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Fujifilm launches M-mount adapter for X-Pro1's X-mount

By dpreview staff on May 24, 2012 at 04:01 GMT

Fujifilm has officially unveiled its promised adapter to allow the use of Leica M-mount lenses on the X-Pro1. Unlike third-party versions, the adapter has electronic contacts for communication with the camera body, and a Function button that allows quick setting of the lens in use. To make full use of the adapter, a firmware update for the X-Pro1 (version 1.10) will be made available in June 2012. This will allow the user to create up to six lens profiles to correct distortion, vignetting and corner colour shading (in a similar manner to the Ricoh GXR Mount A12). The camera can show framelines in its unique hybrid viewfinder for 21mm, 24mm, 28mm, and 35mm lenses; for other focal lengths the electronic viewfinder or rear screen will show a preview with 100% coverage of the field of view.

Click here for more details on Fujifilm's website, including a list of compatible lenses


Press Release:

FUJIFILM ANNOUNCES M-MOUNT ADAPTER FOR X-PRO1 INTERCHANGEABLE LENS DIGITAL CAMERA SYSTEM

Valhalla, N.Y., May 24 (EMBARGO UNTIL 12:01 AM EST), 2012 – FUJIFILM North America Corporation today announced that it will release an M-Mount Adapter for the FUJIFILM X-Pro1 interchangeable lens digital camera system, specially made to enhance the experience of taking photos with the professional X-Pro1 digital camera. The all new M-Mount Adapter is designed to expand the lens selection of the FUJIFILM X-Pro1 interchangeable lens digital camera system, and give photographers a wide range of shooting capabilities.

“Since the introduction of the FUJIFILM X100, Fujifilm has made a commitment to expanding the functionality of the X-Series, and today we are very pleased to offer customers a premium accessory that they can truly be excited about – an M-Mount Adapter for the FUJIFILM X-Pro1,” said Go Miyazaki, division president, Imaging and Electronic Imaging Divisions, FUJIFILM North America Corporation. “We listened very carefully to our customers about their desire for an M- Mount for the FUJIFILM X-Pro1, and we are proud to announce that this accessory will be available soon for everyone.”

Precision Made M-Mount Adapter
Similar to the FUJIFILM X-Pro1’s exacting design standards, the precision made M-Mount Adapter is engineered to deliver superb results for discerning photographers.

The M-Mount Adapter is comprised of three parts: an aluminum mount for the body, a stainless steel mount for the lens, and an aluminum central tube. This construction enables an accurately-maintained distance of 27.8mm from the lens mount to sensor, which is crucial for delivering high quality and high resolution images.

The camera side of the M-Mount Adapter features an array of electronic connections that automatically pass information to the FUJIFILM X-Pro1 body based on pre-registered lens profiles. With firmware version 1.10 or later, this information is transmitted by pressing the Function button on the side of the adapter, which allows users to access the M-Mount Adapter Settings menu on the rear LCD.

While attached, the M-Mount Adapter still allows users to enjoy the benefits of the FUJIFILM X-Pro1’s extraordinary Hybrid Multi Viewfinder. The Electronic Viewfinder (EVF) and LCD monitor both offer a 100% field of view, and the Optical Viewfinder (OVF) displays a bright frame corresponding to the focal length in use.

M-Mount Adapter Provides Ultimate Control
The FUJIFILM M-Mount Adapter provides ultimate control by allowing users to create and fine tune lens profiles through the X-Pro1’s Mount Adapter Settings menu. This menu allows X-Pro1 users to profile up to six lenses. There are four pre-sets for 21mm, 24mm, 28mm and 35mm lenses, plus two optional settings for additional optics.

With the Fujifilm M-Mount Adapter attached, profiles can be user-defined, based on distortion, peripheral illumination and color shading corrections.

Three levels of distortion correction are also available to combat barrel distortion on wide-angle lenses, and pincushion distortion on telephoto lenses. Users can select from Strong, Medium or Weak correction, or simply turn any correction off.

