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Metabones and Conurus create Canon EF to Sony E-mount 'smart adapter'

By dpreview staff on Jan 17, 2012 at 17:59 GMT

Canadian lens interface experts Conurus and Sino-Japanese adapter maker Metabones have created an electronic 'Smart adapter' for using Canon EF lenses on the Sony NEX's E-mount. The adapter is manual focus-only but allows control of aperture and the use of the image stabilization on Canon IS lenses. Full lens information, including focal length, aperture and lens IS is reported back to the camera for EXIF, allowing the use of all P,A,S and M modes. The adapter also features a 'Wide Open' button that opens the aperture up for fine focusing, with the lens otherwise stopped-down to the chosen aperture, giving accurate depth-of-field in live view. It will cost $399.

Press Release:

Vancouver, Canada, January 18, 2012 - Metabones forms a strategic partnership with Conurus of Vancouver, Canada to jointly develop, manufacture and market a new Smart Adapter(TM) series of products featuring electronic interfacing with the lens.

The partnership is shipping its first fruition of collaboration today, a Smart Adapter that integrates a Canon EF mount lens to a Sony NEX camera body. Electronic aperture is directly controlled by the camera body and all exposure modes are available. Image stabilization (if the Canon EF lens supports it) and EXIF are supported, but there is no autofocus. This new smart adapter is marketed under the Metabones brand name and may be ordered directly from conurus.com or from a Metabones distributor in Japan, the United Kingdom, Hong Kong or China for US$399.

Metabones is known for mechanical design that is already significantly ahead of the competition, as can be seen with the Contax G lens adapters for Micro 4/3 and Sony NEX with ultra-wide focusing rings and smooth manual focus action, and the ALPA lens to Leica M adapter with rangefinder coupling. Now, incorporating leading-edge electronic technology from Canada brings forth a new breed of adapters that not only truly integrates the lens with the camera body but offers the best workmanship, accuracy and reliability as well.

Comments

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Preternatural Stuff
By Preternatural Stuff (Aug 1, 2012)

Funny how the people who have neither tried their hands on this adapter nor the EOS-M cry out the death of the EOS-M.

Funny how they neglect to mention that it costs HALF the price of an EOS-M.

Funny how they also neglect to mention that third party products almost always never guarantee 100% compatibility nor functionality (as illustrated by the product recall).

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SergeSmArt I
By SergeSmArt I (Mar 5, 2012)

I've got this adapter for my "Sony FS-100 Movie Camera" :) and Canon-mount lenses.. and it's work PERFECT !! I test it with my Canon 16-35L, 24-70L, Sigma 50mm/F1.4 and Canon 70-200mm/F2.8 L IS lens !!
Thanks Conurus - now I'm able to change the aperture and have Image Stabilization with it .. wich is fantastic to have in filming on Sony FS-100!!!
I just place my little review about it on DVX-USER:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?272631-Re-World-s-First-Electronic-EF-to-NEX-Adapter!/page7 .. there you can see how I did SUPPORT to RODs for it...

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SandyS
By SandyS (Feb 4, 2012)

I ordered one of these adapters for my Sony NEX-5n, since I have a large stable of very nice Canon glass. They shipped the adapter promptly, then immediately sent an email that they had found that the adapter was incompatible with the NEX-5n and NEX-7. They recommended I refuse the adapter when delivered, which I did. They informed me when they had received the returned adapter, they informed me when they shipped the new one, and the adapter arrived today. It does not work! Will not detect the aperture of my canon lenses, will not move the diaphragm, will not power the IS on IS-equipped lenses and the "wide-open" button does not open the diaphragm (It has a "wide-open" button rather than a "Depth of field" button). I've written to Metabones to find out what they want me to do.

During one of my tests today, the adapter actually worked for about 30 seconds and it was wonderful. Can't figure what was different. Checked contacts, removed and reinstalled lenses/adapter. No go.

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douglassalteri
By douglassalteri (Jan 31, 2012)

seems like a great idea, I wonder how you would mount this or the camera onto a tripod? A huge strain on the lens mount of the camera, with larger lenses at both ends of the scale, even the 24-70mm Canon is very heavy.
I have also heard that the nex-5 is better for wide angles that the nex-7 ???

Dougie

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SandyS
By SandyS (Feb 4, 2012)

There is a tripod screw mount built into the adapter.

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Jan 26, 2012)

n/t
question answered

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Calvin Chann
By Calvin Chann (Jan 24, 2012)

Update: Now recalled due to imcompatability issue with NEX-7 and NEX-5n

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sesopenko
By sesopenko (Jan 27, 2012)

Where'd you hear that?

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Montaigne
By Montaigne (Jan 20, 2012)

Give me a Nikon-F mount and AF and I will gladly pay double.

