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Samsung announces US pricing for Wi-Fi-capable NX20, NX210 and NX1000

By dpreview staff on May 17, 2012 at 17:00 GMT

Samsung has announced the US prices for its latest 'Smart' Wi-Fi enabled NX mirrorless cameras, the NX20, NX210 and NX1000. It has also said the NX1000 will be available from June at a price of around $699 with the 20-50mm retractable zoom. The range-topping 20MP NX20 with its electronic viewfinder will retail for around $1099, with the i-Fn version of the 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 kit zoom. The NX210, meanwhile, will cost around $899 with the same lens.


Press Release:

Samsung Unveils Three SMART Camera NX Models for U.S. Market – For Spectacular Image Quality and Instant Photo Sharing at Any Skill Level

RIDGEFIELD PARK, N.J., May 17, 2012 – Samsung Electronics America Inc., a market leader and award-winning innovator in consumer electronics, announced the pricing and U.S. retail availability of three SMART compact system cameras (CSC) with built-in Wi-Fi – the eye catching NX1000, the versatile NX210 and the top-of-the-line NX20. With SMART features, the NX1000, NX210 and NX20 can connect to wireless networks without any additional cards or devices, making it seamless to share and store photos directly from the camera.

All three new Samsung NX cameras offer exceptional image quality and are designed for users with different photographic skill levels. With a premium metallic finish, the NX20 and NX210 compact system cameras are available now from authorized Samsung retailers for manufactured suggested retail prices (MSRP) of $1,099.99 and $899.99, respectively. The sleek and compact NX1000 will be available in June in white, black and pink at an MSRP of $699.99.

“With the expansion of the NX family, Samsung reinforces its commitment to connected creativity. Photography, at its core, is as much about sharing a special moment, as it is about capturing a stunning image and the new NX Series delivers both without compromise,” said Reid Sullivan, Senior Vice President of Digital Imaging, Samsung Electronics America. “Whether for professionals emailing photos on assignment, or a family sharing a truly unique memory, there is an NX Series camera ready to deliver.”

Channeling Samsung’s premium NX image quality, the NX1000, NX210 and NX20 cameras all feature a stunning design and a professional-grade 20.3 megapixel APS-C CMOS sensor. Ensuring the cameras benefit from Samsung’s ecosystem of imaging products, they are also compatible with Samsung’s unique i-Function 2.0 system. This innovative system enables users to control camera settings using the lens only, without having to take focus off the subject. New i-Function features include a digital crop and zoom, which allows users to focus on the most important parts of an image and crop away distracting background elements, plus the ability to add custom functions.

Shoot SMART with Samsung NX
Coupled with the latest SMART features, the integration of Wi-Fi in the new NX models enables users to instantly upload images and video to social networking sites like Facebook, Picasa, Photobucket and YouTube, to the cloud with Microsoft® Sky Drive®, or even email them directly from the camera at the touch of a button.

Further extending the benefits of Samsung’s SMART features, the NX20, NX210 and NX1000 are compatible with Samsung’s Remote Viewfinder app, which when loaded from Google Play (formerly the Android Marketplace) onto a supported GALAXY smartphone or tablet, allows users to control settings and even take the picture from up to 30 feet away. With Samsung’s MobileLink app, users can easily transfer and display images on Samsung smartphones, tablets, or Smart TVs – turning a variety of popular devices into instant photo frames.

In addition, AllShare and the TV Link application let the new NX models connect directly to a DLNA-compatible TV to show off those amazing images on the big screen, while PC Backup can store photos on a PC without fumbling with cables.

All-new, Extremely Approachable: The NX1000
As an introduction to CSC photography, the NX1000 combines the imaging power of a professional camera with the portability of a point-and-shoot camera. The NX1000 boasts an eye-catching design and compact form-factor suitable for a small bag and a night out on the town. Bundled with an all-purpose 20-50mm lens and external flash, the NX1000 offers shutterbugs a versatile system that can help improve their photography skills, while also capturing high-quality images.

The Samsung NX1000 features a large, bright 3.0-inch LCD screen for composing images and 1080p HD video, and technologies like Smart Auto 2.0 take the guess work out of photo-taking. A dedicated Smart Link Hot Key on the top of the camera makes sharing photos via Wi-Fi as easy as pressing a button for instant sharing.

Versatile and Powerful: The NX210

Championing the successes of its predecessor, the NX200, Samsung’s NX210 camera incorporates a brilliant, 3.0-inch AMOLED screen for viewing and composing in any light – indoors or out, as well as an all-metal premium-quality body for added durability.

The new NX210 also boasts high speed capture with a 1/8000 shutter and continuous shooting capabilities up to 8 frames per second, ensuring no moment is missed. With features like Smart Panel, the NX210 brings versatility to the forefront and empowers users to push their photographic limits.

