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SLR Magic announces HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 M-mount lens

By dpreview staff on Jan 1, 2012 at 00:00 GMT

Hong Kong lens maker SLR Magic has announced the HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 lens for the Leica M mount. The lens, which can be easily adapted for Micro Four Thirds or Sony NEX cameras, is designed for low light and shallow depth-of-field videography and available-light photography. The lens features 12 elements in 7 groups and, the company says, is optimized to be shot with the aperture wide open. The lens won't be available until September 2012. In the meantime, the company has also announced a spotting scope that mounts directly to Micro Four Thirds cameras. 

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Press Release:

NEW: THE SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95

Hong Kong, China (January 1, 2012)  - SLR Magic opens up the M mount lens lineup with the new SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 ultra fast normal focal length lens. The world's fastest interchangeable camera lens with an image circle beyond full frame coverage in its focal length, the SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 concept lens will be publicly available for experience testing in September 2012 at Photokina in Cologne, Germany.

The field of view of this new HyperPrime Lens corresponds to a 50mm lens in 35mm format. It is optimized to be shot wide open. This ultra fast normal focal length prime lens opens up many new creative composition opportunities, particularly in the fields of available light, in portrait, and street cinematography. Built with modern non aspherical lens technology, the lens excels at defocusing busy backgrounds at T0.95. A minimum focus distance of 0.70m allows for artistic bokeh effect. A fast maximum aperture of T0.95 makes the SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 ideal for available-light photography.

Our highest priority in the development of all HyperPrime lenses is to fulfill the demands of professional cinematographers and photographers. The design and build of the SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 is solid and reliable.

The SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95, a concept lens, will be available from authorized SLR Magic dealers by the end of September 2012.

SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 specifications       

Lens Type: Fast normal lens with seven Tantalum glass elements to  ensure superior cinematic performance.
Compatible Cameras: • All RangeFinder M mount
• LM mount for cinematography
• E-mount
• Micro Four Thirds cameras
Optical Design: 12 elements in 7 groups
Distance range: 0.70m to ∞, combined scale meter/feet
Aperture: • Manually controlled diaphragm
• 12 aperture blades (circular), Lowest value 16
Bayonet: M-mount (with Rangefinder coupling), E-mount, Micro Four Thirds
Filter Mount: 62mm; filter mount does not rotate
Surface Finish: Black anodized
Dimensions:Length to bayonet mount: • approx. 95mm (approx. 3.74in) without hood
• approx. 110mm (approx. 4.33in) with retractable hood
Largest diameter: approx. 73mm (approx. 2.87in)
Weight approx. 975g (approx. 34.39oz)

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Press Release:

NEW: SLR Magic 12-36x50 ED Spotting Scope and SLR Magic 12-36x50 ED Spotting Scope for mFT

Hong Kong, China (Dec 16, 2011)  - SLR Magic introduces a 12-36x50 ED Spotting Scope  and expands its micro four thirds lineup with SLR Magic 12-36x50 ED Spotting Scope lens for Digiscoping. With this latest addition, the portfolio of lenses for the micro four thirds system is now comprised of six focal lengths.

The SLR Magic 12-36x50 ED Spotting Scope gives you the highest resolution and brightest view possible by three key elements. It features an over sized eye relief, utilized Extra-low Dispersion optics, as well as fully Multi coated glass to help you with spotting the rare bird species. The SLR Magic 12-36x50 ED Spotting Scope also offers stacked, dual-focus controls, so you can make both rapid and fine-tuning adjustments. The scope comes with a soft carrying case and handle. The micro four thirds version comes with the mFT adapter objective.

The field of view of this spotting scope on the micro four thirds camera corresponds to a a 840-2520mm lens in 35mm format. The user friendly design allows you to attach your camera by mounting it like any other camera lens. Everything you need comes with the package and there is no need to have a compatible lens to use it. This is the perfect solution for amateur digiscopers who want to take photos or video of wildlife.

The 12-36x50 ED Spotting Scope will be available from authorized SLR Magic dealers end December 2011.

Volunteers willing to test and review the lens for a website or blog can purchase the scope at a discounted rate. Volunteers should contact SLR Magic.