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J Dog
By J Dog (Jan 20, 2012)

This is a great product, with a caveat.
1. Most likely, If you are a videographer who has been shooting with a 5D and want to step up to a FS100, you now have an upgrade path, and AF really isn't needed.

2. If you have Cannon lenses and own a NEX body, this could allow you to use your nex as a backup, think, macro or landscape photography.

Personally, I fall into number 2, I am going to have to wait and see. $399 is high for my blood, but if I were in catagory 1 above, I would be first in line.

This is not for people shooting sports, action or kids. The MF with peaking is very good, but still not pro level.

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sttp
By sttp (Jan 26, 2012)

Agree.

I've got a NEX for stills and I've been getting into film with Canon DSLRs. I'm considering a 5D for video work and full-frame stills. This makes it attractive for me to share my Canon glass across both cameras and since I've been practising my focus pulling doing video, I don't see AF as a necessity anymore (perhaps this is how Leica users feel)...

So consider that I invest in a couple of L lenses, 399 suddenly seems less steep to not have to buy dedicated E-mount of the same calibre..

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Picturenaut
By Picturenaut (Jan 19, 2012)

Cool this is the first 80 % useful adapter for EOS-NEX combo. But $399 is crazy for a non-AF thing! I'd seriously think about a Sony NEX (or so) as a less bulky and less noisy backup body for my Canon DSLRs. But the price for a NEX + this less than 100 % performing adapter is a bit over the top.

Canon should take such new products as a warning signal. I think a growing number of Canon users is waiting for a mirrorless system body with an APS sensor for their lenses. It would be no risk for Canon to make a move. Sticking only to DSLR market is a much higher longterm risk IMHO. The history of some formerly leading German camera manufactors teaches that ingoring new trents can kick you out of the mass market at least...

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TomUW
By TomUW (Jan 20, 2012)

I'm one of that growing number. Now that I use my DSLRs as mainstream video cameras also, the trade-offs Canon is making in it's designs are not optimal for me.

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Michael B 66
By Michael B 66 (Jan 21, 2012)

Picturenaut, you got the point. I am one of those waiting for a compact mirrorless camera from Canon with EF-XS bayonet (my naming) and a EF(-S)2EF-XS adaptor + a pancake lens of round about 40mm (in 35mm equiv) f/2.0 or f/2.8 with ultimate quality (flare resistance, contrast, etc.).

New bayonet for compactness and more freedom for lens designers.

A with-camera-delivered adaptor to use the whole bunch of lenses.

My use for that camera: Compact always available cam + "video back" for a focal range (35mm equiv) of 16 to 640 mm in one system.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 23, 2012)

@ Michael B 66: the camera and matching lenses you are describing that you are waiting for already exists, and it exists in various iteration. It's just it is not made by Canon, but rather by its many more successful and "with it" competitors.

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probert500
By probert500 (Jan 25, 2012)

I'm not sure that it's so much a matter of the mirror or not, as much as it is that the sony sensors seem so much better than the canon's.

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cactus0912
By cactus0912 (Oct 9, 2012)

Agree with you 100%. I picked up the NEX 7 when it first became available and, along with the Zeiss 24 mm, it has become my go to camera especially when traveling. Like others, I have a lot invested in DSLR bodies and lenses and have been reluctant to admit that new technology may be making my investment in all that L glass obsolete. Now that Zeiss has announced 3 additional lenses that will be available in 2013 I'm becoming more convinced that the Sony I bought for a backup will become my primary. Maybe it's time to unload all that heavy metal and beat the rush!

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mediokre
By mediokre (Jan 19, 2012)

it'd be a bigger blow to the 300C if somehow they managed to create a version of this adapter with an ND filter wheel. that'd be so great.

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Irakly Shanidze
By Irakly Shanidze (Jan 19, 2012)

This is certainly a great achievement... I, however, would appreciate an adaptor that would let me use my Contax 645AF lenses on Leica S2 much, much more. Like, in monetary terms, 150% more.

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Joseph S Wisniewski
By Joseph S Wisniewski (Jan 19, 2012)

It would be more like 150 times, not 150%, Irakly. You have to spread the R&D over how many units you think you'll sell. I'm pretty sure that of the three or four S2 shooters, you'd be the only one who wants that particular adapter.

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audijam
By audijam (Jan 19, 2012)

You might as well swtich to S2 in this case. I think Josephe said it all. Contax 645 is awesome but it is....a piece of great Contax history now.

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Bob Meyer
By Bob Meyer (Jan 19, 2012)

I would have to own a LOT of Canon glass, and really, really want to use a NEX, to spend $400 on this thing.

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ET2
By ET2 (Jan 19, 2012)

Yes, and there are a lot of people who own a lot of Canon lenses and use Canon DSLRs for video (no AF anyway).

The adapter is a blow to the newly released Canon C300 ($15,999). These people can get FS100 instead ($4,999).

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 19, 2012)

"The adapter is a blow to the newly released Canon C300"

???