Peripheral illumination controls the amount of darkening at the four corners of an image. Eleven levels of correction can be applied from +5 to -5 (including “0”) with users given the choice of darkening the corners of the image to emphasise a central subject or lightening edges for more even illumination across the frame.
Finally, color shading correction allows each corner of the frame to be color corrected to combat any shift in color between the center and edges of the frame. Corrections can be made to red/cyan color shading and blue/yellow color shading from -9 to +9 relative to the green channel.

FUJIFILM M-Mount Adapter key features
• Three-piece aluminium and stainless steel construction
• 27.8mm lens mount to sensor distance
• Electronic connections and Function button
• Compatible with Hybrid Multi Viewfinder
• Lens profiles and corrections available through Mount Adapter Setting menu (firmware version
1.10 or later must be installed for using above features)

The M-Mount Adapter will be available in June 2012 for $199.99.

Comments

Total comments: 95
jondh
By jondh (Oct 31, 2012)

I received my fuji adapter 2 days ago. It works fine with my Voigtlander 21/f4 and 35/f1.4. Focusing with my X-E1 electronic view finder is easy and sharp.

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xpro1user
By xpro1user (Jul 3, 2012)

I received my Leica M-mount lens adapter today. Clicks into place very well, the manual focusing is perfect, extremely happy with the speed of the manual focusing on my Leica Summicron-M 35mm f/2.0 ASPH compared to the Fujifilm 35mm... BUT! a big issue. why can't I take a photo?? The shutter button is stuck, it won't budge. Has anyone got any ideas why this is?

When i adjust the aperture the and focus, the viewfinder adjust accordingly, however, i just can't press down on the shutter button.

Thank you in advance,

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xpro1user
By xpro1user (Jul 3, 2012)

never mind. solved.

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flossypork
By flossypork (Jul 8, 2012)

Do you notice any smearing effect edge of your frame by using the official M adapter ? And do you think the recent firmware update - increase contrast when manual focus significant hellp you focus your objects than before ? Please share some of your thoughts.. ..??

Cheers

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sttp
By sttp (Oct 8, 2012)

I got the adapter recently, Fuji prevent you form using wide retro-focus M glass by making it physically not possible to mount (or mount but not focus past a few feet) on their adapter. Hence, no smearing from wide angles. Unfortunately, this rules out most Leica wide angles. There's a few Voigtlanders 35 or wider that are compatible... Fuji have a list on their website.

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abellia11214
By abellia11214 (Jun 12, 2012)

If the M mount works as intended WOW!! Leica's advantage lies in their amazing lenses. Yet the body is not as feature rich as the X-Pro1. This could be a perfect marriage between Japanese gizadry and German optics. The possibilities intrigue me.

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Realfi
By Realfi (Jun 5, 2012)

I'd love to buy an X-Pro 1 but it's a little out of my range so PLEASE can you finally comprehensively review the X10 with the revised sensor!!!

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km25
By km25 (Jun 3, 2012)

Just want to say, that I have Leica glass and if I buy the pro 1 I may buy this adapter. But if anyone thinks Fuji glass is second rate you are so wrong. Fugi have pro level rangefinder medium format cameras. They make the lens for the new Hassi digital camera and the old 35mm panorama camera. Fugi also at one time made large format lens. These lens neck and neck with all the lens of day, even the three German makers and Nikon.
Do not expect too much of or any real difference!

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xpro1user
By xpro1user (May 29, 2012)

another question!

sorry if this is elsewhere. How many photos (RAW) can a 64GB SD card capture on the X-pro1?

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Petka
By Petka (May 29, 2012)

About 2400-2600 RAW shots. With empty 32 GB card the camera promises 1291 RAW frames, which of course is just an estimate and depends on how much detail there actually are in the photos.

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xpro1user
By xpro1user (May 29, 2012)

i am buying the body on the weekend. but, would you NOT bother with the fuji 35mm 1.4 and stick with a Leica 35mm f/2 SUMMICRON lens???