Pro-grade Performance: The NX20

Sporting a form factor similar to a DSLR camera, yet much more compact, the Samsung NX20 is a compelling photo companion for enthusiasts and professional-level photographers looking for portability. At a fraction of the size and weight of DSLR cameras, the NX20 offers comfortable ergonomics and a convenient 3.0-inch swivel Super AMOLED screen for composing in a variety of conditions and at any angle. Additionally, the NX20 incorporates an SVGA Electronic Viewfinder (EVF) for framing and composing images. The EVF also includes a proximity sensor to detect when a user is away from the viewing area and shuts the screen off to conserve battery life.

Fitting for more advanced users, the NX20 touts a lightning-quick shutter speed, allowing users to capture images at up to 1/8000 of a second. Continuous shooting also adds to the camera’s photo prowess, as the NX20 can shoot up to 8 frames per second. Lastly, an electronic level feature helps compose images and allows users to perfectly center and adjust a tripod-mounted or handheld shot.

Creative Control at Your Fingertips
Creating artistic expressions with photography is now available for all users with minimal effort. Samsung’s Smart Auto setting analyzes, identifies and automatically selects the most appropriate of its scene modes to provide users with optimal results. From a brilliant fireworks display to a dimly-lit party environment, scene detection technology identifies the shooting conditions and automatically adjusts the settings to help achieve standout images. For users seeking more control, the Smart Panel allows them to explore their own photographic skills with Full Manual Control settings for aperture, shutter speed, flash intensity and more.

All three NX models feature Samsung’s ten exclusive Smart Filters and a new Selective Color function, which allows users to isolate a single color in an image for a dramatic effect. Additionally, the NX20, NX210 and NX1000 make it simple to capture an entire scene with the innovative Panorama and 3D Panorama features creating immersive shots of landscapes and scenery.

For more information on the new NX1000, NX210 and NX20 as well as Samsung’s full line of cameras, please visit www.samsung.com.

Comments

Total comments: 121
snigdha1bigboss
By snigdha1bigboss (Jan 4, 2013)

Nice camera, but little bit expensive for any common man...I search a lot in net as I am searching for a good camera. I found that Shipping Charges are extra and on other site they provide only seller warranty. On the below site I found it for Rs. 32,990/- with manufacturer warranty, Bill and free Shipping and freebies.

http://www.shopbychoice.com/samsung-nx1000-camera-white/p/TWpjeE5UTT0

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Oct 31, 2012)

Samsung’s Remote Viewfinder app does not seem to be available unless you purchase a samsung phone. That totally defeats the purpose for me... I'm not going to buy an expensive samsung phone that is too sophisticated for my needs, just to use a dumb remote shutter app!

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Vitruvius
By Vitruvius (Jun 8, 2012)

Just tried the NX20 in the store. Very disappointed with the feel of the zoom on the lens. Even more disappointed when I found that there were very few alternative lenses available with the IS for video. Sucks because otherwise this is a very nice camera.

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customminds
By customminds (May 22, 2012)

francis you are wrong. connecting to the camera from a network it creates isn't the way to go. having the camera connect to another network is.

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Francis Sawyer
By Francis Sawyer (May 21, 2012)

"Connecting to wireless networks" isn't going to do it. These things need to create an ad-hoc network that OTHER devices can connect to, specifically the iPhone. Currently, there's no way to use the iPhone to post pictures from a real camera, because Apple's asinine Camera Connection Kit doesn't work with their own phone.

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Cailean Gallimore
By Cailean Gallimore (May 19, 2012)

Samsung are catching up slowly but surely with the usual suspects. Samsung are not the best of the best, but they are getting better all the time. I picked up a used NX10 for a song a few weeks ago, and for casual out and about shooting, it's perfectly adequate. If someone threw any Samsung camera at me I wouldn't dodge it.

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Vitruvius
By Vitruvius (Jun 4, 2012)

"catching up" and "best of the best" is very subjective. I love Canon but they still don't have focus tracking during video on their DSLRs. The reason? Likely because they are at the top and don't really care. I would prefer to buy from a company that is at least trying. I was going to buy the Canon G1x but I think the NX20 is a fair bit better. ("better" being subjective to my personal needs and wishes of course).

0 upvotes
Hecksan
By Hecksan (Sep 15, 2012)

Hi, I was wondering if you can help me. I have a NX10, this past summer my camera just stopped working, I don't know what's wrong with it, I have charged the battery and still does not power on. The question is where could I sent my camera to get fixed ? I just have had purchased a 55 to 200 lens for that camera & I just used it for a week. Thanks in advance,

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (Oct 31, 2012)

@hecksan: the fix you need is a NX1000 for the price of a nx10 repair. ;-) higher resolution, better image quality, much faster processing. and you can keep on using your lenses. ;-)

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Pik2004
By Pik2004 (May 18, 2012)

Wi-fi sounds cool, but waiting for their droid NX cameras, now that would really cool.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

Why so the camera can be loaded with Google crapware? And so Google can tell where and when you've been taking photos?

Is there even serious Android raw extraction and still photo editing software (excuse me "app"(s))?