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TomUW
By TomUW (Jan 20, 2012)

Your point about the FS100 is a good one.

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kelpdiver
By kelpdiver (Jan 18, 2012)

A Nex5/7 + this adapter isn't much smaller than a T2i/T3i, yet gives up autofocus. What sort of message are you sending to Canon?

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Hynee
By Hynee (Jan 18, 2012)

That Focus Peaking is the way of the future, and Canon's future lies in 3rd party lenses for Sony bodies?

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mediokre
By mediokre (Jan 19, 2012)

flexibility. you can't use sony lenses no the canon.

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probert500
By probert500 (Jan 25, 2012)

Well, next to the sony canon is very adaptable. I use om zuikos, nikkor, and takumars on the canon.

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Michael Uschold
By Michael Uschold (Jan 18, 2012)

Good. Maybe if droves of Canon-lovers say to heck with the G1 X and buy a NEX camera, Canon will get the message that it pays to give the customers what they want, not to protect what it wants (i.e. a healthy DSLR market). I'm very tempted to do just that. It was my lenses holding me back. Pity about the AF.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 19, 2012)

CANON G1 X is a Canon body + a Canon lens.

NEX plus EF-mount lens is a Sony body + a Canon lens.

I am not sure what this crazily priced adapter will do for anyone. Surely, the light-weight, small Sony NEX body was not designed to carry those hefty full-frame Canon lenses.

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pete zeugma
By pete zeugma (Jan 19, 2012)

do you hold your les by the camera body then? kinda a silly statement?

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probert500
By probert500 (Jan 25, 2012)

If you had - say a canon 10 - 22 this would be sorely tempting. I do wonder if the difference in sensor size would affect the canon ex lenses.

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love_them_all
By love_them_all (Jan 18, 2012)

If they could make AF work I would pay full retail to buy one!

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jan 20, 2012)

Even if it was so slow it is unusable, because if they do that is exactly what you can expect. Ever wonder why the Canon LV AF is so slow?

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ET2
By ET2 (Jan 18, 2012)

Canon C300 $15,999 (No AF anyway with Canon lenses).
Sony FS100 (E-mount) $4,999

Every Canon ef lens made to work with C300 would work identically on FS100 too (remember there is no AF anyway on C300).

The adapter makes C300 way overpriced, no?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

CANON EOS C300 stripped-down camera body is priced at $16,000.

Way, way, way overpriced for what it is, really. They may sell some at $5,000, but even then, they would be facing very stiff competition from the under $5,000 priced Sony NEX-FS100 and Panasonic AG-AF100.

What's WRONG with Canon lately?

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mediokre
By mediokre (Jan 19, 2012)

I had the FS100 and not having ND filters truly made it unusable for me (I was shooting outdoors documentary stuff). I don't think I can articulate in $ the difference between usable and unusable. That plus the more robust codec.

That said, I don't have $15999. So I have the even cheaper AF100.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jan 20, 2012)

You couldn't just put an ND at the front of the lens rather than at the back?

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mediokre
By mediokre (Jan 21, 2012)

you could, but it's so slow and cumbersome. fingerprints all over the filters. and sometimes you have to go in and out of doors repeatedly and screwing filters on and off is simply impossible, not even impractical.

again, i am talking about documentary shooting. just myself and the subjects.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 23, 2012)

Built-in ND filers can be a nightmare. I had a camera that had it and it got stuck half-way into the frameline, and the camera could not be repaired for some reason.

Much better to have the variable ND or circular polarizer filter on the FRONT of the lens, safely outside of the camera body.

Filters permanently installed INSIDE the camera body -- a really old mechanical concept that can backfire on you in a jiffy.

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mzillch
By mzillch (Jan 18, 2012)

"Always use the right tool for the right job." Yeah, and therefore carry 9 different cameras around your neck. Puh-leez. I guess this pervasive and snobbish attitude consuls some people about their large collection of different camera (that almost NEVER leave the house so they are utterly useless when they actually need one in the field). If adapters mean fewer cameras then I say I'm all for them (although the price of this one seems high).

I had to listen to this stupid mantra when AF was introduced, until it became fairly standard. Same with digital...same with IS...same with still/HD video all in ones. Luckily the industry ignores these people and ultimately makes the cameras the people clamor for: AF, digital, IS, HD video included. THANKS JAPAN!

[I'll be ignoring the juvenile and belittling put downs regarding my "unsophisticated and low image quality standards".]

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dara2
By dara2 (Jan 20, 2012)

you forgot to mention LiveView in the list :)

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SteB
By SteB (Jan 18, 2012)

Whilst I would hope to see the price of this type of adaptor come down I'm not sure why some are pooring so much scorn over it, because if you don't want it, don't buy it. After all it's only another choice for photographers so how can it be bad? What is there to criticise? The criticisms don't make much sense. The only thing that counts is whether they work and support as many lenses as possible. The more of this type of adapter there are, the cheaper they will be.