An excellent lens for low-light photography is very important for me. I'm hearing excellent things in regard to the fujifilm 35mm/1.4 lens. Is it better/could it be at low-light then my Leica 35mm f/2 SUMMICRON?

i hope someone can help,
thanx

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Petka
By Petka (May 29, 2012)

At first I ordered my kit with just the 18 and 60 mm lenses, but decided to get the 35 mm also. No regrets: it is amazingly sharp already at full open. Compared to your Summicron you get one stop more speed, autofocus and smaller size and I honestly believe no quality disadvantage at all.

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xpro1user
By xpro1user (May 29, 2012)

thanx for your reply. much appreciated.

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Photography Bob
By Photography Bob (May 29, 2012)

I'd agree with Petka. The 35mm Fuji lens in very good and the extra stop makes all the difference.
Also the fact that you have the AF option with the 35mm Fuji seals the deal. Go for it, you won't regret it.

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plasnu
By plasnu (May 27, 2012)

I've heard manual focus on XPRO1 is somewhat difficult and slow (compare to Sony or M43).

True?

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Petka
By Petka (May 27, 2012)

True, at least with native lenses because the focus ring needs to be turned a LOT. With fully mechanical lenses like Leicas and Voigtlanders things will be different, but I have no experience yet.

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MPA1
By MPA1 (May 26, 2012)

A good thing if you have or want to have M mount lenses. I may do it just to use some of the less expensive options but no way am I for one buying $5000+ lenses just for this..
I hope there is a decent Nikon F mount adaptor soon, as I already have a bag of those and would love to try them on my XP1 out of curiosity.

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Petka
By Petka (May 29, 2012)

Novoflex should have those soon.

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Uaru
By Uaru (May 25, 2012)

Waited for the news aw well, and wondered, why so long. It is good news in general.

On JP Amazon they say the shipments start on June 9, for 22320 yen.

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slaughtr
By slaughtr (May 24, 2012)

Thank you Fujifilm for producing this. My first purchase will be the wonderful Zeiss 50mm f/2 planar lens. A great lens with a great reputation for a remarkably reasonable price.

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Photography Bob
By Photography Bob (May 29, 2012)

The Zeiss 50mm is my favourite lens on my M8 and I'm looking forward to using it on the X1.
It will be interesting to see what the manual focus is like with a mechanically linked lens.

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jtan163
By jtan163 (May 24, 2012)

If I undersand range finder technology properly (and there's a good chance I don't having never really handled one), the rangefinder mechanism is in the body, ergo you can't really focus the M lenses on the Fuji unless you use the range markings on the lens.

Is that right?

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viking79
By viking79 (May 24, 2012)

The Fuji is not a rangefinder (only looks like one and has a similar style viewfinder), so you are correct, focus by pre focusing the lens and guessing (zone focus) or by using the electronic viewfinder/live view instead.

Eric

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harold1968
By harold1968 (May 25, 2012)

You are correct that the RF mechanism is in the body, but there is no connection to the lens
You can focus M lenses with any technique
So the MF of the fuji is fine

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Paul Guba
By Paul Guba (May 24, 2012)

Makes you wonder how many lenses Fuji is planning on making. Problem Fuji has had is it never had a complete system. Its DSLRs relied on Nikon mount which is why they missed the boat in that market. Cameras delivered good results back in the day.

Niche market at best. If a user had Leica lenses they may buy it but I don't see it happening the other way around, have the adapter buy Leica lens. I will add its not a full frame sensor, so can't leverage all the quality of those great optics.

Always gets back to the nostalgia factor. Leica looking camera with Leica lenes. If that is your market, then it makes perfect sense.

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miniTO
By miniTO (May 24, 2012)

They released a lens map??? we know what lenses they are planning... Oh and this was on the map...

On a side note, there are more then just lecia branded lenses that use the M-Mount...

In any case the X-Pro is a niche camera that fits some perfectly for me its the perfect camera system coming from Canon and Pentax.

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Petka
By Petka (May 24, 2012)

This is an adapter to fit a X-Pro1 on a Leica lens, not the other way around. There are a lot more of those lenses floating around waiting for a great and relatively cheap digital body than there are X-Pro1 owners waiting to buy Leica glass at $5000 a pop. The idea behind this adapter is a solid one.

