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Kenko-Tokina exhibits mockup of image-stabilised 70-200mm F4 at CP+

By dpreview staff on Feb 3, 2012 at 16:43 GMT

Kenko-Tokina will exhibit a mockup of a 70-200mm F4 telephoto zoom that features both a ring-type ultrasonic autofocus motor and optical image stabilization at the CP+ trade show in Japan. The AT-X Pro SD 70-200 F4 (IF) FX will be the company's first stabilized lens, and will likely be especially interesting to Nikon SLR users who currently have no option that's directly comparable to Canon's popular and highly-regarded 70-200mm F4 designs. Further details are limited, but the lens appears to feature both internal zoom and focus mechanisms, and has a usefully-close minimum focus distance of 1m. (via Megapixel.il)

 Tokina AT-X Pro SD 70-200mm F4 (IF) FX in Nikon mount

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Total comments: 100
nemark
By nemark (Feb 19, 2012)

Everything looks nice but.... I hope when it comes to production it will have REMOVABLE tripod collar.
(And hope for an 4/300mm and 5.6/400mm non-mirror prime (IS?) from some of the third party manufacturers in a near future.)

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Windancer
By Windancer (Feb 9, 2012)

Sure wish I had never sold my old Nikkor 70-210/4 lens!!

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Joseph
By Joseph (Feb 5, 2012)

To bad they have not announced a release date...

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Guidenet
By Guidenet (Feb 5, 2012)

Not only no release date, but this isn't really a prototype. It's a Mockup which means a non-working model, I'd think. I also don't see a tripod collar which makes me wonder at any advantages over the respected 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR except a half a stop to a stop in the 70-200 range and a probable higher price tag. It would have to have killer IQ to fit in there between Nikon's 70-300 and their 80-200 f/2.8 because those two have a killer IQ.

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (Feb 5, 2012)

The Canon 70-200mm f4 IS is an optic launched in 2006 and its extremely sharp right from wide open @f4 till around f16.

Considering that a) This is a brand new optic and b) Tokina is known for quality optics unlike Sigma, I would wager this lens will be interesting to a lot of people looking for a high quality short zoom that is sharp throughout its focal range.

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eyedo
By eyedo (Feb 5, 2012)

When I was a Canon DSLR user I had that 70-200,, f4(non IS).Ultra sharp,quiet,light weight..Don't care for white lenses though I surely miss that lens now that I switched to Nikon.I use the Tokina 70-300.Very good lens,which it were faster and lighter..Look forward to seeing what the new one will be.

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marike6
By marike6 (Feb 6, 2012)

@brendon1000 I was with you until the part about Sigma not being known for quality optics. I have their excellent 50 1.4 in EF mount, and it's every bit as good if not better than the Canon 50. Their 85 1.4 is an awesome lens. Their macros, 17-50 2.8 and ultra-wide zooms, and super telephotos, and telephoto zooms like the 120-300 2.8 and 100-300 f4 are all excellent lenses.

Tokina has had a few fairly recent hits like the 12-24 f4, and the 11-16 2.8. But to say they are known for their optics, and Sigma is not is a stretch, at best.

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (Feb 6, 2012)

Hmm. I must have been drinking when I added the Sigma part ! :P I dunno why I wrote that. Yes I wholeheartedly agree with your post.

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Bare
By Bare (Feb 6, 2012)

70-300 VR is just a plastic consumer lens which extends while zooming and which is only F5.3 az 200mm. On the other hand Tokina will have a pro build quality.

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caramelised
By caramelised (Feb 5, 2012)

I'm a Nikon user and am looking hard for a 70-200mm option.
If disregarding price I can either have the original VR version or the VRII version (I have doubts about the Sigma 70-200mm OS's optical quality).

If this turns out be as good as the Canon 70-200mm f/4... then I have another option on my short list.

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Heartilly
By Heartilly (Feb 5, 2012)

I‘m agree with you. Unfortunately, Unlike Canon, Nikon had NOT 70-200 F/4. It's a pity.