I'm not sure why a company like Sigma doesn't produce them, because after all very few companies can have more experience with back engineering mounts. All I would suggest is making them so they can have firmware updates to get around changes to interfaces.

My only regret is that there's not a similar one for m4/3. I for one could see a real use for my MP-E 65mm, peaking and an EVF. OVFs get awfully dark at high magnification. Not sure if the peaking would work, but if it did, it would be a dream for composition.

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jpr2
By jpr2 (Jan 18, 2012)

Steven, my sentiments exactly - HOWEVER, there are two problems pertaining to mpe65 to be used on NEX through this adapter:
- Conurus uses a reversed-button scheme: it opens aperture fully when depressed - not my idea of focusing mpe65 to try it with the lens set to anything else but f/2.8; and it is at a pretty awkward position to be operated by the right hand!!!
- flash use = Sony mount will accept neither of our macro speedlites :( !!

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (Jan 18, 2012)

Even when using this adapter?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Alpha-FA-HS1AM-Adaptor-Black/dp/B001G0MP9W

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SteB
By SteB (Jan 18, 2012)

To tell the truth I'd forgotten about the operation of this adapter jpr, although I'd read about it before. Yes the silly hotshoe thing is a problem. It's even worse on anything but the NEX-7, because they don't even have a hotshoe. I want to do some video as well, which is why I'm looking at EVF options. These adaptors are expensive but they're cheaper than getting a whole new set of lenses. What I'm not sure about yet is whether EVFs will gain up enough or if it will be too noisy to see anything. Although I'm looking to make a combined LED flash combination so that bit might not be so much of a problem.

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jpr2
By jpr2 (Jan 19, 2012)

@TrojMacReady - alas, the adapter you've linked:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Alpha-FA-HS1AM-Adaptor-Black/dp/B001G0MP9W
is of a dumb type = the ETTL or ETTL2 of Canon SpeedLites will be disabled; sure it is better than nothing; but mine EX24 would be about useless or at least severely limited (of course if used for jewelery or other still macros we can shoot with a wholly manual exposures, but I'm into running, skittish critters), and mpe65 relies on some sort of flash very much;

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pete zeugma
By pete zeugma (Jan 19, 2012)

the price is nothing... lets face it, the price is correct for the volume of production it is likely to have. personally this is perfect for use with a nex7+mpe65 for my macro work, plus also would probably get me out more with my sigma 300-800mm

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jpr2
By jpr2 (Jan 19, 2012)

@SteB - I did some research and thinking over the possible advantages of reversing the function of the DOF button:
- in the context of the "usual" still shooting with Canon's bodies I see almost none; perhaps to allow for a more streamlined use of AF lenses in the MF-only mode, so the actual aperture is engaged, but both hands are free for other tasks?
- similarly, I suppose the same might be true in the context of focus peaking operation on NEX'es, although I'd prefer to focus wide open, and eventually press the button only after to check areas in/out of focus at the set f-stop;
- as already said, the current implementation is would be a huge handicap for any type of dynamic macro action shooting; most severely affecting during use of lenses like the mpe65;
- so perhaps this reversal is aimed at video shooters???

any ideas?

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 18, 2012)

Lens adapters are very handy for people who want to use multi-brand or legacy lenses on their cameras. However, the $400 price is also an indicator that what one pays for a camera body ends up being a small quotient of the overall investment. This pauper, therefore, sees attractions in devices like the GX1 or the Fuji fixed-lens ASP sensor cameras. If Sony offered a NEX with a single, collapsing lens, that might make it a hit with my class of po' trash, which likes stuff that fits in coverall cargo pockets.

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Woodlink
By Woodlink (Jan 18, 2012)

For sports, there is not way on earth this Sony with its E mount 200mm produces images on par with a 7D with some nice 200mm L glass.

Ive owned both, and gave up on the Sony.

The prospect of adding Canon glass to the 5N is intruiging, but not at the expense of autofocus and 400 bucks.

Sports and birdshooters would best stay clear of this adapter IMHO.

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Jogger
By Jogger (Jan 18, 2012)

THe fact that you even thought the NEX could compete with your 7D for sports, says a lot as well.

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AV Janus
By AV Janus (Jan 18, 2012)

Wow, its called smart and got no AF...
They must be real smart cause we just don't get it... :-/

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jan 20, 2012)

You need AF? Well then this is not for you look at other options.

You don't get it? Well that is because you are narrow minded and only think about life from your own point of view.

Next time maybe don't bother to post your little narrow minded views eh?

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garyknrd
By garyknrd (Jan 18, 2012)

Is the nex that much better than the Canon body's. For that much you can almost buy a T3i I think. I am a little puzzled.

