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Sony reveals DSC-RX1 full-frame camera with fixed Zeiss T* 35mm F2 lens

By dpreview staff on Sep 12, 2012 at 04:00 GMT
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Photokina 2012: Sony has officially announced the Cyber-shot DSC-RX1, a full-frame compact camera with a fixed 35mm F2 lens. The camera features a 36x24mm CMOS sensor and a leaf shutter for near-silent operation. It includes a manual aperture ring and dedicated exposure compensation dial for direct manual control. It can also capture video at frame rates of up to 1080p60 and includes a series of video-friendly features. As rumored, the camera will retail for around $2,800.

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Press Release:

Sony Introduces the World’s First Full-Frame Compact Digital Camera

New Compact Cyber-shot® RX1 Camera features 35mm full-frame image sensor and wide aperture f/2 lens

SAN DIEGO, Sept 12, 2012 – For the first time, all the benefits of full-frame digital photography are available in a palm-sized compact camera. 

The extraordinary new Sony Cyber-shot® DSC-RX1 digital camera packs an advanced 35mm full-frame 24.3 MP Exmor® CMOS sensor and exceptionally Carl Zeiss T*t 35mm f/2.0 fixed lens into a highly portable, lightweight camera body.  Measuring approximately 4.5 inches wide by 3 inches tall and weighing just over a pound, it’s significantly smaller and lighter than any full-frame DSLR yet sacrifices nothing in terms of image quality, HD video quality or manual control.

“The new Cyber-shot RX1 is truly ‘one of a kind’, offering a unique combination of size and performance that’s never before been realized in the world of digital cameras,” said Yosuke Tomoda, director of the Cyber-shot camera business at Sony Electronics. “With its highly advanced sensor and fast 35mm f/2.0 lens packed into a small, portable camera body, professionals, enthusiasts and advanced hobbyists can experience the world of full-frame imaging in new and different ways than they ever thought possible.”

The new camera’s unified lens and body design allows performance that few interchangeable lenses can match.  The Carl Zeiss lens not only delivers spectacular image quality all the way to the edges of each frame, it incorporates a near-silent in-lens shutter and is far more compact than comparable lenses of interchangeable design.  The camera also features full manual control options and an intuitive user interface, making it easy for photographers to adjust all settings quickly and easily.

The 35mm full-frame sensor inside the RX1 camera more than doubles the area of APS-C sensors commonly found in much bulkier DSLR cameras, allowing it to take in significantly more light while capturing content.  With an effective resolution of 24.3 megapixels, it’s capable of resolving the finest image details and most subtle textures for rich color reproduction and an impressively broad dynamic range.

The large sensor size also boosts the camera’s sensitivity range to a generous ISO 100 – 25600, with the option to shoot as low as ISO 50 in expanded sensitivity mode.  Similarly, ISO settings as high as 102400 can be achieved using Multi Frame Noise Reduction. This allows the camera to capture natural, low noise handheld images in near-dark conditions without needing flash.

The fast, bright Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 35mm lens is a versatile choice for portraits, street photography and everyday shooting.  This premium lens features newly designed optics including an Advanced Aspherical (AA) glass element, which contributes to the camera’s extremely compact dimensions without sacrificing optical performance.

The lens’ wide F2 maximum, 9-bladed circular aperture enable beautiful background defocus (‘bokeh’) effects to rival or exceed professional-class DSLR camera lenses. Additionally, it features a macro switching ring on the lens barrel which instantly shortens the minimum focusing distance to approximately 20cm (from image plane), allowing the camera to capture small, close-up subjects with exquisite detail.

The Cyber-shot RX1 camera also features an enhanced BIONZ® processing engine that rapidly handles data from the Exmor® CMOS sensor and also powers full-resolution burst shooting at up to five frames per second.  The powerful processor can output image data in 14-bit RAW format, giving advanced users total freedom to express their creative vision throughout the shooting and post-production processes. 

Despite the camera’s extraordinarily compact dimensions, the new Cyber-shot RX1 model offers a full range of manual control modes on par with typical high-end full-frame DSLR cameras. Dedicated lens rings allow for fingertip control of focus and aperture, while a DSLR-style Focus mode dial on the front of the camera enables easy switching between focus modes.  Top-mounted exposure compensation and mode dials are strategically placed for simple access and operation, while custom function and AEL buttons on the back panel are also easily accessible. 

The new camera features a Quick Navi mode that allows fast, intuitive adjustment of camera settings.  This is especially useful when using the camera with an optional viewfinder (sold separately).  A memory recall (MR) mode is accessible via the mode dial so photographers can store and instantly recall up to three sets of camera settings.