Comments

Total comments: 108
raykoch73
By raykoch73 (Jan 29, 2012)

Check out Steve Huff's opinion and hands on review... The results thus far are pretty impressive.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 4, 2012)

More fantasy hour press releases out of Hong Kong.

Look at he first picture's inscription. The lens is identified as having a "T0.95 @ T2.0" Oh, really? Come again, please?

I guess if you live long enough, you'll see all types of b.s. Anyhow, SLR MAGIC is great at making splashy press announcements. Less so at actually delivering actual products.

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polarabbit
By polarabbit (Apr 21, 2012)

i think if you live long enough you will actually learn to get facts before making irresponsible comments. i have seen and tried the lens myself and guess what, it does deliver what it has promised and i'm looking forward to receiving the lens.

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rbach44
By rbach44 (Jan 3, 2012)

I too agree theres something a bit fishy about this lens.

A full frame M-mount cine lens? The only full frame camera that can take m lenses is the M9, which is not a video camera. Theres no M to PL mount adapter I'm aware of, so it looks like there really isn't any full frame camera this lens can fit on.

I'm sure people will love it on there smaller sensor cameras for video work, but theres still something a bit odd about this lens. Perhaps I'm missing something here?

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adech
By adech (Jan 3, 2012)

http://photorumors.com/2011/12/31/slr-magic-hyperprime-cine-50mm-t0-95-lens-officially-announced/

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adech
By adech (Jan 3, 2012)

This is common. Do you know that the Voigtlander 25mm f/0.95 is made larger than m43 and many people adapt it on NEX with slight crop? It is common for lens design. Even the Noctilux and many leica R lens are designed larger. It is common for German design but not for Japanese or Chinese design.

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Joseph S Wisniewski
By Joseph S Wisniewski (Jan 4, 2012)

There's a big difference between the size of the circle a lens will illuminate, and the size of the circle where it provides a certain level of sharpness, uniformity of illumination, and freedom from aberrations.

It's virtually impossible to make a normal lens that is "self throttling" to illuminate a circle smaller than about 1.2 its focal length.

So, when adech says "the Voigtlander 25mm f/0.95 is made larger than m43", that's only partially true. It illuminates a circle bigger than the 22mm needed for uFT, apparently, at least the 28mm of an APS-C camera, but with what quality?

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adech
By adech (Jan 4, 2012)

Search for samples in NEX forum. It is quite good. C mount cine lenses are also commonly used for m43 as well and it does not cover the full circle with sharpnes. Some c mounts run for a grand at current market value such as the angenieux an schnider 25mm f0.95

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pendigital
By pendigital (Jan 3, 2012)

I would warn anyone against buying from SLR Magic. I've been going through a customer service nightmare with them for months now over a defective lens they sent me. Any lens they make is a rebrand but I was led to believe they atleast had good customer service. Now I am going to have to go through the hassle of trying to get my money back from them. Check their return/defective policies very carefully. I wish I had.

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pomoville
By pomoville (Jan 3, 2012)

Their recent lenses aren't rebranded, they make them themselves.

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pendigital
By pendigital (Jan 3, 2012)

Last time I checked they had no manafacturing cabability. Everything was made for them by companies like Fujian and Kowa. You could just as easily start your own brand. Most of these manafacturers will brand a lens with anything you like. You want to make a fast "pomoville" brand lens? As long as you can meet the minimum quantity then it's no problem. The only thing that SLR Magic does is market and overcharge. That wouldn't be such an issue if the customer service wasn't so bad for defective items.

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adech
By adech (Jan 3, 2012)

Yes, and Hoya get Pentax to make their cameras. Carl Zeiss and Voigtlander have no capability too and get Cosina to do the job. And guess what, Apple gets Foxconn to make their iPhones as they cannot get it done in the US. How funny of a statement. Did you know Nikon and Ricoh need to pay Sony to make their sensors and Leica pays Kodak to make their CCD? I am sure they meet the minimum too and they can source their sensors. Next thing Leica does is market the camera. I doubt the Leica D-lux are made by Leica and are made by Panasonic instead. And the Panna Leica is really made by Leica? Dream on

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pendigital
By pendigital (Jan 3, 2012)

Thanks adech for agreeing with me. Funny how so many are so ignorant of how things are done. Atleast with Pentax, Voigtlander, or Nikon you get decent customer service if you get a faulty product.