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Gesture
By Gesture (May 24, 2012)

Cosina (Voigtlander brand) makes a slew of M-mount lenses.

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Petka
By Petka (May 24, 2012)

And good ones they are at a fraction of a cost of a Leica lens. Eying the 12mm Heliar, which would give comparable angle to 18mm on a FF body. Rather in M39 screw mount though, because I have already ordered the Novoflex adapter for that (I have some of those Voigtlander lenses gathering dust with Bessa bodies).

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ST205
By ST205 (May 25, 2012)

I'll have to respectfully disagree Paul. Whilst I don't own a Fuji (I own a NEX 7), I'm sure there will be plenty of people that buy the adapter just so they can go and buy the excellent quality M mount lenses to mount on their cameras.

I don't even own an native Sony lens for example. All of my lenses are M mount Zeiss lenses. And I don't think I'm alone. Have a look in the alternative equipment forum on FM. There are threads with hundreds of pages of people using cameras with alternate lens systems using adapters.

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harold1968
By harold1968 (May 25, 2012)

Based on the three lenses Fuji has released, I don't think they need to worry about any competitor's lenses, including Leica.
They also have a firm road-map for lenses.
I think your points are a red herring
The Fuji sensor is something you can only appreciate when you behold what it can do
It will certainly bring out the best in a Leica, Zeiss or Voigtlander lens

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (May 25, 2012)

Er, a little OT, but I have to say I'm surprised at what it CAN'T do so far. I'm not impressed with the detail at high iso--color is too smudged. It's a solid idea, but I'm not seeing any evidence of it panning out. ...yet. I hope we see better results when Adobe gets around to supporting the XPro1.

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Petka
By Petka (May 27, 2012)

I do not see a real need for Leica lenses for the same focal lengths Fuji has, at least 35 and 60mm macro, they are so good. 18mm is good, but not great in corners at full open. Going to try how Voigtlander 15 Heliar manages the WA business.

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plasnu
By plasnu (May 24, 2012)

I think the worst mistake that Fuji made was they didnt share the same mount with Sony NEX system, like M43. If they shared the mount, it would have been win win for both party. Sigh...

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ebosch
By ebosch (May 24, 2012)

obviously because sony wouldn't allow other brand to use the NEX mount to gain max profit -- while failing at it.

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miniTO
By miniTO (May 24, 2012)

One of the best thing about the Fuji system is its lenses. Why share that advantage with Sony? I know I went the Fuji route because I didn't find Sony's lens lineup appealing

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (May 24, 2012)

What lenses does Sony make that would benefit a camera like this?

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harold1968
By harold1968 (May 25, 2012)

If that's their worst mistake, then the future for the xpro-1 is extremely bright!

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CarVac
By CarVac (May 24, 2012)

Why no 6-bit code reading?
Also, someone needs to make an autofocus Contax G adapter, since the lenses are screw-driven.

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Photography Bob
By Photography Bob (May 29, 2012)

A Contax G adaptor would be great. I've been waiting for an opportunity to use mine for ages. The G2 is still one of the best handling camera's I've used. Quick, compact with great lenses.
Come to that, a digital Contax would also do me.

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mhike
By mhike (May 24, 2012)

No wonder Fuji didn't care about AF performance and set the pricing so high.

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JonB1975
By JonB1975 (May 24, 2012)

AF performance??

Er.......

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harold1968
By harold1968 (May 25, 2012)

AF is excellent
You have ovbviously never used an xpro-1

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (May 25, 2012)

A review of the AF capabilities: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRyQU6XCQt0

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Muus
By Muus (May 24, 2012)

DPreview: 'The camera can show framelines in its unique hybrid viewfinder ... (though not, oddly for 50mm).'
Fuji announcement for the M-Mount Adapter: '...the OVF displays a bright frame corresponding to the focal lenght in use.'
And: 'There are four presets .... plus two optional settings for additional optics.'
Putting two and two together, I would say that when one creates a preset for a 50 mm, the corresponding frame will show in the OVF?

www.hansmuus.com

Comment edited 40 seconds after posting
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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (May 24, 2012)

You'd think so, but that's not what the camera does under current FW - for 'Custom' focal lengths, framelines simply aren't displayed. Perhaps this'll be fixed under FW1.1.