Other refinements include a MF Assist function that magnifies a portion of the image while framing to simplify fine focus adjustments, as well as a Peaking function that highlights sharply-focused areas of the image on screen.

Additionally, the RX1 camera features By Pixel Super Resolution digital zoom technology, which allows for magnification of image size without sacrificing pixel count.  This results in far higher quality results than are achievable with conventional digital zoom.

A Smart Teleconverter function crops a central portion of the image sensor, boosting effective magnification by 1.4x or 2x realizing an effective 49mm or 70mm focal length.  With the extremely high pixel count of the full-frame image sensor, even zoomed and cropped images maintain generous amounts of fine detail when blown up for large print sizes.

In addition to beautiful still images, the Cyber-shot RX1 compact camera can capture high-quality, low-noise Full HD movie footage in all lighting conditions at a choice of 60p or 24p (progressive) frame rates.  There’s a full complement of P/A/S/M exposure modes during video shooting for creative flexibility.

The new camera also features 13 different Creative Styles for fine-tuning images, plus a wide range of Picture Effect treatments.  Further, it has Auto HDR and D-Range Optimizer, bracket shooting (Exposure, DRO or White Balance) and Auto HDR shooting modes, and there’s a Digital Level Gauge that indicates camera pitch and camera roll on the LCD screen for straight, even landscape and architectural shots. 

New Accessories for Cyber-shot RX1

Shooting possibilities for stills and video are broadened by the camera’s Multi Interface Shoe that accepts a growing range of accessories. Options include a high-quality OLED XGA OLED Tru-Finder™ EVF (model FDA-EV1MK) which allows for even greater manual focusing precision as well as an external optical viewfinder featuring Carl Zeiss optics (model FDA-V1K). 

Also available are a thumb grip (model TGA-1) for sure, comfortable handling as well as a lens hood (model LHP-1) and jacket case (model LCJ-RXB).

Sony PlayMemories Services

The Cyber-shot RX1 comes preinstalled with PlayMemories Home™ (Lite Edition) software, allowing easy image transfers to a PC for managing, editing and printing. Available for free download, a full version of PlayMemories Home software adds movie editing and disc burning.

Also available for download, PlayMemories Studio™ allows game-like editing of photos and videos on PlayStation®3 systems. Images can be shared easily via PlayMemories Online™ service, the cloud-based sharing service from Sony that simplifies ‘any time, any place’ viewing on a wide range of connected devices.

Pricing and Availability

The Cyber-shot RX1 compact, fixed lens camera will be available this November for about $2800. 

The FDA-EV1K electric viewfinder and FDA-V1K optical viewfinder will each be available at launch for about $450 and $600, respectively.

The thumb grip, lens hood and jacket case will also be available at launch for about $250, $180 and $250, respectively.

The new camera and all compatible accessories will be sold at Sony retail stores (www.store.sony.com) and other authorized dealers nationwide.

Please visit blog.sony.com/rx1 for a full video preview of the new Cyber-shot RX1 compact camera and follow #SonyCamera on twitter for the latest camera news.

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1 specifications

Price
MSRP$2,800/€3,100/£2,600
Body type
Body typeLarge sensor compact
Sensor
Max resolution6000 x 4000
Other resolutions6000 x 3376, 3936 x 2624, 3936 x 2216, 2640 x 1760, 2640 x 1488
Image ratio w:h3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels24 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors25 megapixels
Sensor sizeFull frame (35.8 x 23.8 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
Color spacesRGB, AdobeRGB
Color filter arrayRGB Primary color
Image
ISOAuto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, 12800, 25600
White balance presets9
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationNo
Uncompressed formatRAW
File format
  • RAW (ARW2.3 Format)
  • RAW+JPEG
  • JPEG
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)35 mm
Optical zoom1×
Maximum apertureF2.0 - F22.0
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Selective single-point
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Face Detection
Autofocus assist lampYes, built -in LED type
Digital zoomYes (14x)
Manual focusYes
Normal focus range25 cm (9.84)
Number of focus points25
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots1,229,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeXtra FineTFT LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/4000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Program Auto
  • Aperture Priority
  • Shutter Priority
  • Manual
  • MR (Memory Recall) 1 / 2 / 3
  • Movie
  • Sweep shooting
  • Scene Selection
  • Intelligent Auto
Scene modes
  • Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Sports
  • Sunset
  • Night Portrait
  • Night Scene
  • Hand-held Twilight
Built-in flashYes (Pop-up)
Flash range6.00 m
External flashYes (via hot-shoe)
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Slow Sync
Drive modes
  • Single-frame advance
  • Continuous advance
  • Continuous adv Priority AE
  • Speed Priority Continuous
  • Self-timer
  • Self Portrait Self-timer
  • Continuous Self-timer
Continuous drive5 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 sec)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±3 (at 1/3 EV steps)
AE Bracketing (3 frames at 1/3 EV, 2/3 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (60, 50, 25, 24 fps), 1440 x 1080 (30, 25 fps), 1280 x 720 (30 fps), 640 x 480 (30, 25 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, AVCHD
Videography notesAVCHD: 28M PS (1920×1080, 60p/50p), 24M FX (1920×1080, 60i/50i), 17M FH (1920×1080, 60i/50i), 24M FX (1920×1080, 24p/25p), 17M FH (1920×1080, 24p/25p)
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC, Memory Stick Duo/Pro Duo/Pro-HG Duo
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (Mini)
WirelessEye-Fi Connected
Remote controlNo
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-Ion NP-BX1 battery
Battery Life (CIPA)270
Weight (inc. batteries)482 g (1.06 lb / 17.00 oz)
Dimensions113 x 65 x 70 mm (4.45 x 2.56 x 2.76)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingNo
GPSNone

