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Sigma USA announces price and availability of DP2 Merrill

By dpreview staff on Jun 29, 2012 at 05:00 GMT

Sigma USA has announced the price and availability of its DP2 Merrill large sensor, fixed lens 14.6x3MP camera. The DP2 M will be available from July 12th at an estimated street price of $999 (this being the price you're likely to pay, rather than the sometimes fanciful MSRP figures). The DP2 M is major step forward for the DP2 concept, featuring a larger, APS-C sized Foveon sensor, high resolution, 921k dot LCD and a newly-developed telecentric 30mm F2.8 lens, giving a 45mm equivalent field of view.


Press Release:

Sigma Corporation announces pricing and availability of Sigma DP2 Merrill

New generation compact camera to hit US shelves in July for street price of $999

Ronkonkoma, NY, June 29, 2012 – Sigma Corporation of America (www.sigmaphoto.com), a leading researcher, developer, manufacturer and service provider for some of the world's most impressive lines of lenses, cameras and flashes, has announced that the Sigma DP2 Merrill compact digital camera will be available in the United States on July 12 for the street price of $999.

This upgraded, high-resolution, compact digital camera with a fixed lens is named in honor of Richard “Dick” Merrill, the co-creator of the Foveon X3 Direct Image Sensor technology that powers Sigma’s unique lineup of cameras. It differs from its predecessor, the DP2x, because its resolution has grown by moving from Foveon’s 14.6-megapixel APS-C size image sensor to the 46-megapixel APS-C image sensor found in the company’s flagship SLR, the Sigma SD1 Merrill. The full-color Foveon X3 direct image sensor ensures outstanding resolution, richly gradated tones and images with a three-dimensional feel. A focus ring and custom Quick Set (QS) mode also improve the user interface.

“We are very proud of the engineering and design involved in the upgrade of the DP2 Merrill, and we are especially pleased to honor Dick Merrill with its name,” said Mark Amir-Hamzeh, president of Sigma Corporation of America. “The addition of the 46-megapixel sensor and the continued use of Foveon’s unique three-layer design results in images that can’t be reproduced by other cameras on today’s market.”

The Sigma DP2 Merrill boasts an exclusively designed, high-performance, telecentric 30mm F2.8 lens, which is the equivalent to a 45mm lens on a 35mm SLR camera. The camera is compact and lightweight, and has Super Multi Layer Coating to reduce flare and ghosting.

Other features of the Sigma DP2 Merrill camera include:

  • A dual, three-layer responsive ultimate (TRUE II) engine that now incorporates two TRUE II processors to improve the processing speed and overall quality of the final image
  • RAW and JPEG format recording to retain the full image detail of the utmost quality captured through the direct image sensor, as well as a JPEG recording format for convenience
  • Sigma Photo Pro processing software to convert RAW data quickly and easily
  • Manual focus for use when autofocus or focus-lock is not desired
  • Easy-to-use auto focus with a “nine-point select mode” which can select the desired focusing point from nine different frames, and a “free move mode” that allows shooters to select their desired focusing point
  • An advanced user interface complete with a custom QS menu and the metallic command dial to improve usability
  • Continuous shooting capabilities to capture up to seven RAW images per sequence
  • A large, highly visible, three-inch TFT color LCD monitor for great visibility
  • A hot shoe for the use of the dedicated external flashgun EF-140 DG (optional)
  • Movie mode for movie recording with VGA (640×480) size, with 30 shooting frames per second

For information about Sigma Corporation of America or information about the companies cameras and lenses, visit www.sigmaphoto.com.

Comments

Total comments: 257
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audijam
By audijam (Jun 29, 2012)

most kids hate sigma because it's not a "legit" brand like canon and nikon, and, of course they haven't even seen an image produced by sigma camera. somehow the same kids can comment on how their dream cars ferraris/lambos can perform but sadly they haven't even seen one in real life.

well...having that said...i won't pay $999 for this either....but i would pay 999 for SD1m...that camera is SICK!!!

2 upvotes
sesopenko
By sesopenko (Jun 29, 2012)

I had the sd2 and loved the colours but didn't like the field of view and resolution. The dp1m seems to solve all of that. I will be begging the wife to let me get the dp1m when it's released.