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plasnu
By plasnu (May 24, 2012)

Focus peaking is coming?

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Alastair M
By Alastair M (May 24, 2012)

Are you saying it is, or you hope it is?
I would buy the camera to use with Leica glass if f/p was added to the firmware, sadly my eyesight no longer pin sharp enough to manually focus a lens accurately...
Can't be hard can it - wonder why it's still missing.

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Anadrol
By Anadrol (May 25, 2012)

I'm not interested by the X-Pro 1 because focus peaking is missing,
but I guess that Sony has patents on it.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (May 24, 2012)

Voigtlander 50mm f1.1 and 35mm f1.2 could be pretty cool on this camera.

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oistar
By oistar (May 24, 2012)

Got the 50mm f1.1 on the fuji x-pro 1. It's isn't a really good lens and the 75mm which you get also isn't the most interesting FL. However the 35 f1.2 would be really sweet but Fujis 35mm is pretty much on par.

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Gesture
By Gesture (May 24, 2012)

Brilliant. I admire Fuji for trying different things. The S series of DLRs, a spin on the Bayer sensor, first real advance in optical viewfinders since the Contax G, etc. Many of the consumer point and shoots didn't have the greatest build or feature set (E550; E900 era), but always a good lens and sensor from my experience.

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chekist
By chekist (May 24, 2012)

Very nice, but for many people such as myself who use a dedicated adapter with every M-lens (to avoid complicated switching pattern between native and m-mount lenses) I would rather just have firmware that does the correction independent from the adapter...

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CFynn
By CFynn (May 24, 2012)

The lens profiles / corrections may be stored in the camera - with the adapter only telling the camera which particular lens is mounted.

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chekist
By chekist (May 25, 2012)

but not all the lenses are coded, so this is not even feasible for many lenses. So profiles can be stored in the body, correction clearly also takes place in the body, lens selection can happen in the body. And then we would have an option to pay $70 instead of $200 dollars the adapters. What about non M-mount adapters? Why can't we correct those as well?

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Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (May 24, 2012)

I cannot wait to buy this this for my Xpro....my 50 Summicron and 25 Biogon should go nicely with the Fuji 35mm.

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Jeff Seltzer
By Jeff Seltzer (May 24, 2012)

Can someone explain how focus will work? Will there be focus indication?

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TEBnewyork
By TEBnewyork (May 24, 2012)

I would assume if you use the OVF you are using zone focus or hyperfocal and if you want to go precise you use the EVF or LCD.

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JohnsonC
By JohnsonC (May 24, 2012)

Fuji X-Pro 1 using moire as DoF simulation. Video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz4VUhh8ALk

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 24, 2012)

Says you can use Hybrid display - no news on use of AF confirmation signal in MF status - but sounds plausible option ....

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viciavillosa
By viciavillosa (May 24, 2012)

no mention about AF confirmation?

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (May 24, 2012)

'AF confirm' lens adapters for SLRs key into the camera's phase-detect AF system, but there's no analogous concept for CDAF cameras like the X-Pro1. So don't expect a focus confirm 'green dot' display - it simply can't be done. However, manual focus via magnification of the live view display is inherently more accurate anyway.

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devwild
By devwild (May 24, 2012)

"Can't be done"?

I wouldn't say that. All it involves is running the CD algorithm for the AF position while MF is active and providing feedback for a lock. Programatically it wouldn't be that hard. Most cameras with CD (point & shoot) put a very low priority on manual focus (even the top end raw capable models), so they haven't had much reason to do it to date. It would also probably be battery intensive, but you could make it so you could only have it active by press or toggle of the AF-L button when a fujinon lens isn't detected.

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viking79
By viking79 (May 24, 2012)

No, it isn't that simple. Samsung does this for manual focus with their NX line if you want, but I would prefer using magnified view.

What Samsung does is put a green bar that shows the contrast, this bar increases as the contrast increases, and they use a white line at top to show the peak level the contrast reached (that would be your focus point).