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Comments

Total comments: 144
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GaryR60
By GaryR60 (Apr 19, 2013)

Well, if you want every one of your photos to be shot with a 35mm focal length and you don't mind paying nearly $3,000 for it, knock yourself out. Otherwise, this is the dumbest idea I've ever heard of, full-frame sensor or not.

0 upvotes
netify
By netify (Feb 5, 2013)

Someone may have commented on this, bit according to the spec sheet, this camera has no image stabilization for still shots. Ludicrous. And another $1k+ for all the accessories? Really? And I'm a Minolta/Sony guy for the last 20 years.

Netify (sony a700 w/ grip, Tammy 17-50 f/2.8, Sigma 500mm f/4.5 prime, sony handycam hdr-12 / 120GB hard drive / AVCHD video)

0 upvotes
FELIX1215
By FELIX1215 (Oct 30, 2012)

I'm waiting for the Nikon's F mount version to use with my collection of F lenses and the new Zeiss UP.

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2012/20121008_7-Zeiss-ultra-performance-lenses.html

: )

0 upvotes
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Oct 9, 2012)

With a pancake lens, this camera kicks ass.

Tiny camera with big sensor.

Against the odds.

Brilliant.

.

3 upvotes
rusticus
By rusticus (Sep 28, 2012)

if you were offered the part for 1500 Euros, then you had a chance to sell it well - so this will be a slow-moving

1 upvote
645D
By 645D (Sep 19, 2012)

Isn't it a standard X flash Hotshoe on the top? Sony finally ditched the awkward Minolta hotshoe, good move!

1 upvote
PowerG9atBlackForest
By PowerG9atBlackForest (Sep 19, 2012)

Yes.

1 upvote
PowerG9atBlackForest
By PowerG9atBlackForest (Sep 18, 2012)

I saw the camera today (Tuesday 18th) at the Photokina - unfortunately no hands-on view as all models were kept safe under glass. Looks magnificent, very promising!

The pop-up flash incl. it's mecanism however is even worse, fragile and tiny, not to say ridiculous than one could have hoped from the first release notes it would not.

The "tomb" for it within the body's top, i.e. the pop-down space, may measure an estimated 1,2 cm². So, for the sake of a serious camera - just leave that flash and use the hole for something nice!

Everybody seemed to like the camera. Hermann

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
1 upvote
SantaFeBill
By SantaFeBill (Sep 15, 2012)

Wonder what the boys who priced this were smoking? Probably the same as those who did the initial pricing for the Sigma SD1, or who did the licensing agreements for the BetaMax format (remember that?).
If it gets you that far from reality, perhaps I should try it. :)

0 upvotes
T3
By T3 (Sep 15, 2012)

FF sensors are expensive. The Carl Zeiss f/2 lens is expensive. Those two things alone would make expensive. Then, giving it optical stabilization, a leaf shutter, beautiful build quality, and compacting it all down to something that can fit in the palm of your hand will also make it expensive. Plus, consider that it's the first camera of its kind. All these things considered, the price is about right.

3 upvotes
villagranvicent
By villagranvicent (Sep 21, 2012)

I guess this camera is aimed to the same Leica X2 target, basically is "only" $500 more expensive but I guess with a much higher IQ... still I rather have a Fuji X-100 for half the price.