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Guidenet
By Guidenet (Feb 5, 2012)

However, Nikon does have the superb 80-200 f/2.8 in their toolkit. It's heavier than the Canon f/4 but a solid metal build and f/2.8 aperture for around $1000

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (Feb 5, 2012)

The 80-200mm is not a replacement for a 70-200mm f4 IMO. I have a Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 which is approximately the same weight and size as the Nikon and I leave it at home for a few shoots since its so damm big and heavy. A 70-200mm f4 class zoom is around 700 gms and much smaller dimensions while something like the 80-200mm weighs almost 100% more at 1.3 kg.

Personally ill take the extra f stop over the weight issue but a lot of other people would want something lighter like a sharp image stabilized 70-200mm f4 zoom.

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Caleido
By Caleido (Feb 5, 2012)

@ Heartilly.
Everyone seems to forget the Nikon 70-210 AF f4. Every time. Great quality, slow AF. Only second hand of course.

I had one and I liked it.

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nemark
By nemark (Feb 19, 2012)

But it is long discontinued and hard to find...

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F. Kamphues
By F. Kamphues (Feb 5, 2012)

Nikon photographers have been waiting a long time for a relatively light weight 70-200. Tokina is known for its excellent optics and build quality. For 600 Euro they can take my order now.

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (Feb 5, 2012)

IMO 600 EUR/$800 is the correct price for this lens to sell well.

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (Feb 5, 2012)

Not something ill want or need but the high demand for the Canon 70-200mm f4 tells me that this lens could sell very well if priced correctly and if Nikon/Sony/Pentax don't wake up and realize they need a lens like this ASAP ! :P

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (Feb 5, 2012)

Yawn.... YAWN!

People, just how many 70-200mm/F4 zooms does Planet Earth's inhabitants need, exactly?

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swpars
By swpars (Feb 5, 2012)

None available new for the Nikon F mount, the Sony/Minolta A mount, and the Pentax K mount. I'd say there's an untapped market.

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Gnaeus48
By Gnaeus48 (Feb 5, 2012)

Well how many are there? The only one I'm aware of is the Canon 70-200 4.0L

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caramelised
By caramelised (Feb 5, 2012)

Gnaeus48: 4.0L? Sounds like some engine :)

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jpr2
By jpr2 (Feb 4, 2012)

the EF 70-200/4L might be well regarded, and justly so, but... the ZEBRA white-black-white color scheme makes it impractical for many, myself included, so yes... I'd be highly interested if IQ would turn out decent, and CA well controlled :) !!

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ChapelThrill23
By ChapelThrill23 (Feb 4, 2012)

That is excellent news. I like the form factor of this a lot more than a 70-200 2.8 which is impractical for me. I have an old 7-210/4 and find the size manageable
.

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wlad
By wlad (Feb 4, 2012)

Good news everyone !

Seriously, this is the one lens that I have been waiting for ever since I got my first Nikon DSLR. A f2.8 70/80-200 Nikon is too huge and heavy to carry around, not to mention far too expensive to justify the cost for all but pros.

my expectations are high, and I'll be happy to spend around $1000 for this lens if it lives up to them

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JakeB
By JakeB (Feb 4, 2012)

I currently use the Nikon 70-300 f4.5-5.6.

If this lens were substantially sharper and more contrasty I'd snap it up in a second (assuming weight was also kept down).

I have the Tokina 12-24 mm f4. It's soft in the extreme corners at f4, but otherwise very good, with superb build quality.

Keep the price around $700 - 800, you've got a deal!

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ashwins
By ashwins (Feb 4, 2012)

Nikon 70-300 f4.5-5.6 VR is the sharpest of the Canon, Tamron & Sigma 70-300 f4-5.6 crop, so being "substantially sharper" will a long shot.

http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/992/cat/13

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caramelised
By caramelised (Feb 5, 2012)

If you're looking for sharper, you probably won't get it from a zoom. You should be considering 85mm, 105mm, 135mm, 180mm, and 200mm primes.

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madecov
By madecov (Feb 4, 2012)

about time

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gl2k
By gl2k (Feb 4, 2012)

AF speed is what counts on such lenses (among iq). Tamron and Sigma have nice 70-200 lenses as well but both are slower then the Nikon version.
That said I'm very curios about the AF speed of the Tokina.