1 upvote
tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 29, 2012)

"most kids" dislike Sigma's cameras because they house excellent low ISO quality in a camera that has slow/clunky operation and focus with terrible high ISO performance.

Comparing it to a Ferrari is pretty funny. This would be like a Ferrari that has a 2 second 0-60, but then tops out at 81MPH and takes 3 miles to brake. Hard to get excited about one headline feature when the rest of the camera is a sacrifice.

0 upvotes
viking79
By viking79 (Jun 29, 2012)

A lot of people shoot only at base ISO, and the Sigma cameras are excellent at lower ISO settings. Not everyone needs a fast performing camera in terms of shot to shot speed, etc. Sigma does have their own niche market.

5 upvotes
tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 29, 2012)

Sure, but we are talking minutely better low ISO performance, for markedly worse all around performance and high ISO noise. I can see the appeal for a very small group of photographers, but Sigma is choosing to leave 95% of potential sales on the table by making cameras like this. At least when Leica does it they make $5000 per camera instead of likely the same margins as Nikon and Canon.

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 30, 2012)

sesopenko:

"SD2"? (And yes, I know there's a 2008 typo on the Adorama website.)

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 30, 2012)

tkbslc:

Foveon colour is not minutely better at low ISOs--all this claim proves is that you haven't extracted low ISO Foveon raws.

Leica makes $5000 per body sold? Can you back that up for cameras other than the S2?

Now one of the things about colour is the lens. A Nikon D3s does much better colour with a Zeiss lens than with a Nikon lens, for example.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (Jun 29, 2012)

I don't see huge lines in wait for this camera, says my crystal ball. Despite any good sounding specs or marketing.

C

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 30, 2012)

Similar claims are made about the Leica M9.

0 upvotes
JesperMP
By JesperMP (Jun 29, 2012)

If the results of the SD1 can be transferred over to DP2 merril, then we should expect this:
Fenomonal resolution. Nearly as good as D800 and 645D. Depends on if the fixed lens is good enough of course.
Awful High-ISO performance.
And "Exceptional image quality at low ISO, especially in Raw mode" (DPR words from the SD1 review).

Think about that, for a year ago Sigma asked near 10000 USD for this, now it can be had for 1/10 of that ! I know, with a fixed lens, but nevertheless something to think about.

A special camera that is no good for what other cameras can do, but can do something that no other camera can do.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 29, 2012)

I normally don't play spelling cop, but "Fenomenal"? Really?

1 upvote
viking79
By viking79 (Jun 29, 2012)

Also, the fixed lens is very good. Many Sony NEX users think it is the best native E mount lens available :) I think the one in the Foveon sensor version has one more element too, likely correction related to the different sensor, so it might even perform better on the foveon.

2 upvotes
JesperMP
By JesperMP (Jun 29, 2012)

tkbslc,
english is not my native language.
In my language it is "fænomenal".

0 upvotes
tkbslc
By tkbslc (Jun 29, 2012)

Alright, I apologize, Jesper. I normally don't stoop to spelling police level, but I am a bit cranky today with little sleep. Please forgive me for forgetting we aren't all native speakers.

2 upvotes
JesperMP
By JesperMP (Jun 29, 2012)

No problem tkbslc

0 upvotes
neo_nights
By neo_nights (Jun 29, 2012)

Sigma is the new Leica now? (amazing and overpriced cameras)

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 29, 2012)

The Leica S2 is overpriced compare to what? All of the other medium format camera/lens systems which cost more?

If you mean the M9, name another full frame digital range finder?

If you mean the lenses, well they're expensive, but unmatched for colour and sharpness.

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neo_nights
By neo_nights (Jun 29, 2012)

What about other Leica cameras that are, basically, Panasonic rebadged cameras? Also, even if the M9 is umatched for being the only FF ranger finder camera, it doesn't offer basic things like 920k LCD screen and so on...

1 upvote
Nishi Drew
By Nishi Drew (Jun 29, 2012)

Yes, Leica has a full frame sensor, but is it anygood?
Sigma's sensor on the other hand, something to look forward to.