0 upvotes
km25
By km25 (Sep 13, 2012)

The sutter is a leaf. At 1/2000. Your F stop may control when you can really use that high of a sutter speed. Good for electro sync. Also Carl Ziess Planar is top of the line, Sonnar is an also made. I have mostly seen it in tele lens. I do beleive it is a lens with a simpler formula. For the wide angle lens do they not use Biogon.The simplist is Tessar.

1 upvote
sauchiyong
By sauchiyong (Sep 13, 2012)

So many what Sony was thinking.

Here is my guess, There is a FF small size camera coming. R&D will be returned from FF camera, so expensive leaf shutter 35mm f2 zeiss camera still can have enough market to make money. For sure a FF e mount camera that take FF lens with an adaptor is just around the corner. In fact, the FF video camera already here. So look forward to a FF small compact camera with a body like this one. Would it come with some optional leaf shutter lenses? Well, hasselblad V series interchangable lenses are great to work with, it is great for day light flash. may be this coming camera is target for pro that likely to use day light flash. 1/2000 is very high for leaf shutter. Pros used to give up high lens speed, added cost of shutter in each lens, and lower max shutter speed. The CF lenses Vs the F lenses in V series explains why. I used to own 503cx and 2000FCM. This camera will allow image to show flash light to be much brighter than the sun light.

0 upvotes
kewlguy
By kewlguy (Sep 12, 2012)

IQ must be good, but at $2800 it will also serve very well as a neck hanger...sort of cheaper version of M9

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Fave Photog
By Fave Photog (Sep 12, 2012)

At least with a Leica hanging around your neck you can feel superior to the poor working folk, but a Sony?

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SiliconVoid
By SiliconVoid (Sep 13, 2012)

Not to mention being able to change lenses with an M9.. Hardly a fair trade for the lower cost..

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brdeveloper
By brdeveloper (Sep 14, 2012)

A 808 Pureview usually do a better work than this monster for street photography. People look at you and think "It's just a cell phone" and act normally. With this camera, your street pictures lack spontaneity. The only reason why I'd buy a FF mirrorless camera would be the chance to get my FD lenses back to life.

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T3
By T3 (Sep 15, 2012)

@SiliconVoid- A Leica M9 costs $6500. A Summicron-M 35mm f/2 costs $3200. The price of an RX1 is only $2800. Plus it has optical image stabilization, video, and a flash, none of which an M9 or Summicron-M has. And you can add an EVF, giving you all the advances viewfinder features that an EVF gives you. Plus, you have to remember that a lot of Leica shooters just shoot with only one lens anyway! So all things considered, it's a pretty darn GOOD trade for lower cost! Plus, the RX1 is more compact too!

3 upvotes
Fave Photog
By Fave Photog (Sep 12, 2012)

A fool and his money are soon parted! Will there be 100 fools worldwide who buy this boondoggle?

At a price of almost $3,000 USD!!! Fixed lens...what was Sony thinking? 1/2000th max shutter speed...what was Sony thinking? Have to delve into a menu to make changes, such as shutter speed, etc...what was Sony thinking? No way to securely grip the camera with one hand...what was Sony thinking? No optical viewfinder...what was Sony thinking?

The list of what was Sony thinking is near endless. Pity the fool who buys into this boondoggle!

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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Brandon Feinberg
By Brandon Feinberg (Sep 13, 2012)

I totally see your point, just remember that its whats behind the camera that makes the art. comfortable convenient gear is just more comfortable and convenient it does not make better pictures. At the end of the day its just light being refracted onto a medium.

1 upvote
Schwermetall
By Schwermetall (Sep 13, 2012)

You are right with all.
But I nevertheless say a friendly hello to the RX1 because Sony is brave to build ideas and not only talking about.
... and give me hope that I will get a kind of "Digital Rollei 35" in the near future... (The Rollei 35 was my first camera and I'm missing it)

1 upvote
Terence SY Wong
By Terence SY Wong (Sep 13, 2012)

Over priced! Because RX1 is now on its own, no others enter into this FF compact DC market yet, suggested Nikon 1 should build a FF one and mark the price under 2000USD.

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T3
By T3 (Sep 15, 2012)

Sounds like you're just some poor, bitter guy.

It's a beautiful camera with great physical controls. Most shooters will stick it on aperture priority, change aperture with the aperture ring on the lens, and use the exposure comp dial to make adjustments from there. Who needs to "delve into menu to make changes" as you falsely claim?

As for needing to hold the camera with one hand, what self respecting shooter does one-handed shooting? Besides, there is an optional grip, an optional grip case, and I'm sure there will be third party options, too. And there is an OVF and EVF option too.

