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Samsung's Android-powered Galaxy Camera: the most connected camera?

Aug 29, 2012 at 17:34:31 GMT
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Samsung today launched the first true compact camera/smart device hybrid - the Galaxy Camera, with 3G/4G connectivity as well as Wi-Fi (which sets it apart from Wi-Fi-only competitors like the recently-announced Nikon Coolpix S800c).

Camera manufacturers have been seeing sales of their compact cameras fall for a long time now, challenged by a new generation of camera-equipped smartphones. As the photographic specification of phones get better, there's less need for most casual photographers to carry a dedicated camera, and if you're in the business of selling compact cameras, this is a serious problem. But Samsung believes it has a solution. Take a WB850F camera, and a Galaxy SIII smartphone, and... blend them. 

We've been talking to Samsung representatives for months about the concept of a camera running the Android OS, and the Korean manufacturer's early plans were the subject of more than one confidential briefing during a trip to Seoul earlier this year. Now that the wraps are off, the final specification is more or less in line with what we expected - a versatile, consumer-level camera running 'full strength' Android and equipped with both 3G/4G connectivity in addition to the now-standard (for Samsung) Wi-Fi. A 1.4GHz quad-core processor completes the picture and should provide enough 'grunt' to make everything run nice and smoothly. 

From the front, the Galaxy Camera's photographic lineage is obvious. An optically-stabilized 21X zoom lens (you have the option of controlling this via a conventional zoom rocker switch or via the touchscreen interface) and contoured handgrip denote a 'proper' camera.

The Galaxy Camera is a 16.3MP compact camera with a 4.8in LCD touchscreen running the Android operating system. It runs the latest iteration of Android (4.1 - known as 'Jelly Bean'), and will be available in two versions - a 3G + Wi-Fi model and a 4G + Wi-Fi variant (carrier and regional information TBC). This makes it the first 'connected camera' to offer more than just Wi-Fi connectivity.

Although we understand that the camera does not have cellular voice capabilities, it will be compatible with various VoiP apps, such as Skype, which will enable it to be used for making voice and video calls over 3G/4G or WiFi. Photographic features include a 21X zoom lens, spanning 23-481mm (equivalent) and a built-in 'Photo Wizard' for editing photographs in-camera. 

Months ago, in Seoul, we asked Samsung representatives how they envisaged smartphone/camera convergence: specifically, whether in the long-term the Korean manufacturer intended to expand the photographic capabilities of phones, or build smartphone features into cameras. At the time we received no clear answer. The fact that Samsung is calling this a 'Galaxy' product is interesting, but there's no mistaking that this is an enhanced camera, not the other way round.

Semantics aside, the Galaxy Camera is highly significant. It is the nearest thing we've seen to a true camera/phone hybrid, and as well as solid photographic specifications it contains a serious amount of DNA from Samsung's well-established line of smartphones. The key is the addition of a powerful processor, and 3G/4G connectivity. This means that just like a smartphone, the Galaxy Camera can connect to the web anywhere that there's mobile coverage, and should have enough power to run apps and browse the web without feeling sluggish. An 'Auto Cloud Backup' feature automatically saves images to Samsung's AllShare cloud storage service the moment they're taken - another benefit of 'always on' connectivity.

From the back, however, the Galaxy's massive display and three 'soft' buttons are classic Android OS. Gone are the usual buttons and dials that we'd expect on the rear of a Samsung compact camera.

Interestingly though, although the screen size is similar, the display on the back of the Galaxy Camera is an LCD unit, not the gorgeous AMOLED used in the Galaxy SIII. 

Likewise, the potential to send images captured with the Galaxy by email, or upload them directly to social network sites from pretty much anywhere is very appealing, and as Samsung knows very well, for a huge number of photographers working with mobile devices, this is already second nature. What these photographers aren't used to of course, is the sort of advanced photographic feature set that the Galaxy camera offers. In theory, this makes the Galaxy Camera an ideal first point-and-shoot for someone who's used to taking pictures on their phone, and wants to go further with photography. 