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adech
By adech (Jan 3, 2012)

Its funny you did not mention Leica cause I sent in a lens to calibrate 3 times and it is still not right and at the end I just sold the lens to a camera repair store to end the sorrow. i have another Leica lens that the focus ring came off the lens barrel and I do not have time to take in for repair yet.

Canon customer service is the worst. I have a brand new 1D2 and on day two the cuff of the neck strap snapped off and the camera fell with my tele lens. They were not willing to repair the camera or the lens. They said it was damage that is "not usual"so it is not covered by warranty. The store that sold the camera to me was not willing to do exchange during the 7 day period for that damage either.

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peatantics
By peatantics (Jan 4, 2012)

Canon have betrayed your trust. If you were a KING or QUEEN in recent history Canon would have lost it's head. liv+luv=peat.

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Joseph S Wisniewski
By Joseph S Wisniewski (Jan 4, 2012)

"Funny how so many are so ignorant of how things are done."

Indeed. For example, Zeiss isn't one of the companies that "have no capability", as adech asserted. The have the capability to produce large quantities of exquisite scientific lenses, including some of the finest microscope optics I've ever had the pleasure of using, along with some of the world's best cine lenses.

Schott, one of the world's largest, and arguably the very best, high quality optical glass maker, is part of the group of companies under the umbrella of the "Carl Zeiss Foundation", as is an enormous ophthalmic glass operation. They make the machines that test your eyes, then they make your glasses, in the 10s of millions.

They also license the Zeiss name to folks like Sony and Cosina, because brand management is a substantial revenue stream. Hint, the name "Leica" is not owned by a camera company. ;)

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adech
By adech (Jan 4, 2012)

Yes it is sad. I have a tone of Contax Zeiss glass and it is 100% quality. But from the recent sub contract Zeiss glass made by Cosina is that the real deal anymore. As we are talking photography here they are still one of the companies that had to find another factory to make lenses for them.

Yes, soon all the big guys will only be making microscopes. Hope Olympus will keep its camera division after the whole scandal and not be cut down to making quality microscopes.

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amirput90
By amirput90 (Jan 3, 2012)

I would like to suggest Dpreviw to put slr magic lenses in their list of lenses. TQ

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Jan 3, 2012)

Or a Micro Four Thirds group page, where Voigtlander and in the future Sigma and such can be added as well.

Also please separate Micro Four Thirds from old Four Thirds for Olympus. Who would ever want to see both together?

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Entropius
By Entropius (Jan 3, 2012)

Well, there is some comparison, since you can use 4/3 lenses on Micro Four Thirds.

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jtan163
By jtan163 (Jan 2, 2012)

F Mount please.

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Jan 2, 2012)

Physically impossible, the lens is designed for a rangefinder flange distance.

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Ceesprof
By Ceesprof (Jan 2, 2012)

Checking out the samples on Vimeo tells me that this lens has a great potential for the true movie makers. Being freed both from the shackles of "always sharp", the camera men can make true atmospheric pictures. even with the smaller sensor camera's. This is an important tool for the artists among us.

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

The T0.95 is actually sharper than the F0.95 from tests I have conducted.

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Ceesprof
By Ceesprof (Jan 2, 2012)

T an F has nothing to do with resolution. The F number is a mathematical description of the (aperture) opening of the lens. The T number or True Stop takes the losses into account that occur through absorption and the refections of the glass bodies in the optical system. Thus the T stop can be a little bit less than the F number of the same lens. The T stop is the practical number for photographers to set the proper exposure.

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

I know that. I know the T0.95 is sharper than the f/0.95 because I have both.

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Ceesprof
By Ceesprof (Jan 3, 2012)

Even within the same production run, individual lenses can have a different quality. You have tough luck when you buy a lens from the lower end of the (factory) permitted quality range.