2 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 29, 2012)

neo_nights:

Yawn.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 29, 2012)

Nishi Drew:

The sensor in the M9 is good through ISO 800 to 1000. Yes really.

Why "look forward to"? You can get the same sensor in the SD1 Merrill today.

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Cipher
By Cipher (Jun 29, 2012)

No...not quite like a Leica. Sigma is just over-priced cameras with a lot of negatives.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jul 1, 2012)

Cipher:

And the Sigmas/Foveons have some real positives--not the same positives as Leicas though.

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magneto shot
By magneto shot (Jun 29, 2012)

finally, sigma...the ultimate IQ camera in a pocketable size.
Finally! congrats.

3 upvotes
Elaka Farmor
By Elaka Farmor (Jun 29, 2012)

Is the resoultion 46MP or 14.6MP?
Must be 14.6 because the final size is 4,800×3,200....hmmm.

0 upvotes
Johan Borg
By Johan Borg (Jun 29, 2012)

It's 14.6MP but with the color detail of a 46MP. In practice it is comparable to a 30MP as explained here:http://www.dpreview.com/news/2010/10/05/Sigmainterview

3 upvotes
D Cox
By D Cox (Jun 29, 2012)

It is 14.6MP, but a Bayer sensor that claims 15MP is really at best 5MP.

So if you are going to multiply one by three, you should multiply the other.

0 upvotes
solarsky
By solarsky (Jun 29, 2012)

DP2Merrill sample photos are online at http://www.sigma-dp.com/DP2Merrill/samplephoto.html

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solarsky
By solarsky (Jun 29, 2012)

DP2Merrill sample photos are online at http://www.sigma-dp.com/DP2Merrill/samplephoto.html Update: The sample JPEGs appear to be a mix of Sigma Photo Pro v5.3.0.0000, v5.3.0.0001, v5.3.0.0003, and v.5.3.1.001-processed, then two in-camera-JPEGs and and some (adjusted/stupidly downsampled?) RAW-output from Adobe Photoshop Elements v9. Some are quite artificially low-res, others are incredible. Quite a re:Dick_ulously mixed PR-stunt... again...

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Sergey Borachev
By Sergey Borachev (Jun 29, 2012)

For $999, I can get a camera that has IQ close to the best APS-C DSLRs, a really good EVF plus a tilting touch screen, focuses really fast, that can take many lenses from ultra wide to long tele, zooms and macros, super fast lenses and some lenses with the highest optical quality, and it also has very swift operations, high FPS, nice IQ up to ISO 3200, a very effective IS, lots of controls and dials, function buttons, better ergonomics but still reasonably small, and also alloy body, weather proofing, really quiet shutter, effective face detection, picture taking data in the viewfinder, lots of accessories ... and even good looks and fantastic reviews.

Should I give up all the above to get the superior Foveon IQ that I might get sometimes when the right conditions arrive with the right scenery that fits a 45mm FOV, and also have enough light and calm subjects for shooting at the low ISO necessary for that nice IQ? and work around all the other frustrating limitations in this DP2M?

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SRHEdD
By SRHEdD (Jun 29, 2012)

I love my OM-D too!

2 upvotes
Tom Zimmer
By Tom Zimmer (Jun 29, 2012)

As an owner of several Sigma cameras, the answer to your question for some of us is a resounding Yes!

10 upvotes
JohnLindroth
By JohnLindroth (Jun 29, 2012)

Sergey - you would not buy this as a general purpose carry around camera, so the answer to your question is no. But if you like the focal length, and want a special purpose camera that is small - you might want to get one. It's like most Sigma cameras...

3 upvotes
Sergey Borachev
By Sergey Borachev (Jun 29, 2012)

Thanks, John. I see. Horses for courses. This camera might be just what is needed for those who already have 3 other nice cameras to cover other needs and still have money to spend. Cheers. Unfortunately, I am not in that position.

3 upvotes
Pr0peller
By Pr0peller (Jun 30, 2012)

Real photographers do not wait for the scene to fill the FOV, and all the other preposterous conditions you list. There are people who like to work on their pics. Like the aficionados of the Rollei 35, where all settings are manual, including the focusing distance. Which BTW the Sigma DP looks very much alike.