Of course, because the camera runs the open-source Android operating system this means that the camera's feature set can be expanded in the same way as any modern Android-based smartphone, via a huge number of third-party applications. We have some worries about battery life though - the Galaxy Camera's battery has roughly 50% greater capacity as the battery used in the WB850F, but around 25% less than the battery used in the Galaxy SIII, which isn't known for its stamina. Another big question mark - for now - is price. A significant amount of processing power is required to run a full smartphone OS - much more than would be necessary for a conventional compact camera - and it doesn't come cheap. At the time of writing, Samsung's pricing model, which may include carrier subsidies, is unknown. 

When we spoke to Sunhong Lim - VP Sales & Marketing in Samsung's Digital Imaging division back in March, he predicted that 'once the cloud computing era truly dawns, a non-connected device will be meaningless'. The Galaxy Camera is Samsung's surest step yet in this direction.

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vanessaelizebeth
By vanessaelizebeth (4 months ago)

The battery used in the Galaxy Camera is actually the same as the Galaxy S2.

http://www.mobilephonesreview.in/

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abi170845
By abi170845 (9 months ago)

My girlfriend would love this!

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Lexx81
By Lexx81 (9 months ago)

A month ago I was discussing with some friends on which will be the future improvements in digital cameras: I swear I told faster autofocus and in-camera editing like modern phones.... Than sony nex 5r and this one...

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paolopan83
By paolopan83 (9 months ago)

Cool. Maybe it is just a matter of time for camera and phones to become the same thing :)

The only doubt is the price... since it can't make phone calls I wouldn't spend more than 200euros on that, even if I guess many people will give higher value to this device.

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slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (9 months ago)

Seems that Samsung is just 'testing waters' with this product. It may get my attention as soon as it really is a smartphone and not just a smartcamera. And I actually expect decent sensor size and lens quality, otherwise it does not make sense.

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tim4321
By tim4321 (9 months ago)

While I am exciting at the creative possibilities of such integrated technology, I am pessimistically aware that the camera industry depends on stunting their technology in order to milk the consumer.

If the technology were faithfully integrated we would have a revolution in creative photography today - instead we have instagram.
Only now are we having perhaps in iOS 6 some possibility of controlling the iPhone's camera programmatically, as opposed to simple dumb post-processing and uploading.

It's depressing that this camera will probably not even allow this control to users or developers.

Manufacturers - we need cameras that are a faithful tool giving us utility according to the technology which is available now - not something to play the market, rationing features over the years to artificially differentiate products and feign innovation.

Today's photographers need today's technology to innovate and create new ways of seeing the world, and we are being held back by this :-(

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McCool69
By McCool69 (9 months ago)

>> It's depressing that this camera will probably not even allow this control to users or developers.

I think you have to look at the camera options on modern cell phones such as Samsung Galaxy S3 before you take a stand on these issues. The myriad of options it offers (which will no doubt be available on this camera as well) puts Apple to shame big time for their lacklustre implementation of camera-related tools in iPhone.

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notareal
By notareal (9 months ago)

I guess someone had to do a hands on comparison with Nokia 808 Pureview
http://unleashthephones.com/2012/09/01/samsung-galaxy-camera-vs-nokia-808-pureview-camera-samples/

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rondhamalam
By rondhamalam (10 months ago)

When are you going to stop innovating Samsung ?

Apple is left behind

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bikebum
By bikebum (10 months ago)

Why did they stop short of just making a phone? Just came back from a month long vacation and greece and didnt use my p&s once, just my galaxy s2 that was in my pocket anyhow with a local sim. The whole time i was asking myself why dont they just come out with a full blown phone-camera allready? Ide buy one... Guess ill have to keep on asking that question a little longer.

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BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (10 months ago)

Not surprised to see this. Don't think this actual model will change the world like the iPhone. But 2 things will happen. Apple will put a proper camera on the iPhone and camera brands will look at this Samsung concept. The next 10 years will be interesting for P&S cameras. Check out this parody film.

http://youtu.be/uIRBxRlsYR0

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billorg
By billorg (10 months ago)

Why is all of this connectivity starting with point and shoots only? Dslr cameras need it too, the eye-fi cards are really buggy, unreliable, Run HOT and are very yesterday. Bottom line is that we need to be able to instantly email a photo - sized as we choose on the fly as well as upload to our FTP and/or cloud space from anywhere. Not just upload to Facebook or other sharing and social sites - serious photographers need more than that. Some in-camera editing for the basics should be available also. Interfaces would obviously have to be modified to email easily. What is taking so long? The technology is very available and has been for a long time. I also think most people will not want to pay for a separate 3G acct - so it has to either be part of their existing 3G acct if they have one or just use wifi as a connection to not only the phone, but also directly to FTP space and email. The wifi NEX is ok but only let's you go through the phone to email which is clunky.