4 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (Oct 31, 2012)

WTF am I going to do with a computer in a camera? I've got computers coming out of my ears here! Laptop, netbook, smartypants phone... I just want a camera that does what I want it to do, won't leave me hanging while it does OS and app updates (!!!) and will allow me to control the shutter remotely with my smartypants phone (but I still don't see an app for that on the google market - and I have no other use for the built-in wifi that is on my nx1000).

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phaedin
By phaedin (May 18, 2012)

This NX20 looks interesting.
a large APS-C size sensor in a small, light package.
It looks like it has some better specs than most entry level DSLRs
The wifi capabilities are not important to me
If the image quality is good, and feels comfortable to hold, i might be getting it

1 upvote
Rachotilko
By Rachotilko (May 18, 2012)

suum cuique pulchrum est

Thence the technologies of 1950's are best served by the mirror.
But it does not suit the technologies of the 3rd millenium.

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Ben Raven
By Ben Raven (May 18, 2012)

VERITAS !

De gustibus non disputandum est.

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Francis Sawyer
By Francis Sawyer (May 21, 2012)

Porque voy a lamer los lentes y montar los orificios.

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timccr
By timccr (May 18, 2012)

After playing around with lots of RAW samples I think Samsung make a good system. Obviously these newer models are even better so you should all sell your NX 200s, preferably with 16mm, 30mm and 60mm lens because I don't want a zoom.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

Do you mean that you have NX20 raw files? Where did you get them?

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Vegasus
By Vegasus (May 18, 2012)

Ppl here r sounds not very happy with this mirrorless technology.
Perhaps takes time to get accept by ppl around the world.
if the price cost less than canon eos 1000D,.. i bet ppl will buy them.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (May 18, 2012)

Rebels are really junk compared to modern mirrorless. Slow, heavy, no manual controls, and even worse IQ (see DPRs image comparison tool, any Rebel vs E-M5 or X-Pro1 or Nex-5N).

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marike6
By marike6 (May 18, 2012)

@peevee1 An EOS Rebel/1000D is an older model, but an EOS 600D/T3i is far from junk with IQ that easily matches or betters an EM-5, all the manual controls you could ever want, better AF, a fully articulated LCD and is one of the best low-priced DSLR still and HDSLR video cameras available with similar performance in video to a 7D.

The DPR studio comparison is a good tool, but is not the be all and end all of what makes a good camera. Canon makes significantly better lenses than any of the cameras makers you mentioned and a $ 600 600D/T3i body can mount them all so you've got a weird idea of junk.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (May 19, 2012)

marike6, what are talking about? "All manual controls I could want"? How about 2 dials like on E-M5? Good IQ? Go to DPR's comparison, JPEG, set ISO to 12800 - see for yourself, both E-M5 and NEX-5N (and Pentax k-01, and Fuji X-Pro 1...) are significantly better. And no, 600D does not go any higher, while 5N and E-M5 still do. What, sports shooting? You will not get many jumps in the air or balls on the bat with 3.7 fps. NEX-5N shoots 10 fps, E-M5 shoots 9 fps, Samsung NX 8 fps...
Rebels are just dumbed-down junk for people who want pretend they are pros with 1Ds in their hands. Well, the people saved on the body, but got taken on the heavy glass.

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FTW
By FTW (May 18, 2012)

I wanted to have a look on the Samsung NX200 recently, have been at hundreds of Samsung stores and all they had where tablets and phones. Why do Samsung-stores not sell the cameras. The shops that had cameras had all from Samsung up to 300$, all higher priced than that needed to be ordered and paid in advance and asked for 1 to1.5 month delivery time. How do you want to buy a camera like that, then, 890$ for the NX210 that does not even offers the comfort a NEX 5 offers. I get the Nex for 750 $ with the 18-55 and the 16 pancake in a kit. The NX20 price can be discussed, but if i compare it to the NEX7, the price seems ok to me. The 20 mpix sensor of Samsung is as good, if not even better than the 24 mpix Sony.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

In the New York City specialized, single branch, photo stores do have the NX200 on display.

However Samsung took too long to get the display cameras to the retailers.

Those Sony Nex lenses can't touch the Samsung NX lenses, even the Samsung kit lenses beat the Sonys.

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littleroot
By littleroot (May 18, 2012)

Not DSLR's but have DSLR pricing? It will never work. Oh wait. Yeah, um, most people are not me. Never mind

5 upvotes
ybizzle
By ybizzle (May 18, 2012)

Yea that's right! Look at all the failed cameras like the X100, NEX7, X-Pro 1, EP3, etc that sold at DSLR prices... ;)

7 upvotes
iudex
By iudex (May 18, 2012)

Oly OM-E EM5 with slow kit lens sels for the price of best APSC DSLRs with fast lenses (e.g. D7000). How come this works? ;-)

2 upvotes
forpetessake
By forpetessake (May 18, 2012)

Correction, higher than same level DSLR -- and they are selling MILs like hot cakes, unlike DSLRs which showed very limited growth last year and which market share is expected to shrink. There is something about these cameras that make them more desirable even at higher than DSLR prices. I think you can guess what :-)

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Ibida Bab
By Ibida Bab (May 18, 2012)

A few more Samsungs that will sink into oblivion real fast.