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Dan Tong
By Dan Tong (Jan 19, 2012)

The video is really good, with zooming, exposure control etc. according to many reviews, and the video quality (Nex 5, 5n, 7) beats just about every other camera.

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probert500
By probert500 (Jan 25, 2012)

The sony sensors really are much better than the canon - they really are.

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Greg Gebhardt
By Greg Gebhardt (Jan 18, 2012)

The "good" stuff is not cheap! You people need to stick with you $19.95 adapters, you will never know any difference! LOL!~

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AV Janus
By AV Janus (Jan 18, 2012)

And you people need to keep thinking that expensive means its special and that you and your abilities deserve it.
You know the feeling I am talking about... ;-)

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

No lens mount adapter should cost more than $150 IMO, and frankly, having them in the $20 to $100 price range makes the most sense overall.

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Sevventh
By Sevventh (Jan 18, 2012)

You are correct that we will not know any difference, because none exists. If the adapter is within flange distance spec, is square to sensor, and there is no phase detection AF to deal with then I don't see the difference between a "cheap" and expensive adapter except for a very inexpensive microcontroller part.

Conurus knows they won't sell this in volume so they need to recoup their costs somehow before their microcontroller is reverse engineered or decompiled, it is only a matter of time now.

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Blake Willis
By Blake Willis (Jan 18, 2012)

Given the lack of AF & the price it's fairly clear that this is targeted primarily at video professionals.

If Conurus & Metabones went to the trouble of building this, you can bet that there was enough demand to make it worth their while. Even at $400. If demand was validated at that price then there are certainly a lot of professionals out there that want to use EF-mount glass on Sony cameras. Mostly on their dedicated video cameras I'd imagine...

Don't forget that this means that the entire highly-coveted Zeiss ZE lineup can now be used on Sony cameras without any loss of functionality whatsoever (they're MF lenses anyway).

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

Why would anyone want to use Canon lenses on Sony cameras? They don't even fit without pricey adapters and all sorts of compromises.
Carl Zeiss makes Sony Alpha mount lenses already, so why would anyone need to buy a Canon EF-mount Carl Zeiss optic to put on a Sony camera therefore?

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Documensony
By Documensony (Jan 19, 2012)

ZE/ZF manual lenses from Zeiss (manufactured by Cosina) are not available for Sony A-mount.
Zeiss developed another line of AF-lenses - manufactured by Sony and with more zooms amongst them - for Sony Alpha.
Two different things.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 23, 2012)

@ Documensony:

Here are the CARL ZEISS lenses with the Sony Alpha mount. Depending on whether the Zeiss lens has Canon, Nikon, or Sony Alpha mount, the 2-letter model designations differ.

http://lenses.zeiss.com/photo/en_DE/home.html
http://lenses.zeiss.com/photo/en_DE/products/alpha/planart1485za.html

If you need a COSINA or SONY branded lens, make sure that is what the inscription says on the lens itself. If you want a CARL ZEISS lens, however, you need to make sure it says "CARL ZEISS" on the lens. Or at least "ZEISS." :-)

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Robin Sagar
By Robin Sagar (Jan 18, 2012)

Two weeks ago in Goa, I met an Israili Bird Photographer at Natures Nest. He was uning a Sony Video camera with a Singma 50-500mm Lenes. The lens had a NiKon mount and an adaptor to the Sony NEX format.

I guess that the sony NEX format is popular with adaptor makers.

Now is there an adaptor for Sony Alpha format to Sony Nex?

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cluening
By cluening (Jan 18, 2012)

There is a manual adaptor with aperture control and also one with full AF by using a SLT mirror design.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

"There is a manual adaptor with aperture control and also one with full AF by using a SLT mirror design."

Exactly right, if you go from Sony Alpha mount lens to an NEX E-mount camera with one of the Sony adapters, you will not even lose your AF ability.

Which makes this $400 Canon-to-Sony adapter a dubious value indeed. Why spend $400 just to lose autofocus, right?

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Documensony
By Documensony (Jan 19, 2012)

The Sony full-AF adapter won't help you much if you sit with a pile of Canon lenses.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jan 20, 2012)

"Which makes this $400 Canon-to-Sony adapter a dubious value indeed. Why spend $400 just to lose autofocus, right?"

First of all I believe they mentioned AF ability with a FW update. Secondly it is the lenses that aren't really up to AF on a NEX body due to the CDAF (this is not to start a conversation about Canon AF abilities - these lenses are ALL designed for PDAF). The Sony LA-EA1 had AF through a FW update shortly after launch - it will AF with SAM and SSM lenses (essentially lenses with motor in the lens) but it take 3-7 SECONDS to get focus on a stationary object. My guess, this is why there is no AF - there is no point. Sony have released the LA-EA2 which has PDAF, mirror and screw drive motor (for non SAM and SSM lenses).