Additionally what is the actual focal length on shorter distances @200mm ?
The Nikon 70-200 on 3m is more like a 160mm lens.

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Noogy
By Noogy (Feb 4, 2012)

I use Canon and this is interesting to me as well. The comparable Canon L lens is just too pricey for my pocket.

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SpinThma
By SpinThma (Feb 4, 2012)

Exactly that lens I am waiting for years on nikon to release it;

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Nikonhead
By Nikonhead (Feb 4, 2012)

If you look at third party lenses Tokina has some of the best valued lenses such as the 11-16mm f/2.8 and 16-28mm f/2.8. The 70-200mm is a brilliant move by Tokina to eat up some of Nikons profits since they don't offer this lens. I would expect the price to be around $700-$800. The lens will probably be tack sharp and very well built inside and out. I have the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 non OS and may pick this up just for the lighter weight and anti shake technology.

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The Scurvy Dog of PR
By The Scurvy Dog of PR (Feb 4, 2012)

weight... It's a lot easier to lug around an F4 all day than an F2.8. Especially if it's part of your kit.

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Guidenet
By Guidenet (Feb 3, 2012)

Unless the price is really good and the optics superb, I see no reason to get one other than for VR/IS. Nikon currently sells the excellent 80-200 f/2.8 AFD that focuses fast, has a professional build, is f/2.8 maximum and continuous aperture, and sells new for around $1100. I'm not so sure I'd move to f/4 just to get a 3rd party lens with VR/IS unless it was somewhat less money with at least the same IQ.

Nikon's 80-200 f/2.8 is another reason Nikon hasn't needed to be so fast releasing a 70-200 f/4 like Canon.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Feb 4, 2012)

We've had F4 L zooms over in the Canon camp for a long time. Canon also has a cheaper non-stabilized 70-200mm f2.8. The reason people pick the 70-200 F4 is for the weight. It's MUCH lighter, while still giving the same professional quality, build, and AF of the larger f2.8 zooms. The Canon F4 IS is one of the sharpest zooms on the planet. Basically flawless at any focal length and aperture.

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Alan Brown
By Alan Brown (Feb 4, 2012)

if you can carry an f2.8 lens all day AND be very good at handholding (steady)after three hours.. i'd agree.. But for me I don't carry weight well and my handholdimg is worse for it.. A lightweight 70-200 with OS is a brilliant idea even @f4. can't wait. Needs to be reasonable IQ for the money though.

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john Clinch
By john Clinch (Feb 4, 2012)

Its just the weight really.

Although f2.8 but shorter focal length is the other option.....

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commiebiker
By commiebiker (Feb 4, 2012)

+1...who needs it, I have an ancient 80 - 200 which works great. f4 on a wide angle is OK, but not on an 80-200

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Guidenet
By Guidenet (Feb 5, 2012)

Weight is no doubt a factor. Any f/2.8 lens will be heavier. Another issue though is portraits. Will f/4 be wide enough for you and OOF backgrounds. It wouldn't be for me, but I own other portrait lenses and who knows what this Tokina will weigh?

canon 70-200 f/4 usm is 26.8 oz
canon 70-200 f/4 usm 25 oz
canon 70-200 f/2.8 usm isII 52.6 oz
canon 70-200 f/2.8 usm 46 oz
nikon 70-200 f/2.8 VRII 54.3 oz
nikon 80-200 f/2.8 45.9 oz

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Jogger
By Jogger (Feb 3, 2012)

Its impossible to get Tokina lenses in Canada without getting ripped off. They need to improve their distribution netwrok.

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photo nuts
By photo nuts (Feb 3, 2012)

Knowing Tokina, I wonder if this lens will weigh quite a bit

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thx1138
By thx1138 (Feb 3, 2012)

Tokina grew out of a group that left Nikon, so it's understandable they have good lenses. What they have lacked is USM and now they appear to be not only addressing that, but delivering IS as well. This will be a great lens no doubt, but I'd mainly expect Nikon users to buy it, unless it is almost as good and a lot cheaper than the canon 70-200 f/4L IS,which is a sensational zoom.