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adech
By adech (Jan 3, 2012)

You mean I got sub par quality Noctilux 0.95? This is annoying as I paid 13K for the lens. I have a feeling Leica is selling problem lenses. Another user on leicarumors and i noticed our Noctilux 0.95 has a focus ring that is different from the photo from Leica and B&H website indicating it is possible our focus ring was engraved incorrectly. You can read more here: http://leicarumors.com/2011/12/31/slr-magic-hyperprime-50mm-f0-95-lens-with-leica-m-mount-announced.aspx/

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Ayoh
By Ayoh (Jan 2, 2012)

With no aspherical elements and no highly exotic glasses (which are essentially impossible at a price point of $1k) this lens will have a ridiculous amount spherical abberation. In fact it is clearly visible here http://vimeo.com/34409965 at 1:25 (note this is only HD resolution on a 4/3 sized sensor). The image quality will be extremely poor on a full frame sensor at large apertures. A 'cine lens' is the only spin they can put on it.

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Jan 2, 2012)

They really should have put that camera on a steadycam mount!

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

I have the Noctilux f/0.95 but it has the same problems under the same situation. Do you have a copy that would perform better under those conditions?

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

1:25 shows how well the lens can capture light at f/0.95 and ASA 160 at 1/50s. I am not sure you know what to look out for in the video.

The Day Test by Seb Farges:
http://vimeo.com/34417964

Take a look at 0:50 and 1:35 and how the T0.95 can clearly diffuse the busy background. The Noctilux 0.95 and Nokton f1.1 does not do this as well. The Canon dream lens will just be blurred under such situations.

The Canon 0.95 and Nokton 1.1 has no aspherical elements and it cannot perform the same way as the T0.95. The Noctilux has strong bokeh fringing and blur under those situations too but handles it much better than the Canon and the Nokton 1.1

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Mtsuoka
By Mtsuoka (Jan 2, 2012)

I don't have the Noctilux f/0.95 but judging from the photos taken by Kai of digitalrev I think the Noctilux f/0.95 also suffer from the aberrations you mentioned and in fact the pictures are a bit shittty as well ... humm

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Charles King
By Charles King (Jan 2, 2012)

It's impossible to judge sharpness from a piece of HD video, but the bokeh are clearly *atrocious*, with multiple concentric rings and harsh edges.

Ayoh is absolutely right, there's a *load* of spherical aberration going on there that would look nasty in a print, but is probably acceptable for low-budget movie work, which is where this lens is clearly aimed. I'm sure it'll be an interesting option for those looking to do late-night shoots on the cheap. But on the evidence of that movie any attempt to compare it to a Noctilux is laughable.

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

I do not understand why people look down on HD video. It is way more demanding than photography. Taking videos at 30,50,or 60 frames per sec it is a lot of information with pixels everywhere and is very demanding on a lens. This is why cine lenses cost so much more than photography lenses. Im sure others who take video will agree with me on this. Further, the Noctilux is not optimized for video, not calibrated for T stops, and has a slower aperture so it is not on the same league. The f/0.92 stopped down to 0.95 would be much sharper

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Joseph S Wisniewski
By Joseph S Wisniewski (Jan 4, 2012)

"With no aspherical elements and no highly exotic glasses (which are essentially impossible at a price point of $1k)"

Don't tell my Sigma 30mm f1.4, 8 years ago, for under $500, it set the size record for an exposed (front or rear element of a large assembly of lens elements) aspheric. It also has a mid element SLD glass element.

Sigma has a heavy fluorine doped glass now that has some of the dispersion characteristics of the mineral fluorite, used in several under $1,000 lenses.

I have a rather sexy Voigtlander Aspehrical Ultron 40mm, $400.

