upvotes
Mssimo
By Mssimo (Jan 30, 2012)

What model do you think has better IQ? The 16 or 18MP...or maybe last years 14 or 12MP models.

I don't think the IQ would go up because of the MP alone.

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Alfie Smith
By Alfie Smith (Jan 31, 2012)

Easy answer. This year's technology with 8-10 Mpx. maybe 6 Mp.
Is there anyone that will print A1 pics with this camera??? LOL.!

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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JohnFredC
By JohnFredC (Jan 30, 2012)

These little Sonys are the most versatile cameras ever. The images have decent quality. Sony's totally nuts noise control is rarely an issue in practice. Depth of field is huge for those who dislike bokeh of any kind. Macro convenience is superb, closeups can be astonishing. Menu layouts are legible and logical to use, w/good control over metering and focus. The small size enables pics in situations and environments even slightly larger cameras just cannot. Too bad this new version doesn't have the sliding front cover. The ease of slipping one out of your pocket while sliding it on with your thumb, snapping the pic with camera hidden in your hand, returning it to pocket while sliding it off without looking at the camera... lost without the sliding mechanism. Someday I hope for 6x zoom, an intervalometer function, and shutter speeds longer than 2 second. Not much else is needed except better noise reduction and somewhat sharper detail in the corners, all of which will come in time.

1 upvote
Riprap
By Riprap (Jan 30, 2012)

I wonder if you can mix the shooting modes together so that an Underwater Firework mode could be used. It would then be a USP rather than the 18MP's and be as useful!

0 upvotes
Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 30, 2012)

DPR is showing a 1,229,760 dot 3.3-inch (8.3cm) Xtra Fine™ Tru-Black OLED wide touch-screen but Sony store is showing a 921k dot 3" LCD :

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666416911#specifications

Sony please dump memory stick , the Betamax of memory cards.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Jan 30, 2012)

The specs Sony sent us, and their press release, say OLED, but we'll check.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Jan 30, 2012)

We've checked and they're going to correct their website.

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 30, 2012)

Thanks, I knew that 921k dot 3" LCD could not be correct on the Sony store site.

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samep
By samep (Jan 31, 2012)

Don't forget you can use SD Card.....

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ispress
By ispress (Jan 30, 2012)

The TX200V looks fantastic, and super fast autofocus will make it a good choice for shooting kids and social situations. Now give it an Android interface so I can download photography apps and share straight from the camera (like Polaroid's new Android camera) and you've got a fantastic, pocketable, "fun" camera. (I recognize that what I've just described sounds a lot like an iPhone, lol, but the CMOS sensor (despite its mp overkill) and fast autofocus will allow this to do things that Apple's phone cannot.)

2 upvotes
NeilJones
By NeilJones (Jan 30, 2012)

Well I like it.

3 upvotes
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 30, 2012)

The WX-70 and WX-50 both have slower lenses than their predecessors. WX-1 through WX-10 offered F/2.4 at the wide end.

Now Sony offers only F/2.6. Slower aperture + more pixels = worse low light performance.

Compact low light performance was a key draw of the WX series, offsetting other liimitations. But the latest two surrender that advantage for the sake of [fill in the blank].

On a retail shelf, alas, it probably "pays" to boast more megapixels and more LCD "dots." I never once overheard any shoppers ask for a fast aperture. Any "sales associate" who tries to persuade a buyer that megapixels aren't the key to quality will earn skeptical sneers and drive away clients.

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Kerry B
By Kerry B (Jan 31, 2012)

Over the past year, the retailer I work for has progressively made it's camera associates more knowledgeable about what gives better IQ (fast, high quality lens, large sensor).
As a matter of fact, across consumers (in the past six months) I have had many less "I thought more megapixels - the better" and more "I want something that performs well in low light."
There doesn't really need to be much debate, as most consumers are not willing to pay for an expensive OLED. This camera will at least fail in my market (which is one of the ten richest in the USA), where they can buy a much better Canon s100 for less money (with the option of buying an underwater case if necessary).

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Jan 30, 2012)

Another bunch of smearmasters. Thanks but no thanks, Sony!

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Helena777
By Helena777 (Jan 30, 2012)

Just like the rest of manufacturers... PnS made for sell, not to be efficient machines. PnS tech limits was reached ¿3 years ago? and now cam-makers (all) are marketing pure smoke.

The PnS road time ago came to an end, in my opinion.