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solarsky
By solarsky (Jul 4, 2012)

For 1000$ you don't get a Nikon D800. Nough said.

1 upvote
HBowman
By HBowman (Jun 29, 2012)

When you look at the sample you see why this camera is a master piece. No camera give me this feeling. truly amazing.

5 upvotes
iudex
By iudex (Jun 29, 2012)

The price is not that exaggerated as the DP1 price, however no big deal regarding what it offers. Fixed focal length fixed lens, no VF, no grip, useless video mode... and for 1000 bucks. No, thank you. The X100 seems to be a much better choice.
I did not see any printed pictures made by Foveon sensor, from what I can see online I am not enchanted; the standard comparison picture from SD1 test here on DPR showed Foveon is no miracle: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sigmasd1/18
The idea itself (large sensor compact) is great, this one seems to be a camera for very specific situations and only for people who really want a Foveon sensor.

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marike6
By marike6 (Jun 29, 2012)

Have a look at these:
http://www.sigma-sd.com/SD1/sample-photo/index.html

1 upvote
iudex
By iudex (Jun 29, 2012)

Of course the pictures are great... they are all at ISO 100/200. Even my compact S100 makes nice pictures at ISO 100. My previous link showed ISO 1600, where the pictures looked two classes below it´s competition (faded colours, noisy...)

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marike6
By marike6 (Jun 29, 2012)

Yes but at low ISO the Foveon cameras produce more than nice pictures. The absence of artifacts that you get with Bayer sensor cameras give the Sigma images something special. At base ISO it's probably the cleanest, most beautiful IQ I've ever seen.

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magneto shot
By magneto shot (Jun 29, 2012)

iudex, view it at 100%. there is nothing like foveon images at 100. i own the leica m9, GXR and nikon dslr, there is just nothing like foveon, first time viewing it u be shocked at the sharpness no matter how u pixel peep.

4 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 29, 2012)

iudex:

So I take it you didn't bother to find landscape 200 ISO Sigma SD1 raws and extract the raws yourself (the software is free to anybody, it can be difficult to use, but try it and you'll see what excites people about Foveon images.)

Hope Sigma fixes the mess that is the raw extraction software, or Adobe adds this camera to ACR 7.xxx.

0 upvotes
iudex
By iudex (Jun 29, 2012)

@howaboutraw: I do not challenge the beauty of ISO100/200 shots at all. But you must admit that at ISO 1600 (pretty usual) it cannot compete with the best APSC DSLRs´. And you do not shoot solely landscapes at ISO 100, do you?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 29, 2012)

iudex:

Right the SD1 is unusable above ISO 800.

But ISO 800 is about where colour film stops being useable too.

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Cipher
By Cipher (Jun 29, 2012)

Once again. Sigma preys on the gullible Sigma fanatics who will pay almost any price for the "foveon" look.

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 29, 2012)

Don't think a lot of people paid for the SD1 look at the original price.

People sure like the DP2, DP2s, DP2x though.

1 upvote
FTW
By FTW (Jun 29, 2012)

999$, revert the number and say 666$ and then we come close to what it could be worth to pay for it. Somebody probably had a mirror when they made the price.

0 upvotes
AmateurSnaps
By AmateurSnaps (Jun 29, 2012)

Too slow (2.8) and too expensive for what it is.

Other than that it looks like it will be a great little camera. Its basically the direction I wish others would take, that is to concentrate on image quality and stop with all the daft gimmicks that the market seems to be inundated with.

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Helena777
By Helena777 (Jun 29, 2012)

:D

Again...

(the first clip apply for this post, the rest are for fun)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koE_e_LX4c0&feature=related

C'mon Sigma, ONE BIG facepaaalm!!

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HBowman
By HBowman (Jun 29, 2012)

This thing rip off the 5D MKIII IQ.

HAIL SIGMA !!!!!!