Actually, Cosina Voigtlander has some half-dozen aspheric lenses in their lineup that are under $1000, including SLII 20/3.5 Aspherical Color- Skopar, SL II 40/2 Ultron Aspherical, 12/5.6 Aspherical Ultra Wide Heliar, 15/4.5 Aspherical Heliar, 35/1.7 Aspherical, and 50/1.5 Aspherical Nokton. And a couple others over $1000. ;)

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Ayoh
By Ayoh (Jan 4, 2012)

I did not mean aspehrical lens elements are impossible for lenses under $1k. Obviously the market is full of them. I meant exotic, high-refraction index glasses are expensive. High refraction glass is required in ultra large aperture lenses. Flourite and Sigma FLD glass offers low dispersion characteristics (and a low refraction index) which are not as important in normal-focal length prime lenses; look at the sigma 50mm 1.4 optical diagram - there are no extra low dispersion glasses. There is a reason why the Noctilux has a number of n>1.9 ultra exotic glass elements, and which is also one of the reasons it is 10 times the price of the SLR magic lens.

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micksh6
By micksh6 (Jan 2, 2012)

Forget $10K Leica. The real question is will it be better than Voigtlander Nokton 50mm F1.1 that costs $1000 and has been available for a while instead of 9 months later.

And why to announce 9 months ahead? They just conceived a baby? They haven't started delivering 12mm F1.6 lens that was promised in November. So, I doubt they know that the conception was successful.

4/3 Rumors mentioned it might cost $2K (5 times cheaper than Leica) so $1K Voigtlander Nokton (not to be confused with NoktoR) should be the competitor. BTW, the Nokton weights 425 gram instead of 975.

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Irakly Shanidze
By Irakly Shanidze (Jan 2, 2012)

you are right, it is voightlander that has to be concerned, not leica.
as to the weight, do not forget that this lens is almost a 1/2 stop faster. maybe it does not sound like much to you, but believe me, makes all the difference.

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

As a lens collector, I have the f/1 nocti, f/0.95 nocti, f/0.95 canon 7, f/1 canon ef, f/1.1 Nokton, and f/1.2 noct-nikkor. I find that the T0.95 is the brightest, sharpest, and best bokeh. I post about this in leica forum a month ago. It would make more sense if you have used a lens before making comments about a lens.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 4, 2012)

"They haven't started delivering 12mm F1.6 lens that was promised in November. So, I doubt they know that the conception was successful."

I guess making press announcement comes easier for them. Yeah, making announcements is fine... but once in a while, SLR MAGIC might as well actually ship some of these announced products of theirs.

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Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (Jan 1, 2012)

I always love the posters who are in such a hurry to rant, they don't read the entire article

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Jan 1, 2012)

Interesting they're quoting the T stops rather than f stops (guess that comes with the video focus of the lens). If it's capable of T0.95 then the actual f stop must be even less than 0.95

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 1, 2012)

"It's a T0.95 very fast lens, that is an equivalence of f/0.92 !!!"
http://vimeo.com/34409965

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Irakly Shanidze
By Irakly Shanidze (Jan 2, 2012)

interesting lens...
bokeh is a bit strange... i wonder what's those concentric circles inside OOF highlights?

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

The T0.95 is actually so fast that I need to set EV -1/3 on the M9 for proper exposure on A mode.

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Irakly Shanidze
By Irakly Shanidze (Jan 5, 2012)

LOL use manual mode :))))

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snake_b
By snake_b (Jan 1, 2012)

Is this another one of those CCTV lenses?

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 1, 2012)

CCTV lenses are only for small sensors and will vignette on the Leica M , Sony Nex-7 etc.

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

The 50mm f/0.95 can be modified in Japan for use on the M8. the T0.95 is on a whole different league.

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Michael S.
By Michael S. (Jan 1, 2012)

Another (senseless) Video-Lens that hopes to fool enough customers who think they will get an almost (performance like) Leica Noctilux for a small percentage of the costs of the "true" Noctilux.

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 1, 2012)

Iif someone wants a fast 50mm lens for video use that is as sharp or sharper than the Canon 50mm F1.0 L wide open (or any other fast F1.2 50mm ) for a fraction of the price then what is the problem ? This lens looks much sharper than my Pentax 50mm F1.4 @ wide open.
http://vimeo.com/34409965
http://vimeo.com/34417964

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Michael S.
By Michael S. (Jan 1, 2012)

WHY then a 4/3 and Leica M-lens mount?