Looks like Sony gave this camera quite a lot of thought. Certainly more than you did when you wrote your post. LOL.

So are you done whining like a baby? LOL.

Seriously, though, most people are simply complaining because they'll never be able to afford one. You must complain about car manufacturers who make cars you can't afford either. Hahahaha.

2 upvotes
snegron
By snegron (Sep 12, 2012)

Nice camera, nice features, but why would I spend that much money when I can get a Leica X2 for less? Lower the price and I will consider it.

0 upvotes
Michael_13
By Michael_13 (Sep 16, 2012)

Yes, Leica and Fuji are probably the toughest competitors for this Sony model.
Let's hope for an interesting shoot-out between them, here on dpreview!

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Donnie G
By Donnie G (Sep 12, 2012)

Is there a market for a fixed lens 35mm true full frame camera? I don't know, but if there is, then Sony will have a winner with their RX1. Sony is really rolling the dice on this one. It does make sense for Sony to spread the cost of development of the A99 over two distinctly different camera form factors instead of doing an obvious lower cost A99 clone. Might as well explore the depths of mirrorless camera acceptance in the marketplace while you're out there. They will either win it all or lose it all. Time will tell.

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

What the heck is Sony smoking these days. $2800.00 for a point and shoot camera is crazy. A full frame sensor in this limited format (35mm) will be not allow much creativity. The DOF will be limited by the focal range of the lens.

I just don't know what they were thinking, don't they do market research? Hell I don't know this may sell one or two units, but I really can't see anyone willing to spend that kind of money on this camera.

Sure there will be those that have more money than sense, but how many of those are they. Why not buy a Leica X2 and save $900.00 and have quality camera.

1 upvote
Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Sep 12, 2012)

They probably read all the posts on here moaning about the X100 not being full-frame ;)

3 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (Sep 19, 2012)

I guess their idea is that all other market segments are overcrowded. And here they create a new market segment, which might be small, but all for Sony and, without any competition in it, with huge margins too.

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SiliconVoid
By SiliconVoid (Sep 12, 2012)

Sony steps up to the plate, knocks the dirt from their cleats, a practice swing to loosen up while assessing their competitor...
Its a swing, and miss! Strike one.

The 'benefits' of a full frame sensor are all but lost without the ability to change lenses. A 35mm lens is just barely a wide angle lens. Sure it will be much wider than any APS-C user has seen on their cameras with a 35mm lens, but even the traditional/standard objective length for a wide angle is 28mm.

Back in the day there was a demand for 'film holders' with fixed lenses (justifiably at ~35mm also) but that market was met specifically because they were LESS EXPENSIVE.. Does Sony really think consumers want to spend as much as a good quality professional grade SLR only to end up with a fixed lens camera..? No lenses.. No viewfinder.. Not even EVF.. Not even a hybrid rangefinder style viewfinder.. A ~$2700 point and shoot..! Really?

The only positive, functional, thing about this will be the fostering of competition.

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

In all fairness they do offer a $700.00 EVF... :>} Hey if someone is stupid enough to buy the camera, they will buy the EVF too, then go around bragging how much their camera cost.

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vtinitus
By vtinitus (Sep 12, 2012)

sweet.

does it come in affordable too? just kidding, i am pretty happy with my a55 and some superior 'heritage' minolta lenses.

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GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (Sep 12, 2012)

An interesting camera, but who's going to pay $2800 for a Sony fixed lens compact? Even if it is full-frame. Half the price then maybe...

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

Not even the the Leica X2 is $1995.00.

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sashko1
By sashko1 (Sep 12, 2012)

would you look at that stunning 9 blade diaphram- Image the bokeh!

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

And where did you see these stunning images? Not here!

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Almeida
By Almeida (Sep 12, 2012)

In fairness, he said "imagine" the bokeh.

1 upvote
Bigbokeh
By Bigbokeh (Sep 12, 2012)

Look say what you want about Leica - they have 80 years of incredible designs, glass and heritage to warrant the price of their gear - they hit their mark with most everything they create. Now Sony wants us to think they can play at the same level as Leica - Lexis had to prove itself worthy of Benz money - they come close - albeit without a soul - but Sony? Look my advice to Sony would be to look at why Minolta is gone and then stop following their model - Minolta had great features in their cameras but couldn't build or buy glass. Until Sony figures out who they are and what they want to be when they grow up we will continue to get these near Genius or Retarded attempts - they do keep things interesting but I won't be buying into Sony until they can figure themselves out. (Leica, Nikon are decent business models - think mounts, compatibility and longevity)

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Sep 12, 2012)

Minolta had some superb lenses, most notably their M mount lenses for the CLE camera. Their 28mm blew the doors off my 28 Elmarit. Minolta's problem was redundancy--assuming an equivalent price level, there simply isn't any need for Minolta, Pentax, etc.