4 upvotes
ponyman
By ponyman (Jun 29, 2012)

I've just pre-ordered an RX100. To be honest I would really prefer this DP2M - I'm not going to be using 99% of the gizmos on the Sony. But ultimately I fear of the Sigma's lack of speed speed would be a frustration for me - it's also bigger than I would really like my pocket camera to be. Converting the $ to £ as tends to happen means that the Sigma would be nearly twice the price of the Sony (and Sony are currently offering 6 months interest free tick here, which also helps - not a likely option on the Sigma). I will however be interested in the reviews of the Sigma which I shall no doubt secretly covert. Hope I won't regret getting the RX100.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jun 29, 2012)

I'm in the same boat. Though I think I am going to have to bit the bullet and get the Sigma instead, I just know that I would regret not getting and getting the RX100 instead (though that definitely looks to be an amazingly good allround camera).

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iudex
By iudex (Jun 29, 2012)

I think you made no mistake: much more versatile and pocketable camera for almost half of the price.

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iudex
By iudex (Jun 29, 2012)

I think you made no mistake: much more versatile and pocketable camera for almost half of the price.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Jun 29, 2012)

ponyman:

Did you order a battery charger with that Sony RX100, oh wait...

Sure the Sony is a better all around pocket camera than the Sigma. That's not why people would be purchasing the Sigma.

1 upvote
Lillrobert
By Lillrobert (Jun 29, 2012)

What, no facebook integration with GPS positioning, no smile recognition and no polaroid effect. What are you supposed to do with this camera? Taking pictures???

23 upvotes
Zebooka
By Zebooka (Jun 29, 2012)

And no autoposting to instagram

3 upvotes
Sergey Borachev
By Sergey Borachev (Jul 1, 2012)

"What are you supposed to do with this camera?"

Patience/perseverance training? Anger management?

1 upvote
Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Jun 29, 2012)

who will buy this over the sony RX100?
i am not that´s for sure.....

sigma should do a reality check before announcing prices.

will this be another slow and cumbersome sigma camera?

you know... a good camera is more then a fancy sensor....

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sirkhann
By sirkhann (Jun 29, 2012)

RX100 is for snapshots
DP2m is for photography

Image quality between both is beyound comparison

9 upvotes
Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Jun 29, 2012)

well of course you have tested both... go home and come back when you have some substantial infos.

your telling the same nonsens your read on the internet.
but if i show you two prints you could not say what is taken with a FF or a APS-C camera.

beyond comparison.... yeah sure.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml

5 upvotes
AngryCorgi
By AngryCorgi (Jun 29, 2012)

DP2m is for bright light photgraphic only. Unless you like posterized shadow roll-off and green/purple splotches in skin tones.

1 upvote
sirkhann
By sirkhann (Jun 29, 2012)

Gothmoth - you have never printed any of photos, right?

1 upvote
abortabort
By abortabort (Jun 29, 2012)

I am already definitely considering it. I was about to replace all my mirrorless cams with the RX100, but based on the (finally) announced pricing, I will probably get the DP2M.

IQ wise (not low light) this will be pretty hard to beat below a FF. Then consider it's size.

3 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Jun 29, 2012)

Someone wanting the superb IQ in a fairly compact body. I'm not sure if you've seen any SD1 images, but you should. The DP2m will be a mini SD1.

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Dave Oddie
By Dave Oddie (Jun 29, 2012)

@sirkhann

"RX100 is for snapshots
DP2m is for photography"

what an idiotic thing to post.

I am sure we will see examples of fine photography from the RX100 and plenty of snapshots from the DP2m and vice-versa

2 upvotes
dotyman
By dotyman (Jun 29, 2012)

I suppose calling it the DP2 "Dick" was out of the question...

8 upvotes
Alanis
By Alanis (Jun 29, 2012)

14 and a bit megapixels. VGA size movies. Fixed lens, fixed focal length. The only redeeming factor may, I say may, be that the lens is decent.
Welcome to 2008.

4 upvotes
sirkhann
By sirkhann (Jun 29, 2012)

It is for photographers, not techno-toy-lovers. Go buy yourself a new MacBook Pro.

16 upvotes
Hobbit13
By Hobbit13 (Jun 29, 2012)

The old version had 14.6MP, this is the "Meril" with a whopping 46MP sensor. This thing can make photos with detail comparable to the Nikon D800! (I agree that apart from the IQ / Size ratio @ISO100, there's not much to like)

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Felix E Klee
By Felix E Klee (Jun 29, 2012)

14 and a bit megapixels? Err, no. It has 15.4 million red pixels, 15.4 million green pixels, and 15.4 million blue pixels. Compare that to a Nikon D800, which has 18.1 million million green pixels, but just 9.1 million red and 9.1 million blue pixels.