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 1, 2012)

I have to use an adapter to use my Pentax lenses on my GH2 but with this lens no adapter is needed. They are also showing an E mount for Sony NEX . Since the 50mm F0.95 Leica lens is over $10,000 this would be a good choice for Leica users that are not super rich.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/586190-REG/Leica_11_602_50mm_f_0_95_Noctilux_M_Aspherical.html

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

The T0.95 lens is made for best sharpness, bokeh, and contrast for video. as a f/0.92 lens it is not in the same competition of the Noctilux. The Noctilux is compact but not light. It is not a perfect lens either.

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jubilatu
By jubilatu (Jan 1, 2012)

just another cctv lens made by goyo optical. availability in september? they will wait until august to take preorders, then will order themselves the lot from goyo/ kowa. BS marketing for us, but a great/profitable idea for them.

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Almeida
By Almeida (Jan 1, 2012)

It's a full frame lens, so it's probably not a cctv modification but an "original" design.

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

I don't think Kowa makes any lenses larger than full frame

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 1, 2012)

Seb Farges on Vimeo:

World Premiere !!! SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE T0.95 / 50mm Part I : The Night Tests
http://vimeo.com/34409965

The Day Tests:
http://vimeo.com/34417964

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Jan 4, 2012)

Thanks, Joe. Watched both clips. I'm underwhelmed, however. Beaucoup de lens flares, ho-humm images.

I guess if you really want to have 95 percent of your image always OUT OF FOCUS, then this is the lens to shoot video with. Fortunately, the analog human eye does not see things quite the same way.

Amazingly priced "ultra bright" lenses may be a fad, sort of like 3D is for home TVs.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Jan 4, 2012)

People interested in lenses might ponder the videos and see things they like (oooh) or don't (ugh). The layperson, meanwhile, will simply say, "Looks dark," or "Should have used flash." Audiences might prefer faked night scenes or the use of car headlamps or even a cheap LED.

Something else: not even the fastest lens can compensate for the horrific WB one gets from sodium vapor street lamps, or for near-zero (star) light.

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marike6
By marike6 (Jan 1, 2012)

12 aperture blades (circular). Way to go. Should be "bokeh-licious". I wouldn't mind if they made it f1.4 however, for the simple fact that the 0.95 aperture will make it extremely expensive.

Also for m43, I would have preferred the focal length of 25mm like the Voigtlander 25 f.95. That way it would be a good general purpose cine lens.

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Dan Ortego
By Dan Ortego (Jan 1, 2012)

I think the whole super-fast lens thing' is getting just a bit too crazy. Sometimes it's nice to see both ears in a portrait.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Jan 3, 2012)

'Getting' ? Haha, where have you been. If anything it's getting less because people are getting lazy with OIS every kit sells with these days.

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Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Jan 1, 2012)

imagine using this lens one a APS-C sized mirrorless camera for making movies. Its going to be cheaper compared to Leica's 50mm f/.95 lens anyday. good start to 2012 with this announcement.

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gl2k
By gl2k (Jan 1, 2012)

The scope image does it. Will all picture look like this one in the future ?
Nothing in focus except a tiny area ?

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chris_j_l
By chris_j_l (Jan 1, 2012)

Probably they wanted to blur out the Lumix/Panny brand on the camera - can't be seen to prefer Oly/Pan I suppose.

FWIW I've ordered one as current mounting solutions of u4/3 on spotting scopes owe more to Heath Robinson than to an Edison.

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xilvar
By xilvar (Jan 1, 2012)

Note that this lens is T0.95 rather than F0.95. T-stops are calibrated on a per lens basis and generally for an equivalent T and F-stop number The T-stop would be brighter. Thus this lens is actually slightly brighter than the noctilux.

Also, it appears to be targeted at different purposes (cinema rather than still) so in theory it probably emphasizes bokeh and color tone wide open rather than sharpness and color tone at 5.6.

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Ley
By Ley (Jan 1, 2012)

Oh my god, this is a 99% copy of the Leica M lens.
Is it Legal to sell these to the US?

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manmachine242
By manmachine242 (Jan 1, 2012)

???

SLR Magic: 12 elements in 7 groups
Noctilux: 8 elements in 5 groups

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Almeida
By Almeida (Jan 1, 2012)

Not to mention the Noctilux is not a T/0.95 lens.