The Sony's cost something like $199 (LA-EA1) and $399 (LA-EA2). They have had to do no reverse engineering, no licensing and can make something like that with much less R&D. Sell enough of them however and this cost will come right down.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 23, 2012)

@ Documensony: Just how bad the CANON branded cameras have gotta be these days when a whole lot of folks out there owning a whole lot of Canon lenses are trying to jam them onto non-Canon cameras?

@ abortabort: Oh yeah, I guess I get it. Give them $399 right now for this brand new adapter -- and then wait around patiently for a "firmware update" to see if you can make the AF work. Sounds like a plan.

Best to match your camera to your lenses, or vice versa. Save money that way on superfluous accessories, too.

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Jun2
By Jun2 (Jan 18, 2012)

On ebay, buy it now is $399. But you can make a offer. Wonder if they will take my $150 offer. I think that's hell of an offer for an adaptor.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

Dumbest thing I ever saw. Maybe at $39.99 it would make slightly more sense?

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dodgebaena
By dodgebaena (Jan 18, 2012)

If one already has $20k worth of L lenses (a 70-200f2.8IS alone is almost $3K), $400 for the opportunity to use these magnificent glass on a NEX is a cheap price to pay.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

@ dodgebaena: Are you really going to use $20,000 worth of lenses on a $600 camera? Why? People usually do not buy inexpensive and very small camera bodies just so they can put those colossal, heavy DSLR lenses on it. You cannot even hand-held the slim-bodied NEX camera with one of those heavy glasses front of it.

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dodgebaena
By dodgebaena (Jan 19, 2012)

why not? maybe not all 20k worth. But if I was shooting video on a VG20 and I have an 85mm f1.2 (I wish) and I would like to use this lens, then this adaptor is worth it.
There are people who get paid enough for this to be worth it. A Leica M9 is not for everyone but some people buy it. I've bought lenses for 1 job since the job paid for the lens. And if an accessory makes a job much easier to do, and enjoyable, and therefore will result in a better product resulting in repeat business, why not? There's no such thing as a dumb piece of equipment; just dumb application of such equipment.

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Documensony
By Documensony (Jan 19, 2012)

@Dodgebana: The NEX mount is already used on quite a few cameras - from $500 pocketcams to $1000 enthusiast level and then again on $2000 enthusiast level videocams and $5000 pro video cams.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 23, 2012)

@ Documensony: The Sony NEX E-mount mount is meant to be used in Sony's cheaper, consumer oriented cameras. Just look at the number and specifications of matching Sony NEX lenses, and you 'll see.

Yes, there are some Sony video camcorders that also have E-mounts on them, that is why a lot of people stay away from those few cameras.

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mbrobich
By mbrobich (Jan 18, 2012)

Maybe it's so expensive cause they have to give Sony and Canon $100 each to start with ? Ridiculous.......

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Neeraj123
By Neeraj123 (Jan 18, 2012)

test ...

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ezradja
By ezradja (Jan 18, 2012)

Pefect for NEX VG-20 and FS100!

4 upvotes
NorthwestF
By NorthwestF (Jan 18, 2012)

This would be real nice for video people who use Canon DSLRs for video. The AF doesn't work anyway on Canon in video mode. Now they can use all their Canon lenses on Nex bodies, and even more significantly on E-mount camcorders (VG20, FS100, etc).

7 upvotes
WuSoBig
By WuSoBig (Jan 18, 2012)

Now Conurus should go back to there roots... and make another E- mount adapter for " CONTAX N" mount lens... It would be too costly to convert Contax N mount to EF mount and than buy another adapter for E-mount...it would be pointless... Plus, all of Contax N Zeiss lens produce better quality pictures than the L lens collections,hands down... Hopefully Conurus can make this dream happen, it would please alot of professional photographers who still uses Contax N systems..
Thank You for reading...

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Dedi Kurniawan
By Dedi Kurniawan (Jan 18, 2012)

Nice...!

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Jogger
By Jogger (Jan 18, 2012)

Sony released the emount protocols to anyone who wanted them; this allows companies like Metabones to make adapters like this.

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caterpillar
By caterpillar (Jan 18, 2012)

This is good news! My question is - is this a pure EF mounting only, or does it allow me to use also ef-s lenses? It would be a great boon if it did. There are good lenses in the ef-s family like the 17-55 f2.8 and the 10-22. True native aps-c lenses. It would be a shame if we can't mount it there.

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Mike Wee
By Mike Wee (Jan 18, 2012)

the ebay entry claims that it works with EF-S lenses. Take it for what it is, it's strange that the adapter is then not branded as EF/EFS to NEX...

http://tinyurl.com/73hfucx

"This adapter can fit all most EF/EF-s/ZE Lens, With electric contact point, let us control Full Range Aperture (1/3 step up/down) on camera when use A mode & M mode."

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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abortabort
By abortabort (Jan 20, 2012)

Isn't EF-S just the designation of crop sensor specific lenses with the same mount? I'm not personally 100% so it is a genuine question - the mount and connections are the same EF-S is simply a designation to say 'these don't work on full frame'?