The Sigma doesn't interpolate like Bayer sensor based cameras, though. Therefore the difference in output resolution.

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Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Jun 29, 2012)

well about the difference in output resolution, we all know by now that the difference is nowhere near a factor 3x compared to a bayer sensor.

if you still believe that.... i have a bridge to sell......

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Alanis
By Alanis (Jun 29, 2012)

sirkhann, I have no doubt the the camera in a new MacBook will produce better snapshots than this peculiar and archaic niche market object. So, as you say, it's for photographers. I'm sure all the commercial pros will be snapping them up.

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Zebooka
By Zebooka (Jun 29, 2012)

This cam does not have 15 MP of each color.
It has 15 MP of colored pixels. THis is different. Not to mention that Jpeg will ruin all microcontast of single pixels after compression and that Foveon sucks much at hi iso. Thouse coloury MEGA pixels become dirty megapixels at say 1600 iso.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jun 29, 2012)

Alanis - Yep sure the 'retina' camera in the 'retina' MacBook will definitely trounce this! Sure!

Let not forget when the SD1 was launched a bit over a year it was being compared to medium format cameras, that same sensor is used in this tiny little pocket-ish cam. Yeah ok it isn't quite as good as MF, or the D800E for that matter, but is still a mighty mighty sensor to have in such a tiny camera.

1 upvote
HBowman
By HBowman (Jun 29, 2012)

Learn Photography Alanis. Then you will be legitimate for trolling.

6 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (Jun 29, 2012)

Clearly if you had seen the IQ the SD1 is capable of you wouldn't be here embarrassing yourself with your absurd notions about 2008 and Macbook Pro cameras.

2 upvotes
Alanis
By Alanis (Jun 29, 2012)

Marike6, you embarrass yourself by failing to recognise the irony in my reply to that other fool.

1 upvote
Pr0peller
By Pr0peller (Jun 29, 2012)

Alanis is right folks! For snapshooters there are better cameras, for example iPhones..

1 upvote
Richt2000
By Richt2000 (Jun 29, 2012)

Would anyone buy this over a RX100?

1 upvote
SigmaChrome
By SigmaChrome (Jun 29, 2012)

Of course.

6 upvotes
sirkhann
By sirkhann (Jun 29, 2012)

RX100 bites the dust of DP2m ;)

1 upvote
Gothmoth
By Gothmoth (Jun 29, 2012)

we will see... nobody of you clowns has tested both.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jun 29, 2012)

Quite different beasts really. This will have higher (by a huge margin) IQ to the RX100, but it is a fixed focal length lens, is f2.8 vs f1.8 at it's greatest aperture. The Sony will be a lot faster, more pocketable. This has a hotshoe (many have complained about it not appearing on the RX100), a proper manual focus ring. The best comparison to me would be something like a NEX-5n + 30mm Sigma DN (similarish price). In that case I personally would go the Sigma (though most will go the NEX for it's better low light abilities and interchangeable lenses).

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AlpCns2
By AlpCns2 (Jun 29, 2012)

Yes, in a heartbeat. You see, 15.4 million red pixels, 15.4 million green pixels, and 15.4 million blue pixels is quite a difference from the RX100. And that 30mm lens is supersharp. A very nice combo.

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marike6
By marike6 (Jun 29, 2012)

I've have ordered an RX100 but for it's small size. The DP2m will destroy it for IQ at low ISO, in particular.

But you're comparing a P&S on steroids to a DSLR in a compact's body.

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FTW
By FTW (Jun 29, 2012)

at the same price the RX100 sells, yes

0 upvotes
lightsculpture
By lightsculpture (Jun 29, 2012)

I wonder if there is a good wide-angle converter for this camera. If Sigma makes a good 0.6x converter, we can get 27mm. If I am not mistaken, the f-stop would then go down to about f1.7....