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photoholiko
By photoholiko (Jan 1, 2012)

why not, Toyota copies Mercedes Benz model for model under the Lexus name!

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Jan 1, 2012)

I don't know where you get that from. Virtually every Lexus model ever made was based on an existing Toyota model, except for the 8 cylinder ones which are unique and not Mercedes copies.

The Lexus branded Toyotas are generally made in Japan, and come loaded with luxury options, and are priced accordingly.

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Wally626
By Wally626 (Jan 1, 2012)

Using the same optical design is legal as long as it is over 20 years old. Making it look like a Leica lens is problematic depending on how close it comes.

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MaikeruN
By MaikeruN (Jan 2, 2012)

coz its a different optical design? =.="

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

Comparing the two the T0.95 is a lot brighter than the f/0.95 Noctilux.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Jan 3, 2012)

But less contrasty =)

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viclauyyc
By viclauyyc (Jan 1, 2012)

I like in Hong Kong for 20 years and I never know HK has a lens maker. Hope the lens is as good as it look.

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Jan 1, 2012)

The Pentax K1000 was the first Pentax SLR built outside of Japan back in the late 70's in Hong Kong. I am sure many people living in Hong Kong did not know that either.

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Sam Carriere
By Sam Carriere (Jan 1, 2012)

Does anyone else get really tired of attention payed by sites like this to announcements of products that will be available nine months from now or, more realistically, in a year? Manufacturers can dream up any hype they want and the reviewers, lemming-like, respond with publicity.

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Joshlovesphotos
By Joshlovesphotos (Jan 1, 2012)

I agree Sam. They are trying to turn Photography into a consumption market, like phones, where you have to buy a new one every year or basically not be able to keep up with anyone else. But it doesn't work. They end up talking about items that are coming out in almost a year from now, if they ever will come out. That nikon rumors site annoys the heck out of me. He spent all last year guessing with no accuracy at all, when Nikon was going to announce a D800.

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Joshlovesphotos
By Joshlovesphotos (Jan 1, 2012)

Let me just add that I experience nothing less than utter amazement that these sites exist. They don't specialize in anything, and instead try to capture every market at the same time by gorging themselves with too many things on each site, and the menus and navigation of these sites is completely useless and confusing. I think dpreview must have no less than 5 places you could consider photo gallery forums.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jan 1, 2012)

yeah for sure, but you know sometimes i get really bored and i like photography ... just dont click on any ads, banners, shoplinks in articles etc on those sites to make sure they dont benefit from my bordomeness hehe i rather google it myself or retype links in the browser than clicking on them ... brave new world, welcom to the year 2012 hehe

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Tee1up
By Tee1up (Jan 1, 2012)

A lot of people plan future purchases on a fairly long time frame. I see no problem carrying news of these developments as they are released. Indeed, DPReview can not be faulted for being all inclusive. Applying your news filter would be annoying and of no value.

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Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (Jan 1, 2012)

@Josh: "They are trying to turn Photography into a consumption market," It -is- a consumption market and has been for years. It's a free site, and you're free to leave, as well as vent.

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AlanG
By AlanG (Jan 2, 2012)

You'd probably have to wait more than 9 months for a Noctilux.

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Jan 1, 2012)

Why do they have to name it SLR Magic. Noktor makes it sound much more expensive.

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Jan 1, 2012)

Other than that, its a very nice looking lens. Image quality should be ok for video.

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Ashley Pomeroy
By Ashley Pomeroy (Jan 1, 2012)

Especially - and I'm sure this has been pointed out before, many times - that they don't seem to make lenses for SLRs. It must be a translation issue (perhaps they thought that SLR = Camera). Still, I remember thinking that Star Wars was a stupid name when I first heard about it, and look how that turned out.

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Jogger
By Jogger (Jan 1, 2012)

Why wouldnt they just make this a PL mount.. i doubt any Leica owners are going to consider a lens from "SLR Magic".