6 upvotes
iudex
By iudex (May 18, 2012)

Dream on.
The NX system brought Samsung back among serious players. I know a lot of people having NX camera and they are happy with it (some even changing a DSLR for CSC).

3 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (May 18, 2012)

let's see how many pros take samsung to the olympics this summer....won't bother to ask further becasue there will be pro is dumb enough to bring a samsung with him/her. it would be a JOKE...a real joke..a real joke that lasts years

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iudex
By iudex (May 18, 2012)

audijam: not a fair example, since at the olympics you can expect some sport ;-) logically fast actions for which a DSLR with phase detect focusing is better. But we are not solely sport photographers, right? We go to nature, shoot portraits, macro, architecture etc.
Or another view: how mamy pros will take a medium format Hasselbladt or Mamyia to the olympics? You surely admit they make better pictures than FF. nevertheless 99% of photographers at the olympics will have Canon 5D/1D or Nikon D3/D4. Can you guess why? ;-)

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audijam
By audijam (May 18, 2012)

the first type of photography pops out of my mind when you see "serious players" is sport photogrpahy so i used olympics as an example. guess your definition of serious is a bit different than mine then.

i won't discuess medium format since it's at a different level of being serious. if i get the cash to burn and hot girls running around the pool....and someone pays me....sure...why not...like Suze Randall...oh wait...she doesn't use medium format either...oh well~~~

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iudex
By iudex (May 19, 2012)

So you finally agree that there are cameras suitable for different situations.
I guess Cartier-Bresson was a serious photographer for you and he never shot with an SLR, but used small Leica rangefinder. I guess if he lived now he wouldn´t go out to make street photography with giant full frame DSLR, but take a small rangefinder or CSC. If you go on a mountain tour with children you don´t take a Pentax 645D either.
So a CSC is a modern Bresson´s Leica, small, lightweight and not striking, but allowing to take pictures of high quality.

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (May 19, 2012)

@audjam. I am sure a pro at the olympics would want a much longer zoom than you can get with NX. I am not sure why you have brought the Olympics up for this camera as I expect Samsung did not really have this in mind for the release of the camera, especially for professional sports photographers. I am sure the release date is just a coincidence.

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Jefftan
By Jefftan (May 18, 2012)

too expensive
NEX F3 only $600

Wake up Samsung, this is camera not your GALAXY smartphone
Don't dream of selling at a premium price

8 upvotes
iudex
By iudex (May 18, 2012)

Don´t worry, Samsung always starts with high prices that drop within couple of months down. It´s their policy, puttiing confident prices at first to show they compete with the best and in reality selling for low prices, so the customer is satisfied how well he bought the camera.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 18, 2012)

Start with inflated price and then drop the price, nice strategy but no, it's more like start high and if there is an idiot dump enough to buy bonus for Samsung, now drop the price and catch all the fools.

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iudex
By iudex (May 19, 2012)

Maybe the pricing differs from country to country, in my country the NX100 ended with price of 266 eur and NX11 still sells for 399 eur. A very fair price for an APS-C sensor sized camera (cheaper than Canon G12 with 1/1,7" sensor). Samsung makes especially interesting kits, e.g. NX11 was sold with 18-55 and 30mm and the excellent 30mm was only some 50 eur extra.
The only real problem with Samsung cameras are big RAW files (40-50 MB) and slow writing.

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Biowizard
By Biowizard (May 18, 2012)

It's coming soon ... heaven help us all ... the "mirrorless" iPhone with interchangeable lenses! But do we want it? NO!!!!!

There's a reason "DSLRs" work - and its no longer because the bodies were modified from film versions. Rather, it's why 35mm SLRs were SO much more successful in overall sales and market penetration than any other form of serious camera.

Yes, the 6x6 and 6x4.5 medium format Hasselblads, Mamiyas and Pentaxes gave even better resolution, depth of field control, and so on - but they were too "big" for most uses.

Yes, the 110 SLR (Pentax, remember it?) or even APS (where I have I heard that acronym of late?) SLRs appeared and then vanished like sparkle-dust: why? Too small. Too small to handle, too small to use, too small, period.

The 35mm is simply the "right" size to hold, adjust, plug things into, and shoot with.

So LONG LIVE the 35mm-sized DSLR! And away with these micro-sized system cameras. I already have an iPhone.

Brian

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vlassov
By vlassov (May 18, 2012)

For some, this may be a good solution between getting an DSLR (larger) and using a phone (worse quality).

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danijel973
By danijel973 (May 18, 2012)

Well I would certainly agree that 35mm is the right size to use, but in my days 35mm was Minolta X-700, Canon AE-1 and Olympus OM-1. All of those cameras are much smaller than today's SLRs, about the size of E-M5, which is probably why they sell them faster than they can make them. Today's 35mm SLR systems are the size of a yesterday's Hasselblad, so your reading of the situation is just wrong.