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

I totally agree. Unfortunately lots of DSLR-owners are a very conservative bunch of people that don't want change - even if it is a totally optional functionality that you don't have to use if you don't want to. Just look at all the hostile negativity towards something like being able to shoot live video with DSLRs when it appeared a few years ago.

Personally I would love to have functionallity like this Samsung camera has in my DSLR. I bet actual pros that take sports/press photography that needs to be delivered in smaller resolutions for web-use immediately would love it as well instead of stressing like they do today with uploading 'live' from their portable computers out in the field, causing them to potentially miss some action. Of course there are systems that more or less does this job today if you pay enough, but it adds a lot of bulk instead of having it embedded in the camera. And 3G/4G is a must - just wi-fi won't do.

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (10 months ago)

more than that this may cost 100s of dollar per camera to implement.

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Reg Natarajan
By Reg Natarajan (10 months ago)

All the naysayers here are going to look foolish when this Samsung hits the market with this and sells a zillion cameras. I'll be one of the zillion.

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Gesture
By Gesture (10 months ago)

Hopefully, the icons can be oriented in landscape or portrait mode.

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dylanbarnhart
By dylanbarnhart (10 months ago)

The revolution here isn't about adding more features to the camera. It's not even about communication, as Wi-Fi and Eye-Fi already do that.

It's about giving up control, from the camera manufacturer to the community.

What this means is that the photographer can decide what's on the camera and how it should work. That is done via selecting apps and customizing the apps. There will be camera apps for every type of photography, and for every skill level. Plus, there will be apps to accomplish things that couldn't be done easily before, or things that were only available on certain brands.

The programmer community will be able to have freedom with the hardware, without hacking nor side-loading. Gone is the criticism of why a camera manufacturer didn't include a certain feature. If you want a feature, download it.

The revolution already happened in the phone world, separating "smart phones" from "feature phones". Now it's time for "smart cameras", rather than "feature camera".

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (10 months ago)

Very well put! :)

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (10 months ago)

Im not at all certain that you will be able to create apps that allow different kinds of camera control

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Bill Bentley
By Bill Bentley (10 months ago)

Why not? Magic Lantern already does that on a Canon DSLR. How much easier to do something running Android. Isn't that the whole purpose of this camera anyway?

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dylanbarnhart
By dylanbarnhart (10 months ago)

I already see thousands of camera apps for Android. Go to play.google.com, search for "camera" and you'll see things like: Pudding Camera, Camera Fun Pro, Retro Camera, Cartoon Camera, Camera Illusion, Camera ZOOM FX, Night Vision Camera, Silent Camera, Lomo Camera, Camera Magic, UCam Ultra Camera, etc.

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (10 months ago)

yeah but they just use the standar camera and alter the image or give a different interface . i know of nothing in a mobile app that can control how the camera works

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (10 months ago)

I find this a little odd. Android is an OS for doing everything and the camera is a piece of hardware for a specific task. they dont seem to go together. I dont need to be able to play angry birds on my camera. Now if it replaced a mobile phone I would kind of get it. similar to the pureview. I wonder if a camera with wifi and some software for social sharing wouldnt be more logical

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metalized
By metalized (10 months ago)

I agree. It is overkill to use android. as the os. However, when i read that samsung joins the digital camera industry I know that one day it will merge both products. The ability to control and customize the work of the camera by using userimplantable/installable softwares is the next logical step that i can think of.

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

>> I wonder if a camera with wifi and some software for social sharing wouldnt be more logical

If you want to be stuck with how the camera manufacturers software is design and have no options then maybe.

The great thing about this is that you to a high degree can select exactly what apps you want to use for editing/sharing and so on, and not just be bound by what the manufacturer have included.