Remember, CDAF works by rapidly cycling through a range of values and picking the one with best contrast. PDAF can tell where a best focus is, CDAF doesn't know until it cycles through the range where the best value was, and if contrast is low it can't lock.

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devwild
By devwild (May 24, 2012)

Thanks for the added info, though the method on the NX line would certainly be workable here as well (if less than ideal), so to say it's not possible at all is a little overkill. That's really what I was getting at.

I agree though, just having a better magnified view or focus peaking would be preferable and more flexible.

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (May 24, 2012)

As it happens Fujifilm used a contrast scale for manual focus assist on the S200 EXR back in 2009. It can be genuinely useful under suitable conditions, but it's easily confused and doesn't tell you the same thing as an AF confirm adapter at all. I certainly wouldn't trust it when using the OVF (as parallax error means you don't know precisely what point in the image the sensor is measuring from), and in the EVF magnified live view is simply quicker and more accurate.

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TEBnewyork
By TEBnewyork (May 24, 2012)

Very interesting specs!

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DStudio
By DStudio (May 24, 2012)

This is very appropriate for the market Fuji's going for with this camera, and makes a clear statement about the quality of camera they believe they're offering.

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openskyline
By openskyline (May 24, 2012)

It will provide better monochrome quality than the M9 monochrome at 1/5 of the cost.

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Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (May 24, 2012)

Nevermind monochrome...the colour files are also better right out of the box.

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

No, it's not. The high iso is just on par or even better with Leica, the resolution is for leica with a great advantage, up to 3-4 times.

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 24, 2012)

Oh purleese .... Emacs - on which planet? I'm all for fair comment and defence of chosen cameras, but no evidence in the known world backs your comparative ISO/Resolution claims.

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sunhorse
By sunhorse (May 24, 2012)

Where is the evidence that it will have a higher monochrome IQ than the Leica Monochrom? The X Pro-1 certainly has a good sensor, and a different RGB pattern, but still needs de-mosaicing so some loss of resolution will be there.

Let's look at the evidence before making such claims shall we?

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

@Photozopia
Fuji pattern decreases color artifacts at the cost of detail and color reproduction. Fuji 16Mp resolution is about 12-14Mp aps-c with bayer filter and no aa. Bayer filter is about 2 times details drop compared to filterless solution. So, the fuji is about the equivalent of 6Mp monochrome sensor: 3 times less than MM. About ISO: leica M9 highest "noiseless" ISO is ≈800. The fuji is about 2000. With bayer filter we have from 1 to 3 stops light loss. So, with MM we have from 1600 up to 6400 limit (depends on the spectrum of lightning).

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 24, 2012)

Emacs - the Fuji is 16mp (not Bayer array - Fuji's own) which ever way you juggle it - you can't 'subtract' megapixels. If you remove the colour array (as Leica did with M-M) the Fuji would similarly leap to to 19-22mp. XPro1 is useable to ISO 12,800 (read reviews) so how is your claim of M-M ISO 6400 - three or four times the resolution? Again - remove the XPro1 colour array and (using your logic) the Fuji ISO sensitivity would potentially leap to similar levels of 36-40,000 ISO. The Leica M-M is not even 3-4 times magnitude 'better' ... it just gets rid of barriers that enable it to compete (barely) with a standard Fuji X performing normally. Removing the Bayer layer enables the Leica to hit Fuji 'normal' performance levels at best - a similar mod would see the Fuji similarly devastate the M-M (using your own logic)

The Fuji simply wins - hands down - without effort.

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Petka
By Petka (May 24, 2012)

If you compare DR graphs for M9 and X-Pro1 the Fuji has 2.5-3 stops more DR than the color Leica. Theoretical 2 stop improvement is claimed for the B&W sensor, but still it is worse than Fuji.

In sharpness X-Pro1 competes with 20+ FF sensor cameras. I know, I have 5DII and X-Pro1 and have run tests; they are just about equal in sharpness, Fuji lenses being much better also than the Canon counterparts at large apertures.