Besides, it's one thing to shoot with a camera, and another to carry it with you to that point, and I will gladly sacrifice some of the pleasantness of use for the ability to carry more lenses in a smaller package. Of course, if the image quality is there.

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MichaelEchos
By MichaelEchos (May 18, 2012)

Neh, DX is about the size of the old cameras. The current 35mm cameras are much larger than its film counterparts.

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Michele Kappa
By Michele Kappa (May 18, 2012)

The Oly E-M5 is just a tad smaller than the glorious film OM.
The so called 35mm-sized DSLRs are actually inexistent today.
Unless you shoot film, that is.

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danijel973
By danijel973 (May 18, 2012)

And even if you shoot film you must use old technology from the '80s. The last generation of film SLR cameras, EOS 3 and like, were unwieldly beasts the size of 5d.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (May 18, 2012)

Isn't D600 supposed to be smaller? The size of D90/D7000.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

Biowizard:

What is this about APS dslrs disappearing? Canon 7D? Nikon D7000? Nikon D300s?

Then of course these Samsung NX cameras all use APS sensors.

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redeye47
By redeye47 (May 18, 2012)

@howaboutRAW - I believe danijel973 meant APS film SLR cameras.

http://www.nicovandijk.net/apscameras.htm

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

redeye47:

Except Biowizard was a talking about APS dslrs disappearing above danijel973's entry in this thread.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (May 18, 2012)

DPR, how deep in your review pipeline the NX20 is? When one approximately can expect it?

No pancake kits though is a bummer.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (May 18, 2012)

We haven't been sent a camera yet, so it's not even in the queue yet, I'm afraid.

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yslee1
By yslee1 (May 18, 2012)

This is really why Samsung is going to fail here. Their marketing is crappy beyond belief!

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Michele Kappa
By Michele Kappa (May 18, 2012)

Well, it seems to me their crappy marketing has made them sell sh**loads of cell phones, though.
I wouldn't mind if that happened with their cameras, which are actually quite good.

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yslee1
By yslee1 (May 18, 2012)

The marketing for their phones is great. Cameras? Not so much. Pricing is terrible, advertising is so-so, promotion is terrible (if DPReview don't have a review set, I'm not confident many other review sites will have), their distribution and supply is terrible (I got interested in the system when I found out the prices, but some lenses are so hard to get).

If Samsung wants to be a major player, they need to do much, much better.

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Daxs
By Daxs (May 18, 2012)

Hm,,,

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Daxs
By Daxs (May 17, 2012)

I don't know why so many people need worry about compact cameras. Phone and compact cameras is for family pictures and that's it! It's so funny how many people ready for fighting which compact camera is better! :D That's just a compact camera!!!!

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dtmoody
By dtmoody (May 17, 2012)

Because, many people (myself included) are looking for a really good performing small compact camera. I do not want to lug around a "huge" DSLR. I want to grab my camera and go. I want to be able to take it many places and not worry about it.

I enjoyed the NEX-5N very much, but for me, it was still not a good fit for me and my family. I sold it, and am looking forward to replacing it soon.

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Michele Kappa
By Michele Kappa (May 18, 2012)

Funny, I remember a Magnum photographer winning an international award with a photo made with "just a compact camera".
Makes you think, doesn't it?

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peevee1
By peevee1 (May 18, 2012)

How is it "just compact"? Most compacts (and phone cameras) have sensors 15-20 times smaller than this. This one have the sensor better than most DSLRs, and shoots faster.

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Daxs
By Daxs (May 18, 2012)

Imagine, wedding and photographer running and taking pictures with phone or compact camera! :) I always said " not imported what camera have photographer most imported is human who taking pictures" But, fighting for compact camera and try to by best compact camera for my family pictures it's ridiculous. :) I know, you can get award winning pictures with any camera! but really it's imported how many pixels is in your award winning picture????? I no think so!

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magneto shot
By magneto shot (May 17, 2012)

hmm,
the only thing this offer is better is vs the Nikon v1...but then hey...almost every other mirrorless out there is better than the nikon puny v1.
On the other hand, Samsung, can u just focus on your other business ...which happens to be everything else that is imaginable? I heard you guys are into apparels too in korea !

come on lar, stop wasting the tax payers money and fund camera development, even if you want to start one, make its a new company that is totally separated and have great new ideas, this looks so much like a samsung...if i wanted a TV that can take photos, i wll buy one but not a camera that looks like "me too"....gosh...stick with the 4/3 if u want...not another system

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Michele Kappa
By Michele Kappa (May 18, 2012)

To be fair, Samsung produces good mp3 and portable video players, a vast range of well constructed mobile phones, memory chips for every other manufacturer of electronics, developed new technologies regarding every display possible...
To say they waste tax-payers' money (which actually is incorrect, cause the eventually "waste" clients' money, they're not a government) is only being shortsighted in my opinion.

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FastFisher
By FastFisher (May 17, 2012)

want

Body only

or

Prime kits

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (May 18, 2012)

+1 to a kit with a prime, e.g. 20mm or 30mm.