The only ways I see for creating valuable Pns are: integrate bigger sensors and lenses (ala Canon G1X, Fuji X100, etc.) or wait for liquid lenses (with a comfortable chair).

Nowadays we are living the agony of classical PnS. Mobile Phone killed the camera star :D

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ednl
By ednl (Jan 30, 2012)

Same battery life for the WX70 with touchscreen and WX50 without? That doesn't seem right.

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Grant
By Grant (Jan 30, 2012)

LOL...Absolute zero is 450 degrees below zero on the F scale. So no it doesn't operate at that level nor do many things. What they are saying is this camera can be left in your car in very cold weather without damage. Unless of course you're parked on one of the outer planets.

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gonzalu
By gonzalu (Jan 30, 2012)

-459.67 degrees Fahrenheit to be exact :-)

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Grant
By Grant (Jan 30, 2012)

Living in NY you would know....:-) Thanks for the update.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jan 30, 2012)

Only18 MP?! In a 1/2,3 sensor?
Why not a godzillion? Just make 1 pixel = 1 atom. You'll get a crap camera which will be sold excellent, because of markeing.

I bet if Canon or Panasonic will make the upsize function on their 10mp S95/LX5 the final image will be miles better than this 18MP electronic waste.

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (Jan 30, 2012)

If it is "freeze proof up to 14 degrees fahrenheit" does this mean it will function at absolute zero? I would have thought the quantum mechanical effects would even overcome an Exmor processor. Also what happens between 14 and 32 degrees? I would have thought resistance to cold nearer freezing point would be more useful.

I do love all this new camera spin. The big breakthrough in corporate selling is manufacturers realising that investment in marketing is much more effective than investing in sensible development and quality control. The most important thing is to engineer a perception of quality and this is far more cost effective than wasting money on actual quality and performance.

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fire3000
By fire3000 (Jan 30, 2012)

They should have said "down to 14 degrees F". Obviously they mean that the camera should not be used below this temperature. Higher temps that do not exceed the max temp are fine.

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powerbook duo
By powerbook duo (Jan 30, 2012)

Erm Farenheit is not Kelvin
14 Degrees Farenheit is 263 Kelvin, way above absolute zero...
Water, however freezes at 32 degrees Farenheit, which is probably the source of your confusion
If Celcius was used instead, there'll be none of this confusion

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (Jan 30, 2012)

Each of the new Cyber-shot cameras features a new “Extra High Sensitivity” technology, which minimizes unwanted noise in low-light shooting conditions.

Presumably this is a technical description of the excessive smearing of detail that we see in all these cameras which have travelled so far into the la la land of silly megapixels.

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (Jan 30, 2012)

I still have a 2006 Sony DSC-N2 and the images with the 1/1.7 sensor are far superior than all the latest sonys (I also have tx7, tx9, wx10, tx-100v). The only compact camera that have finally beaten my old sony is the canon s100. I was hoping to see a pocket compact camera-enthusiast from sony. Sony please bring back the 1/1.7 sensor! 1/2.3 sensor never again, thank you...
P.S: The TX7 with 10MP is much better than all the other sony's latest high mp slim models... I imagine that the new 18mp sensor must be even worse...

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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Jan 30, 2012)

Glad you said that, I have the DSC-W70 and takes better than the feature packed Sony's. It could have been the lens.

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ZAnton
By ZAnton (Jan 30, 2012)

after watching of the gallery of the next Sony's camera I compared them to my old Sony H2 (6MP ultrazoom).
And they were better! They were sharp till the last pixel in the corner. On the contrary the super-duper-ultra-new-gigapixel-Sony's images were so smeared, that one could easily downsize them to 50% (on the lenght) without loss of any information.

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dresner
By dresner (Jan 30, 2012)

Hello next PnS

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Altruisto
By Altruisto (Jan 30, 2012)

And we read on the front of the cameras here 16.2 MP ?

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RPJG
By RPJG (Jan 30, 2012)

RTFA :-)

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Ergo607
By Ergo607 (Jan 30, 2012)

Just when you thought memory card format war was over, everyone jumps at micro sd. Someone please give me a hint why they are doing this...

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mdava
By mdava (Jan 30, 2012)

At a guess, it is because all mobile phone manufacturers are standardising on microSD and therefore interchangeability (especially for compact cameras) seems sensible?