It is conceivable that M9m puts out slightly sharper B&W images than X-Pro1, but the difference is small. X-Pro1 has more DR, shoots cleaner at high ISOs than practically anything, shoots also color, costs 1/5 of M9m... Now it also takes Leica glass, and everything else also with Novoflex adapters.

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

@Photozopia
Dude, I won't even comment your reply. Read carefully what I wrote. Also you seem to have no good knowledge of the subject.

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

> In sharpness X-Pro1 competes with 20+ FF sensor cameras. I
> know, I have 5DII and X-Pro1 and have run tests; they are just
> about equal in sharpness, Fuji lenses being much better also
> than the Canon counterparts at large apertures

I don't argue about better DR of fuji. I only replied to BS about Fuji being sharper and less noisier than MM. It's obvious B$. Everyone who have a clue about these deals should understand this.

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 24, 2012)

Leica has cr*p ISO/NR - you say yourself standard Leica sensor tops out at ISO 800 - you claim MM mods take it to 6400. XPro is still smooth at 6400 and upwards - useable at 12,800 - so where is Leica less noisy than Fuji. Everyone knows the Leica sensor can't compete with modern generation sensors - that's why there is still no M10. QED.

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

Dude, you definitely don't have any clue. I won't educate you, but can give you a tie. Just go to the dxomark.com and learn how they perform tests. I don't like their lens tests as well as overall sensor score, but they definitely know how to test cameras. And I hope I won't see such nonsense from you anymore.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (May 25, 2012)

The X-Pro1 is a lot better at high ISO than the M9. The M9 beats the X-Pro1 for image quality at low ISOs though.

All I can say is I've found the corner smearing issue with the X-Pro1 to be way overdone and that it already works well with MF lenses. I've tested it with a 50mm F2 Summicron and a 35mm F1.2 Nokton and obtained excellent results with each (check my X-pro1 gallery if you like, there should be some examples there) on a Kipon adapter. The advantage of focus peaking is way overdone, I get no more keepers with my NEX than I do with the X-Pro1 (I focus using the EVF).

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peevee1
By peevee1 (May 24, 2012)

Finally, a decent camera for the lenses.

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fotoingo
By fotoingo (May 24, 2012)

What about the corner smearing?
The camera has no real issue with color shift in the corners but with smearing when using wide angle lenses!

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

Didn't you see horrible smearing on leica WAs? It's even less usable with them than NEX-7

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 24, 2012)

Err - where are the Fuji product examples - with smearing - you talk about? Seems there are a couple of guys posting here who have used this adaptor prior to it's release, but not shared the results.

Have you got a link for the images you took with the branded Fuji M Mount Adaptor - I'd like to see them before deciding on a buy ....

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fotoingo
By fotoingo (May 24, 2012)

I said that MF wide angle lenses give corner smearing on the Xpro1.
This happends with Contax G and Leica lenses for example.
I didnt speak about the Fuji adapter but in general with other adapters.
Since the Fuji adapter doesnt contain a lens or something to straighten the light rays before hitting the sensor the Fuji Adapter will do nothing for corner smearing.
AND in the press infos they dont even talk about corner smearing... !
Only about color cast (which more or less does not exist when using the other adapters) lens vignetting and so on.
So read before you write ;-)
Cheers

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 24, 2012)

Did you miss the 'software correction' bit in the Fuji specification - perhaps they don't mention smearing because it does not exist in the FUJI BRANDED adaptor.

This is a thread specifically about the Fuji adaptor - not other brands - did you miss that? Or are you simply trolling? Unless you have tested the FUJI adaptor - and I do mean the FUJI adaptor - or were part of the FUJI design team, so speaking authoritatively upon it's capabilities - what is your point exactly?

I both read AND thought before I typed a response - did you?

Without coding, even Leica WA lenses perform poorly on an M9 - that's the camera it was designed for, not a different brand entirely. Or are you one of those who think the world revolves around Leica and that all others should design their products specifically to work with your peculiar fantasies?

If you don't like Leica or even Contax lenses on Fuji bodies - don't use them. Go buy an M9 instead.