Sony NEX has kits with 16mm (eq 24mm).
Oly m43 has kits with 17mm (eq 35mm).
Panny m43 has kits with 14mm (eq 28mm).
Samsung NX - nothing.

The mirrorless are sold on the merit of size advantage. Not providing a kit which actually leverages the size advantage is very shortsighted IMO.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 17, 2012)

Would be nice if Samsung would sell the bodies alone.

Not real interested in that kit zoom, even if it's better than the kit zoom from the NX100 days.

Hope the buffer on the NX20 is faster than that on the NX200.

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (May 17, 2012)

If the NX 210 took a VF it would be a alot more interesting.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 18, 2012)

There is a remote VF application for a smartphones. Works via Wi-Fi.

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edtav
By edtav (May 17, 2012)

Too bad Samsung does not make a powerful external flash with SWIVEL function for their NX cameras, otherwise I would really consider the NX20. Get serious Samsung..!

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starwolfy
By starwolfy (May 17, 2012)

Like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ED-SEF42A-Camera-Flash-NX/dp/B003GAWARM

:)

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viking79
By viking79 (May 17, 2012)

I am pretty sure that flash doesn't actually swivel. It is amazingly difficult to find specs on some of those.

The problem with on camera strobes with a small mirrorless is the flash is bigger than the camera if you aren't careful. I prefer to use wireless strobes.

What Samsung needs to do is make a wireless strobe. You can use the aftermarket solutions, but they aren't ttl or anything.

Eric

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edtav
By edtav (May 17, 2012)

The ED-SEF42A only tilts, does not swivel, which makes it impossible to bounce of the ceiling with the camera in the vertical portrait position..

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jmmgarza
By jmmgarza (May 17, 2012)

The Koreans are kicking "nalga" and taking no prisoners. This country is making Japan and Germany look like slackers. Now if they can only get their brothers to the north to cool it, the world would be a happier place.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 17, 2012)

Japan and Germany look like slackers...I don't know where you get that from but as far as I know innovation starts in those countries and get copied by others.
I will drive my BMW or Honda before I ever buy a KIA and the same goes for cameras, Leica and Canon before Samsung even if it has Wi-Fi and makes me an espresso coffee

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marike6
By marike6 (May 17, 2012)

Nobody's kicking anything. Nikon will likely have Camera of the Year with the D800, Olympus with the OM-D, and Fuji, Panasonic, Sony, Pentax et al continue the produce the absolute cream of the crop cameras. I like Samsung's lens line-up and the NX series is interesting, but your assessment of the camera market is not accurate at all.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 17, 2012)

Boerseuntjie:

Haven't bothered to try the NX cameras and lenses have you? Remind me where the best TVs are made, ironically about to start using 30 year old Kodak tech? (Answer South Korea.)

Remind me the only company to come up with any serious iPad competition? (Answer Samsung in partnership with Google).

I'll give you a Toyota or Honda over a Kia, but how do you check the oil on a BMW?

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 17, 2012)

I had a look at them and they don’t seem all that better or different than anything I can get from Sony or Panasonic.
I know how to check the oil on a BMW and the best TV is from Korea? please...LOL

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J. Qian
By J. Qian (May 17, 2012)

No matter how aggressive Samsung is to push their wares, their image of me-too products in the camera world cannot be shaken off, though they make really good smartphones and thus better be advised to focus on phones instead.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

Boerseuntjie:

You really need to look at a good Samsung TV (US model TA 950, say) they put Sony and Panasonic to shame.

On new BMWs basically one can not check the oil.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 17, 2012)

That flash looks really useful pointing down at the lens….LOL
I said it once and I will say it again Sony copy done South Korean bad.

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kai333
By kai333 (May 17, 2012)

I am fairly sure this will be a waste of a response, BUT the NX series came out before the NEX. Each series has its own pros and cons, but I would like to think that everyone should be rooting for more competition in the marketplace to drive innovation and refinement.

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viking79
By viking79 (May 17, 2012)

The flash lifts up to be further above the lens to reduce red eye.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 17, 2012)

Panasonic had that in 2009, NX100 or Sony NEX 3 copy as I would like to call it came out in Sept 2010, and Sony had the NEX3 in June of 2010.
So yes Samsung is good at copying, no innovation at all they are what Japan use to be after the war, good at copying and making stuff cheap, they will one day excel and take the lead like Japan and Germany did, but that is if the North does not wipe them out before they get to that level
Again iPad competitor please it's more like copy...copy...copy when they invent something new call me.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 18, 2012)

Do you think they developed a new body in 3 months? You must be on drugs!

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

Boerseuntjie:

To bad Sony can't be bothered to copy those native Samsung NX lenses--like the extraordinary 300usd 30mm F/2.0.

And yes the Samsung 85mm F/1.4 is now available in the USA. Sony has a lot of catching up to do.

(Not counting Samsung's lead in Android tablets, Windows tablets and TVs either.)