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Jeff Morris
By Jeff Morris (Feb 3, 2012)

Tokina is the only 3rd party manufacturer that I have real respect for. The only negative about Tokina lenses are their propensity to demonstrate higher than normal levels of CA. However, build and performance are usually on par with the big boys.

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exdeejjjaaaa
By exdeejjjaaaa (Feb 3, 2012)

so such 3rd parties as Zeiss or Cosina for example are no good ?

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photo nuts
By photo nuts (Feb 3, 2012)

@exdeejjjaaaa

Are all Zeiss and Cosina lenses capable of AF, not to mention ultrafast AF?

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Feb 3, 2012)

The majority of Sigma EX lenses meet or beat the "big boys", and that includes AF speed and build. Tamron only tries to compete at the consumer level.

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Joe Marques
By Joe Marques (Feb 4, 2012)

@tkbslc - Nonsense. Sigma is a cheaper ALTERNATIVE to the "big boys", their lenses don't beat any top Nikon or Canon glass. Unfortunately, I've owned far too much Sigma (and later sold it all) to know first hand. Inconsistent AF (not a calibration need but a variable misfocus) is the biggest problem followed by marginal wide open sharpness on the 1.4 or 2.8 lenses (although the 50 and 85 seem to be better - at a much higher price than their value lenses).

Now don't misunderstand, Sigma fits a very important niche - good value, good performance. This is their strength and they are a valid choice for many. But to say Sigma beats the "big boys" is utter nonsense. You get what you pay for - cliche as it is - never more true than with Sigma.

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garyknrd
By garyknrd (Feb 4, 2012)

I second that. Sigma has been in my kit for two years now and I am selling all. A 300mm f2.8 EX DG and 500mm EX DG. I own the canon equivalent now and it is just no contest. I will never buy another Sigma product period. Af problems. Front and back focus problems. Just a pain in the ass.

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ffnikclif
By ffnikclif (Feb 6, 2012)

What about Zeiss 3rd party lens? No respect for them?

FRED

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NovemberSun
By NovemberSun (Feb 3, 2012)

Excellent! cant wait to try it. It will certainly be on my shortlist. If its anything like the 16-28 or the infamous 11-16 (Ive rented both) Tokina will hav another winner on its hands and some more cash from me.

If all I ever had were Tokina and Canon lenses Id be a happy camper

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Old Ed
By Old Ed (Feb 3, 2012)

I've been looking for the filter size, but no luck so far. Possibly a 77? Also, it will be interesting to learn if it focuses in the "Nikon" direction or not. BTW, I still have a Tokina f4-5.6 70-200 zoom that I bought back in the 70's. It still looks and works like new. I cannot say the same for my (then top-of-the-line) Nikkor f4.5 80-200; it is now unusable because of zoom creep. And the Nikkor cost about 3,000 USD, in today's dollars. So I'm a BIG Tokina fan. I just wish they had a more extensive line, and I'm sad to see them phasing out of primes.

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Ben Tomohiku
By Ben Tomohiku (Feb 3, 2012)

i bed its gonna be a 67mm size, same as the canon's 70-200 f4. I like tokina too, they usually make some good quality lens, well made!

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WacB
By WacB (Feb 3, 2012)

1° Look at the picture: the lens turns in the"Nikon's mode", both: the zoom and focusing rings ;-)
2° As I remember, Tokina's lens reserves original rotation direction i.e. they make the other, in mean of roration, lens for C, other for N.

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intruder61
By intruder61 (Feb 3, 2012)

will they keep up with orders from the nikon users? :)

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Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (Feb 3, 2012)

Since morons at Nikon don't wanna give out a nice F4 zoom for us that don't wanna drag around that 2.8 monster it looks like Tokina is getting my money. Assuming that it has at least same quality as their 11-16 zoom of course ;)

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ijustdontknow
By ijustdontknow (Feb 3, 2012)

Nice. Been happy with Tokina for 25+ years now, I'll look very closely at this.

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rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (Feb 3, 2012)

Great! Only lens in the Canon side of fence that could cause some envy on our (N) side, for most users (some C TS lenses are also cause for envy). Let's hope it's nice optically.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Feb 3, 2012)

Tokina stuff tends to be beefy but if this lens is reasonably light it could be sweet. As someone who has the Canon 70-200/4 IS, the real appeal (and what makes it different from anything Nikon has right now) is the combination of stellar sharpness with surprisingly light weight.