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IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Jan 18, 2012)

Again, this adapter is not meant for people trying to maximize a small budget. It's meant for people who can afford to spend $400 on an adapter and want to use great Canon lenses but have somemore options available than with a typical cheap adapter.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

I would use a SONY lens of a Sony NEX camera, first and foremost. Next, a Nikkor or some other F-mount lens. And only then a Canon EF. This adapter makes precious little sense at just about any price -- let alone at a whopping $400.

How much did Canon pay to "Metabones" and "Conorus" to make this thing in the first place?

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Jun2
By Jun2 (Jan 18, 2012)

Nikon to E-mount adaptor is only $99. But I don't have Nikkor.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

Right U R, Jun2. $99 sounds a whole lot better than $399, and last I heard, Nikkor lenses hold up pretty darn well against Canon lenses, anyhow.

Another better option is to use Sony Alpha mount to Sony NEX mount adapter and keep the AF function intact.

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Billy SP
By Billy SP (Jan 19, 2012)

Nex lens on a Nex camera, sure...Unless you happen to have a well assorted collection of Canon glass! Yes, I am happy.

1 upvote
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 23, 2012)

@ Billy SP: Wow, just how bad have the new Canon cameras gotta be if these many folks here who own Canon lenses are looking to put them on cameras other than a Canon camera?

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lasjashk
By lasjashk (Jan 18, 2012)

Yes! Sure! Dream come true...... Electric NEX Adapter for Canon EF Lens....We can make sure that it's 1st on the world!
Welcome to visit our website or buy on my ebay store.....
http://stores.ebay.com/metabones-adapter-store?_rdc=1
Thank you!
Lasjashk

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Joele
By Joele (Jan 18, 2012)

wow so you can put even bigger lenses than the current Sony NEX lenses on the tiny little bodies... makes so much sense, well not to me but must to someone..

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William Koehler
By William Koehler (Jan 18, 2012)

So I guess you've never heard of the NEX-VG20 or NEX-FS100. They aren't so tiny. Buyers of the latter especially will be interested in this as pro shooters are very likely to have Canon lenses or access to them.

2 upvotes
Sosua
By Sosua (Jan 18, 2012)

Can't think of too many lenses that would make sense (in keeping with the size), perhaps the 15-85 as a walk around.

given the price, it may only appeal to those wanting to use higher end lenses on their NEX for some reason - maybe a TSE on a NEX 7 as Chez says.

One interesting thing about the adapter is though... it seems quite thin for an SLR adapter?

What is the EF flange distance?

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stanic042
By stanic042 (Jan 18, 2012)

44 mm

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Chez Wimpy
By Chez Wimpy (Jan 18, 2012)

24MP on the Nex7, or the "legendary" 16MP sensor on the Nex5n. For landscape work from a tripod (with TSE lenses), pushing and pulling in post... maybe a dream come true.

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SteB
By SteB (Jan 18, 2012)

I'm confused by the wording on the website it says "Compatibility Supported Not supported" and lists lenses. Does this mean the lenses that follow are supported or not supported? Self-evidently it's contradictory.

Specifically does it support independent EF mount lenses like Sigma?

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cangi
By cangi (Jan 18, 2012)

the ef mount should be exactly the same for any third party lens or they would not work on the camera itself. i saw what you are talking about on conurus' site but my understanding is that this adapter will work with ef or ef-s lenses except for auto focus.

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danaceb
By danaceb (Jan 17, 2012)

Sorry, not interested for $400.

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (Jan 17, 2012)

great news, I will definitely buy it for $199, maybe even $249, but not for $399, no way.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

If you buy a pair of already pricey Canon lenses, Canon should give away this thing for free maybe.

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fatdeeman
By fatdeeman (Jan 17, 2012)

It's just too expensive to be worth bothering with, it's an impressive feat but if you have the lenses you no doubt have the Canon body too and while I can see the appeal of taking out a Canon lens and the Sony body if size and weight was an issue I would never want to badly enough to pay this much and if I did I would definitely want autofocus even if it was slow like the the contrast detect you get on a Canon body!

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

That was ONE sentence??

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tomtom50
By tomtom50 (Jan 17, 2012)

The Canon EF mount is over 20 years old, so the patents have expired. Sony could produce a similar Canon EF 'LAC-EA2' adapter with the translucent mirror and full PDAF.

So why doesn't Sony do it?

The only reasons I can think of is that Sony feels it violates some business norm, or that Canon and Sony have enough IP cross-licensing that Sony cannot irritate Canon so deeply.

Unlike Sony, Conurus probably could not do a translucent mirror adapter without a huge R&D budget and might face issues with Sony patents.