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 18, 2012)

They don't need to, Sigma makes a good 30mm F2.8 lens for the NEX $199 and let's see Samsung Beat the 24mm F1.8 Zeiss, Yes I will spend the money on the Zeiss I’m not cheap like you.
As for TV's and Tablets I will keep my Sony XBR before I buy those disposable TVs Samsung makes.
Tablets??? really why would you not spend the extra money? get the apple one, they are all made in China in the same factory might as well make China more rich.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

Boerseuntjie:

Because Android tablets often take micro SD cards, and then try downloading a file that can't open on an iPad to an iPad. IPads have stupid restrictions, that's a huge reason to use Android, or get a real Windows tablet or a MacBook Air.

Samsung NX lenses are close to Leica and Zeiss, the colour is a lot better than supposedly highend Nikons and Canons. That you don't know that means you have not been paying attention.

Who said I was cheap, I just don't throw my monies around when there are very very good alternatives.

I'm sure that $1000 Sony Zeiss is nice as I'm sure the $1000 Samsung F/1.4 85mm, too bad Sony can't really be bothered to make more fast high quality lenses for the Nex system, unlike Samsung.

Not real excited about the Sigma lenses I've seen, not even the permanent one on the DP2x--and it's a good lens, just not great.

You don't seem to have noticed that it's easy enough to mount MF Zeiss Canon mount or Nikon mount lenses to Samsung NX cameras.

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kai333
By kai333 (May 18, 2012)

Hmm... probably should stop feeding the trolls. (which would cut like 90% of the traffic on this site probably...) Haters gonna hate, I suppose. Hope your life isn't as empty sounding as your posts are, Boerseuntjie! :-)

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

kai333:

Yes you have a point, but it's engaging to rile up BMW lovers (who don't know that you can't check the oil on a new BMW) and Sony+Apple cult defenders.

And I even like the Nex5n and some of the Zeiss lenses for Sony DSLRs. Also Macs are still much less crash prone than Windows 7 computers. It's just as I said it's the cult like defense and the assumed idea that of course Samsung can't beat these other consumer electronics makers that bothers me.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 18, 2012)

HowaboutRaw

Keep living in your dream world were Samsung makes the best lenses and cameras not to mention TVs and Tablets all things they are so famous for, I will drive my BMW, I don't have to check the oil because I can afford to take it to a dealer.
The day Samsung makes a Lens that are as good as Leica or Zeiss not to mention Canon Nikon or even Pentax I will sell my BMW and buy a Hyundai Sonata.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 19, 2012)

Boerseuntjie:

Never said Samsung makes the best lenses, that would be Leica, Zeiss and some others, then Fuji and Samsung.

Time for you to buy a Hyundai, because the Samsung NX lenses are already there ahead of Canon and Nikon (Though I like some Pentax lens too, ironic given that relationship with Samsung). At least Hyundai isn't going to have the manufacturing problems (which require replacement after 40,000 miles) of BMWs of the last 15 years, so you should be thankful for that Hyundai.

Samsung makes a killer Windows 7 tablet, which easily bests the iPad. Get back to me when iPads have right click and I can store any file I want on them. Oh and iTunes sound quality is terrible compared to the software available for other platforms.

BMW dealers doing your work, in other words you don't know how to care for a car or frankly other mechanical equipment. If you knew anything about cars you'd know you have to look at things like how quickly the oil changes colour during use.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 19, 2012)

Last time I looked this was Digital Photography Review not Car and Driver, but hey you insist to show me how much more you know about cars since you don’t know much about cameras, only a fool would say Samsung makes better lenses than Nikon and Canon.
Last time I looked on DxO they did not even compare to Canon or Nikon.
Do you even know how a RAW file looks? mr. HowaboutRAW

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (May 19, 2012)

You did not even get my punt on Samsung not even better than Pentax you fool they are the same "has been" camera companies.
That just show me how dump you are.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 19, 2012)

Boerseuntjie:

No Samsung and Pentax are not the same company, though they have shared some technologies. Pentax never shipped a version of the very very good Samsung TL500 compact (model number different in Europe).

What you may mean is that Ricoh and Pentax are now the same company because of a take over.

Samsung did ship a variation of the Pentax K20 DSLR which came with a Korean made Schneider lens and Schneider is most certainly up there with Leica and Zeiss. This relationship Samsung maintained with Schneider (there were other lenses) is probably the reason NX lenses have such good colour and are so sharp.

Happily the world of digital photography is not a DXO score. DXO's raw opener ignores many cameras, including Samsungs and the Leica M9. And I prefer viewing files, and printing them, than looking at scores.

Now Pentax, people really like the K5 and that 40mm F/2.8 is really good lens, easily as good as good Nikons and Canons.

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (May 19, 2012)

Saying the NX100 is a copy of the NEX 3. That is just being too silly.

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Riccardo IT
By Riccardo IT (May 17, 2012)

Too expensive.

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ChrisKramer1
By ChrisKramer1 (May 17, 2012)

Hold on there! The Olympus OMD-5 is retailing for1200 euros :-D
And people are actually buying it X-D

So I think Samsung's starting price for the NX20 is ok, especially considering its interesting Wifi features. I think it will fall to around 699 euros within 6 months (I mean, look at UK prices for the Panasonic GX1).