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lxstorm
By lxstorm (Sep 12, 2012)

First Leica M body has build in optical rangefinder coupled to M mount that is an expensive precise piece of machinery and optics that takes a lot to manufacture on its own but let you focus manually accurately and swap lenses.

Second Leica M lenses are top notch among 35mm lenses. You want Leica M experience you have to purchase Leica M glass. I was using Konica HEXAR RF M lenses extensively in the past besides Leca M lenses so I know what I am talking about.

But this f2.0 Sony seems to be a perfect reporter companion or decent travel-family camera as well. However Sony does not deliver neither f0.9 no 50mm APO.

Leica is Leica, Ferrari is Ferrari :)

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happypoppeye
By happypoppeye (Sep 12, 2012)

Looks great ...too expensive for my taste though ...and bank account. A definite step in the right direction by Sony though ...I hope others will follow.

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Pik2004
By Pik2004 (Sep 12, 2012)

This is good news! Mirrorless full frame. it wouldn't be too far for others to follow (Hope Nikon would be next with interchangeable lens).
This ones compact, but I definitely prefer Fujifilm look.

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maboule123
By maboule123 (Sep 12, 2012)

Why not a little zoom?

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audijam
By audijam (Sep 12, 2012)

this sh** is sick...really sick...love it!

3 upvotes
gdfthr73
By gdfthr73 (Sep 12, 2012)

No viewfinder but an optical viewfinder may work nicely attached to the flash mount. Still for the price it is very hard to justify such a purchase for most. Perhaps in 5 years such an instrument will be affordable and more common.

I would also assume such a camera with interchangeable lenses would be just around the corner.

Good job Sony!

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Photato
By Photato (Sep 12, 2012)

Cute, but way pass the value sweet spot. Even if I had the money to buy one. I would be paranoid of an accident so I wouldn't use it much.
I am surprised that Sony decided to skip APS-C and go for full frame.
In APS-C it would have been less than $1,000 with plenty of quality.
I hope Sony sell a bunch of this just for trying.

1 upvote
hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

They won't the buying public is too smart and informed for that to happen.

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Gesture
By Gesture (Sep 12, 2012)

These wondrous stalk flashes. Are they mechanically sound. Otherwise, bravo, even if beyond my reach.

1 upvote
Calvin Chann
By Calvin Chann (Sep 12, 2012)

Like the camera, but at that price, I'll pass.

3 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (Sep 12, 2012)

How much do you want to bet that people will find a way to remove the lens and mount old manual focus lenses on this. Now that would be a hack I would like to see.

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Sep 12, 2012)

Nothing, because the leaf shutter is part of the lens so the camera would be left with no shutter.

4 upvotes
Digital_Photon
By Digital_Photon (Sep 12, 2012)

LMAO!!

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

That won't happen...

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (Sep 12, 2012)

Yes! My next camera! Oh wait? You can't change the lens? That is just weird.

2 upvotes
Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Sep 12, 2012)

Weird like the Fuji X100, Leica X1/2, Sigma DP1/2 etc.

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Rooru S
By Rooru S (Sep 12, 2012)

It's a Cybershot after all, fixed lens range of cameras... Expect compact FF interchangeable lens camera next year.

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Bigbokeh
By Bigbokeh (Sep 12, 2012)

Weird like twice the price Andy

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Sep 12, 2012)

@Bigbokeh compared to the $2000 Leica X2 this is a bargain

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Valentinian
By Valentinian (Sep 12, 2012)

Camera and price are out of my reach... but... can't help noticing that there is NO viewfinder, and instead they placed a flash.

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Jax9
By Jax9 (Sep 12, 2012)

Sooooo... This is just a Sony's version of the Fujifilm X100 but full frame. Sweet looking camera.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Sep 12, 2012)

The spec says 14x digital zoom, the press release only mentions 1.4x and 2x digital teleconverter and "By Pixel Super Resolution digital zoom" which is what?

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Bigbokeh
By Bigbokeh (Sep 12, 2012)

it means with a full frame you can afford to crop it and still have a decent image

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

The Specs here clearly state 1X zoom, meaning no zoom....

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peevee1
By peevee1 (Sep 19, 2012)

No, on DPR it is still "Digital zoom Yes (14x)"

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paolopan83
By paolopan83 (Sep 12, 2012)

Wow, 2800$ ? It looks nice. Maybe lens is really good. Maybe it appeals people that are very much into street photography? But otherwise it is just a huge price.
I value "pocketability", but honestly for that price I can get a reflex + one or two very good lenses.