And surely a camera that can upload from everywhere that has a mobile connection (in addition to wi-fi) is superior in that respect to a wi-fi-only camera.

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (10 months ago)

actually know its not. the radio will bump the price significantly and i suspect that the amount of people who actually want a 3g/4g data plan for there camera are small. i actually thing the 3g 4g thing is a big miscalulation on samsungs part. I really thing that this issue is better addressed by a cell phone and camera interconnectivity

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metalized
By metalized (10 months ago)

yes. no need for 3g. and the os should allow an app to change how it works. e.g. changing white balance calculation, faster focusing algorithm, sharpening, resizing , compressing, dr enhancement, noise reduction algorithm, etc.

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Cheezr
By Cheezr (10 months ago)

the only thing that frightens me is the as yet unannounced price.
Galaxy SIII + compact is not going to be under $700, SIGH

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (10 months ago)

Typical case of "the next big thing".

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acidic
By acidic (10 months ago)

I wonder if one can "beam" images from the camera to a handset. No sense paying for another data plan if this capability exists and one is using an Android phone running 4.1.

The other option is to pay for a tethering plan for the handset (still cheaper than paying for an additional device), which will allow the camera to connect via wifi.

Because let's face it... very few people are going to use this in lieu of a phone. Those who do will be using Skype or GVoice or some other VoiP service app and a headset.

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David Zamora
By David Zamora (10 months ago)

If you purchase an Eye-fi SD card, you can do exactly that. Pair it to your phone, pop the card in any camera of your liking and let the magic happen. It creates an ad hoc WI FI connection directly to your phone and automatically transfers the images. I use one and it's pretty darn awesome. The best thing about it is that you're not limited to a specific camera. BTW, it only creates a WiFi connection once you've taken a new picture. It transfers the image/s to your phone, then disconnects the connection.

Certainly beats having to purchase a new camera...is on amazon for around $40 for the 4GB version.

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bryanhempstead
By bryanhempstead (10 months ago)

Quarter twenty mount?

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Essai
By Essai (10 months ago)

Well done Samsung (and Nikon). Cameras with a real OS and Wi Fi is the only way to go IMO.

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plasnu
By plasnu (10 months ago)

Compact camera market is dying. This is the sign of the end of low class camera brand like Samsung. Only high quality camera system will survive.

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rmbackus
By rmbackus (10 months ago)

I'm waiting until a camera has a laser-pointer, a luggage weigher and a makeup mirror in it :-)
Oops, almost forgot a tire pressure gauger...

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thejohnnerparty
By thejohnnerparty (10 months ago)

LOL. :-)

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (10 months ago)

yeah that is my thought

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RUcrAZ
By RUcrAZ (9 months ago)

No pen-knife, or screwdriver, however - the airlines won't stand for it!

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paulkienitz
By paulkienitz (10 months ago)

Any bets on how long it'll be before samsung sells a "Galaxy" television set?

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CyberAngel
By CyberAngel (8 months ago)

http://www.samsung.com/in/smarttv/#apps

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David Zamora
By David Zamora (10 months ago)

What I think will happen in the next couple years is that we will be seeing 3g/4g + wi-fi integrated cameras, but at no cost to the consumer. The camera companies know its silly ask consumers to pay for yet another data plan just for a camera. What I predict will happen is that camera companies will provide 3g/4g for free to the consumer, but the bandwidth will be throttled and the 'free' 3g/4g will most likely have ads on the screen when uploading to the phones 'social apps', eg. Face Book, Twitter, ETC. Similar to how Amazon offers free 3g on their ereaders (with ads).

I think this method will be common place within several years...and will make make way for some great photo sharing on social media sites as well. I'm pretty stoked as to where this is all going!

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Gkpm
By Gkpm (10 months ago)

Amazon doesn't do the 3G with ads. They take "download fees" from the money that authors get.

Amazon also recently restricted the 3G browsing. There's a 50MB limit now.

It's not a sustainable offer, just like even to this day you don't get free phone calls with your phone - ads or no ads.

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David Zamora
By David Zamora (10 months ago)

Good to know. But, either way, this method is going to happen one way or another. Just a matter of when the ball gets rolling.