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carlosdelbianco
By carlosdelbianco (May 17, 2012)

That's why Leica is releasing a 7K slow lens and thinking it's alright.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 17, 2012)

You should look at Fuji. Only insane persons are buying it at that inflated price. But they are doing it to compensate for something else they are missing.

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tkpenalty
By tkpenalty (May 18, 2012)

too expensive when it outperforms more expensive camera. Cool.

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MichaelEchos
By MichaelEchos (May 18, 2012)

lol. My friend just bought the OM-D. Don't know why did he even buy it. Too large (M43 is supposed to be small). Too expensive. Rather buy a D7000.

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Michele Kappa
By Michele Kappa (May 18, 2012)

The E-M5 is too large?????
Boy, what is he, a dwarf?!?

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radissimo
By radissimo (May 18, 2012)

OMD size vs D7000:

http://camerasize.com/compare/#7,289

what r u talking about?

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Superka
By Superka (May 17, 2012)

There are many famous photo tech brands, that new manufacture has to surprise us with really great features to pay attention to it. Samsung is not, especially for this price.

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starwolfy
By starwolfy (May 17, 2012)

So basicaly you are telling us that these Samsung cameras are not worth their launching price?
I would be happy to get your reviews of these cameras since you seem to have informations we do not have.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 17, 2012)

Superka:

Doesn't read like you've looked at photos shot with Samsung lenses. The colour quality is really high with the ED NX lenses, kinda putting Canon and Nikon to shame.

Then there's the fact that one can get a fast native 30mm lens for the NX system, unlike say the Sony Nex system or the Nikon 1 system.

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (May 17, 2012)

The NX20 is described as "Sporting a form factor similar to a DSLR camera," as if that's a good thing!

The true good thing about Samsung cameras is that you can wait for three months and get them for half price – at which point they do deserve consideration, assuming you don't worry your little head about supporting nepotism, hubris, and dodgy slush funds. Hmm.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 17, 2012)

The NX200 is selling for $450 with the kit lens? Where?

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 17, 2012)

$500
http://www.henrys.com/66241-SAMSUNG-NX200-BLACK-W-18-55-II-OIS-LENS.aspx

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

supeygugin1:

Good call, but I should have specified in the USA, not Canada.

In the US the NX200 with the kit lens is still selling for $800-$900, though that will change once the NX210 ships.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 18, 2012)

So what? Can't you buy from Canada? Shipping is $13.
You can also buy NX200 from Fry's for $600. Not talking about ebay. I personally bough my NX100 off ebay at bargain price of $450 with 20-50, 20, and SEF15A flash. Brand new.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

supeyugin1:

Nothing wrong with buying from Canada, though I'd bet the Canadian dollar is a bit higher than the usd and then there's the 3 percent credit card fee added to foreign purchases (foreign to those purchasing with usds). I'd also wonder if there's some other fee.

Fry's doesn't have the NX200 instock.

So where available in the US, the NX200 sells for eight or nine hundred bucks with the kit zoom. Though yes this price will go down once the NX210 is out.

I bought a perfectly good used NX100 body off of Ebay for like $225 and another perfectly good used NX100 body and kit zoom for $300 from a NYC retailer--no flash. Batteries and chargers with both--and it looks like the NX20 uses the same battery as the NX100, unlike the NX200 which uses a different battery.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 18, 2012)

One Fry's near me has it in stock. But in Fry's you will need to pay tax, that's another $50 for me. It will be cheaper for me to buy from Henry's, I just checked, that it will cost $516 including shipping and all the fees.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 18, 2012)

supeyugin1:

Why not wait for the NX210--it may have a faster buffer than the NX200 and it is supposed to be available within the next week?

I guess the NX210 would be more expensive than the NX200, but what's the rush? I'm more interested in the NX20, which was supposed to be at B+H in New York today, it wasn't. (Same price as listed on Henry's in Canada).

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (May 18, 2012)

I'm going to buy neither NX200, nor NX210. I'm going to wait for NX300.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (May 19, 2012)

supeyugin1:

Seems reasonable, but I'd be really excited to find a store display of the 85mm lens. And I will certainly check out the NX20 once it's in stock.

Lowlight is important to me, and the NX200 certainly offered some improvement over the NX100, just enough so I don't have to struggle at the edge of what the NX100 can do. So since the NX20 has the same sensor as the NX200, I want to see the NX20.

Glad you're not rushing off to buy an NX200.

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RusVolley
By RusVolley (May 17, 2012)

Напоминает Olympus’вские...

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (May 17, 2012)

Что?

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alfredo_tomato
By alfredo_tomato (May 17, 2012)

I really want to like them, but they haven't done enough to lure me away from their competitors. They are handsome cameras.

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Nikonworks
By Nikonworks (May 17, 2012)

De ja vous all over again.

Sorry for my incorrect French

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Essai
By Essai (May 17, 2012)

Déjà vu (Déjà-vu)

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Nikonworks
By Nikonworks (May 17, 2012)

Merci

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