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jmaxx30
By jmaxx30 (Feb 3, 2012)

I'm somewhat confused. What is the primary difference between the F4 and the F2.8 (besides the obvious aperture)? Is the big reason for making and F4 to reduce the size and price?

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (Feb 3, 2012)

Yes! However, it was never really enough of a reduction in either to not just go with older used lenses. It's an under-served market, but justifiably so. I expect this lens to sell for around a grand. If it was going for $600, they'd have something.

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jp1958
By jp1958 (Feb 3, 2012)

At the time of introduction, the primary reason was for a lighter lens at $550 less than the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM. Also, the other advantage was the 4 stop Image Stablizer. The drawback was the reduction in bokeh at f/4.

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rhlpetrus
By rhlpetrus (Feb 3, 2012)

Check prices ...

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Anastigmat
By Anastigmat (Feb 3, 2012)

Besides prices and size, the most important consideration is image quality. An f/4 lens is going to be easier to design and sharper.

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audijam
By audijam (Feb 3, 2012)

finanlly someone mentioned sharpness of f/4...

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Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Feb 3, 2012)

Awesome, wish Nikon had a 70-200 f/4 in their lens lineup.

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jhinkey
By jhinkey (Feb 3, 2012)

Hopefully this will spur Nikon to create their own 70-200/4.

It would be nice to know the approximate availability of this lens: This year, 2013?

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Feb 4, 2012)

I guess they will now. :)

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io_bg
By io_bg (Sep 5, 2012)

I'm almost sure they've a prototype but don't want to announce it cause it would hurt the sales of its f/2.8 sibling.

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Willy Chu
By Willy Chu (Feb 3, 2012)

Good to see they have IS technology now. I have their (now discontinued) 50-135mm f/2.8 DX lens. It (obviously) is the DX equivalent of the 70-200mm full frame, but much smaller and lighter. AF, but no IS.

Hopefully they will re-introduce this lens with IS!

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Feb 3, 2012)

I believe Sigma has an IS version of its similar 50-150 F2.8 (a lens I really like, just because it's so much easier to handle than a 70-200 F2.8)

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (Feb 3, 2012)

@R Butler: When you gonna review it, specially on a sensor shift IS body :)

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maxpayne
By maxpayne (Feb 3, 2012)

@R Butler: Has Sigma actually started producing the 50-150mm IS? I thought it was canned? Would be great to know that wasn't the case and the lens will be available, someday!

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watmough
By watmough (Feb 3, 2012)

Excellent, I'd really love an equivalent to my Nikkor 80-200/4, which is a lovely lens, but with AF.

They'll need to keep it at or below $700 though, else they'll be encroaching on the going price for a nice used 80-200/2.8.

Gosh, just looked on ebay, make that 500-600 for a used 80-200/2.8.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (Feb 3, 2012)

I don't think Nikon could do it for that cheap and keep the quality up. Which is why I don't expect to see one anytime soon. Or it'll come out, but it'll be about $1,800, and people will complain.

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Lucas_
By Lucas_ (Feb 3, 2012)

A non-stabilized version for the Sony mount would be great ( f4 is reasonably fast and keeps the lens size small/light, w/o stabilizer cost goes down )!
Unfortunatelly Tokina seems to have stated they won't support any Sony mount anymore ( A or E )...!

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chlamchowder
By chlamchowder (Feb 3, 2012)

Well, Sony users can go after used copies of the Minolta 70-210/4. It's considerably cheaper than the Canon 70-200/4.

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futile32
By futile32 (Feb 3, 2012)

Didn't realise they aren't doing Sony's anymore.. any idea why. Thats annoying.

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donthasslethehoff
By donthasslethehoff (Feb 3, 2012)

Sony does make a 70-200mm 2.8..... for nearly 2k. They are dreaming.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Feb 3, 2012)

The top Canon and Nikon 70-200mm f2.8's are over $2k, too. So that's apparently the going rate.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (Feb 3, 2012)

CaNikon's 70-200 is much matured comparatively. See their respective reviews.