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Suave
By Suave (10 months ago)

You don't need 3g/4g connection. All you need is an app which will turn your camera into a virtual microSD card. Then the phone can take the data from the camera over wi-fi and feed it into 4g. Sort of like WAP on rooted android phones but the other way around. I am sure that if say Samsung and AT@#$%#%T work together they can make it happen.

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paulkienitz
By paulkienitz (10 months ago)

More workable would be to set up some means of sharing your phone's account with your camera.

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David Zamora
By David Zamora (10 months ago)

@ Suave Actually, this already exists and I use it now. It's called the Eye-Fi card, with built in Wi Fi. After pairing it to your phone, any time you take a shot from your DSLR or point and shoot, it will immediately pair camera-to-phone via a private wifi connection and transfer the images. I use it all the time. I actually think it's great, and although it takes about a minute, it's still very convenient. But, if you could remove this bridge altogether between the camera and phone, and just put it ALL on the camera without having to rely on the phone, I think this would truly make photography a thing of the future. This takes one more step of workflow out of the picture > the phone. No waiting for the transfer, just immediately edit the photo on the camera (if needed), bring up the camera app for Facebook and upload. THAT is what will bring the consumers and photography to the next level of picture taking AND sharing.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

Almost all the new Kindles are wi-fi only. The phone connection idea was a good way to get people to buy books, but isn't really needed now that most people who have gadgets have wi-fi at home. For cameras, a data plan is more attractive because they are often used away from home.

But it won't be long before these have phones, too. It may be a clumsy phone, but not as clumsy as carrying both a phone and a camera. The Samsung Note is doing great and it is a huge phone/tiny tablet. I will probably get one (or similar) eventually. If I can have a decent camera in my chunky device, even better. Preferably somewhere between this Samsung and Nokia's high-res sensor.

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acidic
By acidic (10 months ago)

Why pay a separate data plan for a camera? Since most people will have their phones, they can turn that into a hotspot and connect the camera via wi-fi. Most carriers have such an option, though pricier than a single phone plan with no hotspot option (yet cheaper than paying data for two separate devices).

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

>> Why pay a separate data plan for a camera?

You guys really need to shake up the carriers in the US. Some of the limitations they have (in order to make money) is mind-boggling for us that live in other countries.

Where I live (Norway) I can tether any device to my cell phone via wi-fi to get access to the internet and don't have to pay a cent for making that connection in itself.

And if I have a second or third device (typically a tablet - or maybe a camera like this) I pay USD 5 extra a month for an extra simcard and it all runs on my main phone account without any extra charges than that small monthly fee.

Of course any data traffic generated by the tethered devices or devices that use a second or third sim card is paid in the same way as if the phone itself generated the traffic.

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svegress
By svegress (10 months ago)

I have been using a Galaxy SII for about six months now as my main camera. The best feature is that because it looks like a phone, no one takes much notice of you even if you have your camera pointing directly at them. For candid photos it has worked a treat. And I have found the software apps excellent and evolving. I do three shot HDR, timelase, all kinds off effects and even cropping. As I come within range of a wifi, it starts automatically uploading my photos to Google+ ready for me to send.
Where it fails is in the mechanics of the camera itself. Although better than an iPhone, it still has a large pink tinge at the centre of the each shot--you only notice it against a strong white background. When you are taking photos for publication this is a serious matter. Any camera/phone combo is going to be flawed at the current level of technology but what we have in this seems to be the best available at present.
Question: how much and what is the battery life?.

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hladacik
By hladacik (10 months ago)

Canon 1D X with Android??? :-)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151010435060995&set=a.383999600994.168661.106593340994&type=1&theater

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Kiefmo
By Kiefmo (10 months ago)

Oh wow... my Instagram photos are going to look SO good now [joking]!

Anyway, this is the next logical step from wi-fi cameras, right? Instead of bieng limited to available, open wi-fi networks, you're connected [potentially] anywhere.

This is how camera manufacturers take amateur photography back from cell phones -- by offering the ability to instantly share in a manner with which they are already familiar?

Downsides? Effing data plan costs to take advantage of the camera's capabilities -- although, if I had this thing, I'd go back to a cheap just-a-phone and make this my only "smart" device. I wonder if it will be available with radios for all carriers.