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Petka
By Petka (May 24, 2012)

Corner smearing is much less a problem on a X-Pro1 than on a Leica M9 with the same Leica lens. Just flip out a pencil, paper and a straightedge and do some ray tracing...

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

LOL, these two again.
@Photozopia, are you crazy? What software correction for smearing? Your knowledge is really poor.
And leica lenses unusable with fuji bodies. I thought about to replace my GXR with it, but drop this idea after testing. Super Elmar 18 is HORRIBLE, Lux 35 ASPH FLE is not good enough too. Only lux 50 is OK. But I don't need 50 on APS-C.
I didn't particularly like the camera too: it's unreliable, unlike leica or nex/gxr, om-d. It has pretty bad colors as well. So, it's overhyped piece of camera that doesn't suit my needs: I prefer either true classic approach or modern computers with camera (I mean nex, gxr, om-d).

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 24, 2012)

Emacs - Re. your: @Photozopia, are you crazy? What software correction for smearing? Your knowledge is really poor. Duuur!

You not know modern sensors not work on optics alone? Try in camera correction for optic mismatch faults.

If you're not interested in using Fuji, i.e. 'doesn't suit your needs' - why are you posting? TROLLING!

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fotoingo
By fotoingo (May 24, 2012)

@ Photo"zoo"
We will see if the FUJI adapter works WONDERS and the corner smearing disappears into nothingness.
I will buy it instantly if it does :-)
But... It´s funny to see that you call everyone a TROLL who is not 100% on your side.
And no... Not everything can be solved through software in-camera. Th M9 has special microlenses on the outer parts of the sensor to give the good results when used together with the software. The Nex 5n (which I also own) has those too.
I didnt read anything about special microlenses for the Fuji so far. I used my Contax G 28, 35, 45 and 90mm on my X-Pro1 too and the 28 + the 35mm give a lot a corner smearing (and no color cast !)! Like the Nex 3/5 before the 5n did.

Did YOU use any of this stuff before and have experiences ?
My guess is -> No.
Whatever. I hope the Fuji-adapter will work wonders :-)
Cheers !

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Emacs23
By Emacs23 (May 24, 2012)

> If you're not interested in using Fuji, i.e. 'doesn't suit your needs'
> - why are you posting? TROLLING!

Because someone should limit a nonsense flood here generated by you and petek. You are two ignorants who doesn't have any idea and thus generating rubbish. It's pain to read your and petek BS.

PS I participated in development of one of RAW editors, and recently one mirrorless manufacturer tried to hire me (I rejected, don't like their cameras and company approach in general).

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Photozopia
By Photozopia (May 25, 2012)

fotoingo - at last, a glimmer of comprehension. IF the Fuji branded adaptor is - as claimed - able to cure "distortion, vignetting and corner colour shading" it may be worth buying.

All that was being pointed out was that you were comparing it to other, cheap Chinese sourced adaptors - without benefits of the electronic control that most 'narrow' bodied systems utilise in lens correction.

Emacs - You know people have lost their argument when they just start throwing arrogant insults and name-calling, on top of stupid claims. At the end of the day - if you do not want to use the Fuji cos you think it's rubbish - why are you posting here? By definition - Trolling, period.

Some of us are merely trying to pass on views, not make ludicrous claims, either about equipment they've never used - or their own (unproven) abilities. I'd suggest you set up your OWN website - there you can moderate/ban who you like ... and spout your unfounded views without fear of someone contradicting them.

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CaptD
By CaptD (Jun 7, 2012)

I wonder if my old 21 3.4 Super Angulon and my 50 Summicron DR will work with this adapter. These are two lenses that I love and they just don't seem to fit either the M9 (21 may fit now) or the NEX. What joy if they both worked on the X1. Well, even if they don't there's always the 35 Summicron and I truly look forward to some manual focusing with it!

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Andy N
By Andy N (Aug 30, 2012)

Hi all.

I was wondering if anyone has used the Zeiss 18mm Distagon m mount lens with the Fuji M-Mount adapter on the X-Pro1? I'm keen to know if there are any issues with this lens when used on the X-Pro1 and how it performs, much better then the Fuji XF lens?

Many thanks in advance.

Andy

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