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N0BOX
By N0BOX (Feb 3, 2012)

Actually, I'm hoping for some manufacturers to come out with some stabilized Sony lenses. I know Sony Alpha users don't need the stabilization, but the NEX users who have the LA-AE2 adapter only have the stabilized Sigma lenses to choose from, and Sigma has stopped putting the stabilization mechanism in those lenses.

They didn't, however, change the size or weight of the lens design to account for the lack of stabization. I doubt Tokina would change the design, either.

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Pawel Zieminski
By Pawel Zieminski (Feb 4, 2012)

What do you mean? Quite recently they introduced 11-16 2.8 in Sony mount. Sony's DSLR market share continues to increase and they see it.

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EXX
By EXX (Feb 6, 2012)

Yes, it would be a great alternative to the Minolta 70-210 F4 "Beercan". Although the Minolta is a good lens, a modern alternative (one that does not exibit lot's of CA at F4) would be great!

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Stargator
By Stargator (Feb 3, 2012)

FX should be the label for full format. So the DX designation in the text does not match the picture.

If it only would be shorter...

or a redesign of their F4/100-300 lens they had some time ago FX, with ultrasonic and optical image stabilization this would be a runner. Faster than the Canon 100-400/70-300 and lighter than the Sigma 2.8/120-300.

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M Jesper
By M Jesper (Feb 3, 2012)

What are you talking about, it is FX and there is no DX designation in the text.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (Feb 3, 2012)

:)) what's wrong mate?

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Auke B van der Weide
By Auke B van der Weide (Feb 3, 2012)

seems like fullframe to me

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (Feb 3, 2012)

It is .. FX!

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marcus240682
By marcus240682 (Feb 3, 2012)

so why does it say FX on the label ????

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pictureAngst
By pictureAngst (Feb 3, 2012)

Perhaps they are using Nikon's acronym to indicate that it full frame (versus DX cropped frame)?

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fbuis
By fbuis (Feb 3, 2012)

May be you are right!

As seen on Tokina Website (in japanese):
http://www.tokina.co.jp/camera-lenses/news/cp-tokina-70-200.html#

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grafli
By grafli (Feb 3, 2012)

They don't have to make it in Canon Mount. ;-)

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pictureAngst
By pictureAngst (Feb 3, 2012)

If they did, I guess they'd (a) have to drop the FX acronym, and (b) offer an optional tripod collar for $$$ :-)

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (Feb 3, 2012)

It depends on the price. IN order to get anyone's mind off the superb 70-200 F4 IS L, they will have to make it like $700-800. I don't know if that is going to happen.

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John Ellis
By John Ellis (Feb 3, 2012)

So is this made for APS only or not? My biggest problem with APS is that there have been no APS telephotos for the mount. Even Pana has the 100-300 4/3 lens that is pretty darned good. I am really tired of hauling around full frame teles for birds and wildlife on DX cameras. Useless weight and expense.

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Calltower
By Calltower (Feb 4, 2012)

It is a full frame lens as they use the FX designation on the 17-35/F4 and 16-28/F2.8 which are FF lenses too.

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John Ellis
By John Ellis (Feb 4, 2012)

Well, I see nothing to induce me to buy it. Nobody wants to develop decently fast long glass for APS, it appears. Every stop basically doubles the price and so does going from APS to FX, like boats a foot longer, and I just do not understand the problem. Surely there are more APS cameras sold than full frame by now.

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Mike99999
By Mike99999 (Feb 7, 2012)

@John Ellis, Tokina has a 50-135mm f/2.8 (70-200 equivalent) for APS-C. It is much smaller than full frame teles and very sharp. Too bad it's discontinued, but you can find it 2nd hand. Considering this announcement from Tokina, a stabilized version of the 50-135mm might be in the pipeline as well!

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marcus300
By marcus300 (Feb 17, 2012)

A superb lens that people are over looking is the Sigma 50-150mm f2.8. It's lightweight with fast AF, I use it often when i'm travelling when trying to save weight.

Nikons 70-210 f4 is a great option but is slower to focus.

Both of these are used on my D300 with great results

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