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camillako
By camillako (10 months ago)

gentlemen, this is the future.

all cameras will have to be "connected" in the very same manner as they all now have video mode.

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Greg Gebhardt
By Greg Gebhardt (10 months ago)

Is there a phone built in? LOL!

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Thomas Hnig
By Thomas Hnig (10 months ago)

Simply add a motion detector as trigger and it gets a game camera with dircet upload. And because images could be saved immediately out of reach of the triggering subject it seems perfect for burglar alarm and capture.

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (10 months ago)

Cant understand what Nikon and Samsung want to do with this, if they are serious then why don't they put a phone in it............

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walkerr
By walkerr (10 months ago)

You're joking right?

.... a 3G + Wi-Fi model and a 4G + Wi-Fi variant (carrier and regional information TBC) ....

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PJInTheUSA
By PJInTheUSA (10 months ago)

Yes but no phone. i.e. no voice capability only data. That is strange.

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Essai
By Essai (10 months ago)

strange ??? Its a camera, not a phone ! You want your camera to be ON all the time ? Not me. I barely make 2 days on a charge with my S3

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

The camera part wouldn't be on all the time. There would be no significant effect on battery life when you weren't taking pictures, and not much more then than using it for apps.

Displays still use the great majority of the power. Even with an efficient OLED display, over 80% of the juice of my phone goes to the display. I like the rgbw display idea Sony uses. It can give both increased brightness outdoors and improved efficiency. The idea is old, but was never widely used. Probably because it only applies to LCD displays and the companies all figured we'd have migrated to OLED by now. Too bad they aren't bright enough for direct sunlight.

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walkerr
By walkerr (10 months ago)

Maybe not a phone in conventional sense - but if it has 3g/4g and Android you have Skype, numerous VoIP solutions (which actually I find better than Skype), plus WhatsApp (which I also prefer to SMS).

Conventional phone - no - phone of the future, maybe IMO

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OutdoorArt
By OutdoorArt (10 months ago)

Has no one heard of VOIP? That's all I use on my gs2.

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JohnnyWashngo
By JohnnyWashngo (10 months ago)

This is the future of photography and I am looking forward to giving it a go.

Bravo to Samsung for seeing that Cameras need to be Internet connected in order to move forward. They are not the first to do so, but I reckon they will be the first to actually pull it off with any real success.

The Android OS is proving to a real jack of all trades and I think OEM manufacturers are really benefiting from the cost savings made by not having to develop their own OSes as well as the developer ecosystem that Android provides. As an Android developer myself, I can't wait to start writing code for a camera :)

As much as I love my 5DM3, and I do love it very much, I would love to have a decent, pocketable camera that I can snaps shots with and upload to my GDrive or SkyDrive or whatever. How long until Android OS makes its way into more professional cameras?

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EasyClick
By EasyClick (10 months ago)

I agree. This is the future of cameras but not entirely convinced about using Android as operating system. For me, it would just be wifi/3G connectivity to upload to an account. I think innovations will have to come from connectivity and integration.

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GMart
By GMart (10 months ago)

Nikon will be raging.....lol

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (10 months ago)

So you aim for a nice shot, have the subject in focus, and someone calls you at that very moment and your reminder goes off too — the camera darkens the screen, starts ringing and vibrating, pops out a few dialogues:
-Answer
-Cancel
-OK
-Reschedule appointment
-Focus again
-Cancel the shot
-Text the model
And the answering machine in camera activates: "You have reached the camera of Mr Joe Photographer. He is currently experiencing some difficulties, so leave your aperture number and bu**er off by the fastest shutter speed possible".

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twadger
By twadger (10 months ago)

Might as well stick a phone in it and have done, with Apple's permission of course......

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Justin Francis
By Justin Francis (10 months ago)

Nikon can't seem to do anything right lately.