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fz750
By fz750 (Jan 30, 2012)

I think it's because any tablet manufacturer that actually has an external card slot (hence, not the idiots at Apple) seem to have standardised on micro-SD and the tablet is probably the best way to bore your grandmother with your photo collection...

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jwalker019
By jwalker019 (Jan 30, 2012)

MicroSD is too small, especially if you ever plan on taking them out of the device :(

I have two of them I bought for mobile phones (which I've since replaced) a couple of years ago and they are so small, I'm just about to throw them away - can't keep track of them! Had one of them stuck to the bottom of my foot for a couple of hours before I noticed . . . ;)

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 30, 2012)

fz750: Let's not be so mean to Granny. Often she's the only one to look at her grandkids' pics and not jolt into an acute fit of attention deficit disorder (anger, jittering hands, erratic speech, bladder control failure).

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Jan 30, 2012)

I mis-read the title as 3-CMOS based compact, like a 3-CCD camcorder. For a moment I was excited that Sony was doing something new and interesting...

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neo_nights
By neo_nights (Jan 30, 2012)

+1

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qwertyasdf
By qwertyasdf (Jan 30, 2012)

ME THREE!
guess we are all stupid in the same way
(OK...or smart enough to know 3 CCDs exist)

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wetsleet
By wetsleet (Jan 30, 2012)

Glass faced, slab sided, rounded corners, built in camera function - expect a call from Apple's lawyers!

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kewlguy
By kewlguy (Jan 30, 2012)

10MP is mostly enough for compacts. It would be better if Sony stays at lower MP but improves the DR, noise, etc.. I'm sure most compact users will only upload the photos to social media sites. So 18MP? Users are forced to occupy the harddrives with low quality but large files. What a freak...

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EricoftheNorth
By EricoftheNorth (Jan 30, 2012)

Except the files have remained the same or even shrunk. It's pathetic, really.

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wetsleet
By wetsleet (Jan 30, 2012)

actually I would assume that most photos uploaded to social media sites are taken on mobile phones.
The vast majority of people never buy a D-SLR, so the compact is the 'proper' camera to them, and why not? Anyway, at 300dpi, 10Mpix is ample to fill an A4 print with a bit of cropping - and I suspect any latitude is far better used to gain dynamic range and low light performance before a higher resolution.

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inFocus
By inFocus (Jan 30, 2012)

If you want 10 MP, use the camera settings. If you want to upload to social media sites, set the camera to 2MP or whatever you fancy. What's the problem?

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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Jan 30, 2012)

If you want 18 MP, expand the image then print. The resolution advantage is NOT there anyway on this kind of sensor and lens. Look at the Canon 1D - X. Most casual users don't know how to change resolution as it's usually buried in the menus.

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DaddyG
By DaddyG (Jan 30, 2012)

Suggestion to DPReview: would be helpful if the sensor size was indicated in the leading paragraphs, so we can quickly determine the probable IQ and target market of new compacts - Thanks.

4 upvotes
trekkeruss
By trekkeruss (Jan 30, 2012)

They are compacts...it is virtually a given that they would be 1/2.3". It is also a given that such cameras are for the mass market, not the enthusiast photographer.

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oselimg
By oselimg (Jan 30, 2012)

So do you mean the non-enthusiasts will be fooled by the pixels in to paying 500 USD. Maybe scuba divers use it up to 5m depth or the next north pole expedition will use it in harsh conditions. We never know Sony may be right.

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wetsleet
By wetsleet (Jan 30, 2012)

I would dearly love DPR to do comparative IQ review of todays compacts against something like the Nikon D70 - hailed in its day. I'd love to know how far the goal post have moved, and how much rubbish is talked in terms of IQ and sensor size.

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Midnighter
By Midnighter (Jan 30, 2012)

18MP? Ahhh...wot? Blink...blink... pinch me anyone?
Must see results from this.

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snake_b
By snake_b (Jan 30, 2012)

Not that I really like the idea of small-sensor cams with horrifically high numbers of MP, but why is having a micro SD slot "spoiling" things? There are plenty of good class ten cards out there now.

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Reg Natarajan
By Reg Natarajan (Jan 30, 2012)

Many of us have a little cash and a lot of kit tied up in SD. Micro SD rocks the boat unnecessarily.

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Philip Carsendonk
By Philip Carsendonk (Jan 30, 2012)

Isn't that about the appearance of the camera? Using smaller cards means the card-door is less obtrusive.

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