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fatdeeman
By fatdeeman (Jan 17, 2012)

Or maybe Sony don't want people buying Canon SLR lenses to use on their NEX when they could be buying Sony SLR lenses?

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (Jan 17, 2012)

Or Sony fears that if it was to make the EF mount adapter, Canon would turn around and do the same with the Minolta A mount which is the same as the alpha mount...Neither will happen though. ;)

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Dan Tong
By Dan Tong (Jan 17, 2012)

Great news, and hopefully the price will come down some in the future.

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El Profe
By El Profe (Jan 17, 2012)

Fantastic news... This will allow all the 252 (according to B&H) Canon EOS mount lenses to also fit the NEX body!

Comment edited 19 seconds after posting
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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 18, 2012)

So what? All those DSLR lenses are bad matches for a tiny little thing of a camera.

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wskb
By wskb (Jan 17, 2012)

Pointless. The whole point of having the NEX is so you have a small system. Chucking a big Canon lens and an adapter on it and you end up with something the size of a normal DSLR anyway. Am I missing something?

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Dan Tong
By Dan Tong (Jan 17, 2012)

Yes, you are missing the idea that other photographers may have additional or broader or different points of view than you do. I can explain in more detail if you need it.

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Extract0r
By Extract0r (Jan 17, 2012)

Might as well spend several hundred more and get a Canon EF-S body, like Rebel T3i.

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wskb
By wskb (Jan 17, 2012)

Don't get me wrong, NEX systems have a lot of merit and by all accounts are excellent in their own right. however I can't help feeling that plonking Canon lenses on the front of them is the worst of both worlds - doesn't use the full ability of the lens (no AF etc, you need a Canon DSLR to have full use of the lenses) and doesn't use the full and convenient ability of the NEX either!

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William Koehler
By William Koehler (Jan 18, 2012)

The point of something like this is a customer just saw the price of Canon's new EOS C300 camera @ $16K, choked, and then bought a Sony NEX-FS100 @ $5K. And with this adapter they can put all their pro Canon glass on it and be up and running.

There is more to NEX than NEX-3/5/7. There's the NEX-VG10/20 and NEX-FS100 as well. And they are also a different price class.

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Michael B 66
By Michael B 66 (Jan 18, 2012)

Think about the following scenario of a photographers need:

(1) Using ONE full line of lenses for photography and video
(2) Some older EOS 40D bodies are available-no will to exchange
(3) Wanting video capabilities plus a compact APS-C cam.

Example 1: G1X for compact, video with lower range Canon DSLR means 800 + 600 $/EUR
=> 1400 $/EUR

Example 2: Nex 5N + adaptor + pancake lens (original) meaning 500 + 400 + 150 $/EUR plus the flexibility to use eg. a EF-S 60 for macro work
=> 1050 $/EUR

Example 3 (hypothetical solution): Canon EVIL with EF-XS mount + EF/EF-S Adaptor but: non existent

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dodgebaena
By dodgebaena (Jan 19, 2012)

The point is not going out and buying Canon lenses to mount on NEX because Canon glass is intrinsically superior to Sony glass; the POINT IS that if you ALREADY have an investment in Canon glass, this adaptor wil allow you to use these lenses!

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kapanak
By kapanak (Jan 17, 2012)

I would hazard a guess and say that the connector on the adapter is for firmware updates to the adapter.

Would that mean AF is not outside the realm of possibility with future firmwares?

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jpr2
By jpr2 (Jan 18, 2012)

wouldn't it make more sense to make it USB rather than HDMI??

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seta666
By seta666 (Jan 17, 2012)

Also gives the posibility of using canon macro lenses (no AF needed anyway)
EF 100 macro, MP-E 65mm, etc

Comment edited 21 seconds after posting
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birdbrain
By birdbrain (Jan 17, 2012)

Using this to mount my 500 f4 onto a Nex body is going to look quite silly. Not to mention trying to track planes or birds and focusing at the same time should be a breeze :-)

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GordonAtWork
By GordonAtWork (Jan 17, 2012)

Shouldn't be that hard. A little practice and you'll be fine. Actually, I shot some video of Pink Footed Geese a couple of years ago as they took off and landed at Martin Mere using my XL1s video camera and 400mm f5.6L. The effective focal length of that combo is 3000mm.

Just realised the Nex has no optical viewfinder and I suspect the live view LCD will be lacking in it's ability to keep up with the need to focus manually, so I guess you could be on to something.

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El Profe
By El Profe (Jan 17, 2012)

Re: "Just realised the Nex has no optical viewfinder and I suspect the live view LCD will be lacking in it's ability to keep up with the need to focus manually, so I guess you could be on to something"

You can add the opt EVF to the NEX 5n to help focusing with long lenses. Although it cannot be added to the 3 or 5.

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Argote
By Argote (Jan 18, 2012)

Well the NEX 7 already includes it and with the high quality EVF + Focus peaking MF should be significantly easier than on an OVF

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