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qwertyasdf
By qwertyasdf (10 months ago)

Their DSLRs are top class
Their P&S are POS

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (10 months ago)

O and Samsung makes world class P&S ?...LOL

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kff
By kff (10 months ago)

apparently the first step before it dares to give more professional machines, I applaud JB, Nikon obviously does not understand that it depends on OS ... API allows to control if really all camera parameters and lens external programs, we can not wait to see huge steps in the development and user features of sw ... otherwise the sensor is small, not only in this Nokia is on, but let's take it just as a first step, if it starts an interest in the development of new software and designing new features outside of the manufacturer, eg in a stacked macro from multiple exposures are certain possibilities etc.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (10 months ago)

This looks like one really fun camera. A super compact. Take a picture and be able to play around with it right away. [With better IQ than your smartphone] Whether you're waiting at a bus stop. Or when you're bored at some lecture. No waiting until you get back to your computer. And . . . once you're done playing with the picture, why not upload it right away. What's not to like? It's a camera that can keep up with you.

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Nic Walmsley
By Nic Walmsley (10 months ago)

Sorry for the sexual metaphor, but it is the easiest way to explain

I want the love child of an iPhone, an XZ-1, and an Olympus Tough. Don't care if it is chunky.

Apple or Olympus, please make one.

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gl2k
By gl2k (10 months ago)

Now see. Samsung manages to make the latest Android version run on their newest product. Nikon couldn't. (Nikon Coolpix S800c = Android 2.3)

But ... while the idea of a modern strongly internet connected camera is nice in some way it competes with all the smartphones out there. I'm afraid it will loose that competition.

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Suave
By Suave (10 months ago)

It might, but I think - let's have them a go at it.

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MichaelEchos
By MichaelEchos (10 months ago)

If the next generation allows call just like smart phones, while making it thinner, it could appeal to many people. Having a control ring and an extra function button works well too. If they could extend the grip to the thickness of the lens (which increases the size of the battery too), then it would be much more usable. There doesn't seem to be a way to insert a neck/hand strap either. Increase the aperture/sensor size, decrease the zoom range.

But there's nothing much we could complain. It is currently the best phone+camera hybrid in the market.

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J R R S
By J R R S (10 months ago)

Yes but this is just the start...

get android behind a big sensor and some good glass - and you will even be able to see the future!

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yudhir
By yudhir (10 months ago)

I like this: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2009/09/29/samsungamoled12m
Camera More

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (10 months ago)

This is proof that we live in a era of smart phones and stupid people

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swhs
By swhs (10 months ago)

And yet another infantile meaningless comment. I have not seen anything useful from you ever. In one of your comments below you whine about the USSR, you whine again about 'Samsuck'. Moderators: Please ban this troll!

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Nic Walmsley
By Nic Walmsley (10 months ago)

stupid people can't use smart phones, maybe

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (10 months ago)

I have been banned and 75% of the comment here are infantile and meaningless just like this camera/phone, likewise I have never seen anything remotely intelligent come out of your mouth swhs

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plasnu
By plasnu (10 months ago)

Smart phone means the phone is smarter than its user.

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swhs
By swhs (10 months ago)

> likewise I have never seen anything remotely intelligent come out of your mouth swhs

Mods, please ban this moron.

And FYI Boerseuntjie, your view about my writings is of no value whatsoever.

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robjons
By robjons (10 months ago)

Every Samsung product I have ever used has had stupidly illogical UI. That plus mediocre quality and their blatant rip off of other companies (Apple of course) is enough to never come near one of their products. Have some integrity, look elsewhere.

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kevin camera
By kevin camera (10 months ago)

i guess this camera phone was a straight rip-off from apple, just like the galaxy note :D

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normansun123
By normansun123 (10 months ago)

Robjons,
You are seriously pathetic.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (10 months ago)

The Apple Freakshow is about to be started, folks.

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robjons
By robjons (10 months ago)

Pathetic because I have an opinion about a company’s poorly thought-out products? I ‘m no apologist for Apple (except I do appreciate Job’s product integrity attitude as opposed to most U.S. CEOs who can’t see past next year’s P&L statement). But regardless of what you think of Apple, Samsung still has all the creativity of a herd of sheep.

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Suave
By Suave (10 months ago)

You do know that with minimal technical knowledge you can put pretty much whatever UI you might want on any Samsung android device?

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Caleido
By Caleido (10 months ago)

I guess very very few people share your opinion. This camera is equipped with the latest version of the most popular and most sold smartphone OS on the planet.
And don't get us started on your claim that Samsung copies everything. How you can shout about Samsung not being creative in a comment about a product that is the first of its kind, is completely ridiculous.