I guess this kind of camera is for pro or rich amateurs... and maybe it has more appeal on Japan/asiatic market.

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d3xmeister
By d3xmeister (Sep 12, 2012)

1/2000 shutter speed render this camera useless

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ck3
By ck3 (Sep 12, 2012)

Well put! Useless indeed! I have yet to come up with a scenario in which I would consider using a shutter speed slower than 1/4000 to take a photo. All I can say to Sony is "Get a brain, morans!" We don't want blurry photos using shutter speeds like 1/2000 only!

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winkalman
By winkalman (Sep 12, 2012)

1/2000 to 1/4000 is only one stop. Who cares? Also, flash sync at 1/2000 is tremendously useful!

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kennyv9000
By kennyv9000 (Sep 12, 2012)

Don't blame anything before you guys really got one! Max speed is 1/4000...

http://www.engadget.com/photos/sony-rx1/#5271088

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Sep 13, 2012)

The Sony web site says 1/2000. of course, it also has the NEX-6 with a touchscreen, a feature that seems to have been removed late in the game, so I'm not sure if they're to be trusted. The RX100 also has this shutter speed limitation. They may use the same shutter.

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nicolaiecostel
By nicolaiecostel (Sep 12, 2012)

I see the glass elements as small, why is the barrel that large for the lens ? And why does it say "35 mm full frame CMOS sensor" on the orange ring, aren't the crazy people spending 2800 on a fixed lens camera going to know that ?

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Sep 12, 2012)

> aren't the crazy people spending 2800 on a fixed lens camera going to know that?

It's there to let everyone else know :)

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JackM
By JackM (Sep 12, 2012)

for the AF motor.

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Sep 12, 2012)

Because the Japanese love to label everything....

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Banhmi
By Banhmi (Sep 12, 2012)

Saw this camera and I -- JIZZED IN MY PANTS.

OK, now feeling relieved, it's time for me to go check out the NEX-6 preview.

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Blackraven
By Blackraven (Sep 12, 2012)

just need a good set of high-quality screw on lens adaptors to make it 24mm, 50mm and 75mm equivalents. Then i will buy for sure

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lxstorm
By lxstorm (Sep 12, 2012)

Really? And you haven't purchased Leica M9 + Leica lenses yet?
Or you want 24 50 75 from Zeiss too?

LOL

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pca7070
By pca7070 (Sep 12, 2012)

Will it be able to beat Sigma DPxM?

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HBowman
By HBowman (Sep 12, 2012)

I don't think so. More fun to use, for sure, but IQ wise at base ISO to 800 ... Nothing under D800 beat the Dp2m.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Sep 13, 2012)

I'd be less certain. Most tests show the actual resolution from those cameras as about the same as a 24-28mp Bayer sensor. Resolution is the Foveon party trick. Despite the claims of some, the color is not magic, just very good, as I expect this will also be. With a ff sensor, this could equal DP IQ even at low ISOs, and will definitely pass it by 400. IQ is about more than just resolution under optimal circumstances.

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michaelrz
By michaelrz (Sep 12, 2012)

"Pricing is very reasonable and affordable."

Warren Buffett

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Justin Francis
By Justin Francis (Sep 12, 2012)

Complete waste of time. Can't believe they put a fixed lens. Such a slow lens as well. Could have produced a legendary cam if they made it interchangeable. Those Sony marketing people need to be sacked.

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ihv
By ihv (Sep 12, 2012)

I might get one, very nice concept.

P.S. Sony has Full HD @ 60fps, lovely.

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Stollen1234
By Stollen1234 (Sep 12, 2012)

seriously for $2800 i mean for that price you get Canon 5D II or almost 5dII with all the features...

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (Sep 12, 2012)

Good luck shooting without a lens, let alone a Zeiss f/2.

Oh and sometimes a smaller size matters. ;)

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T3
By T3 (Sep 12, 2012)

But a 5DII with lens is huge compared to the RX1. If you walk down the street or into a room with a 5DII, you stick out like a sore thumb. If you want to keep a low profile, the RX1 is awesome. Not only is it physically small, it's also un-intimidating because it looks like a compact P&S! Plus, it has a virtually silent leaf shutter. No DSLR mirror slap, no DSLR shutter curtain sound. Again, great for being unobtrusive and keeping a low profile. Plus, it's optically stabilized which can also be a big advantage.