27mm f1.7 with WA Converter
45mm f2.8 without WA

That would be really useful

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (Jun 29, 2012)

No the F stop wouldn't go to 1.7 it would actually be a tad worse. Maybe 2.9.

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lightsculpture
By lightsculpture (Jun 29, 2012)

Combatmedic870, that is interesting. I always thought that the f-stop is f/D where f is the focal length and D is the pupil size of the aperture.

Since in this case, the imagined WA adapter will convert the focal length from 45mm to 27mm with the pupil size remaining the same, I thought it should decrease the f-stop by the same factor....

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Hobbit13
By Hobbit13 (Jun 29, 2012)

lightsculpture: the converter itself will block some light, therefore you'll end up worse than F1.7, how much worse depends on the optical design. But I would guess worse than F2.8

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jun 29, 2012)

lightsculpture - In simple terms yes you are correct, however the listed aperture is a relative value as the physical size differs depending on where it actually sits in the lens and what magnification etc it does before and after the physical iris mechanism. I believe the size relative to the focal length is if the iris itself is after all the lens elements.

But anyway, if you put a wide angle adapter on any lens you will usually get almost no difference, just an ever so slight drop in light gather abilities.

0 upvotes
Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (Jun 29, 2012)

Id want one but i doubt it will be compatible with ACR. dealbreaker for me

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unlearny
By unlearny (Jun 29, 2012)

VGA (640×480) boo! Tell the marketing guys not to tease us about the sensor quality for video and not provide a way to use it.

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jon404
By jon404 (Jun 29, 2012)

Using my Olympus XZ-1 as a comparison -- this Sigma also looks small enough to (maybe) fit in my shirt pocket... better lens, but not as bright; much larger sensor... but no onboard flash. Also, a small thing -- no plastic pop-off lens cover... I really like the simple one on the XZ-1. Most attractive to me: the fixed 45mm Sigma lens, perfect focal length for street photography.

At $1,000, isn't it about the same pricepoint as the fixed-lens Fuji X-100? Same size... or is the Sigma smaller?

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Matrox
By Matrox (Jun 29, 2012)

VGA recording, oh really? It was trendy in 2007 mobile phones :)

1 upvote
photocare
By photocare (Jun 29, 2012)

I start saving money,,,, judging from the fantastic image quality of the DP2x that I own, that new camera must be a great performer!

3 upvotes
jj74e
By jj74e (Jun 29, 2012)

sigma is like fuji but worse. nice controls, nice build quality, great IQ, but stupid firmware, non-competitive AF, and overpriced for the overall package unless its pros are really worth it to you

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Archiver
By Archiver (Jun 29, 2012)

July 12, eh? So end of July in Australia. Might just save the pennies I was putting towards the OM-D for this. A completely different camera, but I just adore the Foveon look. The price looks good, too.

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abortabort
By abortabort (Jun 29, 2012)

Finally! And the price is pretty decent as well. Wonder when the DP1M is going to be available?

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jackpro
By jackpro (Jun 29, 2012)

love he focal length but f2.8 is not f1.4 :-(

1 upvote
Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (Jun 29, 2012)

Well if its anything like the 30mm out for nex. It will be very sharp wide open.

1 upvote
El Matadurr
By El Matadurr (Jun 29, 2012)

Supposedly it's the same lens, just glued to the DP2. Only way to find out for sure is to take apart both a Sigma 30mm f/2.8 and this camera. Doubt anyone will do that just for the sake of knowing.

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sirkhann
By sirkhann (Jun 29, 2012)

Actually it says "a newly-developed telecentric 30mm F2.8 lens". It is telecentric and probably includes FLD glass(es), which means razor sharp straight form 2.8 ;)

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Jun 29, 2012)

This is a 30/1.4. The DP2m would be a much different camera with that amount of glass attached.

http://www.cyberphoto.se/sigma/30.jpg

But 2.0 might be reasonable, if you can accept some slight more bulkiness.

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
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abortabort
By abortabort (Jun 29, 2012)

I had read that it was a slightly different design to the the 30mm f2.8 DN models with at least one extra element?

2 upvotes
unknown member
By (unknown member) (Jun 29, 2012)

The Fujifilm X100 has an F/2.0 lens and is not bulky at all.

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