I guess companies suing others for having smartphones with round corners - even if everyone else already produced smartphones with round corners before that - has more integrity in your view?

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OutdoorArt
By OutdoorArt (10 months ago)

It is rectangular with rounded corners.

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Koulang
By Koulang (10 months ago)

Extremely interesting!

I wish to see a higher class camera from Samsung with equivalent sensor to the mirroless camera.

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57even
By 57even (10 months ago)

Funny, we use the word "phone" now to mean a small tablet computer that makes calls. The "phone" part is just one of many features (which ironically this camera doesn't have).

Someone really needs to redefine the category because "phone" doesn't really cut it and Galaxy Phone/Camera/Tablet is really a brand name. We need a generic name for devices which are cloud connected.

I'm all for convergence myself, but I can also see the need and advantage in specialised tools as well. I don't really agree with Sunhong Lim. You only need one "cloud hub" which could be a tablet or a smartphone, and connect to it via USB or wifi or bluetooth.

However it seems that the P&S is not going to be replaced by smart phones after all. Rather the two will converge into a single device. This is going to really challenge those companies with no imaging patents....let me see....who may they be?

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Johannes Zander
By Johannes Zander (10 months ago)

Phocata
Tacafo
Catafo
???

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historianx
By historianx (10 months ago)

ruh roh it's white lawyers on the ready...

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NeilBart
By NeilBart (10 months ago)

Good device for business use. This full specification camera combined with image, text and data capture using Mobile Data Studio will be excellent for home inspections, safety audits, graffiti logging, environmental surveys, person ID and similar mobile data requirements where smartphone cameras are often weak. Well done Samsung.

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

Indeed - it can even be set up to automatically upload the photos to cloud-based services like DropBox.

I think this is the first step of a natural progression; even pro photographers that does press work would surely prefer to do a quick crop and rough adjustments out in the field - and then send it to the editor 30 secs after taking the shot - without doing the extra step of having to transfer the photo(s) to their portable PC first.

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Ocean View
By Ocean View (10 months ago)

This is innovating on top of existing ideas and technology.
Screw you Apple!
I'm definitely gonna get this camera to replace my P&S camera.

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Jun2
By Jun2 (10 months ago)

The backside looks remarkably similar to iphone. Sue Samsung again, Apple please. haha.

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Rooru S
By Rooru S (10 months ago)

Yeah, right, because any apple product has 3 touch buttons under the display. Yeah... (a lot of crap comments over here just because Samsung lost a battle in US soil...)

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (10 months ago)

What, Apple? Are they still in business?

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Wye Photography
By Wye Photography (10 months ago)

Where have you been Francis - in Prison? Apple rule the planet. Welcome to Apple World.

At least the Samsung/Apple battle is the only battle the Americans can win nowadays (not including Alien invasions (and I don't mean Mexicans there either)).

Jesting aside, no doubt the Solicitors are revving up again! Something innovative and original from Samsung! I wonder how badly it will bomb. I mean if you are a smart phone photographer why buy another piece of tech? I suppose, smart phone in one pocket this camera in the other. Two pockets - makes sense!

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (10 months ago)

I think this must be America's tactic to pay off its huge debt. Patent the mundane and obvious and sue foreign companies in its home courts with local juries with predictable outcomes.

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Charlie Jin
By Charlie Jin (10 months ago)

Good for Android users.
But I am sort of tied to Apple. I already bought so many
picture editing/filter Apps, and have more than 60 such apps
in my collection for my iPad and iPhone. Now, I rarely need to
use PhotoShop, since apps in iOS are so diverse. I only need to
know which apps can do which better.

I wish Apple also come up with iCamera or something like that.
The only thing I can do now is I use Sony RX100 with Eye-Fi and
transfer the images to my iPhone and iPad.
Too bad that most apps in iOS don't support the high resolution
images yet :-(

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McCool69
By McCool69 (10 months ago)

Good points - and you are pointing out the exact reason why it makes a lot of sense to base a 'real' camera on a mobile OS. It gives you access to a wealth of options and apps connected to photography and movie recording instead of having to work with just the camera makers often limited software.

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