To give you an idea of just how small the RX1 is, the distance from the front of the lens to the back of the body is 70mm. The thickness of a 5DII body alone (no lens attached) is 75mm! So the entire thickness of the RX1 is less than the thickness of a 5DII body all by itself!

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Justin Francis
By Justin Francis (Sep 12, 2012)

For street photog, the Oly Pen plus 75mm 1.8 blows the Sony out of the water. The next Pen will be getting the excellent OM-D Sony sensor. The RX 1 makes no sense, esp with the asking price.

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hiepphotog
By hiepphotog (Sep 12, 2012)

Talking like a true m4/3 fanboy. Comparing 150mm equivalent lens to a 35mm equivalent lens (by the way, good luck with your street photography at 150mm) is just hilarious. And I agree that your big silver 75mm would be much stealthier /sarcasm.

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Rooru S
By Rooru S (Sep 12, 2012)

75mm f/1.8? Hey, this camera got a 35mm f/2. More usage than a telephoto lens.

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gdfthr73
By gdfthr73 (Sep 12, 2012)

The price point is high indeed but this is a first of its kind.
Sony isn't competing with m4/3 or any other mirror less system with this camera. It is a direct chalenge to Leica.

People said Sigma was nuts when the original DP1 (first true aps-c compact) was released at $600

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Xellz
By Xellz (Sep 12, 2012)

Just noticed, max shutter speed 1/2000... seriously? O_O At least nice try at introducing FF sensor in small package.

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T3
By T3 (Sep 12, 2012)

It probably has to do with the fact that it uses a leaf shutter rather than a curtain shutter. Leaf shutters are virtually silent.

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (Sep 12, 2012)

Back in the day 1/1000 was the most you got, time to rediscover ND filters I think.

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Isaac Crawford
By Isaac Crawford (Sep 12, 2012)

Leaf shutters are very quiet and they offer flash synch at all speeds. I find it funny that so many people want to shoot this thing at full aperture regardless of the situation. If you like oof rendering, you'd be a lot better off with a longer lens. Even a 50mm can really separate things from the background. Fast wide angles are for shooting in low light. There isn't a great reason for ND filters for this camera since the lens is a moderate wide angle.

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Oery
By Oery (Sep 12, 2012)

who will buy it, Paris Hilton ?
oh wait...... she need it in PINK :)

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lxstorm
By lxstorm (Sep 12, 2012)

1 K for 24mp FF body
&
1.8K for Zeiss T* lens

very reasonable for a guy who need Zeiss T* FF IQ

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emircruz
By emircruz (Sep 12, 2012)

yeah.. but if your 1K FF body breaks your 1.8K T* is also dead.

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Oery
By Oery (Sep 12, 2012)

@lxstorm: I don't think it will use a "real" Zeiss Lens
also I don't think Zeiss glasses will be used either
just like Leica on Panasonic product......
they were "designed by" Zeiss (or Leica on Pana)
huge difference compared to the lens which really "made by" Zeiss (or Leica)

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (Sep 13, 2012)

Reports say this is a real designed-and-made-by Zeiss lens. Without real Zeiss glass the price would be nuts, but with, sounds about right. They are aiming at Leica here. With a good Zeiss lens, and I'd take this any day over an X2. The IQ will be substantially better and it has more features (like good video specs.)

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Sep 12, 2012)

Am I reading this right, it is over two and a half grand, but it is -not- weather sealed? Correct me if I am wrong! I just searched briefly on the web, and I could not find any such mention. I bet the images are breathtaking ... but, that is one heck of an omission in my mind, for such a premium model.

Well (after combing further through specification lists on all manner of sites) I am glad that Sony at least will offer accessory viewfinders. An enthusiast camera NEEDS a good viewfinder, and I hope that others manufacturers take note of that as well. Sony makes some of the best viewfinders, from everything I see and hear.

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (Sep 12, 2012)

WOAH.... I just read in the preview: 249$ for a thumb grip!! Sony, sony, sony.... what are we going to do with you.

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hiepphotog
By hiepphotog (Sep 12, 2012)

This is a niche product just like a Leica. So if you're into this stuff, I think the price is fair of the combo offers excellent IQ. Personally, I will wait for the over-priced NEX-9 or the rumored steak sauce camera.

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kff
By kff (Sep 12, 2012)

Bravo ... but price - we know Sony ... :(

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Azfar
By Azfar (Sep 12, 2012)

I want one !!!!! oh wait ......

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Shunda77
By Shunda77 (Sep 12, 2012)

Holy sh!t balls batman!!

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Jens_G
By Jens_G (Sep 12, 2012)

motherofgod.jpg

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