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danaceb
By danaceb (Jan 1, 2012)

With M mount, and specifically Leica lenses in an absolutely perverse bubble, I think many would be less than completely hostile to it. Voigtlander itself is experiencing a price bump and golden age on the M9 and EVIL cameras, due to bubble panic Leica and Zeiss prices.

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Klarno
By Klarno (Jan 1, 2012)

Epson and Ricoh also make cameras/modules with the Leica M mount. And this also targets people who have Leica M adapters. I think they picked the M mount to cover as many systems as possible within the design constraints of the lens. Sony E, Micro Four Thirds, Nikon 1 all have flange focal distances significantly shorter than Leica M, which means adapters can be and are fashioned.

The Arri PL mount has a 52mm flange focal distance, one of the longest on the market. I bet the design of this lens wouldn't allow a register distance so long.

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inevitable crafts studio
By inevitable crafts studio (Jan 1, 2012)

i think its strange too, seems that the M-mount alone is nowadays a factor for buying things .. oh yeah it "could" be used on an M9 ... oh really ? ... oh really ! hehe

what makes it so strange to me is the focus calibration etc needed for rangefinder coupeling ... if 90 percent use it with adapters, it would be better and cheaper to just make no coupeling at all i guess

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danaceb
By danaceb (Jan 1, 2012)

All the actual complexity is in the camera, it is just a simple ridge that acts as a cam on the lens that the rangefinder reads from. Calibration is a not nearly as tedious as people make it out to be either

That being said, I love RFs and all but something has got to give in regards to the prices, whatever. Bout time for a blatant chinese copy ripoff of the Noctilux i guess.

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Solarcoaster
By Solarcoaster (Jan 1, 2012)

The third parties strike another blow against the Canikon Colossus' grip on the lens market. Cameras like Sony NEX-7 and Sony NEX-5N now gain another excellent low-light performer that will work great with focus peaking, further improving the growing lens lineup.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jan 1, 2012)

I little dramatic, don't you think?

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Jens_G
By Jens_G (Jan 2, 2012)

I wouldn't have considered MF lenses on a non RF-focussing body until the NEX cameras came along with focus peaking. Best of all, the NEX 5 which I have didn't even come out with it, was added with firmware update 4. Kudos to Sony for continuously improving the firmware, and not leaving the first gen Nex'es behind.

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huyzer
By huyzer (Jan 1, 2012)

Oh wow, nice.

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f_stops
By f_stops (Jan 1, 2012)

Can't tell if it has a focus cam - the photo looks like no cam. Have to assume if it is full frame + M mount it has a focus cam (it is over 2 lbs!). My 15mm voigtlander is fine without rangefinder coupling, a 50/.95 of course won't work.

Love to see a comparison vs f1 and f.95 nocti's.

So nice to see a few manufacturers out there making some interesting products.

Question is . . . price?

edit - it does have a cut-out on the mount for the roller, and from the side shot - there appears a focus cam (black, not brass).

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MirkoK
By MirkoK (Jan 1, 2012)

http://slrmagic.com/products.php

wow, just 1000$ it seems..... looking forward for a compairsion to the leica competition which is 10x more expensive

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Almeida
By Almeida (Jan 1, 2012)

That was the old lens, looks nothing like this one.

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adech
By adech (Jan 2, 2012)

It has a focus cam. I am testing it on my M9

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Henning W
By Henning W (Jan 4, 2012)

Does this lens you are 'testing' look like the pictures of the lens shown here?

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fabvir
By fabvir (Jan 26, 2012)

adech, how did you possibly get the slr magic 50/T0.95 , as they don't accept orders yet and the price is unknown? do you work for them?

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adech
By adech (Feb 22, 2012)

I was one of the 7 testers. There are more than 20 now from what I understand.

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Andrew Elliott
By Andrew Elliott (Jan 1, 2012)

2012 starts well..!

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polarabbit
By polarabbit (Jan 1, 2012)

0.7M close focusing as well...wow

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sebfarges
By sebfarges (Jan 3, 2012)

Here are some exclusives movie tests I've done with it :
night tests :
http://vimeo.com/34409965
day tests :
http://vimeo.com/34417964
few stills photo :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43243778@N04/sets/72157628686347813/
Thnaks for watching :)

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